WEBVTT - “Mixology 101 with Bartender Josh Suchan” 

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to start by pointing out that you're wearing

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<v Speaker 1>some really clean temps.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these teams are the right amount of urban.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah. Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The last show I did, I wore a suit, but

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<v Speaker 2>I used to wear tims whenever you wouldn't see my

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<v Speaker 2>feet on screen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to do it, bro, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>do this long term.

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<v Speaker 4>Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are heavy, and they're like, they don't even ban Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, growing up in Chicago and having these since

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<v Speaker 2>I was in high.

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<v Speaker 3>School, you just get used to them.

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<v Speaker 2>If he gets used to my wife. You know, my

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<v Speaker 2>wife says you still dress exactly like you did in

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<v Speaker 2>high school. And I was like, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>And then all of a sudden, I'm getting Damn, she's right.

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<v Speaker 1>You have different color. I have a pair of brown.

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<v Speaker 2>And but but the classic Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean there's like every cut, yeah, every color. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>were you ever a Tim guy? I gave it a shot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but people thought I was false advertising, So why I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I went back to Ali Davins and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>biker boots and uh and Lee jeans and uh.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're from Venezuela, you're not allowed to have

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<v Speaker 2>tims on.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't. I don't think that at the time

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<v Speaker 1>that I grew up there they had ever made the

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<v Speaker 1>cross around the pond, you know. Yeah, But but I

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<v Speaker 1>love the tims. It's I do have tims right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So whenever I feel a little hip hop, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>little hipp a little hip hop, I put my tims on.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we zipping on right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Littlecito here?

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<v Speaker 1>And that might change, Salud, that might change. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to welcome everybody to those amigos. I am Wilmer Valderrama.

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<v Speaker 3>I am Freddie Rodriguez.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, today we have an interesting episode as we

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<v Speaker 1>get into topical things, you know. You know, for us Latinos,

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<v Speaker 1>we like celebrating life, you know, and when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrating life, we get quite a run at it.

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<v Speaker 1>We get a lot of a lot of moments to

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate life and living and and you know, and what

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<v Speaker 1>we love about life. Were you Were you someone that

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<v Speaker 1>did you go out a lot when you were young?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, had I had children at a very early age,

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<v Speaker 2>so maybe not as much as a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>people from our generation did, but you know, I went

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<v Speaker 2>out here and there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, when I first, you made me out a

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<v Speaker 1>few times I did. This is a great opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>introduce my friend Josh, so you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Josh was good.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh, Josh. Everything is good when Josh is in the building,

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<v Speaker 1>It really is good. Josh has been someone who had

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<v Speaker 1>taught me so much about about liquored and about drinks

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<v Speaker 1>and appreciating the craftsmanship of drinks. You know, at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>when we started, you know, our celebrating life careers, we

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<v Speaker 1>technically didn't really you know, whatever it was we were drinking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and yes, you know, it was what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>But but as I got older, I started realizing the craftsmanship,

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<v Speaker 1>the history, you know, the legacy of of of of

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<v Speaker 1>these alcohols, and and the history it was attached to.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I met Josh, you know, Josh actually came

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<v Speaker 1>and did a whole whole class, like a like a

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<v Speaker 1>drink making class, mixologist class for for my for my

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<v Speaker 1>lady's birthday one year, and it was the best experience.

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<v Speaker 1>He's incredible. So you know, he's a curator of of

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<v Speaker 1>incredible restaurants and hotels, and you know, the guy makes

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<v Speaker 1>the most delicious drinks for you know, all the bars

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<v Speaker 1>and and all that. So I you know, not only

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<v Speaker 1>he's a dear friend of us, but he's helped me

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate so many special moments of my life. So he

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<v Speaker 1>will be our third amigo in this episode. Josh, Josh, Hey, Josh. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>So tell us a little bit about your your passion

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<v Speaker 1>and like what what you know what led you to

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<v Speaker 1>your company? And tell us a little bit of your

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<v Speaker 1>about your company too.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, my background academically is an architecture and design,

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<v Speaker 4>So I started bartending during college to help pay for it,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was all nightclub stuff, which was a blast.

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<v Speaker 4>We're talking about previous life, nightclub stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>And then when I.

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<v Speaker 4>Graduated, it was that recession, the financial crisis of two

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<v Speaker 4>thousand and eight nine, so no architecture going on.

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<v Speaker 5>So I just continued bartending and eventually kind of found

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<v Speaker 5>my way.

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<v Speaker 4>To the more craftier sider mixology or whatever you want

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<v Speaker 4>to call it these days, and from there all the

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<v Speaker 4>creative wheels just started spinning again. You know, you have context,

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<v Speaker 4>you have history, you have culture, you have all this

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<v Speaker 4>kind of stuff all combined. It's just that now my

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<v Speaker 4>platform is in a glass in a space, kind of

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<v Speaker 4>curating that kind of experience versus you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 4>creating a space in architecture. So it was an interesting transition.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't say it was like the smoothest initially, but

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<v Speaker 4>once I kind of got into the feel of it

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<v Speaker 4>and the rhythm, now it's like the back of my hand,

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<v Speaker 4>and I love it like I'm an everyday learner, and

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<v Speaker 4>I just like coming up with stuff that is, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's all historically amazingly relevant, but also fun and trendy

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<v Speaker 4>and knew and exciting for new people.

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<v Speaker 2>What inspires those drinks, Josh, it can come from anything,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, you know, any experience that you have, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe there's an interesting like flavor affinity that I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>thought of before.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Traveling is huge, you know, anytime I'm traveling and checking

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<v Speaker 4>out new cultures and what they're working with.

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<v Speaker 2>When was the last time you were somewhere that inspired

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<v Speaker 2>a drink?

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<v Speaker 4>Greece probably, Yeah, Greece playing with a lot of they

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<v Speaker 4>had passion fruit everywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>What it was almost like.

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<v Speaker 4>That season or that year, but they had passion fruit everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's an ingredient that I love but never really

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<v Speaker 4>like dove into that much.

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<v Speaker 5>And so it was one of those things.

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<v Speaker 4>When I came back, I was like, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>deep dive into passion fruits. So I'm starting to clarify

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<v Speaker 4>and carbonate it and you know, even distilling it whatever

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<v Speaker 4>it is to kind of like turn it into something

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<v Speaker 4>that is different.

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<v Speaker 5>Different.

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<v Speaker 1>So you really so you really say you grab an

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<v Speaker 1>ingredient and you evolved that ingredient to serve as a

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<v Speaker 1>number of objectives for your creations. Is that how you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>You're just you play with this ingredient.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's what you wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 4>If I sink my teeth into something like that, like

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<v Speaker 4>I will just dissect it until there's nothing left to

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<v Speaker 4>take apart, you know. And so it's one of those

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<v Speaker 4>things that like, uh, sometimes I like to keep it classic,

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<v Speaker 4>tried and true and just let it be what it is,

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<v Speaker 4>and sometimes like, well what can it be?

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<v Speaker 5>Just let your imagination run wild? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I mean and listen, I'm a I'm a believer.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh comes in and he preaches that that a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of that, a little bit of this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>smoky this, and yeah, garment that you're like, all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, it's like wow, it's effortless, but it took

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<v Speaker 1>me to a different dimension. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I love sort of the artistic angle that you

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<v Speaker 2>have on for sure. Yeah, instead of like an average

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<v Speaker 2>and there's nothing wrong with it, like an average bartender.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you take it to a next level.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that's what's cool about the industry, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like you can take it as far as you want to.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe that's with every industry, but especially a creative industry.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, as a bartender, you can pour shots and

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<v Speaker 4>beer and be be the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's totally fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Or you can take it to the nth degree and

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden you find yourself doing the consulting

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<v Speaker 4>for bars and restaurants and resorts.

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<v Speaker 5>And stuff like that or whatever it is. So it

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<v Speaker 5>really is endless.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so interesting, so to great that it's interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>when you go to a restaurant or a resort, or

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<v Speaker 1>you go to a hotel in the city, or you

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<v Speaker 1>go to a boutique you know, speak easy and you

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<v Speaker 1>go to the bar and you have a menu. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody had to be the scientist behind this hero menu.

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<v Speaker 1>We never think about it because they're like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, okay, this is this is it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>a like a martine but with a spin, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you start thinking about who is this individual who

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<v Speaker 1>comes in here and who's tried so many different types

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<v Speaker 1>of ingredients and then different configurations to kind of achieve

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<v Speaker 1>what the you know, the taste maker that's that's creating

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<v Speaker 1>the environment for that bar. You know that that individual

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<v Speaker 1>who's saying this bar needs to feel a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>smokey us, a little bit of this, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>has to translate all the ingredients, the decor, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the music that's played there, and translated into an experience

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<v Speaker 1>on that glass. I mean, did I know that?

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<v Speaker 5>Or you're not wrong at all.

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<v Speaker 4>It's basically a piece that becomes more than the some

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<v Speaker 4>of his parts when it's all put together.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's it's it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Oftentimes the beverage program or the cocktail program, whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 4>can be overlooked and you know, people either feel it

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<v Speaker 4>consciously or subconsciously. But when it all comes together at

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<v Speaker 4>that same quality level, like that's when people are just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like whether they know it or not, they

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<v Speaker 4>leave feeling that thing that you want them to leave with.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this thing restaurant first, So, oh, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curating in the restaurants bar, what is the most common

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<v Speaker 1>drink that the manager wants on that menu.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it kind of depends place to place, but

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<v Speaker 4>I would say, especially in Southern California, the margarita. And

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to be warming up with a margarita variation today.

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<v Speaker 1>What I was not expecting this today.

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<v Speaker 5>Tahuila here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would say the margarita is just like probably

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<v Speaker 4>the most popular cocktail in the world, and so especially

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<v Speaker 4>in Southern California, we do love our agave spirit.

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<v Speaker 5>So making sure you take that and.

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<v Speaker 4>You just bat it out of the park, even if

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<v Speaker 4>it's just a classic margarita, you know, just like making

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<v Speaker 4>sure you have that dialed in.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the most creative margarita you've ever created?

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<v Speaker 5>A version of what I'm going to be doing right here.

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<v Speaker 4>So basically what I am doing is taking I kind

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<v Speaker 4>of make a lime acid solution by making like a

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<v Speaker 4>lime oil tea and then that way it's perfectly crystal

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<v Speaker 4>clear when I'm serving it with the drink, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>topping it with a like a Grand Margnier alo foam

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<v Speaker 4>because I feel like the Cadillac margarita like, everyone orders

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<v Speaker 4>a Cadillac margarita. Everyone knows what it is, right, but

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<v Speaker 4>at the same time that dream just gets messed up

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<v Speaker 4>so many places that you go because there's no like

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<v Speaker 4>standardized recipe for it necessarily and so you might order

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<v Speaker 4>a Cadillac margarita fied different places are going to get

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<v Speaker 4>five different Katellac margaritas. So like I'm what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 4>to do with this is take something we all think

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<v Speaker 4>we know and love or hate, I don't know, and

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<v Speaker 4>then then turning it into something that is genuinely special

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<v Speaker 4>and worth that premium price point, worth that premium experience,

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<v Speaker 4>all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>If a bartender were to ask you for the best

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<v Speaker 1>advice you could give him to make a consistently good margarita,

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<v Speaker 1>what would you say one is the most common mistake

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<v Speaker 1>that bartenders make, meaning like a little bit too much

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<v Speaker 1>of that or a little bit too little of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And what would be the one thing that you feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>could they could walk away from this conversation and say, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>like yes, I'm gonna my my marita game is going

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<v Speaker 1>to go up to go up two levels.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say the biggest mistake is and something we're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna hate this answer, but not measuring what you're putting

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<v Speaker 4>in there right right, Like when they're working with a

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<v Speaker 4>multi component recipe, you kind of got to pay attention

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<v Speaker 4>to what those ratio are. And like some people can

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<v Speaker 4>do it by counting, some people can't, some people use jiggers,

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<v Speaker 4>some people don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 4>But as long as you know your measurements are on point,

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<v Speaker 4>that's going to get you so much closer to the

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<v Speaker 4>finish line that you want to be at. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 4>I would say, like if you really want to up

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<v Speaker 4>the like your cocktail game, like a really good way

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<v Speaker 4>to think about how to make a great cocktails understanding

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<v Speaker 4>like having the quality of ingredients, the quality of your recipe,

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<v Speaker 4>like make sure your sources are right, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>the Internet is full of misinformation, including in the bar

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<v Speaker 4>industry and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 5>So quality of the recipe, quality ingredients.

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<v Speaker 4>And then probably the biggest thing, and this is why

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<v Speaker 4>I do a lot of consulting, is the quality of

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<v Speaker 4>the technique. You know, not all ice is created equal,

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<v Speaker 4>Shaking different ways will produce different results, like all this

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<v Speaker 4>kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's all those little nuances.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you're able to kind of if you feel

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<v Speaker 4>like dissecting it to that level, go for it. You're

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<v Speaker 4>just gonna end up with a better product and like

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<v Speaker 4>surprise yourself every since.

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<v Speaker 2>But you have obviously, I mean, yeah, are you are

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<v Speaker 2>you actually there testing shakes out?

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<v Speaker 5>Would share develops what thousand?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? And there's books on it from people smarter than

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<v Speaker 4>I in the industry and stuff. So it's one of

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<v Speaker 4>those things, like I say, is if I if I

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<v Speaker 4>never thought I would geek out so hard on anything

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<v Speaker 4>like this in my life.

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<v Speaker 5>But if I'm going to kick out on something, it's

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<v Speaker 5>booze and it's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Is your favorite margarita an an yejo base or a

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<v Speaker 1>blanco base? Blanco so much easier to drink, right, And.

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<v Speaker 4>It's also it's just got It's just it's it's tequila

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<v Speaker 4>in its natural state. It's got those vegetable notes. It

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<v Speaker 4>just play so well like you you really do taste

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the origin of the product kind of thing

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<v Speaker 4>as soon as you start barrelaging it. I love it

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<v Speaker 4>for different reasons, but for my margarita, uh, definitely a blanco.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So when people I also I was thinking, so

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<v Speaker 1>you Nique, when people use like just because they want

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<v Speaker 1>the most expensive shot in the in the in the margarita,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll ask for like an Anejo and he's such a climb.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a crime to drop a shot of a

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<v Speaker 1>really good and yeho inside you know, water ice, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's like you lose the point of aging

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<v Speaker 1>it for that long. I I what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about that?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't get it in the margarita personally,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it is kind of a social flex.

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<v Speaker 5>But don't get me wrong. Some people do love you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, ah, you know aneo tequil on the margarita's it's

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<v Speaker 4>not my drink.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't care go for it, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>But that said, in Los Angeles, I have made one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and twenty five dollars margaritas before and round for people,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And and is that is that what makes it expensive?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it that.

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<v Speaker 4>You're getting that you know, limited release, you know, addition

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<v Speaker 4>from a distillery that you know aren't going to produce

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<v Speaker 4>any more of that thing, and they're having a business

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<v Speaker 4>meeting and boom, just lay them out there. So I

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<v Speaker 4>mean they're still getting a great product for all the

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<v Speaker 4>reasons we talked about the ingredients technique, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>But but you're saying, heyquila like that is is more

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<v Speaker 2>meant to be sipped as opposed to using it as

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<v Speaker 2>a mixture or shooting it back right, you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>order to enjoy the taste and the process.

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<v Speaker 4>And I would say, yeah, it's like anything that you're

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<v Speaker 4>trying to really kind of sit back and taste the

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the quality of the product and its origins

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<v Speaker 4>and history and all that kind of stuff. Sipping it

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<v Speaker 4>is going to give you a bit more of an

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<v Speaker 4>opportunity to appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that.

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<v Speaker 4>That said, I love taking shots, you know, back in

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<v Speaker 4>the day, and I love taking tequila shots, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's, I guess, to each their own. But in

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<v Speaker 4>my advanced years here, sipping is the way to go.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the what's the worst hangover you've ever had?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh jeez, what were you?

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<v Speaker 3>What were you drinking?

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<v Speaker 2>The absolute worst hangover you ever had?

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<v Speaker 5>Because of.

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<v Speaker 4>What I do for a living, I've probably had a

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<v Speaker 4>few hangovers that have knocked years of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Off for a couple of dog years.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say usually my worst hangover are the ones

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<v Speaker 4>where I'm you know, at some sort of events where uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you're just kind of drinking what you're giving

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<v Speaker 4>in its own open bar kind of situation, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>What I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>Weddings, great example, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everyone's happy, everyone wants the bartender to drink with them, right, yeah, even.

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<v Speaker 4>If I'm just a guest at the at the the wedding.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's like how many glasses of one did

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<v Speaker 4>you have?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, because the glass was never empty, Like

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<v Speaker 4>they just keep coming around. So kind of the same

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<v Speaker 4>thing with an open bar situation like.

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<v Speaker 5>Those are? Those are?

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<v Speaker 4>I can't say I can't pinpoint a specific one because

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<v Speaker 4>trust me, there's been like a handful where like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you just you just want to fast forward, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>just that they lead that night.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So wait, so what what I don't know? I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you there's one of a couple of things that I

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<v Speaker 1>have a tough time sometimes with is saki. H yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this choice me the next day. Really, that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't drink. I mean, look, no transparency, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>drink you know often at all anymore? Right, I get

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<v Speaker 1>I used to celebrate and I haven't drink, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at dinner and all the stuff from now. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>about like, what is the purest form of hduo that

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<v Speaker 1>I can find at a place?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>But but but yeah, back in the day, I will

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<v Speaker 1>go to these amazing sushi restaurants and then they will

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<v Speaker 1>want to pair this saki with the courses. Right, they

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<v Speaker 1>do this four or five six course meals, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they paired the saki with it, and man, that I

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<v Speaker 1>mean just doesn't agree with No, it doesn't agree with me.

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<v Speaker 1>For in champagne, for some recent champagne, I can't, oh

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<v Speaker 1>cheap champagne.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, cheap champagne.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it'll destroy you. So this so this techia, this

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<v Speaker 1>margarita you're making today, do you have a name for it?

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<v Speaker 5>Really?

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<v Speaker 4>It kind of goes by a couple of different names

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<v Speaker 4>because I'll have like variations of it in different places.

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<v Speaker 5>But basically I call it the pimped out Cadillac margarita.

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<v Speaker 5>You ever see pimped my ride, pimp my ride with yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>exhib it back.

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<v Speaker 4>In the day, take those beaters and turn it into

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<v Speaker 4>these low riders and stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>It's kind of what I'm doing. I'm taking the Cadillac

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm pimping it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, okay, okay, okay, all right, man, there's there's

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<v Speaker 2>no Boons farm, is it right? We're doing a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit better a Mad Dog twenty twenty or yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 5>That's that was one of the hangovers.

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<v Speaker 4>Like now that we're and you guys reminded me when

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<v Speaker 4>I was living in South Korea teaching English, sold you.

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<v Speaker 5>Like that it was cheaper than water over there.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to make it internationally known that he

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<v Speaker 1>just well, first of all, that shout out to my

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<v Speaker 1>daughter running up in the roof of our podcast, as

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<v Speaker 1>she always makes an appearance on these episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Four.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she used the fourth and little but small flags

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<v Speaker 1>you used to teach English and South Korea? I sure did, man.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Actually, my wife now is my girlfriend at the time,

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<v Speaker 5>and we're both just not in love with what we

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<v Speaker 5>were doing in Portland, Oregon.

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<v Speaker 4>We're like, we want as big a change as possible, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and so we uh packed up with South Korea for

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<v Speaker 4>a year English and just I mean loved it.

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<v Speaker 5>I learned a good amount of Korean while I was

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<v Speaker 5>over there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no way, Yeah, why Korea?

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<v Speaker 3>Why did you choose?

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<v Speaker 5>Like I said, I wanted to?

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<v Speaker 4>We wanted something that was so different, you know, so

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<v Speaker 4>like not not a romanized language that we could pick

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<v Speaker 4>up on terribly quickly, like really kind of push ourselves

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<v Speaker 4>outside of our comfort zones because we really felt like

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<v Speaker 4>Portland was just too comfortable for us at the time.

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<v Speaker 4>We were craving more adventure and it definitely shook things

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<v Speaker 4>up and we loved it.

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<v Speaker 5>Had a blast exploring Soul while we were there.

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<v Speaker 4>And but we would you know, we were actually in

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<v Speaker 4>this town outside of Soul about forty five minutes and

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<v Speaker 4>we'd take the metro in and uh, every weekend to

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<v Speaker 4>go to the night life.

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<v Speaker 5>We were like twenty five years old, you know, so

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<v Speaker 5>like twenty five years old on a.

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<v Speaker 4>Teacher's buzzet budget saving money over there, We're getting six

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<v Speaker 4>back packs of you know, the sixteen ounce bottles of

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<v Speaker 4>soju for like less than six dollars, and so you're

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<v Speaker 4>just playing drinking games with that.

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<v Speaker 5>And I swear the next day like there was no cure.

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<v Speaker 5>There was no cure.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, no, you have to let it wreck you that way.

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<v Speaker 5>It broke me like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, what has sowed you exactly?

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<v Speaker 5>It's a it's a rice distill it predominantly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, there's different sak' So saki is the wine

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<v Speaker 4>is brewed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's yeah, I'm sorry one one time. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the difference between sake and instead of.

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<v Speaker 4>So Basically, saki is brewed like a like a wine

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<v Speaker 4>or a beer essentially, and then to take it to

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<v Speaker 4>that distilled kind of soju level, you would actually run

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<v Speaker 4>it through a still right, and so it becomes higher proof.

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<v Speaker 4>Similar to how like if you take a beer and

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<v Speaker 4>you distill it, you get whiskey, or you take wine

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<v Speaker 4>and you distill it, you get a brandy.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, same deal.

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<v Speaker 2>And is there are there different qualities of soju?

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<v Speaker 5>For sure? Like I'm not knocking soad you as a whole.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just knocking myself for buying the chiefest planet.

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<v Speaker 1>The year old. So yeah, yeah. When when when you

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<v Speaker 1>all your travelers around the world, where when you're working,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're shooting movies or TV shows or you're just

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<v Speaker 1>out there promoting internationally, is there a restaurant that you

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<v Speaker 1>went to that you that you remember having it drink

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, wow, all of this ellen man start

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<v Speaker 1>coming together creating an unforgettable memory.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I wish I could remember the name of this restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in Mexico City, and I figured, well, if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in Mexico City, I want to try some of

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<v Speaker 2>the mescal. And we asked the waiter to bring some mescal.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, what's the best mescal you have?

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<v Speaker 1>And I kid you not.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy came with a bottle and it was dusty

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<v Speaker 2>and the name of the mescal was like written by

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<v Speaker 2>hand on there.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And he came with like a platter full of orange

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<v Speaker 2>slices and different and a variety of salt. And I'd

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<v Speaker 2>never had mescal that way and it was the absolute

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<v Speaker 2>best mescal I ever had in my life my school city.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>What about you for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see, we thank you so much. But what

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<v Speaker 1>do we have here, sir?

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<v Speaker 5>So? Like I said, this is our crystal clear.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we have that Grand Marnier Allo phone floating

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<v Speaker 4>floating over the top, so you kind of still get

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<v Speaker 4>that Grand Marnier float.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at how beautiful this Look at this thing, salute

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<v Speaker 1>sal look at this thing. This doesn't even salute to Vermelia.

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<v Speaker 1>For those who are listening to this episode, would you

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<v Speaker 1>mind describing what you're seeing?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see here, there's some phone, there is a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of lime. Is that correct on the on the top

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<v Speaker 2>and and it and it looks pretty clear on the bottom.

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<v Speaker 3>That's quite delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>I just have is that one cube?

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<v Speaker 5>One cube inside of there?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's great. I love the one cube for many

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<v Speaker 1>an amount of reasons. All right, what you years, Salon,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see what this is. Let's check this conversation turns

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<v Speaker 1>into three or four of these.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh man, wow, coming off of dry, Jedyary me, yes,

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<v Speaker 6>quite literally.

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<v Speaker 1>Dry? What well, No, we just got some rain, We

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<v Speaker 1>just got some rain.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So what about you, Wimar, Have you been incredibly impressed

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<v Speaker 2>by a drink you've had at a certain city, at

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<v Speaker 2>a certain restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So I went to Japan, oh, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>Japan Tokyo is my probably top two favorite cities in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. It's a place that I love so much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a place that reminds me so much of some

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<v Speaker 1>of the most precious moments into my life. That's when

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<v Speaker 1>Amanda and I said I love you to each other

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time in Tokyo and Tokyo wow. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's when that kind of became a possibility. That's when

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<v Speaker 1>we said to each other that a family is what

0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:13.040
<v Speaker 1>we wanted with each other. So we went to this

0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:16.000
<v Speaker 1>one restaurant that looked like a Jaan'spond restaurant. The door

0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 1>just opened up. It was carved out of stone, you know.

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 1>You went downstairs and it was this underground restaurant, twelve

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<v Speaker 1>course meal, and halfway through, she accidentally says I love you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, it's all good, no worries, no word.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean Accidentally She's like, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we used to make you know, we used to make

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<v Speaker 1>the best bite, Like we got a fork and put

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of everything on our plate. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>give that best bite for the you know, to me

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<v Speaker 1>or to her. She said, you know I love you

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<v Speaker 1>because I she froze. It's like, you know, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she was like, she's like, I just what.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, No, it's all good. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, I you know, you have nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about it because I love you too. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was this moment which she was like and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>like we can get back, we can take it back now.

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<v Speaker 3>And were you dating?

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<v Speaker 1>We were dating for I think at this point we're

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<v Speaker 1>probably eight months or something. Yeah, you know, and we

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:15.920
<v Speaker 1>had just been traveling everywhere and we went and took

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a bunch of our dear friends and to

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<v Speaker 1>Japan and experienced this beautiful thing there. Anyways, my point

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<v Speaker 1>is that they had me taste is Japanese whiskey, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was something about the Japanese whiskey that just took

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<v Speaker 1>me to a different Oh yeah, it's just different. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just different. And you can taste almost heritage. You

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<v Speaker 1>can taste the wood, you can taste you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can take so many things that this liquord multi generationally

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<v Speaker 1>just has become. And the way they do it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes thirty plus years just to get one of

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<v Speaker 1>the batches, you know, like some of the whiskey is

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<v Speaker 1>really really it takes a long time, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>to to achieve and it just changed my life.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes sense because when we first started hanging, you

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<v Speaker 2>were really heavy on on Japanese whiskey. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>had it before, but the first time I've really ever

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<v Speaker 2>had it, had it was was with you.

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<v Speaker 3>You introduced me to it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think it's incredibly smooth and cool, but

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<v Speaker 2>it has such a deeper meaning for you and your

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<v Speaker 2>your family, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think that the way the Asian culture cultivates

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<v Speaker 1>their their liquor and what that liquor is supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>represent and what it does, you know, the way it

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<v Speaker 1>tastes makes the experience and where you're you know, you're partaking,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's a dinner, a celebration, and his whiskey is

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<v Speaker 1>just a different level, and you know, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>feel it, you can feel it that it was it

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<v Speaker 1>took hundreds of years to get this whiskey to where

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<v Speaker 1>it is, you know. So that's something that I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciated and really loved very much.

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<v Speaker 3>So that that was that was my nice What.

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<v Speaker 1>About you judge? You like you like Japanese whiskey?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I do. What's your favorite house?

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<v Speaker 3>Is really good? Story time?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's I don't know, I like all of them.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one of those things it's getting increasingly hard to get, really,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's but it's also well worth it for those

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<v Speaker 4>celebratory reasons for oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know you're not you're only allowed to buy

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<v Speaker 1>one bottle sometimes, right and if you're going to bring

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<v Speaker 1>one from Japan, you're not allowed to bring more than two,

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<v Speaker 1>right because because a limited batch's learned batch that they want.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys westbers so shoes.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to margrat to.

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<v Speaker 3>Fourth Amiga.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, the fourth Amiga's out here wildly house. She's

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<v Speaker 1>I think she can smell the you know, the foam

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<v Speaker 1>of this delicious margarita. So when you're in Japan, you're

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<v Speaker 1>only allowed to buy one bottle at a time, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's because they want as many people to experience this

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<v Speaker 1>as as possible, you know. But but you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>even hotels. Hotels, they got to have different dealers, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>different ores, you know, to be able to get their

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<v Speaker 1>hands on some of these bottles because they're just really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to find.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you Are you a wine guy at all?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you like wine or champagne or.

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<v Speaker 5>I do have deep dive into it as much.

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<v Speaker 4>Definitely, not as much as I have with spirits and

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<v Speaker 4>cocktails and stuff like that at this point, mostly because

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<v Speaker 4>not mostly because I don't want to throw it under

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<v Speaker 4>the bus. But my wife Jessica said somewhere along the

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<v Speaker 4>lines or someone along the lines of if you geek

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<v Speaker 4>out on wine the way you geeked out on spirits

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<v Speaker 4>and cocktails, I will not go wine tasting with you.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, oh, okay, fair enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that why?

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<v Speaker 4>Because there was a period where I was just I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think a lot of the like serious

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<v Speaker 4>bartenders at a certain point kind of get in a

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<v Speaker 4>phase where like even when you sit at the bar

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:47.679
<v Speaker 4>top like you're egalized, like you're looking watching everything movements.

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 4>She wouldn't even let me face the bar restaurants if

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 4>we went out to eat, you know, to face.

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<v Speaker 2>The towards the window, because you'd be judging it.

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:55.880
<v Speaker 5>I get distracted.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, too much, too heavy, too heavy on the phone, Yeah,

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 1>exactly exactly where you're going, too long in the smoker.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh So when she told me that about wine and

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<v Speaker 4>wine tasting is our happy place like passer roadblaze love,

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<v Speaker 4>oh cool, you know when we love them in a

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.159
<v Speaker 4>big way to Oregon wine country where we're from, Like

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 4>Jessica's parents live up there.

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Love that.

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<v Speaker 5>And so that was kind of a clear point to

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<v Speaker 5>me to not geek out.

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<v Speaker 4>But that said, I kind of have her blessing now

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<v Speaker 4>to go through the court of Somalia's so I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>start working my way through that process.

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<v Speaker 1>If I were to go to a restaurant or a hotel,

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<v Speaker 1>then I went to ask for this margarita. How much

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>would this margarita be?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, that's probably gonna be around it.

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<v Speaker 4>It depends on where you go, anywhere between probably nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>in La anywhere between nineteen and twenty four, probably right

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<v Speaker 4>twenty four.

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<v Speaker 5>It depends on the spirit that you're putting in there,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, what kind of tequilas listener, this one was

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 2>called rail Devia.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, it's relative. Shouldn't they really something to the market anymore?

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<v Speaker 5>But it's nice to one hundred percent of gave.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>And what I mean by that is it's like completely unadulterated,

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 4>because even one hundred percent of gaves can add up

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 4>to one percent of different additives.

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 5>And there is certain tastes like vanilla.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to talk a little bit about that because I

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the when when when Freddy and

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I went to dinner with Jay that night at Carlitos,

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about, you know, uh, liquor companies and

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<v Speaker 1>all these you know, all these incredible companies out there

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 1>that are have showcased their brand and such a level

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 1>that have become billion dollars, billion dollar empires. But at

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the heels are not so great tequilas tequila is that

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>when you really know the craftsmanship of tequila and in

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>the purity of his recipe, you know there is this

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a compromise when you're mass producing it

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 1>or you're trying to appeal to most and the recipe

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 1>gets gets morphed into something else. And you know, you

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>said the word vanilla, and I wanted, I wanted, I

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>wanted you to take a second to to put us

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<v Speaker 1>to school a little bit on what some of these

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 1>companies do to make to mask right, their inability to

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>make it good to keep it.

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<v Speaker 4>Basically by having those additives, it's just like you're saying,

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 4>you're trying to appeal to a broader market kind of thing.

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 4>It also gives them the opportunity to harvest the agaves

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 4>prematurely a bit right, which is going to yield them

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 4>an inferior you know, juice essentially that they're then going

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<v Speaker 4>to distill.

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>But it's a faster turnaround.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly because like nagave is going to take like minimum

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 4>six to eight years to mature minimum right, so they're

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<v Speaker 4>trying to get on the lesser end of that timeframe

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<v Speaker 4>and then doctor it up before selling it.

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<v Speaker 5>To the to the market. And don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 5>like they killed it, they killed it, they're.

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Selling about it, they're selling a bottom.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so it's one of those things, like I guess

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<v Speaker 5>it's trying to each their own.

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<v Speaker 4>I personally look for brands that are unadulterated, and I

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 4>also kind of as much as possible, like to know

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:04.719
<v Speaker 4>where the money's going. Is it going into the pockets

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 4>of the investors that are from the United States, or

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 4>is going into the pockets of the people and the

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 4>villages producing it, and you know, even up to like

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 4>different sustainability efforts things like that. So obviously that is

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 4>kind of the kind of stuff that the abje consumer

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 4>just doesn't have time to really digest.

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 1>And I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>That's totally fine. So yeah, that's just like, no, it's.

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>So important you say that, because you know, most people

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>are sold like, oh man, I love you know, and

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>we're not going to bash any bottles right now, but

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you one of the bottles or two

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 1>of the bottles that you know are the most exciting

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>to buy, you know, because of either lineage or name

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. You know, they've changed distilleries and therefore they're

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>trying to mass produce because now they're distributing so much

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 1>worldwide that you need more, you know, and you're talking

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 1>about it than you has to import, uh tequila for

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 1>the planet. Yeah, for the planet. So at some point

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna it's gonna have to be mass produced. And

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 1>some of these big brands, which look really fancy on

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<v Speaker 1>a bar, you know, have to mask their inability for

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<v Speaker 1>it to you know, be hed enough that eventually ferments

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<v Speaker 1>the way they're supposed to. But but but I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that you know, you talked about the vanilla astract

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 1>that sometimes people put a little vanilla and you're like,

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>oh it, guys like this tones of chocolate and vanilla finished,

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and you think that like, oh, that's what a tequila

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 1>is supposed to tastes like right, like oh cool, it's

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:42.080
<v Speaker 1>like sweet and so smooth, And really what it is

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>is it's like vanilla. It's just you know, you're putting

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>in a little sugar in it, so, you know, so

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>it goes down easier, you know what I mean. And look,

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't say maybe it's tequila's not drinkable. I'm saying

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. You're drinking it and you're loving it and

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 1>know it's what it is. But but when we go

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<v Speaker 1>down to a conversation of a zipper, yeah, you know

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>of something where you're investing into not just the quality

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the heritage, like Josh pointed out so eloquently, you know,

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>most importantly what you get in return for the investment

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>of that shot. You know, and you talk about some

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>of the Sometimes they'll sell you a shot of tequila

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>for seventy five dollars or eighty five dollars or ninety

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars, and it's the tequila I'm talking about. It's

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>the tequila that's like not you know, it's like that

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, not in in yeahoo.

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 2>That you're like, okay, well this is this tastes really sweet,

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 2>and that's the stuff that gives you the that gives

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 2>you the hangovers, right in many ways as the additives

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 2>and all that, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Would say, yeah, that that can definitely play a role

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<v Speaker 4>for sure, just kind of the hand of the producer,

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 4>how much care and for after they putting into it. Yeah,

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 4>it really is about like the heritage, especially in a

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 4>spirit that's like so special, like.

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<v Speaker 5>A Skyal tequila. I know, I sea all these things

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<v Speaker 5>down there are you.

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Are you more of a spirit guy as opposed to

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<v Speaker 2>a wine or pain.

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd say so, I'd say so. I mean I

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>can appreciate a gray wine. Like when I went to

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and shot this movie called A Sudden Case of Christmas

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:14.399
<v Speaker 1>with Daniel on Hulu on Hulu available for everybody right now.

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 1>The it was a beautiful summer Christmas movie with Danny

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:23.839
<v Speaker 1>de Vito and Lucy de Vito and Antonella who plays

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 1>my my little daughter. She's incredible, Annie McDonnell and a

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>bunch of amazing people and Peter who directed uh the movie,

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Sarahen Dibity And it's a beautiful movie and I like,

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>highly recommend it. We shut it up in the Dolomites

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>in North three, Italy, so we we were shooting up

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:46.840
<v Speaker 1>in the Rockies and the mountains of you know, the

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.720
<v Speaker 1>and it was just so special, you know. But anyways,

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 1>being in Italy for two months, you know, you got

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 1>to really understand how you accessorize your pasta, and that

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:00.320
<v Speaker 1>is with a good wine. You know, it's part of

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:01.959
<v Speaker 1>the Yeah, the olive oil.

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:02.800
<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a beautiful and not by the way,

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the Italian culture is it's the closest to latinos that

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I could ever imagine. Really, they're just family number one

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 1>sharing a meal, number two and number three, cell. I mean,

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I say number three is number one, celebrating life, like yes,

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>be happy that we're doing this, and you know, and

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 1>it was really beautiful. Every lunch that we had at

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 1>in this movie, every every every time that we had

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>a you know, a lunch, it was what you expected.

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Olive oil, bread, you know, pasta's soups. You know, it

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 1>was just like a beautiful, beautiful spread. And therefore, so

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 1>like yes, So I think that I really got to

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 1>really appreciate wine. And I went to Florence and Tuscany.

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 3>And I super Tuscans around.

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I went to two places where, you know,

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 1>they were like a family owned that you in order

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:58.919
<v Speaker 1>to get these bottles, you have to buy them from

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 1>them because it's not distributed it anywhere. And I really

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:07.440
<v Speaker 1>got to appreciate how beautiful, you know, the tradition of

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 1>wine is. And I really got to appreciate it. In

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Gray Wine, your work up the next morning, it's fine, right, Yeah.

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I've done two wine movies, man, So I got to

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.320
<v Speaker 2>spend a lot of time in a Walk into Clouds.

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:20.760
<v Speaker 3>My first movie was a wine.

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Movie, and I did a movie called Bottle Shock with

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 2>me Alan Rickman, Chris Pine, Bill Pullman, and we drank

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 2>a lot of wine.

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Research. You have to understand what face to make when

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>they say, you know exactly.

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 2>But man, I went to a lot of those different places,

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the different little family owned wineries. You know.

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:49.879
<v Speaker 2>It's funny, man, there's a lot of producers who used

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 2>to be who have retired and have started wineries out there.

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:55.400
<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, the producer you and I

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 2>both worked with Darryl Frank. His father owns I think

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 2>family wine not there.

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 1>You're right, I just remember, yes, I never.

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:05.359
<v Speaker 2>I never.

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:08.839
<v Speaker 1>By the way, shout out to their friends. Really, dear dear,

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 1>dear friend of ours. We should take him to dinner.

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 2>With Alvi Calvi, Yes, talv Oh red Amblet.

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I love those guys. Yeah.

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, his pop has a winery. The guy who wrote, uh,

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 2>the guy who wrote A Walk in the Clouds created

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:27.879
<v Speaker 2>karate Kid. Karate Kid is his story, and he owns

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:30.279
<v Speaker 2>a winery called Cayman Wineries out there.

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 3>But I got to take some of the most.

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Amazing you know, prior to that movie, Like, I never

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 2>knew what the big deal was. You know, you'd go

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 2>someplace to a party of a wedding, somebody serves you

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 2>a glass of wine.

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 1>You're like, I don't know, I'm sleeping. Yeah, exactly right.

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 2>And but when you go there and like you're experience

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 2>in Italy and they start to pair the wines with

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:55.760
<v Speaker 2>the food, and it was the most amazing experience.

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 3>I ever had.

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's what it is. It's an experience.

0:37:57.680 --> 0:37:57.799
<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the name of your company? Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>My company is called Ice and Alchemy.

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Ice in Alchemy.

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's a great name, Thank you. And what what

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 2>is it?

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 3>What does your company do? Exactly?

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:24.280
<v Speaker 4>So the company, it basically started off quietly in Los Angeles,

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 4>just helping places establish better menus and training for their

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:31.800
<v Speaker 4>their bar programs.

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 5>When I moved down to l ah you know, Las

0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 5>such a.

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:37.759
<v Speaker 4>Big city geographically, and so many restaurants and bars want

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:39.359
<v Speaker 4>to be doing it right, but they just didn't quite

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 4>know maybe how to how to get there. And I

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:44.760
<v Speaker 4>just happened to have you know, the right about experience

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 4>and ambition and all that kind of stuff that people

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 4>were taking notice of what I was doing and now

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 4>it's a full fledged bar consulting firm where I do

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:54.319
<v Speaker 4>predominantly southern California, but other states as well.

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 5>And you know, there's some international proposals out there right

0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 5>now too.

0:38:58.280 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Are there.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time that you go in a restaurant, you look

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 2>at the menu, and there are times that I'm super

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 2>impressed by it. By by the drinks that they have

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 2>on there. I can tell it's been you know, well

0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 2>thought out, and they're just like somebody throwing drinks on

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 2>the menu. And and so this is this is sort

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:15.839
<v Speaker 2>of the behind the scenes of what happens. Yeah, someone

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 2>comes in and they it's almost like a good director

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:22.760
<v Speaker 2>or somebody right coming in and and and implementing their.

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:26.359
<v Speaker 5>Vision hundred percent. Yeah, kind of kind of joining them

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:27.719
<v Speaker 5>from concept to reality.

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I guess, my, my, my, My last question in the

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:37.800
<v Speaker 1>mixology universe is when Josh goes to a restaurant, okay,

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 1>and he's ordering his food and they said, can I

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 1>get you a drink?

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what do you?

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 2>What do you that?

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:49.840
<v Speaker 4>I usually jump for a classic simple drink first, And

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:52.319
<v Speaker 4>what I mean by simple is like three ingredients. You're

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:55.360
<v Speaker 4>talking your old fashions, your Manhattan's or dackerie, you know

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 4>something like. And the reason is this, there's nothing to

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 4>hide behind, right Like, if you mess up one of

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:04.880
<v Speaker 4>those ratios or one of those ingredients, or choose the

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 4>wrong you know, spirit or whatever it is, it's going

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 4>to show right away.

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:09.839
<v Speaker 5>First.

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 4>If I ask for like a twelve ingredient tiki drink

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 4>and you kind of mess it up a little bit,

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 4>it's like it's sill gonna pass. So I get a

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 4>really simple drink and I, you know, just want to

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 4>make sure it's on point. And then from there, once

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 4>I sit that drink, that tells me, okay, this is

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 4>the place where I do get a cocktail, or my

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:27.160
<v Speaker 4>place where I get a glass of wine, you know,

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:29.320
<v Speaker 4>or maybe it's a place, maybe it's a shot in

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 4>a beer place.

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 5>Whatever it is.

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a defence mechanism. I see. It's a

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:36.960
<v Speaker 1>oh I see.

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting. So you're you're an old fashion man, Okay, yeah,

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 2>it's funny you say that. My wife lately has been

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:46.240
<v Speaker 2>ordering drinks since she's like, wow, they're.

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 3>Just too strong.

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:48.439
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean lately?

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Le's elaborated, you know, just the last couple of times

0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:56.840
<v Speaker 2>we've gone to a restaurant. They've made her drinks really

0:40:57.000 --> 0:41:00.120
<v Speaker 2>freaking strong. Interesting, And on one hand you're like, hey,

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 2>thank you, I'm.

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Grateful that you gave me a good because she's a

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 1>confident looking woman.

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:08.279
<v Speaker 2>I agree, I agree, but but yeah, they've been super So,

0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, to your what you were explaining about the

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 2>ratios being off, it almost just seems like they're just

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 2>like that, put a bunch of alcohol in it, she'll

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:18.440
<v Speaker 2>be she'll be happy with it.

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 1>What about you? You go to it, You go to

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:23.719
<v Speaker 1>a you go to a restaurant, Okay, thank you. What

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 1>do you want to you know, you look at the manual?

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:28.839
<v Speaker 3>Can I get you a drink? My wine? Guy? Man

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 3>first and foremost?

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think maybe maybe because, like you know, doing

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 2>these wine movies since I was like nineteen, and I've

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:36.800
<v Speaker 2>learned so much about it.

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>You're better than me, that's what you're saying. So you're

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 1>saying you're better than me. Oh that's great. So quickly

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 1>became one over here? No, No, not at all. Okay,

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 1>So I just became. I just came that.

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 2>I just became accustomed to it, you know, and the

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 2>pairing aspect. But I used to be like a good

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I used to be like a heavy cab guy.

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I was about to ask you what what? Yeah, we

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:06.759
<v Speaker 1>had that cab that night.

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:08.919
<v Speaker 2>At your you had that wonderful dinner at your house

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:13.239
<v Speaker 2>with that great chef by the way, Yeah, Carlos, Carlos, Yeah, man.

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:17.960
<v Speaker 2>But but lately I've been uh late lately, I've been

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 2>just chilling out.

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Period.

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 2>But if I do like a good pino noir man,

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:24.839
<v Speaker 2>just something lighter, you know, just good, just been going

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:25.439
<v Speaker 2>a little lighter.

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 3>What about you.

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm a martini guy. Yeah, yeah, And you know what

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I paid attention when I ordered martini because I order

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:37.440
<v Speaker 1>it a little dirty with three olives.

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Where a ginner or or vodka.

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 1>It depends, Yeah, it depends, like if I'm going to

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 1>do it doesn't. This doesn't what I'm about to say.

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have to make sense to anyone else, but

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 1>somehow it makes sense to me. If I'm going to

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 1>have a steak, yeah, I'll do a I'll do a vodka, Okay.

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 1>If I'm going to do a fish, I do a right.

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and and honestly, I know what I'm gonna

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 1>get when I go to these restaurants, Like I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a steak tonight you know, but I pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to a couple of things. You want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, they shake it, you know, but like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they don't. They don't overshake it when they're

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<v Speaker 1>just serving you the water. You're trying to have them

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<v Speaker 1>cool down liquor, you know, and like and it has

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<v Speaker 1>to be to the rim my biggest pipe with the

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<v Speaker 1>with the with the Martinez. When they bring you a Martine,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>On the glass size they get, they get cheap, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like like, yeah, a Martine is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>like a piece of glass, like a piece of ice,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. In my opinion, but I love to hear

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<v Speaker 1>judge's opinion about how Martinez is supposed to be served.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, the martini is supposed to like somebody

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<v Speaker 1>should be able to say the proportions of what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>using eyes versus you know, the vodka, yeah, versus the

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<v Speaker 1>dirty like whatever it's shaken. Yeah, the last drop she

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<v Speaker 1>stayed she ended at the rim. Yeah, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand what you're saying. It's a whole like it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's it's almost like a perception of value. Kind

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<v Speaker 4>of thing, you know, like when you're looking at it

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<v Speaker 4>and this halfway you know, below the line or below

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<v Speaker 4>the rim.

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<v Speaker 1>It's little, but a good martini is like that. The

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<v Speaker 1>bartender it's looking at you, it's talking to you. He's

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<v Speaker 1>shaking you martini and the last drop drops and when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at that glass is literally perfectly aligned to

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<v Speaker 1>the rim. Yeah, that's that.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel cheated if if it If it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I just not not cheated because the liquors in there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do feel like I know where I'm at now.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, So that's your that's your barometer.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like he has, like I'm gonna get something simple

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<v Speaker 1>and see what kind of plays I'm at and what

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<v Speaker 1>am I gonna trust? I know where I'm at. That interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know I got that a lot from believe

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<v Speaker 1>or not growing up and watching James Bond drink this

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<v Speaker 1>martiniz And I didn't understand the martini game until way

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<v Speaker 1>later in my life when I realized how special it

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<v Speaker 1>is to start your evening with the martini. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so it's so clean and also light that it

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<v Speaker 1>allows you to still enjoy your dinner. You know, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it's not gonna overpower anything. But yeah, so that

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<v Speaker 1>to me is it's a martini. But I'm a James

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<v Speaker 1>Bond guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I love how James Bond inspired that drink.

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<v Speaker 2>But then but then you actually liked it like you

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<v Speaker 2>had it here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, I mean Martine's I mean I would I

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<v Speaker 1>do it express a martini? Yeah, if I'm in yeah Cabo,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, and we've been at the Sun all

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<v Speaker 1>day and it's a six pm and we're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>to dinner, I stay up. Yeah, we do it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>express martini. But yeah, but yeah, martini is my thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the first thing you order.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. I love it. I could do a

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<v Speaker 3>good martini too.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's next.

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<v Speaker 5>I got that couch.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Josh, We're so grateful that you spend the time

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<v Speaker 1>today and I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 5>Guys, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's beautiful here. The craftsmanship that goes into it,

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<v Speaker 1>most importantly, you know, the work, the thought you know

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<v Speaker 1>that goes into the creations that you've made for so

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<v Speaker 1>many people, and you know, I think about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the environment that you have created for probably thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>people in your career, Josh that have had unforgettable, beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>celebrations not just about life, but special moments in their life.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, and I count my my personal beautiful memorable

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<v Speaker 1>moments of my life because you've been there for some

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<v Speaker 1>of the most beautiful moments of my life. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of these moments can only be commemorated when you're there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, yeah, so, so I'm really grateful to

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:56.359
<v Speaker 1>you and and and you know your team also because

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 1>they're my family too. Those those are my guys as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm excited to, you know, to see what's next.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, and I've seen Martini in your future.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, to everyone who joined our evening, our escapade or

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon wherever you're listening or watching from, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for being with us here your show, Those Amigos

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<v Speaker 1>with Wilmer Valderama, Freddie Rodriguez, and and Josh Succan. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see you guys on the next episode of Those Amigos.

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