WEBVTT - #414 - Yelawolf 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:00.560 What's up. 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:02.240 This is Yellow Wolf, Catfish Billy. 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:04.800 Make sure you check me out on the Bootleg keV 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:08.240 podcast happening right now. 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.280 Yo, Bootleg cap podcast Man special guests in here, my guy. 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:17.760 It's been a long time coming. Yep, mister Wolf himself, 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:18.439 Yellowolf is in. 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:20.720 The building, man, dud, good to see you as well. 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:22.880 Been friends for a long time. 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.400 For a very long time, man, Like shit, since like 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:28.360 I think you and I met in twenty ten. Wow, 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:31.840 I introduced you on stage at the Wiz the Wiz tourter. 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:34.280 But I was already like a huge fan and already 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.400 kind of like diving into your world and like following 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:38.960 Ritz and shit, and so it was dope to be able. 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.160 To meet you finally. Yeah, for sure. 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:43.400 O G Trunk Music. It was when like I think, 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.760 just I wish was on the right fucking which was 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:48.960 a fucking great record, a remix with Ray Kwan. 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:54.000 Oh my god, shout out Taylor Gang. Shout to Taylor Gang. Yeah, 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:56.160 it's a fucking era, man, it was. 0:00:56.200 --> 0:01:01.480 It was the you know, breaking bad basically. 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:04.120 Dude, Like seriously, like when I think about like the 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:07.360 best eras of hip hop I've been a part of 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.120 that is the era where it was like twenty like 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:17.280 nine twenty ten, the blog era, like still being excited 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.080 when people and people were just dropping free music with 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.840 like no like plan. It was just like what is 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.400 this free music? That are these z share links and 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:28.840 these media fire links, and you know, there was that 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.000 PIF and all that shit, and like you were like, 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:32.680 you're one of the goats of that era. 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:34.319 So, I mean, you've been through so. 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:35.959 Much, man, that's crazy. 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:41.800 Earlier I was talking to so Willpower, which will Power 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:47.120 produced Trump music and the legend and a shit, shitty 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:50.040 shit house in fucking the hood of gas in Alabama. 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.320 We did that record, but as far as like releasing music. 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.360 Speaking of that in particular, we fucking put a We 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:59.880 put pop the trunk out from from the apartment from 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:03.440 I was rooming his apartment to Twitter. That's how we 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:06.400 got that record going crazy. And we did it with 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:10.640 no permission. Actually we did it in spite of the 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:14.600 advice to not well because I was like, well, that's 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:18.040 got time. You were fully independent, right. I was with 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.760 Kawan Pray through even with KP and Ghetto Ghetto Vision, 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:22.240 but that was like more of a production deal. There 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.760 was no like, now this is before south By. 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:26.760 When you had everybody bidding on you and going crazy. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:27.960 This was very early on. 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.080 So yeah, this was like that. That was the That 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.480 was the pivotal record that put the Internet on fire 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.080 and you know, got all the attention going. Then we 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:39.520 started doing shows and had moved off video. 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:41.840 Oh yeah for five grand with a five D and 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:42.680 no lights. 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:44.800 It's so crazy when you go back and watch that 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:48.560 video still. I watched it recently. It's it holds up. 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.440 Some of those videos they don't hold up, you know, 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.280 but that video holds up. 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.760 Yeah, definitely. It's like a it's like shook ones. You know, 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.639 it's got that for real, for real in the streets, 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:00.680 for real with the real people do when real shit 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:04.799 you know. Yeah, man, I mean it was just a 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.440 the stars aligned for that to happen. 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:13.080 Do you remember being featured on the hook of a 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.120 Slim Thug song but not getting the featured credit. 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:18.840 Yeah, I run it didn't say feature and yellow No, 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.040 I tell you, I like how so And then there 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:23.760 was mixing up the medicine by Joel's. People were using 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.240 you for hook hooks for a little bit. I went 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.400 to uh the Ozone Awards in Texas. I had already 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:33.040 done the Ozone Awards and uh with a mixtape and 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:37.320 with DJ Ideal called Stereo. We're just getting our feet wet, 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:42.040 you know, like trying ship doing things. That was my 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.880 cup in the way, but uh, it was Jim Johnson 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.440 and Jim Johnson and I both have this like affinity 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.280 for classic rock, and. 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:51.440 So I did he. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.120 I was at at the Ozone Awards and shit got 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.880 crazy and I think it was Houston that sounds about right, 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:03.880 and uh it got weird. You know, there was shit happening, 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.560 beef happening, and ship and Jim was like, fuck this, 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.640 Let's go to this studio. I got a session booked 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:15.160 with Slim Thug, and uh, that is it. 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.240 Flock of Seagulls. 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:23.360 The original writ interpolation right, yeah, yeah, uh yeah, I. 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.719 Run the streets all night and day. So I cut 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.040 the vocals and I went back to Gadsten. I was 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:32.880 still fucking dumb, broke, still living like in the trap basically, 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.640 and I couldn't afford to make it to the video. 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:40.320 So Jim Johnson stood in and voiced over my part. 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.120 People who don't know Jim Johnson, this is the multi 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.560 platinum Lollipop by Lil Wayne. I mean, you just guys 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:50.360 got real fucking hit records, many legendary platinum producer. 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:53.919 Many, many, many hits. Yeah, from the trailer parks of Florida, 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:58.440 shout out Jim Johnson him, but yeah, he just he 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:01.479 saw a place for me in that, and uh so 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.480 we did it. But yeah, I remember walking around and 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.599 it was a smash with smash record. It was all 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.719 over the radio. Yeah, and I was just walking around 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:12.359 like that's me, that's me, that's me. No, that's literally me. 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.960 That's not They're like, nah, I'm like, dude, I run, 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:16.560 that's me. Look like I'll sing it for you. 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:20.440 Yeah, I'll seek it for you. But it spawned a 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:21.360 bunch of opportunities. 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.240 The next opportunity that came out for a short period, 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:26.440 I was the guy to go to for that, so 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:34.440 I redid uh Subterranean Blues by Bob Dylan for Joel 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:38.960 Santana mixing up the medicine and I was in the basement. 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:41.800 So it spawned out, and then it became like, oh, 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:45.039 I'm going to reach out to to this guy yellow Wolf. 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:49.240 He's got the rock hooks, some cool hooks, and and 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.000 then it spawned the relationship for Big Boy from Maltcast 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.440 hit me up and I was like, I was like, 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:58.320 big oh you were on I remember that was one 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.080 of your first big looks. Well, your DJ no DJ 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.120 started with he he was like, hey man, let me 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:04.800 get one of them rock hooks. 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.719 Because there was a few looks where I was like, oh, 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.159 people are starting to catch on now. 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:11.480 Yeah, I think I think it was the Big Boys shit. 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:15.200 And then I remember you sharing a record with it 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.280 It wasn't it wasn't it. You were on a record 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.760 with bud Bee early on. What was the record? 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:24.920 Uh around that time? Was it on your ship? Oh? 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.440 Good to Go? Good to Go, That's what I'm thinking of. Yeah, yeah, good, 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:32.440 that's your ship. That that was after uh that's after 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:36.760 all this stuff. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. And then yeah, 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:40.080 so I was like big please, I just want to 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:42.279 I need I need to wrap. I can. I actually 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.520 got verses, like I got something fun. I got verses 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:46.760 and he was playing beats. He's like what about this? 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.640 What about that? And when I heard your DJ no DJ, 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:53.719 he was like, man, now three thousand produced that. That's 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:56.920 that's a no go. I said, please, man, and he 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.440 gave me the track. He said, I'll give you a shot, 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.839 and I gave him like sixty eight bars, like just 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.760 non stop bars. So we ended up chopping those bars 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.640 and sharing versus throughout the song. That was the record here, 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:11.200 that was the one. That was the one he took me, 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:13.720 you know, took me to the BET Awards with him 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:15.240 and put me on stage for the first time in 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:15.880 front of camera. 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.560 So love you big podcast. 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:26.880 A legend, man. It's crazy around that time you because 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:31.440 when I think of nine oh wait hip hop, I'm thinking, like, 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.080 there was the year where it was you and Krit 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:35.760 were for Mixtape of the Year. I think it was 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.800 DJ Booth did their awards. I think you lost to Crit, 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:41.800 but I remember being like this is. 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:43.360 Like always lose to Crit. 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.480 But during that time, it was like so crazy because 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.480 what about that one train though that I really lose 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.360 to did not? No, you did not. 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.920 And also I'd also like to point out the piece 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:56.400 of Shit record where you Ritch and Crit was a 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.120 fucking legendary Yes. 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.000 Oh no, full of shit, full of shit, full of shit. 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:05.120 I'm full of full of shit. I should I Yeah, 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:09.240 my mama said I should have had brown eyes because 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:12.080 why I'm full of ship, full of shit on full 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:12.440 of shit. 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.560 But even then, like with the Wiz movement that was 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:19.920 going on, do you ever because you've had so many 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.960 errors of your career, but do you ever take the 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:26.679 time out to like truly reflect on like the stuff 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:27.480 you've been a part of. 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:35.320 Not really because I I'm like programmed next, next, like 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:35.880 what's next. 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.720 I think we all are that way, so at times 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:41.400 it's it's like you kind of got to just reflect 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:42.079 a little. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.160 Like fuck, I mean, it piles up, and you know, 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:49.360 it's a I had a night actually where I got 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.400 a new place in Nashville and I had my buddy 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:57.120 Sam Lee over the tattoo guy, great guy, a little bro, 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:02.920 you know, and and he's like, we're playing all this 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.800 other music. He's like, yo, man, let's let's let's bump 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.760 through your discography. You know. I was like, and I 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:14.160 never ever do that. And after about an hour, I 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.720 like sat down on the couch and I was like, 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.640 holy shit, I'm yellow Wolf, Like what the fuck? You know? 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:23.320 It was like this. 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.280 I was like, it was like a it was scary, honestly, 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:30.040 the real to realize the amount of music and what 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.600 I've done over the years, you know, it was a 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.000 bit emotional. Man, I was like, fuck, man, We've I've 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.120 really put in work, man, Like we we've really been 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.280 out here for a minute, doing a long doing a 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:43.040 lot of shit. So uh but yeah, unless someone else 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.199 brings it to my attention, I don't I don't really 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:49.160 dig back because I'm just so focused on like what's 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.560 right now, which right now for me is war Story. 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:53.800 The double album is coming out in May. 0:09:54.240 --> 0:10:01.560 Yeah, everything is very I mean, vintage blog era bars. 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:05.720 The beat is crazy, the videos fucking crazy. It's just 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.199 a rap video. You got fucking. 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.920 Legend, you got fucking Estevon in there, you got you 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:15.839 got fucking yeah, yeah, shout the Baldacci the face of 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:20.120 La fucking DJ Paul's And it's just a very like 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:22.720 i'd heard, like because I was talking to will Power 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:24.520 a bit, but I heard like you were like kind 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.760 of back honed in on scratching that itch again. 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:31.320 Why why is this? Why? Why? Now? Though? 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.679 Well, I did this rock and roll album with Shooter Jennings. 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:36.960 I was gonna bring that out, by the way, Yeah, 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:42.520 I'm a believer. Yeah yeah, bro listen people, sometimes why 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:46.120 is a fucking It's like it might be a perfect 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:49.400 rock album. We thought so, me and Jelly talk about 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.880 it all the time because we're like, this ship is 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.319 like the best version of like the old school rock 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:58.360 we like. But today, well that's what we we that's 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.480 what we set out to do. I mean, baby's fucking hard, bro, 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:05.000 thank you well. We great Schroman music too. 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.120 Oh yeah that album sometimes? 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:09.880 Why please, if you're a rock and roll even if 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:11.760 you're not a rock and roll fan, you should, you should, 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.240 you should bump down on that arena shit. It's arena shit. 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.040 I mean we you know, like Shooter and I have 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.680 been talking about doing a record for years. Didn't know 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:24.520 how we we're gonna do it, didn't know what we're 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:28.080 gonna make, honestly, but he sent me a SoundBite of 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:32.000 a guitar riff he made and it was during COVID. 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.480 So I had this little studio up under my stairs 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.200 and I recorded a vocal and sent it back to him, 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.760 and he called me immediately like, holy shit, dude, if 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:46.199 this is any indication of what we can do, we 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.800 have to make this happen. So we booked a session 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:57.120 at Sunset Sound and uh, two days before our first session, 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:02.360 George Floyd was murdered and we already had flights we 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:06.040 already had all these things set up, so we came 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.640 into l a hot you know that it was obviously 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.880 a wild time and so deuring the during the making 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:17.280 of that record, we were out marching. We were out 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.240 like we would take just a break and just go 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:23.280 walk for a few miles, you know, just supporting. And 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:28.880 but obviously the vibe was just so and intense. You know, 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.960 there's helicopters and and and you're in ls everywhere. You know, 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.120 I'm on Sunset Sunset sound man, all the Sunset Trip. 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.319 Yeah, the fucking protests were everywhere. I mean she was 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:38.520 active right outside the door. 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:42.960 Yeah, it was active, very you know, and so it did. 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:47.400 It created that part created all an intense emotional vibe, 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:53.360 and one record reflects that. Off that album in particular, 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:01.480 it's it's just a story of the neighborhood is going 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:06.400 to ship, you know, like everything is changing, and but 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.400 you know, like as far as like the record and 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.280 the vibe of of each song was, we just wanted 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:14.240 to do what we loved, like the ship that we 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.839 grew up listening to, the ship that we the rock 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:22.040 that we were inspired by, and each song just started happening. 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.800 We wrote and record of that entire album and that 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:28.720 in that week, That in a week. Yeah, it's crazy. 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:32.480 If anybody who hasn't heard this album just listen to 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.360 make me a believer and tell me it isn't meant 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.640 to be in a fucking That ship is like stadium 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:37.400 rock bro. 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:43.440 That you know, like what we we definitely we thought so. 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:45.880 I thought that that record. I thought that that album 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:51.680 was going to change my career forever. I was like, 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.120 because we thought that as well. I was like, Man, 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:59.760 this ship may really really go, and this may actually 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.040 people are going to forget that I was even a rapper. 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:05.679 That's how powerful I thought that record was. I was like, man, 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.040 they're gonna have to they'll dig back and discover pop 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.880 the trunk and they're going to scratch their head. They're 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:14.640 not going to even know. Well, as it turned out 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.880 like the you know, we and we got all these 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.640 crazy critical acclaims. You know, it played the played the 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:23.640 Grammy Museum and we were you know, considered for a 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:29.240 nomination and all those things, and it just kind of 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:32.800 I don't think that it had a moment. I don't 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:34.920 think that it for whatever reason, it didn't have the 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:36.480 moment we thought it was going to have. But we 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:40.560 did like legendary Ship. We played Rainbow Rooms fiftieth anniversary. 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.520 Which is crazy it played. We played the Viper Room. 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.640 We did some really cool ship with that opened up 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.840 for Leonard skinnerd like, yeah, we. 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:51.680 Did crazy ship with the record. But I think. 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:55.920 The the lack of what I considered I thought it 0:14:55.960 --> 0:15:00.520 was a little underappreciated and under under worked. 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.600 I think a lot of it's that it's not you guys, 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.960 it's really the you know. No, it wasn't like I mean, 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.160 because I know it was worked to radio because I 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.080 remember the machine well, I remember seeing it on the 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:11.960 radio chart at rock. So I was like, oh, at 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:14.560 least they're working it to rock, you know, Like yeah, 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.080 but it's it's the machine. 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:20.800 Okay. It takes a lot of a lot of things 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.800 to make radio work. Let's just say that. And and 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:27.400 I wasn't willing. I was like, man, if it you know, 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.320 if it's not, if it's not doing what it's supposed 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.880 to be. Really on a campaign, bro, it's really a campaign. Well, 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:35.560 I'll tell you one thing that we did that we 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.400 reignited as a as a crew is we put a 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:42.720 quarter million dollars in wheat pasting across the world and 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:48.600 billboards and we tore s it up all over Paris, Australia, Japan, 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:54.000 like Canada, New Zealand, you know, like and that was impactful, 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.240 that had that had a real impact on people. I 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.640 got it. There's a photo of Paul Rosenberg taking a 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:01.720 selfie in front of the wheat paste in Paris. 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:06.040 You know, no people, I think people underestimate that Gorilla ships. 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:07.520 Too, they do. I don't. 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.440 But you know, keep sleeping, keep sucking shit works. 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:15.640 Well, I mean you were get back to what made 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:19.520 uh okay so okay? So reuniting with willpower. It's been, 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.760 it's been, it's been not too many years. But well, 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:24.960 when I tapped back in, like literally like when I say, 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:28.000 I compartmentalized those moments and so when I when I 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.200 dove into sometimes why that was that was my life 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.200 and my existence and I put all my energy into that. 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:39.960 But the frustration of the what I thought was the 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.600 under being underappreciated when you think. 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:44.600 This is our life change, this is going to change things, 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:46.040 and it maybe goes you know. 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.760 And it don't and it don't. It it definitely got 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:55.880 like artistic credibility. Sure, but it just made me like 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.120 tap back in to hip hop. And when I did 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:05.040 tap back in, I was like, nah, man, I have 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:07.400 something to say, I have something to do. It made 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.960 me so hungry for versus because I had spent so 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:14.240 much time training myself how to sing correctly, how to 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.680 deliver those rock and roll records the best that I could, 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:22.560 and I was so hyper focused on that that when 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:28.800 I pulled that spot out of my mind where I 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:35.560 do rap versus hip, I just got so hungry for 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:40.000 hip hop again. And so I talked to Malay. I 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:44.760 called Malay and I called Willpower, and I was like, man, 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:49.760 we need to get back together and do love story again, 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:54.800 but this time, let's call it war story because we've 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:58.160 been through it. And so I came out to Los 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:03.120 Angeles State at the Sunset Market. He Malay would feed 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:06.000 me bpms. For the most part, there was no beats. 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:09.240 It's pretty crazy, that's pretty crazy. He would send me like, Okay, 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:12.960 today's BPM eighty five. Yes, today's eighty five, here's a 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.639 click track. And I would write full songs and hooks 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:19.399 and everything, go into the studio at like two pm. 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.240 Cut my verses, cut the hooks and he'd. 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.720 Produce around it. That's the that's crazy. 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:26.120 Yeah, And people. 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:27.240 Who don't know that's like the opposite of how it 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.600 usually goes right. Yeah. I mean, if you're like hip hop, recording, 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:33.960 it's usually to a beat to a beat, you're you're 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:37.400 something exactly something to some kind of melody. But recording 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:39.600 it's with absolutely nothing. Like He's like, nah, man, you 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:42.119 make up a melody in your head, make up a concept, 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.880 make up a cadence, and bring it. And so I did, 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.320 and we did that for the whole album. And when 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.639 I cut that album, I was like, oh fuck. I 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.360 still hadn't worked with Willpower. So we cut a whole 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:56.679 album with Malay. I called Will. I said, man, you 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.320 got to come to Atlanta and I mean, you got 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.320 to come to Nashville and here this fucking record that 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:05.119 me and Malay did. It's bonkers. Your your work is 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:08.119 cut out for you. Because if we're gonna do what 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:10.119 I think we're gonna do, I think we're gonna to 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:11.880 hang you gotta you gotta go crazy. 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:13.800 And he did. 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:17.359 He went absolutely crazy, and we went to Atlanta and 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.200 cut that record. And when I had both the albums, 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:22.080 I was like, man, this is not. I can't blend 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.520 these two. This is two separate albums. But then I 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:30.440 didn't have time to put two of them out like separately, 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.280 so it's like, fuck it, let's just put out a 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:36.200 double album. So it's Trump Music Forever with will Power 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:39.719 and Michael Wayne with Malay all under All under a 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:40.359 War Story. 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:44.920 I look at like I always somehow will Power is back. 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:49.239 We got liquor, liquors, Liquors touchdown. I was gonna say, 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:53.480 willis coat. I always tell will Power on is it 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:56.160 Box Chevy four? 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:58.199 On which what's which one is on? 0:19:58.480 --> 0:19:58.760 Uh? 0:19:58.880 --> 0:19:59.720 Trump Music too? 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:00.080 Oh. 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.359 I got a surprise for the block Chevy fans, but 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:08.160 you is there. I got a big surprise for. 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:10.359 Bock Chevy fans on the War Story. 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:15.040 Bock Chevy eight is on War Story and crazy Man, 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:19.639 I'll tell you this. I have three of my close 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:27.080 friends and og Slamerican Killer my squad that were at 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:32.960 the Grammys American sen exactly. Yeah, he knows his ship. Well, okay, 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:36.400 fuck it, Killer, Mike, DJ Paul and Jelly Roll are 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:39.879 on this record, not on Box Chevy eight separately and 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.880 on different songs. So I'm not gonna tell you which 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:45.359 song they're on, but they're all three on there and 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:49.640 they were all at the Grammys. Dude, that was such 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:52.280 a moment man like like as a, as A, as 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:54.720 a friend and A and A and A and an 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:58.520 artist friend, like watching that, like my boys up there 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:01.440 getting it amazing, and look, we already had. 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:02.400 These records in the bag. 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:05.119 I was like, oh shit, it's funny. 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:07.920 I saw your story when you were watching I because 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:09.919 I was watching. I never watched the Grammys, but I 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:12.399 was watching them like you because I just I just 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:14.359 wanted to see if Jelly got new artists. 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:16.639 Right right right of course. So it was literally but 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:20.280 come on, Mike, Mike. But but it sucked that wasn't 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:22.760 on TV because by the time the show started on TV, 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:24.639 we already knew he won three and then I think 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:26.480 he was in He was a handcuffs by then. That 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:29.199 was incredible. I have been more pro I'm to sweep 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:29.920 three of them. 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:36.400 And then I just love the post like campaign he's 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:38.520 on right now going to the breakfast club talking his 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:40.520 ship like he made the best rap album of the year. 0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:42.480 It's not even close. Him and I talked about it. 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:44.040 I was like, you're gonna get a Grammy for this 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:50.399 that's you know what and deservingly, deservingly come on, you 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:54.440 know and and it just goes back so far. Mike 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:57.360 was one of my very, very first cosns. I'm talking 0:21:57.400 --> 0:22:00.680 about going back to kicking like way before, like when 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:03.560 I first got my first situation, a brief situation with 0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:07.040 Columbia Records, Mike pulled up. Mike pulled up with when 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:09.080 I was working with Will Power and we did Sla 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:11.840 American Shit. Is the first time that I even mentioned Slamerican? 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:13.600 Was that record? Alum on YouTube? 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:15.119 I'm sure it is. 0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:17.359 Everything's on fer I just had it on my phone forever. 0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:20.560 Everything's on YouTube. I find shit of mine on YouTube. 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:22.520 I'm like, I'm I don't even how it's still there, 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.440 but yeah, everything ends up there. Yeah. 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:27.280 So for people who don't know it's American Shittisen was 0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:29.000 a record that you and Killer Mike did, I don't know, 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:31.359 twelve years ago, fifteen years ago, I don't even know 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:31.800 how long ago. 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:35.400 Was in a fucking barn studio in Atlanta, Georgia. It's 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:37.560 not even there no more. They tore that motherfucker down. 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:38.880 It's like Atlantic Station now. 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:42.919 No, but it's it's definitely it's it's been cool to 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:46.760 see him and Jelly's Grammy night. 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:48.840 Was so awesome and Paul DJ Paul. 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.439 Yeah and Paul and Paul went in a Grammy. He 0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:53.040 might fuck around with an E guy if he wants 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:53.560 to go do something. 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:55.760 I think we're going to. Man, we talked about to 0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:59.240 score a play. Now that's what I'm saying. Please, he 0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:01.200 could get an E guy for real. I want to 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:04.480 I want to see I want to see Memphis through 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:07.760 his eyes in a play and and and a series 0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:11.760 for the Emmy. He deserves that, dude, Paul's the best. 0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:12.960 So what are we drinking? Dad? 0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:14.879 Slow Mafia, by the. 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:18.760 Way, that ep you guys did? That? Was that a 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:19.280 four banger? 0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:21.639 You guys did like what seven eight years ago with 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:24.320 all the fucking classic samples? 0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:28.960 Fuck? Oh, Paul, he done another one that we've done 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:33.280 two so far we did, Yeah, we did. What did 0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:36.960 we call that? That ship was tough? Yeah? That was 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:39.720 there was only four records I think. Yeah, it was 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:43.879 like a quick one, like a quick banger that we 0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:47.960 did another one titled slaw Mafia like that like. 0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:50.120 Two I think three three. 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:54.119 Years ago, like I did a August I called it 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:57.159 the august Onslaught where I dropped like four albums in 0:23:57.200 --> 0:24:00.679 a month that it was you drop that. 0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:04.199 You dropped the album with riff Raft, you dropped, you 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:04.920 dropped two others. 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:10.360 Yeah, I dropped uh uh, DJ DJ Mugs, Miles zero 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:13.399 Ye shout to Mugs with fucking Del the Funky Homo 0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:16.040 Sapient and DJ Paul on one record. 0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.480 Another great ol Fi hip hop record. Another great album 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:20.320 you did. But it was after the Sometimes Why Ship? 0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:24.040 If I'm right that I feel like you scratched your 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:26.840 rapping itche On was you and Caski's album. 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:30.040 Is fucking crazy? That came after. I think it came 0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:33.000 after Yellow Black Sheep came after I think I might. 0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:33.320 I think. 0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:36.000 No, No it didn't because I was with Caski at 0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:36.920 the at the Rainbow Room. 0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:37.680 Yeah no I didn't. 0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:39.959 It was before it was, but I was with Caski 0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:41.640 at you know what you guys are talking about doing 0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:42.040 part two? 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:44.200 You know a matter of fact, we were kind. 0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:46.280 Of deep into it, and and I knew that that 0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:48.320 record had to come out, and I was telling Caski. 0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:51.040 I was like, bro, and I was like, I got 0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.479 this rock and roll project. Though, Man, I'm telling you 0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:56.600 we better get this out. Yeah, we better go. But 0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:59.119 been a problem man is one of my favorite. Shout 0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:02.200 to Tasty Man, so yeah, yeah, yeah'd be his crazy 0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:04.400 that have one of the hardest videos too. Shout out 0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:06.720 to Kaski too, who's getting married in a couple of days. 0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:09.240 And I can't fucking make it too, is what. I'm sorry. 0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:11.680 I'm sorry, dog, I'm sorry I cannot make it to you. 0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:12.520 He's one of the. 0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:16.440 Best, very underrated somehow, but just murdering it, building this 0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:17.560 fan base still. 0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:22.400 I that's a that's a that's that whole underrated thing 0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:25.679 is like such a mystery. I like, I don't know 0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:32.119 how well okay, so and in the same sense, like 0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:38.320 even myself. You know, I met an artist named Cordel 0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:42.920 with DJ Paul the other day. This guy get did 0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:47.679 two billion streams just last year, and I had no clue. 0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.120 I had never heard of him, never met him. 0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:52.960 What kind of music does he do? It's like festival 0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:57.160 like dark know, it's they call it funk, they call 0:25:57.240 --> 0:26:03.080 it funky. Yeah, like they call that rat. But he 0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:06.479 took over that ship and you know, and we hit 0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:09.080 it up. We're homies. But I'm just like, you can 0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:12.960 you can like have these like like your parameters don't 0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:14.440 make like it doesn't line up with it, and you 0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:17.880 can have a whole solar system and no one knows, 0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:20.160 like people like you wouldn't believe. 0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:24.280 Like a dude walks up to me like two days ago, like, oh. 0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:27.440 Shit, yellow Wolf, what what dude? What I'm what? You 0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:29.720 still making music? Like? 0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:31.680 Man, I heard from you since Pop the Chunk. 0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:34.280 I was like dog, you you you checked out. I 0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:37.240 didn't check out. You tapped into some other ship. I've 0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:39.080 been tapped in on my ship, you know, Like I 0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:42.520 was like Dog. Since then, I've done like fifteen albums. 0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:44.119 I don't know where you've been. But then I have 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:47.639 a gold album and multi platinum bro actually today like 0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:53.000 multi platinum records and you know, a fucking a whiskey 0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:57.919 company of fucking clothing and apparel brand, a fucking just 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.360 all kinds of shit's going on, and you know, but 0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:04.600 it's just like you know, no, you can just exist, man. Well, 0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:07.920 I always because I went to Utah and interviewed the 0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:12.200 NBA Young Boy and I did a show with him 0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:15.280 in New Zealand. Oh that's great, it's random him and CEO. 0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:19.360 It was me and him and Cuevo Fire. Yeah, they 0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.520 were dope, Like, both of them are great, but the 0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:26.359 actual festival and the whole way random they did not have. 0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:29.439 I flew out there with Tea pain. I was getting 0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:35.240 more random paint. Well that's the homie first of all. 0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:39.399 Oh he's the best, he's great. Uh got knights with 0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:43.840 that guy? Yeah, me too? Uh uh? I love his wife. 0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:47.080 Two shots. His wife's wife's great. Of course she's She's 0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:50.280 from Gadsden, Alabama, my hometown. 0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:52.800 I feel like her and I discussed that, but for real, 0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:54.720 I think so because I think she had some sort 0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:56.600 of road tide shit going on and I was like, oh, 0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.080 you're from Alabama and she said, you're one of my 0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:00.359 only Alabama references. 0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:02.520 Obviously it's blown up a lot more. There's a lot more. 0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:06.120 Popping artists from Alabama now, you know. But like I'm 0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:07.840 always like, yo, where is that? How close is that 0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:09.680 to Gadson? And they're like, how do you know about Gatsa? 0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:11.159 Like Yellowolf from Gadson. 0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:14.560 Beyonce is from Guys and I heard I know her. 0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.840 Most of her family is still there, the Knowles family. 0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:22.720 Are you all hip to? Like the young I know 0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:25.479 streets of that Alabama got roots and gas. And let 0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:27.600 me be clear. I know I know she wraps Texas, 0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:28.600 but do you pay attention? 0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:30.919 Like there's a kid named No Cap who's going crazy, 0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:34.679 but he's like sign a little baby, super young street rapper, 0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:37.680 but he's fucking litt He's from Alabama like some blues dope. 0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.840 He's from US. He's from alabam. Alabama's having a wave man. 0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:42.360 Alabama RECTI Peace dough b. 0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:47.120 Yeah. Absolutely. Wasn't there a group called Dirty? Oh yeah, Dirty? Yeah? 0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:50.640 Of course a group called Dirty were they wasn't it 0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:54.719 Pop the Trunk? And there were were? There? Were they 0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.640 on rap a lot? I don't know they might have been. 0:28:57.720 --> 0:28:58.760 I don't you know what. 0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.880 I don't really nerd out like that, you know, like 0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:04.160 I said, I'm just I'm so hyper focused on the 0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:07.080 ship that I do the next yeah. 0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:08.040 Or just what I'm doing at the time. 0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.720 You know, I don't have the bandwidth to study everything 0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:13.600 that's happening. There's so fucking much and there's always something 0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:17.360 new to discover and a lot of fucking talent. Man. Honestly, 0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:20.880 the young the younger generation is killing it. In my opinion. 0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:22.840 I love what's coming up. You know, there's a lot 0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.360 of trash, of course, but there's a lot of inspiration 0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:28.760 as well. For you. 0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:31.920 We talked about Jelly a little bit, but just to 0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:34.720 see I really gotta want to you know. You you've 0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:37.040 been a guy who's been championing Jelly roll for it 0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:40.440 for years and years and years from the grit and uh, 0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:43.440 you know, he's always. 0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:44.880 With He's one of the first crew members with this 0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:47.040 SLA American tattoo, you know what I mean, Like that 0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:50.280 that I took Jelly on tour with me and you know, 0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:53.320 like put him in the studio and produce one of 0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.320 his first singer songwriter songs, you know what I mean, 0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:58.480 Like during when I was making a Ghetto Cowboy and 0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:02.080 a Trial by Fire, when when Struggle just got out 0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:06.880 of prison, had you know, Struggles still out of halfway house, 0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:09.640 when I was pulling pulling them into the studio and 0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:13.680 working and then uh waiting and Willie, which I think 0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:15.720 they've done four of them now, but the first one 0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:20.360 first was with us, you know. Yeah, And but you know, 0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:23.760 to see to see it, he's just so incredibly smart man, 0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:29.040 like blows my mind. I call him the Governor, Like, dude, 0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:30.240 you're the governor he'll walk in. 0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:32.120 He remembers everyone's. 0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:35.960 Name, always eye contact, always everyone's name. How's your mom? 0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:40.160 He remember mom's name, kids names, birthdays. He's like a 0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:43.640 savant with that ship. And he's so pleasant to be around. 0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:47.120 And I'm just happy that people are getting to experience that, 0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.960 you know what I mean, Like he's always been that, 0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.840 and he's always been the name hustling too though, Like sure, 0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:55.040 but don't get it fucked up. He's tough, tough as nails, 0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:55.640 you know what I mean. 0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:57.560 And so but. 0:30:57.560 --> 0:30:59.200 He hasn't changed, like people are like, yo, this guy 0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:01.600 Jelly's so great, Like his interviewsers like that's how he's 0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:02.200 always finished. 0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:03.520 Well, I'm not going to say. I'm not going to 0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.800 say he hasn't changed, but he has evolved into a 0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:10.040 better version of himself, you know, Like the game is 0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:15.480 fucking hard, man, and when you're when you're down, you 0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:19.000 tend to be you gotta chip on your shoulder, you 0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.480 know what I mean. And when things start to evolve, 0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.640 it lightens up that weight that that you have been 0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:27.560 carrying for so long, and it allows you to be 0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:31.080 cool or you know what I mean. And so that 0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:33.480 for him, I'm happy. I'm happy for him that he 0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:36.920 is going to relieve Congress. He's relieved of the burden 0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:41.640 of getting known. Now it's a rap. Now he gets 0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:45.200 to like sit back, make more music, you know. 0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:48.160 I mean when I tell people like he's been an 0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:51.440 underground rapper for years, like this guy was opening for 0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:53.760 Insane Clown Posse like nine years ago. 0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.360 Like people don't get it, like ship me too, fucking 0:31:56.720 --> 0:32:00.840 woo woo. They're coming here tonight, the coming here. I'm 0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:02.080 interviewing them at ten pm. Two. 0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:02.560 Let's go. 0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:04.800 It's gonna be good. Dude. 0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:05.360 It last time. 0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:07.960 I look, I did that festival. Yeah, I guess that 0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:12.280 the last the last time. What was I like, Well, 0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:16.120 the first time, the first show I went to, they 0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:18.640 started throwing fireworks on stage and I heard that, like 0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:22.000 you know, they were like rowdy. I've heard that. I've 0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:23.440 seen it, yeah, and I was like, fuck it, I'm 0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:26.840 about that life. And I was with Shady at the time. 0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:29.400 So when I walked on stage, I said, Shady records 0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:34.400 in this motherfucker and I knew but like purposeful that show, yeah, exactly, 0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:36.960 because I knew the beef You're like throw shit at me. 0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:37.840 I'm here. 0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:38.640 I knew the beef. 0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:45.280 They're like boo, start throwing fireworks on stage and. 0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:49.000 I said, I said, I said, whoo whoop, let's go. 0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:52.040 And they loved it. It was like it was like 0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.400 instant family, you know what I mean. I didn't say 0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:58.080 that to say fuck y'all. I said that to say 0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:02.320 I'm not scared, you know what I mean? Respect me here. 0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:05.360 I made a fucking party. So they started throwing the 0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:09.560 fucking fireworks on stage, and then somebody threw like a 0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:13.400 pile of those fucking black cat firecrackers and it just 0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:18.120 so happened right during the line, stood on top of them, 0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.080 jump on like a pack is standing to get back 0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:21.520 in the back and live with the pack of man ex. 0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:23.239 I just went off on this fucking tangent and they 0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:28.280 were going like fireworks and the fucking like and they 0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:31.640 were like family family. 0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:33.120 It was a rap after that. 0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:35.240 So I fell in love with their squad and the 0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:38.440 fans that they're the best man's the best people out there. Honestly, 0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:42.160 I heard that the festival's wild placement. No okay, so 0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.520 it got rowdier now they knew I was about it. 0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:50.360 So the second time I went, they threw mortars. Mortars. Yeah, 0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:52.920 that can hurt No, no, no, no, it definitely could. 0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:55.240 And then somebody fucking hit me in the face with 0:33:55.320 --> 0:34:00.400 a bottle rocket. Luckily I had shades on, but I 0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:02.720 was like, fuck it, let's go. I never stopped, and 0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:06.680 then this last time I went last, I'd have been 0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:10.400 done after that. Oh listen, gonna shoot me next time? No? 0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:14.279 No, no, no, okay they did, they did. 0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:19.480 Okay, So so I walked out on stage, and I 0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:24.840 guess at this point they're like, how rowdy can we 0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:28.239 get during a Wolf set? You know, I'm not saying 0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:30.120 they wanted to hurt me. It wasn't like that. That's 0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:32.680 just their way of showing love, and like that's just 0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:35.520 what they do. I guess it's like old school, like oh, 0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:39.160 like like Western. They used to you know, they like 0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:41.880 chicken wire around the stage and they would throw bottles 0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:43.279 and beers when they loved the band. 0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:45.759 They were just like that's just how they represent So 0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:47.520 walking on stage. 0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:52.040 Chicken wings, fucking hot dogs, and all of a sudden, 0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:54.440 I feel like I'm getting stung by bees, like all 0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:59.480 over my body, but I'm not moving. And then it 0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.160 started to fucking like I need to move left and 0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:05.960 right because something's they've they've sent I don't know what 0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:06.880 the fuck was happening. 0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:11.280 It was dark, but it was so come to find. 0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:14.520 There was like three people out there with those automatic 0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:19.880 fucking uh pellet guns that shoot plastic, and they were 0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:25.560 like lighting me up, just the whole my whole set, 0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:31.840 just fucking just fucking me up. But I survived. So 0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:36.600 there's that. They got that, Like the drug Bridge family, 0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:41.840 they're like, fuck you yo. So before the show, I 0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:46.040 was I was talking to what's homie's name, Shaggy you 0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:47.200 violent Jol. 0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:49.000 I was talking to viol j. 0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:52.120 I was like, I was like, hey man, you know 0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:54.960 last time they threw mortars on stage. You know, I'm 0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:56.600 not sure what's going to happen tonight, but you know, 0:35:56.680 --> 0:36:00.200 if it gets too crazy, you think you could come 0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:02.040 out there and like make sure they don't like kill 0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:02.600 me or something. 0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:08.279 He was like, bro, honestly, it'll probably get worse if 0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:11.000 I step out there and say something like you can't 0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:12.640 tell them to calm down. I was like, you're right, 0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:15.080 you're right, you're right, all right, fuck it, here we go. 0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:20.000 And so that was that. I was all fucking fucked up. 0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.480 Looked like I got hit with ants all over my body. 0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:23.520 Oh my god. 0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:29.040 Yeah, that's shout out to uh to the Juggalos. They're 0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:32.360 an interesting uh group of humans there. 0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.160 Some artists got fucked up up out there, though, man like. 0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:39.080 Tila Tequila got fucked up for Tela Tequila was like 0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:41.880 on stage and they just just bombed her with just 0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:45.840 and I think somebody from I think od B and 0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:50.360 I gonna talk too more about the detes ICP Man's 0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:51.440 good guys. 0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:53.000 Good guys, I mean. 0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.000 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, they're good guys. 0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:57.200 You know what I mean. They fucking they pay attention, 0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:00.480 you know, and they showed love and support. I mean, 0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:05.600 they've built an amazing following. Those dudes are brilliant, to 0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:07.399 be honest, like brilliant business guys. 0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:15.480 You have had a crazy since you got off of Shady. 0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:18.000 I feel like, well, a good thing that happened was 0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:20.799 Trunk Music too almost immediately went up on DSPs, which 0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:22.880 was fucking amazing because that's actually my favorite one, that's 0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:23.919 my favorite project of yours. 0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:31.239 But Trump music too, Yes, what's the fucking second truck music? No, 0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:36.920 I know what I'm just trying to figure out. Yeah, oh, Tennessee, 0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:39.800 first that was on that for the first time, I 0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:40.600 forget which. 0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:42.480 One is one, which one's whatever. 0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:46.000 I DJ the fucking release party in South Boy. You 0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:48.960 were fucking blackout well, of course, and I had a 0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:51.960 beard and a gold grill. Yes you did, Yes you did. 0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:54.880 Uh Boo was tripping out rest in peace. She's like, 0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:57.520 you got a grill and a beard. I'm surprised everybody 0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:00.239 I saw who would I see who? 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:05.440 Uh uh djuh Drama. 0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:08.839 Saw Drama on the plane on the way to south 0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:11.200 By Southwest and I was sitting next to him in 0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:15.920 first class. He was like, he's like, yo, yellow Wolf. 0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:18.080 I was like, I was like, yeah, dog had a 0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:20.320 fucking big period and a gold grill. He's like, I 0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:22.799 was like, what, It's just a beard. He goes, nah, man, 0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:26.440 it's a lot. That's a lot. 0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:27.759 Nah Man, that's a lot. 0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:31.200 Don't just call the beard. But I showed up at 0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:33.120 south By Southwest that hey man, thank you by the 0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:34.800 way for fucking supporting that record. 0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:37.080 And No, it's been crazy though, just to see like 0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:40.680 your output has been so awesome in terms of just 0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.600 from a fan's perspective, because I feel like when you 0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:47.640 were on Innerscope and Shady, we knew like if you 0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:48.719 dropped music. 0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:50.880 You'd be in a few years, you know, we get 0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:51.359 something new. 0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:53.560 But now it's like like you said, you had a 0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:55.680 month thre you dropped an album every week. You might say, 0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:57.840 fuck it, I want to go. Do you know an 0:38:57.880 --> 0:38:59.400 album with CASKI or a rock album. 0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:01.480 I do it the fu I want to do when 0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:03.279 I want to do it. The other problem at that 0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:05.560 with you know, just to add a conversation, like the 0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:09.160 reason why artists get caught up at labels is because, yeah, 0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:11.960 I got an album, it's prime, it's mixed, mastered, everything's 0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:13.640 ready to go, got the whole world out planning going. 0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:18.560 But hey, guess what, Kendrick Lamar's dropping on Fridays, so 0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:21.120 we gotta wait. You cannot you know what I mean 0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:23.680 type of deal where it's like now it's like fucking 0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:26.520 drop that ship whenever, you know. And I love that, 0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.520 and I know the fans appreciate it because, like you know, 0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:33.359 and also this freestyles. Freestyles are fucking fun as fuck. 0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:36.319 You know, just fucking record record them day of put 0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:39.120 them out that night. You know, like it's that shit 0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:43.600 is so much fun, and it just keeps the mojo flowing. Man, 0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:47.440 And I'm excited about worst story Oh my god, this 0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:52.000 double album. I'm excited. Oh my god. Dude, I've always 0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:53.800 told you, by the way, and whenever you want to 0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:55.640 do this during this podcast, if you would like to, 0:39:56.760 --> 0:40:00.480 You've always asked me, let me break something, let me 0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:01.960 break a record, let me break a song. 0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:08.279 So I've decided I'll let I'll let you. 0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:14.120 I will. I will grant you that. Now I'll let 0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:15.960 you take a pick. Actually, because we've been homies for 0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:19.239 so long. Yeah, okay, I got five singles that are 0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:21.800 gonna roll out all the way up until the album 0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:26.320 coming out May May. Okay, so we got five singles 0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:28.439 and five videos. We just put out everything with a video. 0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:32.680 Fucking sick video, sick record. Thank you. The next that's 0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:35.600 off of Trump Music Forever. The next single that's coming 0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:37.239 out is off of the Michael Wayne album, so we're 0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:39.160 kind of skipping back. That's the one I just listened to. 0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:42.719 Yeah, yeah, listen to that is a Michael Wayne album. 0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:44.719 No, I listened to the record though. The next record 0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:49.080 that got the next record, get the fuck out of here? Yeah, 0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:51.600 what is it? I just fucking heard it. It's vibe 0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:56.279 as fuck. Who since you make you love Me? Yeah, 0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:58.759 that's it. Right, Yeah, who the fuck? Since you make 0:40:58.840 --> 0:40:59.880 you love me? Fucking rich? 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:00.400 You have it? 0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:00.600 Bro? 0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:01.399 Nah? 0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:03.719 Who oh my publishers. 0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:06.239 Yeah, dude, he's fucking leaking your shit. This guy, he's 0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:09.560 leaking your ship. He sent you that record. I'm looking 0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:09.799 at it her. 0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:11.520 Hey, bro, we need to talk. 0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:14.799 I got the clean edit, too clean edit. I don't 0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:17.360 know you play clean edits have to Yeah, I'm on 0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:20.400 the like you know, I'm all over the all right, Bro? 0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:23.960 I like that record. I'll play you whatever you want. 0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:26.600 We did do a freestyle. Remember we did that Wu 0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:29.000 Tang freestyle we recorded at money Mar's house. I'll play you, 0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:31.640 I'll play you, make you love me, I'll play you. Uh, 0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:34.839 I'll play you anything you want off the records. Matter 0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:39.719 of fact, I had thought, fuck it, I'll send the 0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:42.040 whole goddamn album. I like to listen to it for sure. 0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:44.160 You can trust me. I'm not gonna leak it. 0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:47.040 No, what I'm saying is leak it. 0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:48.680 Oh you want me to leak it? Oh? I see 0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:52.160 what we're doing. Okay, Yeah, yeah, I'm down. But let's 0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:55.479 just start with the single and the singles done both. 0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:56.720 Like I'm telling you whatever. 0:41:56.840 --> 0:42:00.359 When I heard this everything record I'm telling you because 0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:02.719 I saw you teasing it, but when I saw when 0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:04.480 it finally because it dropped like two weeks ago. 0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:06.320 Now it was the last Friday. I feel like it 0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:10.440 just came out. Yeah, it's like on the sixteenth. That 0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:14.359 dropped on the sixteenth. Thank you, amazing, amazing record man. 0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:17.200 Shout out to Willpower. I'm excited to hear both sides. 0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:19.000 So this is like a double disc if there were 0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:19.880 discs still. 0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:26.520 Disc well, I mean it's it's gonna be vinyl, So 0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:28.320 you're gonna be able to do the vinyl like you 0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:30.279 might even have four Vieah, you know, it's dope. This 0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:33.879 is dope. I'm going to the actual vinyl press. I'm 0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:38.400 going to pour my own wax Wow into into an 0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.960 exclusive amount of We're obviously we're doing a lot of vinyl, 0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:46.239 but there will be a certain number that I pour myself, 0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:49.600 and they'll be numbered. Yeah, they'll be signed the number 0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:51.560 that I've and we're gonna film it and all that shit, 0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:54.279 And that's just for the fans and also something fucking 0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:56.320 really cool. I've never been I've never done that before, 0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:58.759 So I'm gonna I'm gonna pour and press my own 0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:00.759 vinyl and I'm gonna make up. So I'm gonna do 0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:02.839 some shit like mix mix up some colors and ship 0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.800 make them like really super unique. Y. Yeah, put some 0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:07.520 skips in there, a little skippies. 0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:09.680 You know, it's crazy, Like it's got to feel good 0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.080 all these years, for all these years later though, like 0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:15.000 you know, we use that word underground and we're talking 0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:18.080 or underrated. Rather we're talking about certain people. There could 0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:20.680 be a whole solar system happened and people don't realize it, right, 0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:25.239 But you have had this fan base that has just 0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:29.960 like always supported like like like throughout whatever you're going through. 0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:32.520 You have that core, that slum American fan base that 0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:36.600 is just I mean, most artists would die to have 0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:40.280 that level of dedication from a group of people. 0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:42.879 That most artists would die to have it, But most 0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:45.200 artists wouldn't put their life in jeopardy like I have 0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:47.640 to eat it to earn it. Yeah, Like it's not 0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:51.400 it's not. It's not an easy route, you know what 0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:58.160 I mean, To build your own thing, it just takes 0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:00.279 a lot of time and it takes a lot of 0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:02.640 courage too, you know what I mean. And to dive 0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:07.120 off away from the system and to curate in your 0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:13.960 own way, your own thing. And so I'm extremely fortunate 0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:18.040 to have fell into what, you know, what SLA American is, 0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:22.279 and to create the word and the culture and the 0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:25.640 idea behind it, and for people to understand it. You know, 0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:27.520 at one point we had more people around the world 0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:31.480 with SLA American tattoos before we even printed a shirt 0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.800 that says American. It was that serious. People really understood 0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:39.799 it all over the globe. And so now yeah, it's 0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:44.200 we've it's become the umbrella of a lot of amazing things, 0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:47.799 you know, and you know, multiple genres. I got people 0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:51.960 coming in like younger, younger artists coming into to Nashville 0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:56.040 and recording records on new talent. Got a lot of 0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.480 stuff coming in twenty twenty four. Mant not just my 0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:02.840 double album, but a new new artist, crazy artists like 0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:05.600 you know, I don't co sign a bullshit like crazy artists, 0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:10.400 Country music, hip hop, rock and roll, all of it, 0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:12.640 all all the things that fall up under SLA American. 0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:18.000 I've I'm not going to say found, but I would 0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:20.960 say they have found me, and they have found a 0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:24.000 space where they feel comfortable making music and and and 0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:26.759 the right crew to put it out with because I 0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:28.920 get it, you know, I really truly do get it. 0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:35.600 And yeah it's dope fucking clothing and apparel brand popping. 0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:39.160 I just brought in Manny to do a cutting soul 0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:42.640 Slamaria is gonna have a fashion house, dog fashion house 0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:45.040 and that like the like limited drug well you were 0:45:45.080 --> 0:45:48.880 doing it's like the Bible belt or like this is 0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:51.000 something that this is like, look, we've I've been crawling. 0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:53.439 I still got my ball Mark jacket. Let's go bal Mart. 0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:59.239 Shout out, shout out Stuart Walton, Walton family, some of 0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:03.439 that o G some of that og famous Slamerican. 0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:04.440 Shit, Country Fresh. 0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:07.440 Travis Barker, I still got the white tea and it's 0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:09.759 got you on it with the skeleton face. 0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:11.440 Man. Can I say how much I love I just 0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:13.600 want to say officially how much I love Travis Barker 0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:17.040 and what he did for me, you know, being in 0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:21.719 California and Los Angeles in particular that you know, that 0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:25.560 dude changed my life, you know, like as a big brother, 0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:31.640 especially during my time with Shady. He was he was 0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:33.839 he had my sex man, you know what I mean, 0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:37.120 like really really carried me around and showed me so 0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:40.520 much not just about music and networking, but. 0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:45.600 Business and owning your own thing. 0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:48.440 So much of Slamerican, of how I built Some American 0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:51.479 was inspired by watching how. 0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:52.040 Travis did it. 0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:53.920 And you watched it from up close. Man, I was 0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:57.160 right there. I saw it, you know, as you know 0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:00.800 when when mixed Maaster Mike Travis to myself and the 0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:05.279 cool kids went out and opened for Nicki Minaj and 0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:09.600 I think Rick Ross, Nicki Minaj, Rick Ross and Low 0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:13.440 Wayne and we were the openers for the show. And 0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:15.040 like we pull up to a city and the whole 0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:18.360 city would be dumped. Every city would already be dumped 0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:21.320 with famous famous everywhere stickers, wheat paste all over the 0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:21.959 fucking city. 0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:26.560 He had like sent his crew out to dump the 0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:28.480 city and then when. 0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:30.320 We showed up, it was already present, and you're like, 0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:32.600 oh shit, it's just brilliant, you know what I mean. 0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:36.080 And so yeah, he's just the famous era was like 0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:36.680 a real era. 0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:37.000 Man. 0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:37.600 Yeah. 0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:39.880 Now he started at dt l A, which is crazy. 0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:43.000 Oh that's his ship, Yeah exactly, I know that. Yeah, 0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:44.759 I think he probably likes that no one knows that 0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:47.839 he's behind it. Well now they do, now they do. Uh? 0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:50.919 You and I haven't talked. Well, we've talked, we've seen 0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:52.840 each other. I hope I got my facts right on that. 0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:55.399 I don't know me too. I guess we'll find out. 0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:02.279 But I went to the Trunk Music three release party. 0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:05.720 It was at a random shithole bar in Sherman Oaks. 0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:11.960 MGK pulled up. It was a moment, Oh yeah, I remember, 0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:14.279 that's that's a night I met Gangster bur on your bus. 0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:19.560 I can't I don't know. I don't know what I 0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:23.560 was thinking, honestly with that party. It was super small, dude. Roll. 0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:25.719 I was like, if I'm gonna go to Oyster House, 0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:27.359 if I'm going to La, I'm gonna do it at 0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:29.000 a dive bar. At the time you're well, at the 0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:32.040 time you're pushing your creek water. Yeah, I'm gonna go 0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:32.279 do it. 0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:33.759 I'm gonna do a dive bar. 0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:36.080 Fucking l a thing. 0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:40.480 You don't do that ship in Los Angeles. Man, It's 0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:41.200 like it was wild. 0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:45.239 They didn't. It's not. It's that's some Nashville shit, you 0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:47.439 know what I'm saying. Like Consight's twenty twenty, I would 0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:49.480 have taken it down at least to the Rainbow or 0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:51.600 the Viper Room. Or somewhere somewhere else sunset, you know 0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:53.400 what I mean. So well, I was gonna say, like 0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:56.839 it was, it was such a big deal. GKA pulled 0:48:56.920 --> 0:48:59.920 up like I was twenty nineteen, right, I was twenty nine. 0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:01.520 Team that I'm dropped. 0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:04.880 But up until that point, like for your fans and 0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:06.880 his fans, like you guys shared so many fans, you 0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:10.120 guys had this weird like few that wasn't really about much, 0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:12.680 you know, Oh it was a gay the MGK thing. Well, 0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:14.120 I was gonna say, can you walk us through how 0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:17.440 you guys ever communicating and forward and all that for 0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:18.200 the fans who don't know. 0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:23.200 Yeah, well MGK was just coming up super young. You 0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:24.279 called him out on my show. 0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:26.440 Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, he was coming up. He's 0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:26.920 super young. 0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:27.880 Yeah do you remember that? 0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:29.920 Yeah, yeah, I remember that. 0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:32.919 But he was super young. And I was on Warped 0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:35.360 tour at the time, and I was like, you know, 0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:39.600 part of my stage performance has always been you know, 0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:43.879 throwing water, crowdsurfing, mosh pitting, and he made some kind 0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:45.800 of comment I believe at the time it's like nobody 0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:48.320 needs to be crowdsurfing, moshpitting, throwing or whatever. 0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:49.479 Then this is my shit. 0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:52.200 You know. He trying to claim that. Well, yeah, he 0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:54.879 was young, like you said, Yeah, yeah, he was young. 0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:58.520 And he might not have even been talking about me 0:49:58.600 --> 0:49:59.200 in particular. 0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:01.120 I mean, he may be. It may be somebody else. 0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:04.040 I say in particular a lot these days. It's a 0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:06.440 good thing to say in particular. Yeah, I like it. 0:50:06.480 --> 0:50:07.800 I'm gonna shake it. I'm not saying it for the 0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:09.640 rest of the interview. I'm over it, all right. Well 0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:14.600 so so he so he uh so he made a 0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:16.000 comment and I made my thing. 0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:17.120 I was like, yo, you know what. 0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:18.120 I don't know what I said. 0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:21.239 But he said, say my name, dog, He said, say 0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:23.960 my name. It was like before Walter White said save 0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:26.600 my name. You were in my interview, You're like, say 0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:31.799 my name on a record. It was aggressive. I mean yeah, 0:50:31.880 --> 0:50:33.600 I mean I was coming in hot man, you know, 0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:36.560 I was fucking but you guys had this out it, 0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:38.680 you know, I know this thing. And then yeah, So 0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:41.239 I saw him at a trade show like about three 0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:43.439 or four months later. I think it was SR trade 0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:45.759 show actually, as a matter of fact, and uh and 0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:49.359 in LA and I walked up to him. 0:50:50.000 --> 0:50:52.120 I was like, damn, this fool is tall. Tall for 0:50:52.320 --> 0:50:54.319 for sure, and I was like, he was like, yo, 0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:56.000 can we That's the first thing I noticed. 0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:58.440 I like, damn, I'm goin to box this tall asthma, 0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:01.880 Like this is not gonna be go well or is 0:51:01.920 --> 0:51:03.719 it either gonna go really good for me or really 0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:06.880 bad for me? But okay, and so we're gonna I 0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:09.120 just walked up and I was like, I was like, yeoh, 0:51:09.160 --> 0:51:10.680 what up. He was like, hey, man, can we talk? 0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:11.640 I was like yeah. 0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:17.040 And then he was you know, he apologized. I apologize. 0:51:17.080 --> 0:51:17.440 That was it. 0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:19.200 There was nothing else to say, and. 0:51:20.600 --> 0:51:23.319 Time went by. We never did a at that time. 0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:25.239 I was like, man, you know, like honestly, let's just 0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:27.319 do a record, you know, and just squashed this whole 0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:30.040 ship because like my fans were acting stupid for sure, 0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:33.840 real stupid, like putting Slamerican banners on the side of 0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:36.280 his bus and doing dumb shit, you know, taking selfies, 0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:38.120 and I was like, this is stupid. 0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:38.920 And this is getting out of hand. 0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:41.160 Like I didn't. I didn't that you're a great guy. 0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:43.799 He's a great guy. It's fun. Yeah, it's all good. 0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:46.359 It's all good. So years later the song came out 0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:47.600 Hard years later. 0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:48.800 DJ Paul says. 0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:55.239 Hey man, we're working on a Trump music. Fucking what 0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:57.239 is it now? Three? Three? It was three? 0:51:57.480 --> 0:51:57.680 Yeah? 0:51:58.360 --> 0:51:59.759 How was you want to fuck with? 0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:02.440 Three? I like three a lot. Love three the record 0:52:02.440 --> 0:52:05.640 with Dube's hard as fuck. Yeah, great album. I love 0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:06.200 three threes. 0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:07.440 I thought three was crazy. 0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:08.080 No, I agree. 0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:10.200 Two's got some classics on me. 0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:14.719 Two though, it's just like peak willpower. Well, you know what, 0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:17.759 good point because to me, because because and three will 0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:20.480 power was not fully present because I had will power 0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:21.680 at my house when I think it. 0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:24.640 Was Box Chevy four where he just freaks the instrumental 0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:27.160 for like three minutes at the end, and it's just 0:52:27.280 --> 0:52:29.719 like it was like almost like the closest thing to 0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:30.759 a hip hop solo. 0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:32.719 There is, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We went crazy 0:52:32.800 --> 0:52:34.600 on that one. But no, I love I mean listen, 0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:39.120 I was both appreciate it. Three is amazing, love three 0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:39.920 thank you well. 0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:45.320 DJ Paul was like, you know, we're making rowdy And 0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:48.080 by the way, it was about it. If you bout it, 0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:49.560 say you bout it. 0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:53.040 I'm about it. The city that is about it, about it, No, 0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:55.680 it's about it. But we couldn't get we couldn't we 0:52:55.719 --> 0:52:59.120 couldn't get in contact with Master, Peeve or nothing. Paul 0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:05.439 was just like, man, fuck it color rowdy. Yeah, he goes, hey, man. 0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:06.520 Go get uh. 0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:11.120 He goes go get mg K and eminem and we 0:53:11.239 --> 0:53:16.799 had the craziest record of all time. So he's like, y'all, 0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:20.640 three white boys get out of here. It's gonna be crazy. 0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:23.960 And I was like, that's not a bad idea actually, 0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:25.640 So I recorded it. 0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:28.960 And fucking senate Sena to Marshall and you know, ship 0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:32.880 next thing, you know, Marshall fucking went went crazy on 0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:35.640 on mg k's they had to kill show. I had 0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:36.560 actually think. 0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:40.960 Mg pivots, you know, do my thing, because there was 0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:44.520 I feel like, was there did they? Because that came 0:53:44.520 --> 0:53:47.399 out that was your last album on Shady Right Truck 0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:47.919 Music three? 0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:52.600 Was it? I believe it was? Yeah? 0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:55.479 I think so because after that was my independent release 0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:56.160 Ghtto Cowboy. 0:53:56.440 --> 0:54:00.440 Was there any pushback from Shady having MGK the album 0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:00.839 at the time? 0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:05.640 Now, there was no, No. Marshall was all about it. Marshall. 0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:09.680 Marshall like, no, respectfully, I did tap in for sure. 0:54:09.680 --> 0:54:11.480 You know what I'm saying, Like, I ain't fucking not 0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:14.000 a fool jumping off a cliffs. No, I'm not like 0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:17.160 because to be honest, it was like if if you 0:54:17.800 --> 0:54:20.680 if you say no and you say go to war, there, 0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:24.560 let's go. It's it's it's curtains like respectfully on some 0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:27.399 hip hop ships, of course tap in with the sense 0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:32.319 he so I did, and fucking he was like, nah, man, 0:54:32.440 --> 0:54:35.120 like you know, people want to hear that, you know, 0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:38.520 and it just you know, I've always had a lot 0:54:38.560 --> 0:54:41.200 of respect for Marshall obviously, you know, I've looked up 0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:44.480 to up to him for years. That moment was kind 0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:48.160 of like, damn, man, you really give a fuck about me, 0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:50.080 you know what I mean, Like you really care that 0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:53.239 much to put aside and be like, yeah and let 0:54:53.360 --> 0:54:56.760 me live. Ipect. Knowing that I had invested this before 0:54:56.760 --> 0:54:59.759 I knew this happened, I was just like, man, you're 0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:05.320 man that I got nothing bad to say about Shady 0:55:05.440 --> 0:55:08.200 or that whole time I was there. There's you know, 0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:11.120 we hit our we bumped our heads on the first album, 0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:16.080 you know, like creatively, you know, yeah, I mean I remember, 0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:17.200 but I remember you. 0:55:17.280 --> 0:55:18.920 I mean you recorded most of that Ilum in Vegas, 0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:22.040 all of it, yeah, at Moll's house, and then some. 0:55:22.200 --> 0:55:26.520 Of it in Detroit, like we did Heartbreak in Detroit. 0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:31.279 Let me tell you about heartbreak. Yeah, it's one of 0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:33.080 my favorites. That's probably the best song on that album. 0:55:34.680 --> 0:55:35.839 I like the one with Ritz too. 0:55:36.600 --> 0:55:39.080 I just burped right into the mIRC. It happens when 0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:42.200 you talk for Yeah, No, it's crazy because radioactive to me, 0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:47.160 I remember, you know what it was though, keV, What 0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:51.600 have you seen Wayne's World? Yeah? Of course I know 0:55:51.719 --> 0:55:55.600 most people have. It's kind of rhetorical, but I like, 0:55:56.880 --> 0:56:02.279 but yeah, great, fair enough. But so great movie by 0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:06.160 the way, great movie, by the way. Both is there? Three? 0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:13.480 Is there a thirty? So no, that scene where you 0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:18.640 know they have this crazy underground show and you know it, 0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:22.279 they have their stees and you know, everything's like kind 0:56:22.280 --> 0:56:26.719 of perfect, and they get ripped up and thrown into 0:56:26.840 --> 0:56:31.680 this corporate scene and then it goes the their theme 0:56:31.800 --> 0:56:35.960 music changes. You know, it's all fucking dressed up to 0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:37.760 be pretty and not the same show anymore. 0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:39.360 And that is. 0:56:40.360 --> 0:56:43.960 Exactly what happened to me with my first album. 0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:45.600 Like even. 0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:49.040 My logo got flipped. 0:56:49.040 --> 0:56:51.960 They had an art department at Interscope that fucking changed 0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:55.840 my logo and like put the radioactive symbol and the 0:56:56.000 --> 0:56:59.880 o of yellow Wolf and like orange beanies and like 0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:03.200 just all kinds of weird you know, ship that like 0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:06.000 people think I'm responsible for. So there's so much of 0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:09.400 that that I was just like, what the like wanting 0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:11.200 to flip over tables, you know what I mean, like, 0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:14.200 what the fuck are you doing? Fucking it up? And 0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:16.560 then and then creatively, you know, it was such a 0:57:16.720 --> 0:57:19.080 rat race to be on that album because like, oh 0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:21.800 my god, fucking eminem sound a white boy, What the 0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:22.480 fuck is going on? 0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:24.160 I want to I have to be a part of this. 0:57:24.240 --> 0:57:26.880 And plus, you know, I was buzzing pretty heavy at 0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:29.400 the time with with with Trump music and everything that 0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:31.720 had going on. And then. 0:57:34.320 --> 0:57:37.840 Poop, you know, we had poo Bear in the studio 0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:38.720 whom I loved. 0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:43.080 Happy Birthday, Happy Birthday shouts at audibles too, Happy Birthday, 0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:48.080 shout out to Molly mal you know, wild Era Bear, 0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:53.200 j Dot Kawan, Prather, the whole, the whole Gang Park 0:57:53.400 --> 0:57:54.959 in Vegas House. 0:57:55.280 --> 0:57:57.440 Oh yeah, that was before it was like on MTV 0:57:57.520 --> 0:57:59.120 and people really knew who Mall was. Like that was 0:57:59.200 --> 0:58:02.640 like peak, like mysterious random mansion in. 0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:05.320 The I love Mall the mam man that that that dude, 0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:08.040 he liked My mom came out like look, they became 0:58:08.120 --> 0:58:11.640 like super super Superman. He would fly my mom out 0:58:12.040 --> 0:58:14.160 and just get my like cart my mom around in 0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:15.480 a may box, you know what I mean, Like just 0:58:15.520 --> 0:58:18.080 like with a driver. Dinner with you, your mom and 0:58:18.240 --> 0:58:20.760 him at the Palms one time. Oh my god, that 0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:23.000 was Newport. That was my first big bill. That was 0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:25.760 my first big dinner bill. Mmm, and your name was 0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:28.240 it was It was like seven thousand dollars to feed 0:58:28.280 --> 0:58:30.800 your puckish. Remember it was the first time you had 0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:34.840 your name on the Palm sign up on the Marquee, 0:58:35.440 --> 0:58:37.560 which the Palms Market and it was Palms is that 0:58:37.760 --> 0:58:39.760 ship because there was like rain and there was the 0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:43.680 spot on the fucking roof and yeah, pump man, Me 0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:47.600 and me and Travis bark That was my highest paying 0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:52.240 show was me and Travis Barker New Year's at the Palms. 0:58:53.080 --> 0:59:00.160 I remember teen minutes hommy hunter k that's beautiful. You 0:59:00.200 --> 0:59:02.760 know what I'm saying. Let's go me and me and 0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:06.000 fucking there was one of clothing me and Travers was like, 0:59:06.320 --> 0:59:09.440 yup it fucking split that shit up and dip well. 0:59:09.560 --> 0:59:11.880 It was one of the clothing conventions that was in town. 0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:15.160 And that shit don't exist no more. The palms, not 0:59:15.240 --> 0:59:17.280 the money. The money is still there, trust me, no. 0:59:17.440 --> 0:59:21.160 But I remember me and you went to a Travis 0:59:21.320 --> 0:59:24.920 Sweet party and it was like, you know, they were 0:59:24.960 --> 0:59:27.600 just giving away tennis shoes and shit from whatever shoe 0:59:27.640 --> 0:59:29.840 company had. So I left with like, you know, at 0:59:29.840 --> 0:59:31.640 the time, I'm making like twenty five grand a year 0:59:31.640 --> 0:59:34.360 at that shitty Vegas radio station, So I'm like, how 0:59:34.480 --> 0:59:37.640 I can have some I'm walking down the fucking elevator 0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:39.760 with like twelve pairs of shoes to try to fucking sell. 0:59:39.680 --> 0:59:43.720 It, and like all this Famous stars and strap shit, 0:59:43.800 --> 0:59:46.040 and I'm like, cool, this shit's going on. You know, 0:59:46.120 --> 0:59:49.120 I have my own shoe on Famous I think I 0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:51.960 recall that. Yeah, designed it. I drew that motherfucker on 0:59:52.080 --> 0:59:55.520 paper in the back of the bus. And so there 0:59:55.600 --> 0:59:58.600 was an opportunity to extend the deal with Famous. So 1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:03.240 I was like, man, well, I'm down to I'm down 1:00:03.320 --> 1:00:06.080 to do another run. But can I have my own 1:00:06.160 --> 1:00:09.560 like like kind of a sub line, which I was like, 1:00:09.920 --> 1:00:12.920 we'll call it Country Fresh. And then I want a 1:00:12.960 --> 1:00:15.800 shoe deal? Can I get a shoe? I always wanted 1:00:15.840 --> 1:00:18.520 a shoe, So I designed this shoe a red shoe. 1:00:19.200 --> 1:00:21.560 I remember him, you remember I remember they were higher, right, 1:00:21.760 --> 1:00:24.760 they were like a chuck a boot, Yeah, yeah, but 1:00:24.800 --> 1:00:26.800 they had their friends around the back. I remember him. 1:00:26.840 --> 1:00:31.280 I remember him man almost like a ghost face wallaby 1:00:31.360 --> 1:00:34.280 if you will, ish kind of a wallaby, a little 1:00:34.320 --> 1:00:36.800 bit of advanced chuck a boot kind of a wallaby 1:00:36.880 --> 1:00:43.120 and moccasin blend. Yes, hard ass toe box. By the way, 1:00:43.440 --> 1:00:50.600 like the silhouette on this shoe is so sick. And 1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:54.200 I'm not sure, but I want to say that whoever 1:00:54.320 --> 1:00:57.040 was running famous at the time got fired for that 1:00:57.200 --> 1:01:01.520 shoe because they made too many. They got, they got, 1:01:01.560 --> 1:01:03.960 they got too stoked on it and made too many shoes. 1:01:04.600 --> 1:01:08.640 And but that shoe, it was a unique shoe. Bro Listen, 1:01:09.160 --> 1:01:13.640 it got ripped. Van's got a hold of that design. 1:01:13.840 --> 1:01:16.280 Louis Watan got a hold of that design. That's crazy. 1:01:16.440 --> 1:01:20.320 Diamond up, Nick Diamond Diamond got got a hold of 1:01:20.640 --> 1:01:22.640 a little piece of there was like that that friends 1:01:22.720 --> 1:01:23.680 off the back of that shoe. 1:01:23.840 --> 1:01:24.640 It went crazy. 1:01:25.400 --> 1:01:25.520 Yo. 1:01:26.480 --> 1:01:28.320 Getting back to the first album, do you feel like 1:01:28.440 --> 1:01:31.840 a record Like's If You were to Move? I feel 1:01:31.880 --> 1:01:34.640 like a record like Let's Roll at that time? Was 1:01:35.760 --> 1:01:38.040 at the time you were getting pushed at urban and 1:01:38.120 --> 1:01:40.960 rhythmic radio, which was like hip hop radio, and it's 1:01:41.040 --> 1:01:44.600 kind of a It was just a hard sell to 1:01:44.800 --> 1:01:46.440 close minded program directors at that time. 1:01:46.440 --> 1:01:49.040 Always art, I'm never not hard, you know what I'm saying. 1:01:49.400 --> 1:01:51.160 If you move forward, like I feel like a lot 1:01:51.240 --> 1:01:52.920 of that ship like that, to me is a record 1:01:53.000 --> 1:01:57.360 that's like nowadays, the genre is ship like really goes. 1:01:57.480 --> 1:02:00.560 It's almost like you know, like I feel like you're 1:02:00.560 --> 1:02:01.960 almost like you were ahead of your you kind of 1:02:02.000 --> 1:02:06.080 fucking ran through bullets so people could walk safely at night. 1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:07.480 When it comes to a lot of this ship, you 1:02:07.520 --> 1:02:10.280 know what I mean, I mean, and then I app 1:02:10.640 --> 1:02:12.040 say that a lot of guys will give you that credit. 1:02:12.080 --> 1:02:13.560 You know what I mean, thank you, thank you. You know, 1:02:14.160 --> 1:02:17.280 I'll take the flowers, you know, like I know, you know, 1:02:17.320 --> 1:02:19.920 I like if you know, you know, but you know, 1:02:20.040 --> 1:02:24.440 it's like, you know, walking that line took a lot 1:02:24.480 --> 1:02:29.640 of fucking like I had to make like boss decisions 1:02:30.920 --> 1:02:35.680 at a young artist age, like not not age and 1:02:36.200 --> 1:02:39.080 not age specifically, I just mean like I'm a new artist, 1:02:39.160 --> 1:02:42.360 but I gotta make boss decisions. One of those decisions 1:02:42.600 --> 1:02:46.640 was we were in Harlem to shoot, let's roll the 1:02:46.800 --> 1:02:50.880 whole out. The whole video was shot in Harlem with 1:02:51.160 --> 1:02:55.600 DJ Coolhirk, me, Bob and HERK and a Cadillac around 1:02:55.840 --> 1:03:00.400 around Harlem. By the way, there's an argument going on 1:03:00.800 --> 1:03:03.640 of not not an argument, but a discussion. There's a 1:03:03.680 --> 1:03:09.160 discussion going on. Cool Heirk told me that, you know, 1:03:09.240 --> 1:03:14.040 he created hip hop and and in in this particular neighborhood. 1:03:14.400 --> 1:03:16.880 He you know, he brought the tables Cedric Conceder, right, 1:03:17.000 --> 1:03:19.200 is this is the and then the other the other 1:03:19.920 --> 1:03:21.360 And he told me the whole story. I'm not going 1:03:21.440 --> 1:03:24.840 to go into depth about it, you know whatever, but 1:03:25.400 --> 1:03:27.120 it made a lot of sense to me, Like you know, 1:03:27.400 --> 1:03:31.760 the break beats and the MC's and how he's credited 1:03:31.800 --> 1:03:33.720 as the guy who kind of kicked the ship off 1:03:34.080 --> 1:03:36.480 kind of No, he's credited as the guy like he's 1:03:36.600 --> 1:03:38.120 the guy, he's the inventor of hip hop. 1:03:38.240 --> 1:03:38.400 Yeah. 1:03:38.560 --> 1:03:46.360 But then Africa ben Bata, right, so there's thing going down, 1:03:46.680 --> 1:03:49.880 you know, but Bob and there's a lot of things 1:03:49.960 --> 1:03:52.000 going down with Africa. The whole time that we're recording 1:03:52.080 --> 1:03:56.800 this video, Bob and and HERK are just going Bob 1:03:56.960 --> 1:03:58.640 is kid rock. By the way, I just called him, 1:03:59.680 --> 1:04:01.360 I feel worried about calling m kid rock every time 1:04:01.440 --> 1:04:02.480 kid rock, kid Rock, kid Rock. 1:04:02.520 --> 1:04:03.840 He said, Bob, it's Bob, It's Bobby. 1:04:04.640 --> 1:04:07.240 So they're going back and forth, you know, with this story, 1:04:07.320 --> 1:04:09.160 and I'm just soaking it up, man, you know what 1:04:09.160 --> 1:04:11.080 I mean. We're rolling through Harlem and shit, and it 1:04:11.200 --> 1:04:14.800 was beautiful. But at the end of the edit I 1:04:14.960 --> 1:04:18.240 saw it and I was like, Bro, I'm from Alabama. 1:04:18.360 --> 1:04:20.520 My first single cannot be shot in Harlem. 1:04:21.120 --> 1:04:21.560 It can't. 1:04:22.480 --> 1:04:24.720 I need to shoot the rest of this in Alabama. Somehow, 1:04:25.200 --> 1:04:30.760 no budget, none, zero label says no. I call the director. 1:04:31.800 --> 1:04:34.000 This is what I'm saying about making boss decisions. I 1:04:34.120 --> 1:04:37.920 called the director. I said, I'll pay you everything that 1:04:38.000 --> 1:04:41.960 I have, please come to Alabama. And I did my 1:04:42.160 --> 1:04:45.200 fucking money, and I did not have a lot of money. 1:04:45.640 --> 1:04:48.960 I spent every three shoot. I think it cost me 1:04:49.040 --> 1:04:52.200 like sixty grand and I may have had like maybe 1:04:52.440 --> 1:04:56.920 seventy thousand dollars in the bank. And I took like 1:04:57.960 --> 1:05:00.960 that sixty and put it direc directly in his pocket. 1:05:01.960 --> 1:05:03.880 And so let's shoot the rest of the ship in Alabama. 1:05:04.720 --> 1:05:08.360 And thank God, because like Bro, that was the part 1:05:08.720 --> 1:05:13.920 that that guided the country rap shit that. 1:05:14.080 --> 1:05:16.760 Was that was to follow, and I think that had 1:05:16.760 --> 1:05:18.920 a lot to do with I don't know if you 1:05:19.080 --> 1:05:21.560 still their part well, I mean obviously being being because 1:05:21.600 --> 1:05:24.320 it was. Wasn't it Alabama's theme song for one of 1:05:24.360 --> 1:05:26.480 their their championship runs or something? I remember seeing it 1:05:26.520 --> 1:05:27.080 on ESPN. 1:05:27.400 --> 1:05:28.080 Let me tell you something. 1:05:28.280 --> 1:05:30.400 I'll tell you a real funny story about that ship, 1:05:31.000 --> 1:05:33.520 roll Tide. Tell you a real funny story about that 1:05:33.680 --> 1:05:38.520 motherfucking shit. All right, shout to Rollie Willie. Now it's 1:05:38.600 --> 1:05:40.640 roll tiede to the grip because you know, it's a 1:05:40.680 --> 1:05:41.960 birthright when you're from Alabama. 1:05:42.000 --> 1:05:44.000 It's just some shit that you're just born with, you 1:05:44.080 --> 1:05:47.040 know what I mean? Like, come on, look, it's. 1:05:47.000 --> 1:05:51.640 Roll Tide, sign hearted Dixie, Alabama. It's getting it so 1:05:54.520 --> 1:06:01.640 recipes Tommy Mitchell, Barbara Mitchell, Barbara Jean so so like, yeah, 1:06:01.800 --> 1:06:04.600 you we had we had this whole like there was 1:06:04.640 --> 1:06:05.880 an importance to that song. 1:06:06.280 --> 1:06:07.440 Let's roll roll. 1:06:07.320 --> 1:06:11.720 Tide, duh, duh, right, match made in heaven. Like but 1:06:11.920 --> 1:06:13.560 even when I wrote it, I didn't think about that, 1:06:14.200 --> 1:06:16.520 you know what I'm saying. But I was like, oh, yeah, 1:06:16.720 --> 1:06:19.760 let's fucking let's go out and fucking support the Crimson 1:06:19.840 --> 1:06:23.280 Tide at what is it the Iron Bow Iron Bowl 1:06:23.280 --> 1:06:28.320 with Auburn. Yeah, so they're in Tuscaloosa for the Iron 1:06:28.360 --> 1:06:31.640 Bowl and we're gonna go work. Let's roll at the 1:06:31.760 --> 1:06:37.840 Arn Bowl and I pull up, pull up to the 1:06:37.960 --> 1:06:41.440 Ron Bowl and there's a dude, I'm not shipping you 1:06:41.560 --> 1:06:45.560 hanging out of a truck can with a with a 1:06:46.640 --> 1:06:51.400 like the fucking what are the megaphone? Megaphone hanging out 1:06:51.480 --> 1:06:53.480 the truck the side of a truck like a like 1:06:53.560 --> 1:06:58.440 a like a U Haul truck, literally a U Haul truck. 1:07:01.360 --> 1:07:06.000 You're the wolf is in the building outside by the way, 1:07:06.080 --> 1:07:09.720 we're outside, you're the wolf is in the building. You're 1:07:09.800 --> 1:07:17.200 the and like they have let's roll posters about on 1:07:17.320 --> 1:07:21.720 the truck size about the size of this big Lebowski poster. 1:07:23.400 --> 1:07:26.280 Taped in multiple across. 1:07:26.800 --> 1:07:33.440 Do you wow? Innerscope had given this promotional company. 1:07:34.560 --> 1:07:39.240 Money to promote me. They plastered my poster on the 1:07:39.280 --> 1:07:40.640 side of this U haul truck. 1:07:40.760 --> 1:07:42.720 How much they truck and walked around how much hold 1:07:42.800 --> 1:07:44.400 up and walked around I'll get to that, and walked 1:07:44.520 --> 1:07:49.600 and drove around yelling that shit out. But first of all, 1:07:49.880 --> 1:07:53.640 when I saw that the car wasn't even stopping. My 1:07:53.760 --> 1:07:59.200 manager goes, I say, Yo, what what the And I 1:07:59.280 --> 1:08:01.760 fucking I jump out of the car. Where are still rolling? 1:08:03.040 --> 1:08:05.560 And Jaya goes, no, no, no, please please, no no, no, 1:08:05.640 --> 1:08:08.320 no no no, I'm fucking I'm yanking all the posters 1:08:08.360 --> 1:08:10.680 off a fucking fucking take the dude's fucking megaphone out 1:08:10.720 --> 1:08:13.280 of his fucking hand, like, fucking throw that shit on 1:08:13.360 --> 1:08:15.920 the ground, get the fuck out of here. So they had, 1:08:16.080 --> 1:08:19.479 so they probably took about fifteen hundred dollars to pay 1:08:19.560 --> 1:08:21.800 that guy to do that, and then and took the 1:08:21.920 --> 1:08:25.439 other twenty grand, Yeah, and paid for a frat party 1:08:25.600 --> 1:08:28.320 keg party. Well just for people who don't know bow. 1:08:28.920 --> 1:08:30.640 If that's how that works, well, if you're an up 1:08:30.680 --> 1:08:34.879 and coming artist, the number one way that people inside 1:08:34.920 --> 1:08:37.160 of the buildings steal money from artists budgets is the 1:08:37.200 --> 1:08:40.400 street team budget. Yeah, it's all bullshit. 1:08:40.479 --> 1:08:43.360 It's a bullshit like if you if there's still there's 1:08:43.360 --> 1:08:46.000 still labels right now that when an album drops, it's 1:08:46.120 --> 1:08:48.719 in people's deals that fifty k is allocated for street 1:08:48.760 --> 1:08:51.679 team marketing. To this day, I'm talking about major labels, 1:08:52.000 --> 1:08:55.720 and I know people in those buildings that split that 1:08:55.800 --> 1:08:56.679 money between themselves. 1:08:56.680 --> 1:08:58.680 They'll take all your fucking posters and throw them in 1:08:58.680 --> 1:09:01.000 the dumpster and say, yeah, say I ran the streets. 1:09:01.640 --> 1:09:03.280 What you have to do is you got to have 1:09:03.520 --> 1:09:09.880 someone that you like. When we did our ship, we 1:09:11.080 --> 1:09:13.200 what's a fucking phone call right there? And I might 1:09:13.240 --> 1:09:17.240 a sure take that not going to fuck fuck it? 1:09:20.160 --> 1:09:24.800 So oh man, God, that just threw me off of 1:09:26.200 --> 1:09:28.599 what uh okay? So yeah, So I used to work 1:09:28.640 --> 1:09:30.640 for a marketing company when I was a kid. I 1:09:31.439 --> 1:09:39.760 so in in in New York and two thousand. I 1:09:39.880 --> 1:09:44.479 worked for a company called Guerrilla Marketing, and I did 1:09:44.520 --> 1:09:46.519 a lot of hip hop albums during that time. One 1:09:46.560 --> 1:09:51.320 of them was Autobionics for De La Soul. So I 1:09:51.680 --> 1:09:55.560 would go around the streets wearing a space suit in 1:09:55.680 --> 1:09:58.439 New York City, like a full on space like a 1:09:58.520 --> 1:10:02.400 space suit dog. And I painted this big like god, 1:10:02.439 --> 1:10:04.599 I don't know where that that painting, man, if someone 1:10:04.640 --> 1:10:08.960 could find that, holy shit I painted. I painted their 1:10:09.160 --> 1:10:15.120 album cover on a piece of canvas and and I 1:10:15.120 --> 1:10:19.120 would walk around the city, you know, with this suit 1:10:19.320 --> 1:10:23.519 the sign. My other job was to take posters and 1:10:23.560 --> 1:10:26.519 stickers and put them up in all these record stores. Now, 1:10:26.800 --> 1:10:29.560 I did that because I honored day La Soul, you know, 1:10:29.720 --> 1:10:32.400 and I also honored the job of promotion. I understood it, 1:10:32.640 --> 1:10:37.080 you know, and I was loyal. Some of the mother motherfuckers, though, 1:10:38.080 --> 1:10:40.360 they would take like a bag of like day La 1:10:40.439 --> 1:10:45.400 Soul's posters literally on the street, literally and then go 1:10:45.560 --> 1:10:48.080 get pizza, do whatever the fuck they wanted to do. 1:10:48.760 --> 1:10:51.200 You know, you're working from from from noon to to 1:10:51.320 --> 1:10:53.800 seven or eight at night, and they would just clock 1:10:53.840 --> 1:10:56.600 out at eight, and we're like, yeah, I handled that so. 1:10:57.320 --> 1:11:00.840 That that it's worse nowadays, that kind of shit don't 1:11:00.880 --> 1:11:02.960 even exist anymore. The money is just invisible. It's like 1:11:02.960 --> 1:11:03.360 where to go. 1:11:03.680 --> 1:11:05.920 Shit. We don't fuck around though, man, my my, my 1:11:06.080 --> 1:11:09.479 boys are from the streets and have done I'm not 1:11:09.560 --> 1:11:10.240 talking about crime. 1:11:10.280 --> 1:11:11.280 I'm talking about street shit. 1:11:11.320 --> 1:11:15.439 I'm talking about street art, street ship, you know, street promotion, 1:11:15.720 --> 1:11:19.600 like gorilla shit. So when we do shiit, we you know, 1:11:19.920 --> 1:11:21.720 we're on point with it, and like you ain't. You 1:11:21.760 --> 1:11:24.360 ain't slipping up, man, We're tapping in. We know the tricks, 1:11:24.479 --> 1:11:26.479 so you ain't pulling that pulling that shit over here. 1:11:26.720 --> 1:11:29.040 You talked about having that job, wasn't there like a 1:11:29.160 --> 1:11:31.360 year in which you were doing like deep ice fishing. 1:11:31.400 --> 1:11:33.120 Oh you want to hear something crazy on a boat 1:11:33.240 --> 1:11:36.120 somewhere just before we go there, when I was. 1:11:36.160 --> 1:11:38.520 In front of t R L in a fucking spacesuit. 1:11:39.280 --> 1:11:42.080 It's an era. My wife that I would meet years 1:11:42.160 --> 1:11:47.320 later was in Fife. Yes, Fife Dobson was in my 1:11:47.439 --> 1:11:50.840 ex wife. But she's you, guys are it's very coolsher. 1:11:51.240 --> 1:11:51.880 I love Fefe. 1:11:52.000 --> 1:11:52.559 I love her to death. 1:11:52.560 --> 1:11:54.280 I'd like to point out Tennessee Life, one of the 1:11:54.479 --> 1:11:58.719 most fucking emotionally amazing love songs ever my wife. 1:11:59.439 --> 1:12:02.400 I played it my wedding. Yeah, I played this song 1:12:02.439 --> 1:12:02.840 on my wedding. 1:12:02.920 --> 1:12:04.160 It was one of the songs it was like, it 1:12:04.240 --> 1:12:05.719 was like one of the ten songs that I needed 1:12:05.760 --> 1:12:06.840 to play before we came out. 1:12:07.120 --> 1:12:11.360 I should have played it at my wedding. Fucking should 1:12:11.360 --> 1:12:17.360 have fucking wrapped that ship to her face. Maybe my 1:12:17.439 --> 1:12:20.760 marriage would have turned out better. No, nah nah, I 1:12:20.840 --> 1:12:23.400 love Fife to death. She's amazing, Like seriously, all time 1:12:23.479 --> 1:12:26.880 great Canadian listen, all time, great artists, all time, great 1:12:27.280 --> 1:12:30.800 human all time, like the first of her kind in 1:12:30.920 --> 1:12:36.800 so many ways, like artistically just untouched, like just unbelievable. 1:12:37.160 --> 1:12:38.479 So love you Fife. 1:12:38.600 --> 1:12:41.240 If you watch him, she saw me the highest night 1:12:41.320 --> 1:12:42.800 of my life. I tell the story all the time. 1:12:43.160 --> 1:12:45.040 It is the first time I ever really talked to 1:12:45.120 --> 1:12:49.280 a Fifi. You and Ritz were on tour and I 1:12:49.600 --> 1:12:52.760 ate a whole weed brownie that I shouldn't ate, and 1:12:53.720 --> 1:12:55.720 that shit hit me like a fucking. 1:12:55.479 --> 1:12:56.519 Ton of bricks. Dude. 1:12:56.760 --> 1:12:58.720 You know the first song that we did that how 1:12:58.840 --> 1:13:02.360 Fifi and I like hit it off? Animal produced by 1:13:02.439 --> 1:13:08.120 Diplo Crazy on Radioactive and she featured on that record, 1:13:08.520 --> 1:13:10.920 and we hung out and and I didn't realize Diplo 1:13:11.000 --> 1:13:17.599 made that beat. Cannot confirm or deny whether Diplo actually 1:13:17.680 --> 1:13:24.280 made that beat, but let's just say he did. Okay, Nah, 1:13:24.880 --> 1:13:27.320 Diplo is a for goddamn man, dude, Like, I'm sure 1:13:27.320 --> 1:13:30.200 he did make the beat, but sometimes he just produces 1:13:30.240 --> 1:13:31.280 and he don't touch it. 1:13:33.000 --> 1:13:34.479 Yeah, fucking get get it. 1:13:34.520 --> 1:13:38.240 How you live. I'm not mad. He like our friend 1:13:38.320 --> 1:13:41.960 Molly More produce. Yes, Producing doesn't mean okay, this is 1:13:42.040 --> 1:13:44.320 for real, for real, this is for real. Producing does 1:13:44.439 --> 1:13:48.360 not mean that you touch any instrument. Sometimes producing is 1:13:48.439 --> 1:13:54.599 producing the room, producing an artist, facilitating relationships, knowing who 1:13:54.760 --> 1:13:56.920 and who needs to work with one another, and that 1:13:57.160 --> 1:14:00.519 is indeed literally producing. And a lot of the fuckers 1:14:00.560 --> 1:14:03.800 who think their producers are just making loops. So like, 1:14:03.960 --> 1:14:06.559 don't call yourself a producer if you're making a loop 1:14:06.840 --> 1:14:09.639 and you email it to somebody and they then turn 1:14:09.760 --> 1:14:12.880 that into a hit record because they are the people 1:14:12.880 --> 1:14:15.040 who are producing the song. You just made a loop. 1:14:15.320 --> 1:14:20.040 Facts and yeah, for real, loop it. 1:14:21.000 --> 1:14:23.640 Just call yourself a looper. You're a looper? What was 1:14:23.680 --> 1:14:26.240 that movie? Wasn't that? Wasn't there a Bruce Willis movie 1:14:26.280 --> 1:14:29.360 with that was called Looper? It was a Bruce Looper. 1:14:29.720 --> 1:14:32.360 That's a good producer name. No tell me about the 1:14:32.400 --> 1:14:34.120 time though, because you were you were like a fisherman 1:14:34.240 --> 1:14:36.800 right for a little bit. Was this in I was 1:14:36.840 --> 1:14:40.760 insane man night eighteen nineteen Seattle. I was out of 1:14:40.840 --> 1:14:43.800 my goddamn gord. Yeah, dude, I fucking jumped on the 1:14:43.800 --> 1:14:48.760 ground bus five five days up across. Oh my god, bro, 1:14:49.240 --> 1:14:52.960 I was I wasn't gadzed and acting a fool, like 1:14:53.240 --> 1:15:00.559 really really really down bad like you've seen on the flow. 1:15:00.760 --> 1:15:03.720 Of course, that was my life, man. That that that 1:15:03.960 --> 1:15:06.360 if you if you could, that's the easiest way to 1:15:06.439 --> 1:15:09.400 describe with somebody the kind of environment that I was in, 1:15:10.240 --> 1:15:12.960 you know, down to the box chevy. I'm not going 1:15:13.040 --> 1:15:15.960 to go into details for about things that were going down, 1:15:16.000 --> 1:15:17.280 but I would just say that it was fucking it 1:15:17.360 --> 1:15:17.960 was going down. 1:15:18.800 --> 1:15:19.400 So I jumped. 1:15:19.439 --> 1:15:21.280 I jumped on the I jumped on the greyhound bus 1:15:21.360 --> 1:15:24.719 with the thought of getting twenty grand in the season. Somebody, 1:15:24.840 --> 1:15:27.479 somebody like in Aniston, Alabama, was like. 1:15:28.439 --> 1:15:31.439 Yo, man, you can get twenty thousand dollars in one month. 1:15:32.240 --> 1:15:36.400 I was like, twenty thousand dollars, I mean one month 1:15:36.800 --> 1:15:41.479 for what for fishing? Fuck that shit. I'm going to Seattle. 1:15:41.560 --> 1:15:44.799 Let's see what's up with this shit. So I scratched 1:15:44.880 --> 1:15:47.639 up a little bit of change, got on a greyhound bus. Right, 1:15:48.000 --> 1:15:49.640 had my cousin take me to a greyhound bus at 1:15:49.680 --> 1:15:54.559 like midnight in Dothan. There were two buses and they 1:15:54.680 --> 1:15:57.559 both said Washington's keV. You can't make this shuit up. 1:15:59.080 --> 1:15:59.679 One was DC. 1:16:00.400 --> 1:16:00.639 Yeah. 1:16:03.320 --> 1:16:03.519 Yeah. 1:16:04.520 --> 1:16:06.760 The bus I got on was going to UH to 1:16:07.000 --> 1:16:11.400 UH to Washington. So I get on the bus and 1:16:11.760 --> 1:16:15.080 fall asleep like a rock. Wake up in Atlanta, Georgia, 1:16:15.840 --> 1:16:19.479 and I'm like it's the wrong direction. Yes, and I'm like, 1:16:20.920 --> 1:16:24.679 fuck man, like I was, just like, I just told 1:16:24.720 --> 1:16:27.880 my boy Snake, who was who was traveling with me 1:16:27.960 --> 1:16:31.120 at the time, because I had befriended him. I was like, Snake, 1:16:31.160 --> 1:16:33.560 you come with me, Let's go get this bread. So 1:16:33.720 --> 1:16:36.320 he's with me, and I was like, dude, just don't 1:16:36.360 --> 1:16:39.160 get off the bus. If we just act like we're asleep, 1:16:39.840 --> 1:16:42.400 just don't get off the bus. So we did, and 1:16:42.520 --> 1:16:45.720 we waited all the way up to Chicago, where they 1:16:45.800 --> 1:16:48.760 made us get off the bus and I talked to 1:16:48.880 --> 1:16:50.840 that I talked to the managers and we got on 1:16:50.880 --> 1:16:53.479 the wrong bus. He said, in Alabama, how the fuck 1:16:53.520 --> 1:16:55.360 did you figure out you was going the wrong way 1:16:55.439 --> 1:16:58.640 by the time you made it to Chicago. I was like, 1:16:59.240 --> 1:16:59.640 I don't know. 1:17:00.160 --> 1:17:01.599 You know, I fucking hustled him. 1:17:02.280 --> 1:17:05.320 This dude was so cool. He gave me and Snake 1:17:05.800 --> 1:17:08.280 tickets to get all the way to fucking Seattle, but 1:17:08.360 --> 1:17:11.479 we went across the north So in short, we were 1:17:11.520 --> 1:17:13.200 on that bus for five days. I was about to say, 1:17:13.200 --> 1:17:15.720 you saw the whole country by the time we got 1:17:15.760 --> 1:17:21.360 to Chicago. Broke zero money, but we got. 1:17:22.880 --> 1:17:24.759 If that dude didn't give you a break on them tickets, 1:17:24.800 --> 1:17:27.519 you guys, have it fucked not me full, I'm a 1:17:27.880 --> 1:17:29.680 I would have figured it out absolutely. 1:17:30.040 --> 1:17:31.080 I was going to Seattle. 1:17:31.200 --> 1:17:35.240 Yeah, we figure it out. I promise you I'm going there, 1:17:36.120 --> 1:17:40.920 so you know I had that determination. So we're broke, right, no, no, 1:17:41.439 --> 1:17:44.680 no money. So we leave Chicago absolutely no money. Now 1:17:45.000 --> 1:17:49.720 greyhound makes a stop at gas stations for the for 1:17:49.800 --> 1:17:53.960 the patrons or the shop what do you call them? Oh, listen, passengers. 1:17:54.200 --> 1:17:57.960 The first time it was a little sketchy. You're like burrito, 1:17:58.439 --> 1:18:00.479 you know what I'm saying, Like you fucking like you know, 1:18:00.560 --> 1:18:02.240 you're kind of racking up a little bit. You get 1:18:02.280 --> 1:18:05.439 on the bus and kind of munching down. Second time 1:18:05.520 --> 1:18:10.960 you're like barrito. Third time you're like, fuck this, Shove 1:18:11.000 --> 1:18:14.160 me a two liter, give me a hat, some fucking jewelry. 1:18:14.240 --> 1:18:16.360 But by the top, dude, by the time we got 1:18:16.400 --> 1:18:19.519 to fucking Seattle, man, like, it got so stupid easy. 1:18:20.960 --> 1:18:22.880 So we ate all the way there. But when I 1:18:22.960 --> 1:18:24.040 landed in. 1:18:24.160 --> 1:18:34.080 Seattle New Year's night, two thousand, snowing, greyhound closes nowhere 1:18:34.120 --> 1:18:36.800 to go on the streets, like sleeping under a church. 1:18:36.880 --> 1:18:38.800 People, and my home boys state was like fucking why 1:18:38.840 --> 1:18:40.320 two k almost. 1:18:40.360 --> 1:18:44.080 Hey, man, okat my grandma, give me a ticket home? 1:18:44.280 --> 1:18:48.120 I said, what this fool left me? Left me by 1:18:48.400 --> 1:18:48.800 one day? 1:18:49.880 --> 1:18:52.639 Five days was a day trip, but after being in Seattle, 1:18:52.680 --> 1:18:54.400 we was less less than twenty four hours. He was 1:18:54.439 --> 1:18:57.000 headed back home to Alabama. I can't do this, I 1:18:57.080 --> 1:19:00.800 was like, bet I'm staying so I fucking like stay 1:19:00.840 --> 1:19:02.560 by myself on the streets for a while and like 1:19:02.760 --> 1:19:06.040 homeless life. Oh yeah, where would you sleep anywhere? I 1:19:06.080 --> 1:19:09.400 could or not sleep at all? Sometimes I feel like 1:19:09.479 --> 1:19:11.360 Seattle right now it would be a good place to 1:19:11.439 --> 1:19:14.519 be homeless right now. I don't know, dude. It's terrible. 1:19:14.560 --> 1:19:16.720 It's terrible. It's the worst. Whether it's the worst, it's 1:19:16.920 --> 1:19:19.120 the worst place to be homeless. Heard, it's lit out there, 1:19:19.360 --> 1:19:21.800 like they got lit. They got the fucking the little 1:19:21.840 --> 1:19:24.040 area that there's like that's what they called it these days. 1:19:24.080 --> 1:19:25.040 That's what the kids are calling. 1:19:26.000 --> 1:19:31.080 Very sad, fucking where you're gonna get your next No, No, 1:19:31.280 --> 1:19:33.360 they got an area there's like no laws. It's like 1:19:33.560 --> 1:19:34.960 it's it's supposed to be kind of like it's like 1:19:35.000 --> 1:19:38.479 Hamsterdam from the Wire. Did you say Hamsterdam? Did you 1:19:38.520 --> 1:19:39.200 ever watch the Wire? 1:19:40.280 --> 1:19:40.320 No? 1:19:40.439 --> 1:19:42.240 I never got into it, okay, great shows. Not to 1:19:42.280 --> 1:19:44.040 disappoint anyone. I've never I know. 1:19:44.280 --> 1:19:47.680 People love the Wire, people fucking love fucking. 1:19:49.040 --> 1:19:49.800 I've heard. 1:19:49.840 --> 1:19:52.160 I didn't watch The Wire. I didn't watch a fucking. 1:19:52.600 --> 1:19:56.760 Breaking bad No, really little bit of it. I get bored. 1:19:56.880 --> 1:20:01.000 I get bored. I get watch, but no, get bored. 1:20:01.240 --> 1:20:02.439 I gotta go. Which show was? 1:20:02.560 --> 1:20:06.000 Uh, I've never watched a season of anything until It's gone? 1:20:06.080 --> 1:20:06.200 Was on? 1:20:06.320 --> 1:20:06.719 What show? 1:20:07.400 --> 1:20:08.200 Sons of Anarchy? 1:20:09.080 --> 1:20:12.960 That's it? Great show? Never see like I saw the episode? 1:20:13.120 --> 1:20:15.519 Never seen it. You didn't see the episode your song 1:20:15.600 --> 1:20:18.559 played it? Not a single episode of Sons of Anarchy 1:20:18.640 --> 1:20:22.960 have I ever seen? I'm sure it is. Well, you 1:20:23.080 --> 1:20:25.000 end up going being homeless in Seattle to being on 1:20:25.080 --> 1:20:31.760 a boat. So so I'm on the streets and then 1:20:31.760 --> 1:20:33.439 I started doing like day to days, you know, I mean, 1:20:34.240 --> 1:20:38.080 like I had that hustle from Gadston, Like you could 1:20:38.120 --> 1:20:39.760 go up, like you could pull up at four in 1:20:39.800 --> 1:20:42.479 the morning to like a work for hire spot it's 1:20:42.520 --> 1:20:44.320 called work for yeah, and they'll give you something to 1:20:44.360 --> 1:20:46.160 do for the day, whatever it is, yeah. 1:20:46.000 --> 1:20:48.080 You know, and you get a check at the end 1:20:48.120 --> 1:20:48.400 of the day. 1:20:48.439 --> 1:20:50.560 You go cash a check, check cash and spot I 1:20:50.640 --> 1:20:53.280 had that hustle in my back pocket, so I knew 1:20:53.280 --> 1:20:54.960 I could do that. So I started doing that to 1:20:55.040 --> 1:20:59.080 pay for mine. Well, at first it was a hostel. 1:21:00.120 --> 1:21:07.519 You know, I shared bathroom. My publicist is promoting right now. 1:21:07.800 --> 1:21:10.720 This is what he does, songs, that's what he does, 1:21:11.760 --> 1:21:12.840 fucking DJing. 1:21:12.560 --> 1:21:17.120 Over there the work. So no, no, no, So I'm 1:21:17.160 --> 1:21:21.080 doing uh, you know, day to day to first play, 1:21:21.880 --> 1:21:24.880 pay for a hostel, be friend of some other kids, 1:21:27.960 --> 1:21:30.920 my homeboy Lafayette rest in Peace, who came out and 1:21:32.920 --> 1:21:35.120 he was out there randomly too, based on the same 1:21:35.240 --> 1:21:40.240 like dream of that I found him randomly. So we 1:21:40.439 --> 1:21:44.040 just collected our bread from these day to day jobs 1:21:44.080 --> 1:21:46.360 and like would get like a room, two beds, but 1:21:46.400 --> 1:21:48.160 there'll be like seven of us in like a little 1:21:48.640 --> 1:21:52.040 motel or whatever. And then after work every day was 1:21:52.120 --> 1:21:54.840 the hustles, go to the docks, knock on doors, you know, 1:21:54.960 --> 1:21:58.040 they go knock on a voat. So I did that 1:21:58.200 --> 1:22:04.200 up until the point where should I incriminate myself right now? 1:22:04.320 --> 1:22:07.160 I mean it's past the statue limitations, is it? Yeah? 1:22:07.240 --> 1:22:07.519 For sure? 1:22:07.680 --> 1:22:10.040 Was that twenty years ago, twenty five years ago? It's 1:22:10.080 --> 1:22:12.639 a ten year thing. I mean, you didn't murder somebody. 1:22:12.880 --> 1:22:14.320 No, He's like, I can't. 1:22:14.520 --> 1:22:17.120 No, No, I didn't stole a boat, not for real, 1:22:17.200 --> 1:22:19.639 but okay, so this is interesting. 1:22:20.720 --> 1:22:26.320 So one of my hustles as a kid was like, 1:22:27.439 --> 1:22:31.360 if I was hungry, I would, like, you know, I 1:22:31.400 --> 1:22:35.840 would call the pizza man or whatever, and then they 1:22:35.880 --> 1:22:38.280 would pull up and then it was just curtains. Like 1:22:38.400 --> 1:22:40.600 I would just take everything, you know, the food and 1:22:40.720 --> 1:22:43.280 everything you know, and I would just say, like, you 1:22:43.400 --> 1:22:45.760 know whatever, like I used to mask up when I 1:22:45.880 --> 1:22:49.120 was really young, give me, give me, give me the 1:22:49.160 --> 1:22:49.680 fucking tip. 1:22:50.040 --> 1:22:52.120 I've never heard a person in my life, but like it's. 1:22:52.040 --> 1:22:56.720 Just said, extra cheese, motherfucker. I think stealing food is honorable. 1:22:56.840 --> 1:22:58.880 It is honorable. Sometimes you got to steal food like 1:22:58.880 --> 1:23:00.000 Aladdin in the Disney movie. 1:23:00.960 --> 1:23:03.280 So everybody's hungry, and my hotel. 1:23:03.320 --> 1:23:04.840 I still still gum every once in a while, just 1:23:04.880 --> 1:23:05.720 to see if I still got it. 1:23:07.320 --> 1:23:09.920 I don't steal nothing anymore, every boy. 1:23:10.320 --> 1:23:12.920 If I'm in a liquor store, well not a liquor store, 1:23:12.920 --> 1:23:16.559 it's a big chain gas station and the line's crazy, 1:23:16.600 --> 1:23:18.560 and I got one pack of gum, I just I 1:23:18.680 --> 1:23:19.800 just might throw it in my pack. 1:23:20.200 --> 1:23:21.639 Well, yo, I'm out in Seattle. 1:23:21.720 --> 1:23:25.080 Okay. So, like the whole fucking crew is hungry, like 1:23:25.320 --> 1:23:27.559 all seven people that are staying this little room is hungry. 1:23:27.720 --> 1:23:32.800 And I'm like, I got it, don't worry, you know. 1:23:33.240 --> 1:23:35.960 And so I called. I called the pizza dude. He 1:23:36.040 --> 1:23:39.120 pulls up and I'm like, man, this is like bold 1:23:39.160 --> 1:23:43.160 as fuck. I'm so over it. I'm like, just give 1:23:43.200 --> 1:23:45.479 me the pizza man, like just you know what I mean. 1:23:45.680 --> 1:23:47.400 I lied to him. I said, there's people in the 1:23:47.479 --> 1:23:50.160 bushes over here and there they like, trust me, you 1:23:50.200 --> 1:23:53.080 don't want it, you know. So I like seven pizzas 1:23:53.120 --> 1:23:54.080 and shit walked in there. 1:23:54.160 --> 1:23:55.439 It was life of the party. 1:23:56.760 --> 1:24:00.560 So the next day, next day, my dumb man, I 1:24:00.680 --> 1:24:04.120 walk outside in the same clothes. Now that pizza man 1:24:04.200 --> 1:24:07.280 obviously went back and called the cops. Right, so cop 1:24:07.400 --> 1:24:10.000 rolls by, Like it's in Seattle. They have these like 1:24:10.479 --> 1:24:14.960 crazy like the interstates that they have these big dividers. 1:24:15.520 --> 1:24:18.080 But it's weird because there's no it's like a pull 1:24:18.120 --> 1:24:22.280 off into a gas station. There's no like exit. It's 1:24:22.320 --> 1:24:25.880 like so but they're like one ways, you know what 1:24:25.880 --> 1:24:28.439 I mean, one way, this one, like three lanes, this way, 1:24:28.520 --> 1:24:32.920 three lanes this way, split up, split by dividers. This 1:24:33.120 --> 1:24:35.360 cop rolls by and there's two people in his car, 1:24:35.439 --> 1:24:40.680 and he's like and fucking spotlights me as he's rolling by, 1:24:40.920 --> 1:24:44.000 and I'm like, this was like two in the afternoon, 1:24:45.400 --> 1:24:49.640 and I'm like, oh, I knew exactly, and I was 1:24:49.680 --> 1:24:50.120 in trouble. 1:24:51.160 --> 1:24:52.120 So I fucking run. 1:24:52.479 --> 1:24:55.400 He goes up and I see him making a right term, 1:24:55.680 --> 1:24:57.800 but I know that he has no chance to get 1:24:57.840 --> 1:25:00.320 across to the divider. The divider's too far. Did you 1:25:00.400 --> 1:25:01.720 play Frogger? Yes? 1:25:02.080 --> 1:25:05.800 I played Frogger real life Frogger nice and I won. 1:25:06.400 --> 1:25:11.200 I won it. It was not easy. Almost splat, almost splat. 1:25:13.960 --> 1:25:16.960 Uh So so I run across the media and jump 1:25:17.000 --> 1:25:19.960 the median like went to a like a bus stop. 1:25:22.080 --> 1:25:23.960 Took off my hat I had like a beanie on, 1:25:24.160 --> 1:25:26.599 took off my hat, my hair I had long hair 1:25:26.720 --> 1:25:29.200 like past my waist. Took off my hat, my hair 1:25:29.280 --> 1:25:30.880 found out and passed my wais, took off my jacket, 1:25:30.960 --> 1:25:32.960 threw it in the bushes, and I just sat there. 1:25:33.840 --> 1:25:35.439 I just sit there at the bus stop, and that 1:25:35.600 --> 1:25:39.519 cop rolled right past, didn't didn't put and two together, 1:25:39.600 --> 1:25:41.640 recognized me because I had long ass hair, and I 1:25:41.800 --> 1:25:44.599 wasn't wearing the same ass jacket and all that ship. 1:25:44.720 --> 1:25:45.840 So anyway, I took it so. 1:25:47.680 --> 1:25:49.800 Long the longer. The short is. I got on the 1:25:49.840 --> 1:25:52.560 greyhound bus that day and went to the docks and 1:25:52.960 --> 1:25:55.800 UH got hired immediately. As a matter of fact, they. 1:25:55.720 --> 1:25:58.120 Were like, do you got anybody else? I was like, 1:25:58.160 --> 1:25:59.400 we need to the whole room of people. 1:25:59.439 --> 1:26:02.400 We got seven. They're like, bring them. Did you guys 1:26:02.439 --> 1:26:03.120 make twenty grand? 1:26:04.000 --> 1:26:06.479 No, it was a piece of ship. It was a 1:26:06.560 --> 1:26:07.439 piece of ship. 1:26:08.240 --> 1:26:10.800 The boat that we got on was left by a 1:26:10.920 --> 1:26:15.160 Russian UH, a group of Russian fishermen that lost all 1:26:15.160 --> 1:26:17.439 their money and they left it in Seattle. It got 1:26:17.520 --> 1:26:20.120 bought by this It was a jump boat. We built 1:26:20.160 --> 1:26:22.920 the motherfucker on the way out. Imagine me with a welder, 1:26:23.920 --> 1:26:28.479 did no building this ship? Like you get this welder 1:26:28.520 --> 1:26:30.960 and weld that ship like fucking like out there, like 1:26:31.120 --> 1:26:35.120 like like like making the factory on the way to 1:26:35.200 --> 1:26:38.280 SI while it's going to see like dumping tons of 1:26:38.479 --> 1:26:40.160 rotten fish out of the bow and. 1:26:41.880 --> 1:26:42.439 And trash. 1:26:42.960 --> 1:26:45.479 Captain did that, by the way, that's a fucking ask. No, 1:26:46.000 --> 1:26:49.599 he made us. We fucking so what kind of were 1:26:49.600 --> 1:26:51.000 you guys, just any type of fish? 1:26:51.320 --> 1:26:51.439 Was it? 1:26:51.560 --> 1:26:55.160 Like fucking codfish mostly, and then like somehow a bit 1:26:56.040 --> 1:26:59.680 a lot of illegal ship too, because he was a 1:26:59.720 --> 1:27:02.280 piece of ship. What's in the ocean. You can't fish 1:27:02.320 --> 1:27:04.519 on the season, like so if you like you can't 1:27:04.560 --> 1:27:07.400 go out there and like you're dragging a net across 1:27:07.439 --> 1:27:09.880 the bearing seas, are you gonna get everything? Did you 1:27:09.920 --> 1:27:13.880 guys get it? Like any dolphins? Dude, like dolphins, fucking 1:27:14.320 --> 1:27:20.200 octopuss likes. Oh, the eels are fucked up, brodude, the 1:27:20.439 --> 1:27:22.360 halibits are fucked up. That there was a halibu that 1:27:22.400 --> 1:27:25.439 got on the boat. And you know, we're fucking young fools, 1:27:25.880 --> 1:27:28.599 so we're like wrestling this halibit. We're like fucking having 1:27:28.680 --> 1:27:31.400 challenge and it's fucking this motherfucker jumped on the back 1:27:31.400 --> 1:27:34.240 of his halibet and broke it. Broke his arm, broke 1:27:34.320 --> 1:27:36.240 his arm, It pinned him against one of the fucking 1:27:36.320 --> 1:27:38.920 cleaning things, and like you had to get helicoptered all ship. 1:27:39.080 --> 1:27:42.840 Speaking of fishing, that whole that whole thing is you 1:27:42.920 --> 1:27:45.200 know what I want to do, and you you have 1:27:45.280 --> 1:27:47.519 to tell us where to do it at So me 1:27:47.680 --> 1:27:50.519 and that Mexicano t we went boar hunting in Texas 1:27:50.560 --> 1:27:52.439 out of a fucking helicopter with machine guns. 1:27:52.600 --> 1:27:54.760 It was pretty gnarly. The next thing we want to 1:27:54.840 --> 1:27:58.960 do and it's can we get some liquor? It's inspired liquor, 1:27:59.560 --> 1:28:02.320 liquor extra quicker. It's inspired by what I saw you 1:28:02.560 --> 1:28:07.960 doing with uh was his name, Rambo, your boys mboy, 1:28:08.680 --> 1:28:10.040 the guy with the pet fucking possum. 1:28:10.760 --> 1:28:12.000 But you guys were noodling. 1:28:13.000 --> 1:28:14.400 Oh dude, you don't want no parts of that. 1:28:14.760 --> 1:28:16.800 It's not fun because we're thinking like we're like, yo, 1:28:16.880 --> 1:28:18.680 we gotta do another YouTube video where we go where 1:28:18.720 --> 1:28:20.760 we go fishing or something. And I was like, dude, 1:28:21.080 --> 1:28:23.679 I remember yellow If used to noodle and he would 1:28:24.320 --> 1:28:26.880 fucking get on his fucking knees and you'd grab the 1:28:26.920 --> 1:28:30.400 catfish out of the mud. You know what I realized, man, 1:28:30.520 --> 1:28:34.560 about myself is that, you know, a lot of that 1:28:34.720 --> 1:28:39.280 ship is just like yeah, I'll do it because I 1:28:39.320 --> 1:28:40.200 don't give a fuck. 1:28:41.479 --> 1:28:42.479 The other part is. 1:28:42.720 --> 1:28:44.720 I'm too boogie for that ship. I don't want to 1:28:44.800 --> 1:28:48.280 fucking do that ship. Like dude, Like dude, i'd do 1:28:48.439 --> 1:28:52.560 like one thing, you know, and like I'm like, man, motherfucker, 1:28:53.200 --> 1:28:55.400 I'll buy my attacks of durmy, I ain't gonna go 1:28:55.479 --> 1:28:57.479 sit in the woods in the fucking in the cold, 1:28:57.560 --> 1:28:59.840 and and like you know, there's a there's this whole 1:28:59.880 --> 1:29:02.759 thing in country, in the South, in particularly, they always 1:29:02.760 --> 1:29:04.840 want to tap in on how country you are, how 1:29:04.960 --> 1:29:05.759 you wait country. 1:29:06.240 --> 1:29:08.640 You don't do this, you don't do that. 1:29:09.920 --> 1:29:12.760 Liken't fucking don't test me, mother. I get out there 1:29:12.800 --> 1:29:16.200 and get bucked with yours, trust me, But I don't 1:29:16.280 --> 1:29:18.439 like it. I'm cool. You've also gotten to the point 1:29:18.439 --> 1:29:20.040 in life where you know you're like, hey, I've done it, 1:29:20.360 --> 1:29:24.040 thank you. I didn't make noodling a habit. Look, okay, 1:29:24.080 --> 1:29:27.599 imagine this all right, And to some people this is okay. 1:29:27.760 --> 1:29:30.160 People don't know. Noodling is catching catfish by you're going 1:29:30.200 --> 1:29:34.720 to describe it, okay, Noodling is when you let's just say, 1:29:34.800 --> 1:29:37.280 I don't know if anyone who's watching has ever seen 1:29:37.840 --> 1:29:39.800 like a boat dock. It's like a met It's like 1:29:39.840 --> 1:29:42.120 a concrete boat dock that goes into a river or 1:29:42.120 --> 1:29:45.720 a lake. Right, you've seen them. They they they that's 1:29:45.760 --> 1:29:47.599 how they get their boats into the water. You back 1:29:47.640 --> 1:29:51.200 your truck hand or whatever. Right, so they're all over 1:29:51.280 --> 1:29:55.519 the rivers and ship. So up underneath that this is 1:29:55.640 --> 1:29:57.200 just one place to noodle. There's a lot of place 1:29:57.240 --> 1:29:59.559 of noodles. But where I was taken was a boat 1:29:59.640 --> 1:30:02.800 dock or a boat ramp, boat ramp, boat ramp, My bad. 1:30:05.000 --> 1:30:08.080 So up under that boat ramp there's a gap, you 1:30:08.160 --> 1:30:10.800 know what I'm saying, where like the water and the 1:30:10.920 --> 1:30:14.360 mud and the tide and the fucking current has has 1:30:14.640 --> 1:30:17.280 built a gap. And catfish like to go and bed 1:30:17.479 --> 1:30:21.759 down in places they can hide, right, and if anything 1:30:21.880 --> 1:30:24.720 comes in that particular space, they eat it, you know, 1:30:24.920 --> 1:30:27.919 like they just like It's like it's like you imagine 1:30:27.960 --> 1:30:30.840 going into a cave and you're like, oh, you just 1:30:31.920 --> 1:30:34.120 ate up, you know, Like that's how they do it, 1:30:34.320 --> 1:30:42.040 you know. But so you use your hands as a bait. Okay, 1:30:45.160 --> 1:30:50.160 it's just your hand is just interference to its space. 1:30:50.360 --> 1:30:53.120 It's not hungry for your hand. It's just like, get 1:30:53.160 --> 1:30:55.600 the fuck out of what the fucker what is this? 1:30:55.840 --> 1:30:57.240 The thing is is to bite your hand. You pull 1:30:57.320 --> 1:31:04.559 it out, right, Okay. So Cambo is like fucking put 1:31:04.600 --> 1:31:06.760 your fucking hand in there and fucking pull him out. 1:31:07.120 --> 1:31:08.920 He'll go under water and he comes back and goes 1:31:09.000 --> 1:31:09.679 like I got one. 1:31:10.240 --> 1:31:15.080 There's one in there, and I'm like, dog for real. 1:31:15.200 --> 1:31:17.280 He's like, no, there's one in there. It's big too, 1:31:18.080 --> 1:31:21.599 get out in there. And I'm like, fuck, I'm already committed. 1:31:21.640 --> 1:31:24.080 There's cameras browling this ship. I'm like, fuck. Fuck. 1:31:24.920 --> 1:31:27.040 So I go up under the water and stick. 1:31:26.840 --> 1:31:30.280 My hand down in that hole and I feel this 1:31:30.479 --> 1:31:34.360 slimy bastard's fucking I'm like, ah, I goes. I can't 1:31:34.360 --> 1:31:35.880 do it, can't do it, can't do it. It's crazy. 1:31:36.240 --> 1:31:39.160 He's like, nah, just fucking do it. I fucking did it, man. 1:31:39.200 --> 1:31:44.400 I fucking got down in there. Let him. The sensation 1:31:44.640 --> 1:31:47.599 of an animal biting you, biting you on the hand 1:31:48.560 --> 1:31:52.960 is not a good talk. Fuck, take me to the camper, 1:31:53.760 --> 1:31:56.720 give me my fucking saint lawns. I'm fucking out of here. 1:31:56.760 --> 1:31:56.880 Bro. 1:31:57.200 --> 1:31:59.800 Let me know when it's give me my cowboy boots 1:32:00.200 --> 1:32:02.400 played when it's called nice clean truck. I ain't trying 1:32:02.400 --> 1:32:05.760 to take my ship, Motherbo out of here. I just 1:32:05.880 --> 1:32:07.000 that was a real moment for me. 1:32:07.200 --> 1:32:09.680 I've did a lot with Cambo, though, anything Cambo. 1:32:09.479 --> 1:32:11.519 Would do, I would do, such a sick following ig 1:32:12.439 --> 1:32:16.040 walk walk a swamp with him, do anything he wanted 1:32:16.080 --> 1:32:17.720 to do because I'm about it. I'm about it. If 1:32:17.720 --> 1:32:19.559 I ain't gonna fucking like didn't try to get him 1:32:19.560 --> 1:32:21.320 a TV show or wasn't there TV show being worked. 1:32:21.120 --> 1:32:22.479 On, I gave him a TV show. 1:32:22.479 --> 1:32:25.439 I got him two million dollars bro crazy, I'm two 1:32:25.479 --> 1:32:27.599 million dollars, two million dollar budget under. 1:32:27.920 --> 1:32:29.240 Yeah, we did it. 1:32:29.720 --> 1:32:30.240 It's a thing. 1:32:30.439 --> 1:32:32.080 He was making like five bands of show. 1:32:32.680 --> 1:32:39.160 He spent it all on guns and truck parts. Went 1:32:39.240 --> 1:32:45.400 Bro love you, Cambo Truth, truth, dark Truth, what a 1:32:45.439 --> 1:32:47.560 truth Dart? Truth Dart. We call him. Hit you with 1:32:47.640 --> 1:32:50.240 the truth. He knows it. He don't give a fuck. 1:32:50.280 --> 1:32:52.439 I love him. He knows what he did. I was 1:32:52.479 --> 1:32:55.439 gonna ask you. He built like a shack on the 1:32:55.560 --> 1:33:01.800 river with fucking like old cabin wood and built the fire. Dude. 1:33:01.800 --> 1:33:03.519 These fools were like he was so crazy, man. 1:33:03.600 --> 1:33:05.920 This fool was like he was like, oh man, watch this, 1:33:06.280 --> 1:33:08.439 and fucking like he would let people like shoot guns 1:33:08.479 --> 1:33:10.439 off his head with like a twenty two Like I 1:33:10.479 --> 1:33:12.439 don't remember following him, and I'd be uneasy with some 1:33:12.479 --> 1:33:14.200 of the shit. He was like shoot beer cans off 1:33:14.240 --> 1:33:16.400 of each other's heads with like twenty two's and shit, 1:33:17.640 --> 1:33:18.320 no that's missed. 1:33:18.640 --> 1:33:20.800 That boy was about it, about it. 1:33:21.240 --> 1:33:25.559 You know what I'm saying, Like Ben here, Ben Trull's. 1:33:25.280 --> 1:33:31.320 It's interesting because I feel like, you know, like you said, 1:33:31.320 --> 1:33:34.800 you're not like super paying attention to every single thing 1:33:34.840 --> 1:33:35.559 that goes on into. 1:33:35.640 --> 1:33:38.080 Not even super barely barely right, No. 1:33:38.800 --> 1:33:42.760 But I do wonder, like, you know, I feel like 1:33:42.840 --> 1:33:45.960 when you first came out, it felt like there was 1:33:46.040 --> 1:33:51.439 this scramble to be like the the white rapper right 1:33:51.760 --> 1:33:54.880 as opposed to like just being another rapper, because at 1:33:54.920 --> 1:34:00.800 that time it was like Eminem and then whoever was next, 1:34:01.240 --> 1:34:03.160 and then it was like at the time, it felt 1:34:03.200 --> 1:34:05.320 like there's only room. It's almost like the female rapper 1:34:05.360 --> 1:34:06.920 thing that happened for a while when Nikki had the 1:34:06.960 --> 1:34:09.080 crown for so long, and now there's this female But 1:34:09.240 --> 1:34:14.200 nowadays it feels like the white rapper thing has finally 1:34:14.280 --> 1:34:16.400 kind of went away in terms of like if someone's dope, 1:34:16.400 --> 1:34:16.720 they're just. 1:34:16.800 --> 1:34:19.439 Dope, like like have you noticed that? And then also 1:34:19.560 --> 1:34:21.800 on the other end of it, there's this like really dark, 1:34:21.920 --> 1:34:25.200 like weird sub genre of like white boy. Well, I 1:34:25.320 --> 1:34:27.000 just I just want to speak on female rappers for 1:34:27.080 --> 1:34:32.880 a second. Hold up, Bahamadia was amazing, Lady Bug from 1:34:32.960 --> 1:34:40.040 Diggable Planets, uh Rodga, Lady of Rage. Thanks, Gangsta boob 1:34:40.479 --> 1:34:43.280 rest in Peace, Yes, thank you so much, and fucking 1:34:43.439 --> 1:34:52.599 like Lauren Hill, Queen Latifa, Yes, thank you. Like I'm 1:34:52.680 --> 1:34:59.519 not sure Foxy Brown course, yeah, do we say that, Brad, 1:34:59.560 --> 1:35:02.599 We said it's right, right yeh boss. 1:35:04.840 --> 1:35:05.040 Ooh. 1:35:06.200 --> 1:35:07.880 I don't give a fuck, not a single fuck, not 1:35:07.920 --> 1:35:10.400 a single solitary fuck, remember that shit? Dude? Come on? 1:35:11.479 --> 1:35:15.360 Uh so, like I I'm not sure where like the 1:35:16.080 --> 1:35:25.320 culture forgot, but you know, uhr Jazzy Joyce, DJ Jazzy Joyce, 1:35:25.760 --> 1:35:27.680 you know what I mean, Like, come on, man, like 1:35:27.920 --> 1:35:30.120 they've they've. 1:35:30.000 --> 1:35:31.640 Always been present and I don't know. 1:35:32.120 --> 1:35:34.280 There was that era which was amazing, but I feel 1:35:34.320 --> 1:35:36.840 like I feel like in like the twenty tens, it 1:35:37.000 --> 1:35:40.479 felt like there was It was a little harder if 1:35:40.560 --> 1:35:43.639 you weren't Nikki to have a spot. But nowadays women 1:35:43.760 --> 1:35:46.960 run hip hop like like, I don't know how much 1:35:46.960 --> 1:35:48.720 you pay attention, but now the biggest records are all 1:35:48.760 --> 1:35:51.639 women artists and there's not like, oh, she's the chick 1:35:51.680 --> 1:35:54.400 of the crew or she's the chick. Uh you know, yeah, 1:35:54.400 --> 1:35:55.960 we gotta sign a girl. Like you know, back in 1:35:56.000 --> 1:35:57.800 the day, every crew have like a female, the first 1:35:57.840 --> 1:36:00.519 lady of whatever label you had. Now days it's like 1:36:00.680 --> 1:36:03.040 all of the women in hip hop are literally. 1:36:03.360 --> 1:36:06.720 Oh and also, I say, Blondie, you want to talk 1:36:06.720 --> 1:36:10.599 about first white rappers? Blondie the Rapture, Yeah, the Rapture, Yeah, 1:36:10.720 --> 1:36:13.120 come on, if you really want to go there, you 1:36:13.160 --> 1:36:15.400 know what I mean. Like so like I mean like 1:36:16.120 --> 1:36:21.360 like it's just like the the press. I don't it's 1:36:21.360 --> 1:36:24.840 hard for me to digest, like ignoring the presence that's 1:36:24.880 --> 1:36:26.960 always been there and then saying, oh, now it's this, 1:36:27.160 --> 1:36:29.559 now it's that. So like what as far as white 1:36:29.640 --> 1:36:33.800 rappers go, I was just raised on like real shit, 1:36:34.120 --> 1:36:37.200 you know what I mean. And for the brief time 1:36:38.200 --> 1:36:40.639 that I was a kid, and I was a fan 1:36:40.720 --> 1:36:44.639 of Vanilla Ice, right, and then I saw him get 1:36:44.720 --> 1:36:49.160 called out and then third base called him out and 1:36:50.240 --> 1:36:53.880 then and then all of a sudden, exactly search so 1:36:54.479 --> 1:36:58.320 and so I was like, oh fuck, I kind of 1:36:58.640 --> 1:37:00.519 I caught the okie doke on that one, you know 1:37:00.520 --> 1:37:03.200 what I mean. I kind of got like played, you 1:37:03.240 --> 1:37:06.719 know what I mean. Then he got on our senior 1:37:06.840 --> 1:37:09.800 hall and it was a real rap for me, you 1:37:09.880 --> 1:37:12.040 know what I mean. And but I had like white 1:37:12.080 --> 1:37:17.000 rappers around my neighborhood, like Eric mcinally the South Side hustler, 1:37:17.240 --> 1:37:19.519 you know that at the time, was like a real 1:37:19.600 --> 1:37:21.760 dope boy, a real street guy, you know what I'm saying, 1:37:21.760 --> 1:37:24.160 that had like real records on the streets, a white boy. 1:37:24.280 --> 1:37:28.840 But you know, in Antioch at that particular time, it 1:37:29.040 --> 1:37:30.880 was like there was a lot of that shit going on. 1:37:31.360 --> 1:37:34.840 You know, that white boy's rolling around my neighborhood with 1:37:35.240 --> 1:37:38.400 gold teeth and corn rolls that didn't give a fuck 1:37:38.520 --> 1:37:41.800 about being a rapper, right There wasn't about hip hop. 1:37:41.880 --> 1:37:44.000 It was just about what they did and who they were, 1:37:44.200 --> 1:37:47.439 and so they would tap in and so you really 1:37:47.520 --> 1:37:49.840 had to check out, you know, like when you're coming 1:37:49.880 --> 1:37:53.679 around a neighborhood that listened to fucking eight ball, MJG 1:37:53.880 --> 1:37:57.880 three six, Mafia, Suave House, you know, like that's kind 1:37:57.880 --> 1:38:01.919 of that runs the gamut, you know around the Tennessee 1:38:02.040 --> 1:38:07.240 Sound at the time. Uh, you really had to tap 1:38:07.320 --> 1:38:09.840 in and and and there was no one really doing it, 1:38:10.160 --> 1:38:12.800 you know. So when I was around again, like hustling flow, 1:38:14.280 --> 1:38:17.400 you know, you know, you talk about nineteen ninety seven 1:38:17.479 --> 1:38:24.439 at the Atrium, me pulling up you know, to see 1:38:24.479 --> 1:38:28.280 through six Mafia and Mystic may be crazy. It was 1:38:28.439 --> 1:38:33.000 fucking crazy. But let me tell you white boys nowhere 1:38:34.000 --> 1:38:36.320 nowhere like I, you know what I mean, Like I 1:38:36.360 --> 1:38:40.600 didn't see ninety, I didn't see any you know, not 1:38:40.720 --> 1:38:44.280 that I was looking, but it's noticeable, like okay, whatever, 1:38:44.720 --> 1:38:47.560 But you know it's like but and whom I came with, 1:38:47.960 --> 1:38:50.479 you know, or my family, you know what I mean, 1:38:50.600 --> 1:38:52.200 people that I grew up in my neighborhood with. 1:38:52.360 --> 1:38:54.599 So I was kind of cut from a different crop, 1:38:54.800 --> 1:38:54.960 you know. 1:38:55.000 --> 1:38:57.640 I started with my verses in the streets, like you know, 1:38:57.800 --> 1:38:59.960 like in the projects, like really out of box chevyes, 1:39:00.080 --> 1:39:04.800 like pulling up to like like like lodges, you know 1:39:04.840 --> 1:39:08.200 what I mean, like like like the Elks Lodge two 1:39:08.320 --> 1:39:11.360 thirty one, you know, like that type ship like and 1:39:11.600 --> 1:39:15.360 like not rap battling per se, but but just circle, 1:39:15.560 --> 1:39:18.599 like a circle of rappers, you know, back in the day, 1:39:18.840 --> 1:39:20.800 fucking like when I was coming up you and fucking 1:39:21.120 --> 1:39:23.439 you know, dis somebody you get slapped up, you know 1:39:23.479 --> 1:39:25.920 what I mean, Like just wrap your ship, you know, 1:39:26.080 --> 1:39:29.320 don't well you don't diss me, you know, like just 1:39:29.479 --> 1:39:31.720 tell your tell your thing, and it was move on. 1:39:31.920 --> 1:39:34.840 It was Cadillac shit, you know yeah, like like recipes 1:39:34.960 --> 1:39:37.640 like Pimpseason, like these country rap tunes, you know, so 1:39:37.760 --> 1:39:39.280 get in there, you know what I mean. So that's 1:39:39.320 --> 1:39:40.680 kind of the world that I grew up in. And 1:39:40.760 --> 1:39:43.320 so I was raised, you know, like come on man, 1:39:43.479 --> 1:39:47.839 like you know, having to go to Bankhead and Bankhead, 1:39:47.880 --> 1:39:53.240 Georgia and Bessemer Birmingham, Alabama, like popping the trunk on 1:39:53.280 --> 1:39:55.639 the Chevy and selling selling tapes out of my out 1:39:55.680 --> 1:39:57.959 of my box Chevy at the gas station and Bessemer 1:39:58.760 --> 1:40:02.920 like dolo, you know, just so the white boy thing 1:40:03.120 --> 1:40:08.200 was of course I was aware, but at the same time, 1:40:08.360 --> 1:40:11.000 like I felt, I always felt. 1:40:12.640 --> 1:40:16.439 I felt uh worthy, I felt worthy. 1:40:17.200 --> 1:40:20.320 I mean, you were a hip hop for real, yeah, respectfully. Yeah, yeah, 1:40:20.439 --> 1:40:22.680 you know, because I had already dug dug down in 1:40:22.760 --> 1:40:26.719 the graffiti scene, the b boys scene, the skateboarding scene. 1:40:27.280 --> 1:40:28.920 You know, this is me like as a kid, like 1:40:29.120 --> 1:40:31.960 doing the like the promotion for the Daylight Soul, and 1:40:32.080 --> 1:40:34.679 now I had had bumped down, back down it back 1:40:34.800 --> 1:40:40.200 down to Alabama after kicking it in Harlem with Pete Rock, 1:40:41.120 --> 1:40:43.680 you know, and and and like I had all this, 1:40:43.920 --> 1:40:45.639 all these things going on in the hip hop world 1:40:45.680 --> 1:40:49.519 that I carried back into Alabama because and you're. 1:40:49.439 --> 1:40:51.160 Doing and you're and you and you're I mean, the 1:40:51.240 --> 1:40:54.080 thing is is like rac aside, like if you're gonna 1:40:54.120 --> 1:40:58.599 move with integrity and like high artistic value in this game, 1:40:58.840 --> 1:41:01.680 like you know, that's why you've had the longevity you've had, 1:41:01.840 --> 1:41:03.720 Like you know, it's it's it feels like a lot 1:41:03.800 --> 1:41:05.439 of the ship that I'll see nowadays in like this 1:41:05.560 --> 1:41:09.880 weird like sub genre like underbelly of like what you 1:41:09.920 --> 1:41:12.160 would call white hip hop is like just weird. 1:41:12.280 --> 1:41:14.280 Short term pandem Is it even a thing? 1:41:14.439 --> 1:41:14.599 Though? 1:41:14.680 --> 1:41:16.599 It's a thang, bro, It's a thang for sure. White 1:41:16.680 --> 1:41:19.360 hip hop is a thing that the fucking the like 1:41:19.560 --> 1:41:22.439 there's like a little like weird little fucking pocket bro 1:41:22.560 --> 1:41:25.320 where motherfucker's is like is it like it has it been? 1:41:25.479 --> 1:41:27.479 Like has it has it? 1:41:28.880 --> 1:41:28.920 What? 1:41:29.479 --> 1:41:32.040 So there's a whay do I fall in that in 1:41:32.120 --> 1:41:33.639 your opinion? If you could say, like, oh. 1:41:33.640 --> 1:41:35.679 I think you're I think I think that you're perceived 1:41:35.720 --> 1:41:38.439 to be like bigger than that whole, like an artist, 1:41:39.320 --> 1:41:42.439 an actual art fucking like yeah, like a real artist. Yeah, 1:41:43.800 --> 1:41:45.920 so I think that's why you know, that's tough. 1:41:46.120 --> 1:41:48.040 Yeah, because I mean, lookten, dude, at the end of 1:41:48.040 --> 1:41:53.160 the day, like there there's you know, I think longevity 1:41:53.840 --> 1:41:54.679 is the key. 1:41:55.360 --> 1:41:58.000 You know, You've you've had twenty five years. 1:41:58.680 --> 1:41:59.920 If you go back to when you were on that 1:42:00.040 --> 1:42:03.320 fucking TV show, when you were contestant on that TV show, 1:42:03.360 --> 1:42:03.800 was hear me. 1:42:03.800 --> 1:42:04.720 Shock the world right now? 1:42:04.960 --> 1:42:08.960 Go ahead? I'm not really white? What are your native? Yeah, 1:42:09.200 --> 1:42:13.360 I'm part Native American, Blackfoot, and Cherokee. I'm not a 1:42:13.439 --> 1:42:15.360 full blooded white boy. The reason why I took on 1:42:15.439 --> 1:42:17.760 the whiteboard, Moniker, is because I was called a white boy. 1:42:18.800 --> 1:42:21.720 That's it. And if I'm called that and you want 1:42:21.800 --> 1:42:23.439 me to be that, then I'm gonna use it to 1:42:23.560 --> 1:42:28.559 my strength. I'm not a fucking Caucasian from the Caucasus 1:42:28.640 --> 1:42:32.439 mountains with not from fucking Norway, dog like like I 1:42:32.880 --> 1:42:35.240 grew up in the gutter of Alabama, you know, part 1:42:35.320 --> 1:42:40.400 Native American, you know, And that's what yellow Wolf is. Idiot, Like, 1:42:40.560 --> 1:42:43.320 come on, you couldn't see past that. You think I 1:42:43.400 --> 1:42:45.640 got red tattooed on my neck because I'm a red neck. 1:42:45.680 --> 1:42:48.800 I got red tattooed on my neck because that's what 1:42:49.000 --> 1:42:51.400 you said. It was ironic. It was ironic tattoo. Yeah, 1:42:51.680 --> 1:42:54.120 that's what you said. That's the If you put that 1:42:54.400 --> 1:42:57.560 stereotype on me, then I'm gonna run with it. And 1:42:57.960 --> 1:43:02.600 you know, but you know I but then it became affectionate, 1:43:03.600 --> 1:43:06.040 like oh, white boy, white boy, white boy, white boy. 1:43:07.560 --> 1:43:10.360 I fuck it. I used to get pissed. When I 1:43:10.479 --> 1:43:12.519 was a kid, was like fifteen, sixteen years old. 1:43:13.280 --> 1:43:14.360 It was fight music. 1:43:14.439 --> 1:43:16.320 If you said that to me, well, I feel like 1:43:16.400 --> 1:43:17.840 you carried like a boulder. 1:43:17.560 --> 1:43:19.800 On your shoulder against all the other white rappers for 1:43:19.920 --> 1:43:21.960 like at least a few years when you first came out, Well, 1:43:22.040 --> 1:43:24.600 it just became like if you like, if like And 1:43:24.680 --> 1:43:27.040 then Mac Miller happened, and Mac Miller was like, this 1:43:27.200 --> 1:43:27.719 is Mac Miller. 1:43:27.760 --> 1:43:29.720 He's like the coolest dude ever. Like, we love Mac. 1:43:29.800 --> 1:43:34.040 Mac was the best. Mac is the best dude. I'm 1:43:34.439 --> 1:43:36.000 rest in peace, man. I just took this down, and 1:43:36.080 --> 1:43:37.120 I gotta hate it somewhere else. 1:43:37.840 --> 1:43:38.800 I love Max so much. 1:43:38.880 --> 1:43:42.800 When Mac passed, dude, I was so hurt from that 1:43:43.720 --> 1:43:47.040 that I gave away everything I owned. That's a true story. 1:43:47.200 --> 1:43:50.519 Wait wait, explain. I gave away every article of clothing 1:43:50.600 --> 1:43:52.880 that I owned when Mac when Mac passed the next day, 1:43:53.000 --> 1:43:55.720 just because I felt like I needed to do something nice, like. 1:43:56.920 --> 1:43:57.599 Dude, that kid. 1:43:59.080 --> 1:44:03.880 I mean, no one really knew how cool he and 1:44:04.000 --> 1:44:06.760 I really were because we didn't do music, you know 1:44:06.800 --> 1:44:07.280 what I'm saying. 1:44:07.320 --> 1:44:09.240 But like that kid was like. 1:44:10.880 --> 1:44:13.839 When we first kicked it, he it was the cipher. 1:44:15.240 --> 1:44:17.200 It wasn't even a cipher. It was like a freestyle 1:44:17.360 --> 1:44:20.160 for the Double Excel cover, right, so like everybody did, 1:44:20.280 --> 1:44:23.840 everybody had their verse, right yeah, and Mac, dude, he 1:44:23.960 --> 1:44:27.200 might have been god nineteen. 1:44:27.520 --> 1:44:28.640 I mean he was young a kid. 1:44:28.760 --> 1:44:29.599 He was a kid for real. 1:44:30.439 --> 1:44:33.559 And I pulled a cigarette out and like we were 1:44:33.640 --> 1:44:37.400 chilling his lip. He's like, oh, that's what we're doing, 1:44:37.439 --> 1:44:39.160 you know. He pulled a cigarette and he bucking lit 1:44:39.200 --> 1:44:43.600 a cigarette up. Oh like and it was like a 1:44:43.920 --> 1:44:48.360 very like a like affectionate kind of like like almost 1:44:48.360 --> 1:44:50.320 an instant big brother role, you know what I mean, 1:44:50.479 --> 1:44:53.200 Like all right, dude, like let's go. 1:44:53.400 --> 1:44:57.120 You know, I see you, you know. And he went 1:44:57.200 --> 1:45:01.280 on to make incredible music, obviously amazing time music, and uh, 1:45:02.160 --> 1:45:05.840 like we've done tours together, dude, shows like fucking I've 1:45:05.880 --> 1:45:08.280 done shows with Mac and the Swiss Alps bro like 1:45:09.160 --> 1:45:11.680 like we were. That was my homie. Man. 1:45:12.040 --> 1:45:13.720 So anyway, when he passed. 1:45:15.040 --> 1:45:20.680 And I had just text him like weeks before, just 1:45:20.840 --> 1:45:23.719 tapping in, you know what I mean, And when he passed, 1:45:23.760 --> 1:45:27.080 I was like, Man, I'm just I just need to 1:45:27.600 --> 1:45:29.840 I need to purge, you know what I mean, Like 1:45:30.080 --> 1:45:34.200 I've got too much. You know, I've got too much. 1:45:34.760 --> 1:45:38.439 I have too many things, like I didn't feel worthy of. 1:45:38.600 --> 1:45:41.599 Sometimes having too much shit can bog you down mentally, 1:45:41.680 --> 1:45:43.880 too nah for real. So I just took all my 1:45:44.000 --> 1:45:46.040 ship and put it on hangers and set it outside 1:45:46.120 --> 1:45:49.200 my store and I told everybody I put it on Instagram, 1:45:49.439 --> 1:45:51.800 come get it. You come get an outfit, you know, 1:45:52.000 --> 1:45:56.439 like jewelry, hats, shoes, clothes, everything I gave away, like man, 1:45:56.840 --> 1:45:59.040 I don't know like one hundred thousand dollars worth of 1:45:59.080 --> 1:46:03.599 fucking fashion, just dumped it all and started over, started 1:46:03.680 --> 1:46:04.519 my my collection. 1:46:04.680 --> 1:46:07.800 Over Rest in Peace, Man, Rest in peace to Mac. 1:46:08.560 --> 1:46:10.120 Before we wrap, I want to go through a couple 1:46:10.160 --> 1:46:14.200 of quick hits. One would be uh one Train, which 1:46:14.240 --> 1:46:17.559 is one of the most probably the last great hip 1:46:17.600 --> 1:46:18.360 hop posse cut. 1:46:18.439 --> 1:46:25.439 We've gotten you murdered it obviously, what was when you 1:46:25.600 --> 1:46:27.360 got it? Did you know who was on it? No, 1:46:29.080 --> 1:46:33.559 here's the beat. Do what you do? So ASA sent 1:46:33.640 --> 1:46:39.400 me the track like per Rocky, Yeah, send me the 1:46:39.479 --> 1:46:40.960 track personally. 1:46:42.880 --> 1:46:44.960 Through a text, and uh. 1:46:46.880 --> 1:46:49.719 So I jumped on it like of course, like whatever, 1:46:49.920 --> 1:46:53.839 like we you know, and look, I don't do features 1:46:54.000 --> 1:46:59.320 because I I think there's some kind of win or 1:46:59.479 --> 1:47:02.720 some kind of that's that's never the thing. I really 1:47:02.840 --> 1:47:06.400 have to like the track. I like the track one two. 1:47:06.479 --> 1:47:08.760 It was my boy, you know, we we had been 1:47:08.920 --> 1:47:11.800 through Europe and doing shows together and ship like that, 1:47:13.120 --> 1:47:16.400 and so yeah, I hopped on it. I had no 1:47:16.800 --> 1:47:19.600 clue what he had planned or what was in his 1:47:19.720 --> 1:47:23.439 back pocket. Now had I known, you would have a 1:47:23.439 --> 1:47:26.800 different raisier, like if I could size up. But I'm 1:47:26.840 --> 1:47:28.680 sure everyone thought that, you know what I mean. I'm 1:47:28.680 --> 1:47:32.360 sure every maybe he did that to everyone. He probably did, 1:47:32.960 --> 1:47:39.960 and which is genius. But when I heard everyone else's verse, 1:47:40.000 --> 1:47:44.000 I was like, ooh, the is going crazy. Who do 1:47:44.080 --> 1:47:47.160 you think if you remove yourself from the equation? Who 1:47:47.200 --> 1:47:47.600 had no? 1:47:47.680 --> 1:47:47.720 No? 1:47:48.000 --> 1:47:51.760 I your favorite? Even with myself in the equation, Big 1:47:51.840 --> 1:47:58.960 Critt killed it, krit crit like come on, man, Like 1:47:59.120 --> 1:48:02.720 I was like Krik killed it period. I mean that's 1:48:02.800 --> 1:48:04.560 just my opinion. I mean, I love my verse. I 1:48:04.640 --> 1:48:08.560 think I snapped on majority and like, you know, I 1:48:09.000 --> 1:48:10.960 say that like in the sport of hip hop, you know, 1:48:11.080 --> 1:48:14.240 the competition between all MC's and shit, like, oh yeah, 1:48:14.479 --> 1:48:15.639 I got created on that one. 1:48:15.680 --> 1:48:17.479 But the truth is, like I really feel like he 1:48:17.640 --> 1:48:18.639 closed it properly. 1:48:20.000 --> 1:48:22.400 Segueing to the next thing, why did we never get 1:48:22.439 --> 1:48:24.040 country cousins between you and grit. 1:48:27.840 --> 1:48:28.200 And did it? 1:48:28.280 --> 1:48:28.439 Did it? 1:48:28.560 --> 1:48:29.960 Was there ever any songs recorded for that? 1:48:31.479 --> 1:48:35.040 Well at the height of like you know, just like 1:48:35.800 --> 1:48:36.439 at the height of. 1:48:40.360 --> 1:48:47.200 There are some like cultural and there's there's a cultural 1:48:47.280 --> 1:48:51.559 importance to a project like me and Krick coming together, right, 1:48:51.640 --> 1:48:53.920 you know, And I think that there there there's a 1:48:54.040 --> 1:48:58.680 time and a place for that. I don't make excuses 1:48:58.760 --> 1:49:03.200 about why we haven't done that project yet, and I 1:49:03.320 --> 1:49:06.840 can't predict when we might do that project because I 1:49:06.960 --> 1:49:10.240 won't put it off the books. I love crit I'm 1:49:10.280 --> 1:49:14.560 a huge, huge fan. Obviously, he was early early on 1:49:15.200 --> 1:49:17.559 and the crew, you know what I mean, like early 1:49:17.680 --> 1:49:22.720 early like Tree Sound, Tree Sound Atlanta early, and uh 1:49:23.720 --> 1:49:26.320 so I just let it happen, you know. But I 1:49:26.360 --> 1:49:28.920 think that there's like, I think that he and I 1:49:29.080 --> 1:49:33.160 both appreciate the importance of what that record means. It's 1:49:33.200 --> 1:49:38.240 not it's not just not just the collaboration. I think 1:49:38.280 --> 1:49:43.600 that there's some artistic cultural importance to that particular collaboration. 1:49:43.920 --> 1:49:47.280 Sure that means something, and I think it needs it needs. 1:49:47.280 --> 1:49:49.519 I mean because Krit was hearing trunk music was the 1:49:49.560 --> 1:49:51.880 same year. Yeah, because you could take it lightly. But 1:49:52.560 --> 1:49:55.479 the record we did, the record, the record we did 1:49:55.560 --> 1:50:00.719 do Happy Birthday hip Hop amazing as a statement record. 1:50:03.240 --> 1:50:07.160 How's your relationship these days with our psychopathic friend Ritz 1:50:07.200 --> 1:50:07.519 over there? 1:50:07.800 --> 1:50:13.519 I got his plaques over there, our psychopathic friend. I 1:50:13.840 --> 1:50:17.439 love Rich to the to the grit. Rich is my 1:50:18.040 --> 1:50:20.439 Rich is my dog. I mean, you know, hey, man, 1:50:21.520 --> 1:50:24.000 he's a maniac. Artists is going to be artists man like, 1:50:24.240 --> 1:50:26.800 and I'm a maniac too. I just have you eat 1:50:26.840 --> 1:50:30.120 your maniacs, by the way, in your own way, like 1:50:30.240 --> 1:50:34.240 my dad said. My dad said, everybody has their own 1:50:34.360 --> 1:50:37.760 brand of crazy, you know, and that's what's up. You know, 1:50:37.920 --> 1:50:42.800 Like I like my crazy. I feed it and take 1:50:42.880 --> 1:50:45.280 care of it, you know. Like I'm looking forward to 1:50:45.479 --> 1:50:48.240 like when Rich is like able to like I'm. 1:50:48.080 --> 1:50:48.960 Trying to get him to sing. 1:50:49.120 --> 1:50:51.960 keV No, he could sing. He can't sing, but it's 1:50:52.520 --> 1:50:57.240 come to Nashville and record a singer songwriter album with me. Please, 1:50:57.400 --> 1:50:59.080 I'm putting it on the record. I've told you that 1:50:59.200 --> 1:51:01.400 over the phone. Now I'm saying in the podcast. I've 1:51:01.439 --> 1:51:03.800 been trying to all the fans that are watching, Yo, 1:51:04.439 --> 1:51:06.200 I don't want to hear you rap no more. I 1:51:06.320 --> 1:51:08.880 want to hear some singing. BRIT's time singing, Buddy, time 1:51:08.920 --> 1:51:11.479 to sing with a little bit of rapping. And I 1:51:11.560 --> 1:51:14.240 want him to do like a He's a great singer, 1:51:15.000 --> 1:51:16.639 he is. He could sing his ass off. He's always 1:51:16.640 --> 1:51:19.600 been singing as he could play the guitar like a 1:51:19.640 --> 1:51:23.960 motherfucker too. By the way, Yeah, yeah, like crazy, let's 1:51:24.080 --> 1:51:26.880 let's go. Let's do a fucking secret songwriter album man 1:51:27.000 --> 1:51:29.040 like do something different, No, for. 1:51:29.080 --> 1:51:33.479 Sure, shout out to ritz Man Albums coming out in May. 1:51:34.760 --> 1:51:36.000 How many videos are in the can? 1:51:36.600 --> 1:51:38.920 Five? I already got five? Okay? Is that? Are you 1:51:38.960 --> 1:51:42.639 gonna keep shooting if it feels right or we'll see 1:51:42.680 --> 1:51:46.040 what like, We're gonna shoot five videos right and just 1:51:46.240 --> 1:51:48.920 from the from the pat just learning releases and ship 1:51:49.000 --> 1:51:51.400 like I want to like, I want to let the 1:51:51.479 --> 1:51:55.599 fans tell us, like, Hey, if this song goes fucking 1:51:55.680 --> 1:51:58.160 crazy takes off, shoot a video to this, Like. 1:51:58.280 --> 1:52:00.240 Yeah, just let us know, Like, let us know what 1:52:00.320 --> 1:52:01.000 you want to see. 1:52:01.240 --> 1:52:04.479 We've picked our personal faves and what we thought led 1:52:05.040 --> 1:52:07.800 led you into a war story the best way. But 1:52:08.160 --> 1:52:11.400 after that, I really do want to listen and and 1:52:12.280 --> 1:52:15.080 basically like kind of take a poll, you know, like 1:52:15.200 --> 1:52:18.000 what do you want to see next? Because I've fucked 1:52:18.080 --> 1:52:20.559 up so many times by not shooting videos to songs 1:52:20.600 --> 1:52:23.479 that I should have. Catfish Billy, Oh such a good Hey, 1:52:23.760 --> 1:52:27.120 Tennessee love no video. You know, it's funny. There's a 1:52:27.160 --> 1:52:28.920 lot of classics with no Videofish Billy. 1:52:28.960 --> 1:52:31.360 I just think of like this fucking boat floating with 1:52:31.439 --> 1:52:34.920 all your belongings in like a dark like I think 1:52:34.960 --> 1:52:36.559 of like a fucking lantern, you know what I mean. 1:52:36.680 --> 1:52:39.960 Like that's probably the best mash pit song. Fucking dude, 1:52:39.960 --> 1:52:41.880 that song makes me want to fuck motherfucker's up. 1:52:41.920 --> 1:52:42.000 Bro. 1:52:42.200 --> 1:52:44.840 That's like my workout joint, bro. Like Halffish Billy. And 1:52:44.880 --> 1:52:47.600 when you perform that shit live violence. 1:52:47.280 --> 1:52:56.000 Dude, fucking sick Yes, Savagery Savagery tour coming unless uh nah, listen, man, maybe. 1:52:55.840 --> 1:53:01.719 Got clever back. Oh Doodle is back? 1:53:02.000 --> 1:53:08.080 All right? I did on the fucking new record is crazy, dude, 1:53:08.120 --> 1:53:11.280 when I let are you pressed for time? No? 1:53:11.439 --> 1:53:13.360 I mean no ever find we can keep going. Fuck 1:53:13.400 --> 1:53:16.400 off that Mexican Ot might walk in here, But that's fine. 1:53:17.720 --> 1:53:21.679 Mexican Ot is coming. That's my dog, man. 1:53:21.760 --> 1:53:25.400 What's up? I'm you guys, dude. I fucking love that guy. 1:53:25.520 --> 1:53:27.160 He told me to keep you late. He was like, 1:53:27.920 --> 1:53:29.880 if I'm on a four, make sure he stays. I 1:53:29.960 --> 1:53:33.639 want to say hi to him. Man, I'm not leaving, good, good, 1:53:33.800 --> 1:53:34.599 I'm not leaving. 1:53:34.800 --> 1:53:36.920 I have to meet this guy in person. I'm fucking 1:53:37.000 --> 1:53:38.160 I'm a huge fan of. 1:53:39.000 --> 1:53:43.280 To meet him. Okay, so we got time, go ahead. 1:53:45.640 --> 1:53:50.320 So I'm so psyched to meet Mexican Ot. Man, he's sick. 1:53:50.439 --> 1:53:53.160 I'm distracted by the you meet his dad to his 1:53:53.240 --> 1:53:55.479 dad's fucking great, dude, we were at the talk, we 1:53:55.560 --> 1:53:57.120 were at the taco truck last night and his dad 1:53:57.240 --> 1:54:00.200 knocks some fucking dude the fuck out there is this 1:54:00.600 --> 1:54:03.599 drunk maniac. He was chugging Mickey's outside of the Taco 1:54:03.640 --> 1:54:06.640 truck and he kept doing then the Hitler salute. 1:54:07.840 --> 1:54:10.679 And fucking he was talking to nitler Ler. 1:54:12.760 --> 1:54:17.280 And Chuck warned him like twenty times, even gave him 1:54:17.280 --> 1:54:19.599 half of his food to go away, and the dude 1:54:19.680 --> 1:54:22.400 stepped to him one more time and he fucking slapped him, 1:54:23.439 --> 1:54:26.160 and we're like, all right, well it's time to walk off. 1:54:27.479 --> 1:54:29.880 Go fuck with Dad's strength, man, No, his dad's a 1:54:29.920 --> 1:54:33.600 fucking rock. Dad's strength is this dude is like he 1:54:33.720 --> 1:54:36.080 looks like the rock, Like he looks like a professional. 1:54:35.760 --> 1:54:39.240 Rest But even if he wasn't, you don't withd no 1:54:39.360 --> 1:54:42.360 for sure strength And he's got like a certain other 1:54:42.440 --> 1:54:44.080 type of strength starts with arm. 1:54:44.280 --> 1:54:54.120 Can't say it anymore, Royd's strength. Oh is that the 1:54:54.440 --> 1:55:03.200 R word? It could be? You can't say anymore. I 1:55:03.280 --> 1:55:04.400 don't we just did? 1:55:04.680 --> 1:55:07.400 Have I been that checked out? I think it's the 1:55:07.440 --> 1:55:08.320 word I'd like back. 1:55:09.160 --> 1:55:12.480 I don't mind. I don't mind it. How about this one? 1:55:12.600 --> 1:55:14.200 I don't know if it's up to whether we find it. 1:55:14.400 --> 1:55:15.080 How about this one? 1:55:17.640 --> 1:55:23.600 You fucking that fool's got franks? Let me not be insensitive. 1:55:24.000 --> 1:55:28.640 Sure I'm not, I'm not. Okay, listen whatever, dude, it's like, 1:55:29.160 --> 1:55:33.040 save it canceled, card been canceled? How about that? Uh? 1:55:34.040 --> 1:55:36.760 Where are we going with this, I said, Clevers back 1:55:36.800 --> 1:55:40.240 in the due said, you don't even know. You don't 1:55:40.240 --> 1:55:46.400 even know. I got the crazy story for you. Okay, look, yo, 1:55:46.520 --> 1:55:48.720 when I talk to my friends, I'm talking to my friends. 1:55:49.080 --> 1:55:49.640 You know what I'm saying. 1:55:49.840 --> 1:55:51.840 I know we're filming and ship's going on, but I 1:55:51.840 --> 1:55:54.080 don't like whatever. It's like we'll be kicking it with pain. 1:55:54.160 --> 1:56:00.000 We're just doing whatever. Okay, So we land in Los Angeles. 1:56:00.160 --> 1:56:05.240 Is from Atlanta. Yeah, we're going to New Zealand. This 1:56:05.320 --> 1:56:10.200 fool gets arrested clever, Yeah, police are waiting by the plane. 1:56:11.280 --> 1:56:14.000 Now I have a whole This is me going down 1:56:14.080 --> 1:56:16.280 to do the festival in New Zealand. 1:56:17.920 --> 1:56:22.320 And not sure what happened, but there was a confrontation 1:56:22.880 --> 1:56:26.520 with a passenger on the way and that particular passenger 1:56:28.120 --> 1:56:36.520 was a lawyer. So this is a lawyer called L A. P. D. 1:56:37.760 --> 1:56:42.080 And they they drag my boy out, you know what 1:56:42.120 --> 1:56:44.800 I'm saying, Like, put him in a wheelchair, push him 1:56:44.800 --> 1:56:48.000 out the airport, like Hannibal Lecter. I'm on the way to. 1:56:48.040 --> 1:56:48.800 Fucking New Zealand. 1:56:48.800 --> 1:56:51.160 I got no DJ, and I'm like, I like, Zilla, 1:56:52.000 --> 1:56:54.720 looks like you're DJ and doll you better fucking laptop, 1:56:54.800 --> 1:56:58.120 that shit fucking press play one one finger Jones, hit Intern, 1:56:58.320 --> 1:57:02.120 hit Intern, hit space bar Innerarenter. I've had to do 1:57:02.200 --> 1:57:07.360 it before warped tour, So like fucking lost my DJ. 1:57:08.080 --> 1:57:09.840 Didn't know what the fuck was gonna happen, you know 1:57:09.880 --> 1:57:13.000 what I'm saying. Like I thought he was gone, like forever, 1:57:13.160 --> 1:57:15.960 you know what I'm saying, Not forever. 1:57:16.120 --> 1:57:18.280 I thought I thought he was gone. I was like, dude, 1:57:18.280 --> 1:57:18.560 I can't. 1:57:18.760 --> 1:57:20.400 I'm never gonna I'm not gonna see him in New 1:57:20.480 --> 1:57:23.680 Zealand for sure. For sure, Delta xes him out of 1:57:23.720 --> 1:57:27.120 the whole situation. I mean they're like, get him off 1:57:27.160 --> 1:57:33.800 the property type ship. Uh, my friend Stefan Janowski, this 1:57:34.080 --> 1:57:35.560 guy he's got his own Nike. 1:57:36.200 --> 1:57:42.280 Yeah, fucking pro lifer. He's the best I cost that fire. 1:57:42.320 --> 1:57:47.600 I'm like, please pull up Stefan and Jessica love y'all, 1:57:48.120 --> 1:57:52.760 please pull up and get my friend. And he's he 1:57:52.800 --> 1:57:54.440 needs to ride an airport or he's going he needs 1:57:54.480 --> 1:57:56.920 to ride to the hotel. He's going to jail. Police 1:57:56.920 --> 1:57:58.440 were like, yo, since somebody get him whor he's going 1:57:58.480 --> 1:58:02.120 to jail, So like, ah, we got you, Like, dude, 1:58:02.160 --> 1:58:05.120 this New Year's night. They're like chilling out the crib 1:58:05.160 --> 1:58:07.120 and they and they go get him like real friends, 1:58:07.240 --> 1:58:10.000 like real friends, go get them taken to the hotel. 1:58:10.440 --> 1:58:11.640 I'm sure he woke up the next. 1:58:11.520 --> 1:58:13.520 He was fucking hammered, hammered. 1:58:13.960 --> 1:58:15.480 He was hammered before we let that land. 1:58:15.680 --> 1:58:19.360 Uh, Nashville. We're drinking on the plane. 1:58:19.680 --> 1:58:21.760 Oh bro, Delta lounge. 1:58:22.120 --> 1:58:22.880 The plane drinking. 1:58:23.000 --> 1:58:25.000 It hits different, especially when you land and go to 1:58:25.080 --> 1:58:28.120 stand up and you're like, oh fuck. 1:58:29.880 --> 1:58:34.840 But anyway, we uh we we got him back. We 1:58:34.960 --> 1:58:36.080 flew him out coach. 1:58:38.400 --> 1:58:41.760 So when he made it, we flew coach. He made it. 1:58:41.960 --> 1:58:44.320 We flew coach to New Zealand. 1:58:44.440 --> 1:58:47.760 Dude, Okay, look what is that is that like New Zealand? 1:58:48.040 --> 1:58:52.000 No full thirty six hours It took me to get 1:58:52.120 --> 1:58:57.280 from Nashville to New Zealand. All right, so god, it's 1:58:58.280 --> 1:59:04.880 torture like coach Middlese that's, oh my god, for a 1:59:04.960 --> 1:59:09.440 day and a half. Fun. But like he he he 1:59:09.560 --> 1:59:11.000 ended up making it, you know what I'm saying, And 1:59:11.120 --> 1:59:15.560 we pulled off the shows and ship. But yeah, like arrested, 1:59:16.040 --> 1:59:19.360 arrested upon arrival. Now he's he's moving back to Nashville. 1:59:19.400 --> 1:59:22.000 He actually moved back to Nashville, and he's from Atlanta. 1:59:22.880 --> 1:59:28.080 Where's he from? Atlanta? Georgia. Man Atlanta's finest bro one 1:59:28.120 --> 1:59:31.600 of the greatest DJs. Man no scratch DJ, and I 1:59:31.760 --> 1:59:36.160 put that, I'll put that on everything for the record. 1:59:36.480 --> 1:59:38.200 And you've had some great DJs. You had Chris Curran, 1:59:38.240 --> 1:59:39.880 you had the what was fucking your o G DJ? 1:59:40.000 --> 1:59:41.240 The guy who was Latin was not for. 1:59:41.320 --> 1:59:44.320 The record, And this is like, this is just healthy competition. 1:59:44.480 --> 1:59:48.520 Like any dj MC combo that wants to battle, I'm 1:59:48.600 --> 1:59:52.920 up at the fire, I'm ready, We're ready. I'd sit 1:59:53.040 --> 1:59:56.160 well any person on the planet. You go get your 1:59:56.240 --> 2:00:00.320 best MC and your best DJ. And I've tried to 2:00:00.360 --> 2:00:03.200 do this before and nobody stepped up. Maybe somebody will. 2:00:03.720 --> 2:00:07.120 I want to see it, and I will gracefully bow out. 2:00:07.240 --> 2:00:09.360 If you come with a better set, you're not going 2:00:09.440 --> 2:00:14.240 to It's curtains there. It is. Last thing? Did you 2:00:14.320 --> 2:00:19.040 and Royce ever patch things up? I love Royce? Okay, 2:00:19.320 --> 2:00:24.040 I haven't spoken to him since that incident happened, but 2:00:25.120 --> 2:00:28.000 that's my dude, man, Like I have I really I 2:00:28.080 --> 2:00:31.600 don't hold any I don't harbor any bad feelings about Royce. 2:00:32.360 --> 2:00:34.520 You know what I mean. I haven't spoken to him, 2:00:34.560 --> 2:00:38.880 like I said, since that that time. But at the 2:00:39.000 --> 2:00:40.880 end of the day, we did a lot of great 2:00:40.960 --> 2:00:45.400 things together. You know what I'm saying, Like I mean 2:00:46.000 --> 2:00:48.920 your grace to XXL with him. Yeah, you know what 2:00:48.920 --> 2:00:51.080 I mean, Like a lot of a lot of amazing 2:00:51.200 --> 2:00:53.400 moments happened it. 2:00:54.000 --> 2:00:55.960 Yeah with my boy, you know what I meaning, like 2:00:56.120 --> 2:00:58.280 and it's it's all good for me. 2:00:58.840 --> 2:00:59.400 It's all good. 2:00:59.640 --> 2:01:01.720 That's good and you know that that's it just is 2:01:01.800 --> 2:01:02.440 what it is, Like. 2:01:02.560 --> 2:01:07.720 What DJ Premiere, you know, DJ Premiere, Royce me, come on, 2:01:07.800 --> 2:01:09.800 there's a lot of there's a lot of moments Royce 2:01:09.880 --> 2:01:14.960 and Ritz, you know, like Royce, Marshall, myself, the fucking Gang, 2:01:15.040 --> 2:01:17.680 you know, like like there was there's there's history there 2:01:17.800 --> 2:01:22.040 that like I can't, I can't like just make disappear. 2:01:23.120 --> 2:01:26.600 And you know what I mean, like to put some. 2:01:28.680 --> 2:01:32.280 You know, discrepancy or a disagreement or like whatever it is. 2:01:32.520 --> 2:01:32.720 You know. 2:01:34.240 --> 2:01:37.000 Whatever it's not it's not to me. It's water under 2:01:37.000 --> 2:01:37.360 the bridge. 2:01:37.480 --> 2:01:39.840 Good. I thought of another random thing. 2:01:40.200 --> 2:01:43.440 When you did Worldwide Choppers with Tech, did you know 2:01:43.560 --> 2:01:45.600 there was gonna be people wrapping in like Turkish and 2:01:45.720 --> 2:01:48.720 fucking all kinds of fucking wild ass languages on that ship. 2:01:49.320 --> 2:01:53.600 Speaking to Posse Records, that shit went platinum. There's a 2:01:53.680 --> 2:01:54.640 Turkish verse. 2:01:54.880 --> 2:02:03.800 Yeah, the beginning. There's a dude who's like that, no way, Yeah, 2:02:04.000 --> 2:02:04.680 it's platinum. 2:02:05.440 --> 2:02:06.360 You're on it. It's platin. 2:02:06.680 --> 2:02:09.360 I never even I never, I never heard it. 2:02:09.480 --> 2:02:10.840 I only recorded my verse. 2:02:11.040 --> 2:02:12.160 I never even listened to it. 2:02:12.240 --> 2:02:16.000 It's like you it's him, No I know, I'm it's 2:02:16.040 --> 2:02:18.960 bust rhynd, twist buzz around like and then it's a 2:02:19.040 --> 2:02:22.080 bunch of other dudes to expect bro, I fucking like, 2:02:22.200 --> 2:02:24.760 just fucking you send me some ship. Sometimes I'm like 2:02:26.800 --> 2:02:29.280 and then I go, fucking I'm out. Yeah, I don't like, 2:02:29.880 --> 2:02:31.520 you need to get a plaque sent to you. You're 2:02:31.560 --> 2:02:35.720 on the song. It's placked. Let me tell you. One 2:02:35.720 --> 2:02:39.560 of my biggest regrets what is that with with Tech nine? 2:02:40.240 --> 2:02:44.480 I got a few, but musically one of them is 2:02:46.320 --> 2:02:49.680 Tech nine sent me a record and he said, he said, hey, 2:02:49.840 --> 2:02:53.200 I won't meet you and Kendrick on this song. Yes, 2:02:53.280 --> 2:02:58.440 it's called Fragile. And I was like, I listened to 2:02:58.600 --> 2:03:04.080 it and I was like, man, I don't know if 2:03:04.120 --> 2:03:08.440 I can talk about being fragile, because I don't feel 2:03:08.760 --> 2:03:12.120 genuinely fragile, and I don't know if I am. 2:03:12.640 --> 2:03:17.320 Maybe I am, but I at the time, I was like, I. 2:03:19.200 --> 2:03:23.880 Could not connect with the concept of like admitting that 2:03:24.040 --> 2:03:27.040 I have a problem with someone not liking my music, 2:03:27.960 --> 2:03:29.080 you know what I mean? Because it was really for 2:03:29.120 --> 2:03:30.040 people I haven't heard the record. 2:03:30.080 --> 2:03:33.080 It was really like an ode to negative journalistic opinions 2:03:33.120 --> 2:03:36.840 on our critics, critics, like a fuck you to critics, essentially. 2:03:37.000 --> 2:03:43.640 Exactly, Man, do I wish I would have just you know, 2:03:43.920 --> 2:03:47.400 I actually laid a verse I did. I recorded a 2:03:47.480 --> 2:03:51.280 verse and never sent it. So I have a verse 2:03:51.880 --> 2:03:55.880 in my in my hard drive on Fragile with with 2:03:56.120 --> 2:04:00.400 Kendrick and and Tech nine, but I never returned to 2:04:00.480 --> 2:04:03.760 them that had been crazy and look in these and 2:04:03.840 --> 2:04:07.400 these and then like you know, fast forward Saturday Night Live. 2:04:11.680 --> 2:04:15.200 Hey, listen to you kids, don't. 2:04:17.360 --> 2:04:17.840 Just do it. 2:04:18.160 --> 2:04:18.960 Don't overthink it. 2:04:19.120 --> 2:04:22.880 No, don't overthink it. Fucking do it. We got keV 2:04:22.920 --> 2:04:23.600 over here. Look at me. 2:04:24.440 --> 2:04:26.240 I'm making sure Ot is not outside. He's not here yet. 2:04:26.240 --> 2:04:28.560 He's running late for the usual. So we're fine, okay, man, 2:04:28.760 --> 2:04:31.600 just making We're gonna do it a nice hang. We're 2:04:31.600 --> 2:04:33.200 gonna go hang. You guys can do a song tonight. 2:04:33.280 --> 2:04:34.160 Let's make a song. Happen. 2:04:34.200 --> 2:04:36.680 Listen, listen to you kids, do not. 2:04:38.640 --> 2:04:39.320 Don't overthink. 2:04:40.560 --> 2:04:43.120 Another one is uh run the Jewels? 2:04:43.960 --> 2:04:45.400 What do you mean? Oh bro? 2:04:48.520 --> 2:04:48.640 Uh? 2:04:49.360 --> 2:04:51.280 LP sent me a song when I was making Trump 2:04:51.360 --> 2:04:57.120 Music three, Trump Music three. Yeah, and so did Ritz 2:04:57.680 --> 2:05:02.200 And I was so I was so wrapped out, you 2:05:02.240 --> 2:05:05.160 know what I'm saying. I was like so versed to death. 2:05:05.600 --> 2:05:08.520 Right after making that, I was like, I'm like tapped. 2:05:08.560 --> 2:05:11.480 I've tapped right everything I have to offer as an 2:05:11.560 --> 2:05:16.880 MC to do this, Like, I don't got it. Man, 2:05:17.000 --> 2:05:19.560 missed the opportunity to be on the Run the Jewels record, 2:05:19.880 --> 2:05:25.000 like like ship that, Like that's an opportunity that's always open. 2:05:25.040 --> 2:05:29.560 I'm sure, though, Well, you know I've I've kicked it. 2:05:29.800 --> 2:05:32.440 I've kicked it with LP quite a bit. You No, Obviously, 2:05:32.720 --> 2:05:35.440 Mike's my fucking dog, you know, And I love LP 2:05:35.640 --> 2:05:37.440 and I've I've spent some time with LP in New 2:05:37.520 --> 2:05:39.480 York and we've had moments. 2:05:39.520 --> 2:05:39.680 You know. 2:05:39.960 --> 2:05:42.560 I was around for some of their earliest sessions at 2:05:42.600 --> 2:05:44.320 Tree Sound again, like when they were probably working on 2:05:44.400 --> 2:05:47.760 rap music. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like before it happens the 2:05:47.800 --> 2:05:53.320 thing thing. Yeah, it had been crazy. You want one 2:05:53.360 --> 2:05:56.520 of them fucking bro them fucking Run the Jewels, fucking albums, 2:05:56.560 --> 2:06:01.280 all four fucking crazy amazing. I hate myself for not 2:06:01.440 --> 2:06:01.760 doing that. 2:06:03.080 --> 2:06:05.040 I hate but but at the same time, like I 2:06:05.200 --> 2:06:05.600 just wasn't. 2:06:05.800 --> 2:06:05.920 Yo. 2:06:06.120 --> 2:06:07.680 So Ritz is like, Yo, give me a rat verse, 2:06:07.720 --> 2:06:09.760 give me a rat verse. This is on this album 2:06:09.800 --> 2:06:13.200 that he's coming out with, uh with Tech, okay, right, 2:06:13.800 --> 2:06:15.360 and I'm like, oh, you talking about like a couple 2:06:15.440 --> 2:06:19.240 of albums, like when he was on he was on Strange. Yeah, 2:06:19.920 --> 2:06:25.200 I gave him the worst verse his first album, one 2:06:25.240 --> 2:06:27.120 of my careers, Like, like, you mean the song you 2:06:27.160 --> 2:06:30.360 did with him on your on his first Soul Late terrible. Yeah, 2:06:30.960 --> 2:06:34.240 I remember he hated No, he was like, dude, fucking 2:06:34.760 --> 2:06:38.440 and then Wolf gives me this fucking throwaway verse and 2:06:38.560 --> 2:06:41.080 it made the album because of course his first album 2:06:41.160 --> 2:06:42.120 needs to have you on it. 2:06:42.280 --> 2:06:44.840 He's like, he's like, he's like, you have to be 2:06:45.160 --> 2:06:45.520 on this. 2:06:45.920 --> 2:06:48.480 I said, Ritz, no, I don't, mane he said, no, 2:06:48.600 --> 2:06:51.080 you have to. And I was like, all right, dude, 2:06:52.200 --> 2:06:58.400 here you go. Man, somebody saw Tech. He was like, uh, Tech, 2:06:58.440 --> 2:07:02.760 we'll talk about doing another record. I say, man, I'm 2:07:02.800 --> 2:07:04.640 not gonna be I'm not gonna give you one of 2:07:04.720 --> 2:07:08.240 the races, one of the more verses, and he was like, 2:07:08.360 --> 2:07:13.160 he was like, please, please don't, please don't. Oh my god, 2:07:13.320 --> 2:07:14.800 bro crazy man. 2:07:15.240 --> 2:07:17.400 Yeah, man, hey, dude, well, look the new album is 2:07:17.480 --> 2:07:19.440 coming out, and do we have an exact May date? 2:07:23.760 --> 2:07:28.080 May twelve? Oh, May twelve, May twelve, you heard it first. 2:07:28.640 --> 2:07:33.080 May Twelve's the double disc? Ish? Definitely double vinyl, maybe 2:07:33.120 --> 2:07:34.920 even four vinyls. I feel like this might be like 2:07:35.000 --> 2:07:38.080 a well no, I think it's like twenty it's like 2:07:38.160 --> 2:07:40.520 twenty four twenty six songs. So how many vinyls does 2:07:40.520 --> 2:07:44.840 that take? At least three? That feels like a triple 2:07:45.000 --> 2:07:50.160 A triple rich? How many vinyls we're doing? Six? Rich 2:07:50.200 --> 2:07:54.400 has six six vinyls six two four six. Yeah, it's 2:07:54.440 --> 2:07:57.520 gonna be a six. It gonna be eight vinyl probably. 2:07:57.520 --> 2:07:59.680 I don't know, fucking know, man, I do know that, 2:07:59.800 --> 2:08:01.840 like I want like a you know, you got like 2:08:02.200 --> 2:08:04.000 eight songs on one side, eight songs on the other. Right, 2:08:04.320 --> 2:08:07.480 How long they are all? That part? Yeah? That part? 2:08:07.720 --> 2:08:09.280 So it depends if you got like a fucking six 2:08:09.400 --> 2:08:12.440 minute joint. You know which you probably do? I do 2:08:12.560 --> 2:08:15.680 got one? Probably do? Would you do another? Sometimes? Why? 2:08:15.960 --> 2:08:18.640 Because I guess Fuck yeah, I gotta do another one. 2:08:18.680 --> 2:08:20.880 I have to man yeah to the ship's do good. 2:08:21.480 --> 2:08:23.600 I'm just gonna this time. I'm just gonna record it 2:08:23.600 --> 2:08:26.560 and say keep sucking. I'm not doing the whole fucking 2:08:26.600 --> 2:08:34.480 run around like May seventeenth is the album May seventeenth, 2:08:36.280 --> 2:08:42.520 Get it right, May seventeenth, May seventeenth war story comes out? Damn, Hey, yo, 2:08:42.760 --> 2:08:46.320 you're gonna come out to my podcast? Are you? Are 2:08:46.360 --> 2:08:49.760 you gonna do a podcast? Yeah? Fuck yeah? You know 2:08:49.760 --> 2:08:52.520 what you gotta do now? That Ritz I think is singleish. 2:08:53.120 --> 2:08:55.120 You gotta have Rits on your podcast so he could 2:08:55.160 --> 2:09:01.040 tell the nastiest stories in hip hop unapologetically. Now we 2:09:01.120 --> 2:09:03.040 ain't even got time for me to go into the 2:09:03.080 --> 2:09:04.680 stories I know about the bus troll. 2:09:07.240 --> 2:09:14.760 Wait, wait, hey, riddle me, this Canadian missed the bus troll. 2:09:16.120 --> 2:09:17.680 You know Rich is the bus troll? 2:09:17.800 --> 2:09:20.880 Bro was Rich? Was Rich? Why I hit on it 2:09:21.000 --> 2:09:23.320 in that fucking garbage verse that I gave for for 2:09:24.800 --> 2:09:27.000 I'm glad you admitted it. He's gonna be so happy 2:09:27.040 --> 2:09:27.560 you admitted it. 2:09:28.280 --> 2:09:29.240 He fucking knows. 2:09:29.760 --> 2:09:31.680 I was like, you know, Ritz feels some type of way. 2:09:31.680 --> 2:09:33.760 You guys never did a project together. You know it's 2:09:33.840 --> 2:09:36.760 it's it's because fans always bother him. He's like, yo, man, 2:09:37.680 --> 2:09:42.080 we could have gave the fans that the ogs American fans. 2:09:42.240 --> 2:09:44.400 I don't want to rap with Ritz man, that's the truth, man, 2:09:44.520 --> 2:09:46.160 Like I want to rap. Man, Let's let's do some 2:09:46.280 --> 2:09:50.360 other ship. Man, I'm singing. Yeah, it's rapping is too easy, man, Yeah, 2:09:50.680 --> 2:09:52.840 let's do some ship. We put some rap ship in there, 2:09:52.880 --> 2:09:54.240 but I want to do some mo Was it the 2:09:54.360 --> 2:09:58.160 tour with you uh, in which his nose blew up red? 2:10:00.840 --> 2:10:05.320 Wasn't that your guys's tour? He had the coke nose? 2:10:05.360 --> 2:10:05.480 Bro. 2:10:07.880 --> 2:10:13.760 Yeah, he's gonna love this interview. He's gotta love this. 2:10:15.520 --> 2:10:17.040 You see if I get him answer a facet had 2:10:17.080 --> 2:10:25.480 this piece of ship. Oh my god, dude, he showed 2:10:25.520 --> 2:10:30.040 me pictures of that ship. You had to let the 2:10:30.160 --> 2:10:37.000 pop forgot about the cocos. Oh my bro, this will 2:10:37.080 --> 2:10:39.360 text me at three in the morning the night before last. 2:10:39.640 --> 2:10:45.120 Oh oh, let's let's double team, let's tag team and 2:10:45.240 --> 2:10:53.240 full home. Oh right now, cos please God bless America, 2:10:53.320 --> 2:10:55.400 Please phone Coke. 2:10:55.560 --> 2:10:59.960 Gang bangon pause through face time, full Home, full Home. 2:11:00.000 --> 2:11:03.200 Oh yeah, he'd like it, full sin. He's had worse. 2:11:04.640 --> 2:11:08.320 He's the grenade jumper. You pussy answer the phone, Coke 2:11:08.440 --> 2:11:10.960 knows look at us. You're on the fucking you're on 2:11:11.040 --> 2:11:16.800 the podcast, You fucking pussy. Yeah, you pussy like man, 2:11:16.880 --> 2:11:22.160 he's probably in the basement somewhere crying, Hey, why are 2:11:22.240 --> 2:11:24.120 we calling you both? And you're not answering your piece 2:11:24.160 --> 2:11:27.280 of ship? Yeah, get your ship together, man, know. Fucking 2:11:27.760 --> 2:11:32.760 bus troll. Yeah, it's probably fucking a midget on me. 2:11:33.520 --> 2:11:35.360 You know I caught it the bus troll, because you 2:11:35.400 --> 2:11:39.240 would get hammered, dog hammered in the bus, and he. 2:11:39.240 --> 2:11:39.640 Would just. 2:11:41.600 --> 2:11:47.400 We have understand some Jeremy Scott Adidas swaying back, like 2:11:48.160 --> 2:11:53.640 if you imagine Rinson is under his hair, I can 2:11:53.680 --> 2:11:58.080 imagine it, Yo, like blocking the door with a fucking 2:11:58.200 --> 2:11:59.240 plastic bottle of. 2:11:59.360 --> 2:12:01.120 Canadian bro How about this. 2:12:01.600 --> 2:12:03.760 The only time Ritz ever got really mad at me 2:12:04.280 --> 2:12:07.320 was I was blacked out and I took his beanie 2:12:07.400 --> 2:12:09.879 off and he oh. 2:12:11.760 --> 2:12:14.560 Oh, I touched the beanie. It was a fucking problem. Hey, 2:12:14.600 --> 2:12:18.240 well this is him without a beanie, Like this might 2:12:18.320 --> 2:12:20.120 be that Mexico toot's see you guys here. 2:12:21.840 --> 2:12:25.640 No Spotify? 2:12:26.400 --> 2:12:29.200 Okay, so what's their et a idea? 2:12:29.920 --> 2:12:30.080 Now? 2:12:32.160 --> 2:12:34.840 All right, let me cause that I'll find out. Are 2:12:34.880 --> 2:12:37.480 you I'm in here, I'm in here, come in you 2:12:37.600 --> 2:12:42.160 fuck him in the middle of an interview. There's a 2:12:42.200 --> 2:12:44.600 winning gate. It's unlocked. Push it through, you got it? Goodbye? 2:12:45.320 --> 2:12:45.440 Yo. 2:12:45.680 --> 2:12:49.280 So look so like he would like why we called 2:12:49.360 --> 2:12:50.240 him bus troll? 2:12:51.040 --> 2:12:54.280 It is because he was like standing in the hallway, 2:12:54.400 --> 2:12:58.400 bro and like blocking the antl to the to the 2:12:58.520 --> 2:13:05.280 bucks and no, with a bottle of Canadian miss like 2:13:05.360 --> 2:13:07.400 a fucking leprechaun or some ship. 2:13:08.000 --> 2:13:12.480 And so we started saying, riddle me this Canadian miss, 2:13:15.520 --> 2:13:17.360 like you had to answer a riddle to get to 2:13:17.440 --> 2:13:21.600 your bunk. So anyway, we shout out to Ritz. He's 2:13:21.640 --> 2:13:22.920 a legend, great guy. I love him. 2:13:23.640 --> 2:13:23.920 Whatever. 2:13:24.240 --> 2:13:27.760 Listen, man, I'm just here having fun. That was funny. 2:13:28.760 --> 2:13:32.080 It's funny. It is because I'm crying. You know who 2:13:32.160 --> 2:13:35.600 was gnarly? Was your old fucking road manager the night 2:13:35.640 --> 2:13:38.200 I told you about Josh Spice. No, no, no, Jos's 2:13:38.240 --> 2:13:40.520 cool shots o G. I'm talking about the fucking violent 2:13:40.640 --> 2:13:48.120 motherfucker Brooklyn. Oh Brooklyn. He was crazy nuts. So I'm 2:13:48.200 --> 2:13:51.200 tripping out, worst trip of my night, like of my life. 2:13:52.120 --> 2:13:55.360 So I'm on, I'm on all the edibles in the world, right, 2:13:55.880 --> 2:13:57.720 Rich is opening up for you. I'm standing in the crowd. 2:13:58.080 --> 2:14:00.520 My legs are cemented to the floor. I can't move. 2:14:01.200 --> 2:14:03.400 Garfield the Cats on stage next to Ritz with fucking 2:14:03.440 --> 2:14:04.320 slot machine eyes. 2:14:05.360 --> 2:14:05.880 You go on. 2:14:06.280 --> 2:14:08.920 I go outside. I'm puking on the side of the venue. 2:14:09.320 --> 2:14:14.520 I'm just throwing up profusely. Right, And I walk back in, 2:14:14.640 --> 2:14:17.320 and for whatever reason, like when I'm tripping hard, all 2:14:17.400 --> 2:14:20.960 of the ship that would make someone's trip really bad 2:14:21.480 --> 2:14:23.680 happening in real life around them always happens to me. Right, 2:14:24.200 --> 2:14:26.120 So I got some Native American dude trying to check 2:14:26.160 --> 2:14:29.160 me about being white on stolen land. Outside, going to 2:14:29.240 --> 2:14:32.960 the fucking backstage of the venue, and Brooklyn's beating the 2:14:33.120 --> 2:14:35.320 ship out of some guy on the side of the stage. 2:14:35.800 --> 2:14:38.440 We wait, is this the observatory? No, this isn't Arizona. 2:14:39.400 --> 2:14:41.760 This is this is how many times this happened. 2:14:41.800 --> 2:14:44.680 This is the clubhouse. I don't wonder which venue. This 2:14:44.800 --> 2:14:47.080 is the clubhouse in Arizona. And so I'm sitting on 2:14:47.160 --> 2:14:49.520 the couch and this fucking dude just getting the ship 2:14:49.680 --> 2:14:51.760 rocked out of him right in front of me. And 2:14:51.880 --> 2:14:54.640 I don't know how real it is because I'm fucked, 2:14:56.240 --> 2:14:58.920 and that dude's a gnarly dude. Little dude, but like 2:14:59.120 --> 2:15:00.800 not even a little dude, but like not like as 2:15:00.840 --> 2:15:02.960 big of a dude as you'd expect to be throwing 2:15:03.000 --> 2:15:05.400 the way he was throwing, like normal size guy. 2:15:06.520 --> 2:15:06.680 You know. 2:15:07.000 --> 2:15:11.000 No, Brooklyn was a savage. Savage. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, 2:15:11.000 --> 2:15:14.160 he's a maniac. Yeah, good time, the best time tour 2:15:14.240 --> 2:15:17.840 coming ish, Yeah, spot. I'm not I'm not into torn 2:15:17.960 --> 2:15:20.200 right now. Man, I'm telling you, I'm just like I'm. 2:15:21.560 --> 2:15:24.960 You had ruptured your spleen skydiving, right, that's crowded guy, 2:15:25.320 --> 2:15:26.520 crowd crowded. 2:15:26.320 --> 2:15:30.320 In a way. Yeah yeah, in Los Angeles, and that 2:15:30.480 --> 2:15:34.120 had stopped you from doing more of that? Correct? I? 2:15:34.400 --> 2:15:38.520 Well no it didn't. It didn't stop me, but did it? Got? 2:15:38.840 --> 2:15:41.240 I got this tattoo it said calm down. I was 2:15:41.320 --> 2:15:44.680 in ICU for fucking four days and assisted living for 2:15:44.800 --> 2:15:48.840 two weeks. They I had signed a death papers for 2:15:49.040 --> 2:15:51.560 that that injury. Like they were like, if you die, 2:15:51.640 --> 2:15:54.520 we're not responsible. Type of ship I was on dolt 2:15:54.640 --> 2:15:57.160 of and ship and then I and then I left 2:15:57.200 --> 2:16:00.240 that assisted living and went straight to the airport to 2:16:00.320 --> 2:16:07.600 Australia for a tour. Fuck and ah, man, I mean, 2:16:09.800 --> 2:16:13.760 I'm cool, I'm cool on like I just look, man, 2:16:14.000 --> 2:16:15.680 you're not gonna climb to the top of the venue 2:16:15.720 --> 2:16:19.800 and do a fucking flying elbow off of it. I 2:16:19.920 --> 2:16:22.760 mean I might, yeah, you know, I mean, what better 2:16:22.800 --> 2:16:27.120 way to go out? Honestly, I mean, dude, when I 2:16:27.240 --> 2:16:30.720 ruptured my spleen, what happened is I landed on a 2:16:30.800 --> 2:16:36.960 dude's face and his nosebone went into my spleen. So 2:16:37.120 --> 2:16:43.160 I like dove off of like fucking ten feet in 2:16:43.280 --> 2:16:45.680 Los Angeles. Actually I don't know what venue it was, 2:16:46.959 --> 2:16:49.560 so that dude was fucked up, but everybody's hands were 2:16:49.680 --> 2:16:51.400 up and this dude turned around like. 2:16:53.040 --> 2:16:54.119 Fucking splattered his nose. 2:16:54.160 --> 2:16:58.760 He was so stoked, he was so happy. No, wow, 2:16:58.879 --> 2:17:01.840 good for him for him being a real one. Twenty 2:17:01.920 --> 2:17:04.560 twenty four. That happens. They're getting fucking too. I've been 2:17:04.640 --> 2:17:10.359 superfore for what that that ship that happened at Observatory, 2:17:10.879 --> 2:17:13.040 What happened? How was happening at a few of your 2:17:13.080 --> 2:17:15.760 shows there? Now that that full jumped on stage and 2:17:15.840 --> 2:17:18.880 pulled me down. It was on like all like, what 2:17:19.040 --> 2:17:20.280 is it all hip hop or whatever? 2:17:20.480 --> 2:17:22.520 I remember the vlog you had where someone stepped on 2:17:22.560 --> 2:17:24.280 your bus and you clocked them. You remember that on 2:17:24.360 --> 2:17:28.240 the bus stairs? What was that like twelve years ago? 2:17:28.840 --> 2:17:30.680 Do you remember that? It was on one of your vlogs, 2:17:30.720 --> 2:17:33.560 like on your YouTube channel. Some fools some food was 2:17:33.600 --> 2:17:35.160 trying to get on the bus and you just fucking 2:17:35.280 --> 2:17:37.520 lay Yeah, yeah, for sure. 2:17:37.680 --> 2:17:40.520 But that that shit happened the loss you having an observatory. 2:17:40.720 --> 2:17:42.840 I got pulled down by my overalls. It was like 2:17:42.959 --> 2:17:47.040 a it's not no, it's all Star, No, not all 2:17:47.160 --> 2:17:51.680 Star world Star. Was this that ship and they posed 2:17:51.680 --> 2:17:53.400 it up but it blew up on ward Star or whatever? 2:17:53.520 --> 2:17:55.960 I like, was this the show that the jelly and 2:17:56.000 --> 2:17:59.359 struggle opened up on? No, no, no, people go okay, 2:17:59.800 --> 2:18:04.600 But anyway, Brooklyn was there. Yeah, the point is Brooklyn 2:18:04.720 --> 2:18:09.160 was there. I got a lawsuit. Shit I threw. I 2:18:09.200 --> 2:18:13.320 threw a bottle of this idiot who was who was 2:18:13.400 --> 2:18:17.600 trying to beat me up? Basically, and yeah, I got 2:18:17.920 --> 2:18:22.720 I got the business. Well, look man, May seventeenth album 2:18:22.840 --> 2:18:25.480 is coming. It's I'm excited for this one. Man, can 2:18:25.560 --> 2:18:26.640 we do some hip hop this year? 2:18:27.080 --> 2:18:27.320 Yeah? 2:18:27.520 --> 2:18:30.720 Can we fucking do some mother fucking hip hop this year? 2:18:30.760 --> 2:18:33.760 That's what I'm trying to fucking do. Man Warst Story 2:18:33.920 --> 2:18:37.879 May seventeenth, Truck Music Forever. My energy is up, man good, 2:18:38.280 --> 2:18:40.840 My energy is way up. I'm glad, bro, I'm serious, 2:18:41.920 --> 2:18:44.600 I'm glad. I feel it. I feel like that first 2:18:44.640 --> 2:18:46.879 record was a statement, like, bitch, I'm here to rack dog. 2:18:46.959 --> 2:18:48.640 You know what I'm saying, Like, don't forget I wanted 2:18:48.680 --> 2:18:52.279 the coldest. I'm here to do more than that fucking 2:18:55.040 --> 2:18:59.640 ballmart ballmart Baby, Go buy some some American. Go support 2:18:59.680 --> 2:19:02.680 this guy, Go buy some Slamerican. How about not go 2:19:02.840 --> 2:19:03.480 bootlegg it? 2:19:03.840 --> 2:19:07.280 keV dad joke? 2:19:07.320 --> 2:19:09.120 What's up with Newport? I still have a green hoodie 2:19:09.160 --> 2:19:10.080 with his fucking face on it. 2:19:10.800 --> 2:19:13.360 You have the fucking dude We're killing it hoodie. Yeah, 2:19:13.760 --> 2:19:15.600 that's a classic, man, you better hold on to that. 2:19:15.959 --> 2:19:19.440 We'll never make it again. I'm sure he won't. Why 2:19:19.480 --> 2:19:23.360 would you? That was a moment like be like, yo, 2:19:23.480 --> 2:19:27.240 let's print another Newport hoodie. Might print some skateboards or 2:19:27.280 --> 2:19:29.640 some shit, but oh Newport, dude, he's got his own 2:19:29.680 --> 2:19:34.560 skate shop. He's great man, Magic City, Miami. We had 2:19:35.560 --> 2:19:37.480 If you are getting down to Miami and you want 2:19:37.520 --> 2:19:40.440 to go to a skate shop with the family, check 2:19:40.520 --> 2:19:42.520 in in Magic City. Man. That's my boy. Man, he's 2:19:42.560 --> 2:19:45.320 got a great skateboard shop, you know, popping. 2:19:45.959 --> 2:19:49.440 Would you ever do any movies or try to maybe 2:19:49.520 --> 2:19:51.240 like write a pilot for a TV show based on 2:19:52.120 --> 2:19:54.240 some of your life or any of your fucking why 2:19:54.280 --> 2:19:54.480 do you. 2:19:54.600 --> 2:19:57.480 Ask so many things that have such long answers. 2:19:58.160 --> 2:20:00.680 Well, because we're waiting for that Mexicano t his handler 2:20:00.800 --> 2:20:02.680 just got here, the gay man in the corner over there. 2:20:02.959 --> 2:20:05.440 Well, first of all, I've done my first feature film. 2:20:05.440 --> 2:20:09.720 It's called Peter Peanut Butter Falcon with Sealah Buff Dakota. Zach. 2:20:11.560 --> 2:20:13.320 You used to check it out, Okay I didn't. I 2:20:13.320 --> 2:20:15.880 haven't seen that. When I didn't, we'll fucking stop sleeping on, 2:20:17.080 --> 2:20:21.119 stop sleeping. Got some bars, he definitely does, got bars, 2:20:21.600 --> 2:20:24.280 but not now this role. Oh John Hawks, you know 2:20:24.280 --> 2:20:29.640 what I mean, like like crew crew. But the movie 2:20:29.760 --> 2:20:33.440 is called Peanut Butter Falconi movie. That's also a sick 2:20:33.480 --> 2:20:40.840 band name. It's a great movie. Zach is starring in 2:20:40.959 --> 2:20:46.160 it and the story is what got me about the role. 2:20:46.640 --> 2:20:49.240 But I was fresh out of rehab, dude, like, and 2:20:49.360 --> 2:20:53.680 my role is called rat boy and pooh boy. Did 2:20:53.720 --> 2:20:54.200 I own that? 2:20:54.480 --> 2:20:55.200 You know? So? 2:20:55.400 --> 2:20:58.480 I fucking that was my first role and only role. 2:20:59.400 --> 2:21:01.920 But I just say down with Shannon from Average Joe's 2:21:02.400 --> 2:21:07.800 who they just did Old Henry And if you haven't 2:21:07.800 --> 2:21:10.960 seen Old Henry, please do yourself a favorite. Check that movie. 2:21:10.959 --> 2:21:14.960 I was brilliant Old Henry. So we're working on some things. 2:21:15.000 --> 2:21:19.160 I mean, we'll see. I'm just not a fucking artist 2:21:19.280 --> 2:21:22.240 that wants to do film for film's sake. I like 2:21:22.879 --> 2:21:26.040 rad shit, like I like how like most Death did 2:21:26.120 --> 2:21:30.600 it right get out. He just got the Italian job 2:21:30.680 --> 2:21:33.680 to be Henrie Wind. You know, he just picked great 2:21:33.840 --> 2:21:37.200 roles and he had a very like he was very 2:21:37.360 --> 2:21:41.760 tasteful about how he approached it, you know, and it 2:21:41.920 --> 2:21:45.000 was somehow it seemed like on brand for what you 2:21:45.040 --> 2:21:48.400 would appreciate from from him most deaf, you know what 2:21:48.440 --> 2:21:49.840 I'm saying. So I would like to do it like that. 2:21:50.040 --> 2:21:52.800 Another artist who did it is like Dwight Yoakum. Dwight 2:21:52.920 --> 2:21:55.320 Yoakum did it very tastefully. I feel like too. From 2:21:55.440 --> 2:21:58.720 from like music to film legend. So I'm just trying 2:21:58.760 --> 2:22:01.959 to make that like transition and like gracefully. I get 2:22:02.080 --> 2:22:04.480 rolls all the time, but it's always like some love interests, 2:22:04.560 --> 2:22:10.320 like fucking weird, just romantic comedy, like the fuck. 2:22:10.160 --> 2:22:10.440 Out of here. 2:22:10.440 --> 2:22:12.160 I don't want to do a romantic comedy like I 2:22:12.240 --> 2:22:16.800 want some fucking gnarly shit. Let's get gnarly. 2:22:17.440 --> 2:22:18.720 Let's get gnarly in twenty. 2:22:18.520 --> 2:22:20.480 Four, Gnarly twenty twenty four. 2:22:21.080 --> 2:22:23.120 I gotta fucking piss like a raise me too. 2:22:23.440 --> 2:22:26.440 What's in the fucking podcast? The podcast just ended. It's over. Now, 2:22:26.600 --> 2:22:32.560 it's over. Wait, what's the May seventeenth? May seventeenth War story? 2:22:32.640 --> 2:22:35.520 The double album is out, Thank you my god. keV, Hey, 2:22:35.640 --> 2:22:37.760 you're going to introduce me to os. Yeah, he'll be 2:22:37.800 --> 2:22:38.600 here in a second. Yeah,