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Speaker 1: It's Lauren Rosa and this is the Latest with Lauren

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Speaker 1: de Rosa. This is your daily dig on all things

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Speaker 1: Now today, hopping right on into the latest because I

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Speaker 1: got some te tails for y'all. Okay, so it's like details,

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Speaker 1: but it's given the tea because I'm about to really

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Speaker 1: take y'all on into this story. So today there was

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Speaker 1: a story that broke. There were some documents that were filed. Giselle,

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Speaker 1: Brian and Robin Dixon of the Reasonably Shady podcast.

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Speaker 2: You guys know they.

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Speaker 1: Are our podcast cousins, which means they are also a

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Speaker 1: podcast here on the Black Effect Network, are being accused

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Speaker 1: of harassment by Eminem.

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Speaker 2: By rapper Eminem, y'all are probably like, wait, what for.

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Speaker 1: Anybody who doesn't know the back of the story hearing

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Speaker 1: Eminem and real housewives of any sort in the same sentences,

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Speaker 1: like how did we even get here? Don't worry, y'all,

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Speaker 1: I got you, So listen Giselle Bryant and Robin Dixon

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Speaker 1: created their podcasts some years ago. They created their podcast

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Speaker 1: back in February. I'm sorry, they created their podcast back

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Speaker 1: in May of twenty twenty one when they created the

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Speaker 1: podcast Resonably Shady, And if you guys watched their show,

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Speaker 1: you understand that. Of course, the title of the podcast

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Speaker 1: formerly Real hos Wives of Atlanta because Robin is alum

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Speaker 1: of Giselle is still actively on the show. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if fits never in a million years when

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Speaker 1: I first saw that they launched this podcast, what I

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Speaker 1: think that Eminem would be like, hold on wait, what

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Speaker 1: uh uh? That shady that I saw mine? But it happened,

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Speaker 1: and I remember when this story broke, because what happened

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Speaker 1: was so they launched a podcast in May of twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one. They then went on to file a trademark

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Speaker 1: application for the name reasonably Shady in February, following the

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Speaker 1: and file this trademark Eminem opposed the trademark application in

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Speaker 1: February of twenty twenty three, and when he opposed it,

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Speaker 1: you know, people being confused, and the consumers would be confused.

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Speaker 2: And he says.

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Speaker 1: Consumers who have known him by Slim, shady or Shady

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Speaker 1: So he's arguing that he's pushing back right now that

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Speaker 1: following month after So the month after March janiu Ver

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Speaker 1: likelihood of confusion between Eminem's trademarks and their reasonably Shady

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Speaker 1: the background on how we got here. Now, there's been

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Speaker 2: I mean, their podcast makes headlines.

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Speaker 1: We talked about them literally this week in a previous

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Speaker 1: And he also said, can we make sure that this is,

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Speaker 2: This is Eminem girl. Okay, y'all better be lucky.

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Speaker 1: We even given y'all the time we give y'all take,

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Speaker 1: You know. She was a little bit apprehensive at first

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Speaker 1: But I asked her she would speak to you guys

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Speaker 1: of harassment. So I'm like, who better to speak than

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Speaker 2: So let's give Giselle a call. She knows we're calling.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Hi, Hi, Okay, so we're taping, so you're on

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Speaker 1: I called them the Lowriders, and they're gonna be so excited.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, so I just gave them some background on

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Speaker 1: everything that has been happening to catch them up. You know,

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Speaker 1: and you know, talking about this would confuse the audience

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: So thatstory his attorneys deposed Ropping and I separately, right,

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Speaker 4: And in doing that, they asked for the day, the

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Speaker 4: we finished. But they asked for the complete day, and

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Speaker 2: That's just not sufficient. So we're not harassing the man.

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Speaker 3: We're just asking for what we were asked to do,

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Speaker 5: So he finally came up with I think a day

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Speaker 2: And my attorney.

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Speaker 3: Rightly so said, look, I don't work after hours, so no,

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Speaker 2: Deposed, so we're not harassing him. We would just like

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Speaker 3: It just so happened that his attorneys didn't have any

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Speaker 2: Like there's nothing more to discuss.

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Speaker 3: Is he going to have to take a million bathroom breaks?

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Speaker 1: as far as he's busy, if this is the time

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Speaker 1: you can get him, we suggest that you do it.

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Speaker 1: not fair. How does like, so, what is the Patent

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Speaker 1: and Trademark Office saying to you guys after you guys

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Speaker 1: of course are opposing all of these things and are

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Speaker 1: kind of scene, you know, how this is playing out

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Speaker 1: where the availability you know from what you're saying, isn't

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Speaker 1: being made the same way, like have you heard from

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Speaker 3: he's so busy, Lauren.

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Speaker 2: I have seven jobs.

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Speaker 3: I'm busy too, Sorry, but I cleared my schedule, and

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Speaker 3: he filed the petition.

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Speaker 2: We were minding our business.

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Speaker 3: He is coming up against us, so we think that

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Speaker 2: Against our patent, our trademark, you would find the time

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Speaker 1: There at no point did he like him or his manager,

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Speaker 1: you know, Rosenberg, Like they never just reached out and said,

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Speaker 3: I not kind of kind of yes, we've been offered

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Speaker 2: Reasonable, okay, Monetary is okay. I My position is.

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Speaker 3: We've gone this far. This is I don't know, we

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Speaker 1: When you guys were offered, like when they tried to

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Speaker 3: A they want to say that I don't want to

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Speaker 2: I wasn't happy and it wasn't medium.

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Speaker 1: Are you able to tell us what that hit? I'm

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Speaker 1: wasn't happy and it wasn't medium. Are you wouldn't give

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: Are you able to.

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Speaker 1: Give us anything on like what it was that they

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Speaker 3: I don't think legally I can say that. Okay, so,

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Speaker 1: And then my final question is the eminem's attorney gave

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Speaker 2: Any response to that statement.

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Speaker 3: Totally, that's a stretch and if if it is designed

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Speaker 2: So you can't ask me and Robin, two.

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Speaker 3: Very busy black women to do something that Eminem can

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Speaker 2: Got it? Well, thank you?

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Speaker 1: And I mean we love reasonably Shady. So I hope

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Speaker 3: I don't know anyone that listens to the podcast that

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Speaker 3: It's like no one thinks about eminem, no one thinks

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Speaker 2: So you know, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy your Thanksgiving. I know you're probably in the kitchen

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Speaker 2: getting ready to cook. I'm out to head on home.

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Speaker 1: And start to do the same myself. I appreciate you

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you, all.

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Speaker 1: Righty Brye, Well, guys, you have it right here. I

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Speaker 2: It is my job, my due diligence, and I'm honestly.

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Speaker 1: Starting to believe this is my calling to being these

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Speaker 1: people's business. Okay, to bring you updates first foremost, but

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Speaker 2: Is going on lately because this is the latest. I'll

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Speaker 2: catch you guys in my next episode. Enjoy your Thanksgiving