1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:01,560 Speaker 1: How is it having Graham back? 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 2: Great? 3 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 3: You know, I thought he did a nice job last week, 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 3: you know, and going into the week, obviously see him 5 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 3: kick during the week gave us some conviction that he 6 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 3: was going to have success. Obviously Graham has done in 7 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 3: a long time in this league, and you know, him 8 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 3: getting ready for that game, I know, meant a lot 9 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 3: to him, meant a lot to this organization, and he 10 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: felt like he was in a good place. We felt 11 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 3: like he was in a good place, and it was 12 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 3: cool to see Mex two with some points. 13 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: Change anything with his weekly workload to just make sure 14 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: he's able to get through the next you know, nine 15 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: ten weeks. 16 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we're gonna exhaust every option in terms 17 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 3: of just making certain that he is, you know, consistent 18 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 3: and healthy every week. I know that's something that he 19 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 3: loves to stay connected to as well, making sure he 20 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: takes care of his body. So whether it's monitoring some 21 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: of the reps he's taken, but at the end of 22 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: the day, he still needs to get enough reps in 23 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: those practices to make sure that he feels ready for 24 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: the game. And I don't think you can short change 25 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: that by truly cutting those reps by. 26 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: A lot Jamie and kickoff. 27 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Jamie has done a really nice job 28 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: throughout the year on kickoffs, and obviously if Graham needs 29 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: to go in there, he will. You know, both those guys, 30 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 3: like I say, have the ability to do so. Graham 31 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: has no restrictions in terms of game day, so if 32 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: we need him to play that he will. Like I said, Jamie, 33 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: I think has done a nice job throughout the year. 34 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: I think it's a huge pro for us when your 35 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 3: punter can do kickoffs, not necessarily to say that it 36 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: alleviates the stress off a kicker to do that, but 37 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: just because Jamie is shown to do a good job 38 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: of it this year. And then when Graham has had 39 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 3: his opportunities to do so as well, he has done 40 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: a nice job as well. So it's good to have 41 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: two guys up on game day that have the ability 42 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: to do so. 43 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 4: How comfortable are you to have him do that full time? 44 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: And what about Jamie and the kickoffs? And then you know, 45 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 4: this gives Graham an opportunity to sort of you know, 46 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 4: stay healthy and you know those are extra kicks. 47 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to beg Yeah, you know, I think 48 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: at the end of the day. 49 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: Like when a player shows up to game day and 50 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: he is healthy, he has to be able to do 51 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 3: everything that is necessary to win the game. So if 52 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: he needed to go in on kickoff, I don't think 53 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: he would bat an eye. You know, I truly believe 54 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: that last week, he truly believed that he was ready 55 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: to do both field goals and kickoffs. So not going 56 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: with Graham on kickoffs last week wasn't indicative of trying 57 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: to keep him healthy per se. It was more so 58 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: Jamie has done a nice job. And again, as long 59 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 3: as Jamie's doing a nice job, that's something he could 60 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: obviously own. But if Graham needed to do it, you know, 61 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: whether it be this game, next game, down the line 62 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: in the season, I think he feels convicted that his 63 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: body's in the right place, his mentality is in the 64 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: right place, that he'd be able to execute some of 65 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 3: those kickoffs. The other thing that you're seeing across the 66 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: league now the last couple of years, when people were 67 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: trying to execute with Hank time, that took a lot 68 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: more effort swinging into the ball, So kickers, when they 69 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: had to let their coverage team have time to get downfield, 70 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 3: they had to put more into the ball. Now you're 71 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: seeing all these kickers three to five yards away from 72 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: the ball, So when they're three to five yards away 73 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: from the ball, that swing becomes a little bit more 74 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: effortless and it's just like tapping a soccer ball. So 75 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 3: it's not as taxing to those kickers as kicking two 76 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: years ago when you had to kick that hanngtime, where 77 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: that was a lot more force coming into the ball 78 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: to try and get more hang time. 79 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: You just. 80 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: Sorry like approach, just more force, like quite literally. Yeah, 81 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: So what I mean is like because hanng time is 82 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: now irrelevant with those kickoffs, it is more so placement, 83 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: And because placement is more of a premium than hangtime, 84 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: they don't have to be as far away from the ball. 85 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: When you're not far away from the ball, you're not 86 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: going to generate as much force into the ball. When 87 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: two years ago, when you were trying to get more 88 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: hang time on the ball, you had to back up 89 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: from the ball, and then you're bringing more speed into 90 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: the ball, and when you're swinging it's more violent. 91 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: So like if you looked at a kicker two years ago. 92 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: When they would swing on a kickoff, most kickers are 93 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: landing on their kicking leg because all their momentum is 94 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: going that way. 95 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: They're swinging freely. 96 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 3: Now they're doing more of a field goal kick to 97 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 3: where they're actually landing on their plant foot, and it's 98 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: a little bit less taxing on them. 99 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: I mean, if the game stays the way, it's a 100 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: will extend the life of kickers absolutely, yeah, yeah, no. 101 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: I think one thing that you see across the league, 102 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 3: as players get older, they may not be as fast, 103 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: they may not have as much explosiveness, so they have 104 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 3: to rely more on fundamentals. And because this doesn't necessarily 105 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 3: need a ton of explosiveness, it could give them more 106 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: years in this league as a result. 107 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: It's kind of like mentor protege special teams chess match 108 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: for you. So I have tremendous respect for Brent Boyer. 109 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: He is a guy that you know, obviously gave me 110 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: an opportunity with the Jets and is number one, a 111 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: tremendous human being. He played in this league a long 112 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: time and he's coaching this league a long time. 113 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: So for him to give me. 114 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: Some of that experience that he's had from both playing 115 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: and coaching when I work for him, you know, I'm 116 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: indebted to him. I look forward to the competition and 117 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: I know he does too. You know, at the end 118 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: of the day, this is the National Football League and 119 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: we both want to win, so we'll be excited to 120 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: go against him. 121 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: And going forward, Ray raised donce some returning in the past. 122 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: What could he bring for using back there? 123 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's he obviously has the juice, you know, 124 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: he has home run ability, the short area of quicks 125 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: that you want, the catch mechanics, and he has the 126 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 3: top end speed, you know, So that skill set I 127 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 3: was obviously giving him success in this league, and he 128 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: will certainly be a person that we work back there. 129 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 2: And see what gives us the best chance to in 130 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: the game. On Sunday, they had. 131 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 4: A bunch of quality returns last game. What did you 132 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 4: see when you like, was there a common thread when 133 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 4: you went back and looked at it any other day? 134 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think to have explosive returns in this league, 135 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: your fundamentals have to be on point, and I think 136 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 3: Brandt does a great job of teaching those techniques. 137 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: So their front line did a good. 138 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 3: Job of blocking those up, blocking those returns, and then 139 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: obviously the returners did a good job of feeling those 140 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: kicks and then seeing where the return holes are and 141 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: setting up their block. So, you know, that's something that's 142 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: certainly going to challenge us that we got to be 143 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: ready for in terms of being gap sound, in terms 144 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 3: of tackling is going to be a big component to 145 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: stop those returns. 146 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: You guys were first in the league I think and 147 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 2: kickoff return coverage going into last week, and then you 148 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: gave up a couple of bigger returns. What was the 149 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 2: breakdown and maybe what can you do about it? Yeah, 150 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 2: it just comes down to tackling. 151 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: You know, when you look back at that play and 152 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: you stop it where the return hit, you're not necessar 153 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 3: really seeing a huge gap, which sometimes you're like, okay, 154 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: we gotta do this differently. It comes down to getting 155 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: off blocks and finishing and tackling, and that's something you 156 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 3: know our guys, uh, you know, when they've been playing 157 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: so well. 158 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: On kickoff, that obviously fuels them and they want to 159 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: they want to do right, you. 160 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: Know that to give up an explosive in the return 161 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: game when you've been playing well on kickoff, you look 162 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: inwardly and be like, what do I god do better 163 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: to to make this play to where it doesn't happen again. 164 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: And that's a good thing about our group is you know, 165 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: they're hungry and they'll flourish any opportunity to go out 166 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: there and make it right. 167 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: Guys. 168 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: I've been using that duel on the hun Recurrent pump 169 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: Block team last two weeks. 170 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think every week is unique. 171 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: You know, he obviously has the ability to rush, and 172 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: he's done a really good job for us when he 173 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: has been back there. It hasn't necessarily been anything of 174 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: any particular reason why we haven't used him there with 175 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: opportunities we want to. Uh, some of my calls reflect 176 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: whether he would be in versus when he wouldn't. But again, 177 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: he has the ability to do everything that all the 178 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: other guys do and certainly could see him having success 179 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: on Sunday with us.