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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, all right, twist ending. Good morning, sweet world.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the No Dunks podcast on the Athletic Network.

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, January thirty first, twenty twenty three. I'm j

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Speaker 5: You guys ever been water skiing. Yes, you know when

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and miscommunication on the defensive end just over and over.

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Speaker 2: Especially Dangelo Russell. They're giving up but tray less dunk underneath,

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Speaker 2: I just find I would be he'd be just very

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Speaker 2: Feels like game to game. I mean, Wolf fans can

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Speaker 2: It's like he's sort of Ltizo in a way because

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Speaker 2: especially that play. And back to the Kings, You're right,

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Speaker 2: Now we need to know his career. Oh yes, four

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Speaker 2: Going to say reason right, I bet him and Malik

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Speaker 2: remember we had like it was like a couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks ago on this podcast. I know I was specifically

440
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Speaker 2: sort of calling him out or like even just pointing

441
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,360
Speaker 2: out like, ooh, not maybe a lead guy on a team. Right,

442
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 2: We're seeing his limitations with no Booker, with no Chris Paul,

443
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,160
Speaker 2: because he was he was having a lot of games

444
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,879
Speaker 2: like ten points, rough shooting nights, you know, sort of

445
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 2: disappearing within games, and they were losing a lot. But

446
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 2: they've racked up a bunch of wins here, and I

447
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 2: think a large part is he's like sort of, you know,

448
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 2: found his footing as sort of their go to guy,

449
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,879
Speaker 2: shooting a much better percentage. Obviously still playing like his

450
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 2: forty minutes per game here, hitting the three ball, so

451
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Speaker 2: you know, he shutting me up a little bit and

452
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,400
Speaker 2: it's getting maybe just more comfortable as he got those

453
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 2: reps playing the lead guy here was still no Booker

454
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Speaker 2: in this lineup, and they've won here a significant amount

455
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Speaker 2: of game style with Suns. You know, they beat the Nets,

456
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 2: they beat the Pacers, they beat the Grizzlies, they beat

457
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,959
Speaker 2: the Hornets. Okay, lost a close one of the MAVs

458
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,360
Speaker 2: in Rivals week that was the dinwitty game, and then

459
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 2: followed up by beating the Spurs on the road and

460
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,719
Speaker 2: then took care of the Raptors at home. They've had

461
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Speaker 2: a lot of home games, but you know, they're they're

462
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,439
Speaker 2: they're right here. And we might as well show the

463
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 2: Western Conference standings too, because it is a.

464
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Speaker 3: It's a mess.

465
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Speaker 2: Not a lot of games separating, you know, really the

466
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Speaker 2: third seeded Kings hell down to the tenth eleven's twelfth

467
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 2: team we could have included on this graphic if you

468
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Speaker 2: wanted to kept it cut it off at the play

469
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Speaker 2: in teams there, but yeah, anything.

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Speaker 1: The Warriors being fifth, Yeah, yeah, big time. That jumps

471
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Speaker 1: out back to back road wins for the first time

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Speaker 1: this season.

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Speaker 4: Wow, four and two on the road. In January, Andrew

474
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Speaker 4: Wiggins back last night fifteen points and I think it's

475
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Speaker 4: thirteen shots. But at least they got him back only

476
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Speaker 4: a game and a hack bath from fourth, two and

477
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Speaker 4: a half back from third. Don't let the Warriors get

478
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Speaker 4: home court advantage. If you're in the Western Conference, you

479
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Speaker 4: want to beat them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the scary part for a team like the Kings,

481
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Speaker 1: who have a really long trip here before the All

482
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Speaker 1: Star break. The Clippers are coming on. So yeah, the

483
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Speaker 1: Kings are the warrior spot, I would say, for they're

484
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Speaker 1: just in a tough spot because of the the road

485
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 1: trip coming up. Oh, Shippers and Warriors right on their butts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, it would just suck to be

487
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 2: the Kings haven't been the playoffs in sixteen years. They're

488
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Speaker 2: in the third seed. They're the feel good story of

489
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 2: the of the league. Really, the light the beam, all that.

490
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Speaker 2: Maybe two All Stars and then yeah, one one bad

491
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Speaker 2: week where they you know, dropped.

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Speaker 3: Three in a row.

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Speaker 2: Let's say to some tough competition, they could drop all

494
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Speaker 2: the way down into like a playing spot.

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Speaker 3: Sure, I mean just like that.

496
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Speaker 4: So I mean that's gonna suck. It's honestly gonna be

497
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Speaker 4: tough for the Kings. Regardless if they stayed third. Yeah,

498
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Speaker 4: they're getting a matchup with the team who's gonna have

499
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Speaker 4: a ton more postseason experience. Yeah yeah, yeah, no matter

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Speaker 4: who they end up playing. So I don't know, let's

501
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Speaker 4: just enjoy it right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why it was a good oneam. Yeah, that's

503
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Speaker 1: why it was a good win last night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh okay.

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Speaker 2: As for the Eastern Conference wins, we had Kyrie Irving

506
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Speaker 2: scoring twenty six nets, beat the Lakers one twenty one

507
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Speaker 2: to one oh four. No Lebron James no ad in

508
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Speaker 2: that game, Ben Caro and the Magic rallied from an

509
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 2: early hole. I think they were down twenty one to

510
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 2: the Sixers really early in this game, but they win

511
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Speaker 2: one nineteen one oh nine Philly. You know, the talk

512
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Speaker 2: of the town that that seven game win streak was

513
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 2: it everybody going nuts and beat out playing Yo Kitchen.

514
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Speaker 2: And then they lose to a very pesky Magic team

515
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Speaker 2: who's actually playing really well as the last month. And

516
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Speaker 2: then the Wizards ended get this, a twenty two game

517
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Speaker 2: skid in San Antonio. The Wizards had not won in

518
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Speaker 2: San Antonio since nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 4: That's a sizable skid.

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Speaker 2: That's a that's a skid where you throw the underwear out.

521
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Speaker 2: You are not washing that you were, you know, I

522
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Speaker 2: don't care how great your washing machine is, how high

523
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Speaker 2: efficient it is, I don't care how much tie you

524
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Speaker 2: put in that thing.

525
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Speaker 4: If you've got a stained stick, oh you'd.

526
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Speaker 3: Ruined, you'd ruined the stake. And if you're throwing you out,

527
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Speaker 3: it's that bad of a skid.

528
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Speaker 2: And they snapped it. They got some fresh underwear. They

529
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Speaker 2: beat the Spurs one twenty seven, one oh six. Any

530
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Speaker 2: thoughts on any of those three games?

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Speaker 1: Ye had? December eleventh, ninety nine, the last time the

532
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: Wizards beat the Spurs. They're starting Rickland and Juwan Howard

533
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Speaker 1: and inn Ike Austin.

534
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: Austin most player Ike Austin Not that year maybe, but.

535
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Richmond watch Richmond was a Wizard. And then Jordan

536
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: stole a spot. Steeler anyway Steeler, Yeah, so that was

537
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Speaker 1: a while. I think Denny Abdia just just quick quick

538
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Speaker 1: Tizard's love for him. He was ten to twelve last

539
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: night using his body. It's in a different, a different

540
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: evolution of his game. I thought, just watching him yesterday,

541
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Speaker 1: he's young, and I think he's just adding the physical

542
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: nature to his game, just getting into the lane and

543
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: pushing guys around a bit. It is the Spurs, but

544
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Speaker 1: I think he's getting a little bit more confident. The

545
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: trade of Ruyachmur opened up some minutes for him, and

546
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Speaker 1: he's played in thirty in three of the last four games.

547
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Speaker 1: So I think he's getting an increased role and increased confidence.

548
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Speaker 1: I think Denny just needs the confidence. He's got the game.

549
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: He's got the game. I love Denny.

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Speaker 2: Any thoughts on those three games?

551
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Speaker 4: Well, according to the AP, Denny abdy has new nickname

552
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 4: is Turbo.

553
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Speaker 3: I saw this.

554
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna check. Let me check Basketball Reference. See how

555
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: quick they are at that?

556
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't imagine. Yeah. Apparently Monty Morris gave him

557
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 4: the nickname all the two were playing one on one.

558
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 4: Morris playfully remarked that Abdiya's hustle reminded him of the

559
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 4: turbo and square move in NBA two K twenty five.

560
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 4: For Turbo Turbodo, I don't look at.

561
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Speaker 3: Turbo.

562
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Speaker 2: Let me plays hard. He plays hard? Yeah, but yeah,

563
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Speaker 2: yeah fast no.

564
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Speaker 4: Not fast no, But he's got an American gladiator's nickname, now, Turbo, Yeah,

565
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 4: was there an American gladiator name oh yeah, yeah, there

566
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Speaker 4: had to.

567
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Speaker 1: Be perfect a woman female.

568
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Speaker 3: No, I thought there was a man Turbo.

569
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Speaker 4: I can sort of picture of the Nitro turbot to

570
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Speaker 4: be a lot of them eventually.

571
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Turbo, there was a Turbo.

572
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Speaker 2: His name was gal and Tomlinson. He excelled in most events.

573
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Speaker 2: He was maybe the best athlete on the team. Jeez, wow,

574
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: nice Jenny Abdiya the best athlete on the Washington Wizards.

575
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: He's probably a better athlete than like Kuzma Porzingis.

576
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's Turbo.

577
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Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that was a career high twenty

578
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Speaker 1: five for it.

579
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Speaker 4: Yes, I was surprising, striking man. You can see the

580
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 4: resemblance to Abdia totally. Tank Top Side Park would.

581
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Speaker 2: Be cool if like one team, actually the Wizards, I mean,

582
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: I know they have a bunch of alternates now, but

583
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: they do have the red, white and blue color palette.

584
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,719
Speaker 2: Very American gladiators, like like everybody on the team had

585
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 2: an American gladiator name. Yeah, Turbo and Nitro and Iron.

586
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 4: Yeah she was deaf right, that's right, Yeah, that.

587
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 3: Was your right.

588
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it will be lace, Daniel Gaffer, I think would

589
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 4: be lace. My other takeaway from this.

590
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Speaker 3: I agree with that. I can see that ahead.

591
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 4: But my other takeaway the Sixers they missed Rivals week. Yeah,

592
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 4: I think they missed Rivals week. They came out the

593
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 4: Magic in the first quarter and basically like this game's over. Yeah,

594
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 4: let's just chill here. And Beid had twenty one in

595
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 4: the first half, just nine in the second half.

596
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 3: Uh.

597
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 4: You know, they won a lot of games in a

598
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 4: row and the Magic are a scrappy team. Plus this

599
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 4: is pretty rare. Actually, the Sixers were on the last

600
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 4: end of a back to back to back. They had

601
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 4: to win against the Nuggets on Saturday, then they partied

602
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 4: with Meek Mill and Little Baby at the Eagles game

603
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 4: on Sunday. Then they had to go to Orlando for

604
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 4: a game on Monday. So you can understand a schedule

605
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 4: loss there for Philadelphia.

606
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Speaker 3: I hadn't thought about that.

607
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, though Embiid and Harden did play, so yes, yes.

608
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: But they like, oh, they're upe there. In the second half,

609
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: after that big victory, or after the big lead that

610
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: they got out to, they just chilled and the Magic

611
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: were playing hard. Marcarl Fultz was getting physical. Mo Wagner

612
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: got Embiid embarrassed and.

613
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 4: Beat in the fourth quarter a couple of times, I agree.

614
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 4: EmpId flopped on a drive by Moe Wagner that was

615
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 4: comical to me.

616
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he bit on a pump fake. Yeah, very strange,

617
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: very strange. It's going on Wagner's highlight reel for his career.

618
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 3: I imagine, I think. So.

619
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty stuff, and the nets came through

620
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: with their bench. The depth on their bench was monstrous.

621
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: While I was watching, I heard the stat that they

622
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: had sixty points from their bench specifically, and now I

623
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: keep adding it up and it keeps getting higher and higher.

624
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: So I don't even want to say the number that

625
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm seeing here, but it keeps getting higher and higher.

626
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: It's something. I think it's sixty six if I'm seeing

627
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: that correctly. But big games from Patty and Cam Thomas,

628
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: who is a bucket off the bench, both had twenty

629
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: one off the bench.

630
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 4: Camp Thomas smiled, Oh, he doesn't smile.

631
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 3: Made him smile, Yeah, he said, he doesn't smile. Funny

632
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, that's true.

633
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 4: That seems a joke, That's what he said.

634
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: He was laughing.

635
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And for the Magic just back to them quickly.

636
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: They are the best worst team in the league.

637
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: Right, Magic.

638
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: Sure, it's set up here like like a enjoy Walking's

639
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: team with the Wagner's obviously Ban Carro is like hear

640
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: like we've said, like from week one, continue to play

641
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,719
Speaker 2: really really well when Carter Junior like, my pieces are

642
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: fun and their record I don't have it in front

643
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: of me, but it was going around like after a

644
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: very very brutal start where they lost a ton of games,

645
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 2: it's very respectable over like the last month.

646
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 4: It's like I think they started six and twenty and

647
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 4: then they're like fifteen and eleven. Yeah, pretty good. So

648
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 4: it's between them and the Lakers for the best bad team.

649
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: They're spicy.

650
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: Let's see the Eastern Conference standings real quick there, JD.

651
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: Thank you sir a JD. If you're feeling frisky, just

652
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: press a button over there. See what happens. Yeah, Celtics

653
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: still at the top there, two and a half game

654
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: lead over the Bucks. Six Ers drop a half game

655
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: back of them with that loss to the Magic nets

656
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: hanging around calves there there's the heat and then in

657
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: the play in right now it's Nick's Hawk's Wizards Bulls.

658
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: The Wizards, I forgot to say, are on a six

659
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: game win streak.

660
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Speaker 4: Five of them are on the road to I know,

661
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 4: I know, I know the gladiators themselves.

662
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, they are in the gauntlet. Yes, yeah, Turbo. Wow.

663
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: He had long hair and then and then short hair.

664
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Speaker 3: This guy maybe maybe.

665
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: He lost I don't know in the eliminator, got caught

666
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: in the gears. His hair came up.

667
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. I've told you the story.

668
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: I was in shop class when a girl named Holly's

669
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Speaker 2: hair got caught in the leathe That was not a

670
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: great dance hair, A good job, I believe it.

671
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Speaker 3: I want to say it was. I want to say

672
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Speaker 3: it was Rob.

673
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: A man named Rob hit the emergency button that they

674
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: always tell you about, but yeah, to shut everything down.

675
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: It's quick thinking because I mean it still wasn't good.

676
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: Hair was lost. Yeah, she had very long hair and

677
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: it was man shop class. We also had a shot

678
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: teacher who was missing a thumb, like from the band

679
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: Saw like years prior.

680
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 4: This guy's legit.

681
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like what like when he was giving that

682
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: first lesson, he's like, don't do this because this laugh

683
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: and then this thumb's gone, Like holy crap.

684
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 4: Which one teach one?

685
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, I wasn't given guitar lessons. I bet no

686
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: thumbs or one lack of thumb. It'd be tough. You

687
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: could use a pick. I guess, oh no, I guess

688
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: you don't really need them. But no holding guitar anyway.

689
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: That's too bad about Holly.

690
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: She's okay, she's okay.

691
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: Anything any more thoughts before we take our first break

692
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: on any of those games.

693
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: Last good.

694
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Speaker 2: Let's take a first break and when we come back.

695
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: We got a bunch of hypothetical trades in grade. That

696
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: trade don't go anymore. All right, if you're here live

697
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Speaker 2: right now on YouTube, take a second and give a

698
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Speaker 2: thumbs up for the shop teachers out there and there,

699
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: uh and they're missing thumbs.

700
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: That was a great comment there in the street.

701
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: A thumb, that's right, Just hit that. That little thumbs

702
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: up helps us out.

703
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 3: It doesn't.

704
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: No one really knows. But we like to see those

705
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: films very.

706
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Speaker 3: High in numbers. Yes we do, yes, okay, what were

707
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: we gonna do? Yeah? Okay?

708
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: We got this latest rumor dump from Schams at the

709
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: Athletic implies that the Raptors are still trying to figure

710
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: out what they're gonna do at the deadline. All right,

711
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: are the Raptors buyers. Are the Raptors sellers? Are they tinkering?

712
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: Are they rebuilding this whole damn thing, you know, around

713
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: a Scottie Barnes or something. But one of the juicier

714
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: tidbits in Sham's piece yesterday was related to Raptors head

715
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: coach Nick Nurse. Quote there's been frustration throughout the roster

716
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: and staff with the team's play at points of this season,

717
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: and that has been directed toward Nurse at times. Two

718
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: according to sources. End quote. Nurse will be entering the

719
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: final season of his current contract this off season. Is

720
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: Raptors coach Nick Nurse on the hot seat? I asked

721
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: you that task.

722
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.

723
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: Now does he deserve some blame for maybe how disappointing

724
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: the season's gone?

725
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I understand the locker room may not be

726
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: entirely happy with Nick, But I just think this is

727
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: a case of everything has gone to poop in the

728
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: Raptor's locker room. No one's winning, And I think that's

729
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: that's just the case. That's the what what always happens.

730
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna get some blame, everybody's deserved some blame. But

731
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: he's signed through next season. He's making eight milli as

732
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: the report goes, that's plenty for him. I think you

733
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: should be happy with that. I don't think he was

734
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: unhappy with this contract by any means. And I think

735
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: he's going to see this through until twenty twenty four

736
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: and then you know, we'll decide where we go.

737
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 2: She don't usually like to have a head coach like

738
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: a lame duck head coach in their you know, final

739
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: season of a contract. That's they don't generally NB teams

740
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: don't do that. Sure, not that they couldn't come to

741
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: a new contract in the off season.

742
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: Nick Nurse has earned whatever he wants to me. If

743
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: he wants to coach as a lame duck, fine, If

744
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: they want to discuss an extension of the off season,

745
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: also fine.

746
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: The better coaches in the league and.

747
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: Is he has not gotten the most out of his

748
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: players this season? There's no doubt, not pressed the right buttons.

749
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: Did he believe the Barnes hype train before like everybody

750
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: else and gave him a little too much responsibility? I

751
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: would say yes because it hasn't worked out, but that

752
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: maybe on Scotty Barnes as well. So I do believe

753
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: in Nick Nurse to some degree, so is he on

754
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: the hot seat? I think no chance that they're going

755
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: to fire him between now and the offseason. No, no chance.

756
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. I think it's more lame duck than

757
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 4: hot seat if you're going for the term here, because

758
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 4: he's gonna be going into his last season to the contract,

759
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 4: maybe the message is wearing thin a little bit. The

760
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 4: players are playing a ton of minutes. He's a little

761
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 4: bit of a Tibbs junior. This season three of the

762
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 4: top twenty ten minutes per game Raptors last season. For

763
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 4: the top twenty year before that, it was pascalen Fred.

764
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 4: It's basically about a playoff rotation for three seasons for

765
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 4: the Raptors, and the results are just not quite there

766
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 4: the way they were right after the championship season. You know,

767
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 4: they won a playoff series, then they didn't win a

768
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 4: playoff series, and now they're going to be fighting to

769
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 4: even get into the playoffs. So maybe next year is

770
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 4: the last year for Nurse. I don't think they'll fire

771
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 4: him though, maybe give him a chance to come back,

772
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 4: or he might want to go somewhere else as well,

773
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 4: depending on what the Raptors do. Here at the deadline.

774
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you said it their task. There is

775
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: blame to go around to everybody, including like the Raptor's

776
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 2: front office with like limitations of this roster. I mean,

777
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: they need a center or a backup center at the

778
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: very least now the precious is back, they could use

779
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 2: some more guard play, like there are holes in the roster.

780
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: But then Nurse has not been amazing. What he's done

781
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: with some of the guys coming off the bench has

782
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: been perplexing at times, especially Chris Bouchet, who at like

783
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: times is thrown out there. Times you don't see for weeks,

784
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: it feels like and so it's odd, and he's like,

785
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: I get it, he's trying to like figure things out.

786
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: There's been injuries and all of that, And then there's

787
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: blame on the players too, like in terms of like

788
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: stretches where they've played poorly.

789
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, I.

790
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: Don't think he's going anywhere though, And I still think

791
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: Nick Nurse, I do believe is one of the better coaches.

792
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: Has proven he's one of the better coaches in the

793
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: league in terms of creativity and trying things. But that

794
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: part of like running guys maybe into the ground can

795
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: catch up to you as an organization. We'll see a

796
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: lot of people still think Raptors might make a move

797
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: here with nine or ten days to go, Are they

798
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: moving off one of their core pieces? Are they doing

799
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,479
Speaker 2: something to either try and salvage the season or look

800
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: forward to the future with some of their star players.

801
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: We'll find out anyway. That deadline is it's like less

802
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: than ten days away.

803
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 3: Nine days. What do you call it?

804
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: Nine days or ten days? It's February ninth. Today's the

805
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 2: thirty first nine.

806
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 3: Okay, nine days away?

807
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: I go nine counting nin and yesterday.

808
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: Bleacher Reports Dan Favallei he dropped his ultimate twenty twenty

809
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: three NBA trade deadline cheat sheet. Okay, this thing had

810
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: it all. Untouchable players, notable trade assets, whether teams will

811
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: be buyers or sellers at the deadline, incoming and outcoming

812
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: draft picks, salary cap situations, and most importantly, hypothetical trades

813
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: for each team to pursue or at least consider. You know,

814
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: I picked a few of my favorites. So let's run

815
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Speaker 2: back a very popular segment here on No Dunk's called.

816
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: Grade that trade. Yeah, we're in the classroom. We're grading trades.

817
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

818
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: While we talked about the Mavericks they got to get

819
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: Lucas some help. We event talked about Dangela Russell being

820
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: like at times sort of a borderline. No, he's not

821
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: an All Star, but you know what I mean, looking

822
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 2: like an All Star at times and then looking like

823
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: a very bad player at other times. Anyway, Dan Favalley

824
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: here has a trade MAVs Wolves. Mavericks get D'Angelo Russell.

825
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 2: The Wolves get Tim Hardaway, Junior Dwight Powell and the

826
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven second round pick, so a future second

827
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: round pick. Thoughts would you like to grade that trade?

828
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: T K.

829
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well this is I forgot.

830
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: I forgot we were grading well, hold on, hold on,

831
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: I don't know why there's a Lakers logo here.

832
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: He used to play. D'angela Russell used to play for

833
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: the Lakers.

834
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: We're having one hell of a day in Minnesota.

835
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: Used to have the Lakers, Minnesota Lakers, many moons, a

836
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: lot of lakes there.

837
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 4: I will grade this trade.

838
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: Water skiing happened.

839
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: Okay, D'Angelo Russell is going to the MAVs in this

840
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: hypothetical trade. The Wolves get Tim Hardaway, Junior Duy Peal

841
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 2: and that's future second one.

842
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we were just working out the kinks here

843
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: before trade deadline, that's right. Yeah, we'll be negotiations.

844
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't mind it. I'll give it a B,

845
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: solid B, solid B on the old report card. It

846
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 4: would be the Mavericks going all in on offense because

847
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 4: eventually you're gonna have to play Luca Obviously, you're gonna

848
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 4: have to play D'Angelo Russell because you just traded for him,

849
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 4: and you're gonna have to play Spencer Didnouody because he's

850
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 4: one of your best players. So you got those three.

851
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 4: Christian would eventually, whenever he's back, that's four offense first players.

852
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 4: Dorian Phinney Smith would guess have to guard every single

853
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 4: player out there. He's likely the only other guy that

854
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 4: you're going. But with Russell's contract coming into an end

855
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 4: at the end of the season, this gives the Mavericks

856
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 4: a chance to chase again, to chase somebody in the

857
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 4: off season when they also have access to a bunch

858
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 4: of picks. I like it a little bit less. For

859
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 4: the timber Wolves. You get Tim Hardaway Junior on a

860
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: long deal at a decent price, but Dwight Powell could

861
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,959
Speaker 4: maybe replace nas Reed if Minnesota decides to trade nas Reed.

862
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 4: So I think it's okay, you know, I think this

863
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 4: is the kind of trade where it's like okay for

864
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 4: both teams. Yeah, which means it's realistic.

865
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I go lower. I'm not really excited about it.

866
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,959
Speaker 1: I can see it from the MAVs perspective, they get help.

867
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: I think that was the way this trade was designed.

868
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: Dangel Russell comes in obviously some defensive worries big time.

869
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: But you do get another ball handler, you get some offense,

870
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: but you lack some defense and that's a big problem.

871
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: I mean, he really is not as good as Jalen

872
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: Brunson was last year, and so you you you're just

873
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: gonna be struggling on the defensive end. So that's the

874
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: worry there. You gave up, you know, a decent amount

875
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: for him. On the other side, the Wolves there getting

876
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: Tim Hardaway, dwy Pellet and that twenty twenty second round pick.

877
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: I don't like it all that much. I think you

878
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: see Tim Hardaway will be taking minutes from like connecting

879
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: type guys like maybe Torrian Prince, Ky Kylie Anderson, a

880
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 1: young Jalen Noel or Austin Rivers even or Jordan McLoughlin even,

881
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: I don't think that's really recipe for success for them.

882
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: And Dwight Powell. Yeah, maybe long term he helps fill

883
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: the whole Nas Read, but he's not gonna play now

884
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: behind go Bear Towns and Read. He's not gonna play

885
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: this season. I don't think. I think the Timberwolves would

886
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: be smarter a little little u turn here if they

887
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: go to Denver, who is rumored to be trading Bones

888
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: Highland and they need depth. If you go two for

889
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: one with your depth for Bones Highland. This doesn't work

890
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: out exactly, but it could with their trade exception and

891
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: a third team Torrian Prince and Nas Reed for Bones Highland,

892
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: I think would help the Nuggets. They just need to

893
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 1: get They get a backup center, they get a little

894
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: wing help and Torrian Prince just guys who play hard

895
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: off the bench, and you know it can be it

896
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: can be a smart connector and you don't have Owns

897
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: Highlands shot selection problems that the Nuggets have been struggling

898
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: with a little bit. But the Timberwolves can you know,

899
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: take a flyer on a young guy that can help

900
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: out just score the ball because they need a little

901
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: bit more dynamic scoring, and that's why Tim Hardaway kind

902
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: of fits for the Wolves. But I think that would

903
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: be a smarter move. But I hear the idea there.

904
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on here, JD to our next

905
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: trade here from Dan fa Valley of Bleacher Report. Pelicans

906
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: receive Malik Beasley. The Jazz receive Davante Graham, Herb Jones,

907
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: and a twenty twenty four second round pick by way

908
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 2: of the Bulls. So Beasley the key piece here going

909
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: to the Pelicans. Some three point shooting guy gets them up.

910
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: It's been a decent clip and the Jazz get Devanta

911
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: Graham and Herb Jones. There any thoughts you gotta started here?

912
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: Task grade that trade pels very high? They're high. They

913
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: are happy with the return of Herb Jones, especially for

914
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: Malik beas Jess. Yeah, the Jazz got to be extremely

915
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: happy to get Herb Jones from Malik Beasley. You hear

916
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: Danny Ainge wants the og An Andobe rumored types, so

917
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Herb Jones would be a little

918
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: bit of a downgrade from that, but they want those

919
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: three and D type guys to go around who they

920
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: believe is a star and is a star this season

921
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: in Lowry Mark and so I think it makes a

922
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: lot of sense from their perspective and from the Jazz. Yeah,

923
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: you're getting a shooter and a score. It does make

924
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: sense on both sides. Will Malik beasily get the minutes

925
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: on this team because they are pretty log jammed if

926
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: you want to score, it sort of makes sense. Giving

927
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: up on Herb Jones's would peeve a lot of Palace fans,

928
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: I think, But with the way Traymer for you, the

929
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: third has come along, I guess you give up on them.

930
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: I don't. It seems like a little bit much for

931
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: Malik Beasley, but it does make logical sense with their

932
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: rotation to have a score on their team.

933
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Pelicans definitely need shooting, but I think the

934
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 4: Jazz have to love Herb Jones to do this and

935
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 4: also pay the next two years of Devonte Graham's salary.

936
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 4: So I personally wouldn't do this from either perspective, Cuz

937
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 4: you know, I don't think I want Malie Beasley taking

938
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 4: minutes from Trey Murphy, the third, who definitely has surpassed

939
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 4: Herb Jones in my book, And also the way the

940
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 4: Pelicans have struggled with Zion and ingram Out, I don't

941
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 4: think they need to push all in on this season.

942
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 4: I think they should make moves in the off season.

943
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: And you know, there's a lot of hype around Herb

944
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 4: Jones last year that's definitely fallen away this season as

945
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 4: he's really struggled with this shot but a promising prospect.

946
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think I would do this just to

947
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 4: potentially get Beasley Chuck in threes.

948
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 2: Okay, drop that one there, JD. Let's move on the Grizzlies.

949
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: They're getting Kyle Kuzma. Oh what cous going to the Grizzlies.

950
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: According to Dan Favelli's hypothetical trade here, Wizards received Danny Green,

951
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: David the Body, Roddy, and a twenty twenty four first

952
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 2: round pick lottery protected Okay, yeah, what do you think

953
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: Kus to the Grizzly.

954
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 4: Send it, send it, send it you like it. This

955
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 4: is a great trade. Great trade both sides, great trade

956
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 4: both sides. This is Kuzma is exactly what the Grizzlies need, shooting, defense, rebounding, size, veteranship,

957
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 4: if you will. The only concern for me is that

958
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 4: the Grizzlies love to draft, and they actually hit on

959
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 4: late first rounders. So they want to trade a late

960
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 4: first round pick for somebody who's twenty seven years old

961
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 4: who they then have to sign to a bigger deal

962
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 4: in the offseason. That would give me a little bit

963
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 4: of pause. But I think Kuzma's a difference making player

964
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 4: for a team like the Grizzlies, So I would be

965
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 4: fine giving up on the idea of Danny Green, who

966
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 4: will see what he has left in the tank when

967
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 4: he gets back on the court. David Roddy an interesting

968
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 4: prospect and interesting shaped guy at the very least, and

969
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 4: then that picked. So I don't know the Grizzlies. I

970
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 4: think the thing the Grizzlies are most excited about that

971
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 4: they would be given up is that first round pick,

972
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 4: because they like having the cost certainty of that kind

973
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 4: of stuff. But I think it's worth it for a

974
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 4: guy like this.

975
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: Is the Grizzlies in theoriyous hypothetical like going for it

976
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: here seeing the opening, saying, damn we could we could

977
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: get to a files here, and Kuzma like, maybe bumps

978
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: us up a level or two.

979
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: You like us?

980
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think they should go for it. The Danny

981
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: Green part of it is maybe they just try to

982
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: see what Danny Green gives them in that Kuzma role.

983
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: He is that literally, you know, an old version of

984
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: Kyle Kuzman away three time champ does the three and

985
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: d Ing has some attitude there to help out, you know,

986
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: won't get in the way. Kuz I think will be

987
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: fine with the attitude that the Grizzlies have, like he'll he'll,

988
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: he'll fit in, So it makes sense.

989
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: The problem is you'd have to pay him that.

990
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 4: That's the problem.

991
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: I think they have enough first round picks to say

992
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: buy to one of them. It looks like, you know,

993
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: reading their their chart here, like they have a bunch

994
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: to send. So I think they'd be fine sending one.

995
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: You'd get a talented guy in Kuzma. But the worrisome

996
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: part is does Kuzma just you know, does he blend

997
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: into this team. He's not a starter on this team.

998
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: I highly doubt with is it Who's he gonna start over?

999
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: Jared Jackson Junior and Steven Adams have to start? He's

1000
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: gonna start over Dylan Brooks? I doubt it, all right,

1001
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: I don't think so, So get you guess.

1002
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: In terms of matchups, and maybe you don't start at them.

1003
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 3: You know there are.

1004
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: Secular match No, it makes it makes sense. We will

1005
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: kus be fine with that long term. I don't know.

1006
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if he signs there, so I guess

1007
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: that that's the worrisome part for the Grizzlies.

1008
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: Okay, overall though, you guys seem to like that one.

1009
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: Good Dan, All right, next one, let's go to the

1010
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference Miami Heat. They are the winners of boy

1011
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: On Bogdanovic. Again, hypothetical trade here. The Pistons in return

1012
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: get Duncan Robinson in that contract, Jovic Nikolo Jovic not Yokic.

1013
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 2: Okay uh and a twenty three first round pick top

1014
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: four protected and a twenty eight second round pick. Bogdanovitch

1015
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: going to the Heat, GK, what do you think of

1016
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: this one?

1017
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 3: Here?

1018
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 2: Is there something to it?

1019
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 4: It's great if you're the Heat. This is exactly what

1020
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 4: they need. Boy On Bogdanovich, a shooter with some size.

1021
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 4: He would basically be their Jay Crowder slash PJ. Tucker replacement,

1022
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 4: the stretch four that they have kind of been lacking

1023
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 4: since those guys left the team. I don't necessarily know

1024
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 4: if this is the best deal the Pistons could get, however,

1025
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 4: because if this is a top four protected pick after

1026
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 4: this season, yeah, the Pistons would be getting it from Miami,

1027
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 4: but it's gonna be what in the teens, maybe in

1028
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 4: the twenties. Perhaps they can find a better deal there.

1029
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 4: And I don't know if they necessarily want to pay

1030
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 4: Duncan Robinson the next three seasons of his contract, though

1031
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 4: he did play college basketball for the University of Michigan,

1032
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 4: so you could pitch him as a Michigan man returning home,

1033
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 4: or you could more likely try and re rout him

1034
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 4: somewhere else. But there don't seem to be that many

1035
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 4: takers here, so it seems unlikely to me that this

1036
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 4: would get done. But I can see why Miami would

1037
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 4: want to.

1038
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Miami send it, in no doubt for them, But

1039
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: similar to the Jazz Pelicans deal, you'd be getting Duncan

1040
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: Robinson's contract back if you're the Pistons, and you wouldn't

1041
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: be getting a great first round pick either.

1042
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 2: So but a first round pick, and if you're high

1043
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 2: on Yovich as a potential.

1044
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: You gotta be high on Yo. Yeah, sure, So I'm

1045
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: not sure I'm not sure if you if they are

1046
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 1: high on Yovich, but I do think the Pistons receiving

1047
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: a first round pick is what they're going to get

1048
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: if they do move off of Boyan Mgdanovich. All this

1049
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: posturing is all fun games right now? Two first round

1050
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: picks bring it ain't gonna happen. The Jazz traded Boyan

1051
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: Mugdanovic last year to the Pistons for Kelly Olinik, Saban

1052
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: Lee and cash, and this return would be great for

1053
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 1: Troy Weaver and the Pistons. This would be an upgrade

1054
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: in that first round pick. Especially, you gotta be happy

1055
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: with the first round pick. Again, you'd probably want to

1056
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: be a little bit better and you probably like, I

1057
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: don't know how high they are on Yovic, but yeah,

1058
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think they do this because contract

1059
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: for Robinson maybe not the best player that they can

1060
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: get and try and get a better first round pick.

1061
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, it makes sense, go get a great pick.

1062
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: I think that's what the Pistons should be looking for, all.

1063
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 2: Right, Final one. A lot of these trades in Dan's

1064
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: Ultimate twenty twenty three NBA Trade deadline cheat sheet Very realistic, right,

1065
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: like very like you know not maybe the biggest, biggest,

1066
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: biggest names in the world, but you're like, okay, I

1067
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: can see how that could help that team, and that

1068
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: could help that team. There was a couple three team deals,

1069
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: you know, it gets a little convoluted, but this one

1070
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 2: actually like was like whoa what huh?

1071
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 3: I wanted to throw it at everybody.

1072
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 2: Here it is the Hornets trading for Ben Simmons and

1073
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: Joe Harris, with the Nets getting in return Gordon Hayward, Kelly,

1074
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 2: Hubray Junior and Mason Plumley the plumb Dog the dog.

1075
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: So this one it stopped me in my tracks. But

1076
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: I need you to grade that trade Hornets nets hypothetical

1077
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons to Charlotte and Hayward, Kelly and the plum

1078
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 2: Dog going to Brooklyn.

1079
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 3: What do you think?

1080
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 4: Why would the Hornets do this?

1081
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 1: Man? Why would the Net?

1082
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 3: This is why?

1083
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 4: Okay, Unfortunately this is an f because I just can't

1084
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 4: understand why Charlotte would do this for Ben Simmons. That's

1085
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 4: that's why they would do this.

1086
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean it's not like those three guys

1087
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: that are going to Brooklyn are part of their long

1088
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 2: term plans, right.

1089
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: I think we'd agree with that.

1090
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: So it's the hope of like Ben Simmons fingers crossed,

1091
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: still enjoys basketball, would still like to play at an

1092
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 2: All star level, can be a difference maker. That's you

1093
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: your You're praying and hoping that's the case.

1094
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 1: But even this version of Ben Simmons that we're seeing

1095
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: right now, a solid defender who scores, you know, for

1096
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: a six minute stretch every game, is better than anything

1097
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: that the Hornets are sending back.

1098
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 4: Really, Mason Plumley is better than Ben Simmons is right now. Gee,

1099
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 4: I mean, unfortunately, it's true. Mason plays all the time.

1100
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 4: Mason Plumley puts up numbers. Somebody's shooting a better percentage

1101
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 4: from the free throw line the Ben Simmons. I also

1102
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 4: wouldn't do this if I'm the Nets, unless unless, okay,

1103
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 4: I can get PJ Washington instead of Kelly, you ber

1104
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 4: not even playing. It works in the trade machine if

1105
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 4: you throw in a PJ instead of Kelly, I think

1106
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 4: getting Gordon Hayward the few games he's gonna play for

1107
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 4: he's your new Ben Simmons. But maybe, just maybe he's

1108
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 4: healthy in the playoffs and can make a three pointer

1109
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 4: off the bench. PJ Washington, a little bit of size.

1110
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 4: Mason Plumley, a solid center at this point in his career,

1111
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 4: reunited with the Brooklyn Nets, where he was once a

1112
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 4: slam dunk contest participants.

1113
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, he bring him home. I forgot he jumped

1114
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 2: over miles and that don't go.

1115
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right.

1116
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 1: They would use him this year. There's no doubt he'd

1117
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: be a filler for backup minutes and it would help

1118
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: when Nick Claxton gets in foul trouble or whatever. But

1119
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: he is, you know, thirty plus, he's thirty two now

1120
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: and you're trading him for Ben Simmons, who obviously isn't

1121
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 1: the Ben Simmons of old, but it's still still.

1122
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 4: Jason Plumbley is twelve and ten with forrest as the

1123
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 4: game this season.

1124
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 3: He's too good, so.

1125
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: He's hurting the Hornets tank job here.

1126
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 4: Sixty two percent from the free throw line.

1127
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is like sixteen percentage points better than Ben Simmons.

1128
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: Put him in the hall. Baby. Yeah, Ben is not scoring,

1129
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: that's true. That's the problem with Ben Simmons.

1130
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 4: He's also not that good of a defender because he's

1131
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 4: now a big man, because he can't handle the ball

1132
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 4: because he doesn't want to go to the free throw

1133
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 4: line and doesn't look to score. So now he's a

1134
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 4: four to five and he's not a rim defender. He's

1135
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 4: like a point guard. He used to his strength was

1136
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 4: that he was huge and fast enough to guard point guards.

1137
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 4: Now he's a backup center. Mason Plumley knows how to

1138
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 4: play center. I can't believe it. Mason Plumley is better

1139
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 4: than Ben Simmons's wild stuff.

1140
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: Well, Ben Simmons is guarding perimeter players. I know he's

1141
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: forced to guard Biggs, but he is when they need

1142
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: somebody to guard a perimeter player, he goes and does it.

1143
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: He doesn't fit well in Brooklyn at times. Yeah, he

1144
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: plays a big man role because of who they have

1145
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: on their team. They got shooters, but he's still a

1146
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: good defitter. And they The thing is, you would trade

1147
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: for a thirty two year old, and you would just

1148
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: lose the hope that the possibility, the potential of Ben Simmons.

1149
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 4: It's gone. It's gone, and that's agree. It's gone. And

1150
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 4: US fans are already out on Ben Simmons.

1151
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 3: That's why they should do this.

1152
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: That's why the Hornets should also do this trade though,

1153
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 2: because I mean, Charlotte is the exact place Ben Simmons

1154
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 2: should end up in where nobody cares and nobody's watching them,

1155
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 2: and nobody's talking about the misfree throws or the you know,

1156
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: lack of pressure on the rim. Like this would be

1157
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: like basically a Markel Foltz two point zero here, where

1158
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: it's like a guy goes somewhere. He goes to Atlanta,

1159
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, and then it's like suddenly,

1160
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 2: then like a year or two later, was like, oh,

1161
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: he's playing okay, all right, because there's not that scrutiny.

1162
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: It's not that like every possession, every quarter and stuff

1163
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: like that. And that's almost not even the case with

1164
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons anymore, because to tk's point, everyone's like, the

1165
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 2: guy doesn't seem to care. He honestly just doesn't seem

1166
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: to like basketball when it gets down to it, and

1167
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: people are like, all right.

1168
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 3: He is what he is.

1169
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 2: Guy makes thirty five to forty million dollars the next

1170
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: couple of years. Oh geez, okay, but Charlotte is not

1171
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: giving up a ton here, And at least I guess

1172
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: my point is, you can sell the dream of Ben

1173
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 2: Simmons getting back to all star level, Ben Simmons and

1174
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: Charlotte to your fan base with Lamello and whatever more

1175
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 2: than you can Gordon Hayward and a plumb Dog and

1176
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: Kelly Junior.

1177
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 4: Obviously, I agree they should trade those guys. Yeah, I'd

1178
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 4: rather get picks back.

1179
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, that's fair, that's good point.

1180
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: So the Nets traded James Harden for Mason Plumbley in

1181
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: the end. Wow, a guy you could literally get for

1182
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 1: at the you know, on August twenty seventh, when everybody

1183
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: signing for minimum contracts and the Nets traded, you know,

1184
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: if you want to go trade ancestry, they traded Jared

1185
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: Allen for James Harden to get you know, to make

1186
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: this happen in that wild four way deal, and they

1187
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: traded Ben Simmons to the Hornets.

1188
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 4: Is that what's gonna happened for Mason Plumbly.

1189
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: So this is one of those no no, no, no,

1190
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: no yes trades. That's what it sounds like. It sounds like,

1191
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, a shot going up that shouldn't be made.

1192
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: But it's like a trade shouldn't be made. But I

1193
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: guess it's could.

1194
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, it won't but it's a fun one

1195
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: to debate. I'm glad we bought it, slipped it in

1196
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 2: there thanks to Dan. There bleacher repacs to all of

1197
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: those trades. There's another twenty five if you want to

1198
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 2: do those tomorrow. And you get into the three team

1199
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: deals trying to wrap your head around them, Yeah, it's difficult.

1200
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:29,919
Speaker 1: Good.

1201
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 3: This is good, This is good, very good. Two is good.

1202
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 3: Grade that trade?

1203
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: I love it all right?

1204
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: Pick them? Results last night? Oh boy, I took the

1205
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 2: rap soda task. That's a loss. Suns covered the two

1206
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 2: and a half points spread at home.

1207
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 3: TK got it right. He's fourteen and six.

1208
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 2: This guy's on fire.

1209
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 3: I'm six and fourteen.

1210
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: I'm the opposite. You're nine to eleven. Not bad, not great.

1211
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: They're not bad enough.

1212
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 3: Tonight's game, where are we going?

1213
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: We're going to New York Madison Square Garden. Wolla. Lebron

1214
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: and Anthony will be playing.

1215
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: Well, there is Lebron playing, for sure, he'd better be.

1216
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 3: I don't think it's confirmed.

1217
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 4: What did Darvin Ham say? Serious?

1218
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1219
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: I did not see that report from Darvin.

1220
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 2: His knees are sore from dropping to them after being upset.

1221
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: The beck is sore from rolling around on the floor.

1222
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: It's possible. I suppose that he sits out and time's

1223
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: passing of Kareem for when he wants it. But we

1224
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: just expected him to play in Madison Square Garden on

1225
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: this tour here. And I also picked this game because

1226
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: we will be watching it live on playback. The Knicks

1227
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: at home favored by two and a half. Train I

1228
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: think that the Lakers, you know, getting those couple of

1229
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: points will take care of business. Skeets White. He liked

1230
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: the Knicks.

1231
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: Oh man, I've had a brutal run here in January,

1232
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 2: but during our playback games when we have had that

1233
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 2: game as our pick on line, I'm solid.

1234
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: Wow, you're tracking your playback picks. Amazing.

1235
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 2: I think I'm only one to know in those games.

1236
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: But better than six or fourteen, thanks baby. Come on,

1237
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 2: what are you talking about?

1238
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 3: Julius Randall.

1239
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: It's his old team Lebron or not Kidney. I've been

1240
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 2: a struggling thirty eight points for Julius Ryandaalds tonight walking

1241
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: like that, five made threes, brunts in with a cool

1242
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: twenty eight, probably a clutch jumper late, and then we

1243
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 2: get into a foul situation and they cover next by

1244
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: four see you tonight on playback. No reason, now, just

1245
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 2: told you what's gonna happen.

1246
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 3: Let's get to tweeted the night, tweet out the night.

1247
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: Wow, this tweet is a bit of a notice, put

1248
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: you on notice, informational tweet. Really. This is from Foeba

1249
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: Basketball from the FOBA Basketball World Cup Twitter account. I

1250
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: guess there's a tournament happening in August September. It's called

1251
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: the World Cup of Basketball. Hasn't been played in four years,

1252
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: so just put it on the calendar August twenty fifth

1253
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: to September tenth. Happens in Asia and Japan, Indonesia and

1254
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: the Philippines. And let me get you excited for the tournament.

1255
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: Luca will be playing, Yannie will be playing. I assume

1256
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: Victor Wibbin Yama will be playing for France. They'll they'll

1257
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: be there. I assume Shay Gilgess Alexander will be playing

1258
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: for Canada. Is that right, skeets, I think so yeah,

1259
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: So I imagine can it'll be there.

1260
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: They had a lot of the guys on the roster,

1261
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 2: something didn't play because of injury reasons and stuff.

1262
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: But they qualified. Lowry Markin will be there. A couple

1263
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: of Wagner's, lots of Spaniards, some bonus will be there.

1264
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,919
Speaker 2: Be a damn good tournament if all these guys play.

1265
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I imagine, So you know, I went I went conservative.

1266
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: I assume that these guys are all playing. I assume

1267
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: the USA it will be playing. It's very difficult to

1268
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: tell if they qualify, but I think they did qualify

1269
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: and last summer I think Norris Cole led them to

1270
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: some victories or something. Anyway, it's it's it's tough to tell,

1271
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: but I think they will be there. Considering they were

1272
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: knocked out by France in the last World Cup of

1273
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: Basketball in twenty nineteen and the QFS the quarterfinals, Evan

1274
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: Fournier was doing Evan Fournier things, feb of basketball Fournier,

1275
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: So you know, they need a little bit of a.

1276
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 3: Come back.

1277
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: So I assume they'll be there. It feels like they

1278
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: will and it's gonna be a great tournament. And I

1279
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: say this because I watched last year the Euro Tournament

1280
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: a blast. Yeah, USA is not there.

1281
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 3: The USA is in this.

1282
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense why would they be there. But yeah,

1283
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: that's why I was hesitant to say that they're there,

1284
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: because I couldn't find them, but I think.

1285
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 2: They are according to the website there ye world, Yeah, website.

1286
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, or the Wikipedia page did not include them as

1287
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: a qualifier.

1288
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 3: Canada is there though, baby.

1289
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's thirty two teams. I'd assume the United States

1290
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: of America would qualify for the men's basketball tournament.

1291
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 4: Thirty two teams.

1292
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 2: Actually thirty three teams.

1293
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: I hate to well, actually you why?

1294
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: I guess Japan, as the host, are also in there.

1295
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you need to get an extra team in there.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you, man, I'm just

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Speaker 3: reading their website.

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Speaker 1: But that's only seventeen teams right there? The other the other.

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Speaker 3: Right where are the other teams?

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Speaker 1: They haven't qualified yet? Jesus, they still got to qualify.

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Speaker 3: This show is a shit show.

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Speaker 1: It is, well, you should you shouldn't. You shouldn't have

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Speaker 1: said thirty three.

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Speaker 3: That was thirty three.

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Speaker 4: That's the qualifiers run through February twenty twenty three. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: seven countries from the America's War.

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Speaker 2: There should have been more information in this tweet, is what.

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Speaker 3: We're getting at.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, either way, I mean I named you all the

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Speaker 1: qualified participants of stars that are going to be there,

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Speaker 1: and I just thought the USA would have qualified, but

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Speaker 1: I guess they haven't, and North School is gonna have

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Speaker 1: to do some work in February, I guess if they're

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Speaker 1: still part of it. But either way, they're going to

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Speaker 1: be one of the last fifteen teams to qualify.

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Speaker 2: So teams are in the hunt to secure those thirty

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Speaker 2: two spots.

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Speaker 3: It's you're absolutely correct.

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Speaker 1: Get ready for a fun tournament happening late August early September.

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Speaker 1: It's a nice timing for basketball fans. Last year I

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01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: watched the euro Tournament a blast. That's why I love

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01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: Lowry so much because I watched the rise of Lowry

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01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: before he did in the NBA marketing in Yeah, yeah,

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01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a one name guy to me, skeets.

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Speaker 1: But it's up to you if you want to go.

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01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 2: If you want to go to names Lowry you said.

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Speaker 2: When you're saying it like that, I was thinking, No,

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01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: Lowry has the Lowry name over Lowry.

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01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: Not anymore, my man, what the game moves fast, Lowry

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01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: the Lowry was the Lowry for old.

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01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 2: You're trying to tell me if you said Lowry. I

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01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: know it comes down to how you say it. But

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Speaker 2: like you said, Loudy. No, you think people are thinking

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01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 2: marketing in before Kyle Lowry. No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: Basketball fans, no way, no way, you're old.

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Speaker 3: Give your kids. The guy's been around, he's had one

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01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 3: good year.

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01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: We're talking about a guy that's had like been in

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01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 2: the league playing at an All Star level for basically

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Speaker 2: a decade.

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01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: Not anymore years, not a decade. Do you have me

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01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: to say the finisher?

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01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good, that's a good nickname. Let's call him, well,

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01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 3: let's give.

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01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 2: Him an American Gladiators. Let's maybe they have a finished Gladiators.

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01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 4: Finns greatest swimming.

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01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 3: Ice Ice Ice is good ice. Yeah, all right, we're

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01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 3: calling them ice.

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01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 6: It's cold there ice man ice ice ice. Alright, alright,

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01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 6: let's call it there, right, Six time All Star for

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01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 6: call Lowry twenty nineteen champion All MBA, he.

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Speaker 3: Still got it. What was his last All Star game?

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01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 4: Nineteen? Is that?

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01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,439
Speaker 3: What did he make the all start?

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01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: They make it the next year.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen twenty YEA, that's pretty good. Bad he was nineteen

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Speaker 3: and eight. Basically that was a good year. Good year,

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Speaker 3: good year.

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Speaker 2: That's it for today's No Dunks podcast. Well, what a

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Speaker 2: ride your boys? A five star rating and review.

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Speaker 3: We really appreciate that.

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01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 2: shop teachers out there, and for us, make sure you

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Speaker 2: subscribe to No Dunks on YouTube. Join us tonight on

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01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 2: playback seven thirty pm Eastern is Lebron playing? We don't know,

1366
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: but we'll find out together, Lakers Nicks, We'll bounce around,

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01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 2: he calves, clips bulls. It's gonna be a blast. We

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01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 2: gotta come up with a name for it. But right now,

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01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 2: crunch surfing.

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Speaker 3: Is the surf the leading name. No Dunk's watch parties.

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Speaker 3: Who's this? We got icey?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 4: We already had.

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01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 3: An ice that was quick?

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01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 2: Well, man, is that like what she looks like?

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01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 3: Now?

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01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 5: I think it's from a now versus dead?

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01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure looks great, looks great. That ice hasn't melted

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Speaker 3: one bit.

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Speaker 4: Still.

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01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 2: I loved American Gladiators as a kid man. Really they

1382
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 2: tried to bring it back right they did.

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01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 4: It was like.

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01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 2: Involved Colgan was in it for a second too, like hul.

1385
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 4: It should have been a Kurt angle.

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01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: I know then it was he could pull it off.

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01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 2: It was the daughter of a was it Muhammad Ali's daughter? Layla?

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01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 3: Man?

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01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: Why am I sounds familiar.

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01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think these are Oh yeah, these are both are, right,

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01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 2: hul Colgan and h Layla Ali. We're the new hosts

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01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 2: when they tried to bring it back. Sportscaster Van Earl

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01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 2: Ryl announcer.

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01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 4: For that one man.

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01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 2: Main characters Crush, Helga, Venom, Siren, Classic Wolf, Militia toa Titan.

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Speaker 3: And Justice.

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Speaker 2: Those were I guess the New Age Gladiators.

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01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 3: I like Titan. Yeah, good names.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't a Titan in the first one. Maybe maybe

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01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: sounds like it.

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01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they were maybe just like they had

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01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 2: some It's in the locker room, right, Here's how you

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01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 2: fire the guns. Here's how assault works. Oh you're saying

1404
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 2: lose an eye out there, listen up Venom.

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01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: That's how Venom talks.

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01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 2: Now he's more like.

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01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get you.

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01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: In Breakthrough in Batman, I thought it was a new Titan.

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01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: But you think you think that they've trademarked the names

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01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: like I'm Titan, I'm gonna I'm gonna be in the

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01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: new show.

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Speaker 3: I think they just know it could have been Titan,

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01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 3: the son of Titan.

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01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: Sun tight sounds.

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01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 4: We got to see if we can find like an

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01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 4: American gladiators. Replay what we're watching playback.

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Speaker 1: Tonight, Yeah, playback.

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Speaker 2: I'd watch two thousand. Hell yeah, I would watch the

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01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 2: hell out of this show right now. God Wesley, two scoops, Berry,

1420
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 2: given ony and ten percent, you would say all the time.

1421
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,439
Speaker 2: He would always up it one hundred percent one week.

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01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 2: Who's this this is?

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01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 3: She doesn't look like a venom at all. I don't know.

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01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 5: Running out of names.

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01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: To me?

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01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 3: I mean I have red hair. First off?

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01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 2: Wait what, I don't know, like a poison Yeah, okay,

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01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 2: greener red?

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01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: Maybe just like green, like shot si so pink on

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01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: the on the out highlight slime, slime, you little deco.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Just let's just keep naming American gladiators and then JD

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01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 4: will randomly every once in a while.

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01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: Be like, oh yeah, alright, good time man.

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Speaker 3: We keep going.

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01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 4: Playback starts in a wings American gladiator named Wings.

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Speaker 3: Nay, all right, join us tonight.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll talk American gladiators while we watch a little

1439
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 2: NBA Clipper Bros.

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Speaker 4: You heard it here first, have a great time. Turn up,

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01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 4: love you guys, awesome.

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01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. I remember when Kyle Lowry won

1443
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: a title. We were called the starters, but now we're

1444
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: the finishers. Not really, why were you named the starters?

1445
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: Nobody knows. It's a mystery.

1446
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 2: People in the stream team are saying f t B.

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01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 3: F t B paid the boys race the day

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01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 2: People, and then you've got to come back, come on back,

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Speaker 2: there you go.