WEBVTT - WrestleCon weekend preview w/ The Franchise Shane Douglas & WWE streams what? 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:01.120 H h. 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:17.880 H h. 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.360 Yeah, I'm gonna watch WrestleMania if. Like I said, after 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:37.680 I come home. I like to watch the pay per views, 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:40.760 even if I don't know what the angles are. I 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:45.360 just I find them entertaining. And wrestle Mania, you know, 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:49.800 the biggest stage of maw whatever. I I like it. 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:53.640 So I'm just curious to see what they do with Paul. 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:58.440 And I know it's gonna be something good because like 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:01.120 you said, we know he's got his his hand in 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:05.440 the creative pot and he has probably final say and 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.280 I think it's gonna be something really great. But I 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:12.440 want him to do something, to get involved. I don't 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:13.880 just want to stand there. 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:17.880 Just analyzing. Is just again off of what we've looked 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:21.640 at here and what we're talking about. I told you 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:23.520 a few minutes before even looking at it, the stuff 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.640 that my kids were telling me that you know, they've 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:28.440 gotten back into watching because of the connection back to 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:33.440 their guys and whatnot, because it's the biggest show of 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.880 the year, and every year they do well with WrestleMania, 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:41.040 because like Moose doesn't watch the show at all, but 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:44.400 loves watching WrestleMania because it's like the super Bowl, right, 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:47.120 and he's watches since he's a kid, So you're gonna 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:51.120 have a lot of eyeballs on WRESTLEMANI that don't week 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.640 to week watch the programming. So the more they can 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.440 throw in there to come out of WrestleMania with the 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:01.040 ideas all still dangling instead of everything being exclamation point 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.720 and onto the next raw, the more question marks that 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:06.760 you can leave with those swerves and which way is 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.360 it going to go? And what's going to happen tomorrow 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:13.040 after what we saw do today and yesterday. I think 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:16.760 it's a this is a good booking move, it really is. 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:20.119 And how long got a lightning bulk going to strike? 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:22.440 Three hundred seconds? I haven't said that about WWE and 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:26.320 a long damn time. But they have a chance to 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:32.360 rebrand themselves. Rebrands not the right word, to re reconfigure 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:37.160 how they're doing what they're doing. And uh, you know 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:40.680 that's keeping into what I hear fans saying to me 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:45.600 when when they mentioned WW is it's gotten better. It's 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.639 a lot better than it was. And so that WrestleMania 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:52.440 obviously is the big, you know, big cap off of 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.760 all the storylines leadings now and the introduction. 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.400 Of the storylines we're going to use going forward. 0:02:57.880 --> 0:02:59.920 So with all the things that we're seeing this just 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.880 and this quick talk about this one segment, I think 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:04.639 they have a lot to work with there. It's gonna 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:05.840 be interesting to see where they go with it. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.760 Yeah, you know this is I'm sorry you can no. 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:11.640 I was just gonna say, really quickly, if if you 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.480 want to see it live, there's a seat near the 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.440 stage for twenty two grand that you can purpose. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:19.799 We don't get any discount from one. 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:22.480 Go ahead, Chad. 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:25.440 So this is actually it's funny. I was gonna see 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:26.280 what you thought about this. 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:29.240 So looking at that picture right, I don't know how 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.040 much you've been able to watch, you know, over the 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:35.080 last couple of months, but the post okay, but still 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.240 okay seeing that picture right, I mean, I'll even bring 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.000 it up just so you can have that idea of 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:42.400 what the ambiance of like a show might be. The 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:46.520 Netflix era, you know, kind of the more UFC feel, 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:51.960 celebrities like crazy sponsors on the ring, a prime bottle 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:55.800 being at ringside. This is all the post Vince era 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:01.720 WWE does looking at this product, you know, and just 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:07.600 seeing this but still hearing botched promos you know, elements 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.840 of reality coming in because of heat between two people. 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:15.720 You know, does this still seem like a genuine wrestling 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.880 product to you or does this seem like maybe this 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.159 is still where it would have gone had the old 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:23.280 regime been in charge. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:25.680 Not where it would have gone. 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:31.360 You know, there's again things that I'm hearing you're saying 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.640 that they're not allowed to call it, you know, the 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.520 world title and they can use the word wrestling again, 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.000 and things like that, things that have been subsanitized out. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:44.520 Understand though that moving forward with what's the parent companies 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:48.400 and endeavor UFC, there's going to be elements of that 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:52.839 bleeding into it because they own it now. I don't 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:54.640 think that this is going to get it back to 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.320 wrestling that our industry is a desperate need of doing, 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:02.240 because quite frankly, UFC and and and that whole company 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:03.320 is not wrestling. 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:04.040 Uh. 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.080 But I think it would be a mistake for them 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:09.719 not to move more towards the wrestling. Uh. 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.680 You know, the fact that they're getting Like my kids 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:17.440 both they watch every UFC fight, They break it down. 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:19.600 That's all they talk about all week long, back and 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.839 forth as they're you know, going back getting ready to 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:25.080 watch it and everything. So you already have my kids 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.200 on that side of the equation, on the UFC you know, 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:34.159 MME or mm A side of things. Uh, can you 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:37.320 get them back? I doubt you'll get them back because 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:41.720 it's feeling more like UFC and less like old w 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:43.400 w F or WWE. 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.080 I think it's it's. 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.520 Quite necessary for them to make sure they get it 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.120 back to you know, the joke we always said, you know, 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.760 the four w's when wrestling was wrestling. To get it 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.000 back to that, I would imagine that all of those 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:03.800 guys that that are you know UFC you don't have been. 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.480 What we're finding out now is that most of them 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:10.600 were huge wrestling fans. They really enjoyed what wrestling was 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:13.599 back then. So it's my hope that they start to 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:17.599 push it back more that direction, as opposed to making 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:23.000 this look like UFC light or UFC part due the 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:26.520 French were there for any you see that multi lingual. 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:33.600 But that's where the again I'm giving this advice ALP 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.640 for free, that's where the money is because of the 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.000 forty eight to fifty million fans that have walked away 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:44.360 from Spot Monkey Stuff and current iterations of what they 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:48.480 think wrestling has become. It's pretty crazy when you put 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.159 it into perspective and think that people were watching us 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:56.400 and wrestlers like Flair and Hogan and arn Anderson and 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.280 Jake Robertson, all the all the great names that we've 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.520 we've always talked about back then, and yet in this 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:07.000 court iteration, we've seen a huge ninety ninety five percent 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:10.520 drop off from that fan base. So I would suggest 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:15.120 that going in the route of UFC is less necessary 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.880 because you've already got those kids for that. What's going 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.160 to bring back those fans that have walked away from 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:24.320 our business and we saw come back like on the 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:28.160 inauguration we talked about on the Triple Threat podcast. You know, 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.480 the one point four million that AW had that first week, 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:36.200 dropped fifty percent in week two and stayed there for 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.720 the better part of the last four years. Because they 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.720 promised the fans to get it back to wrestling. Those 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:45.840 fans tuned in week one and then left. Somebody has 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:47.920 got to reach out to those forty eight million fans 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.480 that have walked away and bring them back, and I 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.080 don't think UFC is the way to do it, because 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:58.360 they've already got them watching that so the four w's 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:01.040 when wrestling was wrestling. Get it back to that and 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:04.720 bring back here. Here's a real crazy clue. Those forty 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:08.760 eight million fans, their money is as green as everybody else's, 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:12.880 and they've walked away from it and said, cyanara oh man, 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:14.000 another language. 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:18.360 I'm on fue, I'll give you this. I'll give you 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:18.720 this though. 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:24.240 Okay, on YouTube, this new ownership, this new you know, 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:31.440 multimedia conglomerate. They've created the WWE Vault, unearthing behind the 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.320 scenes clips, house show footage. 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.199 It's never been released outtakes. 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:42.440 Uh, just unbelievable things that that the somebody like me 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:47.040 who's jaded and doesn't watch anything anymore, I'm glued to 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:51.480 this channel because they're bringing out stuff that you're sitting there. 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:56.680 Going like, what like holy nikes. So one point seventy one. 0:08:56.679 --> 0:09:00.920 Million subscribers, Well, they said, well, yes, what we're gonna do. 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.840 We're gonna just basically put every YouTube channel that uploads 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.719 wrestling content out of business because now we're going to 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:13.840 launch the WCW YouTube channel. Okay, two hundred and twenty 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.840 six thousand subscribers, So I add those two, there's two 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:19.600 million of your forty eight million back. 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:20.120 Yeah. 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:23.480 Yeah, and the channels it's not like they've been around. 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.800 These are new. These are new channels and got all 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:27.800 those subscribers. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:31.080 Yeah, and they're stilling live footage twenty four to seven. 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:33.880 Right, and they'll grow that. You know, those fans will 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.880 come back and watch it. Connor has started, just as 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:40.400 a sidebar to this, Neither of my kids were ever 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:45.000 shown ECW, you know when they were younger. I want 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.920 them seeing dad talk like that and doing all those 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.920 types of things. But he's gone back to the beginning 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.240 and wants to watch it sequentially because he's grown up 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:59.080 hearing about this this uh mythical company that was called ECW. 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.280 So he's gone way back to the beginning and he's 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.719 going to start watching it and pull it forward so 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:05.480 he gets it as the fans got it in the 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:10.000 first run. That's I think the same thing we're talking 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:14.120 about here with the WCW channel and the unearthing of 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:17.800 the other in the other footage stuff. It's brilliant and 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.280 that is again all the stuff that I said prior 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:24.000 to that is proof that they're they're going in that direction. 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:26.640 It seems to be the data. What's pretty sure a 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:33.040 businessman and it didn't take a rocket scientist. Well, I 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.320 don't know, maybe it did because of how many people 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.480 we've seen try these new iterations of wrestling in the 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.240 last twenty some years, all of them failing pretty much. 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:45.280 So the fact that they own all that footage and 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:49.800 can access it and put it out there. I've talked 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.720 about this in all my interviews in the last twenty years. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:57.680 The strongest opiate on the planet is nostalgia and you 0:10:57.840 --> 0:10:59.800 get those fans to go back and see and what 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.880 stuff that they are now seeing like they're behind the 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.360 scenes footage of I'm a huge mark when I watch 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.080 a movie. I love the bonus stuff that you get 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.960 how the movie was made, the stuff that happened backstage. 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.400 So I'm gonna make a prediction they're gonna pull those 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.880 fans back. They're gonna starting back, and once they get 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.600 in there, it's gonna be critical that the current product 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:23.360 reflect what they've watched coming up to that. And if 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:25.800 they do that, we've got a new ballgame. 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.600 Watch this. I'm going live on their channel. Look what 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:29.160 they've got on? 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:30.400 Wow? 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:34.480 Yeah, Cogan Ultimate Warrior. I'm going to the WCW channel. 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.000 You ready, look at that. 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:42.920 Yeah, here's a question for you guys. Do you feel 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:50.400 like the crowds dipped out when they did not become 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:56.160 like when they became like the PG error Because like today, 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:00.840 something came across on my Acts of Videos. I watched it. 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.319 And when you're done watching a video, another one will 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:06.400 automatically pop up without you clicking on it. It was 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:11.280 a video from ww It had to have been WWD, 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:15.920 maybe it was still F but DDP was the focus. 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:21.520 It was a woman and she was clearly reading a 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.920 cue card and they made that very clear because she 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:30.880 kept going, I hate myself when I looked in the mirror. Okay, www. 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.959 So she's reading it and that's the gimmick, right, she says, 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:40.120 But then I met DDP, and now I think I 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.400 am the best person out there. Blah blah blah. And 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:47.120 she literally bends over and she's got shorts on, so 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.840 her head is between her legs, and then he pops 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.720 up right near her ant's cheek and he goes, it's me, 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:58.559 it's me. It seems the crow's going nuts because here's 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:02.160 this woman with her ant showing her cheeks hanging out, 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:06.200 and then he's like right there cutting this like ridiculous promo, 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:11.920 And I'm thinking to myself, I remember all of the 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.240 I'm not talking about the dumb shit with the hand 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.800 birth in the hand and the corpse and all that stuff. 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:22.000 But like when they were like more provocative, more sexy, 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:27.000 I think that drew, especially like the low like you know, 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:31.160 the seventeen to twenty four demographic or whatever who initially 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.600 will tell us these days it's not cool anymore to 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:38.640 watch wrestling, But back then they loved it. So could 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:43.559 there be a shift where they start to bring slowly 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:47.000 but surely they start to bring some of that back 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:47.800 into the mix. 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:50.160 Let me just go I'll let Shange take the floor, 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.160 But I just want to say this. Those kids from 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:56.760 the PG era are watching John Cena retire now. Yeah, right, 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:01.880 that's that's the generation that watched Hulk Hogan come back, right, 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.120 but only two thousands. But that's the kids that are 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:08.720 watching We left when Sina was champed. 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:12.320 Those kids from the PG era are watching Sena leave now. 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:15.680 So yeah, everybody left during that PG era except for 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:19.000 the people who are now watching Sena in his retirement run. 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.120 So there's my point. If you make it a little 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.720 more on the entertainment side, and I know, their world 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:29.160 wrestling entertainment, they go back to maybe I don't know, 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:33.440 a little more seductive with the females getting involved in 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:37.880 the storylines a little more. Does that bring that demographic 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.080 back and the viewership go up. 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:43.440 Well, as long as they know the first too far 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:48.280 back down towards sports entertainment, right, That's it's to me 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.640 in my equation, and what I've watched for the last 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:56.400 decades is that the company that was seen as the 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.760 company of Bruno San Martino and Bob Backland and dominict 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:03.960 to Do and all those great wrestlers suddenly started morphing 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:09.080 into like Hollywood cartoon stuff. Then WCW picked up that slack, 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.880 so you had two clear choices. You had the entertainment side, 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:16.880 cartoon side, and you had the wrestling side. And those 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:21.440 both of those companies drew considerable numbers to a certain point. 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.280 And then when I don't think it's happened state So 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:30.680 when WCW started mimicking WWF, WWE and the sports entertainment, 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:35.080 that's when we started seeing those fans sort of pop out. 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.840 And you know, for the longest time, I don't know 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:40.840 if it's still I don't doug into the I don't 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.400 watch House of I'm digging to the demographics much. But 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.760 as of like two or three years ago, the number 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:51.880 one age demographic in the WWF's panoply of current casual 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:56.440 and lapsed fans was fifty five and older. So they 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.080 had lost the kids and they had lost the younger generation. 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:01.920 I think what's happened over the last several years up 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:06.280 until recent is that the business had always been able 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.680 to when a fan out grew wrestling, which is a 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.040 new thing that we had seen in the last eight seven, eight, nine, 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.880 ten years, actual growing out of wrestling and moving on 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:23.160 to UFC, cars, girls, guys, whatever. Like a revolving door. 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.560 A fam would leave and they were pretty much able 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.000 to replace that fan with another five or six year 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.600 old coming in. So we weren't seeing a growth in 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.160 the business. We saw leveling off and then dropping the 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:37.680 forty eight to fifty million fans and now getting them back. 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.480 What would be the kiss of death would be to 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.680 try to straddle that fence, play the cartoon to the 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.160 younger kids, and try to give some of the other 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:50.600 older stuff, you know, I shouldn't say older, more relevant 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:54.960 wrestling stuff to the older fans, and you won't gain 0:16:55.000 --> 0:17:02.360 either side those kids that stopped coming in when we 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:05.600 saw that the numbers started to go like this. What 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.440 those kids They didn't come in or not come in 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:12.160 because it was a cartoon or it was wrestling. They 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.480 came in because there was something hip and cool on 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:17.600 there that their friends were watching, talking about and brought 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:23.159 to them. So straddling those two fences would be the 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.679 kiss of death because it would gardener neither side. I 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:30.480 think it's more hopefully that they're going to these w 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:35.840 CW old footage, n w A old footage, u WF footage, 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:40.160 and old ww F footage to continue bringing those fans back, 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:44.320 and then at the same time, hopefully with like what 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.800 we just saw with the build up to the Roman 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:51.040 reigns and seth rawlins and cmpunk and Paul haman angle 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:54.320 that that goes further in the direction of what it 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.000 is we all used to do. And once you bring 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.920 those fans back, the kids behind that you'd think would 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.760 up into the entertainment stuff of the cartoon stuff, I 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:04.800 think will come into it. It's always been my belief 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.840 that if you shoot above the heads, remember how many 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.760 times we'd hear this conversation for any of the different companies. Well, 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:15.280 I don't think that the audience will get that you 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.199 do because you're so brilliant, But those kids won't. The 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:20.639 kids will never sit there and go, I'm not watching. 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.359 I don't understand this. They'll pretend that they get it 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.239 until they do get it and follow in. That's the 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.560 one sure path that brings the older fans back, brings 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.080 the kids in and continues to bring them in and 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.280 as they learn the nomenclature. Let's face it, the fans 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.760 what the kids used to know by time they'd reached twelve, thirteen, fourteen, 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.200 fifteen years old, because they had watched with their older brother, sister, 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:46.199 grandma and grandpa, mom or dad. They had learned it. 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:49.280 They'd sort of been seasoned into it, groomed into it, 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:53.560 if you will, to use kurrent nomenclature. We've stopped doing that, 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:58.080 and to do it to try to bring just that 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:02.200 back in and not bring the fans that are not watching, 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.200 that have walked away, not working to bring them back, 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:06.879 and I think would be the absolute. 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:07.120 Kiss of death. 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.000 So let's see what happens in a couple of weeks 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:13.679 with WrestleMania. This could be a WrestleMania that said some 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.240 Just based on the things that I'm learning here tonight, 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:21.720 this seems to be an interesting and intriguing WrestleMania because 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.199 there are so many of these things on the table, 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.760 and the just the intrigue that we're talking about here. 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:29.359 And what's going on with these different people. 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:31.840 All the fans out there are talking about the same 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.159 stuff and scratching their head and going to tune in 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:37.000 and watch. So let's hope that we get more of 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:40.720 that coming out and not less of it or or 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:42.879 a deeper dive towards sports entertainment. 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:47.600 I just don't think that the people who are watching 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:53.080 The Vault are tuning into the Netflix or it's Netflix, right, 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:56.560 I don't think they're tuning in. I don't. I don't 0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:00.159 think me watching ww Vault is going to make me 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:03.720 a fan of the current product, because they're going there 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:07.399 for nostalgia. They're going there to see what they used 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:11.760 to do and what they grew up with. And you know, 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:15.240 as a fan, I mean, you know, I have this show, 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:19.360 so I have to be on top of things as 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:21.440 much as I can without sitting there for three hours 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:24.520 and watching it. But I'll tell you what, watching the 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:29.600 Vault not only brings me back, but it says to 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:34.840 me what I used to enjoy about the product is 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:38.520 in the past, and now they're going in a different direction. 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:42.119 So that's why I was saying, do they look at 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.520 all these subscribers that are, you know, coming up to 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:47.800 two million, and does a light bulb go off and say, Man, 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.640 maybe we take some of those elements that we used 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:55.000 to do and put them in the current product. That's all. 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:57.919 I'm not saying change the whole format because that's not 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:01.760 going to work. But you know, not even not even 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:05.480 so much the sexuality, just some of the the stuff 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:08.600 that you know, the nWo stuff that was so cool 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:12.520 back then, Now it's like there's no shock value. 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:14.120 Yeah, you know that was. 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:16.720 Shocking back then, even if you were smart to the business. 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:19.040 It was. I just remember sitting there saying, this is 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:22.280 the coolest thing I've seen. And I was such a 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:25.080 mark for the nWo. I loved it. I loved every 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:27.320 week not knowing where they were going to enter the building, 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:30.600 who they were going to harass, that little things, and 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:33.199 I'm not seeing that in the current product. I'm not 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:37.240 saying these guys can't work, because they're all wonderful workers. 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:41.040 But there hasn't really been an angle that has captivated 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:44.520 me to make me want to watch the show every 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.720 week like it did back in the nineties. And again, 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:50.320 maybe I'm just showing my age on that, but there's 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:52.080 there's nothing out there right now. 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:55.159 Yeah, which was I think Underscore is exactly what I 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:59.320 was saying, right if you by giving those appetizers that 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:02.280 really great stuff from back in the day, is going 0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:03.800 to what the appetite. You know, they're going to have 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:06.840 that appetizer now they want the steak on the plate. Afterwards, 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:10.600 it's we're I mean, we're gonna see very quickly where 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:12.399 they're going with it, because it's really a fork in 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:16.040 the road. I don't see endeavor after spending nine point 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:20.399 what four billion on it turning around and saying, Okay, 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:23.760 now we're going to go back in the Vincent Man direction, 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:26.920 especially in the institute of the new roles that you could. 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:29.159 Call it wrestling. It is a world title. 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:32.120 Uh, you know all those things that Vince had sanitized out, 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:34.760 including I think some of the really risk case stuff 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:37.680 that you're talking about that when it became a kid's 0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:39.720 product and a cartoon product. 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:43.000 Those You know, if you're sitting there. 0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:45.080 With your kids, you don't want to see them, right, 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:47.000 you know, it's seven eight years old seeing the kind 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:49.320 of stuff that we used to do in ECW which 0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:53.000 is why my kids hadn't seen it either. But you 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:55.920 know they I can tell you this when Connor, who 0:22:57.040 --> 0:22:59.360 it wasn't they had never watched it. Obviously they did 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:00.879 with their friends and fuf hey just see what your 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:04.400 dad dealing with this or that, but they had never 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:07.280 had home sat and watched it. And and now Connor 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:10.480 wants to go back and watch it sequentially, so everything 0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:12.880 he gets it the same as the original fans got 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:16.399 it and moving forward, and he's intrigued by it. I 0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:19.679