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Speaker 1: for you also. And then the other big issue, and

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Speaker 1: I understand not wanting to buy a product, but this

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Speaker 3: listen to the interview that we did with Elon Musk.

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Speaker 3: to say. Today's Democrat party is characterized by rage and hatred.

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Speaker 3: But they've now projected much of that anger and hate

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Speaker 4: Give a listen my phone. I don't some of you

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Speaker 1: You Sinter this is what I call the dog whistle

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Speaker 6: The same suspect shot more Tesla's with a gun. Tesla

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Speaker 3: Wow, you guys like petty acts of domestic terrorism?

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Speaker 1: Well, petty acts of terrorism? Centerre cool, right, Like, let's

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Speaker 3: It's striking. So at the end there that's the Daily

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Speaker 3: like petty acts of domestic terrorism. They're cheering for it.

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Speaker 3: It's reminiscent of this Luigi clown who murdered the senior

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Speaker 3: And we're seeing here this is domestic violence. Now here's

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Speaker 3: some good news. The Attorney General Pambondi announced that three

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Speaker 3: days of committing crimes without consequences have ended. Let this

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Speaker 4: To the Department of Justice.

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Speaker 3: But you know what, there are a whole lot more

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Speaker 1: Because John Cusack appeared on a test slit takedown call,

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Speaker 1: you know the summer of takedown that the Occupy Wall Street.

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Speaker 1: This is all coming from organized groups that are being funded.

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Speaker 3: It is clearly funded. And I'll tell you right now,

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Speaker 3: domestic terror, existing federal law makes it a crime. Using

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Speaker 3: if the Soros network is involved, but if the Soros

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Speaker 3: That is important for the rule of law, and it's striking.

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Speaker 3: Look that there are Democrat members of Congress participating. Jasmine

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Speaker 3: Because the Department of Education, there ain't nobody at the

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Speaker 3: So the executive Order directs the Secretary of Education to

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Speaker 8: President Carter created the Federal Education Department in nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 8: After forty five years, the United States spends more money

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Speaker 1: You listen to him talk about that the more money

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Speaker 2: You know what to do with them better than we do.

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Speaker 3: Look, that's absolutely right, and to understand the level of waste.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen high schools had not even a single student, not

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Speaker 4: Now, as you mentioned, I'm in Austin today.

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Speaker 3: me has been a passion for thirty years. I've spent

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Speaker 4: It hurts you. Why because when.

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Speaker 3: You do it, the old rule of thumb is you

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Speaker 3: I have my team make an Excel spreadsheet of every

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Speaker 3: vote a state legislator has cast on school choice. And

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Speaker 3: if you're a Republican state rapper state senator, and you've

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Speaker 3: voted in favor of school choice, and you're otherwise relatively conservative,

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Speaker 3: you are very likely to get my support. But if

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Speaker 3: you haven't, if you've voted against choice, the chance of

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Speaker 3: my supporting you is zero. And if you have had

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Speaker 3: all a credible primary challenger, it is very likely I'm

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Speaker 3: going to endorse your primary challenger. And when I do it,

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Speaker 3: I don't do so gently. I come in and I

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Speaker 3: do radio ads, I do TV ads, I do rallies.

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Speaker 3: I campaign And over the last six years there's been

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Speaker 3: a bunch of Republican state reps who voted the wrong

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Speaker 3: way on choice, and we've come in and beaten them.

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Speaker 3: We brought in someone new who's going to stand for

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Speaker 3: the kids of Texas. And so I was on the

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Speaker 3: floor of the House and then I went back to

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Speaker 3: the Speaker's office that I was meeting one on one

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Speaker 3: with a whole bunch of state reps and making the

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Speaker 3: case what you're doing right now is a big deal.

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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you, Ben, I announced today I'm spending

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Speaker 3: a quarter million dollars, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: running TV ads all across Texas, running them over the top,

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Speaker 3: directly connecting with voters, also sending texts supporting fourteen state reps.

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Speaker 3: Freshmen state reps Republicans and thanking them for supporting school choice. Now, look,

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Speaker 3: the teachers' unions are spending massive amounts of money attacking

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Speaker 3: these Republicans, trying to scare them into voting the wrong way.

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Speaker 3: And so I'm spending from my own political resources to

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Speaker 3: say thank you to them, to support them, to buck

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Speaker 3: them up, to give air support. Texas is going to

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Speaker 3: get this done. And I'll tell you I have been

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Speaker 3: leading the fight for a long time. I've never been

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Speaker 3: more excited about school choice in Texas than I am

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about out what the left says and

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Speaker 1: just how they've been so successful at stopping this. A

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Speaker 1: lot of this is because the teachers' unions are very powerful.

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Speaker 1: The Department of Education and their alumni have become incredibly

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Speaker 1: powerful and making sure that they fear, monger and terrify

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Speaker 1: parents that your kids won't be able to get an

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Speaker 1: education if you give parents the freedom to choose. This

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Speaker 1: has become that type of kind of third rail, as

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Speaker 1: we call it, an issue in politics. You don't touch

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Speaker 1: those security, don't touch education even if it is failing.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about some of their claims and what

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Speaker 1: the audience needs to understand about why some of them

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Speaker 1: are just flat out bogus.

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Speaker 3: Well, virtually all of them are bogus. And understand you know,

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Speaker 3: choice has been an issue that has been debated for

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Speaker 3: a long time. When I first got involved in the

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Speaker 3: school choice movement, it was three decades ago, and at

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Speaker 3: the time it was a fairly nascent movement. And at

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Speaker 3: the time it was mostly a theoretical idea, and it

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Speaker 3: had come from free market economists like Milton Friedman, but

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Speaker 3: it hadn't been implemented many places. And there were lots

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Speaker 3: of arguments that were used thirty years ago, the most

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Speaker 3: significant one of which was school choice will destroy the

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Speaker 3: public schools. And you hear the Teachers' union saying that,

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Speaker 3: you hear the corporate media amplifying that message, and I

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Speaker 3: get to say that message is powerful. If that were true,

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Speaker 3: I would oppose school choice. Let me repeat that, I

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Speaker 3: don't want to destroy the public schools. If school choice

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Speaker 3: would destroy the public schools, I would oppose choice. Why

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Speaker 3: Because the vast majority of our kids are educated in

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Speaker 3: the public schools and they will continue to be for

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Speaker 3: the foreseeable future, and I think education is so foundational.

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Speaker 3: Destroy the public schools will be terrible. We now know

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Speaker 3: that argument is absolutely false, It is not right.

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Speaker 4: How do we know that. We know that.

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Speaker 3: Because there were dozens of jurisdictions all across the country

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Speaker 3: that have implemented its choice. And in every instance, what

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Speaker 3: happens when you implement school choice, when you give kids

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Speaker 3: scholarships and options, several things happen. Number one, the kids

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Speaker 3: that take the scholarships that go to new schools, that

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Speaker 3: go to private schools or parochial schools, religious schools. We

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Speaker 3: know the educational outcomes go up. Their reading scores go up,

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Speaker 3: their math scores go up, their high school graduation scores

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Speaker 3: go up, their percentage of going to college goes up.

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Speaker 3: We know for those kids, their educational outcomes are significantly better.

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Speaker 3: But here's the critical piece. We now know school choice

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Speaker 3: benefits the public schools. It is better for the public schools.

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Speaker 3: What happens is when you have competition, the educational outcomes

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Speaker 3: for the kids that stay in the public schools that

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Speaker 3: never exercise the vouchers that never get the scholarships, that

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Speaker 3: never leave, their educational outcomes get better. And look at

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Speaker 3: anyone who understands free markets should understand that competition is

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Speaker 3: good and when you have competition. All right, Ben, here's

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Speaker 3: something that a number of folks will remember. Actually you're

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Speaker 3: young enough, you will not remember this, but cars in

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Speaker 3: the nineteen seventies. American cars in the nineteen seventies. I'm

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Speaker 3: going to tell you because I was born in nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 3: As a kid, the quality of American cars of the

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Speaker 3: nineteen seventies sucked. You had giant gas guzzlers that broke

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Speaker 3: down a lot, and it was not very good. And

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Speaker 3: in the late seventies in the early eighties, you started

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Speaker 3: having Japanese cars come in, and there was a whole

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Speaker 3: freakout about Japanese cars competing with American cars because they

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Speaker 3: were coming in with Honda and Toyota, and their quality

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Speaker 3: was really good, and American consumers were buying them instead

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Speaker 3: of American cars, and there was a whole I remember

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Speaker 3: as a kid, when I was like eight, nine, ten

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Speaker 3: years old, there was a whole freak out, like the

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Speaker 3: Japanese are going to destroy the American car industry and

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Speaker 3: we're doomed and we can't compete with the Japanese. People

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Speaker 3: were freaked out. And at Chrysler there was a CEO

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Speaker 3: named Leiah Koku came in and said, all right, the

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Speaker 3: answer is, let's stop making crappy cars. Let's make good cars, Like,

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Speaker 3: how do we beat Toyota and Honda and the Japanese

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Speaker 3: companies coming in. Well, let's make better cars so the

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Speaker 3: consumers want and we saw quality improve dramatically. American cars

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Speaker 3: are much better and you now look at things like

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Speaker 3: suburbans and escalades and all sorts of American cars that

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Speaker 3: people like to buy. But why do they like to

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Speaker 3: buy them? Because the competition made the American car makers

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Speaker 3: make better cars. Tesla Tesla's are really cool cars. They're

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Speaker 3: incredibly fast, they're incredibly well made, but that's because they're

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Speaker 3: in a competitive market.

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Speaker 4: What happens with school choice.

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Speaker 3: We now know this is when the students and parents

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Speaker 3: have a choice, the quality of education improves and it

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Speaker 3: benefits the public schools.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in a major way. What do the listeners need

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Speaker 2: to do?

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Speaker 1: This is one of those action moments I think where

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Speaker 1: it's really important. Is this a you got to lobby

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Speaker 1: or state legislature at the same time you're calling Congress,

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Speaker 1: Because let's be very realistic here, this is going to

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Speaker 1: be a big fight.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a fight worth having.

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Speaker 1: I also think one of the things that people may

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Speaker 1: not understand about the strategy of the president is the

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Speaker 1: conversation center that you and I are having right now

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Speaker 1: is the conversation the President clearly is wanting the American

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Speaker 1: people to have about their kids and grandkids in public education.

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Speaker 1: This is part of this is You've got to start

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Speaker 1: winning the hearts and minds of voters and people in

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Speaker 1: this country tax payers. And one way to do it

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Speaker 1: is to say I'm getting rid of the Department of Education. Now,

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Speaker 1: this may not happen tomorrow, it may not happen a

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Speaker 1: month for now, or even three months from now, but

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Speaker 1: this is a step in the right direction.

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Speaker 4: Well it's a big step.

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Speaker 3: And let me say, shutting down the federal Department of

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Speaker 3: Education is incredibly important. Now, Congress is going to need

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Speaker 3: to act. We're going to need to pass legislation making

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Speaker 3: it permanent, and I'm eager to do so. Why because

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Speaker 3: I think the states are much more effect acted, much

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Speaker 3: more responsive to students, and they don't put the same

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Speaker 3: bureaucracy and red tape on the schools. Look, you want

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Speaker 3: to understand, here's the point I made at the Texas legislature. Today,

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Speaker 3: we had a press conference and I pointed out, I said, listen,

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Speaker 3: I think the legislature is going to pass the biggest

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Speaker 3: and boldest and most significant school choice.

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Speaker 4: Program in America.

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Speaker 3: When it comes time to a vote, most, if not

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Speaker 3: every Democrat is going to vote no. Now, I hope

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Speaker 3: that's not the case. And by the way, you want

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Speaker 3: to talk about I had a reporter asked, why do

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Speaker 3: you say school choices the civil rights issue of the

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Speaker 3: twenty first century. Well, if you look at the failing schools,

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Speaker 3: at the schools where you have rampant violence, where you

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Speaker 3: have high dropout rates, where you have incredibly low test scores,

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Speaker 3: they're predominantly in low income areas, and they're predominantly minority schools.

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Speaker 3: They're predominantly African American schools and Hispanic schools. You look

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Speaker 3: at the kids who are disproportionately harmed by failing schools,

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Speaker 3: and they are disproportionately minority kids. There is a reason

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Speaker 3: that every time a poll is done of African American

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Speaker 3: parents or Hispanic parents, you see overwhelming support for school choice,

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Speaker 3: sixty seventy percent, sometimes as high as eighty percent. Now,

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Speaker 3: most elected Democrats claim they are fighting for minorities. Many

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Speaker 3: of them are representing districts that are heavily minority, and

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Speaker 3: yet almost every Democrat, and maybe every Democrat, intends to

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Speaker 3: vote against school choice, against those kids. And here's why

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Speaker 3: I'm going to quote. I'm going to quote Al Shanker,

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Speaker 3: who was the longtime president of the American Federation of Teachers,

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Speaker 3: and here's what he said. Quote, when school children start

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Speaker 3: paying union dues, that's when I'll start representing the interest

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Speaker 3: of school children.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: You want to know what's going on with Democrats. They're

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Speaker 3: interested in money and manpower, and the Teachers' union are

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Speaker 3: consistently among if not their biggest funders, and among if

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Speaker 3: not their biggest source of manpower. And every Democrat who

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Speaker 3: makes the decision I'm voting against choice. What they're saying

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Speaker 3: is I want the dollars from the union bosses more

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Speaker 3: than I care about the kids in my district, more

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Speaker 3: than I care about the African American and Hispanic kids,

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Speaker 3: and the low income kids who are trapped in failing schools,

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Speaker 3: who are not learning to read, who are not learning arithmetic,

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Speaker 3: who are going to drop out, And by the way,

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Speaker 3: if they drop out, we know, just like night follows day.

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Speaker 3: We know the odds of poverty are much much higher.

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Speaker 3: We know the odds of crime are much much higher.

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Speaker 3: We know the odds of substance abuse are much much higher.

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Speaker 3: We know the odds of serious healthcare issues are much

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Speaker 3: much higher. And so every Democrat who says I want

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Speaker 3: the money from the union bosses more than these kids

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Speaker 3: is willing to essentially throw these children overboard and say

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Speaker 3: your future doesn't matter. That's why it's the civil rights

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Speaker 3: issue the twenty first century, and it's why I've spent

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Speaker 3: thirty years fighting for it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. Don't forget. We do the show Monday,

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