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Speaker 1: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcastle's Guy, John Annick,

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian. Oh my god, you're your hosts, John Annick

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Speaker 1: and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: Ah double pay or time and a half at least

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Speaker 2: for the flow today. A good labor day too, you. Monday,

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Speaker 2: September Third Big fight week forthcoming. This is episode one

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Speaker 2: sixty nine of the Anak and Florian Podcast. Dodge and

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Speaker 2: Tropical Storm Gordon down here in South Florida, Kid Kenth.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the Weather channel today,

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Speaker 2: but so far the Wi FI is holding up. Rain

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Speaker 2: not too bad, no hurricane designation yet. But these things

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Speaker 2: just appear out of nowhere here in South Flora. I

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Speaker 2: probably got to move at some point, I think.

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Speaker 3: Dude, I'm glad you're I'm glad you're still there. You

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Speaker 3: haven't flown away. That is good news.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know, listen, man, there's always a thing over there

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Speaker 3: in Florida and hurricanes and rain and wait. I felt

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Speaker 3: a little earthquake yesterday. It was tiny, but we have

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Speaker 3: that over here. But that's it's not as dangerous, feel

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Speaker 3: like as a hurricane. Or maybe maybe I'm wrong. There's

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Speaker 3: a big one.

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Speaker 2: I mean there are. Everyone has their issues, right, they

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Speaker 2: got scorpions and Arizona and everything else. But we had

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Speaker 2: a roofer come to our house within the last week

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Speaker 2: and his advice to my wife basically was to move

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Speaker 2: out of state. Right, not what you're looking for from

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Speaker 2: your roof.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: We didn't even have a leak too, right, It was

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Speaker 2: a plumbing issue. And he's still telling us to get

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Speaker 2: the hell out of here. So most American adults, I think,

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Speaker 2: have a pretty good working knowledge, Kenny, of what Labor

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Speaker 2: Day is all about. I mean, I think we screw

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Speaker 2: up Memorial Day in Veterans Day maybe from time to

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Speaker 2: time in terms of what those holidays really mean. Today

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Speaker 2: really is just a celebration of the American worker. And

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Speaker 2: I know Canada celebrates Labor Day as well. But kemflow,

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're working, kid, I mean we're here, We're lot.

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Speaker 3: And I find it totally ironic that the one time

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Speaker 3: that I could actually sleep in and relax today, Oh,

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Speaker 3: I got up at like three am and could not

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Speaker 3: go back to sleep. I think I was so excited

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Speaker 3: to talk to you man.

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Speaker 2: I doubt it was that. But you know, a lot

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Speaker 2: of holidays do fall on Mondays and most UFC fight

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Speaker 2: weeks of begin on Monday, so this is a work

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Speaker 2: day in every sense for me. And I noticed when

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Speaker 2: you didn't reply to my email. I was like, hopefully

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Speaker 2: flows not too mad that I made a bang it

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Speaker 2: in here on Labor Day. But a last we are here,

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Speaker 2: and as I said, off the top, man, we have

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Speaker 2: a big one this weekend, Kenny, Tyron Woodley Darren Till

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Speaker 2: for the UFC's welterweight title. Kamara Usman potentially on standby here,

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Speaker 2: but that is neither here nor there. I know you're

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Speaker 2: gonna save your prediction for later in the show, at

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Speaker 2: least off the top. I want to say, Darren Till

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Speaker 2: is getting respect from Las Vegas. He seems to be

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Speaker 2: getting respect from the public betters out there. This is

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Speaker 2: a very close fight on paper, and someone even said

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Speaker 2: to me that Till briefly crossed into favored territory over

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Speaker 2: the weekend, But at least this morning when I checked it,

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Speaker 2: Tyron Woodley was still the slight betting favorite. Now I've

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Speaker 2: said from the outset, Kenny, I think this fight has

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Speaker 2: a chance to play out in a tactical, technical, strategic fashion,

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Speaker 2: not unlike the second meeting between Stephen wonder Boy Thompson

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Speaker 2: not saying we're getting twenty five minutes and it's and

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Speaker 4: I agree with you ver.

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Speaker 3: I think both guys have showed a patience and a

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Speaker 3: as did Darren Till. Now, both these guys do have

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Speaker 3: Darren Till you can see that he does his homework,

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Speaker 3: because you know, everyone talks about how explosive and how

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Speaker 4: And I agree with him.

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Speaker 3: Tyron Woodley is a very smart guy and always comes

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Speaker 3: And Tyron has a ton of experience against self paw fighters,

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Speaker 3: which Darren Till is of course, you look at all

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Speaker 3: the guys he's fought. In fact, I think all the

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Speaker 3: Robbie Lawler, Kelvin Gastallum dunk Hill, Kim. So this is

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Speaker 3: a Tyron Woodley who was kind of fighting a very

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as far as Darren Till is concerned, Kenny and

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Speaker 2: I like the homework there. You know, it's not just

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Speaker 2: those guys deserve those comments from Darren Till. He has

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Speaker 2: also said when he moves up to middleweight, which is

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Speaker 2: work his way up at one hundred and eighty five pounds.

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Speaker 2: All of that set the elephant in the room is

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Speaker 2: fight week for Darren Till, which has arrived. He says

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Speaker 2: it is a story.

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Speaker 3: It is very much a story and you know, I

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Speaker 3: I think this is a guy at twenty five years

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Speaker 3: well on fight night after making weight. And those are

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Speaker 3: well at that weight?

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Speaker 4: I made one hundred and forty five pounds. I made

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Speaker 3: I felt terrible on fight night both times, you know,

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Speaker 3: So it's it's tough, you know, so darn till If

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Speaker 4: I believe he does have the motivation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you see that everything he talks about in his interviews.

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Speaker 3: Is he in the right weight class though I'm not

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Speaker 3: for sure, Darren Till does have a lot to prove.

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Speaker 3: I think he knows that, and he needs to make

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Speaker 2: Fight, right, No. He wants to make sure that he

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Speaker 2: And given his struggles against Stephen Warner Boy Thompson in

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Speaker 2: Like when you competed at fifty five. Forget the featherweight

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Speaker 2: But when you competed at fifty five, I know there

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Speaker 2: Like how much variance was there from cut to cut

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Speaker 3: And again anytime it was a title fight, things were

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Speaker 4: I would almost go too hard.

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Speaker 3: I remember when I was fighting DJ Penn, I was

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Speaker 3: got too excited for that fight. I was training way

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Speaker 4: And now you look at the process, it is so

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Speaker 3: We know so much more about nutrition and weightcutting and

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Speaker 3: This was working for me at the regional level, or

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you take your trust and your career and your

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Speaker 2: But you stay ready and these high profile opportunities do materialize,

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Speaker 1: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minutes.

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to punch a hole in this fucking

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Speaker 1: With the Ray Longo minute during Ray long the John

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Speaker 2: Well man, is it a big twelve day stretch for

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Speaker 2: Raymond Peter Longo. Somehow on the Labor day Holloway found

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Speaker 5: Anything for you guys on lisdis Yeah, full house outside

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Speaker 6: Nobody stops training, but we got to do a podcast.

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Speaker 2: How's Aljamain doing?

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Speaker 5: No, No, look, you could listen to whatever he wants.

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Speaker 5: up great. You know, you were talking about Zabat before

436
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Speaker 5: I got on, and that's true. I've seen za beat

437
00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,680
Speaker 5: in the gym. He's operating at about twenty percent of

438
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Speaker 5: what he could do. That this guy is the limit

439
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Speaker 5: for that kid.

440
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Speaker 6: He's phenomenal. And I think al Jo too.

441
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Speaker 5: If al Jo does some of the things he does

442
00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,840
Speaker 5: in the gym, you will one hundred percent see a

443
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Speaker 5: different guy. Now. Whether I could get him to that point,

444
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,399
Speaker 5: I think he's grown with every fight and I think

445
00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,119
Speaker 5: there's another great growing fight for al Jo.

446
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Speaker 6: So we'll see. But he's he's ready to go. He's excited,

447
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:32,840
Speaker 6: and he had a great camp.

448
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Speaker 2: If I was in like a fantasy MMA league and

449
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Speaker 2: I'm not, and you could keep fighters on your team

450
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Speaker 2: for four to five years. I mean al Ja man

451
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Speaker 2: Sterling would be one of the guys that I would

452
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Speaker 2: target at vantamweight because I think his ceiling is UFC championship,

453
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,160
Speaker 2: not unlike zabeat Mago met Shripov real quick in terms

454
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Speaker 2: of the common opponent Brian Caraway. Is that film any

455
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Speaker 2: more useful to you because you've prepared for that guy?

456
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Speaker 2: I know al Jo's fight with him was a long

457
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,480
Speaker 2: time ago and it was close, as was Staman's fight

458
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Speaker 2: with him. But is that film any more useful because

459
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Speaker 2: you have prepared for that fighter or not at all?

460
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Speaker 7: No?

461
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Speaker 5: No, I think we looked at that fight it was useful,

462
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 5: and you gotta remember man Caraway's a guy, you know.

463
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Speaker 5: I don't know if he's underrated, but he's got a

464
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Speaker 5: shitload of experience, you know what I mean. I think

465
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 5: he's probably another guy that does things in the gym.

466
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Speaker 5: He's a steady eddy guy that you know, and on

467
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Speaker 5: any given day he could probably beat you know, most people,

468
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So I think that was

469
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Speaker 5: a good take to look at, and I think we

470
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Speaker 5: knew what al Jo did. He went for that submission

471
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Speaker 5: early in the first round, which was you know, he

472
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Speaker 5: held on he kind of gassed his arms out and

473
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Speaker 5: then he had a makeup from there.

474
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Speaker 6: But that still was that fight. You know, I would

475
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Speaker 6: have thought al Joe won that fight.

476
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Speaker 7: But you know what it is.

477
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Speaker 6: I mean, those decisions are closed. They could go either way.

478
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Speaker 7: You know.

479
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Speaker 6: If you tell me Caraway one fine, you know, tell

480
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Speaker 6: me Aljoel one fine. But I thought it was a

481
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Speaker 6: good tape to look at.

482
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Speaker 5: It's a good gauge and I thought, uh, Caraway actually

483
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,399
Speaker 5: won the fight with uh with Cody.

484
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Speaker 2: So you know, So, so when do you travel the mind?

485
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 2: Are you going straight from Dallas to Russia? Are you

486
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Speaker 2: going home for a night?

487
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Speaker 6: No, I'm going home. We're gonna probably and I think

488
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Speaker 6: we'll leave on Wednesday.

489
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Speaker 2: Oh so you're not gonna miss the show next week? No, No,

490
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Speaker 2: we're on Okay, all right?

491
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Speaker 6: Can I what do you talk? Is a business? All right?

492
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Speaker 6: I'm yeah, No, I depends on this goddamn podcast.

493
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Speaker 4: Hi.

494
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Speaker 6: Well, we're gonna get to your foreclosure right now.

495
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Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna get to the money and your

496
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 2: prediction in a second. But I just want to let

497
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Speaker 2: our listeners know that any money that Ray makes on

498
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 2: this show is going to be added to his massive

499
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 2: holiday bonus at the end of the year. So again

500
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 2: this is house money. This is not as though we're

501
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Speaker 2: taking money that Ray has earned away from him. But

502
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 2: you know, I did prep all my stuff on Morob

503
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Speaker 2: Devolish Billy and how big a fight that is for

504
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 2: him against Terry on Ware. But I'm going to table

505
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 2: that for next week and I'm gonna get to your

506
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Speaker 2: budget if that's okay. It is two hundred and fifty

507
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 2: dollars that has provided you do make it to Russia

508
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Speaker 2: to corner Morob Devolish Philly on September fifteenth, and then

509
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Speaker 2: you return home safely today though another chance you get

510
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 2: two to one odds as usual. So Tyron Woodley, Darren

511
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 2: Till very close on paper. You pick the winner correctly,

512
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 2: you get one hundred dollars. You don't pick the winner correctly,

513
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Speaker 2: we get fifty back.

514
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Speaker 3: Man.

515
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is just set up for you to

516
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 2: have success, Tyron Woodley or Darren Till. And how do

517
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Speaker 2: they get it done?

518
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Speaker 6: All right?

519
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 5: Give me the Jeopardy thing done at least twenty second.

520
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 5: Kenny helped me out.

521
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 3: But good, we just got fined by Jeopardy. Now we're

522
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Speaker 3: out of business. That's great, Thank you for so.

523
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Speaker 6: I Look, I love Woodley. I'd like him to win,

524
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Speaker 6: but I'm gonna go with Till.

525
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Speaker 2: I knew it. I knew it.

526
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Speaker 5: I knew he's too big, and I think if he

527
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Speaker 5: sits on the fence with this kid, or he gets

528
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 5: caught rushing in with that blitz, it could be a problem.

529
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Speaker 5: So I'm gonna go with looks like he's got the momentum.

530
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Speaker 5: He's been active again. I'd like Woodley to win because

531
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Speaker 5: I like him. I think he's a great analyst, He's

532
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 5: he's an intelligent dude. He's a great fighter. But I

533
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 5: think this kid might be too big and it's just

534
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 5: his time, all right.

535
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Speaker 2: For an extra fifty dollars, give me the round. For

536
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: an extra fifty I'm yeah, but this free money. You

537
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: don't have to give us anything back. Give me the round.

538
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Speaker 2: You're picking, Darren Till present round three, Round three, Okay.

539
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Speaker 2: Because Kenny and I were talking off the top of

540
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Speaker 2: the show that you know, I wasn't in love with

541
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Speaker 2: the second meeting between Steven Wanner, Boy Thompson and Tyron Woodley,

542
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Speaker 2: and the Till Thompson fight was strategic in a lot

543
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Speaker 2: of ways, I would be surprised if we get twenty

544
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Speaker 2: five minutes here, to be honest with you, but we'll see.

545
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's gonna be I think this other

546
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 5: kid's gonna bring it different. He's a different fighter than

547
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 5: Wonder Boy. He's more of a pressure fighter, not a counterfighter,

548
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 5: and I think he could do both. But I think

549
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 5: he's going to try to impose his size and it

550
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Speaker 5: really just depends on who controls the range of that fight.

551
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Speaker 5: So whatever, we'll see, Like it always comes down to,

552
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 5: but uh, yeah, I think this kid looks like he's

553
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 5: he's got the momentum. Now, he's got the confidence, and

554
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 5: he's a big kid, and he hits hard, and you know,

555
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 5: we'll see if his chin holds up. I think he's

556
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 5: gonna be fine.

557
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Speaker 3: And Ray, you make a good point because if it

558
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Speaker 3: is a strategic fight, and they are kind of it

559
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 3: is about finding that range. Dar un till the taller,

560
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 3: longer fighter, you have to think it's probably gonna favor him.

561
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And I think it makes a difference because

562
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 5: he's not like Won the boy gets you with those

563
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 5: tricky kicks from the outside. This guy's gonna be a

564
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 5: little more in your face, and if that fight ends

565
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Speaker 5: up in the pocket, it could be, you know, firstest

566
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Speaker 5: with the mostest is the bestest.

567
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Speaker 6: But we'll see.

568
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Speaker 5: I think he's a young kid with probably a good chin,

569
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Speaker 5: and I think that's gonna be the difference in the

570
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Speaker 5: fight to me.

571
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Speaker 6: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for your time, man, sincerely. I know

573
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Speaker 2: it's a busy stretch, I mean too busy to get

574
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Speaker 2: a haircut. If you don't get a haircut between now

575
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Speaker 2: and moscatt, what a treat for I gotta.

576
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Speaker 6: Tell you, you know what's weird. I got a haircut

577
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Speaker 6: two weeks ago.

578
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Speaker 2: My head is.

579
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Speaker 6: Growing like crazy.

580
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Speaker 4: That's a good thing. That's a good thing.

581
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Speaker 6: That's a good thing.

582
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Speaker 5: Yeah, telling you, I don't know if I can get

583
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Speaker 5: one in this week. I'll try, But it was two

584
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 5: weeks ago when I was like, I figured that would

585
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 5: do it. But it's like stink weeds.

586
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: And it gets his haircut every three days. So I'm

587
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: telling you, I cut it myself every four days. Ken

588
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 2: Flow and I get our noses waxed, I mean get old.

589
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Speaker 6: I could see that. That's just that that even that

590
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 6: thought makes me sick.

591
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I donate my nose hair though I always put

592
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Speaker 4: it to a good charity. It puts a good cause.

593
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Speaker 5: I'm going to post a picture of me as Elvis

594
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Speaker 5: in the eighties and yeah, you don't have anything on

595
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Speaker 5: me with those glasses, John, I know.

596
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Speaker 6: Your Elvis glasses are gone.

597
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: Oh they were retired mercifully after one week. All right,

598
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Speaker 2: go cool off, my man. Thank you for the time,

599
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 2: have a good holiday.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week. All right. There he

602
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Speaker 2: is Ray long ago with us here on the Nican

603
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: Floring podcast. There was something in there that I wanted

604
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Speaker 2: to circle back to. If I think of it, I

605
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Speaker 2: will go back to it. But we are thirty three

606
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 2: days out. By the way, Ken Flow beating Normago Metaf

607
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Speaker 2: Connor McGregor. Interesting comments from Kevin lead to MMA Junkie Radio.

608
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you caught them, but just sort

609
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: of talked about some of the holes that he sees

610
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: on film from Kabibnrmago, Metov and he sees the same

611
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: holes he saw two or three years ago. Here's a

612
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: direct quote from Kevin Leon Kabib. If you look at

613
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Speaker 2: his film, his actual stand up wrestling and transition game

614
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: is trash. Now you know, Kevin Lee is going to

615
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 2: bring it action, words everything else. I think those words

616
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: are probably a little bit strong here, But nonetheless, a

617
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Speaker 2: lightweight who has spent the bulk of his career studying

618
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Speaker 2: the likes of Connor McGregor and kabibnr Mago Mettov with

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Speaker 2: the hopes of one day challenging one of those two

620
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Speaker 2: men would have to know a little bit about what

621
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Speaker 2: he's talking about. And he just was maybe echoing some

622
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: surprise that some of those holes that he perceives defensively

623
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Speaker 2: have not been short up to this point.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting because Kevin has probably the only guy who

625
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Speaker 3: has really been asking for a fight with Habib Nrmago

626
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: Meta before he was the champion, he always felt that

627
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 3: he matched up very well against Habib. Do I agree

628
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Speaker 3: that his stand up transition into wrestling is trash, absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this guy is undefeated for a reason. I

630
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: think he's one of the few guys who really doesn't

631
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 3: take a whole lot of damage. And yes, we saw,

632
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: you know, vulnerabilities in some of his fights. He is

633
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: not a perfect fighter. There is no perfect fighter that

634
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: exists in the world today. But yeah, I don't agree

635
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 3: with him that Habib is trash.

636
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 4: In that regard.

637
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 3: If anything, I think he has one of the best

638
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: grappling games period and takes minimum damage. And that's why

639
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: Habib it doesn't matter who he faces, He's always gonna

640
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 3: come in the exact same way.

641
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 4: In a lot of ways.

642
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: He has raised the bar as far as wrestling in

643
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: the UFC because he doesn't You don't see him shooting

644
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 3: at the legs very often. He typically gets that fifty

645
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 3: to fifty or that clinch, then goes for the legs,

646
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 3: which is much safer, which does not allow for the

647
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 3: most dangerous counter in the game, which is that knee,

648
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: to take place. So he's never in that range. So

649
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 3: I disagree with Kevin there. I think Kevin is trying

650
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: to spark up interest. He wants that fight against Habib

651
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: Narmogo Metoff. I don't know if that's the best fight

652
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: for him, but he obviously sees something that maybe a

653
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Speaker 3: lot of people don't.

654
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Speaker 2: And if Kabib's training and those reports are any indication,

655
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: over the course of his UFC career, he still hasn't

656
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: put his best work on film inside the octagon right.

657
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: As great as the Barboza performance was and some other

658
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: fights for Kabib Normago Medov. The best seemingly is still

659
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: yet to come, which is obviously a difficult proposition for

660
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 2: Kevin Lee, for Connor and everybody else at one hundred

661
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 2: and fifty five pounds. So I remembered what I wanted

662
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: to circle back to. It was the nosewax right, So

663
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: if you are a man of forty or younger and

664
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: you have never had your nose waxed, just be ready

665
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: for that first one because your eyes are going to tear.

666
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: Hopefully your nose won't bleed. But ken Flow actually did it.

667
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't remember very much, but I

668
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: remember that you once tried. See I go to the

669
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: European Wax Center. I do this professionally. You tried to

670
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: do the shit at home. If I'm not mistaken, I

671
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: think so.

672
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I've said do you want to try this?

673
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: And yeah, now I just clip them. But it was

674
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: very painful. I've done it a few times. And I

675
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 3: don't know why I'm talking about this right now. This

676
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: is disgusting, but it was very painful. John, I definitely

677
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: cared a little bit.

678
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: Well, one guy who's way too handsome and well cap

679
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: doesn't need anything to do with the nosewax. Our next guest,

680
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: one of the top ten bandon weights in the world,

681
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: this Saturday night, makes his fourth UFC appearance at UFC

682
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: two twenty eight against al Jamaine Sterling. Cody Stateman is

683
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: with us. Cody, appreciate your time here, man. I know

684
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: it's fight week. I know it's busy. Thanks for joining

685
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: us today, sir.

686
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 7: You know, man, thanks for having me.

687
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: Well, it's all pleasure a long time.

688
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 7: I appreciate it.

689
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: That's tough. Well, hey man, I know you fought Tom

690
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: Dukane while and everybody was talking about how handsome that

691
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: guy was. I was thinking, can we give some love

692
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: to Cody Staman for a second. So, it seems like

693
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: you've been making more media rounds than normal in advance

694
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: of this fight. I know it's a high profile fight.

695
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: Are you enjoying that part of the process or for

696
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: a guy like yous that sort of just an inconvenient

697
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: truth of becoming a UFC contenter.

698
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 7: No, you know, I I enjoy doing it. I think it.

699
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 7: I think it honestly. It helps me mentally, kind of

700
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 7: just reassuring myself, you know what I'm gonna do when

701
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 7: I get in the cage and you know, I like

702
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 7: talking with shit. I haven't really had the opportunities to

703
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 7: do it in the past, and there was really no

704
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 7: there's no benefit from it. But now I think I'm

705
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 7: in a point where, you know, the schook wheel is

706
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 7: going to get the grease. You know, I need to start,

707
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 7: you know, doing what I can to separate myself from

708
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 7: everybody else in the pack.

709
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: All right, well, before we spin it too far forward,

710
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: let's talk about what we have in store this weekend.

711
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: You draw Al Jamaine Sterling. He's got ten UFC fights

712
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: to his credit. Of course, Ray Long goes on our

713
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: podcast here every week, so we know him. We know

714
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: Al Joe. Well, I know you're as confident as any

715
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: bandam weight on this roster. But I got to think

716
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 2: at least Al Joe has your attention and your respect

717
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: in terms of what he brings to the table. No.

718
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 7: Absolutely, yeah, I respect him as the athlete, you know.

719
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 7: I think you know, obviously he's very skilled and skilled everywhere,

720
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 7: and you know I prepare for that though. You know,

721
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 7: I thought Bran Frank Carroway was the same the same

722
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 7: exact way. You know, I think I think I'm on

723
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 7: the level that these guys are on though. That's the thing.

724
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 7: I used to look up to these guys and kind

725
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 7: of idolize them and just think, Wow, man, they're so good.

726
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 7: They're they're uh, you know, they're the absolute best. And

727
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 7: now I just I have a real strong belief that,

728
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 7: you know, I am on the level that these guys are.

729
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 7: You know, obviously I don't have the I don't have

730
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 7: the fights under my belt, but man, I had, you know,

731
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 7: tons of amateur boxing experience, you know, hundreds of amateur

732
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 7: up their matches, you know, twenty amateur m m A

733
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 7: fights Like I've been a competitor for you know, fifteen

734
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 7: twenty years of my life in combat sports. So for me,

735
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 7: I don't uh, you know, I don't think that anybody's

736
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 7: going to bring more experience, you know, to the the

737
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 7: fighting realm than.

738
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Speaker 3: What I have. You know, Cody, you went and wrestled

739
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: at Grand Valley State University. Tony Ferguson was there, Kevin

740
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: Lee was there. Why are you guys producing so many

741
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: mixed martial artists out of there? I mean, is it

742
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 3: something where you guys are? Were you training with those guys?

743
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: Did you get inspired by those guys? Were those guys

744
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: inspired by you. What's the story behind that?

745
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 7: No, so Kevin. Kevin was after me and Tony was before.

746
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 6: I don't know.

747
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 7: It's a small program, you know. I wasn't there long.

748
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 7: I just think that, uh, the guys that ended up there,

749
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 7: you know, we're we're guys. Maybe that didn't that didn't

750
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 7: make it to that division I level. Maybe they made mistakes,

751
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 7: you know, as an amateur wrestler like I did. And

752
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 7: I don't know. I can't speak for Tony or Kevin,

753
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 7: but uh yeah, I think I think, you know, when

754
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 7: you don't you don't reach your goal as an amateur wrestler.

755
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 7: I think it kind of leads like this emptiness, and uh,

756
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 7: everyone was kind of looking for more, you know, That's

757
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 7: what I was. I mean, I I I competed for

758
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 7: so long and then they did not have that competition

759
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 7: aspect in my life. I just couldn't do it. I

760
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 7: was going nuts. So you know when MMA popped up,

761
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 7: I was I was all in.

762
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: You already beat a very experienced guy and Brian Caraway,

763
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: who has been a top ten in that division for

764
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: a long time. You beat al Jamaine Sterling, another guy

765
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: who's in the top ten where does that put you

766
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: in the division and how close to a title do

767
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: you think that is for you?

768
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: Ah?

769
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 7: Man, I mean there's a lot of dam at the

770
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 7: being of this division. I mean, who knows who is

771
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 7: the next guy? I mean I think there's maybe three

772
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 7: three guys that deserve that shot. You know, I just

773
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 7: want to keep winning big fights. I want to keep

774
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 7: moving forward, keeping moving my career forward, you know, building

775
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 7: a fan base. I don't have any problem fighting any

776
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 7: eye on the roster. I don't care number one or

777
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 7: number fifteen. You know, I'll fight anybody. And that's exactly

778
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 7: what I'm going to say after I not going to

779
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:52,719
Speaker 7: al Jamain Steling.

780
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: Cody statement with us here on the Anakin Florian podcast

781
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: fights al Jamaine Sterling this weekend. So we asked Ray

782
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: Longo earlier today if the Carraway fight was of any

783
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: added value because that is a common opponent. Obviously you

784
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: beat Brian, and he outpointed Sterling. I don't know how

785
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: much film you watch. Necessarily, I'd imagine you're more a

786
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: guy who focuses on all of his skills. But and

787
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: he added value to those particular fifteen minutes knowing that

788
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: it is a common opponent and a guy that you

789
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 2: both prepared for and fought for the full fifteen.

790
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean I've watched my fight against him, and

791
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 7: I've watched Algamin's fight against Careway. I think the main

792
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 7: difference was that, you know, Sterling let Careaway kind of

793
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 7: break him at the end of the fight. You know,

794
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 7: they were they were one to one going into that

795
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 7: third round, and you know, I did what I had

796
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 7: to do to win, and you know Sterling didn't. So

797
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 7: I think more than a skill thing, I think it's

798
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 7: a mental thing. I think, you know, when when he

799
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 7: gets he gets in up to his neck, I think

800
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 7: he tends to pull back a little bit where you know,

801
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 7: I'm hitting the guests. But at that point, and I

802
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 7: have a hard time, you know, comparing the Carreaway fight

803
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 7: to to anything I've done in my career. I mean,

804
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 7: I went into that fight really banged up. That was

805
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 7: a fight that you know, maybe I shouldn't have competed in,

806
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 7: you know, having sustained some pretty serious injuries in my

807
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 7: training camp, you know, so I feel like I was

808
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 7: hitting on you know, riding sixty percent, you know, and

809
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 7: I still went out there and did what I had

810
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 7: to do. You know, with the limited you know, abilities

811
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 7: that I had, so moving forward into this fight, you know,

812
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 7: it's like I'm I'm, I'm you know, I've I've improved everywhere,

813
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 7: and you know, I've only been in the UFC for

814
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 7: a year, so I'm not a really guy. That's peak.

815
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 7: I think, you know, the best coding team is always

816
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 7: going to be the next one. So I think you know,

817
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 7: I'm going to be a lot better fighter than I

818
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 7: was when I fought Careaway.

819
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: That's interesting to hear because I know you're not an

820
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: excuse maker, but it was a very busy fourth quarter

821
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 2: of twenty seventeen for you, and then a relatively quick

822
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 2: turn and then some injuries in training camp for the

823
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: Caraway fights. So you know from our private conversation that

824
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: I've never been more excited about the Bandam weight division,

825
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: and you're certainly part of that enthusiasm. I know you're

826
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: only twenty eight years old. I know you're just getting started,

827
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: but couldn't have been thrilled Cody to see Henry Sohudo's

828
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: name injected into this already crowded mix of contenders a

829
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 2: few weeks ago.

830
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, that's that's a funny one. I've been

831
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 7: asked the question quite a few times. But my thing is,

832
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 7: you know, in like where I am in my career,

833
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 7: you know, I think I'm still you know, two three

834
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 7: fights away from you know, that title shot. So for me,

835
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 7: these guys, you know, I'm not there yet, so everyone's

836
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 7: gonna have to fight off. You know what bothers more

837
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 7: than sehudo is the fact that you know, there's three

838
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 7: four guys that all think that they are the next

839
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 7: guy to get the title shot. Why not fight off?

840
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 7: Why not find out? You know why I have a

841
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 7: little four man tournament at the top and figure out,

842
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 7: you know who is, you know, the number one contender,

843
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 7: you know, because everyone's holding out waiting for their shot.

844
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 7: But realistically, you know, I don't think there's one guy

845
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 7: that deserves it more than the other guy. You know,

846
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 7: Dominic Cruz feel like he should get that automatic shout, Well,

847
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 7: I think he should fight Marius. I think there should

848
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 7: be some kind of some kind of fight off. I

849
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 7: think it's a mess. And then I really don't know

850
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 7: how the US he's going to handle it.

851
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it is, man, it really is. And maybe

852
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: TJ would go down to one hundred and twenty five pounds.

853
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: But that's not bringing clarity to the bandamweight division. That's

854
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: just holding up the belt. But I agree with but

855
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: Ice and Cruise and a Sun Souw, there are a

856
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: lot of names and potentially you could set something up

857
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: on the same night the belt. Well, I guess it

858
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: wouldn't be the same night the belt as there all right.

859
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: A couple more minutes here with Cody Stamen. So you

860
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: did a session on Red at MMA recently. Here's a

861
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 2: quote from you about getting into combat sports or something

862
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: to that end. When I was eight years old, I

863
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: punched this three hundred pound guy in the nuts for

864
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: looking at my mom the wrong way. And since then

865
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: it's been on. So you just sort of had the

866
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 2: fighting instinct. This dude's looking at your mom the wrong way.

867
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: I mean, and I have a daughter who's seven. I

868
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 2: wish you would come to my defense in a year,

869
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: but I just don't see it. So eight years old,

870
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: you just take no prisoners, punch the guy right in

871
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: the nuts.

872
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

873
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 7: I've kind of always had a bigger balls than my brain.

874
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 7: I guess you could say. I I've never been I've

875
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 7: never been one that that shied away from a fight.

876
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 7: You know, I was a fat, short, buck toothed little kid,

877
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 7: so imagine people were always trying to bully me. But

878
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 7: I wasn't really the guy that allowed that to happen. Yeah,

879
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think. I think some people are

880
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 7: just they have that, they have that in them. You know,

881
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 7: some guys are just are just fighters. You know. I

882
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 7: know people that can, you know, talk their way out

883
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 7: of any bad situation.

884
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 5: Uh.

885
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 7: And you know, I'm envious to them. But for me,

886
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 7: it's it's not that I don't have that ability. I

887
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 7: just you know, I want I want to I want

888
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 7: to throw down.

889
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 6: Yeah.

890
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: Well no, and that has certainly worked out for you

891
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: seventeen and one in m m A three and oh

892
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: in the UFC last thing, h Leroy and I believe

893
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: your Michigan top team teammates suffered a serious injury over

894
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: the weekend at another MMA event. He got knocked out

895
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: by a knee when face first, Kenny, I don't know

896
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: if you saw. He went face first to the canvas

897
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: right along the fence, which which didn't make matters any better.

898
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: He needed emergency vertebrate surgery. Cody. I know he's obviously

899
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: been in your thoughts since Saturday. Any idea how Lee

900
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: Roy's doing.

901
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 7: So, I think he had a second surgery. I believe

902
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 7: he's still on a on a ventilator, so i'd imagine

903
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 7: he's pretty heavily sedated. You know, I don't know too much.

904
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 7: I'm trying not to bug his girlfriend too much, uh,

905
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 7: you know, because I know she's got a lot on

906
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 7: her plate right now. You know, I'm just praying for

907
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 7: the guy because realistically, you know, this could happen to anyone.

908
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 7: You know, this is a pretty unforgiving sport. You know,

909
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 7: anybody can can suffer a serious injury at any point

910
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 7: in a fight. So, you know, just praying for him

911
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 7: and hoping that he gets the sport he needs and

912
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 7: he comes out of this without any you know, life

913
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 7: altering injuries.

914
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, Well put all right, Cody, stayman, Al Jamaine Sterling.

915
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: You can see it on FX this weekend. And I

916
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 2: feel like if you beat Al Joe and you put

917
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: him away, I mean, really, any call out is reasonable

918
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: At this point in time. You're in the top ten

919
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 2: already and you deserve to be there. You can see

920
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: the fight on FX this weekend. Cody, Thanks for the time, man.

921
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: Look forward to catching up in Dallas in a few days.

922
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 7: Bud, thank you, yep, thanks so much.

923
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 4: Guys.

924
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: All right, Cody Staman with us here on the Anakin

925
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: Florian podcast and Kenny just sort of a freak injury.

926
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: And you know, sometimes I get on my soapbox talking

927
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: about other sports being more dangerous or more violent than

928
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: mixed martial arts and some of the superficial violence in

929
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: our sport because of the way the face bleeds and

930
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: everything else. But the fence seemed to be a factor

931
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: here in this instance with Leroy Johnson. He was knocked

932
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: out before he hit the canvas, and as he was

933
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: going down, maybe the head clip the fence and that

934
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: resulted in something in the neck or the back. But

935
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: you know, he's managed by our buddy Danny Rube. He's

936
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: thirty eight years old as Leroy Johnson, and maybe thought

937
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: could eventually work his way to the UFC. And now

938
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: just praying that you know, he can return to health

939
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: and relatively quickly here after what happened this weekend. I

940
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: did not hear about that story, and I did not

941
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: know that our buddy Danny represented him. Our prayers go

942
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: out to him, man that that is awful, and that's

943
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: that's the most dangerous thing.

944
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 4: People think, you know, oh crazy knockout.

945
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: Everybody gets excited and you know, slaps hands and shakes

946
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: hands and gets off.

947
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 4: But that's the most dangerous point of the fight at

948
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 4: the same time.

949
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 3: So scary stuff there, and I hope he makes a

950
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: full recovery as quickly as possible.

951
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: All Right, good stuff from Cody Staman. Not in any

952
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: rush in terms of the Banham weight packing order, which

953
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: I certainly understand, right, But it is interesting when you

954
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: look at that top ten on paper and you try

955
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 2: to figure out how soon we might get some clarity.

956
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: Domina Cruz says, maybe November or December. But I don't know.

957
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: If I'm TJ. Dillashaw, as I've said repeatedly, I said,

958
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: if so, who do wants to fight? Let me go

959
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: down and be the guy to make the history. Right,

960
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: I'm the more decorated UFC champion. Why not if Delashaw

961
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: thinks he can make the way. Speaking of TJ. Dillashaw,

962
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 2: as you've heard us say over the last several weeks

963
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 2: on the show, UFC bantam way champ absolutely loves the fight,

964
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,520
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965
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966
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967
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968
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970
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971
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972
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973
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Speaker 2: Of course, they look great as well and are the

974
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975
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976
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Speaker 2: Toyotires dot com, slash UFC. All Right, two twenty eight

981
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: is upon us time to make some picks. Let us

982
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: get to the main Event Challenge. It's the main Event

983
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: challenge and it the time is most definitely.

984
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: Flori my fish fight.

985
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 4: How do you everything both well to.

986
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: Win the main event challenge to John Hennick and Kenny

987
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: Florian podcast.

988
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: All right, the lead for Team Attic one O two

989
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 2: to eighty nine and with us to make picks today.

990
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: Stepping up on short notice, Ken Flow, some interesting circumstances

991
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: this morning, our Australian guest picker flaked. Wow. So in

992
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: steps the great David Flannery representing South Dakota. David, you're

993
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: a good man, a longtime listener. We appreciate you stepping

994
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 2: up today.

995
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 8: My man, absolutely no problem.

996
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: And Ken Flow he's also a Brazilian jiu jitsu practitioner,

997
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: also at taking at the UFC's last live event in Lincoln,

998
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: Nebraska recently. So I think we chose well today with

999
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: David Flannery and let us get to it. So here's

1000
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 2: your UFC two to twenty eight fight card. Can flow

1001
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: an obnoxious fourteen fights on that card, but even the

1002
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 2: prelims are loaded. So we got nine picks to make today.

1003
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: Let's get to it. We start with the fight that

1004
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: easily could have landed on pay per view, Jimmy Rivera

1005
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: making a relatively quick turnaround. Here he was knocked out

1006
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: in thirty three seconds by the aforementioned Marlin but Ice.

1007
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: That was June one, and there went Rivera's twenty fight

1008
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 2: winning streak. Here he's slightly favored Modus one forty against

1009
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 2: the former two time flyweight world title challenger John Dodson,

1010
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: who comes back at plus one ten. All right, David,

1011
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: who do you like here? Rivera and Dodson at bandwidth?

1012
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 8: This should be a pretty interesting one. This is one

1013
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 8: I've kind of wanted to see for quite a while.

1014
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 8: Actually kind of real similar builds, fairly similar styles. Dodson's

1015
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 8: been kind of, you know, flipping back and forth wins

1016
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 8: and losses. Look not too bad in his last fight,

1017
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 8: but it was a split decision along with the one

1018
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 8: before that, so you could argue it out either way.

1019
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 8: And with Jimmy Rivera coming off that knockout to Marlon Morice,

1020
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 8: which essentially was his first relevant pro loss, he could

1021
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 8: pretty much call it his first loss. I don't know,

1022
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 8: you know, if that's going to mess with them mental

1023
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 8: or not, But either way, I am still gonna go

1024
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 8: with Rivera. I think he's gonna pull through. If I

1025
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 8: don't want to say fluke. I never want to say

1026
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 8: fluke about a headcake like that, but it was something

1027
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 8: that I think anybody, just about anybody in that situation

1028
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 8: probably would have got Kyle with. So I'm going Rivera

1029
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 8: probably by decision.

1030
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: I feel like Jimmy Rivera was texting the matchmakers Monday

1031
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: morning saying, I know I just got knocked out viciously,

1032
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 2: but you gotta find a way to get me back

1033
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: in there, and certainly they have done that. About three

1034
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: months since that last fight, Kenny Dotson's won two of

1035
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 2: his last three. The last four have gone to a decision.

1036
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: Actually six of his last seven have required the judges scorecards.

1037
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: What do you think of Dodson as a slight underdog

1038
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: here against Jimmy Rivera. Listen, I think he's gonna have

1039
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: the speed advantage. I think Dotson does a lot of

1040
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: things that are very frustrating for a fighter to face.

1041
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: I do think Jimmy Rivera's size advantage. I do think

1042
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 2: the fact that he's coming off a loss will actually

1043
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 2: help him hearing this one. He reads hands very well,

1044
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: but he doesn't rekick so well as we saw against

1045
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: Marlin Rice. I don't think Dotson is the threat with

1046
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 2: his legs. So I think Rivera is gonna win this one.

1047
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: Oh I like that analysis at Ben withsrek Watch. I'm

1048
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: gonna steal that from Kendalla. I'm stealing that on the

1049
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: broadcast this weekend. So Dotson comes in number seven in

1050
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 2: the world, Jimmy Rivera number five, so four of the

1051
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: top ten bandam weight. It's going to be in action

1052
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: on the prelims on FX. The other two, of course,

1053
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 2: Al Joe and Cody Staman, who have dominated this show.

1054
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: Here today it's number eight versus number ten. Aljoe the

1055
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: slight favorite minus one thirty five Stamen plus one, Zho

1056
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: five David, the floor is yours, al Joe or Cody?

1057
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: For you?

1058
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 7: Well, I'm just.

1059
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 8: Gonna lead off with I'm going with on this one.

1060
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 8: I'm going with Salgamine Sterling. I look back, you know,

1061
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 8: I was going back to Cody Stamens fights this morning,

1062
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 8: and both his last two fights or split decision wins,

1063
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 8: could have kind of gone either way. He looks pretty

1064
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 8: good against Brian Carroway towards the end there, but he

1065
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 8: was getting absolutely dominated on the ground in the first round,

1066
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 8: and definitely if there would have been more time, easily

1067
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 8: could have gotten finished. Brian Carrowy had him in a

1068
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 8: really compromising position. But looking back at al Jamin here,

1069
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 8: he also fell victim to Marlon Murrice here not too

1070
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 8: long ago with a pretty quick first round KO, and

1071
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 8: he seemed to bounce back really, really well against Brett Johns.

1072
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 8: And he's another guy where his two main losses back

1073
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 8: in the day here at what two of them sixteen

1074
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 8: two seventeen Brian Carroway and Hafela Sunso both split decisions,

1075
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 8: both could have been wins. This could be a you know,

1076
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 8: guy with one loss, and I think he's going to

1077
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 8: take it.

1078
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: Ken Falajo fifteen and three overall, seven and three in

1079
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 2: the UFC, He's won three of his last four overall.

1080
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 2: Seems like Staman's getting the Vegas respect here. I thought

1081
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: this would be a little bit wider given Aljo's UFC experience.

1082
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on this one. At one thirty five this weekend,

1083
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: I was.

1084
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 3: Hoping David was going to take the bait here, but no,

1085
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 3: he did not listen. I think Cody is very tough,

1086
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 3: he's a very good wrestler. He knows how to win rounds.

1087
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: But I do think that Sterling will have a huge

1088
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 3: advantage on the ground, and I don't think Damon is

1089
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 3: that big of a threat on the feet either. For Sterling,

1090
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 3: I think Stamen is only getting better.

1091
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 9: Uh.

1092
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 3: I think there's a guy that is going to be

1093
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 3: tough to take out of there. He's going to keep

1094
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 3: fighting the whole way. But I think Sterling matches up

1095
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 3: pretty well against Cody here. I have to go with

1096
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: Sterling as well.

1097
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 2: Massive reach advantage for Aljo as well. All right, next

1098
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: up your featured pre Lamont FFAX. This fight actually was

1099
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: initially slated to be on pay per view. A little

1100
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 2: bit of a shuffle with his upbeat Bogo metch Repov situation.

1101
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: Big fight nonetheless at strawweight Tatiana Suarez minus five point

1102
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: fifty the former champion Carla Aspars a big underdog here

1103
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: at plus four hundred David, what do you think of

1104
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 2: this one at one hundred and fifteen pounds.

1105
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, this is one of a few with.

1106
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: Real wide odds.

1107
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 8: You know, I'm going to be sticking with the favorite

1108
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 8: going to Tatiana Sarez. They're both wrestlers, and Carla as Sparza,

1109
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 8: I think is going to have a pretty good showing

1110
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 8: just based off of what Tatiana Sarz is be able

1111
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 8: to do to everybody she's really against, I think she's

1112
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 8: gonna be able to outdo or power wise on the feet.

1113
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 8: I don't know if this one will stay on the

1114
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 8: feet because they're both wrestlers, or if it's going to

1115
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 8: be pretty grappling heavy, but I think either way, I'm

1116
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 8: definitely meaning Tatiana Swarz in this one.

1117
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: Tatiana Suarez for David and Kenny. If you listen to

1118
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: this podcast, you know I do fancy Tatiana Suarrez a

1119
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 2: future UFC champion. All of that being said with respect

1120
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: to Alexa Grosso, Viviani Peda, and Amanda Cooper. Carla Esparza

1121
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 2: is a clear step up in competition, and even though

1122
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 2: she lost her last fight to Claudja Gadelia, I thought

1123
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: there was a lot of upside in that performance. Odds

1124
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: are wide. Your thoughts on this one here between Suarez

1125
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 2: and the former champ.

1126
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, in that last fight against Goodelia, I was really

1127
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 3: impressed in that loss with Carla Esparza that that was

1128
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 3: a fight that really was very close, and Isparza has

1129
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 3: very good takedowns, and I think that's what saved her

1130
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 3: in that last fight, and this is why this fight

1131
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 3: is a very difficult matchup for Asparza. Tachiana Suarez is

1132
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 3: a better wrestler, both in what we've seen and in pedigree.

1133
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 6: Uh.

1134
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 3: Suarez is gonna be taller, She's gonna be longer. I

1135
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 3: think she's dangerous, more dangerous as far as the submission

1136
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: game goes as well. Tough matchup fors Sparza. I gotta

1137
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 3: go with Suarez, who I agree with you, John, could

1138
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 3: be a future champ in that division.

1139
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 2: She gets Vegas respect as if she's the number one contender, right,

1140
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: I mean, she is a bigger favorite, albeit slightly than

1141
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: claud Jagadelia was against Carlos Sparza not all that long ago.

1142
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: So Swarz number nine in the world. Vegas is treating

1143
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: her like she is a top contender, and I don't

1144
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: know that she's all that far from it at least

1145
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: right now. All right, next selection for us, we'll stay

1146
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: in the straweight division. This the second fight you'll see

1147
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: on pay per view Saturday night. Jessica Onraj getting a

1148
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 2: whole lot of respect from Vegas as usual minus four

1149
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: to twenty five against the plus three to fifteen underdog

1150
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: Carolina Koval Kievich David title eliminator of sorts here, I

1151
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: would think at one hundred and fifteen pounds, who do

1152
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 2: you like?

1153
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree with that. I think this has got

1154
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 8: a good chance to be an entitle eliminator, especially if

1155
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 8: Androge is to pull that out. Now that Rosenaunis is

1156
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 8: in there as champ, I think she's got a good

1157
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 8: shot at getting back in there for another shot at

1158
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 8: the belt. And I do think that Androge is gonna

1159
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 8: take this one. I really like Carly Nicole Kievich, and

1160
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 8: she's showed quite a bit of really good game here,

1161
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 8: but it's been almost, I don't want to say scoofully striking,

1162
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 8: but she is pretty striking heavy, and I would not

1163
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 8: be shocked if it ends up turning out kind of

1164
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 8: like that Quadica Daila fight where she kind of got overpowered,

1165
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 8: just drugged to the ground and joke pretty quickly. I

1166
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 8: don't know if that'll be the case, but I'm pretty

1167
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 8: positive that Jessica and Droge is going to take this one.

1168
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 2: So this will be the fourteenth UFC appearance for Jessica

1169
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: Andrage that is the most among women in UFC history.

1170
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: Next up, Yoanna you jchek At eleven, so Androge four

1171
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 2: and away the most active woman since women debuted in

1172
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: the UFC back in twenty thirteen. On the other side,

1173
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: Kenny Coble Keievitch kind of quietly here has won two

1174
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 2: in a row. I thought she really showed some nice

1175
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 2: nasty against Police Harrigan. If she can make it three

1176
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: consecutive wins right here, because she does have a win

1177
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 2: over ros Nama Yunis, that could all of a sudden

1178
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 2: be the next title fight, So big opportunity for cobl Kievich.

1179
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: What do you think she does with it against Jess Gondrash.

1180
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 3: Well, this is a tough matchup for you know, I

1181
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 3: think Androge is one of the you know, you talk

1182
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 3: about Coble Kaevich showing some nastiness, well andrage is just

1183
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 3: too much nasty.

1184
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 4: I think for anyone in that division.

1185
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: She might not be the most skillful UH fighter in

1186
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 3: that division, but probably the nastiest. And as far as

1187
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 3: her conditioning and her strength, she's She's a rare breed

1188
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 3: for sure, and I think Androge is gonna lean heavily

1189
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 3: on that takedown. Coble Kaevich. I don't know if she

1190
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 3: has the counter wrestling to stop someone like a Jessica Androge.

1191
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 3: And I think coble Kievich does show some nastiness. I

1192
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 3: think she does have a lot of heart. But Androge,

1193
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 3: I think she matches up really well. I think Androge

1194
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: is gonna throw Covid Keevich all over the cage on

1195
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 3: Saturday night. And I think she's not that same submission

1196
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 3: threat that Covid Keavid should maybe fear. But as far

1197
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 3: as our ground and pound, her positioning, her ability to stay,

1198
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 3: honor andrage should take.

1199
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: This and over fifteen minutes. Man, is she a tough proposition.

1200
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: I got to think if you're a strawwaight contender with

1201
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: respect to the champion thug Rosanama Unis, you get a

1202
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 2: phone call from Mick Maynard or Shaan Shelby or Dana

1203
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: or anybody, the last name you want to hear at

1204
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteen pounds is Jessica Androge. You know

1205
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 2: she's five and one in the division. The only loss

1206
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 2: was her title fight against Joanna Young jcheck. But a

1207
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 2: lot of people think she is the toughest matchup for

1208
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: Rosanama Unis. And I think in this fight you have

1209
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 2: two very intriguing options for Rose Carolina, a woman who

1210
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: is on her ledger as a loss, and Jessica Andrage

1211
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: all the rage according to a lot of people, and

1212
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: somebody that Rose has never fought. So I wouldn't be

1213
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 2: surprised to see Saturday Night's winner be next for Rosnama

1214
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 2: Unis sor right co main event, Valentina Shevchenko has got

1215
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 2: to be the biggest favorite in terms of a UFC

1216
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 2: title challenger, unless there's something obvious I'm missing. She will

1217
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: walk first as a minus thirteen hundred favorite against the champion,

1218
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 2: Nico Montagno, who comes back at plus seven hundred. If

1219
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 2: you heard our show last week, you say Longo suggested

1220
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: he was surprised the Commission even approved this matchup given

1221
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: all of the combat sports experience of Valentino Schevchenko. I

1222
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 2: thought that was a stretch. I think a little bit disrespectful,

1223
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 2: even though not meant to beat to Nico Montango. But

1224
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: as far as this fight is concerned, it is a

1225
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: championship fights. We will need the round and the method

1226
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 2: of victory. David, who do you think leaves Dallas as

1227
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: the UFC Women's Flyway champ Montango or Chevchenko.

1228
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 8: Well, I don't know. I I with Longo like what

1229
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 8: you were pointing out.

1230
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 7: You know, it's probably it's a little bit of a stretch,

1231
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 7: but it's.

1232
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 8: Honestly, I was looking back to it, it's probably not

1233
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 8: even that bad as far as Wongo's point of view.

1234
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 8: I was looking back fifty eight kickboxing fights, two pro

1235
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 8: boxing fights ATMMA fights. And then you look at Nico

1236
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 8: Montano with what she got six and I think she

1237
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 8: had one or two or three fights on Alphon fighter.

1238
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 8: That is a huge, huge, huge gap. And I see

1239
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 8: why Vegas is liking Chevchenko so much. I just don't

1240
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 8: know that Nico Montango is gonna have a lot of

1241
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 8: answers for Valentina Shevchenko on the feet or on the ground. Really,

1242
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 8: I think it's gonna be pretty one sided, unfortunately for Montano.

1243
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 8: I am looking at a second round TKO for Valentina Chepchenko, round.

1244
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: Two TKO, the pick from David for Valentina Chevchenko, and

1245
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: you set up some of her credentials. So she's five

1246
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 2: and two in the UFC. The only losses, of course

1247
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: by decision to Amanda Nunez. But so many championship situations

1248
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 2: for Valentina Chevchenko main event spots on Fox against Holly

1249
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 2: Holm and Juliana Penya sixty nine and three overall as

1250
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 2: a professional kickboxer, seven MMA wins by submission. She's a monster, Kenny.

1251
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 2: She is probably gonna close closer to minus two thousand

1252
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: than the minus thirteen hundred she's at right now. Shevchenko

1253
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 2: Montane Yo, who do you like?

1254
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 4: Yeah? And Chef Chenko, I mean this really is her

1255
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 4: weight class, isn't it.

1256
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 3: I mean one hundred and twenty five pounds really is

1257
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 3: perfect for Valentina Chivchenko, you know.

1258
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 4: And Taniko Montanya's credit.

1259
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 3: You know, she was an underdog throughout that season, The

1260
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 3: Ultimate Fighter, and she was so good as an amateur

1261
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 3: that she basically had to turn pro. She was destroying

1262
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 3: everyone that she couldn't get any fights as an amateur,

1263
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:22,959
Speaker 3: so she basically had.

1264
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 4: To go pro very early on. So listen, she's very tough.

1265
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 4: She trains with a very good team.

1266
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 3: When Tom Vaughan right down the street from Jackson wink,

1267
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 3: and you know, I think that she probably doesn't have

1268
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 3: the skills stand up wise to deal with chef Chenko,

1269
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 3: but on the ground she might be able to pose

1270
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 3: some problems. She has a good takedown, she has some

1271
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 3: good ground and pound, but Chef Chenko is just dangerous everywhere.

1272
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 3: She does have a hell of a lot more experience.

1273
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 3: But Sodi Roxanne Modafair. You know, so I think for

1274
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 3: Nico she definitely has her hands full. I think she

1275
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 3: gonna learn from this. I do see Chef Chenk go

1276
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 3: winning this, and I do see her winning it by finish.

1277
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 3: David went with second round. I'll go with third round

1278
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 3: finish for chef Chenko.

1279
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 2: All right, Valentina Chevchenk. Click for ken flow by Tko.

1280
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 4: All right?

1281
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: Main event?

1282
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 6: Man?

1283
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: Is this juicy? I mean, man, am I excited? You know?

1284
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 2: A UFC fight week is one thing. A UFC pay

1285
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 2: per view week is a different animal. Tyron Woodley slight

1286
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: favorite modest one thirty going for a fourth successive welterweight

1287
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: defense against the guerrilla Darren Toole Tool Darren Till, Liverpool

1288
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 2: outpointed Steven wonder Bo Thompson. I was the main event

1289
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 2: back and I know, I mean that is just terrible, right,

1290
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: I mean that is really bad. Thankfully I'm told Darren

1291
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 2: Till does not listen to the anakin for you in podcast.

1292
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 2: Let's hope that we got the Darren tool out of

1293
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 2: the way here, and if he becomes the UFC welterweight champion,

1294
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 2: my call will not have the word tool in it.

1295
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 2: As for this fight, Darren till seventeen to oh to one.

1296
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 2: He's five ozho and one in the UFC ten career

1297
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: knockouts and he returns here after that made event against

1298
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: Steven Warner boy Thompson that was back in May. David,

1299
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 2: what do you think he does with this opportunity? Are

1300
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: we getting a new champion this weekend or what?

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00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 8: That is one hell of good question. I've been super

1302
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 8: super afflicted with this one, you know, looking back at

1303
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 8: besides knocking out Robbie Lawler takes the title, Stephen Thompson,

1304
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 8: Ernest Stephen Thompson, Tyre Woodley has fought Stephen Thompson twice.

1305
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 8: One was really exciting, the other one not so much.

1306
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 8: And the same with Damian Maya where it kind of

1307
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 8: turned into counter wrestling with Damian Maya and just kind

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00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 8: of counter striking back and forth with Stephen Thompson. Not

1309
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 8: a whole lot of stuff going on the problem I

1310
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 8: see is that that could be the exact same thing

1311
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 8: that goes on with him and Darren Till based off

1312
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 8: of Darren Till's last fight with Stephen Thompson. With that,

1313
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 8: I'm really interested to see how the weight cut goes again,

1314
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 8: because I mean, yeah, he's made weight in most of

1315
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 8: his fights, but he's had two fights where's missed by

1316
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 8: four pounds or more. He's got a huge cut. Not

1317
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 8: that Tyron Woodley does not himself, but he's a huge guy.

1318
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 8: And this is one of those that I'm finding really

1319
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 8: hard to pick until I know, you know that everybody

1320
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 8: made weight, that everybody actually makes it to the scale.

1321
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 8: But I'm kind of leaning towards Darren Till by decision.

1322
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 8: I say that because I think Till will probably be

1323
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 8: able to stuff what takedowns Woodley may go for. Despite

1324
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 8: Woodley really not going for much for takedowns lately. I

1325
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 8: think he will likely be able to stuff those, and

1326
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 8: I think he's gonna maybe be able to stay at

1327
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 8: range and counterstrike with them a little bit and just

1328
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 8: edge out a decision. So I'm thinking or Tyron wily

1329
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 8: Darren Till by decision, but not by much.

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00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: New Champion, all right, that's well put. You certainly did

1331
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 2: your homework. You know, I haven't called a fight of

1332
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 2: Darren Till's and maybe we worked it together, Kenny. It

1333
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 2: was his UFC debut against Wendell Olavera May of twenty fifteen.

1334
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: I'm just looking forward to seeing the guy fight live.

1335
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: You know, it's been a long time, almost four years

1336
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 2: for me. On the other side, you have the underappreciated

1337
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 2: Tyron Woodley, and it seems like much of the narrative

1338
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 2: leading into this fight is not the champion, it's the challenger.

1339
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 2: A lot of people are talking about Darren Till, a

1340
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 2: lot of people Ray Longo, David picking Darren Till in

1341
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 2: this spot. How do you think Woodley approaches it and

1342
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: ultimately will he remain the UFC welterweight champ this weekend.

1343
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 4: This is a tough one, listen.

1344
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 3: I think Tyron Woodley certainly has the capabilities of not

1345
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 3: only winning this fight, but also winning it by knockout.

1346
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 3: You know, we forget about his power and his ability

1347
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 3: to knock guys out, and he knows how to fight

1348
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 3: fights out.

1349
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 4: Pause.

1350
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 3: We talked about his record. Every single guy has won two, three, four, five.

1351
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 3: The last six fights or so have been all against

1352
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 3: South Pause. Essentially wonder boy. He switches back and forth,

1353
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 3: but we'll just say that to make my point. But

1354
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 3: you know, so Woodley, and he also knows how to

1355
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 3: stay patient. He also knows how to win it dis

1356
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 3: decision as well. And he's the kind of guy that

1357
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 3: has shown the ability to stay disciplined throughout twenty five

1358
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 3: minutes and wait for his spots to attack. And we

1359
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 3: also saw him deal with adversity in that fight against

1360
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 3: Damian Maya where he tore his shoulder and had to

1361
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 3: deal with essentially twenty minutes of fighting with just one arm.

1362
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 3: So I think the threat of the takedown needs to

1363
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 3: be present here. I don't know if we're going to

1364
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 3: see a Tyron Woodley who relies heavily on his wrestling here.

1365
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 3: I don't know if he likes to do that, you know,

1366
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 3: in a lot of his fights for fear of maybe

1367
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 3: getting too tired. But Tyron, I think needs to take

1368
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 3: that a measured approach here to wait for his spot

1369
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 3: to get in and land that big shot. Now, it's

1370
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 3: not going to be an easy task against Darren Till,

1371
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 3: who I believe is going to try to lead the

1372
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 3: dance and make the octagon as small as possible.

1373
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 4: I think if he can.

1374
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 3: Back Woodley up and keep him on the outside, I

1375
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 3: think Till can win this fight both by knockout or

1376
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 3: by decision. I think we saw the patience and discipline

1377
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 3: of Darren Till as well against wonder Boy. We also

1378
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 3: have seen his ability to knock people out. His most

1379
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 3: dangerous weapons. What are they all? On the left side?

1380
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 3: His left kick to the body, his left kick to

1381
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 3: the head, his left hand to the head, and his

1382
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 3: left elbow is something that Tyron Woodley really needs to

1383
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 3: be able to neutralize in this fight. Otherwise Woodley's going

1384
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 3: to be in big time trouble. I don't know if

1385
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 3: I'm going with my heart or my head, but I

1386
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 3: am gonna pick Tyron Woodley here to win by decision.

1387
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: Tyron Woodley by decision for the Flow. And how about

1388
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 2: Ken Flow underslept and you wouldn't even know it. Absolute

1389
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 2: fire today, all right, Dave a couple quick picks on

1390
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 2: the way out, so no analysis needed. These are just

1391
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 2: for the record because Ken Flow needs points. So this

1392
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: fight's on pay per view. Ab dual Razak al Hassen

1393
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 2: minus one fifty five Nico price after that huge knockout

1394
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 2: of Randy Brown his last time out slight underdog here

1395
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: a plus one twenty five. David, you go on Razak

1396
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 2: al Hassen or Nico Price.

1397
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 8: I'm going with Nico Price.

1398
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 2: Kenny. I thought Nico would be the slight favorite here

1399
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 2: at minus one fifty five, But the further you dive

1400
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 2: into the body of work of Abdul ra zach Al

1401
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 2: Haassen and the more film I watch, I can maybe

1402
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: understand why he gets the distinction as the favorite. But

1403
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 2: I think you're shaking your head because you're on the

1404
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 2: Nico Price side as well.

1405
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know where you found this guy. I

1406
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 3: don't want David on this podcast ever again. All right, listen, Yeah,

1407
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 3: I know I like Nico as well.

1408
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 7: All right.

1409
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 2: Craig White minus two thirty He had a short notice

1410
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 2: UFC debut against Neil Magni, so full camp for him

1411
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 2: here as he takes on Diego Sanchez twenty eighth UFC

1412
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 2: appearance for Diego Sanchez, who comes back at plus one

1413
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 2: eighty five. David, what do you think Craig White or

1414
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 2: Diego Sanchez?

1415
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 8: Tough to pick because of Diego is kind of rocky

1416
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 8: record lately, But I am going to go Craig White

1417
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 8: just because.

1418
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 2: Of that, all right, David's going with Craig White, ken Flow.

1419
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 2: You saw Diego Sanchez recently still at it, man, you know,

1420
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 2: starting to finally show some age in the face a

1421
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 2: little bit. I was like, man, this is the ageless

1422
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 2: Diego Sanchez. Still looks pretty good to me though, twenty

1423
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: eighth UFC fight. You think he gets it done here

1424
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 2: against Craig White.

1425
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 4: Or what I'm going with the nightmare Diego Sanchez? Let's go?

1426
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that that just makes sense for you

1427
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 2: to pick Diego for more reasons than one. All Right, Finally,

1428
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 2: Alex White minus one forty five against Jim Miller plus

1429
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 2: one fifteen. And the reason we're picking this fight today, boys,

1430
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 2: is because Jim Miller will be making his record thirtieth

1431
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 2: UFC appearance, Wow, on Saturday Night. Mate is ufcave you

1432
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 2: on October of two thousand and eight, So not even

1433
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 2: ten years on the roster, thirty fucking UFC fights. That

1434
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 2: just sounds like a headache. David, do you think he

1435
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 2: gets it done here as slight underdog against Alex White

1436
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 2: or one?

1437
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1438
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 8: I think so. He's on a for fight losing streak,

1439
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 8: But it's been against really good competition. I think he's

1440
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 8: gonna get it done.

1441
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 2: Tenfelow. Alex White has been up and down, alternating wins

1442
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 2: and losses over his last five You on that Jim

1443
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: Miller side too, or you go on, Alex.

1444
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 4: What Jim Miller going with Jim Miller? Damn you?

1445
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 2: David David Flannery short notice Anakin Floorian podcast debut today.

1446
01:04:58,600 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 8: David tales copy you either.

1447
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 7: Can He's right.

1448
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 4: Good job, buddy.

1449
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we always have the guest picker lead, but maybe

1450
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 2: we'll switch it up next week. But nine picks out

1451
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 2: of you, David. We appreciate it, appreciate your listenership, and

1452
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 2: hopefully you crush the flow this weekend. Buddy, Thanks for

1453
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: the time.

1454
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 8: Hey, I appreciate you guys having me on. I've been

1455
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 8: a big fan of both of you for a long time.

1456
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 4: Appreciate it. Thanks for listening so much.

1457
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 2: And I and if that picture's any indication that's not

1458
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 2: the guy you want to draw in jiu jitsu class

1459
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 2: tonight when they're matching you guys up, so try to

1460
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 2: steer clear of David Flannery. I see I avoid matchups

1461
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 2: like David Flannery on the jiu jitsu matts all the time.

1462
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 2: I just don't show up for class. It's very simple. Ah,

1463
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: all right, we are both under slept. We got to

1464
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 2: get out of here. Thank you to our guest, the

1465
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 2: great Cody Stamen Ray long Ago, who, of course will

1466
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 2: be in the opposite corner with Al Joe this weekend

1467
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 2: crew at Fox Sports Ben with Sort, John Hill, Danny Mayock,

1468
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 2: Jeff Williams, anyone else who sacrificed part of their holiday,

1469
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: their Sunday and Monday. We appreciate it very much. I'm

1470
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 2: headed to Dallas Thursday morning for the call on pay

1471
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 2: per view. Joe Rogan, Daniel Core me a, Ken Flow.

1472
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 2: You working this weekend? Off? What do you got?

1473
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 3: I am working this weekend. Have a great show, dude.

1474
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 3: It should be a fun one and I will see

1475
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 3: you on the other side. Man, safe travels.

1476
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 2: Brother sounds good And as always, if you want to

1477
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 2: change your picks.

1478
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 4: Yes, I will.

1479
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I'm gonna I'm gonna tech. I'm

1480
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 3: gonna use the old mobile cell phone there.

1481
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1482
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 2: And if you do want to see Kenflow, he is

1483
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles all week May ROCKYBJJ dot com look

1484
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 2: it up, go to the school.

1485
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1486
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 2: I mean the hip hop in the background, the gray mats.

1487
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, it's the type of Brazilian jiu jitsu

1488
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 2: atmosphere that would inspire someone like me. And I'm not

1489
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 2: saying that to be funny.

1490
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 6: I thank you.

1491
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 4: That was the idea behind it, my man, Thank you

1492
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 4: so much. And actually I forgot to say shout out.

1493
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 3: To Mrocki Brasilian Jitsu because it's gonna be our one

1494
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 3: year anniversary on Saturday, and thank you to all of

1495
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 3: my students. Uh to Jason Hunt, my partner and co

1496
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 3: head instructor over there doing a great job. And uh,

1497
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 3: we're gonna have Homlo Bahl there doing a seminar this Saturday,

1498
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 3: and then after we're gonna have a little get together.

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Speaker 3: Everyone is welcome to kind of stop by and check

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Speaker 3: out the gym. We'll have some food and drinks over

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Speaker 3: there if you guys want to check it out around noon,

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Speaker 3: one o'clock something like that. Everyone's more than welcome to

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Speaker 3: come and hang.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely love it. No sugary beverages on those beautiful gray mats. Also,

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Speaker 2: no shoes on the mats. That's right, dude, you know it.

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Speaker 2: I mean you learned that lesson pretty early on. I

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Speaker 2: still can't tie my white belt, but take your shoes

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Speaker 2: off before you go on the mat. May Rocky be

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Speaker 2: Jay Jay. You know it's like, would you rather have

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Speaker 2: hip hop and Ken Flow delicately telling you what to do?

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Speaker 2: Or Marcos pahompa demata scream it in your ear? Just

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Speaker 2: kidding on. We gotta get out of here all right.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy UFC two twenty eight will leave versus till don't forget.

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Speaker 2: The prelims will be on FX and we will be

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Speaker 2: back to recap all of it with you next Monday.

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Speaker 2: With that for the flow, I'm John Anick. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: you all listening sincerely until next Monday. Don't text and drive.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy the fights, yo fucking later.

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Speaker 10: take on a couple of villains to sort out whether

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Speaker 10: bad stuff is also illegal stuff. George Santos want to

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Speaker 10: seek in Congress by lying to voters, but is that

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Speaker 1: And Kanye West made it clear he hates Jews.

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Speaker 7: In England, he'd go to jail for that.

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Speaker 1: Here in America, did he commit a hate crime?

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