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Speaker 1: All right, it's time to I'm trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: if find is it better to give like second date

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Speaker 1: update advice when you're single or when you're dating when

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Speaker 1: you're married in a category because I'm married, Yeah, were

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Speaker 1: called dated. It's not like you just are born married. No,

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Speaker 1: it certainly isn't. Why don't we find out right now? So,

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Speaker 1: dear Ryan and Sisity, we met. We met she was

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Speaker 1: dating a friend of mine. We didn't really know each other,

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Speaker 1: but when we see each other, we'd flot a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Nothing crazy, but I felt a connect and we may

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Speaker 1: have even kissed at one point. This is from camera

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Speaker 1: while Yeah, so they the friend end up breaking up

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Speaker 1: and not too long after I ran into her out

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Speaker 1: and about we went out, we hooked up a little

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Speaker 1: bit and then make plans hang out again. But now

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Speaker 1: she's acting distant. I get that she may not want

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Speaker 1: to rush into something. But what else is going on?

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Speaker 1: From Cameron in Los Felis about Ellie Cameron, Good morning,

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Speaker 1: this is juicy. Good morning. So Cameron, I wasn't sure

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Speaker 1: didn't need that. I was actively I really didn't know

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Speaker 1: what it was coming. So Cameron. Uh, this is interesting

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Speaker 1: because you guys had this fire, if you will, your

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Speaker 1: connect and now you kind of permission to let it burn,

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Speaker 1: and she's being stand offish, right, yeah, exactly, And you

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Speaker 1: think it's because it's just too soon. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I we talked about how she didn want to rush

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Speaker 1: already you already got it out. You already hooked up.

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Speaker 1: We made out, we made out, but nothing more. Well,

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Speaker 1: you say we went out, we hooked up. What is

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Speaker 1: For us? It was just making out at that time? Dude?

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Speaker 1: What is it to you? You cheated it though? Thoms?

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Speaker 1: What is hooked up to you? Uh? Well, second base?

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Speaker 1: What's not? I have to ask? Hopeless? Uh go ahead, Tanya,

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Speaker 1: I was just laughing at you. I think it could

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Speaker 1: have multiple meanings. It could be as simple as a kiss,

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Speaker 1: or it could mean everything. But you cheated. I heard

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Speaker 1: there's a question here, Yes, So did you cheat on

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Speaker 1: the previous girlfriend with this girl? I didn't. She's on

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Speaker 1: a previous girlfriend. She did kiss me while she was

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Speaker 1: dating my friend, But how was your friend? Okay? God,

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Speaker 1: so Cameren, how do you feel about hooking up with

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Speaker 1: your friends immediate X or making out with her while

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Speaker 1: they're dating? I question a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 1: vines here. I feel like this is not that you

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Speaker 1: want to pursue. They were. They were definitely on the

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Speaker 1: waist on the ways out at that time. I wasn't really,

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Speaker 1: you know, necessarily pursuing or trying to took up with

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Speaker 1: her that you kissed his girlfriend. It did happen. It

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Speaker 1: sort of just happened, and you want to sue Ellie

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Speaker 1: the acts of your friend not clearly your friend. I

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Speaker 1: feel like I do feel like maybe we had a

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Speaker 1: stronger connection than they they ever had. He is he

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Speaker 1: cool with it? Does he know the extent of I

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Speaker 1: think our job is just to find out what's going

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Speaker 1: on and not judge camer until we're dumb. So Cameron's

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Speaker 1: I'm really you know me too. I'm with you. But

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Speaker 1: let's do our job and then we'll give our commentary.

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Speaker 1: All right, Cameron, hang off for a second. We are

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Speaker 1: going to try and track down Ellie and find out

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Speaker 1: what's on Ellie's mind. Okay, okay, thanks, Yeah, this got

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Speaker 1: two parts to me. One, let's get to it and

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Speaker 1: then let's get after. If you are just joining us,

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Speaker 1: we're in the middle of a second date update and

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Speaker 1: you guys, see if I can get this right. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Cameron's friend was dating this girl, Ellie. He Cameron and

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Speaker 1: his friend's girlfriend, Ellie, felt like they had a connection.

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Speaker 1: At one point, Ellie kissed Cameron while Ellie was dating

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Speaker 1: Cameron's friend. Great, they always flirted before that. Now Ellie

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Speaker 1: and now Ellie's being staying offish for what I think

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Speaker 1: are obvious reasons. But Cameron wants to know why because

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Speaker 1: without you don't even draw anything this time, and usually

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Speaker 1: like tubs and sissony or something. All right, So Cameron,

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Speaker 1: all this? Okay? Okay, all right, Ellie, thanks for green

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Speaker 1: I'm don al right, how are you. We're doing well, Ryan, Cissy, Tanya,

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Speaker 1: So do you know a guy named Cameron? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know Cameron? Okay. And he's friends with your ex yep.

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Speaker 1: And what do you think of him? Um? I mean

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Speaker 1: Is he? What is he to you? Um? We we

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Speaker 1: so you went out with your exes friend romantically? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And have you always had a connection with Cameron? Um? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I always, but yeah, we had.

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Speaker 1: We had a decent connection, I would say. And how

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Speaker 1: that's just kind of a weird situation. But um, I Uh,

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Speaker 1: so we had bumped into each other, um at this thing.

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Speaker 1: But it turns out that the bumping into each other

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, he kind of played it off

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Speaker 1: as a rom com type moment. Um, but I don't

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Speaker 1: a but um, I don't need my relationships. Produced Hurt

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Speaker 1: Mastermind by Taylor Swift. Yes, sometimes it's like that and

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Speaker 1: it's like beautiful, all right, but she's saying she doesn't felt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that that makes sense. And yeah, I'm sorry for weirding

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Speaker 1: if anything, I'm minted as accompliable. Um. Um, I don't know. Um,

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Speaker 1: make with Cameron while you're with his friend? Oh? I

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Speaker 1: mean yeah, we we like we kissed. Anyone. Is anyone

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Speaker 1: so it really wasn't that. There wasn't much of a

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Speaker 1: happens from here? Allie? Um, I don't know. I mean

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Speaker 1: I I like Cameron, um, obviously, but I was interested,

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Speaker 1: but after finding out this information, I don't know, it

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Speaker 1: just it kind of left a bad taste in my mouth.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm really not sure, um what I want to do.

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Speaker 1: I think I think it's I need to think about it,

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Speaker 1: honestly all the time. You need Cameron, Thank you for

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Speaker 1: reaching out, Ellie, thanks for talking to us in good

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Speaker 1: luck with you guys, all right, thank you? Thanks all right?

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Speaker 1: I mean is there a double standard here? Though? Um?

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Speaker 1: I think they headline is I love rom coms. What's

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Speaker 1: wrong with a comment serendipity is there is there a

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Speaker 1: double standard, Like when a girl does something like this,

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Speaker 1: is it considered cute? But is it ikey? If a

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Speaker 1: oh my god, I would totally take you to get

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Speaker 1: the ice cream Sunday at the Serendipity Cafe. If a

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Speaker 1: knew I was at frequently, I'd be stoked if you

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Speaker 1: were into him. Now if you are not into him,

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Speaker 1: well he's a stranger. I don't know how. I don't

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Speaker 1: they were together. Yeah, that was already. Can't even focus

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Speaker 1: soap oper of it, all right, it's like he cheated

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Speaker 1: It's called Unholy