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Speaker 1: on the Monday after the Giants fall to the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Vikings at home. They lose that game to ten Carl,

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Speaker 1: this was a very good team the Giants were playing

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Speaker 1: this week in the Vikings. When you're a quarterback like

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and the Giants defense, which I struggle of

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Speaker 1: times this year, what's the difference when you're going up

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Speaker 1: against a well coached team like the Minnesota Vikings. Well,

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Speaker 1: we know right away, and I think this Giant team

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Speaker 1: understands now that when you're playing an elite level team,

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Speaker 1: Playoff caliber team, they do their homework and they apply

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Speaker 1: what they've learned in the game. So whatever your weaknesses are,

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Speaker 1: you can expect a team like the Minnesota Vikings to

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Speaker 1: test whether or not you've made the necessary corrections. You

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Speaker 1: also learned in playing a team like the Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 1: the margin for era is almost zero. So when you

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Speaker 1: have your opportunities, you've got to take them. Um. So

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Speaker 1: now we talk about the talent, right, Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: Giants depleted that linebacker right going against Dalvin Cook. They

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Speaker 1: were down to David Mayo, Nate Stupar and Josiah However, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you're going Dalvin Cook, no surprise, one of the

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Speaker 1: best in the league. Most people don't know it outside

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Speaker 1: of the industry insiders. And I consider every team in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League an industry insiders. So they know

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Speaker 1: coming in, this guy's got great balance, great speed, You

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Speaker 1: got a gang tackling. You gotta get him on the ground.

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Speaker 1: Game starts out early, They get him to the ground,

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Speaker 1: have some success on a couple of series, and then

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Speaker 1: next thing you know, they're starting to get gashed. Um.

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Speaker 1: The reason they get gashed is because is little play

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Speaker 1: or the receivers to get off the field, so called

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Speaker 1: by the way, just real quickly. Giants allowed nine rushes

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Speaker 1: of ten yards, or more more than any other team

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Speaker 1: this week. Stat number two. These are both from Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Focus. Sixteen missed tackles by the Giants this week,

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Speaker 1: also most among NFL teams in Week five so you've

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Speaker 1: this is not making an excuse, but it's hard to

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Speaker 1: standpoint when you know people's first thing is I'll get

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Speaker 1: they call a play, and if you got a guy

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Speaker 1: put you in the right defense and you did not

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Speaker 1: got to take responsibility. I think the adjustments to the

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Speaker 1: when they needed to play, they just ran a two

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Speaker 1: Because everybody was moving up towards the Lion scrimmin and

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Speaker 1: everyone knew the Vikings were the second run heaviest team

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Speaker 1: on play action passing in this game, Carl Cousins eight

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