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Speaker 2: Cowboys, Let's go. Are you ready for a break?

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Speaker 2: And so much for that.

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Speaker 4: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 4: We were on Break with Ambar Garcia. Brian brought us

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Speaker 4: Patrick Walker and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 5: It is Wednesday, February fourteenth, twenty twenty four, Season nineteen,

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Speaker 5: episode number one hundred and twelve. Welcome to the latest

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Speaker 5: edition of The Break. It is a special Valentine's edition

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Speaker 5: of The Break. Brian's not here today, but got plenty

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Speaker 5: of love for you guys with Patrick No C Walker

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Speaker 5: and Amber Garcia. And so today we got a lot

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Speaker 5: we're going to get into. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 5: the defensive coordinator. Cowboys just get their new defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 5: We're going to talk about the defensive coordinator in Washington,

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Speaker 5: UH and the head coach there, and talk about how

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Speaker 5: we think that affect us and other NFC East movings.

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Speaker 5: H when you talk about some of the coaches that

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Speaker 5: have been hired in Philadelphia as well.

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Speaker 2: And then we'll see we will see if we'll get.

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Speaker 5: To the conversation on Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure it will, but it's on the rundown.

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Speaker 5: So if we get to it, we get to it,

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Speaker 5: and if we don't, guess what, it'll roll right over

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Speaker 5: the next week, and if there's not more news next week,

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Speaker 5: then we'll hit it next week.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 6: At some point that pitch gets old.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, but that's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, I know, I know.

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Speaker 6: But the fact that Derek mentions it every.

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Speaker 2: Week, it's because marketing, right, he knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 5: Man, I've been doing this a while. Keep keep them

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Speaker 5: on this a while. Slow, all right, let's jump in

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Speaker 5: Mike Zimmer, new defensive coordinator of the Dallas Cowboys a

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Speaker 5: week press conference to.

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Speaker 2: Day at two two pm Central time.

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Speaker 5: All right, cool, and Amber will have a question, and

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Speaker 5: I'm sure you'll have a few questions from mister Zimmer, but.

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Speaker 2: Ask him Spanish right out of the gate.

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Speaker 5: That would actually be pretty interesting, is like she just

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Speaker 5: jumped right out the gate and just asks the question

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Speaker 5: Spanish and just sits back and waits, and everybody in

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Speaker 5: the room would probably just be.

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Speaker 8: Like, what would be even better as if he replied

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Speaker 8: in Spanish, that would be that will be all right.

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Speaker 5: So we talked about this a little bit last week.

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Speaker 5: Was this the right decision for the Cowboys for me?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 8: And you know, when going back to last week, when

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Speaker 8: you asked us to rank the candidates that the Cowboys

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Speaker 8: were interested in, I had Mike Zimmer right up there

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Speaker 8: alongside Wink Martindale. Martindale obviously has now gone to be

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Speaker 8: the DC of the Michigan Wolverines. Congratulations to win Martindale.

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Speaker 8: But I'm right here with Mike Zimmer. I had him

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Speaker 8: ranked far above Rivera and that much farther above Rex

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Speaker 8: Ryan because of the lack of experience over the past

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Speaker 8: the broadcast booth versus being on an NFL sideline. Also

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Speaker 8: of the fact that Zimmer versus Ryan Ryan was more

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Speaker 8: of an AFC coach. Zimmer comes in as an NFC coach,

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Speaker 8: knows how to navigate it. I get your point, Derek.

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Speaker 8: There's been some turnover obviously in the NFC, but the

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Speaker 8: and I feel like he's going to come in and

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Speaker 8: I spoke last week also about the culture shock that's

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Speaker 8: this Cowboys locker room, going from Dan Quinn, who's a

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Speaker 8: players coach. Obviously we love dan Quinn, but when you

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Speaker 8: look at Zimmer, he's more of that old school ball coach,

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Speaker 8: tough nose, holding guys accountable. I think this is the

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Speaker 8: Did you say tough nose, tough nose, hard nose, you know,

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Speaker 8: tough hard synonyms?

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Speaker 6: Was the writer here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's what I'm messing with.

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Speaker 6: The writer supposedly.

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Speaker 8: Oh did you say supposedly or supposedly, because that's gonna

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Speaker 2: That's not there's no supposedly.

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Speaker 7: And this is in reference to the game we played

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Speaker 2: I just want to make sure you didn't say supposedly,

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Speaker 5: Gotta okay, man, you got to come with it on

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Speaker 5: this shows nothing.

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Speaker 6: You guys attack me. I attacked that.

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Speaker 2: Let's just call this.

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Speaker 7: I play defense and this guy, Mike Zimmer. I think

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Speaker 7: he was my top candidatey. I think he brings the

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Speaker 7: balance of the two things that I was looking for one,

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Speaker 7: having somebody from the outside, the outside experience, but also

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Speaker 7: an insider experience because he spent so many years here

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Speaker 7: with the Cowboys. Again, very very different times. There's like

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Speaker 7: not many people probably that are still working here from

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Speaker 7: the time he was here, you know the other yeah

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Speaker 7: you oh man, No, there's a lot of staff members still,

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Speaker 7: but there's been a huge turn, not a lot. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: So yeah, so it's.

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Speaker 7: A whole new different environment, but that he's not necessarily

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Speaker 7: he brings that toughness that we talked about, but also

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Speaker 7: talking to different people around the building because initially my

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Speaker 6: Of those mean guys. But he has like a.

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Speaker 7: Combination of both things where he's actually what I hear,

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Speaker 7: he's actually a pretty nice guy, but he will bring

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Speaker 6: So it has that balance as well there that I like.

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Speaker 7: And yeah, just looking forward, looking forward to what this

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he reminds me of I guess the best way

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Speaker 5: to put it is, you know what old school, like,

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Speaker 5: my old high school code was like like the kind

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Speaker 5: he also could pull out the paddle and uh and.

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Speaker 5: Don't know this is a different error. Y'all don't know

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Speaker 5: about that. Yeah, Like it was. The principal when I

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Speaker 2: And the coach would literally.

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Speaker 5: and then you're gonna go see the coach. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 5: to take care of that. And it might be paddling,

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Speaker 6: Do some extra work to you.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 5: And and guess back in those days, not only did

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Speaker 2: Your mama and then you go home and then mom

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Speaker 5: My point is, I'm not thinking he's going to be

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Speaker 5: pulling out the paddle around here. But my point is

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Speaker 5: I would characterize Mike Zimmer as the kind of guy

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Speaker 5: that is hard but fear And I heard somebody say

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Speaker 2: A quote that that Parcels gave about him.

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Speaker 5: He's a hard coach, so he's gonna coach you hard,

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Speaker 5: but he's gonna be fair. And I think the players

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Speaker 7: And I think that that's what I'm hoping will help

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Speaker 7: take care of those penalties. And we've talked about it before,

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Speaker 7: who else do you got that you're going to decide

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Speaker 7: So that's an I expect where someone like him, I'm

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Speaker 8: Now I can pretty much attest to the fact that

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Speaker 8: talking about a coach who is and I love the

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Speaker 8: fact that you use the word respe He is so

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Speaker 8: well respected because his resume is stellar. He comes in

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Speaker 2: And there are big name.

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Speaker 8: Guys who have played under Zimmer who can attest to

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Speaker 8: that and say, you know what, until I got my

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Speaker 8: here thinking, hey, I'm you know, the big dog in

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Speaker 8: But there's just as many players who also love playing

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Speaker 8: I remember a time he came to me and basically intimated,

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Speaker 8: I don't care who you are. If you don't get

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Speaker 5: about this Mike, Mike. Let's talk about Mike Zimmer, new

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Speaker 2: Maybe he was coaching here before.

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Speaker 5: Now, let's not act like when he was coaching in Minnesota,

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Speaker 8: So anyone who follows me knows I am a massive

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Speaker 5: And it's never going to be easy, but it easier

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Speaker 5: doing exactly what he told me he needed me to do,

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Speaker 5: and I'm getting a wrath of that right now. So

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Speaker 5: I think as long as it's as long as it's

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Speaker 5: built around true accountability and not just demeaning to be

444
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Speaker 5: to be demeaning. And again, I do think relationships matter.

445
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Speaker 5: I think his ability to be able to get to

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Speaker 5: know as players and develop that relationship to where they

447
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Speaker 5: do respect him in a way they respect him as

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Speaker 5: a man first before a coach, right, I think when

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Speaker 5: that happens, I think that's a way that he will

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Speaker 5: probably deal better. And I think all coaches, anybody that's

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Speaker 5: in a leadership position, has to deal with younger people because,

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Speaker 5: as you said, you know now parents ask their kids

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Speaker 5: how they grow up in an environment where the parents

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Speaker 5: ask them, So tell me how you're feeling. A lot

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Speaker 5: of kids in my generation didn't get that. It was like,

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Speaker 5: do what I said, and that's it. I don't care

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Speaker 5: how you feel about it.

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Speaker 2: So it just changed. The world has changed, and so

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Speaker 2: you have to be aware of that. And I think

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Speaker 2: you have to approach people in that way.

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Speaker 6: There's a fine line.

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Speaker 7: And this is just something that popped into my head

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Speaker 7: right now that I find an interesting concept. For example,

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Speaker 7: dan Quinn, he's and I love dyn Quinn. He's a

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Speaker 7: player's coach. He's super like down there to their level,

466
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Speaker 7: goes down and is next to them doing things, going

467
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Speaker 7: through drills or things like that.

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Speaker 6: We know that, but maybe a.

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Speaker 7: Different guy like Zimmer brings a different aspect. To let

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Speaker 7: me try to illustrate this for as an example, and

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Speaker 7: I would assume this has happened to a lot of

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Speaker 7: other people too, But for example me, I love kids.

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Speaker 7: I will be with every single kid that I see

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Speaker 7: and I'll be playing and I like lower myself to

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Speaker 7: their levels and we become buddies. And there are times

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Speaker 7: that they cross the line. I'm like whoa, wha, Hold on,

477
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Speaker 7: hold on, we're not we're not on the same level.

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Speaker 7: Hold I'm back cup a second little kid exactly. Or

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Speaker 7: another scenario. There was one time I had a trainer

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Speaker 7: that he was too friendly with me. We became's buddy

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Speaker 7: and like I didn't, I'm like, no, I'm done with

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Speaker 7: the reps. Like I did, I took him more as like, Okay,

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Speaker 7: we're too buddy. But you need someone that has that

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Speaker 7: kind of toughness sometimes. So what I'm trying to say

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Speaker 7: is interesting to think about the balance between those relationships,

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Speaker 7: because although you do want someone that can connect to

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Speaker 7: you and be that guy in that closeness, you do

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Speaker 7: need that kind of like straight I think that.

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Speaker 2: The best way to illustrate it.

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Speaker 8: What popped in my head is it's the stern dad

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Speaker 8: versus the fun uncle, right, And it feels like Dan Quinn,

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Speaker 8: as much as we love him, it was more the

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Speaker 8: fun uncle's. It's the one that when you're you know,

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Speaker 8: you're a kid, and the fun uncle comes over and

495
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Speaker 8: you have so much respect for him because he's your uncle, right,

496
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Speaker 8: But it's more of the fun personal conversations.

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Speaker 2: Kind of go out of the way.

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Speaker 8: It's like oh, uncle's here, right, But you also know

499
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Speaker 8: that at a certain Pointunk's going to check you. But

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Speaker 8: there's a lot more leeway as far as the fund

501
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Speaker 8: is concerned. And that's why dan Quinn is such a

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Speaker 8: player's coach, whereas Zimmer it's the stern dad. Not to

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Speaker 8: say that stern necessarily means bad, but stern in that

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Speaker 8: I'm going to give you these instructions. I need you

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Speaker 8: to follow these instructions, and if you don't follow these instructions,

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Speaker 8: we need to have a conversation about why these instructions

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Speaker 8: weren't followed. And it's more so that spect So I

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Speaker 8: really think that the fun uncle has left the building,

509
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Speaker 8: the stern dad is coming in, and that's what this

510
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Speaker 8: locker room kind of needs to get used to.

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Speaker 5: The one thing I do want to clarify, though, is

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Speaker 5: I don't necessarily want to characterize dan Quinn as someone

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Speaker 5: that didn't hold play.

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Speaker 2: That's what we That's what I keep saying.

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Speaker 5: I think we need to make that clear because I

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Speaker 5: think I think he can easily he could easily put

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Speaker 5: it into either you are or you aren't.

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Speaker 2: Like I think it's just a different way that he

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Speaker 2: did it.

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Speaker 5: I think Zimmer's way is, as you said, a lot,

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Speaker 5: a lot more stern, or at least what I've seen, right,

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Speaker 5: and what players who have played for him have told me, like,

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Speaker 5: he's just done much more to the point, very direct,

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Speaker 5: very stern, here's what I need you to do, and

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Speaker 5: then holding players accountable to that and may not have

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Speaker 5: a lot of more of the touchy feely kind of

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Speaker 5: stuff in his repertoire school.

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Speaker 7: And then Quinn he's he's older too, but he is

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Speaker 7: more in with the new type of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Think about it.

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Speaker 8: So from the fund, if we keep with the fun

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Speaker 8: the fun uncle analogy, right, So let's say it's the

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Speaker 8: fun uncle that you respect, and that uncle comes in

534
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Speaker 8: and you haven't made your bed and he hears, you know,

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Speaker 8: the parent kind of yelling at you to go make

536
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Speaker 8: your bet and you haven't, and he kind of pulls

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Speaker 8: you aside and says, hey, Derek, come.

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Speaker 2: On now, yeah, you know you're supposed to make that.

539
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Speaker 2: Go ahead and knock that out. Make it easier on yourself.

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Speaker 8: Go ahead, knock that out. So we go outside and play, right.

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Speaker 8: Whereas Mike Zimmer, he would come in as the stern

542
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Speaker 8: day and why is this bed not made? So it's

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Speaker 8: it's just those two different types of dynamics both held

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Speaker 8: you accountable, but in two different ways.

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Speaker 5: And the interesting part about that is some kids respond

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Speaker 5: well to the stern dad and some the fun uncle,

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Speaker 5: and some don't respond to the dad, or some don't

548
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Speaker 5: respond to the fun uncle. That's the key when you're

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Speaker 5: coaching or leading. You got to figure out what works

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Speaker 5: for every person, and you got to give them what

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Speaker 5: actually motivates them. So my hope is that for whether

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Speaker 5: it's it's Mike Zimmer or whether it's McCarthy, they are

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Speaker 5: tailoring their style of leadership to each and every player

554
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Speaker 5: that they have to deal with, because every player is

555
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Speaker 5: going to respond differently, and all you're trying to do

556
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Speaker 5: at the end of the day is get the best

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Speaker 5: out of the player. So you better figure it out.

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Speaker 5: You better figure out what really mo tovase them. Some

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Speaker 5: people they will cower when you go at them hard.

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Speaker 5: Other people take that as a challenge and they're like, okay,

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Speaker 5: let's go right. So it's like, you got to figure

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Speaker 5: out what it is that really motivates the players and

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Speaker 5: then give them what really motivates.

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Speaker 8: I mean, like you said, that's what that's a huge

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Speaker 8: part of coaching at every level, whether it be Pop Warner,

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Speaker 8: high school, college you know D one, D two, or

567
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Speaker 8: if you're at the NFL. If you're a coaching you

568
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Speaker 8: know groups of individuals. You need to understand. It's not

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Speaker 8: indifferent from teaching. If you're a teacher, you have to

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Speaker 8: teach to each individual's personality, but you also have to

571
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Speaker 8: have this overarching message that basically is in line with

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Speaker 8: every single person you approach, because otherwise you run the

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Speaker 8: danger of Okay, well, I always more stern with Derek

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Speaker 8: than Ambar. But then Derek comes to me and says,

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Speaker 8: why do you always come at me like this? But

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Speaker 8: you don't go with Ambar. So that's the respect aspect

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Speaker 8: of it. And so that just goes to coaching. Either

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Speaker 8: you're really good at that as a coach, and if

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Speaker 8: you are, then you're at this level, and if you're not,

580
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Speaker 8: then you shouldn't be at this level. But Zimmer has

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Speaker 8: proven time and again that he's able to coach the

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Speaker 8: old school way, but by way of the nineties with

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Speaker 8: got some personalities, but he's also shown that he can

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Speaker 8: coach the new age NFL player by way of the

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Speaker 8: Minnesota Viking. So I think, you know, he comes in

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Speaker 8: with enough breath of experience and that to make sure

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Speaker 8: that he marries quickly to this this locker room.

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Speaker 2: That's funny.

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Speaker 5: Think about the difference between a Charles Haley and Michael

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Speaker 5: Parson's right, from a personality standpoint, very very different people.

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Speaker 6: But that's social media.

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Speaker 5: I want to extend that conversation now to talk about

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Speaker 5: some other coaching hires around the end of ceast and

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Speaker 5: how we think these hires may affect the Cowboys. Let's

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Speaker 5: start first in Washington. Obviously, they hired Dan Quinn as

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Speaker 5: their head coach, but they also pick up Joe wid Junior,

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Speaker 5: who was here last year as their defensive coordinator. How

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Speaker 5: much do you think that move or those moves affect

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys with now their defensive coordinator being the head

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Speaker 5: coach there and one of their defensive coach his assistant

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Speaker 5: coaches now being their defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 8: Well, we already know that the battles between the Commanders

667
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Speaker 8: and the Cowboys are always heightened because there's so much familiarity,

668
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Speaker 8: and I mean a lot of times they either go

669
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Speaker 8: down to the wire or they're just wildly unpredictable. Either

670
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Speaker 8: the Cowboys are blowing them out or they're blowing the

671
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Speaker 8: Cowboys out, and whatever the case may be. Now you

672
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Speaker 8: throw into the mix a guy like Dan Quinn who

673
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Speaker 8: knows your offense inside out. Joe Witt knows your offense

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Speaker 8: inside out, and both of those guys also know both

675
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Speaker 8: the strengths and the opportunities for improvement of all of

676
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Speaker 8: your defensive guys, including your star guys like Micah and whatnot.

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Speaker 8: So of course when you look at dan Quinn, he's

678
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Speaker 8: going to be, you know, feeding his offense all kind

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Speaker 8: of intel on Well, this is how you attack Michael Parsons,

680
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Speaker 8: this is how you try to attack the Marcus Lawrence,

681
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Speaker 8: this is how you target to Ron Bland, things like that.

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Speaker 8: So I think that for the Commanders it's a huge,

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Speaker 8: huge level up because they basically poached one of the

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Speaker 8: biggest guys from the Cowboys, and then that guy poached

685
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Speaker 8: one of the other biggest guys from the Cowboys on

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Speaker 8: the defensive side of the ball. So thank goodness, the

687
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Speaker 8: Cowboys blocked the interview for Al Harris. Otherwise we'd have

688
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Speaker 8: that to contend with as well. But you know, if

689
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Speaker 8: you if you don't think not going with if you

690
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Speaker 8: don't think right. But I will say to everyone listening,

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Speaker 8: and I tweeted this as well, I saw Al Harris

692
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Speaker 8: doing some work today. So Zimmer's in the building and

693
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Speaker 8: Al Harris is not only still here, but he's working.

694
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Speaker 8: So that's a good sign. Keep your fingers crossed. But

695
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Speaker 8: I think it'd be disingenuous to pretend that you know

696
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Speaker 8: the Commander's poaching. Dan Quinn is not going to have

697
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Speaker 8: any impact. It's fun as a fan to say, oh, well,

698
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Speaker 8: it doesn't matter. As an analyst, it one hundred matters.

699
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Speaker 8: Like these contests are going to be that much more

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Speaker 8: intense going forward.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure. And I mean they already have been.

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Speaker 7: Even though the commanders haven't been doing very well, it's still,

703
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Speaker 7: like you mentioned, every time they face each other, it's

704
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Speaker 7: still a competitive game and you never know exactly what

705
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Speaker 7: to expect. And I agree dan Quinn. I mean he

706
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Speaker 7: has a lot of insider information. He knows everything, He

707
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Speaker 7: knows everybody's and weaknesses over here, So that's gonna be interesting,

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Speaker 7: but at least I feel like outside those games, those

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Speaker 7: two games against the Cowboys, overall, I think it's gonna

710
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Speaker 7: it's it's a year of like rebuilding for the Commanders,

711
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Speaker 7: So I don't expect them overall to be extremely successful.

712
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Speaker 7: I say this, and you never know what happens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that QB you get.

714
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Speaker 7: You never know what can happen. It can definitely happen,

715
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Speaker 7: you can there can be a lot of surprises. But

716
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Speaker 7: as of right now, I just see it as a

717
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Speaker 7: rebuild year for them, just piecing finding all the pieces,

718
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Speaker 7: piecing it together and building for the future. So in general,

719
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Speaker 7: not concerned, but with the Cowboys definitely those two matches

720
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Speaker 7: are something to watch now.

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Speaker 8: Also, this just kind of on the other side of

722
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Speaker 8: the Coin that I mentioned. Yeah, there's there's Coin and

723
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Speaker 8: Wit and they know the Cowboys offense, but that means

724
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Speaker 8: McCarthy and Schottenheimer. They know Dan Quinn and Joe Witch

725
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Speaker 8: defense and what their tendencies are, what they like to run,

726
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Speaker 8: so that that pendulum swings both ways. So while it

727
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Speaker 8: will work against the Cowboys and you know of the

728
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Speaker 8: Commanders with Quinn and Wit knowing what the tendencies are,

729
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Speaker 8: also means that McCarthy knows what dan quinn is likely

730
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Speaker 8: to call it in any given situation, how to attack

731
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Speaker 8: his defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Quite Frankly, I think it probably if you want to

734
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Speaker 5: use the word compromise, I think that's a bit of

735
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Speaker 5: a strong word. But if you want to use that word,

736
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Speaker 5: it compromises the Cowboys offense far more than the defense

737
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Speaker 5: in my opinion. I know you mentioned earlier he knows

738
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Speaker 5: their defensive players, but I do think scheme matters, and

739
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Speaker 5: I think they'll probably be doing a lot of things

740
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Speaker 5: differently defensively that may accentuate some positives and affect some

741
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Speaker 5: of the things that dan Quinn could or Joe Wood

742
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Speaker 5: could say, well, this is how you get Darron Bland. Well,

743
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Speaker 5: I would think the defensive coordinator at this point would

744
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Speaker 5: look at it and say, Okay, I know these are

745
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Speaker 5: some challenges of this player. How does my scheme put

746
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Speaker 5: them in a better position. So I think, actually, if

747
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Speaker 5: you want to say one of them may be compromised more,

748
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Speaker 5: it may be. You know, what we know is this

749
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Speaker 5: is what they do on their offense. Here's how you

750
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Speaker 5: can affect Dak Prescott. Here's how you can affect their

751
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Speaker 5: right tackle. Here's you know what I'm saying, because they've

752
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Speaker 5: been you know, self scouting. They have that kind of information,

753
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Speaker 5: and that's where I think it's gonna be a little

754
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Speaker 5: bit harder. It'll be harder on the Dallas offense, I

755
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Speaker 5: think than the Dallas defense because the Dallas defense will

756
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Speaker 5: probably change so much with.

757
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Speaker 2: A new coordinator.

758
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Speaker 8: But also going to Ambar's point, and you make a

759
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Speaker 8: fair point as far as it compromising the Cowboys offense,

760
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Speaker 8: but it is a rebuild for the Commanders and their

761
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Speaker 8: defensive line. I mean, you have the two big boys

762
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Speaker 8: up front of the interior and pain and Island. They

763
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Speaker 8: got a pass rush, but you don't have any edge rushers.

764
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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 8: Your secondary is more or less in shamboos. Your linebacker

766
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Speaker 8: corps is quite right. So as much as dan Quinn

767
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Speaker 8: has the person not the personnel, but has the scheme

768
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Speaker 8: to kind of compromise the Cowboys offense, the Cowboys offense

769
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Speaker 8: has the firepower to compromise a being basically a revamped

770
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Speaker 8: personnel on the Commander's side of the ball defensively, So

771
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Speaker 8: ultimately it might all just be a wash and it

772
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Speaker 8: might just come down to execution. Who has the better

773
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Speaker 8: players and right now it's the Cowboys and Ken McCarthy

774
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Speaker 8: not be out schemed by dan quinn.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, for us looking at.

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Speaker 8: It, it's probably just going to feel like a training

777
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 8: camp battle, right is dan quinn's play calling versus Mike

778
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Speaker 8: McCarthy's play calling.

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Speaker 2: And we saw that all July and August. So let's

780
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Speaker 2: flip to the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 5: They have two new coordinators that both are interesting from

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Speaker 5: the standpoint of the Cowboys their offense. New offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 5: Kelvin Moore obviously was here with the Cowboys for years

784
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Speaker 5: as the offensive coordinator. Here Vic Fangio, is there a

785
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Speaker 5: new defensive coordinator, a guy that is I think I

786
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 5: think some of the talk around Fangio has been a

787
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Speaker 5: little bit overblown. I do think obviously when he was

788
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Speaker 5: in Denver that game the Cowboys played against the Broncos,

789
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Speaker 5: he certainly had the better of the Cowboys offense.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I agree with that.

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Speaker 5: Last year against Miami, I think I don't think that

792
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Speaker 5: the Miami defense necessarily shut down the Cowboys offense.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a close game.

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Speaker 5: I thought both teams had a little success and had

795
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 5: some issues where you know it didn't quite work out,

796
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Speaker 5: But I don't think it was a domination, where I too,

797
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 5: that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, would't think that was a domination.

799
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Speaker 5: But that all being said, looking at those two guys,

800
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Speaker 5: which of those you think could be most problematic for

801
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 5: the Cowboys Kelvin Moore's offensive coordinator or Vick Fango as

802
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 5: a defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: That's a good question.

804
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Speaker 8: It would be easy to say Keller Moore because you

805
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 8: know familiarity, right, But what Kellen Moore is not familiar

806
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 8: with is Mike Zimmer. So advantage Cowboys there because it's

807
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Speaker 8: not Kella Moore going against dan Quinn. And even when

808
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 8: it was killing Moore going against dan Quyn and Los Angeles,

809
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 8: dan Quinn and the Cowboys came out with the w so,

810
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 8: but like I said, he doesn't he being Kella Moore,

811
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Speaker 8: he doesn't know Mike Zimmer's scheme and what he's going

812
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 8: to call. So I'm going to look at Vic Fangio

813
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 8: in this aspect because Fangio has had some consistent success

814
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Speaker 8: in kind of bodiling up.

815
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott and what Dak likes to do.

816
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Speaker 8: So I think that while like you said, it wasn't

817
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 8: you know, Fangio with the Dolphins. It wasn't this, It

818
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 8: wasn't Steve Spagnolo down there type performance type thing. But

819
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 8: he's one of the better and more respective defensive minds

820
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 8: in the league going to your division, one of your

821
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 8: bitter divisional So I think it's going to be a

822
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 8: bigger challenge for Dak to get over the Fangio quote

823
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 8: unquote hump. If that's how you want to label it,

824
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Speaker 8: then it would be for Mike Zimber to sche or

825
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Speaker 8: out scheme Kellen Moore, who at times struggled in Los

826
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Speaker 8: Angeles as well, because keep in mind, if Kellen Moore

827
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Speaker 8: was so electric in Los Angeles, he's still be in

828
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Speaker 8: Los Angeles as opposed to one and done. So I'm

829
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Speaker 8: going to look at evangel and versus Dak Prescott, and

830
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Speaker 8: I think this is one of the few defensive coordinators

831
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 8: that Dak Prescott consistently kind of struggles to be explosive against.

832
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Speaker 8: So if you can figure that out, then the Eagles

833
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 8: will be less of a problem.

834
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Speaker 2: But they're going to be a problem.

835
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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: To me, they're kind of equal in a little bit

837
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Speaker 7: regarding your question. But Vangeol, He's like, I'm more impressed

838
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Speaker 7: with what the Dolphins were able to do at the

839
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Speaker 7: end of the day, the season they had, So I

840
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Speaker 7: got to take that kind of experiences. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

841
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Speaker 7: So I'm taking just that experience, his most recent experience

842
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 7: and the level of success that he had to that

843
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 7: being a little bit higher than what Kellen Moore brings

844
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Speaker 7: to the table right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the interesting part for me is I actually think

846
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 5: Fangio had that defense playing really well. I think they'll

847
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 5: correct some of their personnel issues in the secondary, but

848
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 5: the fact that he has that pass rush and he

849
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 5: has some horses up front, and I think the thing

850
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 5: that Fangio does really well is he knows how to

851
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 5: get pressure. And I think because he had now there's

852
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Speaker 5: some I know, I thought you about to go there

853
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 5: with the there is a possibility that somebody might be

854
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 5: a little disgruntled and might not be back. But that

855
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 5: all being said, let's assume they have all the personnel

856
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 5: that they have right now. If they have the personnel

857
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Speaker 5: they have right now, that defense will be scary. They

858
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 5: will have a pass rush and it will be difficult.

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Speaker 5: The more interesting part is the offense for me, because

860
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 5: people can can try to you know, I think a

861
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 5: lot of Cowboys fans look at Kellen Moore in a.

862
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 2: Way that he shouldn't be viewed.

863
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Speaker 5: I think they look at him as lesser than what

864
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Speaker 5: he was. He had some really good offenses here with Dallas.

865
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 5: He cast some really good offense and they I mean

866
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 5: they were talking. Yeah, they were up at the top

867
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Speaker 5: of the league in offense. And don't get me wrong,

868
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 5: yes they had challenges against some opponents. They'd have some

869
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 5: challenges sometimes in the playoffs. All those things are true,

870
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 5: got it. But by and large he called an offense

871
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Speaker 5: that was consistently really good and probably among and not

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Speaker 5: probably among the best in the league. So when you

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Speaker 5: look at it from that standpoint, and you look at

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Speaker 5: where the Eagles were last year, especially at the end

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Speaker 5: of the season on their offense, where they feel it

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Speaker 5: felt like they were really stifled, I think that's where

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Speaker 5: I'm more interested in. How does he turn that around?

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Speaker 5: Does he get them into it? So, does he get

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Speaker 5: Jalen Hurst to play a certain brand of football that

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Speaker 5: makes him as good as Dak Prescott. There was a time,

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Speaker 5: not last year, but year before last one, a lot

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Speaker 5: of people were saying Jalen Hurst was one of the

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Speaker 5: better quarterbacks in the league, and last year things fell off.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't the same.

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Speaker 5: They weren't able to do all the things they did before.

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Speaker 5: I'm interested to see if Kellen Wore can get that

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Speaker 5: out of that offense because they got talent on the offense.

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Speaker 5: They got a great offensive line, they got great skill

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Speaker 5: position players, so they got talent. I want to see

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Speaker 5: how he puts that together. So that's going to be

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Speaker 5: the interesting one.

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Speaker 8: But to that point, this is also why I view

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Speaker 8: Fangio as the bigger threat of the two, because the

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Speaker 8: first when I heard the news that Kella Moore was

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Speaker 8: going to join the Eagles as offensive courting, the first

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Speaker 8: thing that popped in my head was how does he

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Speaker 8: fit with what Jalen Hurts does well? Right, this is

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Speaker 8: a run first offense in Philadelphia. They do so much

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Speaker 8: damage on the ground bit with Jalen Hurts his legs,

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Speaker 8: DeAndre Swift, those guys in the backfield. But one of

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Speaker 8: the reasons that Kellen Moore was on the outs here

902
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Speaker 8: in Dallas on the back end of his career here

903
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Speaker 8: is because he wanted to pass the ball. And he

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Speaker 8: even he stood at the podium one day admitted it.

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Speaker 8: He said if it were up to me, I just passed, pass, past,

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Speaker 8: passed sixty times a game. But he said, and I quote,

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Speaker 8: but I've had to learn to kind of scale back. Okay,

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Speaker 8: which Kella Moore is showing up in Philadelphia? Is it

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Speaker 8: the one that sees Devonte Smith and sees aj Brown

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Speaker 8: and sees Dallas Goddard and say, well, I have these weapons.

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Speaker 2: I just want to throw, throw, throw, throw, throw.

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Speaker 8: Well, Jalen Hurts showed last year that while he can

913
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Speaker 8: drop back and throw, he if you force him to

914
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Speaker 8: throw forty five fifty times, you'll probably win that game.

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Speaker 8: So I wonder, how y all killing Moore is going

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Speaker 8: to your point, how is he going to ask Jalen

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Speaker 8: Hurts to play the game of football going forty? Is

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Speaker 8: he going to say, I'm going to make you a

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Speaker 8: forty forty time dropbacker. If that's the case, the Cowboys

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Speaker 8: have to be thrilled with that, because that's what you

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Speaker 8: want to see, especially with Trevon Diggs returning. You got

922
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Speaker 8: de Ron Bland, if you can get Stefan Gilmore, your

923
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Speaker 8: secondary is good against that. But if they're not willing

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Speaker 8: to run the ball and at least create some sembilance,

925
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Speaker 8: of balance, then you have a better chance of your

926
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Speaker 8: pass rush being successful because your pass rush is going

927
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Speaker 8: to be asked to go out the quarterback more often

928
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Speaker 8: than to stop the run.

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Speaker 5: So let me ask you this question, who's better DeAndre

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Speaker 5: Swift or AJ Brown?

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Speaker 2: Well? AJ Brown? AJ Brown.

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Speaker 5: The only point I'm gonna make here is that's great

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Speaker 5: to say unless he gets to Philadelphia and has a

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Speaker 5: way of developing Jalen Hurts into being a guy that

935
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Speaker 5: could throw the ball forty times a game because he's

936
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Speaker 5: got the wide receivers and the tight end that if

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Speaker 5: he can get it going, he would be deadly. Like

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Speaker 5: that would be a deadly offense if they get that

939
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Speaker 5: passing game going consistently enough. Right, So don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying that Jalen may or may not be

941
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Speaker 5: there yet. What I'm saying is Kellen Moore was able

942
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Speaker 5: to do with By the way, when Dak Prescott got

943
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Speaker 5: to the NFL, most people didn't call him a drop

944
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Speaker 5: back passage, right. Somehow he developed into a drop back

945
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Speaker 5: passer and now can light you up.

946
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Speaker 2: Right, That's why he developed great.

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Speaker 5: Great, But my point is it doesn't mean you can't

948
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Speaker 5: do it. It doesn't mean that if you come in

949
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Speaker 5: and you are this doesn't mean that within a year's time,

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Speaker 5: two years time, whatever, you can't develop into something else.

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Speaker 5: I think that that's where I look at it, and

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Speaker 5: that's my point. I think that's the more interesting hire

953
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Speaker 5: to me is I want to see if Kellen can

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Speaker 5: get that passing game going in a way where they

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Speaker 5: can really take advantage of those skill position players. Because

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Speaker 5: I don't think there aren't many teams in the league

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Speaker 5: that have better skill position players.

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Speaker 2: Their teams have a better quarterback. I don't know that

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Speaker 2: there are.

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Speaker 5: Many to have better skill position players. So when you

961
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Speaker 5: start looking at from that standpoint, he's got something to

962
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Speaker 5: work with. If they can develop the things they want

963
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Speaker 5: to develop and Hurts, it can get really really really

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Speaker 5: interesting out there.

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Speaker 8: For that's true, It just feels like the if, the

966
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Speaker 8: question of if is bigger on the killing more side

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Speaker 8: of the ball than fanjis.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we appreciate you guys join us.

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Speaker 5: We're back next week and we'll get into some maybe

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Speaker 5: some time tom we'll see how We'll see how it

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Speaker 5: goes and U we'll just we'll play it. By year,

972
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Speaker 5: there'll meet maybe news there will be something we got

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Speaker 5: to talk about. We're only a couple of weeks from

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Speaker 5: free agency starting, so there's a lot that we still

975
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Speaker 5: got to get into as we get ready for free agency,

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Speaker 5: and hopefully, hopefully this year there'll be a little bit

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Speaker 5: of that all in juice on on free.

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Speaker 6: Agent, free agency, on a parade.

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Speaker 5: Stop it all right, We appreciate you join us. We'll

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Speaker 5: be back next week with Patrick Walker and Amber Garcia.

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