WEBVTT - #395 Packers Unscripted: Talking combine

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted. We are on location

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<v Speaker 1>at the NFL Scouting Combine in downtown Indianapolis from Packers

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by Wes Hodkowitz

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<v Speaker 1>and Larry McCarron. Guys. Yesterday was sort of the unofficial

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<v Speaker 1>first day of the combine, even though the prospects aren't

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<v Speaker 1>around yet, but it was the day to hear from

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<v Speaker 1>the head coaches in general managers around the NFL. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the key things that we heard from Packers GM

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Gouda Kunst is really much the same what we

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<v Speaker 1>heard last year here at this time when he was

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<v Speaker 1>a first year GM, in that he dropped some hints

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<v Speaker 1>that the Packers are going to be pretty active in

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<v Speaker 1>free agency. He stuck to his word last year, no

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<v Speaker 1>reason not to believe him this year. Right. Well, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing about this that I really like. As far

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<v Speaker 1>as Brian Goodacuns is concerned, they want to be involved

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<v Speaker 1>in every conversation. That was something he said from his

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<v Speaker 1>first news conference as the new GM of the Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay Packers last year, and it's something that he lived

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<v Speaker 1>up to now. He said from day one. He's also

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<v Speaker 1>caution that by saying that doesn't mean we're gonna out

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<v Speaker 1>and sign everybody, doesn't mean we're gonna trade for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>But if Kyle Fuller's out there on a restrictive, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>free agent contract, and they feel like they can get them,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna offer them and you know, a deal, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go and try to maybe trade for a Khalil

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<v Speaker 1>mac But here's the biggest thing for them, it's still

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<v Speaker 1>draft in development. That's still the foundation of this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they can augment the roster with a few

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<v Speaker 1>veterans here and there, that makes sense. That's an avenue

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<v Speaker 1>that Goodakods wants to explore. Yeah, now, not every free

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<v Speaker 1>agent signing is going to be a home run. The

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<v Speaker 1>Packers were active last year, but Mohammed Wilkerson unfortunately gets

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<v Speaker 1>a season ending injury in in Week three. Larry we

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<v Speaker 1>saw Byron Bell, he started half the season at right guard.

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<v Speaker 1>He ends up going down with an injury. So nobody

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<v Speaker 1>bats a thousand in this free agency game. But Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Goodacunst is committed to using that as a tool to

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<v Speaker 1>help out this Packers roster where he feels it needs

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<v Speaker 1>to help guys I think what we're seeing is Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Gouda Kunst is just being Brian Gouda Kunst. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>Ted Thompson. He's got his own approach, He's not Ron Wolf.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got his own approach. And I don't think from

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<v Speaker 1>year to year and draft to draft and free agency

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<v Speaker 1>to free agency that's going to change dramatically. He wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be as you mentioned in the conversation on guys now,

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<v Speaker 1>not everybody is gonna make sense, not everybody is going

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<v Speaker 1>to fit financially, but he's going to explore those opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really think at the end of the football day,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just Brian being Brian. Yeah. And I think one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things about this too, when you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>him being in on every conversation, it's about being prepared.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about doing all of the legwork and all the

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<v Speaker 1>preparation in advance so that when things kind of get

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<v Speaker 1>fast and furious, so to speak, in terms of the

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<v Speaker 1>market and guys potentially signing and getting offers from elsewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>than the Packers are ready to pounce if it's the

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<v Speaker 1>right opportunity for them. Right. And the exciting thing about

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<v Speaker 1>this too is that Brian Goodens has been doing this

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<v Speaker 1>for a really long time. Two decades spent in the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers personnel department. So you have to imagine, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he had his eye on, you know, Jimmy Graham for years.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he had his eye on bringing back potentially

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<v Speaker 1>Trumont Williams and and seeing what he could do. And

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like Mohammed Wilkerson who made sense based on

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<v Speaker 1>his experience with Mike Petton. Now a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>are lining up. We're gonna see in about two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half weeks here how this new free agent class

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna look the Packers this year. The one drawback

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<v Speaker 1>to making those moves they don't have a compensatory pick,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also got three other picks that they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be able to work with to get him up to ten.

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<v Speaker 1>So finding that perfect balance and also finding guys that

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<v Speaker 1>could potentially come in here and find a role immediately

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be the big chess match. Because as

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<v Speaker 1>much as was made of Ted Thompson maybe not being

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that explored free agency, he had a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>high batting average when he did it. Go that route.

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<v Speaker 1>When you look at Julius Peppers, Ryan Pickett, Charles Woodson,

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<v Speaker 1>even a guy like you know, Eric Walden that came

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<v Speaker 1>in and made an impact. Those are the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>things that I'm looking forward to seeing with Brian Goodkins,

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<v Speaker 1>not only just being there every single year, but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>finding that one guy that could potentially put them over

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<v Speaker 1>the top. Mike, I want to make a point about

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned preparations. This is the NFL, and we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>cornered the market. The Green Bay Packers haven't cornered the

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<v Speaker 1>market on brains, taltled or hard work. Okay, so everybody's prepared.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing, the thing that separates you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>prepared to pull the trigger, like you're gonna have all

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<v Speaker 1>the studies done, but in your gut, you gotta have

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<v Speaker 1>the courage and the wherewithal to pull the trigger. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's that's more of a mindset than anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think last year, certainly Shoulder Brian good has

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<v Speaker 1>that ability, that mindset and a willingness to pull the trigger.

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<v Speaker 1>And one other thing I want to point out too,

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<v Speaker 1>It isn't just about those five unrestricted free agency signed

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<v Speaker 1>last year. It's also guy like Shot Brilon that gets

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<v Speaker 1>brought in during the season. Right question of camp, it

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<v Speaker 1>ends up being a guy that played a majority of

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<v Speaker 1>their snaps down the stretch once the you know, those

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<v Speaker 1>soft tissue injuries cleared up. So things like that as

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<v Speaker 1>well go a long way, because it isn't always just

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<v Speaker 1>about promoting the next guy from the practice squad. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to go out and find that veteran too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And it is about having the courage of your convictions

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<v Speaker 1>when when that opportunity is in front of you. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>Gudakun said in a luncheon that we had with with

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<v Speaker 1>several print reporters um over at Harry and Is. He's

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<v Speaker 1>down down the street here from the Convention Center. He

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<v Speaker 1>said he doesn't feel like he has to make any

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<v Speaker 1>salary cap saving type of moves in order to do

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<v Speaker 1>potentially what he wants to in free agency. He essentially

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<v Speaker 1>committed to Jimmy Graham for another year at tight End.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there has been some speculation out there that

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<v Speaker 1>that there would be a salary cap move involving Graham.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't sound like that's going to happen. Still in wait

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<v Speaker 1>and see mode. As far as Randall Cobb and Clay Matthews,

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<v Speaker 1>those guys with the expiring contracts, they're gonna let that

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<v Speaker 1>play out and just see what see whether they fit

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<v Speaker 1>financially and all that. Those things that Larry mentioned, whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not the Packers bring the veterans back, Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all the conversations you have to have between now

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<v Speaker 1>and then. I remember going back to two thousand fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>or two thousand fifteen, actually after the two thousand fourteen season,

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<v Speaker 1>right to the eleventh hour with Randall Cobb and in

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Bulaga not sure whether or not those guys are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be back. They end up signing them right on

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<v Speaker 1>the eve of the open free agency. That those guys

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<v Speaker 1>going to markets. Right between now and then, so many

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<v Speaker 1>things are going to happen. I think the biggest thing

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<v Speaker 1>for the Packers right now is trying to, as Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Good said, getting as much information as they can about

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<v Speaker 1>where this team is at, where the roster is at,

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<v Speaker 1>and finding the right players that fit that vision and beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of funny when it comes to decisions in football.

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<v Speaker 1>They get made when they have to be made, We

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<v Speaker 1>get taken up to that point, We'll do it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's often how it works in this business, for sure. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>another topic that we heard from both the general manager

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<v Speaker 1>and head coach. Matt Lafleur on Wednesday was with regards

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<v Speaker 1>to the running backs and wide receivers here with the Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>and at running back you have Aaron Jones and Jamal

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<v Speaker 1>will Yams a one to punch there and Wes. Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Lafleur talked a little bit about how he likes to

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<v Speaker 1>have not just the workhorse back, but that combination of

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<v Speaker 1>guys in the backfield because last year, his first year

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<v Speaker 1>as a play caller with the Tennessee Titans, that was

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<v Speaker 1>really really valuable to him to have two guys to

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<v Speaker 1>turn to. Yeah. Absolutely, And and the thing that's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to me is all these guys that they come out

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<v Speaker 1>of that Mike Shanahan coaching tree. His son Kyle was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that yesterday at the podium. But Mike always

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<v Speaker 1>preferred going with a single back for most part. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>they went through a lot of them over the years

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<v Speaker 1>in Denver and even Alfred Morris and Washington, but he

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<v Speaker 1>always liked feeding that one guy, the younger guys from

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<v Speaker 1>this with when you look at what Kyle's done now

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<v Speaker 1>and San Francisco, when he was a play caller in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>multiple guys. You look at Matt Lafleur, multiple guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he illustrated very well why he has that philosophy.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year in Tennessee, Dion Lewis got the ball a

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<v Speaker 1>lot the first half of the season, kind of starts

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<v Speaker 1>to wear down, then they feed Derrick Henry. It was

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<v Speaker 1>grand kind of parallel to what happened here in Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay where Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams both had their moments,

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<v Speaker 1>but neither guy was really featured for the entire sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>game schedule. I think you have to have that mentality.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important to have that mentality. The Packers

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<v Speaker 1>have isolated on those two guys as being the future

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<v Speaker 1>that position and Matt Flor's plans for both of them. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's kind of interesting is when Matt Lafleur

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<v Speaker 1>talks about the Packers personnel, you get a fresh perspective

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<v Speaker 1>and you get more of an appreciation for what is here.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know this is kind of broadening our topic

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<v Speaker 1>just a bit, but Matt Lafleur, Okay, he comes in

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<v Speaker 1>first time head coach and and sees sees what's in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the stable here? What do we got to

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<v Speaker 1>work with and and he mentioned this as the lunch

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<v Speaker 1>was going on. We've got perhaps the best quarterback ever

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<v Speaker 1>to play the game. That's nice place to start if

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<v Speaker 1>you're coming in first, nice place to start. Hey, what

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<v Speaker 1>are the other things you really need? Offensively? What are

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<v Speaker 1>the key pieces of that puzzle? Well, left backle we've

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<v Speaker 1>got maybe the best in the business, and David Baktiar,

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<v Speaker 1>if not the best, one of the best, certainly, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean no question about it. And then another thing people

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<v Speaker 1>covet around the National Football League, a true bona fide

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<v Speaker 1>number one wide receiver. So those are three critical pieces

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<v Speaker 1>to the offensive puzzle that are sitting in Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>when Matt Lafore walks in the door. Now, those are

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<v Speaker 1>really attractive commodities to build your offense around. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at those wide receivers that are behind

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<v Speaker 1>Davante Adams, a lot of excitement, a lot of anticipation

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<v Speaker 1>for what may happen in year two with the three

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<v Speaker 1>wide receivers that the Packers added in the draft. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're studying here last year in Indie Marquis Velde, Scantling,

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<v Speaker 1>eq St Brown, Jamond Moore. Now we saw Velde Scantling

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<v Speaker 1>and st Brown take a little bit of a step

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<v Speaker 1>forward in their rookie seasons. They both made their share

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<v Speaker 1>a big play is Valdes Scantling had the most catches

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<v Speaker 1>and yards of the bunch. But uh yeah, this transition

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<v Speaker 1>to Matt Lafleur's offense, now we'll see what happens in

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<v Speaker 1>that regard. But these guys are pros now, they've been

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<v Speaker 1>through it. There are some expectations here that their game

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna rise to another level. Yeah, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>chance too, I mean that they're gonna have to get

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<v Speaker 1>pushed here because you have Geronio also potentially coming back,

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<v Speaker 1>though he is a restricted free agent. The Packers have

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<v Speaker 1>drafted twelve different receivers in the last six years, so

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's a chance that you know they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and find another one in the draft too.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be able to keep up with the

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<v Speaker 1>pace of play in the NFL. The exciting thing about

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<v Speaker 1>it the Packers drafted for size and speed last year

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<v Speaker 1>with those three guys. Valdes Scantling showed it immediately. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a big play target. He's a guy that could potentially

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<v Speaker 1>really challenge and stress a secondary with what he can

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<v Speaker 1>do over the top. And then even Econemius st. Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing that impressed me about him showed a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of versatility in terms of being able to play the

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<v Speaker 1>boundary and also the slot during some of the times

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<v Speaker 1>when the Packers were struggling with injuries in there. So

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<v Speaker 1>those two guys, I think particular, you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>excited about what their upside could be in this offense.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's kind of interesting. Towards the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the last season, Marquis Velda scantling MVS alphabet soup, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but m V e q NVS. But anyway, uh NVS says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's looking forward and there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a new head coach and all that's becoming clear, and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, you know what's gonna be cool next year

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<v Speaker 1>is everybody's a rookie. Everybody's learning a new system instead

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<v Speaker 1>of us. You know, you kind of stick out like

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<v Speaker 1>a sore thumb when you got a bunch of veterans

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<v Speaker 1>in the room, you know, with Randall Cobb and DeVante

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<v Speaker 1>Adams and so forth, and you're the rookies and you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to learn and everything and everybody else knows it.

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<v Speaker 1>But now everybody you know, looking at page one again,

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<v Speaker 1>we're starting over to some extent. Again, you can't replace experience,

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<v Speaker 1>and those experienced guys do always have a leg up

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<v Speaker 1>until you get three or four years in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's a little different approach for the

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<v Speaker 1>young fellas we're talking about. Yeah, I would agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you look at the running backs and wide

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<v Speaker 1>receivers on the Packers roster, as excited as they are

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<v Speaker 1>about them, certainly no guarantee or no message that the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers are just standing pad at those positions. We could

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<v Speaker 1>see the Packers aventually add at both of those spots

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<v Speaker 1>here in the draft. Brian Goodakoot's going into this draft

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<v Speaker 1>with ten picks. Yeah, absolutely, And I mean you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the running back position, I think you're pretty well

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<v Speaker 1>set there with what you do have with Aaron Jones

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<v Speaker 1>and Nelson Jamal Williams. But last year proved with Capri

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<v Speaker 1>Bibs coming in, you sometimes need that third option as

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<v Speaker 1>well down the down the line, So that could be

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<v Speaker 1>an area that depending on if they find a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that could fit well into the system. And La Fleur

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that the hits those running backs taken and

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<v Speaker 1>how they can wear down. It's it's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things that sometimes even just two might not be enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And as far as receiver, the big question slot, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you do need a prototypical slot, particularly in

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<v Speaker 1>this offense. Randall Cobb is an unrestricted free agent. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see how that plays out. They have guys that can

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Davante Adams did it, but I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>still think you need to have a guy that's more

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<v Speaker 1>fit for that spot on a down end and down

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<v Speaker 1>out basis. To some extent, right now, the Packer wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver corps is real heavy in the big guy type receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>the type of receiver you can't bang around, you can't muscle,

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<v Speaker 1>generally speaking, bigger than the corners they play again, so

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<v Speaker 1>like they've got a lot of that body type right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be interesting to see if they expand what's in

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<v Speaker 1>the toolbox that receiver as a draft and free agency

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<v Speaker 1>going Yeah, and when you look at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>this draft, the Packers going into it with a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity here, however you want to look at it. The

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<v Speaker 1>first three picks for Brian Goudacunster in the top forty

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<v Speaker 1>four of this draft because of that trade with the

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans Saints in the draft last year to get

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<v Speaker 1>the extra first rounder, and then six of the first

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<v Speaker 1>ten picks are in the first four rounds. And you

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<v Speaker 1>could see yesterday West when we were talking to Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Goudacunst at lunch, how excited he is about the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>and how important this draft really could be for the

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<v Speaker 1>future of the Packers. Yeah, it's a kid walk into

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<v Speaker 1>a candy store and his mom telling him he can

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<v Speaker 1>have whatever he wants. I mean, it's the situation every

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<v Speaker 1>general manager in the league really, you know, Craves And

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that's interesting about the two picks. I ran

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<v Speaker 1>the old Jimmy Johnson draft value chart on it. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean those two picks, you you bundle them up together

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<v Speaker 1>that even get you to number four based on the

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<v Speaker 1>value of it. So, I mean there's some maneuverability. They're

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<v Speaker 1>involved as well in terms of what they want to

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<v Speaker 1>do if there's a guy that they like, if they

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel like it's last year's draft where you can

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<v Speaker 1>move back from fourteen and still have two or three

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<v Speaker 1>guys that you really, you know, covet five or six

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<v Speaker 1>picks down the line, you know, maybe go up and

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<v Speaker 1>find someone. So this is the earliest they've picked since

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand nine. I can't even recall the last time

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<v Speaker 1>they had two first round picks going into a draft,

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<v Speaker 1>let alone being able to, you know, kind of put

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<v Speaker 1>the board up and start to play around with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ron Wolfe had that in his first draft and got rich.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, yeah, he got a quarterback named Brett Farve

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<v Speaker 1>with one of those first round picks. I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Brian yesterday during an interview we're doing for another program,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know how you guys feel about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but last year at the draft when he picked up

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<v Speaker 1>that extra number one and still drafted Gyro Alexander, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean last year when he when he did it, when

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<v Speaker 1>he made the move, it was cool. But it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of done the round now that it's us here and

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<v Speaker 1>he's got two number one, whether he uses them, deals him,

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<v Speaker 1>what have you? Going into the draft with that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of ammunition and ammunition now it is really it is

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<v Speaker 1>smoking cool. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the Packers sitting at number

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<v Speaker 1>twelve with their first pick, as West mentioned, the highest

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<v Speaker 1>slot they've had since two thousand nine, which was when

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<v Speaker 1>they took b J Rogie at number nine overall. Gudakos

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<v Speaker 1>was asked about, well, will you potentially trade back again

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<v Speaker 1>like last year, the opportunity at number twelve could be

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<v Speaker 1>a really, really big time player. He suggested it would

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<v Speaker 1>take maybe something really significant in order to move back,

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<v Speaker 1>which maybe means he'd trade and pick up another first

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<v Speaker 1>rounder next year. I mean, who knows, right right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you always have that possibility out there. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest thing for the Packers right now, whether it's one,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's to whatever ends up shaking out, they have

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<v Speaker 1>to find playmakers. They have to find difference makers, and

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<v Speaker 1>this looks to be a draft based on what we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen so far through the end of February that could

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Yeah, alright, Well, with that, we will call

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<v Speaker 1>it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. We

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<v Speaker 1>will be back with a couple more shows here from

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<v Speaker 1>the scouting Combine in Indianapolis. Thanks for tuning in everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>We will see you next time. M