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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode number one forty one of the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Tatum Everett cannot be here because Jay she has more

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Speaker 1: Miller Light Draft Party. You can experience the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: good for you to racist with your presence. Thank you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was every year I'm at the combine, and this year, man,

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Speaker 1: I had a crop of guys that I was really

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Speaker 1: impressed with. A Couple of them told me they're gonna

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Speaker 1: run four threes and four three. But the biggest guy

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Speaker 1: Jordan Davis. Yes, man, he ran a four to six

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Speaker 1: and then first of all the scouts were like, NASA

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Speaker 1: four to seven, four to seven. Man, dude ran four

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Speaker 1: six and he looked he looked like Darryl Green running

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Speaker 1: a thing moves. So yeah, I'm excited for it. Man

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Speaker 1: this year for the draft. Appreciate you, John, but we're

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Speaker 1: looking forward to it. Thank you, John. We just appreciate

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Speaker 1: everything you've done for this organization, for everything in the show,

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Speaker 1: So thank you, school Baby. If you look at what

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Speaker 1: the Vikings fans are going to be in for this

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Speaker 1: entire weekend, we have so much more to offer. With

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Speaker 1: all these analysts, all these experts recapping what the Vikings

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Speaker 1: will do on day one, Day two, and day three,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be an exciting weekend. Yeah, And I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, going from a guy like John Randall who

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Speaker 1: has an undrafted player who can prove to you it

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Speaker 1: doesn't ma where you get your start, once you get

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Speaker 1: your foot in the door, you got to make the

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Speaker 1: most of your opportunity. I think a guy like John

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Speaker 1: personifies that and just what he did from the road,

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Speaker 1: literally in his small house in Mumford, Texas to the

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Speaker 1: bust at Canton, Ohio. John is a perfect example of

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Speaker 1: what a player, what opportunity they can take and what

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Speaker 1: they can turn it into. So it was great to

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Speaker 1: be able to talk to John. I think the best

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Speaker 1: part about Draft weekend is it's the excitement of the

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Speaker 1: possibility of what this could mean for the franchise. We're

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Speaker 1: still at the phase where all thirty two teams feel

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Speaker 1: like I've got a shot to win the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: Trophy this year. And it always feels like once you're

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Speaker 1: done with free agency and you get to the draft time,

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Speaker 1: that is the part where you start to say, here

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Speaker 1: comes the young, fun, exciting talent we've been watching for

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Speaker 1: three to four years in college, and now it's time

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Speaker 1: they can do to help you out. It's Christmas in April. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've always I always joke and say, all right, let's

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Speaker 1: feels like. Especially that first round pick, if you've got one,

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Speaker 1: there's always the excitement of I know these names because one,

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Speaker 1: them have been rolling through the combine. But three, they

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Speaker 1: are some of your favorite players and some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite college teams that have excited you for years and

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Speaker 1: years at this point, so again, this weekend, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: very much like a holiday weekend. It's let's let's wake

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Speaker 1: you got. Early mornings, long nights, but all for the

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Speaker 1: gift that is about to be presented to the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Vikings come Sunday when the draft is officially over. I

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Speaker 1: know there's gonna be a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 1: draft picks, a lot of undrafted free agents selected will

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Speaker 1: sign after the draft is over. But this is a

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Speaker 1: very exciting time and I'm excited for Vikings fans. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it gets me excited just to be able to, you know,

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Speaker 1: stay up late with you some of these other guys

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Speaker 1: and be able to talk ball. But more importantly, I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to stop to not have to preview the draft anymore.

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Speaker 1: As much fun as it was to be able to

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Speaker 1: talk this whole preview process. Now these guys are here.

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Speaker 1: Now we get I guess, a glimpse into the identity

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Speaker 1: of how Kevin and Quacy thinks, because right now it's

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Speaker 1: a lot of questions because these guys have never been

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Speaker 1: in a position where they can make decisions on who

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Speaker 1: they should draft. Granted, they've been in the rooms, but

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Speaker 1: they never had a head coaching title or a general

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Speaker 1: manager title. So this will be fun Vikings fans to

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Speaker 1: stay tuned the Vikings dot Com. As I said in

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Speaker 1: the beginning, if you cannot make it to Vegas, you

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Speaker 1: can join us for the twenty twenty two Middle Light

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Speaker 1: Vikings Draft Party at us Bank Stadium and bring your

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Speaker 1: crew for a night of entertainment Los Vegas Style. Celebrate

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Speaker 1: the newest member of the Minnesota Vikings with live KFA

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Speaker 1: and coverage and appearances by current players and Vikings legends

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Speaker 1: like Doors open at six pm and for more sick

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Speaker 1: and information head on over to Vikings dot com. Jay,

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Speaker 1: I know I'm looking forward to saying a lot of

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Speaker 1: Vikings fans. I probably won't be there the entire time.

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Speaker 1: I'll be there for a couple of you know, Fox

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Speaker 1: nine hits, and I'll be on KFA and for a

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Speaker 1: little bit, but after I'm headed back over to TCOPC

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Speaker 1: because that's when the real work starts. Have so much

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Speaker 1: going on here. Yeah, it's a lot of fun just

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Speaker 1: being able to be with everybody and we're all kind

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Speaker 1: of watching everything unfold real time. There's always the excitement

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Speaker 1: of draft night. Draft party is always one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite times of the year when you would go to

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Speaker 1: draft parties see all the fans getting excited again and

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Speaker 1: just enjoying the kfan festivities as well as the NFL

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Speaker 1: Network coverage and just being able to watch PA and

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Speaker 1: all the analysts be able to break down what's currently

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Speaker 1: happening and trying to essentially predict what's about to happen,

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Speaker 1: hopefully for the Vikings at this point at the number

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Speaker 1: twelve pick. So that prediction of what the Vikings going

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Speaker 1: to do at the number twelve pick is always the

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Speaker 1: fun part of the night to then once it actually

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Speaker 1: a great weekend of football and the excitement that comes

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Speaker 1: with the NFL Draft from all the talk that we

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Speaker 1: have done over the past couple of weeks or past

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Speaker 1: couple of moths at that Yeah, what are you most

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Speaker 1: I know you just talked about the draft party, but

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Speaker 1: as far as just the weekend in itself, if you

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Speaker 1: coming out of the weekend, what are you most looking

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Speaker 1: forward to? I'm looking forward to the fact that this

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Speaker 1: I feel like we really try to shine and it's

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Speaker 1: not only you can get analysis from anyone. You can

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Speaker 1: go to all these different sites and try to get

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Speaker 1: as much information as possible on who we're going to pick,

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Speaker 1: who we might pick, the predictions, the analysts, everything. What

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Speaker 1: we really pride ourselves on is once we do make

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Speaker 1: those selections, being able to bring you interviews with that person,

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Speaker 1: being able to talk to Quacy and to Kevin and

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Speaker 1: try to get their insights on why they're excited about

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Speaker 1: the new members of this team. And more than that,

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Speaker 1: it's just being able to give you some of the inside,

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes information that you might not get anywhere else.

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Speaker 1: So I'm always excited. I'm usually exhausted on Sunday because

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Speaker 1: it's you know, long days, long nights, but it's also

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Speaker 1: the excitement that comes with it, and it's always worth

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Speaker 1: it when you see the fans getting excited over social

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Speaker 1: media hits and tweets and podcasts and everything else that

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Speaker 1: we're doing. In the end, when the fans are excited

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Speaker 1: it's it's well worth it, It is going to be

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Speaker 1: well worth it, and these is This will be my

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Speaker 1: first normal draft. I guess last year's draft was semi normal,

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Speaker 1: but we're still I guess we were in a still

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Speaker 1: weird Yeah, it was still weird. So I'm just excited

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Speaker 1: common goal. From the business perspective, to see these guys

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Speaker 1: when they get on the field, that's when it's go time.

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Speaker 1: That's when our job really starts. So hopefully when they

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Speaker 1: get here it won't be as cold in Minnesota anymore,

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Speaker 1: because I feel like this entire off season it's just

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Speaker 1: one thing that's gonna be fun for you to see

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Speaker 1: two here is as the years go on and you

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Speaker 1: bright eyed and like, you know, like, oh man, what's

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Speaker 1: going on here? And then to see them grow as

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, Arizona picks the linemen,

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Speaker 1: just literally went, oh, this is happening, you know, like

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Speaker 1: that draft weekend. It's a lot a lot of fun

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Speaker 1: to watch. Yeah, fun weekend ahead Vikings fans, stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: I know we've had a lot of podcasts in the

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Speaker 1: past couple of weeks, but I feel like the numbers

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Speaker 1: are going to continue to stay high because fans love

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Speaker 1: this kind of energy just going towards a new error

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Speaker 1: for Vikings football. And I think that is why we've

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Speaker 1: seen such excitement around this building, such excitement on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: It's go time. And the best part for me now

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Speaker 1: is this is where all of your kind of final

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Speaker 1: predictions start to happen. Right, So this is the best

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Speaker 1: part of all right, let's put some pen to paper

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Speaker 1: here and see what we got and see what people

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Speaker 1: analysts and people that we work with, and there's a

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Speaker 1: do with them, but one of the best is always,

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Speaker 1: all right, put some pen to paper and see what

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Speaker 1: you guys think. And so we made sure that right

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Speaker 1: to go wind, we're at the point where they have

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Speaker 1: to make their predictions. And full disclaimer, all of these

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Speaker 1: opinions are not opinions of the Minnesota Vikings. The Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Vikings just allow us to have this platform to be

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Speaker 1: able to provide fans with insight and perspective, which makes

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Speaker 1: Pete Bursch. And we'll start things off with the guy

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Speaker 1: that I just named less, mister Pete Bursch. Now we

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Speaker 1: do they think the Vikings should do with the twelve

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Speaker 1: overall pick. And I'm gonna start with a very good

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Speaker 1: friend of mine and probably he probably wouldn't say the

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Speaker 1: for advice and let's who for a lot of in

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Speaker 1: game conversation even though he is talking on to Mike,

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Speaker 1: former Vikings coach. Now the Vikings great, your analysts, Pete

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Speaker 1: versus Pete. How's it going? It's good now, Gabe. You

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Speaker 1: gotta be honest. You usually turn to me for a

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Speaker 1: writing utensile because for some reason, you're, you know, thirty

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Speaker 1: some games in a booth. You just sometimes forget to

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Speaker 1: bring a pen. I'm sorry most of them. Don't worry, Pete.

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Speaker 1: There's two of them laying on the table in front

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Speaker 1: of him right now. I make sure there's ample here

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Speaker 1: in the room, right Yeah, but yeah, exactly is this

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Speaker 1: for some reason when he goes up in the booth, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have there's no there's no room Jay in

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Speaker 1: those fancy you know, suits and stuff for a pen.

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Speaker 1: You gotta look. You can't have lines in him. You

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Speaker 1: gotta see j J. Jay is looking out for the

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Speaker 1: team here, in which we need to talk more about

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Speaker 1: the team because this Vikings team is selecting right now

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Speaker 1: twelve overall in the draft, and like Quacy said earlier

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Speaker 1: this week, if you were selecting twelve, you have to

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Speaker 1: know twelve names off the top of your head that

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Speaker 1: you could select. And the Vikings they have a plan

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Speaker 1: for who they want to select. But Pete, if you

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Speaker 1: were the GM and you were selecting, yeah, the twelfth

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Speaker 1: overall pick for the Vikings, who would you pick? And like, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you want you know, if you want names,

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Speaker 1: you know, Derek Stingley Junior is definitely a guy who

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Speaker 1: not only is checks a number of boxes that in

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Speaker 1: that respect, he's worthy of that pick, I would think,

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Speaker 1: and you know, unless there's something about him I don't know,

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Speaker 1: which would very well be UM. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a few positions on this team where

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Speaker 1: a number twelve pick is going to be an immediate starter,

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Speaker 1: one of which is cornerback. Another one's safety, you know,

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Speaker 1: another one is interior defensive tackle because we need three

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Speaker 1: not just two. You can play a format front, but um,

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Speaker 1: donna tell like still also play with five men up front.

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Speaker 1: M And I also think an edge rusher may not

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Speaker 1: start on first and second down. Um, but you got

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Speaker 1: to give Zadarius Smith and you know, and and Daniel

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Speaker 1: Hunter a break. And I think Zadarius Smith is a

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Speaker 1: much more effective pass rusher. Well I know I'd argue

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Speaker 1: this point with anybody, but he's a much much more

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Speaker 1: effective interior pass rusher on third downs than he is

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Speaker 1: from the edge. So I think that you know, that

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Speaker 1: position would fill a need as well. And then maybe

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe right guard, but you know, right guard,

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Speaker 1: is there is there a pick in this draft that's

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Speaker 1: a guard that should be top twelve overall? You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, so looking at it from from

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Speaker 1: those things Stingley makes, you know, a lot of sense,

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Speaker 1: and the other ones would would as well. Kyle Hamilton,

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Speaker 1: I've seen him. You see him on boards everywhere from

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Speaker 1: one to fourteen. It's like, okay, can we you know,

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Speaker 1: can we figure this thing out? And then Jermaine Johnson,

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Speaker 1: outside minebacker from you know, from Florida State. I think

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Speaker 1: he's he's an explosive player, and I think that's kind

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Speaker 1: of the thing, the physicality of it that isn't always

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Speaker 1: you know, you look at the Bears back when Donnakeel

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Speaker 1: was there, and you can look at the Broncos and

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Speaker 1: you know he talks about and physical and set in

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Speaker 1: the edge. You know what does that mean? Right? What

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Speaker 1: does that mean? That just means that no tight end

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Speaker 1: is going to be able to block one of our

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Speaker 1: outside linebackers. It's just it's just not not not the case.

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Speaker 1: Even two of them. Mean they need to be able

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Speaker 1: to hold up and set the edge and not be

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Speaker 1: pushed outside. It makes all those gaps you're trying to

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Speaker 1: defend bigger. So you got to have someone out there

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Speaker 1: who's who's violent and who's physical, and I think Johnson,

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Speaker 1: you know's that guy as well. He's very strong, very physical,

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Speaker 1: and you know, so of the of the names that

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Speaker 1: I've seen haven't done a lot of deep dives on

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Speaker 1: offense as far as receiver and those things go. But

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Speaker 1: those three guys stand out to me. Is you know,

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Speaker 1: if we come away with any one of those three, um,

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Speaker 1: I'd be you know, I would be happy until I

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Speaker 1: see him in the preseason, and I have the right

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Speaker 1: to change in my mind. I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people similar to to to yourself are saying the defensive

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Speaker 1: side of the ball, which you know Hamilton Stanley and

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Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson both play on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: and I think you can plug and play those guys

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Speaker 1: in immediately. But every not really many people are talking

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Speaker 1: about the day two in day three needs what other

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Speaker 1: position should the Vikings addressed? With those two days in mind,

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Speaker 1: those U seven or eight picks later, he brought in

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Speaker 1: a number of veteran free agent interior offensive alignment. So

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Speaker 1: if nothing occurs there, you know, I think you'll be

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Speaker 1: You'll be, You'll be okay. But if there's a center

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Speaker 1: or a guard staring in the face in the second

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Speaker 1: round that you really like, by all means um depth

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Speaker 1: at wide receiver position. Um, I think we saw that

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Speaker 1: last year with Celand being out as much as he was. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, you want to have somebody in there that

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Speaker 1: brings a little different skill set maybe than Ceeland. You

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Speaker 1: know Celand does, and or you know Jefferson meaning kind

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Speaker 1: of a slot wiggle guy across the middle of a

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Speaker 1: guy that's kind of a hybrid, you know, some running

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Speaker 1: and some reverses and things like that. So someone who's

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Speaker 1: not necessarily so big in durable, but explosive, you know.

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Speaker 1: And then again defensively, depthit linebacker. You know, depthit linebacker

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Speaker 1: I think you need. And we talked about some of

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Speaker 1: the other positions where you know you can get it.

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Speaker 1: You can get a day one starter. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I think the other thing too is just who's going

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Speaker 1: to be the backup running back. You know, who's going

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Speaker 1: to take that spy think Alexander Madison has had plenty of.

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Speaker 1: If you want to take some snaps off of Dalvin,

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Speaker 1: then you need someone back there. They can not only run,

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Speaker 1: but also pass protect which means you get to know protections.

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Speaker 1: And in this offense, as we've seen, they do a

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Speaker 1: lot with the running back out of the backfield. So

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Speaker 1: and you can find some really good running backs and linebackers.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you the way it sounds at you know,

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Speaker 1: rounds three and four and stuff like that. So those

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Speaker 1: positions can be addressed. But later, I know you have

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Speaker 1: a lot of analysis, a lot of takes, and once

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Speaker 1: the season rolls around you get a chance to watch

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Speaker 1: him a person unfortunately beside me. So looking forward to

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Speaker 1: our time together between now and then. Appreciate you. What

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Speaker 1: are you talking about? You're writing around the golf cart

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Speaker 1: with the GM. I don't even see you. Appreciate you, Pete,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Pete. All right, Ron Johnson is here. You

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Speaker 1: don't know Ron Johnson. You probably should watch more Vikings

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Speaker 1: content because he's been on a lot. He's going to

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Speaker 1: be on a lot more this upcoming week. We have

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Speaker 1: a lot of Vikings draft reactions on Vikings dot com

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Speaker 1: every single night this weekend, so Ron Johnson myself will

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Speaker 1: be doing that on top of the Minnesota Vikings podcast

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Speaker 1: every night with Jay Nelson and a couple other analysts.

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Speaker 1: So I stay tuned. But Ron, before we get there,

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Speaker 1: the Vikings are selecting twelfth overall as of right now

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Speaker 1: as we speak. If you were quasi adopol MENTA, who

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Speaker 1: would you select with the twelfth overall pick? Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: going with Stingley Jr. And the reason why I'm in

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Speaker 1: him inting on him now from LSUM, I like so

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Speaker 1: many so I'm bigging like sign. And if you look

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Speaker 1: at all the sign, you got Patrick Peterson who came back,

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Speaker 1: LSU kid, you got Justin Jefferson killing it LSU kid,

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Speaker 1: you got the nail hunter LSU and so, and you

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Speaker 1: got the former DV coach LSU. So what that does

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Speaker 1: is it creates an automatic feeling. And I remember being

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Speaker 1: a rookie with the Baltimore Ravens and walking into that

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Speaker 1: locker room knowing Bart Scott already because Bart Scott was

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Speaker 1: from Detroit, knowing Javid Hunter because he's from Detroit, Anchester Taylor,

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Speaker 1: all of us were picked up by the Ravens that

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Speaker 1: year drafted or free agent. We were all from Detroit.

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Speaker 1: We all knew each other, so it was a comfortable start.

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Speaker 1: Where As our rookie group of twelve rookies, four of

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Speaker 1: us we're already friends, so we kind of created the

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Speaker 1: immediate circle where air Ree was hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Weaver was my roommate and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: Will Dimps wants to hang out with us and Terry

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Speaker 1: Jones from Alabama, and so we just all became like

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Speaker 1: a quick group, quick knit group of rookies. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's what that's going to ask for Stanley Junior

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Speaker 1: coming here knowing that he knows these guys, he's played

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Speaker 1: with Justin Jefferson, and it's an easy pick. I think

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Speaker 1: that's what I would do it well, when you look

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Speaker 1: at the injury, If he's not injured, he's probably in

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Speaker 1: the top seven. That's the thing. Without the injury, he's

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Speaker 1: probably a lock in the top ten. Pick that he's injured,

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Speaker 1: people are questioning that foot is he going to be

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Speaker 1: able to play and if the Vike is to get

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Speaker 1: him at twelve and all the trainers have checked him out,

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Speaker 1: the surgeons have said he's fine. I would say it's

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Speaker 1: a steal at twelve because he's a kid that probably

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Speaker 1: goes higher if not for that injury. Like a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are saying, Bucky Brooks said it earlier this

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Speaker 1: week that he doesn't think Stingley is going to be

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Speaker 1: here because people are starting to say that foot injury

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Speaker 1: is good and scouts are starting to buy in on that.

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Speaker 1: So who would be your your backup plan or the

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Speaker 1: next guy the best player available for you? If if

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Speaker 1: Stingley is gone in the top ten, well, if I'm

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Speaker 1: Vikings fans, I'm tweeting out I don't know about that

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Speaker 1: foot just to deter some of these gems and are

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Speaker 1: looking at Twitter. But yeah, I mean Andrew boot Jr.

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Speaker 1: You know you can't go wrong there. I honestly I

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Speaker 1: like tire Elam if you were to drop back, the

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Speaker 1: Steelers are looking for a quarterback, if you somehow can

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Speaker 1: scare them into thinking that somebody before their pick, so sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,

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Speaker 1: somebody in there fifteen even that they're gonna take their guy,

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Speaker 1: which their guy probably is the quarterback out of pit.

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Speaker 1: And if they think that somebody's gonna take him, maybe

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Speaker 1: they want to talk to teams that are up and

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Speaker 1: they want to get that twelve and for them to

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Speaker 1: take the twelve from the Vikings, give the Vikings twenty,

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Speaker 1: give the Vikings a second round pick, and then the

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Speaker 1: Vikings give them a higher third round pick, and they

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Speaker 1: drop back in the third with the Pittsburgh Stiller third

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Speaker 1: round pick. I don't see why not. I mean that

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Speaker 1: seems like an easy one. You jump eight picks, you

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Speaker 1: give up your second, and then you jump up in

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Speaker 1: the third and the Vikings drop back in the third.

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Speaker 1: It kind of is fair for everybody. The Vikings get him,

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Speaker 1: they wanted twenty, which could still have another corner out there.

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Speaker 1: I think cam Danzler is gonna be fine in this

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Speaker 1: new scheme because in the three to four there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a lot of zone shelves in the three to four,

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Speaker 1: and I think a coach that can get to them

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Speaker 1: and be you know, in his ear, not having Zimmer,

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Speaker 1: you know, really confusing them with a lot of changes

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Speaker 1: in calls. I don't see why you wouldn't go that.

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Speaker 1: And then you can have a guy like hire elm

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Speaker 1: at six two who is really good, can be played

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Speaker 1: press zone, long arms, cover a lot of area. You

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Speaker 1: can grow him up in this and he can learn

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Speaker 1: from Patrick Peterson day two, who will be your top

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Speaker 1: two or three possessions of need that the Vikings should

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Speaker 1: address specifically on day two. I mean you look at

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Speaker 1: tight End, you know, are they completely sold on Earth Smith?

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00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: Is he healthy? Is he going to be able to

854
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: come back and go there's not really a top guy there.

855
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,959
Speaker 1: You look at some of the guys in the later

856
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: rounds that could give you some production process. You got

857
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: Jeremy Rucker out Ohio State. You got Trey McBride out

858
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: of Colorado State. There's a guy I covered who can

859
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: be even in the later later rounds, Cold Turner out

860
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: of Nevada. Now, he's a kid that play receiver. He

861
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 1: you know, wasn't fast enough play receiver, six six, two

862
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: forty six basketball player, just learning how to play tight

863
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: end like the last three years. So he's a raw

864
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: six six, two forty six young When he gets that

865
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: grown man strength and body, he could get up to

866
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: two fifty five probably, and he can out jump everybody

867
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: on the field. That's a guy that in the late

868
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: rounds might one day. You know, you look back and

869
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: be like, man, this kid, you know, has that Tony

870
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: Gonzalez type of ability in the red zone. Not in

871
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: open field just yet, but you know he's a sleeper

872
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: that you know the Vikings and I know they looked

873
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: at Carson Strong the quarterback, so his tight end had

874
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: to pop up on film. So that's a that's a

875
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: tight end that they can add in the late rounds.

876
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: I mean they have him raided as like you know,

877
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: top two hundred, so that's a fourth round pick there.

878
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you can get this kid in the fourth,

879
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: fifth round and he can come in and probably you know,

880
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: be your second tight end with Earth. The only difference though,

881
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: he's not a blocker, so you're getting another pass receiving

882
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: tight end and that's gonna be the question where Trey McBride,

883
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: Jeremy Rutgers, those are more of your blocking tight ends

884
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: and both you know at two fifty six, four six five.

885
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: I know they brought in the kid from from the Rams,

886
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: but you know, I don't know if they think he's

887
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: the guy or is he the blocker? Is that they

888
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: are they bringing that guy because he's gonna be a

889
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: blocking tight end or it's gonna be a passing tight end.

890
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: You add another one because who knows down the road

891
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: is gonna happen with Dalvin Cook. And if this becomes

892
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: less of a running back team and more of a

893
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: true Rams team where you just go get any running

894
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: back out there they can give you. Yeah, I know

895
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying, you know, just dressed

896
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball and then just I'll

897
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: score everybody to hell with what the defense looks like,

898
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: so we'll see what the Vikings do there. But Ron,

899
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: appreciate your time today. Vikings fans, stay tuned. You will

900
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: be seeing a lot of Ron. And this takes all weekend,

901
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: this upcoming week. Yeah, appreciate it all. Right now, it's

902
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: a pleasure of being joined by a guy who has

903
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: been losing hair the past two days because of his

904
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: two mock drafts that have him going crazy. I'm talking

905
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: about former Vikings linebacker Ben Lieber, a good friend of mine,

906
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: a good friend of the show. And Ben, I mean,

907
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: the Vikings right now have the top overall pick. And

908
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,479
Speaker 1: I got off the social media in the past couple

909
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: of days as far as like reading it because everything

910
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: smoky mirrors right now, I know you've still been on

911
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: social media. So right now with the tough overall pick,

912
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: what has you losing your hair? And who would you select? Well,

913
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: first of all, Dad, how would you know if I'm

914
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: active on social media? If you didn't, if you haven't

915
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: been on social media. I have people who knows people

916
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: who has who have Twitter accounts. He's going Twitter adjacent, Ben,

917
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: Twitter adjacent, Twitter by proxy, Twitter by proxy. I love it.

918
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: He's not doing it, but he just pokes at somebody

919
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 1: sitting next to him, saying, now, what you know, refresh, refresh,

920
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: what's Twitter saying? Now I got off Twitter? Yeah, don't

921
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 1: tell me, tell me. Oh my gosh, you guys. It's

922
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: been killing me because for this whole time I've just

923
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: been a very much an innocent bystandard watching everybody else

924
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: you bock drafts and just sort of analyzing their analysis

925
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: and like, Okay, that makes sense. That guy could be

926
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: there either yea, either yea or NAYI or pick for

927
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: the Vikings. Well, you know, lately, I've actually put some

928
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: pen to paper, put some thought to it, and said,

929
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: all right, I understand what everybody else is kind of thinking,

930
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: but this is kind of what makes sense to me

931
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: in the draft, and this is why I think that

932
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: I these mock drafts are going to go the way

933
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: I think it's going to go, thus leaving me with

934
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: a ton of options for the Vikings that pick twelve,

935
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: so that I mean, I could see us going anywhere

936
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: from one of the one of the top three receivers,

937
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: which has picked up a lot of steam lately and

938
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: does make a lot of sense looking long term down

939
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: the road and what this offense is going to look

940
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: like with three receiver sets. Most of the time, we

941
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: all know that feeling's going to be and he's going

942
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: to be off the Vikings roster here the next you know,

943
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: after next season or the season after, So you have

944
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: to look long term with the wide receiver position. We

945
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: all know that cornerback is by the biggest position of need.

946
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: And then I myself and more of a hey looked

947
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: disrupt the passer to help our cornerbacks out, So I

948
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: put edge rusher more at maybe a position of need,

949
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: maybe even higher than the cornerbacks. So it kind of

950
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: leaves you with a ton of different questions and a

951
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: ton of different players at twelve. So are you guys

952
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: gonna put me on the spot and actually say this

953
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: is a guy that one guy you want to name,

954
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm gonna go with. Okay, And I want

955
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: you guys to kind of hear me out on this.

956
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: And this is a pie in the sky that's case scenario.

957
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that Trayvon Walker and Georgia is there at twelve.

958
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: Now people listening to this and say, Lever, you're so

959
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: full of bs that there's no way he's going to

960
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: be there because he's he's been powded to go in

961
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: the top five. I mean, he has just climbed up

962
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: the boards because is very rare and raw athletic ability,

963
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: and he's he's a little bit positioned less as far

964
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: as on the defensive line. They're like, just put him

965
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: out there and he's going to go out and make

966
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: plays like he has a super high ceiling, very athletic

967
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: all that, and so everybody's looking at potential with him

968
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: and they're like, we can't let a prospect like this

969
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: slip away. Well, the reason I have him going and

970
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: being available at twelve is because of a couple of things.

971
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it's out of the question that the

972
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 1: Lions with the number two pick they go wide receiver.

973
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: And as much as everybody thinks is the deep wide

974
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: receiver class, I still think there's a top crema of

975
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: the group that you want to select from, and they

976
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: have desperate need and help at the wide receiver position,

977
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: just like some other positions of need for them. I mean, yeah,

978
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: they need linebacker help, they could use a corner as well,

979
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: but I think once their secondary gets healthy and going

980
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: in the next season. Why not grab the best wide

981
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: receiver in the class. And I think that shakes a

982
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 1: lot of things up. I actually, in my little mock draft,

983
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: have them taking Garrett Wilson, who I think is the

984
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: best wide receiver in the class, and that kind of

985
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 1: pushes things downward. I have the Panthers not waiting around

986
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: to make trades for quarterback. I have them selecting your

987
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: guy willis from reality. Why not why not take a

988
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 1: guy Matt Rules on the hot seat. You've got a

989
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: guy that can get out of trouble even if the

990
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: offensive line is not there. He has a capability, huge arm.

991
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: He's got an arm much very similar to Cam Newton

992
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: in his prime. So why not utilize that bring a

993
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 1: Cam like figure back to Carolina. I do not disagree

994
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: with you, and I think that is the most interesting

995
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: part of this draft right because there's no clear cut

996
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: quarterback to be taken number one overall. So that's why

997
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: there are so many conversations being had. But let's say

998
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson does fall to the Vikings and Quasia Dopelmenza

999
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: takes your advice and drafts Garrett Wilson. How does he

1000
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: fit on this team? Right now that has Adam Thalien

1001
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: JJ Mery Smith Marsette kJ Osbourne. Where does he fit

1002
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: in that? I think right away because of draft position alone,

1003
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: the way that I think that he can get area,

1004
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: he can get opened in a short area. I put

1005
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: him right there at the number the number two slash

1006
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: three position. You know, I think that's the beauty of

1007
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: having a guy like Adam Feeling and he has position flexibility.

1008
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: You know, he lined up inside and outside his whole career.

1009
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: You know, you can line him up in the slot

1010
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: if you want to to go get too nickelback and

1011
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 1: he's stronger than those guys and he's going to create separation.

1012
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: He has the route savvy to be an outside wide receiver.

1013
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: So I think because of Feeling you have position flexibility,

1014
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: you get a guy like Garrett Wilson, who I think

1015
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: is the most Stefon Diggs like in his route running,

1016
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: in his approach and his body mechanics that he can be,

1017
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: you know, a short area, short yardage possession type receiver.

1018
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: Even though he's not a super huge guy, he's got

1019
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: a nice run after the catch. I think he goes

1020
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: right into the starting lineup. Unfortunately, I think, you know,

1021
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: kJ and Smith Marsette kind of take a back seat

1022
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 1: and fight for that fourth position. I mean, think about

1023
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: the Cowboys a couple of years ago with Cbee Lamb.

1024
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: They had a Marie Cooper, Michael Gallup, they had Noah Brown,

1025
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: other receivers that can make plays, and then they bring

1026
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: in and drop the guy in CD Lamb. You see

1027
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: all things shake up there. And now I'm ARII Cooper

1028
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: is in Cleveland right now, and now every I feel

1029
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: like everybody one in that situation. Granted, we know the

1030
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 1: Vikings still have bigger needs outside of the wide receiver position,

1031
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: but I'm glad you gave that analysis. But day two,

1032
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: day three, there are going to be a lot of

1033
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: more needs that the Vikings need to fulfill. What are

1034
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: some of those needs that the Vikes need to fulfill

1035
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: in day two and day three that maybe a lot

1036
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: of people aren't talking about right now. Well, if you

1037
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: do get a guy like Garrett Wilson or let's just

1038
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: say that Drake London is there, and that's that they

1039
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: think that that's the better of the two or the

1040
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: best available wide receiver at that point, then I think

1041
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: that you have to shift to the defensive side and

1042
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm I'm all for edge rusher. I'm

1043
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: all for some type of guy that can disrupt the

1044
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: passer and really help those cornerbacks out. There's going to

1045
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: be some corners that you could take there. But I

1046
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: still think you have to solidify the edge. You have

1047
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: to still solidify the defensive front. And let's be honest.

1048
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: They gave Darius Smith basically a one year deal and

1049
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: it's basically a week to week thing because of this

1050
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: back injury. Now he says it's the healthiest he's ever been.

1051
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: It really wasn't that huge of a surgery and he's

1052
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: going to be fine. Can you count on him for

1053
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: seventeen games? I don't think so. And even if he

1054
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: can be there for seventeen games, why not have this

1055
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: unbelievable rotation and the flexibility to move guys around. Moved

1056
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: him to the inside where he's had a lot of

1057
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: success rushing the passer and having a different fresh, you know,

1058
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: college kid on the outside that's super dynamic as well.

1059
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: So I think that you have to address the edge

1060
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: and the past rushing standpoint on defense. Can I ask you, guys,

1061
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: who are some of the other selections that other people

1062
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: have made top tier picks so far has been Stingley

1063
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 1: Junior with a side piece of Davis Hamilton and potentially

1064
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson in there. So I'm the only one that

1065
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: potentially has Walker going there. Yep. I've I've changed my

1066
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: stance in the past like eight days and want us

1067
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: to get Garrett Wilson now. So that's why I was

1068
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: like all on board with you last week on this show.

1069
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm still all in on Garrett Wilson, Like,

1070
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 1: I don't think Stingley is going to be there personally.

1071
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: So if that's the case, well that's the crazy thing

1072
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: is okay. Well, even even if Garrett Wilson doesn't in

1073
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: my mock jacko number two of the Lions and they

1074
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: take a corner, well I think we all think that

1075
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: both Stingley and Gardner have a huge chance to be

1076
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: taken before they get to twelve. Yea. That being said,

1077
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: I think the Falcons very much will take a wide receiver.

1078
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: So if they if they think that Garrett Wilson, even

1079
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 1: if one wide receiver's taken before us, then that leaves

1080
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: you with Jamison Williams, and that leaves you with Drake London. Yeah, Well,

1081
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: which one you think is better? And if that's the case,

1082
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: then who else kind of fell? And that re Shufflin

1083
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: and that player better than than some of those wide receivers.

1084
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: I think there could be three wide receivers taken before us.

1085
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: You know, Jet, the Jets taken a corner, the Jet's

1086
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: taken a wide receiver, and the Falcon's also taken a

1087
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Who knows. Yeah, And I think the biggest

1088
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: wild card in there is does one of those quarterbacks

1089
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: go as well? If that's the case, it keeps pushing

1090
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: those guys down. There has to be a team that

1091
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: wants to take that has to take a quarterback. I

1092
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: just I think there's there's too much writing on this

1093
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: to not take a chance at one of these quarterbacks.

1094
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: And I don't think there's even more than one. I

1095
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: think the Panthers right now have they're sitting in the

1096
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: seat to take the top quarterback if they want, unless

1097
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 1: unless they truly have plans to make a draft day trade.

1098
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: I know this isn't a hot take, but I do

1099
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: think Arthur Smith is on the hot seat too, So

1100
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: I could see the Falcon's drafting a quarterback as well.

1101
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,959
Speaker 1: With the Panthers. Like the same thing you said about

1102
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: Matt Rule. I think you can say the same thing

1103
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: about Arthur Smith. It's like, dude, this thing isn't working.

1104
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna arguably the worst division in football, one of

1105
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: the worst divisions in football outside of the Buccaneers. So

1106
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: it's like, dude, if it's either when now or you're gone.

1107
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't think Marcus Mariota is

1108
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: the guy, and I think they obviously understand that. And

1109
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: you know, does somebody, does somebody really package up something

1110
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,479
Speaker 1: and try to get Garoppolo who sounds like the really

1111
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: really standing pad on the fact that he might he

1112
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: might be the quarterback for next year as well. Doesn't

1113
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: sound like things are developing for the young rookie. So

1114
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: is that is that just grand standing try to get

1115
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: more equity or what you know? So it will be

1116
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: interesting to see if one of these teams makes them

1117
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: play for vetteran quarterback and then everything just kind of

1118
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,959
Speaker 1: gets reshuffled. Very true. Appreciate you, Ben, Appreciate you guys.

1119
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: Enjoy all right. The Godfather, according to Jay, the Godfather

1120
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: of Guru's, the pertinent perfection of Paul Allen is finally

1121
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: joining the Minnesota Vikings podcast. And Paul, just from the

1122
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: video that you showed me, well, the two videos that

1123
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: you sent me, your hair has turned black to gray

1124
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: between those two videos, So clearly you're stressing out, like

1125
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: Ben Lieber about this upcoming draft on Thursday. Well, I mean,

1126
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: first of all, dear friends, you you were specifically directed

1127
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: to not share or talk about the videos I send you.

1128
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: But but that's okay. I thought that was between brands

1129
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: um and being the play by playboys for the Minnesota

1130
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: Vikings for twenty years. Your your hair will go from

1131
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: a shade of black to Michael McDonald white after some

1132
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: of these losses. So that's my lot in life, and

1133
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: I accept it. I can't believe we're not in love anymore.

1134
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: Per Well, we're not love anymore because you're sharing my

1135
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: videos with the public. Man stuff. I mean, it's when

1136
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: you have an eyebrow that is del bro and it

1137
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: doubles as a mustache. That's between us. Well, I feel

1138
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: like when when when you go on your ninth new

1139
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: radio show on Kfan every morning or the morning that

1140
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: I was there, and you tell them about the outfit

1141
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: that I sent you the night that Carolina played Kansas

1142
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: and lost. I feel like this is fair game. No,

1143
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: now I understand. I mean you're wearing those uh those

1144
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: baby blue tar heel jammies. That's about the cutest thing

1145
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: I've seen you see. But recently on nine to Noon,

1146
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: ripped you a little bit game and the Vikings Entertainment Network,

1147
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: and I mean this is these are long standing love

1148
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: affairs that I've had with Jay Nelson, Curly Harris, Jordan

1149
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: Struck and Alan and so on and so on. But

1150
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: you know, Gave is a little newer to the situation,

1151
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: and he's persistent, and he's just beaten me down from

1152
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: my pick at twelve. And I'm like, the eagle hasn't landed,

1153
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: and how are you supposed to soar with eagles when

1154
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: you fly with turkeys? But the Vikings Entertainment Network is relentless,

1155
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: so they're pounding on the announcer for a prediction. I'll

1156
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: speak for everybody you just name Gobble Gobble. Well, now

1157
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: you're voyaging with Vikings, and the Vikings have the top

1158
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: overall pick and pa, if you were the GM of

1159
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: the Vikings, where is your mindset and who would you select? Well,

1160
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: Bob was the GM of the Minnesota Vikings with that

1161
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: newfangle pay, I'd first probably move, Then secondly I'd probably

1162
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: get a different car. Then thirdly I would rub my

1163
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: temples and channel my inner great football mind, and I

1164
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: would say, Okay, I don't think the LSU corner Stingley

1165
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: is going to be there. I do not believe Oregon

1166
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: edge guy Thibodeau is going to be there. The team

1167
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: right in front of me, the team with whom you

1168
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,959
Speaker 1: used to work and when you worked up the Wren, well,

1169
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: they ain't taking defense, they're taking offense. So they might

1170
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: get a guy that I want. But nevertheless, with the

1171
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: margin rules and the algorithms and the analytics, it all

1172
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: adds up to Garrett Wilson wide receiver, the Ohio State

1173
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: and Cousins Pomps fires left caught Wilson, Oh shit, Songaire Alexander,

1174
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 1: and there he goes. I've been on the same train

1175
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: as Upa talking about Garrett Wilson over like the past

1176
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: eight or nine days. I've been saying, all right, well,

1177
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: maybe we should just spread this thing out and just

1178
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: outscore opponents. It'll help sell tickets. I mean, we're putting

1179
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: up fifty five games to forty eight. A win is

1180
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: a win call, or however you may see fit. How

1181
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: do you see him fitting here? Though? Go ahead? I

1182
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: mean I ain't trying to disrespect the MVP podcast, but

1183
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's very hard when your general manager is

1184
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: new and your head coach is new, and you got

1185
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: no past performances. So therefore this is kind of by

1186
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: football faith. But the way I'm looking at it is

1187
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings allocated so so many assets to defense

1188
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: in the off season, and what they did with the

1189
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: offensive line with the Miami Cat and Chris Reid. I

1190
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: think they believe they got their starting guard from one

1191
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: of those guys or maybe Oliuda. Okay, so now I

1192
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: just start eliminating positions, and then I think about with

1193
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: the money Danio Gott and Zadarius Smith, they bring back Peterson,

1194
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: Chandon Sullivan you had to pay him, Harrison Smith, Harrison Phillips,

1195
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: you had to pay him. So then we're just going

1196
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: to roll in here at twelve or whatever and just

1197
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: go defense. I just don't see it that way. And

1198
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: your head coach obviously has an offensive mind, and you

1199
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: know the Rams, they're not afraid to go for wide,

1200
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: so you know, JJ feeling big year for Osborne herv

1201
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: on the comeback. I think we need another high ender

1202
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: and I like Garrett Wilson for he is short to

1203
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: intermediate game and then the yards after kets. So yeah,

1204
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm on that kid. Feel free to give names if

1205
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: you want to, for free if you don't want to.

1206
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: But at what point on Day two or day three

1207
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: doesday priority race for addressing a defensive guy Since you

1208
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: go offense on day one, you know it's clichade best

1209
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: player available. And with Quacy and his press conference that

1210
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: he had on Tuesday with the media, and man, I

1211
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: really liked how he laid out when he said, you know,

1212
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: this is not about us honing in on one guy.

1213
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: If we hone in on one guy, then it's going

1214
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: to be kind of gloomy up and down the draft.

1215
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: So therefore they got a handful with the algorithms and

1216
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: the point system that leads you to multiple players. And

1217
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: now moving forward with Friday rounds two and three and

1218
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: then Saturday rounds four on um, I need I need,

1219
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: I need linebackers. I need linebackers who can play special

1220
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: teams and play it well because you know Daniel Zadarius

1221
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: Kendricks Hicks and that's if they you know, if Ander win,

1222
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: they go three four A none of those guys playing

1223
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: being special team specific kind of guys. So you got

1224
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: this Chanel cat from from Wisconsin, I like a lot. Uh.

1225
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: There's a Troy Anderson from Montana State that I like

1226
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: a lot um. You know, So I'm thinking linebackers who

1227
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,439
Speaker 1: also can start special teams and you know they're they're

1228
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: not gonna play three four every single down and when

1229
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: they get to nickel or when they run a little

1230
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: four to three, I still think we need a three

1231
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: technique who can rec havoc. So you know, a defensive

1232
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: tackle who's a three technique, linebackers absolutely, a corner or two.

1233
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 1: And then offensively, um, I think we need a swing tackle,

1234
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: you know, somebody to play the Rashad Hill roll. Daniel

1235
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: fa Lele from Annesota. I know it's kind of a

1236
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: home errific type type selection, but it's actually not because

1237
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: I've just watched him. You know, a kid who started

1238
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: playing football less than ten years ago and now he's

1239
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: probably going to be drafted in the first two days.

1240
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: So he's getting good in a hurry and he can

1241
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: help you with swing tackle. So that's kind of where

1242
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: I am. That is a mountain of a man to fall.

1243
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: Leila is a big, big boy. I mean, you could

1244
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: just imagine the offensive line coaches watching that guy walking

1245
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: the door here and thinking, you know, I got a

1246
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: great piece of clay to work with, right, And you know,

1247
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: and the beauty of it is Ezra jumped out of

1248
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: his skin last year. And I believe, even with kind

1249
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: of a schematics change a little bit, that he's only

1250
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: going to improve. And he was the bomb in college,

1251
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: so I mean, seriously, he's supposed to get good in

1252
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: a hurry at any position, so I count on him.

1253
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: The tackles tandem of dry Saw and O'Neill, you know,

1254
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: when Christian plays three four or five, six, seven games

1255
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: in a row, and we know where O'Neil stands already,

1256
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: this is going to be one of the five best

1257
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: tackle kandem in the NFL. So you know they're not

1258
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: playing from behind with these offensive line to raftnicks A

1259
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: And if you had a guy like Philelee who actually

1260
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: did work his way into the starting lineup, you'd have

1261
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: guard tackle combinations there with guys that were six six

1262
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: or taller for all four positions. That's crazy, right. That's means,

1263
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: which means if Memphis happens to beat the Wolves in

1264
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: the postseason, then we can get our offensive line together

1265
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: and scrimmage the timber Wolves schools. We've got all these

1266
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: tall guys, well, Brian O'Neills the Delaware basketball player, Gatorway

1267
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: Player of the Year in high school. So at least

1268
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: we got a big that's six six that can slash,

1269
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: and they just put the other guys on the wing

1270
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: and tell them to shoot if they can. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a ken to elite slot receivers played collegiately at

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Speaker 1: liberty or quarterback because they got a guy that's named

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Speaker 1: Moulik Willis and I never had a chance to catch

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Speaker 1: any footballs from him. Maybe maybe I'll be playing football somewhere.

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Speaker 1: But I'm glad I'm not doing it anymore. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: these headaches are gone and my body feels great. So

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to be a part of the v and

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Speaker 1: crew and beyond. Not anew every now and then with you,

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Speaker 1: But how do you view success for the Vikings on

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Speaker 1: draft weekend? How do you view short term success for

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Speaker 1: this Minnesota Vikings team coming out of the weekend? From

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Speaker 1: a draft standpoint, term success is taking what is a

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Speaker 1: good to very good offense and making it very good

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Speaker 1: to elite every single week. I truly believe Kirk and

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Speaker 1: O'Connell are really going to click with each other, and

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Speaker 1: I think that we're going to get Kirk has improved

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Speaker 1: every single year he's played here, and so that means

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Speaker 1: there's no reason to believe there won't be an improvement

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Speaker 1: again this year. So that means taking what is good

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Speaker 1: to very good and making it very good to elite

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01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: and fortifying this offense and making it base and making

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Speaker 1: it as close to unstoppable as again. And then secondly,

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Speaker 1: it's getting players who can help you on special teams

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Speaker 1: and with that front seven for when you run a

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01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 1: four three or three four can just keep coming at

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Speaker 1: you in waves, and that means linebackers, that means three

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Speaker 1: techniques defensive. Then I feel pretty good about it into

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Speaker 1: four three. But it's just getting players who can help

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Speaker 1: you now and fit what you want to do and

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01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: are scholarly. I mean, it's the brain power within those

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Speaker 1: organization's pretty high. When it comes to Placia Dopo Menza,

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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell and a lot of people who are working,

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Speaker 1: including including Ryan Rickson immediately with the draft. So I

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Speaker 1: bet you that they draft a lot of scholars of

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Speaker 1: the game who may not be as fast or as

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Speaker 1: strong as everybody else, but they don't make as many mistakes.

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Speaker 1: And if you can get players who minimize mistakes, that's

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Speaker 1: how you win super Bowls. And I can only imagine

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01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: that you know, the pursuit of that process of getting

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Speaker 1: these young guys in with these older guys or guys

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Speaker 1: with wisdom that's already done it, and seeing how all

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Speaker 1: that meshes similar to how putting you and Jay on

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Speaker 1: a podcast with me having you guys to make me better,

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Speaker 1: how it all would mesh to the ultimate goal. So, PA,

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time today, right, But with that podcast piece,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're the one that brings it in and

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Speaker 1: brings it out. Clearly, we may be the Geezers and

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Speaker 1: we may be the elder statesman of the podcast, but

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the MVP, that's the kids gave Henderson. Pa,

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Speaker 1: I know you're driving. I hope you're not texting. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: you talking to us while you're on the road. Appreciate you, Pa,

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Speaker 1: always great to talk to. I'm gonna say, my guys, Jay,

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Speaker 1: you've known these guys longer than I have. But always

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Speaker 1: good to hear these guys's insight just coming into the

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Speaker 1: draft and then their reaction when the draft is over.

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Speaker 1: So always great insights from these guys. A lot of surprisers,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, from from especially Ben Lieber with with

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Speaker 1: some of his picks. I think the thing about Lieber's

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Speaker 1: picks is he could tell just how much he's agonizing

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Speaker 1: over all of this, just how how much time and effort,

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Speaker 1: and he prides himself on being able to get it right,

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Speaker 1: so I can't fault him for that. But but I

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Speaker 1: think with all four of these guys, the thing that

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Speaker 1: you really realize is there are some some top tier

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Speaker 1: names that everyone wants to see or is talking about

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Speaker 1: that they think is to happen. And then again kind

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Speaker 1: of the Adrian piece of the pie in the sky

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01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: of what happens if a tray bun walker falls down

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Speaker 1: that board and actually comes to you at twelve. So

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Speaker 1: the idea with all of these guys is basically it's

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Speaker 1: their way of saying, I think this is going to happen,

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01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: but nobody has a real true idea what the heck

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Speaker 1: is really going to happen this weekend. Those guys, I

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01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 1: mean they have they have great opinions, they have great insights,

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01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 1: and like you said with Lieber, he just wants to

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Speaker 1: get it right. Like all of these guys, they just

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Speaker 1: want to get it right. But more importantly, they're they're

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Speaker 1: excited just like we are. They're all going through the

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Speaker 1: exact same thing that we are, and the listeners are

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Speaker 1: of just trying to read the tea leaves as much

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Speaker 1: as possible, and ultimately you just don't know how things

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Speaker 1: are graded out in the way all the different teams

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Speaker 1: are graded out, but in the end, everyone wants to

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Speaker 1: see their team get better on draft weekend being able

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Speaker 1: to pick some top tier blue chip talent forty eight

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Speaker 1: hours in ticking to go before the newest member of

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings we get selected in Las Vegas for

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Speaker 1: Roger Goodee. Vikings fans, stay tuned. We will have a

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Speaker 1: podcast Thursday night following the draft, So looking forward to

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Speaker 1: waking up with you guys and standing up late with

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Speaker 1: you guys. In the meantime for Jay Nelson, Paul Allen, Pete,

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Speaker 1: burst has been liber Ron Johnson and the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Famer John Randall, and for Tatum Everett, who's Vegas right now.

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Speaker 1: My name is Gabe Henderson. Thank you again for listening

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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Minnesota Vikings Podcast