Speaker 1: What's up.
Speaker 2: This is Yellow Wolf, Catfish Billy.
Speaker 1: Make sure you check me out on the Bootleg keV
Speaker 1: podcast happening right now.
Speaker 3: Yo, Bootleg cap podcast Man special guests in here, my guy.
Speaker 3: It's been a long time coming. Yep, mister Wolf himself,
Speaker 3: Yellowolf is in.
Speaker 1: The building, man, dud, good to see you as well.
Speaker 1: Been friends for a long time.
Speaker 3: For a very long time, man, Like shit, since like
Speaker 3: I think you and I met in twenty ten. Wow,
Speaker 3: I introduced you on stage at the Wiz the Wiz tourter.
Speaker 3: But I was already like a huge fan and already
Speaker 3: kind of like diving into your world and like following
Speaker 3: Ritz and shit, and so it was dope to be able.
Speaker 1: To meet you finally. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: O G Trunk Music. It was when like I think,
Speaker 3: just I wish was on the right fucking which was
Speaker 3: a fucking great record, a remix with Ray Kwan.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, shout out Taylor Gang. Shout to Taylor Gang. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a fucking era, man, it was.
Speaker 2: It was the you know, breaking bad basically.
Speaker 3: Dude, Like seriously, like when I think about like the
Speaker 3: best eras of hip hop I've been a part of
Speaker 3: that is the era where it was like twenty like
Speaker 3: nine twenty ten, the blog era, like still being excited
Speaker 3: when people and people were just dropping free music with
Speaker 3: like no like plan. It was just like what is
Speaker 3: this free music? That are these z share links and
Speaker 3: these media fire links, and you know, there was that
Speaker 3: PIF and all that shit, and like you were like,
Speaker 3: you're one of the goats of that era.
Speaker 1: So, I mean, you've been through so.
Speaker 2: Much, man, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Earlier I was talking to so Willpower, which will Power
Speaker 1: produced Trump music and the legend and a shit, shitty
Speaker 1: shit house in fucking the hood of gas in Alabama.
Speaker 2: We did that record, but as far as like releasing music.
Speaker 1: Speaking of that in particular, we fucking put a We
Speaker 1: put pop the trunk out from from the apartment from
Speaker 1: I was rooming his apartment to Twitter. That's how we
Speaker 1: got that record going crazy. And we did it with
Speaker 1: no permission. Actually we did it in spite of the
Speaker 1: advice to not well because I was like, well, that's
Speaker 1: got time. You were fully independent, right. I was with
Speaker 1: Kawan Pray through even with KP and Ghetto Ghetto Vision,
Speaker 1: but that was like more of a production deal. There
Speaker 1: was no like, now this is before south By.
Speaker 3: When you had everybody bidding on you and going crazy.
Speaker 3: This was very early on.
Speaker 1: So yeah, this was like that. That was the That
Speaker 1: was the pivotal record that put the Internet on fire
Speaker 1: and you know, got all the attention going. Then we
Speaker 1: started doing shows and had moved off video.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah for five grand with a five D and
Speaker 2: no lights.
Speaker 3: It's so crazy when you go back and watch that
Speaker 3: video still. I watched it recently. It's it holds up.
Speaker 3: Some of those videos they don't hold up, you know,
Speaker 3: but that video holds up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. It's like a it's like shook ones. You know,
Speaker 1: it's got that for real, for real in the streets,
Speaker 1: for real with the real people do when real shit
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, man, I mean it was just a
Speaker 1: the stars aligned for that to happen.
Speaker 3: Do you remember being featured on the hook of a
Speaker 3: Slim Thug song but not getting the featured credit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I run it didn't say feature and yellow No,
Speaker 1: I tell you, I like how so And then there
Speaker 1: was mixing up the medicine by Joel's. People were using
Speaker 1: you for hook hooks for a little bit. I went
Speaker 1: to uh the Ozone Awards in Texas. I had already
Speaker 1: done the Ozone Awards and uh with a mixtape and
Speaker 1: with DJ Ideal called Stereo. We're just getting our feet wet,
Speaker 1: you know, like trying ship doing things. That was my
Speaker 1: cup in the way, but uh, it was Jim Johnson
Speaker 1: and Jim Johnson and I both have this like affinity
Speaker 1: for classic rock, and.
Speaker 2: So I did he.
Speaker 1: I was at at the Ozone Awards and shit got
Speaker 1: crazy and I think it was Houston that sounds about right,
Speaker 1: and uh it got weird. You know, there was shit happening,
Speaker 1: beef happening, and ship and Jim was like, fuck this,
Speaker 1: Let's go to this studio. I got a session booked
Speaker 1: with Slim Thug, and uh, that is it.
Speaker 2: Flock of Seagulls.
Speaker 3: The original writ interpolation right, yeah, yeah, uh yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Run the streets all night and day. So I cut
Speaker 1: the vocals and I went back to Gadsten. I was
Speaker 1: still fucking dumb, broke, still living like in the trap basically,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't afford to make it to the video.
Speaker 1: So Jim Johnson stood in and voiced over my part.
Speaker 3: People who don't know Jim Johnson, this is the multi
Speaker 3: platinum Lollipop by Lil Wayne. I mean, you just guys
Speaker 3: got real fucking hit records, many legendary platinum producer.
Speaker 1: Many, many, many hits. Yeah, from the trailer parks of Florida,
Speaker 1: shout out Jim Johnson him, but yeah, he just he
Speaker 1: saw a place for me in that, and uh so
Speaker 1: we did it. But yeah, I remember walking around and
Speaker 1: it was a smash with smash record. It was all
Speaker 1: over the radio. Yeah, and I was just walking around
Speaker 1: like that's me, that's me, that's me. No, that's literally me.
Speaker 1: That's not They're like, nah, I'm like, dude, I run,
Speaker 1: that's me. Look like I'll sing it for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll seek it for you. But it spawned a
Speaker 2: bunch of opportunities.
Speaker 1: The next opportunity that came out for a short period,
Speaker 1: I was the guy to go to for that, so
Speaker 1: I redid uh Subterranean Blues by Bob Dylan for Joel
Speaker 1: Santana mixing up the medicine and I was in the basement.
Speaker 1: So it spawned out, and then it became like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm going to reach out to to this guy yellow Wolf.
Speaker 1: He's got the rock hooks, some cool hooks, and and
Speaker 1: then it spawned the relationship for Big Boy from Maltcast
Speaker 1: hit me up and I was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: big oh you were on I remember that was one
Speaker 1: of your first big looks. Well, your DJ no DJ
Speaker 1: started with he he was like, hey man, let me
Speaker 1: get one of them rock hooks.
Speaker 3: Because there was a few looks where I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: people are starting to catch on now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think it was the Big Boys shit.
Speaker 3: And then I remember you sharing a record with it
Speaker 3: It wasn't it wasn't it. You were on a record
Speaker 3: with bud Bee early on. What was the record?
Speaker 1: Uh around that time? Was it on your ship? Oh?
Speaker 1: Good to Go? Good to Go, That's what I'm thinking of. Yeah, yeah, good,
Speaker 1: that's your ship. That that was after uh that's after
Speaker 1: all this stuff. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was like big please, I just want to
Speaker 1: I need I need to wrap. I can. I actually
Speaker 1: got verses, like I got something fun. I got verses
Speaker 1: and he was playing beats. He's like what about this?
Speaker 1: What about that? And when I heard your DJ no DJ,
Speaker 1: he was like, man, now three thousand produced that. That's
Speaker 1: that's a no go. I said, please, man, and he
Speaker 1: gave me the track. He said, I'll give you a shot,
Speaker 1: and I gave him like sixty eight bars, like just
Speaker 1: non stop bars. So we ended up chopping those bars
Speaker 1: and sharing versus throughout the song. That was the record here,
Speaker 1: that was the one. That was the one he took me,
Speaker 1: you know, took me to the BET Awards with him
Speaker 1: and put me on stage for the first time in
Speaker 1: front of camera.
Speaker 2: So love you big podcast.
Speaker 3: A legend, man. It's crazy around that time you because
Speaker 3: when I think of nine oh wait hip hop, I'm thinking, like,
Speaker 3: there was the year where it was you and Krit
Speaker 3: were for Mixtape of the Year. I think it was
Speaker 3: DJ Booth did their awards. I think you lost to Crit,
Speaker 3: but I remember being like this is.
Speaker 2: Like always lose to Crit.
Speaker 1: But during that time, it was like so crazy because
Speaker 1: what about that one train though that I really lose
Speaker 1: to did not? No, you did not.
Speaker 3: And also I'd also like to point out the piece
Speaker 3: of Shit record where you Ritch and Crit was a
Speaker 3: fucking legendary Yes.
Speaker 1: Oh no, full of shit, full of shit, full of shit.
Speaker 1: I'm full of full of shit. I should I Yeah,
Speaker 1: my mama said I should have had brown eyes because
Speaker 1: why I'm full of ship, full of shit on full
Speaker 1: of shit.
Speaker 3: But even then, like with the Wiz movement that was
Speaker 3: going on, do you ever because you've had so many
Speaker 3: errors of your career, but do you ever take the
Speaker 3: time out to like truly reflect on like the stuff
Speaker 3: you've been a part of.
Speaker 1: Not really because I I'm like programmed next, next, like
Speaker 1: what's next.
Speaker 3: I think we all are that way, so at times
Speaker 3: it's it's like you kind of got to just reflect
Speaker 3: a little.
Speaker 1: Like fuck, I mean, it piles up, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's a I had a night actually where I got
Speaker 1: a new place in Nashville and I had my buddy
Speaker 1: Sam Lee over the tattoo guy, great guy, a little bro,
Speaker 1: you know, and and he's like, we're playing all this
Speaker 1: other music. He's like, yo, man, let's let's let's bump
Speaker 1: through your discography. You know. I was like, and I
Speaker 1: never ever do that. And after about an hour, I
Speaker 1: like sat down on the couch and I was like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, I'm yellow Wolf, Like what the fuck? You know?
Speaker 2: It was like this.
Speaker 1: I was like, it was like a it was scary, honestly,
Speaker 1: the real to realize the amount of music and what
Speaker 1: I've done over the years, you know, it was a
Speaker 1: bit emotional. Man, I was like, fuck, man, We've I've
Speaker 1: really put in work, man, Like we we've really been
Speaker 1: out here for a minute, doing a long doing a
Speaker 1: lot of shit. So uh but yeah, unless someone else
Speaker 1: brings it to my attention, I don't I don't really
Speaker 1: dig back because I'm just so focused on like what's
Speaker 1: right now, which right now for me is war Story.
Speaker 2: The double album is coming out in May.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything is very I mean, vintage blog era bars.
Speaker 1: The beat is crazy, the videos fucking crazy. It's just
Speaker 1: a rap video. You got fucking.
Speaker 3: Legend, you got fucking Estevon in there, you got you
Speaker 3: got fucking yeah, yeah, shout the Baldacci the face of
Speaker 3: La fucking DJ Paul's And it's just a very like
Speaker 3: i'd heard, like because I was talking to will Power
Speaker 3: a bit, but I heard like you were like kind
Speaker 3: of back honed in on scratching that itch again.
Speaker 1: Why why is this? Why? Why? Now? Though?
Speaker 2: Well, I did this rock and roll album with Shooter Jennings.
Speaker 1: I was gonna bring that out, by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a believer. Yeah yeah, bro listen people, sometimes why
Speaker 1: is a fucking It's like it might be a perfect
Speaker 1: rock album. We thought so, me and Jelly talk about
Speaker 1: it all the time because we're like, this ship is
Speaker 1: like the best version of like the old school rock
Speaker 1: we like. But today, well that's what we we that's
Speaker 1: what we set out to do. I mean, baby's fucking hard, bro,
Speaker 1: thank you well. We great Schroman music too.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah that album sometimes?
Speaker 1: Why please, if you're a rock and roll even if
Speaker 1: you're not a rock and roll fan, you should, you should,
Speaker 1: you should bump down on that arena shit. It's arena shit.
Speaker 1: I mean we you know, like Shooter and I have
Speaker 1: been talking about doing a record for years. Didn't know
Speaker 1: how we we're gonna do it, didn't know what we're
Speaker 1: gonna make, honestly, but he sent me a SoundBite of
Speaker 1: a guitar riff he made and it was during COVID.
Speaker 1: So I had this little studio up under my stairs
Speaker 1: and I recorded a vocal and sent it back to him,
Speaker 1: and he called me immediately like, holy shit, dude, if
Speaker 1: this is any indication of what we can do, we
Speaker 1: have to make this happen. So we booked a session
Speaker 1: at Sunset Sound and uh, two days before our first session,
Speaker 1: George Floyd was murdered and we already had flights we
Speaker 1: already had all these things set up, so we came
Speaker 1: into l a hot you know that it was obviously
Speaker 1: a wild time and so deuring the during the making
Speaker 1: of that record, we were out marching. We were out
Speaker 1: like we would take just a break and just go
Speaker 1: walk for a few miles, you know, just supporting. And
Speaker 1: but obviously the vibe was just so and intense. You know,
Speaker 1: there's helicopters and and and you're in ls everywhere. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm on Sunset Sunset sound man, all the Sunset Trip.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fucking protests were everywhere. I mean she was
Speaker 3: active right outside the door.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was active, very you know, and so it did.
Speaker 1: It created that part created all an intense emotional vibe,
Speaker 1: and one record reflects that. Off that album in particular,
Speaker 1: it's it's just a story of the neighborhood is going
Speaker 1: to ship, you know, like everything is changing, and but
Speaker 1: you know, like as far as like the record and
Speaker 1: the vibe of of each song was, we just wanted
Speaker 1: to do what we loved, like the ship that we
Speaker 1: grew up listening to, the ship that we the rock
Speaker 1: that we were inspired by, and each song just started happening.
Speaker 1: We wrote and record of that entire album and that
Speaker 1: in that week, That in a week. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: If anybody who hasn't heard this album just listen to
Speaker 3: make me a believer and tell me it isn't meant
Speaker 3: to be in a fucking That ship is like stadium
Speaker 3: rock bro.
Speaker 1: That you know, like what we we definitely we thought so.
Speaker 1: I thought that that record. I thought that that album
Speaker 1: was going to change my career forever. I was like,
Speaker 1: because we thought that as well. I was like, Man,
Speaker 1: this ship may really really go, and this may actually
Speaker 1: people are going to forget that I was even a rapper.
Speaker 1: That's how powerful I thought that record was. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to they'll dig back and discover pop
Speaker 1: the trunk and they're going to scratch their head. They're
Speaker 1: not going to even know. Well, as it turned out
Speaker 1: like the you know, we and we got all these
Speaker 1: crazy critical acclaims. You know, it played the played the
Speaker 1: Grammy Museum and we were you know, considered for a
Speaker 1: nomination and all those things, and it just kind of
Speaker 1: I don't think that it had a moment. I don't
Speaker 1: think that it for whatever reason, it didn't have the
Speaker 1: moment we thought it was going to have. But we
Speaker 1: did like legendary Ship. We played Rainbow Rooms fiftieth anniversary.
Speaker 2: Which is crazy it played. We played the Viper Room.
Speaker 1: We did some really cool ship with that opened up
Speaker 1: for Leonard skinnerd like, yeah, we.
Speaker 2: Did crazy ship with the record. But I think.
Speaker 1: The the lack of what I considered I thought it
Speaker 1: was a little underappreciated and under under worked.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it's that it's not you guys,
Speaker 3: it's really the you know. No, it wasn't like I mean,
Speaker 3: because I know it was worked to radio because I
Speaker 3: remember the machine well, I remember seeing it on the
Speaker 3: radio chart at rock. So I was like, oh, at
Speaker 3: least they're working it to rock, you know, Like yeah,
Speaker 3: but it's it's the machine.
Speaker 1: Okay. It takes a lot of a lot of things
Speaker 1: to make radio work. Let's just say that. And and
Speaker 1: I wasn't willing. I was like, man, if it you know,
Speaker 1: if it's not, if it's not doing what it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be. Really on a campaign, bro, it's really a campaign. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing that we did that we
Speaker 1: reignited as a as a crew is we put a
Speaker 1: quarter million dollars in wheat pasting across the world and
Speaker 1: billboards and we tore s it up all over Paris, Australia, Japan,
Speaker 1: like Canada, New Zealand, you know, like and that was impactful,
Speaker 1: that had that had a real impact on people. I
Speaker 1: got it. There's a photo of Paul Rosenberg taking a
Speaker 1: selfie in front of the wheat paste in Paris.
Speaker 3: You know, no people, I think people underestimate that Gorilla ships.
Speaker 1: Too, they do. I don't.
Speaker 2: But you know, keep sleeping, keep sucking shit works.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean you were get back to what made
Speaker 1: uh okay so okay? So reuniting with willpower. It's been,
Speaker 1: it's been, it's been not too many years. But well,
Speaker 1: when I tapped back in, like literally like when I say,
Speaker 1: I compartmentalized those moments and so when I when I
Speaker 1: dove into sometimes why that was that was my life
Speaker 1: and my existence and I put all my energy into that.
Speaker 1: But the frustration of the what I thought was the
Speaker 1: under being underappreciated when you think.
Speaker 3: This is our life change, this is going to change things,
Speaker 3: and it maybe goes you know.
Speaker 1: And it don't and it don't. It it definitely got
Speaker 1: like artistic credibility. Sure, but it just made me like
Speaker 1: tap back in to hip hop. And when I did
Speaker 1: tap back in, I was like, nah, man, I have
Speaker 1: something to say, I have something to do. It made
Speaker 1: me so hungry for versus because I had spent so
Speaker 1: much time training myself how to sing correctly, how to
Speaker 1: deliver those rock and roll records the best that I could,
Speaker 1: and I was so hyper focused on that that when
Speaker 1: I pulled that spot out of my mind where I
Speaker 1: do rap versus hip, I just got so hungry for
Speaker 1: hip hop again. And so I talked to Malay. I
Speaker 1: called Malay and I called Willpower, and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: we need to get back together and do love story again,
Speaker 1: but this time, let's call it war story because we've
Speaker 1: been through it. And so I came out to Los
Speaker 1: Angeles State at the Sunset Market. He Malay would feed
Speaker 1: me bpms. For the most part, there was no beats.
Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy, that's pretty crazy. He would send me like, Okay,
Speaker 1: today's BPM eighty five. Yes, today's eighty five, here's a
Speaker 1: click track. And I would write full songs and hooks
Speaker 1: and everything, go into the studio at like two pm.
Speaker 2: Cut my verses, cut the hooks and he'd.
Speaker 1: Produce around it. That's the that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And people.
Speaker 1: Who don't know that's like the opposite of how it
Speaker 1: usually goes right. Yeah. I mean, if you're like hip hop, recording,
Speaker 1: it's usually to a beat to a beat, you're you're
Speaker 1: something exactly something to some kind of melody. But recording
Speaker 1: it's with absolutely nothing. Like He's like, nah, man, you
Speaker 1: make up a melody in your head, make up a concept,
Speaker 1: make up a cadence, and bring it. And so I did,
Speaker 1: and we did that for the whole album. And when
Speaker 1: I cut that album, I was like, oh fuck. I
Speaker 1: still hadn't worked with Willpower. So we cut a whole
Speaker 1: album with Malay. I called Will. I said, man, you
Speaker 1: got to come to Atlanta and I mean, you got
Speaker 1: to come to Nashville and here this fucking record that
Speaker 1: me and Malay did. It's bonkers. Your your work is
Speaker 1: cut out for you. Because if we're gonna do what
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna do, I think we're gonna to
Speaker 1: hang you gotta you gotta go crazy.
Speaker 2: And he did.
Speaker 1: He went absolutely crazy, and we went to Atlanta and
Speaker 1: cut that record. And when I had both the albums,
Speaker 1: I was like, man, this is not. I can't blend
Speaker 1: these two. This is two separate albums. But then I
Speaker 1: didn't have time to put two of them out like separately,
Speaker 1: so it's like, fuck it, let's just put out a
Speaker 1: double album. So it's Trump Music Forever with will Power
Speaker 1: and Michael Wayne with Malay all under All under a
Speaker 1: War Story.
Speaker 3: I look at like I always somehow will Power is back.
Speaker 3: We got liquor, liquors, Liquors touchdown. I was gonna say,
Speaker 3: willis coat. I always tell will Power on is it
Speaker 3: Box Chevy four?
Speaker 1: On which what's which one is on?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Trump Music too?
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 1: I got a surprise for the block Chevy fans, but
Speaker 1: you is there. I got a big surprise for.
Speaker 2: Bock Chevy fans on the War Story.
Speaker 1: Bock Chevy eight is on War Story and crazy Man,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. I have three of my close
Speaker 1: friends and og Slamerican Killer my squad that were at
Speaker 1: the Grammys American sen exactly. Yeah, he knows his ship. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: fuck it, Killer, Mike, DJ Paul and Jelly Roll are
Speaker 1: on this record, not on Box Chevy eight separately and
Speaker 1: on different songs. So I'm not gonna tell you which
Speaker 1: song they're on, but they're all three on there and
Speaker 1: they were all at the Grammys. Dude, that was such
Speaker 1: a moment man like like as a, as A, as
Speaker 1: a friend and A and A and A and an
Speaker 1: artist friend, like watching that, like my boys up there
Speaker 1: getting it amazing, and look, we already had.
Speaker 2: These records in the bag.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, it's funny.
Speaker 3: I saw your story when you were watching I because
Speaker 3: I was watching. I never watched the Grammys, but I
Speaker 3: was watching them like you because I just I just
Speaker 3: wanted to see if Jelly got new artists.
Speaker 1: Right right right of course. So it was literally but
Speaker 1: come on, Mike, Mike. But but it sucked that wasn't
Speaker 1: on TV because by the time the show started on TV,
Speaker 1: we already knew he won three and then I think
Speaker 1: he was in He was a handcuffs by then. That
Speaker 1: was incredible. I have been more pro I'm to sweep
Speaker 1: three of them.
Speaker 3: And then I just love the post like campaign he's
Speaker 3: on right now going to the breakfast club talking his
Speaker 3: ship like he made the best rap album of the year.
Speaker 1: It's not even close. Him and I talked about it.
Speaker 1: I was like, you're gonna get a Grammy for this
Speaker 1: that's you know what and deservingly, deservingly come on, you
Speaker 1: know and and it just goes back so far. Mike
Speaker 1: was one of my very, very first cosns. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about going back to kicking like way before, like when
Speaker 1: I first got my first situation, a brief situation with
Speaker 1: Columbia Records, Mike pulled up. Mike pulled up with when
Speaker 1: I was working with Will Power and we did Sla
Speaker 1: American Shit. Is the first time that I even mentioned Slamerican?
Speaker 1: Was that record? Alum on YouTube?
Speaker 2: I'm sure it is.
Speaker 1: Everything's on fer I just had it on my phone forever.
Speaker 1: Everything's on YouTube. I find shit of mine on YouTube.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm I don't even how it's still there,
Speaker 1: but yeah, everything ends up there. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So for people who don't know it's American Shittisen was
Speaker 3: a record that you and Killer Mike did, I don't know,
Speaker 3: twelve years ago, fifteen years ago, I don't even know
Speaker 3: how long ago.
Speaker 1: Was in a fucking barn studio in Atlanta, Georgia. It's
Speaker 1: not even there no more. They tore that motherfucker down.
Speaker 1: It's like Atlantic Station now.
Speaker 3: No, but it's it's definitely it's it's been cool to
Speaker 3: see him and Jelly's Grammy night.
Speaker 2: Was so awesome and Paul DJ Paul.
Speaker 3: Yeah and Paul and Paul went in a Grammy. He
Speaker 3: might fuck around with an E guy if he wants
Speaker 3: to go do something.
Speaker 1: I think we're going to. Man, we talked about to
Speaker 1: score a play. Now that's what I'm saying. Please, he
Speaker 1: could get an E guy for real. I want to
Speaker 1: I want to see I want to see Memphis through
Speaker 1: his eyes in a play and and and a series
Speaker 1: for the Emmy. He deserves that, dude, Paul's the best.
Speaker 1: So what are we drinking? Dad?
Speaker 2: Slow Mafia, by the.
Speaker 1: Way, that ep you guys did? That? Was that a
Speaker 1: four banger?
Speaker 3: You guys did like what seven eight years ago with
Speaker 3: all the fucking classic samples?
Speaker 1: Fuck? Oh, Paul, he done another one that we've done
Speaker 1: two so far we did, Yeah, we did. What did
Speaker 1: we call that? That ship was tough? Yeah? That was
Speaker 1: there was only four records I think. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like a quick one, like a quick banger that we
Speaker 1: did another one titled slaw Mafia like that like.
Speaker 2: Two I think three three.
Speaker 1: Years ago, like I did a August I called it
Speaker 1: the august Onslaught where I dropped like four albums in
Speaker 1: a month that it was you drop that.
Speaker 3: You dropped the album with riff Raft, you dropped, you
Speaker 3: dropped two others.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I dropped uh uh, DJ DJ Mugs, Miles zero
Speaker 1: Ye shout to Mugs with fucking Del the Funky Homo
Speaker 1: Sapient and DJ Paul on one record.
Speaker 3: Another great ol Fi hip hop record. Another great album
Speaker 3: you did. But it was after the Sometimes Why Ship?
Speaker 3: If I'm right that I feel like you scratched your
Speaker 3: rapping itche On was you and Caski's album.
Speaker 1: Is fucking crazy? That came after. I think it came
Speaker 1: after Yellow Black Sheep came after I think I might.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: No, No it didn't because I was with Caski at
Speaker 3: the at the Rainbow Room.
Speaker 2: Yeah no I didn't.
Speaker 1: It was before it was, but I was with Caski
Speaker 1: at you know what you guys are talking about doing
Speaker 1: part two?
Speaker 2: You know a matter of fact, we were kind.
Speaker 1: Of deep into it, and and I knew that that
Speaker 1: record had to come out, and I was telling Caski.
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, and I was like, I got
Speaker 1: this rock and roll project. Though, Man, I'm telling you
Speaker 1: we better get this out. Yeah, we better go. But
Speaker 1: been a problem man is one of my favorite. Shout
Speaker 1: to Tasty Man, so yeah, yeah, yeah'd be his crazy
Speaker 1: that have one of the hardest videos too. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Kaski too, who's getting married in a couple of days.
Speaker 1: And I can't fucking make it too, is what. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, dog, I'm sorry I cannot make it to you.
Speaker 1: He's one of the.
Speaker 3: Best, very underrated somehow, but just murdering it, building this
Speaker 3: fan base still.
Speaker 1: I that's a that's a that's that whole underrated thing
Speaker 1: is like such a mystery. I like, I don't know
Speaker 1: how well okay, so and in the same sense, like
Speaker 1: even myself. You know, I met an artist named Cordel
Speaker 1: with DJ Paul the other day. This guy get did
Speaker 1: two billion streams just last year, and I had no clue.
Speaker 2: I had never heard of him, never met him.
Speaker 1: What kind of music does he do? It's like festival
Speaker 1: like dark know, it's they call it funk, they call
Speaker 1: it funky. Yeah, like they call that rat. But he
Speaker 1: took over that ship and you know, and we hit
Speaker 1: it up. We're homies. But I'm just like, you can
Speaker 1: you can like have these like like your parameters don't
Speaker 1: make like it doesn't line up with it, and you
Speaker 1: can have a whole solar system and no one knows,
Speaker 1: like people like you wouldn't believe.
Speaker 2: Like a dude walks up to me like two days ago, like, oh.
Speaker 1: Shit, yellow Wolf, what what dude? What I'm what? You
Speaker 1: still making music? Like?
Speaker 2: Man, I heard from you since Pop the Chunk.
Speaker 1: I was like dog, you you you checked out. I
Speaker 1: didn't check out. You tapped into some other ship. I've
Speaker 1: been tapped in on my ship, you know, Like I
Speaker 1: was like Dog. Since then, I've done like fifteen albums.
Speaker 1: I don't know where you've been. But then I have
Speaker 1: a gold album and multi platinum bro actually today like
Speaker 1: multi platinum records and you know, a fucking a whiskey
Speaker 1: company of fucking clothing and apparel brand, a fucking just
Speaker 1: all kinds of shit's going on, and you know, but
Speaker 1: it's just like you know, no, you can just exist, man. Well,
Speaker 1: I always because I went to Utah and interviewed the
Speaker 1: NBA Young Boy and I did a show with him
Speaker 1: in New Zealand. Oh that's great, it's random him and CEO.
Speaker 1: It was me and him and Cuevo Fire. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: were dope, Like, both of them are great, but the
Speaker 1: actual festival and the whole way random they did not have.
Speaker 1: I flew out there with Tea pain. I was getting
Speaker 1: more random paint. Well that's the homie first of all.
Speaker 1: Oh he's the best, he's great. Uh got knights with
Speaker 1: that guy? Yeah, me too? Uh uh? I love his wife.
Speaker 1: Two shots. His wife's wife's great. Of course she's She's
Speaker 1: from Gadsden, Alabama, my hometown.
Speaker 3: I feel like her and I discussed that, but for real,
Speaker 3: I think so because I think she had some sort
Speaker 3: of road tide shit going on and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: you're from Alabama and she said, you're one of my
Speaker 3: only Alabama references.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's blown up a lot more. There's a lot more.
Speaker 3: Popping artists from Alabama now, you know. But like I'm
Speaker 3: always like, yo, where is that? How close is that
Speaker 3: to Gadson? And they're like, how do you know about Gatsa?
Speaker 3: Like Yellowolf from Gadson.
Speaker 1: Beyonce is from Guys and I heard I know her.
Speaker 1: Most of her family is still there, the Knowles family.
Speaker 1: Are you all hip to? Like the young I know
Speaker 1: streets of that Alabama got roots and gas. And let
Speaker 1: me be clear. I know I know she wraps Texas,
Speaker 1: but do you pay attention?
Speaker 3: Like there's a kid named No Cap who's going crazy,
Speaker 3: but he's like sign a little baby, super young street rapper,
Speaker 3: but he's fucking litt He's from Alabama like some blues dope.
Speaker 1: He's from US. He's from alabam. Alabama's having a wave man.
Speaker 2: Alabama RECTI Peace dough b.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. Wasn't there a group called Dirty? Oh yeah, Dirty? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Of course a group called Dirty were they wasn't it
Speaker 1: Pop the Trunk? And there were were? There? Were they
Speaker 1: on rap a lot? I don't know they might have been.
Speaker 2: I don't you know what.
Speaker 1: I don't really nerd out like that, you know, like
Speaker 1: I said, I'm just I'm so hyper focused on the
Speaker 1: ship that I do the next yeah.
Speaker 2: Or just what I'm doing at the time.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't have the bandwidth to study everything
Speaker 1: that's happening. There's so fucking much and there's always something
Speaker 1: new to discover and a lot of fucking talent. Man. Honestly,
Speaker 1: the young the younger generation is killing it. In my opinion.
Speaker 1: I love what's coming up. You know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of trash, of course, but there's a lot of inspiration
Speaker 1: as well. For you.
Speaker 3: We talked about Jelly a little bit, but just to
Speaker 3: see I really gotta want to you know. You you've
Speaker 3: been a guy who's been championing Jelly roll for it
Speaker 3: for years and years and years from the grit and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, he's always.
Speaker 1: With He's one of the first crew members with this
Speaker 1: SLA American tattoo, you know what I mean, Like that
Speaker 1: that I took Jelly on tour with me and you know,
Speaker 1: like put him in the studio and produce one of
Speaker 1: his first singer songwriter songs, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like during when I was making a Ghetto Cowboy and
Speaker 1: a Trial by Fire, when when Struggle just got out
Speaker 1: of prison, had you know, Struggles still out of halfway house,
Speaker 1: when I was pulling pulling them into the studio and
Speaker 1: working and then uh waiting and Willie, which I think
Speaker 1: they've done four of them now, but the first one
Speaker 1: first was with us, you know. Yeah, And but you know,
Speaker 1: to see to see it, he's just so incredibly smart man,
Speaker 1: like blows my mind. I call him the Governor, Like, dude,
Speaker 1: you're the governor he'll walk in.
Speaker 2: He remembers everyone's.
Speaker 1: Name, always eye contact, always everyone's name. How's your mom?
Speaker 1: He remember mom's name, kids names, birthdays. He's like a
Speaker 1: savant with that ship. And he's so pleasant to be around.
Speaker 1: And I'm just happy that people are getting to experience that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he's always been that,
Speaker 1: and he's always been the name hustling too though, Like sure,
Speaker 1: but don't get it fucked up. He's tough, tough as nails,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And so but.
Speaker 3: He hasn't changed, like people are like, yo, this guy
Speaker 3: Jelly's so great, Like his interviewsers like that's how he's
Speaker 3: always finished.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not going to say. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: say he hasn't changed, but he has evolved into a
Speaker 1: better version of himself, you know, Like the game is
Speaker 1: fucking hard, man, and when you're when you're down, you
Speaker 1: tend to be you gotta chip on your shoulder, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And when things start to evolve,
Speaker 1: it lightens up that weight that that you have been
Speaker 1: carrying for so long, and it allows you to be
Speaker 1: cool or you know what I mean. And so that
Speaker 1: for him, I'm happy. I'm happy for him that he
Speaker 1: is going to relieve Congress. He's relieved of the burden
Speaker 1: of getting known. Now it's a rap. Now he gets
Speaker 1: to like sit back, make more music, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean when I tell people like he's been an
Speaker 3: underground rapper for years, like this guy was opening for
Speaker 3: Insane Clown Posse like nine years ago.
Speaker 1: Like people don't get it, like ship me too, fucking
Speaker 1: woo woo. They're coming here tonight, the coming here. I'm
Speaker 1: interviewing them at ten pm. Two.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be good. Dude.
Speaker 2: It last time.
Speaker 1: I look, I did that festival. Yeah, I guess that
Speaker 1: the last the last time. What was I like, Well,
Speaker 1: the first time, the first show I went to, they
Speaker 1: started throwing fireworks on stage and I heard that, like
Speaker 1: you know, they were like rowdy. I've heard that. I've
Speaker 1: seen it, yeah, and I was like, fuck it, I'm
Speaker 1: about that life. And I was with Shady at the time.
Speaker 1: So when I walked on stage, I said, Shady records
Speaker 1: in this motherfucker and I knew but like purposeful that show, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: because I knew the beef You're like throw shit at me.
Speaker 1: I'm here.
Speaker 2: I knew the beef.
Speaker 1: They're like boo, start throwing fireworks on stage and.
Speaker 2: I said, I said, I said, whoo whoop, let's go.
Speaker 1: And they loved it. It was like it was like
Speaker 1: instant family, you know what I mean. I didn't say
Speaker 1: that to say fuck y'all. I said that to say
Speaker 1: I'm not scared, you know what I mean? Respect me here.
Speaker 1: I made a fucking party. So they started throwing the
Speaker 1: fucking fireworks on stage, and then somebody threw like a
Speaker 1: pile of those fucking black cat firecrackers and it just
Speaker 1: so happened right during the line, stood on top of them,
Speaker 1: jump on like a pack is standing to get back
Speaker 1: in the back and live with the pack of man ex.
Speaker 1: I just went off on this fucking tangent and they
Speaker 1: were going like fireworks and the fucking like and they
Speaker 1: were like family family.
Speaker 2: It was a rap after that.
Speaker 1: So I fell in love with their squad and the
Speaker 1: fans that they're the best man's the best people out there. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I heard that the festival's wild placement. No okay, so
Speaker 1: it got rowdier now they knew I was about it.
Speaker 1: So the second time I went, they threw mortars. Mortars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that can hurt No, no, no, no, it definitely could.
Speaker 1: And then somebody fucking hit me in the face with
Speaker 1: a bottle rocket. Luckily I had shades on, but I
Speaker 1: was like, fuck it, let's go. I never stopped, and
Speaker 1: then this last time I went last, I'd have been
Speaker 1: done after that. Oh listen, gonna shoot me next time? No?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, okay they did, they did.
Speaker 1: Okay, So so I walked out on stage, and I
Speaker 1: guess at this point they're like, how rowdy can we
Speaker 1: get during a Wolf set? You know, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: they wanted to hurt me. It wasn't like that. That's
Speaker 1: just their way of showing love, and like that's just
Speaker 1: what they do. I guess it's like old school, like oh,
Speaker 1: like like Western. They used to you know, they like
Speaker 1: chicken wire around the stage and they would throw bottles
Speaker 1: and beers when they loved the band.
Speaker 2: They were just like that's just how they represent So
Speaker 2: walking on stage.
Speaker 1: Chicken wings, fucking hot dogs, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm getting stung by bees, like all
Speaker 1: over my body, but I'm not moving. And then it
Speaker 1: started to fucking like I need to move left and
Speaker 1: right because something's they've they've sent I don't know what
Speaker 1: the fuck was happening.
Speaker 2: It was dark, but it was so come to find.
Speaker 1: There was like three people out there with those automatic
Speaker 1: fucking uh pellet guns that shoot plastic, and they were
Speaker 1: like lighting me up, just the whole my whole set,
Speaker 1: just fucking just fucking me up. But I survived. So
Speaker 1: there's that. They got that, Like the drug Bridge family,
Speaker 1: they're like, fuck you yo. So before the show, I
Speaker 1: was I was talking to what's homie's name, Shaggy you
Speaker 1: violent Jol.
Speaker 2: I was talking to viol j.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, hey man, you know
Speaker 1: last time they threw mortars on stage. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what's going to happen tonight, but you know,
Speaker 1: if it gets too crazy, you think you could come
Speaker 1: out there and like make sure they don't like kill
Speaker 1: me or something.
Speaker 6: He was like, bro, honestly, it'll probably get worse if
Speaker 6: I step out there and say something like you can't
Speaker 6: tell them to calm down. I was like, you're right,
Speaker 6: you're right, you're right, all right, fuck it, here we go.
Speaker 1: And so that was that. I was all fucking fucked up.
Speaker 1: Looked like I got hit with ants all over my body.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's shout out to uh to the Juggalos. They're
Speaker 3: an interesting uh group of humans there.
Speaker 2: Some artists got fucked up up out there, though, man like.
Speaker 3: Tila Tequila got fucked up for Tela Tequila was like
Speaker 3: on stage and they just just bombed her with just
Speaker 3: and I think somebody from I think od B and
Speaker 3: I gonna talk too more about the detes ICP Man's
Speaker 3: good guys.
Speaker 1: Good guys, I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, they're good guys.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. They fucking they pay attention,
Speaker 1: you know, and they showed love and support. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've built an amazing following. Those dudes are brilliant, to
Speaker 1: be honest, like brilliant business guys.
Speaker 3: You have had a crazy since you got off of Shady.
Speaker 3: I feel like, well, a good thing that happened was
Speaker 3: Trunk Music too almost immediately went up on DSPs, which
Speaker 3: was fucking amazing because that's actually my favorite one, that's
Speaker 3: my favorite project of yours.
Speaker 1: But Trump music too, Yes, what's the fucking second truck music? No,
Speaker 1: I know what I'm just trying to figure out. Yeah, oh, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: first that was on that for the first time, I
Speaker 1: forget which.
Speaker 2: One is one, which one's whatever.
Speaker 1: I DJ the fucking release party in South Boy. You
Speaker 1: were fucking blackout well, of course, and I had a
Speaker 1: beard and a gold grill. Yes you did, Yes you did.
Speaker 1: Uh Boo was tripping out rest in peace. She's like,
Speaker 1: you got a grill and a beard. I'm surprised everybody
Speaker 1: I saw who would I see who?
Speaker 2: Uh uh djuh Drama.
Speaker 1: Saw Drama on the plane on the way to south
Speaker 1: By Southwest and I was sitting next to him in
Speaker 1: first class. He was like, he's like, yo, yellow Wolf.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, yeah, dog had a
Speaker 1: fucking big period and a gold grill. He's like, I
Speaker 1: was like, what, It's just a beard. He goes, nah, man,
Speaker 1: it's a lot. That's a lot.
Speaker 2: Nah Man, that's a lot.
Speaker 1: Don't just call the beard. But I showed up at
Speaker 1: south By Southwest that hey man, thank you by the
Speaker 1: way for fucking supporting that record.
Speaker 3: And No, it's been crazy though, just to see like
Speaker 3: your output has been so awesome in terms of just
Speaker 3: from a fan's perspective, because I feel like when you
Speaker 3: were on Innerscope and Shady, we knew like if you
Speaker 3: dropped music.
Speaker 1: You'd be in a few years, you know, we get
Speaker 1: something new.
Speaker 3: But now it's like like you said, you had a
Speaker 3: month thre you dropped an album every week. You might say,
Speaker 3: fuck it, I want to go. Do you know an
Speaker 3: album with CASKI or a rock album.
Speaker 1: I do it the fu I want to do when
Speaker 1: I want to do it. The other problem at that
Speaker 1: with you know, just to add a conversation, like the
Speaker 1: reason why artists get caught up at labels is because, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got an album, it's prime, it's mixed, mastered, everything's
Speaker 1: ready to go, got the whole world out planning going.
Speaker 1: But hey, guess what, Kendrick Lamar's dropping on Fridays, so
Speaker 1: we gotta wait. You cannot you know what I mean
Speaker 1: type of deal where it's like now it's like fucking
Speaker 1: drop that ship whenever, you know. And I love that,
Speaker 1: and I know the fans appreciate it because, like you know,
Speaker 1: and also this freestyles. Freestyles are fucking fun as fuck.
Speaker 1: You know, just fucking record record them day of put
Speaker 1: them out that night. You know, like it's that shit
Speaker 1: is so much fun, and it just keeps the mojo flowing. Man,
Speaker 1: And I'm excited about worst story Oh my god, this
Speaker 1: double album. I'm excited. Oh my god. Dude, I've always
Speaker 1: told you, by the way, and whenever you want to
Speaker 1: do this during this podcast, if you would like to,
Speaker 1: You've always asked me, let me break something, let me
Speaker 1: break a record, let me break a song.
Speaker 2: So I've decided I'll let I'll let you.
Speaker 1: I will. I will grant you that. Now I'll let
Speaker 1: you take a pick. Actually, because we've been homies for
Speaker 1: so long. Yeah, okay, I got five singles that are
Speaker 1: gonna roll out all the way up until the album
Speaker 1: coming out May May. Okay, so we got five singles
Speaker 1: and five videos. We just put out everything with a video.
Speaker 1: Fucking sick video, sick record. Thank you. The next that's
Speaker 1: off of Trump Music Forever. The next single that's coming
Speaker 1: out is off of the Michael Wayne album, so we're
Speaker 1: kind of skipping back. That's the one I just listened to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, listen to that is a Michael Wayne album.
Speaker 1: No, I listened to the record though. The next record
Speaker 1: that got the next record, get the fuck out of here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is it? I just fucking heard it. It's vibe
Speaker 1: as fuck. Who since you make you love Me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. Right, Yeah, who the fuck? Since you make
Speaker 1: you love me? Fucking rich?
Speaker 4: You have it?
Speaker 5: Bro?
Speaker 4: Nah?
Speaker 2: Who oh my publishers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, he's fucking leaking your shit. This guy, he's
Speaker 1: leaking your ship. He sent you that record. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at it her.
Speaker 2: Hey, bro, we need to talk.
Speaker 1: I got the clean edit, too clean edit. I don't
Speaker 1: know you play clean edits have to Yeah, I'm on
Speaker 1: the like you know, I'm all over the all right, Bro?
Speaker 1: I like that record. I'll play you whatever you want.
Speaker 1: We did do a freestyle. Remember we did that Wu
Speaker 1: Tang freestyle we recorded at money Mar's house. I'll play you,
Speaker 1: I'll play you, make you love me, I'll play you. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'll play you anything you want off the records. Matter
Speaker 1: of fact, I had thought, fuck it, I'll send the
Speaker 1: whole goddamn album. I like to listen to it for sure.
Speaker 1: You can trust me. I'm not gonna leak it.
Speaker 2: No, what I'm saying is leak it.
Speaker 1: Oh you want me to leak it? Oh? I see
Speaker 1: what we're doing. Okay, Yeah, yeah, I'm down. But let's
Speaker 1: just start with the single and the singles done both.
Speaker 1: Like I'm telling you whatever.
Speaker 3: When I heard this everything record I'm telling you because
Speaker 3: I saw you teasing it, but when I saw when
Speaker 3: it finally because it dropped like two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Now it was the last Friday. I feel like it
Speaker 1: just came out. Yeah, it's like on the sixteenth. That
Speaker 1: dropped on the sixteenth. Thank you, amazing, amazing record man.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Willpower. I'm excited to hear both sides.
Speaker 3: So this is like a double disc if there were
Speaker 3: discs still.
Speaker 1: Disc well, I mean it's it's gonna be vinyl, So
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to do the vinyl like you
Speaker 1: might even have four Vieah, you know, it's dope. This
Speaker 1: is dope. I'm going to the actual vinyl press. I'm
Speaker 1: going to pour my own wax Wow into into an
Speaker 1: exclusive amount of We're obviously we're doing a lot of vinyl,
Speaker 1: but there will be a certain number that I pour myself,
Speaker 1: and they'll be numbered. Yeah, they'll be signed the number
Speaker 1: that I've and we're gonna film it and all that shit,
Speaker 1: And that's just for the fans and also something fucking
Speaker 1: really cool. I've never been I've never done that before,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna pour and press my own
Speaker 1: vinyl and I'm gonna make up. So I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: some shit like mix mix up some colors and ship
Speaker 1: make them like really super unique. Y. Yeah, put some
Speaker 1: skips in there, a little skippies.
Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy, Like it's got to feel good
Speaker 3: all these years, for all these years later though, like
Speaker 3: you know, we use that word underground and we're talking
Speaker 3: or underrated. Rather we're talking about certain people. There could
Speaker 3: be a whole solar system happened and people don't realize it, right,
Speaker 3: But you have had this fan base that has just
Speaker 3: like always supported like like like throughout whatever you're going through.
Speaker 3: You have that core, that slum American fan base that
Speaker 3: is just I mean, most artists would die to have
Speaker 3: that level of dedication from a group of people.
Speaker 1: That most artists would die to have it, But most
Speaker 1: artists wouldn't put their life in jeopardy like I have
Speaker 1: to eat it to earn it. Yeah, Like it's not
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not an easy route, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, To build your own thing, it just takes
Speaker 1: a lot of time and it takes a lot of
Speaker 1: courage too, you know what I mean. And to dive
Speaker 1: off away from the system and to curate in your
Speaker 1: own way, your own thing. And so I'm extremely fortunate
Speaker 1: to have fell into what, you know, what SLA American is,
Speaker 1: and to create the word and the culture and the
Speaker 1: idea behind it, and for people to understand it. You know,
Speaker 1: at one point we had more people around the world
Speaker 1: with SLA American tattoos before we even printed a shirt
Speaker 1: that says American. It was that serious. People really understood
Speaker 1: it all over the globe. And so now yeah, it's
Speaker 1: we've it's become the umbrella of a lot of amazing things,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, multiple genres. I got people
Speaker 1: coming in like younger, younger artists coming into to Nashville
Speaker 1: and recording records on new talent. Got a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff coming in twenty twenty four. Mant not just my
Speaker 1: double album, but a new new artist, crazy artists like
Speaker 1: you know, I don't co sign a bullshit like crazy artists,
Speaker 1: Country music, hip hop, rock and roll, all of it,
Speaker 1: all all the things that fall up under SLA American.
Speaker 1: I've I'm not going to say found, but I would
Speaker 1: say they have found me, and they have found a
Speaker 1: space where they feel comfortable making music and and and
Speaker 1: the right crew to put it out with because I
Speaker 1: get it, you know, I really truly do get it.
Speaker 1: And yeah it's dope fucking clothing and apparel brand popping.
Speaker 1: I just brought in Manny to do a cutting soul
Speaker 1: Slamaria is gonna have a fashion house, dog fashion house
Speaker 1: and that like the like limited drug well you were
Speaker 1: doing it's like the Bible belt or like this is
Speaker 1: something that this is like, look, we've I've been crawling.
Speaker 1: I still got my ball Mark jacket. Let's go bal Mart.
Speaker 1: Shout out, shout out Stuart Walton, Walton family, some of
Speaker 1: that o G some of that og famous Slamerican.
Speaker 2: Shit, Country Fresh.
Speaker 3: Travis Barker, I still got the white tea and it's
Speaker 3: got you on it with the skeleton face.
Speaker 1: Man. Can I say how much I love I just
Speaker 1: want to say officially how much I love Travis Barker
Speaker 1: and what he did for me, you know, being in
Speaker 1: California and Los Angeles in particular that you know, that
Speaker 1: dude changed my life, you know, like as a big brother,
Speaker 1: especially during my time with Shady. He was he was
Speaker 1: he had my sex man, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like really really carried me around and showed me so
Speaker 1: much not just about music and networking, but.
Speaker 2: Business and owning your own thing.
Speaker 1: So much of Slamerican, of how I built Some American
Speaker 1: was inspired by watching how.
Speaker 2: Travis did it.
Speaker 1: And you watched it from up close. Man, I was
Speaker 1: right there. I saw it, you know, as you know
Speaker 1: when when mixed Maaster Mike Travis to myself and the
Speaker 1: cool kids went out and opened for Nicki Minaj and
Speaker 1: I think Rick Ross, Nicki Minaj, Rick Ross and Low
Speaker 1: Wayne and we were the openers for the show. And
Speaker 1: like we pull up to a city and the whole
Speaker 1: city would be dumped. Every city would already be dumped
Speaker 1: with famous famous everywhere stickers, wheat paste all over the
Speaker 1: fucking city.
Speaker 2: He had like sent his crew out to dump the
Speaker 2: city and then when.
Speaker 1: We showed up, it was already present, and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, it's just brilliant, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, he's just the famous era was like
Speaker 1: a real era.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now he started at dt l A, which is crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh that's his ship, Yeah exactly, I know that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he probably likes that no one knows that
Speaker 1: he's behind it. Well now they do, now they do. Uh?
Speaker 1: You and I haven't talked. Well, we've talked, we've seen
Speaker 1: each other. I hope I got my facts right on that.
Speaker 3: I don't know me too. I guess we'll find out.
Speaker 3: But I went to the Trunk Music three release party.
Speaker 3: It was at a random shithole bar in Sherman Oaks.
Speaker 3: MGK pulled up. It was a moment, Oh yeah, I remember,
Speaker 3: that's that's a night I met Gangster bur on your bus.
Speaker 1: I can't I don't know. I don't know what I
Speaker 1: was thinking, honestly with that party. It was super small, dude. Roll.
Speaker 1: I was like, if I'm gonna go to Oyster House,
Speaker 1: if I'm going to La, I'm gonna do it at
Speaker 1: a dive bar. At the time you're well, at the
Speaker 1: time you're pushing your creek water. Yeah, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a dive bar.
Speaker 1: Fucking l a thing.
Speaker 2: You don't do that ship in Los Angeles. Man, It's
Speaker 2: like it was wild.
Speaker 1: They didn't. It's not. It's that's some Nashville shit, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like Consight's twenty twenty, I would
Speaker 1: have taken it down at least to the Rainbow or
Speaker 1: the Viper Room. Or somewhere somewhere else sunset, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So well, I was gonna say, like
Speaker 1: it was, it was such a big deal. GKA pulled
Speaker 1: up like I was twenty nineteen, right, I was twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Team that I'm dropped.
Speaker 3: But up until that point, like for your fans and
Speaker 3: his fans, like you guys shared so many fans, you
Speaker 3: guys had this weird like few that wasn't really about much,
Speaker 3: you know, Oh it was a gay the MGK thing. Well,
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, can you walk us through how
Speaker 3: you guys ever communicating and forward and all that for
Speaker 3: the fans who don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well MGK was just coming up super young. You
Speaker 1: called him out on my show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, he was coming up. He's
Speaker 2: super young.
Speaker 1: Yeah do you remember that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1: But he was super young. And I was on Warped
Speaker 1: tour at the time, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: part of my stage performance has always been you know,
Speaker 1: throwing water, crowdsurfing, mosh pitting, and he made some kind
Speaker 1: of comment I believe at the time it's like nobody
Speaker 1: needs to be crowdsurfing, moshpitting, throwing or whatever.
Speaker 2: Then this is my shit.
Speaker 1: You know. He trying to claim that. Well, yeah, he
Speaker 1: was young, like you said, Yeah, yeah, he was young.
Speaker 2: And he might not have even been talking about me
Speaker 2: in particular.
Speaker 1: I mean, he may be. It may be somebody else.
Speaker 1: I say in particular a lot these days. It's a
Speaker 1: good thing to say in particular. Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shake it. I'm not saying it for the
Speaker 1: rest of the interview. I'm over it, all right. Well
Speaker 1: so so he so he uh so he made a
Speaker 1: comment and I made my thing.
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, you know what.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I said.
Speaker 1: But he said, say my name, dog, He said, say
Speaker 1: my name. It was like before Walter White said save
Speaker 1: my name. You were in my interview, You're like, say
Speaker 1: my name on a record. It was aggressive. I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I was coming in hot man, you know,
Speaker 1: I was fucking but you guys had this out it,
Speaker 1: you know, I know this thing. And then yeah, So
Speaker 1: I saw him at a trade show like about three
Speaker 1: or four months later. I think it was SR trade
Speaker 1: show actually, as a matter of fact, and uh and
Speaker 1: in LA and I walked up to him.
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, this fool is tall. Tall for
Speaker 2: for sure, and I was like, he was like, yo,
Speaker 2: can we That's the first thing I noticed.
Speaker 1: I like, damn, I'm goin to box this tall asthma,
Speaker 1: Like this is not gonna be go well or is
Speaker 1: it either gonna go really good for me or really
Speaker 1: bad for me? But okay, and so we're gonna I
Speaker 1: just walked up and I was like, I was like, yeoh,
Speaker 1: what up. He was like, hey, man, can we talk?
Speaker 1: I was like yeah.
Speaker 2: And then he was you know, he apologized. I apologize.
Speaker 1: That was it.
Speaker 2: There was nothing else to say, and.
Speaker 1: Time went by. We never did a at that time.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, you know, like honestly, let's just
Speaker 1: do a record, you know, and just squashed this whole
Speaker 1: ship because like my fans were acting stupid for sure,
Speaker 1: real stupid, like putting Slamerican banners on the side of
Speaker 1: his bus and doing dumb shit, you know, taking selfies,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is stupid.
Speaker 2: And this is getting out of hand.
Speaker 1: Like I didn't. I didn't that you're a great guy.
Speaker 1: He's a great guy. It's fun. Yeah, it's all good.
Speaker 1: It's all good. So years later the song came out
Speaker 1: Hard years later.
Speaker 2: DJ Paul says.
Speaker 1: Hey man, we're working on a Trump music. Fucking what
Speaker 1: is it now? Three? Three? It was three?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: How was you want to fuck with?
Speaker 1: Three? I like three a lot. Love three the record
Speaker 1: with Dube's hard as fuck. Yeah, great album. I love
Speaker 1: three threes.
Speaker 2: I thought three was crazy.
Speaker 1: No, I agree.
Speaker 2: Two's got some classics on me.
Speaker 1: Two though, it's just like peak willpower. Well, you know what,
Speaker 1: good point because to me, because because and three will
Speaker 1: power was not fully present because I had will power
Speaker 1: at my house when I think it.
Speaker 3: Was Box Chevy four where he just freaks the instrumental
Speaker 3: for like three minutes at the end, and it's just
Speaker 3: like it was like almost like the closest thing to
Speaker 3: a hip hop solo.
Speaker 1: There is, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We went crazy
Speaker 1: on that one. But no, I love I mean listen,
Speaker 1: I was both appreciate it. Three is amazing, love three
Speaker 1: thank you well.
Speaker 2: DJ Paul was like, you know, we're making rowdy And
Speaker 2: by the way, it was about it. If you bout it,
Speaker 2: say you bout it.
Speaker 1: I'm about it. The city that is about it, about it, No,
Speaker 1: it's about it. But we couldn't get we couldn't we
Speaker 1: couldn't get in contact with Master, Peeve or nothing. Paul
Speaker 1: was just like, man, fuck it color rowdy. Yeah, he goes, hey, man.
Speaker 4: Go get uh.
Speaker 7: He goes go get mg K and eminem and we
Speaker 7: had the craziest record of all time. So he's like, y'all,
Speaker 7: three white boys get out of here. It's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 7: And I was like, that's not a bad idea actually,
Speaker 7: So I recorded it.
Speaker 1: And fucking senate Sena to Marshall and you know, ship
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, Marshall fucking went went crazy on
Speaker 1: on mg k's they had to kill show. I had
Speaker 1: actually think.
Speaker 3: Mg pivots, you know, do my thing, because there was
Speaker 3: I feel like, was there did they? Because that came
Speaker 3: out that was your last album on Shady Right Truck
Speaker 3: Music three?
Speaker 1: Was it? I believe it was? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think so because after that was my independent release
Speaker 2: Ghtto Cowboy.
Speaker 3: Was there any pushback from Shady having MGK the album
Speaker 3: at the time?
Speaker 1: Now, there was no, No. Marshall was all about it. Marshall.
Speaker 1: Marshall like, no, respectfully, I did tap in for sure.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, I ain't fucking not
Speaker 1: a fool jumping off a cliffs. No, I'm not like
Speaker 1: because to be honest, it was like if if you
Speaker 1: if you say no and you say go to war, there,
Speaker 1: let's go. It's it's it's curtains like respectfully on some
Speaker 1: hip hop ships, of course tap in with the sense
Speaker 1: he so I did, and fucking he was like, nah, man,
Speaker 1: like you know, people want to hear that, you know,
Speaker 1: and it just you know, I've always had a lot
Speaker 1: of respect for Marshall obviously, you know, I've looked up
Speaker 1: to up to him for years. That moment was kind
Speaker 1: of like, damn, man, you really give a fuck about me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you really care that
Speaker 1: much to put aside and be like, yeah and let
Speaker 1: me live. Ipect. Knowing that I had invested this before
Speaker 1: I knew this happened, I was just like, man, you're
Speaker 1: man that I got nothing bad to say about Shady
Speaker 1: or that whole time I was there. There's you know,
Speaker 1: we hit our we bumped our heads on the first album,
Speaker 1: you know, like creatively, you know, yeah, I mean I remember,
Speaker 1: but I remember you.
Speaker 3: I mean you recorded most of that Ilum in Vegas,
Speaker 3: all of it, yeah, at Moll's house, and then some.
Speaker 2: Of it in Detroit, like we did Heartbreak in Detroit.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you about heartbreak. Yeah, it's one of
Speaker 3: my favorites. That's probably the best song on that album.
Speaker 3: I like the one with Ritz too.
Speaker 1: I just burped right into the mIRC. It happens when
Speaker 1: you talk for Yeah, No, it's crazy because radioactive to me,
Speaker 1: I remember, you know what it was though, keV, What
Speaker 1: have you seen Wayne's World? Yeah? Of course I know
Speaker 1: most people have. It's kind of rhetorical, but I like,
Speaker 1: but yeah, great, fair enough. But so great movie by
Speaker 1: the way, great movie, by the way. Both is there? Three?
Speaker 1: Is there a thirty? So no, that scene where you
Speaker 1: know they have this crazy underground show and you know it,
Speaker 1: they have their stees and you know, everything's like kind
Speaker 1: of perfect, and they get ripped up and thrown into
Speaker 1: this corporate scene and then it goes the their theme
Speaker 1: music changes. You know, it's all fucking dressed up to
Speaker 1: be pretty and not the same show anymore.
Speaker 8: And that is.
Speaker 2: Exactly what happened to me with my first album.
Speaker 1: Like even.
Speaker 2: My logo got flipped.
Speaker 1: They had an art department at Interscope that fucking changed
Speaker 1: my logo and like put the radioactive symbol and the
Speaker 1: o of yellow Wolf and like orange beanies and like
Speaker 1: just all kinds of weird you know, ship that like
Speaker 1: people think I'm responsible for. So there's so much of
Speaker 1: that that I was just like, what the like wanting
Speaker 1: to flip over tables, you know what I mean, like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck are you doing? Fucking it up? And
Speaker 1: then and then creatively, you know, it was such a
Speaker 1: rat race to be on that album because like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, fucking eminem sound a white boy, What the
Speaker 1: fuck is going on?
Speaker 2: I want to I have to be a part of this.
Speaker 1: And plus, you know, I was buzzing pretty heavy at
Speaker 1: the time with with with Trump music and everything that
Speaker 1: had going on. And then.
Speaker 2: Poop, you know, we had poo Bear in the studio
Speaker 2: whom I loved.
Speaker 1: Happy Birthday, Happy Birthday shouts at audibles too, Happy Birthday,
Speaker 1: shout out to Molly mal you know, wild Era Bear,
Speaker 1: j Dot Kawan, Prather, the whole, the whole Gang Park
Speaker 1: in Vegas House.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was before it was like on MTV
Speaker 3: and people really knew who Mall was. Like that was
Speaker 3: like peak, like mysterious random mansion in.
Speaker 1: The I love Mall the mam man that that that dude,
Speaker 1: he liked My mom came out like look, they became
Speaker 1: like super super Superman. He would fly my mom out
Speaker 1: and just get my like cart my mom around in
Speaker 1: a may box, you know what I mean, Like just
Speaker 1: like with a driver. Dinner with you, your mom and
Speaker 1: him at the Palms one time. Oh my god, that
Speaker 1: was Newport. That was my first big bill. That was
Speaker 1: my first big dinner bill. Mmm, and your name was
Speaker 1: it was It was like seven thousand dollars to feed
Speaker 1: your puckish. Remember it was the first time you had
Speaker 1: your name on the Palm sign up on the Marquee,
Speaker 1: which the Palms Market and it was Palms is that
Speaker 1: ship because there was like rain and there was the
Speaker 1: spot on the fucking roof and yeah, pump man, Me
Speaker 1: and me and Travis bark That was my highest paying
Speaker 1: show was me and Travis Barker New Year's at the Palms.
Speaker 1: I remember teen minutes hommy hunter k that's beautiful. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Let's go me and me and
Speaker 1: fucking there was one of clothing me and Travers was like,
Speaker 1: yup it fucking split that shit up and dip well.
Speaker 1: It was one of the clothing conventions that was in town.
Speaker 1: And that shit don't exist no more. The palms, not
Speaker 1: the money. The money is still there, trust me, no.
Speaker 3: But I remember me and you went to a Travis
Speaker 3: Sweet party and it was like, you know, they were
Speaker 3: just giving away tennis shoes and shit from whatever shoe
Speaker 3: company had. So I left with like, you know, at
Speaker 3: the time, I'm making like twenty five grand a year
Speaker 3: at that shitty Vegas radio station, So I'm like, how
Speaker 3: I can have some I'm walking down the fucking elevator
Speaker 3: with like twelve pairs of shoes to try to fucking sell.
Speaker 1: It, and like all this Famous stars and strap shit,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, cool, this shit's going on. You know,
Speaker 1: I have my own shoe on Famous I think I
Speaker 1: recall that. Yeah, designed it. I drew that motherfucker on
Speaker 1: paper in the back of the bus. And so there
Speaker 1: was an opportunity to extend the deal with Famous. So
Speaker 1: I was like, man, well, I'm down to I'm down
Speaker 1: to do another run. But can I have my own
Speaker 1: like like kind of a sub line, which I was like,
Speaker 1: we'll call it Country Fresh. And then I want a
Speaker 1: shoe deal? Can I get a shoe? I always wanted
Speaker 1: a shoe, So I designed this shoe a red shoe.
Speaker 1: I remember him, you remember I remember they were higher, right,
Speaker 1: they were like a chuck a boot, Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: they had their friends around the back. I remember him.
Speaker 1: I remember him man almost like a ghost face wallaby
Speaker 1: if you will, ish kind of a wallaby, a little
Speaker 1: bit of advanced chuck a boot kind of a wallaby
Speaker 1: and moccasin blend. Yes, hard ass toe box. By the way,
Speaker 1: like the silhouette on this shoe is so sick. And
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I want to say that whoever
Speaker 1: was running famous at the time got fired for that
Speaker 1: shoe because they made too many. They got, they got,
Speaker 1: they got too stoked on it and made too many shoes.
Speaker 1: And but that shoe, it was a unique shoe. Bro Listen,
Speaker 1: it got ripped. Van's got a hold of that design.
Speaker 1: Louis Watan got a hold of that design. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Diamond up, Nick Diamond Diamond got got a hold of
Speaker 1: a little piece of there was like that that friends
Speaker 1: off the back of that shoe.
Speaker 2: It went crazy.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 3: Getting back to the first album, do you feel like
Speaker 3: a record Like's If You were to Move? I feel
Speaker 3: like a record like Let's Roll at that time? Was
Speaker 3: at the time you were getting pushed at urban and
Speaker 3: rhythmic radio, which was like hip hop radio, and it's
Speaker 3: kind of a It was just a hard sell to
Speaker 3: close minded program directors at that time.
Speaker 2: Always art, I'm never not hard, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: If you move forward, like I feel like a lot
Speaker 3: of that ship like that, to me is a record
Speaker 3: that's like nowadays, the genre is ship like really goes.
Speaker 3: It's almost like you know, like I feel like you're
Speaker 3: almost like you were ahead of your you kind of
Speaker 3: fucking ran through bullets so people could walk safely at night.
Speaker 3: When it comes to a lot of this ship, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, I mean, and then I app
Speaker 3: say that a lot of guys will give you that credit.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, thank you, thank you. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll take the flowers, you know, like I know, you know,
Speaker 1: I like if you know, you know, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, walking that line took a lot
Speaker 1: of fucking like I had to make like boss decisions
Speaker 1: at a young artist age, like not not age and
Speaker 1: not age specifically, I just mean like I'm a new artist,
Speaker 1: but I gotta make boss decisions. One of those decisions
Speaker 1: was we were in Harlem to shoot, let's roll the
Speaker 1: whole out. The whole video was shot in Harlem with
Speaker 1: DJ Coolhirk, me, Bob and HERK and a Cadillac around
Speaker 1: around Harlem. By the way, there's an argument going on
Speaker 1: of not not an argument, but a discussion. There's a
Speaker 1: discussion going on. Cool Heirk told me that, you know,
Speaker 1: he created hip hop and and in in this particular neighborhood.
Speaker 1: He you know, he brought the tables Cedric Conceder, right,
Speaker 1: is this is the and then the other the other
Speaker 1: And he told me the whole story. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to go into depth about it, you know whatever, but
Speaker 1: it made a lot of sense to me, Like you know,
Speaker 1: the break beats and the MC's and how he's credited
Speaker 1: as the guy who kind of kicked the ship off
Speaker 1: kind of No, he's credited as the guy like he's
Speaker 1: the guy, he's the inventor of hip hop.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But then Africa ben Bata, right, so there's thing going down,
Speaker 1: you know, but Bob and there's a lot of things
Speaker 1: going down with Africa. The whole time that we're recording
Speaker 1: this video, Bob and and HERK are just going Bob
Speaker 1: is kid rock. By the way, I just called him,
Speaker 1: I feel worried about calling m kid rock every time
Speaker 1: kid rock, kid Rock, kid Rock.
Speaker 2: He said, Bob, it's Bob, It's Bobby.
Speaker 1: So they're going back and forth, you know, with this story,
Speaker 1: and I'm just soaking it up, man, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. We're rolling through Harlem and shit, and it
Speaker 1: was beautiful. But at the end of the edit I
Speaker 1: saw it and I was like, Bro, I'm from Alabama.
Speaker 1: My first single cannot be shot in Harlem.
Speaker 2: It can't.
Speaker 1: I need to shoot the rest of this in Alabama. Somehow,
Speaker 1: no budget, none, zero label says no. I call the director.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying about making boss decisions. I
Speaker 1: called the director. I said, I'll pay you everything that
Speaker 1: I have, please come to Alabama. And I did my
Speaker 1: fucking money, and I did not have a lot of money.
Speaker 1: I spent every three shoot. I think it cost me
Speaker 1: like sixty grand and I may have had like maybe
Speaker 1: seventy thousand dollars in the bank. And I took like
Speaker 1: that sixty and put it direc directly in his pocket.
Speaker 1: And so let's shoot the rest of the ship in Alabama.
Speaker 1: And thank God, because like Bro, that was the part
Speaker 1: that that guided the country rap shit that.
Speaker 3: Was that was to follow, and I think that had
Speaker 3: a lot to do with I don't know if you
Speaker 3: still their part well, I mean obviously being being because
Speaker 3: it was. Wasn't it Alabama's theme song for one of
Speaker 3: their their championship runs or something? I remember seeing it
Speaker 3: on ESPN.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a real funny story about that ship,
Speaker 1: roll Tide. Tell you a real funny story about that
Speaker 1: motherfucking shit. All right, shout to Rollie Willie. Now it's
Speaker 1: roll tiede to the grip because you know, it's a
Speaker 1: birthright when you're from Alabama.
Speaker 2: It's just some shit that you're just born with, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, come on, look, it's.
Speaker 1: Roll Tide, sign hearted Dixie, Alabama. It's getting it so
Speaker 1: recipes Tommy Mitchell, Barbara Mitchell, Barbara Jean so so like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you we had we had this whole like there was
Speaker 1: an importance to that song.
Speaker 2: Let's roll roll.
Speaker 1: Tide, duh, duh, right, match made in heaven. Like but
Speaker 1: even when I wrote it, I didn't think about that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's fucking let's go out and fucking support the Crimson
Speaker 1: Tide at what is it the Iron Bow Iron Bowl
Speaker 1: with Auburn. Yeah, so they're in Tuscaloosa for the Iron
Speaker 1: Bowl and we're gonna go work. Let's roll at the
Speaker 1: Arn Bowl and I pull up, pull up to the
Speaker 1: Ron Bowl and there's a dude, I'm not shipping you
Speaker 1: hanging out of a truck can with a with a
Speaker 1: like the fucking what are the megaphone? Megaphone hanging out
Speaker 1: the truck the side of a truck like a like
Speaker 1: a like a U Haul truck, literally a U Haul truck.
Speaker 1: You're the wolf is in the building outside by the way,
Speaker 1: we're outside, you're the wolf is in the building. You're
Speaker 1: the and like they have let's roll posters about on
Speaker 1: the truck size about the size of this big Lebowski poster.
Speaker 2: Taped in multiple across.
Speaker 1: Do you wow? Innerscope had given this promotional company.
Speaker 2: Money to promote me. They plastered my poster on the
Speaker 2: side of this U haul truck.
Speaker 1: How much they truck and walked around how much hold
Speaker 1: up and walked around I'll get to that, and walked
Speaker 1: and drove around yelling that shit out. But first of all,
Speaker 1: when I saw that the car wasn't even stopping. My
Speaker 1: manager goes, I say, Yo, what what the And I
Speaker 1: fucking I jump out of the car. Where are still rolling?
Speaker 1: And Jaya goes, no, no, no, please please, no no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no, I'm fucking I'm yanking all the posters
Speaker 1: off a fucking fucking take the dude's fucking megaphone out
Speaker 1: of his fucking hand, like, fucking throw that shit on
Speaker 1: the ground, get the fuck out of here. So they had,
Speaker 1: so they probably took about fifteen hundred dollars to pay
Speaker 1: that guy to do that, and then and took the
Speaker 1: other twenty grand, Yeah, and paid for a frat party
Speaker 1: keg party. Well just for people who don't know bow.
Speaker 1: If that's how that works, well, if you're an up
Speaker 1: and coming artist, the number one way that people inside
Speaker 1: of the buildings steal money from artists budgets is the
Speaker 1: street team budget. Yeah, it's all bullshit.
Speaker 3: It's a bullshit like if you if there's still there's
Speaker 3: still labels right now that when an album drops, it's
Speaker 3: in people's deals that fifty k is allocated for street
Speaker 3: team marketing. To this day, I'm talking about major labels,
Speaker 3: and I know people in those buildings that split that
Speaker 3: money between themselves.
Speaker 1: They'll take all your fucking posters and throw them in
Speaker 1: the dumpster and say, yeah, say I ran the streets.
Speaker 1: What you have to do is you got to have
Speaker 1: someone that you like. When we did our ship, we
Speaker 1: what's a fucking phone call right there? And I might
Speaker 1: a sure take that not going to fuck fuck it?
Speaker 1: So oh man, God, that just threw me off of
Speaker 1: what uh okay? So yeah, So I used to work
Speaker 1: for a marketing company when I was a kid. I
Speaker 1: so in in in New York and two thousand. I
Speaker 1: worked for a company called Guerrilla Marketing, and I did
Speaker 1: a lot of hip hop albums during that time. One
Speaker 1: of them was Autobionics for De La Soul. So I
Speaker 1: would go around the streets wearing a space suit in
Speaker 1: New York City, like a full on space like a
Speaker 1: space suit dog. And I painted this big like god,
Speaker 1: I don't know where that that painting, man, if someone
Speaker 1: could find that, holy shit I painted. I painted their
Speaker 1: album cover on a piece of canvas and and I
Speaker 1: would walk around the city, you know, with this suit
Speaker 1: the sign. My other job was to take posters and
Speaker 1: stickers and put them up in all these record stores. Now,
Speaker 1: I did that because I honored day La Soul, you know,
Speaker 1: and I also honored the job of promotion. I understood it,
Speaker 1: you know, and I was loyal. Some of the mother motherfuckers, though,
Speaker 1: they would take like a bag of like day La
Speaker 1: Soul's posters literally on the street, literally and then go
Speaker 1: get pizza, do whatever the fuck they wanted to do.
Speaker 1: You know, you're working from from from noon to to
Speaker 1: seven or eight at night, and they would just clock
Speaker 1: out at eight, and we're like, yeah, I handled that so.
Speaker 3: That that it's worse nowadays, that kind of shit don't
Speaker 3: even exist anymore. The money is just invisible. It's like
Speaker 3: where to go.
Speaker 1: Shit. We don't fuck around though, man, my my, my
Speaker 1: boys are from the streets and have done I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about crime.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about street shit.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about street art, street ship, you know, street promotion,
Speaker 1: like gorilla shit. So when we do shiit, we you know,
Speaker 1: we're on point with it, and like you ain't. You
Speaker 1: ain't slipping up, man, We're tapping in. We know the tricks,
Speaker 1: so you ain't pulling that pulling that shit over here.
Speaker 3: You talked about having that job, wasn't there like a
Speaker 3: year in which you were doing like deep ice fishing.
Speaker 1: Oh you want to hear something crazy on a boat
Speaker 1: somewhere just before we go there, when I was.
Speaker 2: In front of t R L in a fucking spacesuit.
Speaker 1: It's an era. My wife that I would meet years
Speaker 1: later was in Fife. Yes, Fife Dobson was in my
Speaker 1: ex wife. But she's you, guys are it's very coolsher.
Speaker 2: I love Fefe.
Speaker 1: I love her to death.
Speaker 3: I'd like to point out Tennessee Life, one of the
Speaker 3: most fucking emotionally amazing love songs ever my wife.
Speaker 1: I played it my wedding. Yeah, I played this song
Speaker 1: on my wedding.
Speaker 3: It was one of the songs it was like, it
Speaker 3: was like one of the ten songs that I needed
Speaker 3: to play before we came out.
Speaker 1: I should have played it at my wedding. Fucking should
Speaker 1: have fucking wrapped that ship to her face. Maybe my
Speaker 1: marriage would have turned out better. No, nah nah, I
Speaker 1: love Fife to death. She's amazing, Like seriously, all time
Speaker 1: great Canadian listen, all time, great artists, all time, great
Speaker 1: human all time, like the first of her kind in
Speaker 1: so many ways, like artistically just untouched, like just unbelievable.
Speaker 2: So love you Fife.
Speaker 3: If you watch him, she saw me the highest night
Speaker 3: of my life. I tell the story all the time.
Speaker 3: It is the first time I ever really talked to
Speaker 3: a Fifi. You and Ritz were on tour and I
Speaker 3: ate a whole weed brownie that I shouldn't ate, and
Speaker 3: that shit hit me like a fucking.
Speaker 4: Ton of bricks. Dude.
Speaker 1: You know the first song that we did that how
Speaker 1: Fifi and I like hit it off? Animal produced by
Speaker 1: Diplo Crazy on Radioactive and she featured on that record,
Speaker 1: and we hung out and and I didn't realize Diplo
Speaker 1: made that beat. Cannot confirm or deny whether Diplo actually
Speaker 1: made that beat, but let's just say he did. Okay, Nah,
Speaker 1: Diplo is a for goddamn man, dude, Like, I'm sure
Speaker 1: he did make the beat, but sometimes he just produces
Speaker 1: and he don't touch it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking get get it.
Speaker 1: How you live. I'm not mad. He like our friend
Speaker 1: Molly More produce. Yes, Producing doesn't mean okay, this is
Speaker 1: for real, for real, this is for real. Producing does
Speaker 1: not mean that you touch any instrument. Sometimes producing is
Speaker 1: producing the room, producing an artist, facilitating relationships, knowing who
Speaker 1: and who needs to work with one another, and that
Speaker 1: is indeed literally producing. And a lot of the fuckers
Speaker 1: who think their producers are just making loops. So like,
Speaker 1: don't call yourself a producer if you're making a loop
Speaker 1: and you email it to somebody and they then turn
Speaker 1: that into a hit record because they are the people
Speaker 1: who are producing the song. You just made a loop.
Speaker 2: Facts and yeah, for real, loop it.
Speaker 1: Just call yourself a looper. You're a looper? What was
Speaker 1: that movie? Wasn't that? Wasn't there a Bruce Willis movie
Speaker 1: with that was called Looper? It was a Bruce Looper.
Speaker 1: That's a good producer name. No tell me about the
Speaker 1: time though, because you were you were like a fisherman
Speaker 1: right for a little bit. Was this in I was
Speaker 1: insane man night eighteen nineteen Seattle. I was out of
Speaker 1: my goddamn gord. Yeah, dude, I fucking jumped on the
Speaker 1: ground bus five five days up across. Oh my god, bro,
Speaker 1: I was I wasn't gadzed and acting a fool, like
Speaker 1: really really really down bad like you've seen on the flow.
Speaker 1: Of course, that was my life, man. That that that
Speaker 1: if you if you could, that's the easiest way to
Speaker 1: describe with somebody the kind of environment that I was in,
Speaker 1: you know, down to the box chevy. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to go into details for about things that were going down,
Speaker 1: but I would just say that it was fucking it
Speaker 1: was going down.
Speaker 2: So I jumped.
Speaker 1: I jumped on the I jumped on the greyhound bus
Speaker 1: with the thought of getting twenty grand in the season. Somebody,
Speaker 1: somebody like in Aniston, Alabama, was like.
Speaker 2: Yo, man, you can get twenty thousand dollars in one month.
Speaker 1: I was like, twenty thousand dollars, I mean one month
Speaker 1: for what for fishing? Fuck that shit. I'm going to Seattle.
Speaker 1: Let's see what's up with this shit. So I scratched
Speaker 1: up a little bit of change, got on a greyhound bus. Right,
Speaker 1: had my cousin take me to a greyhound bus at
Speaker 1: like midnight in Dothan. There were two buses and they
Speaker 1: both said Washington's keV. You can't make this shuit up.
Speaker 1: One was DC.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The bus I got on was going to UH to
Speaker 1: UH to Washington. So I get on the bus and
Speaker 1: fall asleep like a rock. Wake up in Atlanta, Georgia,
Speaker 1: and I'm like it's the wrong direction. Yes, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: fuck man, like I was, just like, I just told
Speaker 1: my boy Snake, who was who was traveling with me
Speaker 1: at the time, because I had befriended him. I was like, Snake,
Speaker 1: you come with me, Let's go get this bread. So
Speaker 1: he's with me, and I was like, dude, just don't
Speaker 1: get off the bus. If we just act like we're asleep,
Speaker 1: just don't get off the bus. So we did, and
Speaker 1: we waited all the way up to Chicago, where they
Speaker 1: made us get off the bus and I talked to
Speaker 1: that I talked to the managers and we got on
Speaker 1: the wrong bus. He said, in Alabama, how the fuck
Speaker 1: did you figure out you was going the wrong way
Speaker 1: by the time you made it to Chicago. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You know, I fucking hustled him.
Speaker 1: This dude was so cool. He gave me and Snake
Speaker 1: tickets to get all the way to fucking Seattle, but
Speaker 1: we went across the north So in short, we were
Speaker 1: on that bus for five days. I was about to say,
Speaker 1: you saw the whole country by the time we got
Speaker 1: to Chicago. Broke zero money, but we got.
Speaker 3: If that dude didn't give you a break on them tickets,
Speaker 3: you guys, have it fucked not me full, I'm a
Speaker 3: I would have figured it out absolutely.
Speaker 2: I was going to Seattle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we figure it out. I promise you I'm going there,
Speaker 1: so you know I had that determination. So we're broke, right, no, no,
Speaker 1: no money. So we leave Chicago absolutely no money. Now
Speaker 1: greyhound makes a stop at gas stations for the for
Speaker 1: the patrons or the shop what do you call them? Oh, listen, passengers.
Speaker 1: The first time it was a little sketchy. You're like burrito,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you fucking like you know,
Speaker 1: you're kind of racking up a little bit. You get
Speaker 1: on the bus and kind of munching down. Second time
Speaker 1: you're like barrito. Third time you're like, fuck this, Shove
Speaker 1: me a two liter, give me a hat, some fucking jewelry.
Speaker 1: But by the top, dude, by the time we got
Speaker 1: to fucking Seattle, man, like, it got so stupid easy.
Speaker 2: So we ate all the way there. But when I
Speaker 2: landed in.
Speaker 1: Seattle New Year's night, two thousand, snowing, greyhound closes nowhere
Speaker 1: to go on the streets, like sleeping under a church.
Speaker 2: People, and my home boys state was like fucking why
Speaker 2: two k almost.
Speaker 1: Hey, man, okat my grandma, give me a ticket home?
Speaker 2: I said, what this fool left me? Left me by
Speaker 2: one day?
Speaker 1: Five days was a day trip, but after being in Seattle,
Speaker 1: we was less less than twenty four hours. He was
Speaker 1: headed back home to Alabama. I can't do this, I
Speaker 1: was like, bet I'm staying so I fucking like stay
Speaker 1: by myself on the streets for a while and like
Speaker 1: homeless life. Oh yeah, where would you sleep anywhere? I
Speaker 1: could or not sleep at all? Sometimes I feel like
Speaker 1: Seattle right now it would be a good place to
Speaker 1: be homeless right now. I don't know, dude. It's terrible.
Speaker 1: It's terrible. It's the worst. Whether it's the worst, it's
Speaker 1: the worst place to be homeless. Heard, it's lit out there,
Speaker 1: like they got lit. They got the fucking the little
Speaker 1: area that there's like that's what they called it these days.
Speaker 2: That's what the kids are calling.
Speaker 1: Very sad, fucking where you're gonna get your next No, No,
Speaker 1: they got an area there's like no laws. It's like
Speaker 1: it's it's supposed to be kind of like it's like
Speaker 1: Hamsterdam from the Wire. Did you say Hamsterdam? Did you
Speaker 1: ever watch the Wire?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: I never got into it, okay, great shows. Not to
Speaker 1: disappoint anyone. I've never I know.
Speaker 2: People love the Wire, people fucking love fucking.
Speaker 1: I've heard.
Speaker 2: I didn't watch The Wire. I didn't watch a fucking.
Speaker 1: Breaking bad No, really little bit of it. I get bored.
Speaker 2: I get bored. I get watch, but no, get bored.
Speaker 1: I gotta go. Which show was?
Speaker 2: Uh, I've never watched a season of anything until It's gone?
Speaker 5: Was on?
Speaker 1: What show?
Speaker 2: Sons of Anarchy?
Speaker 1: That's it? Great show? Never see like I saw the episode?
Speaker 1: Never seen it. You didn't see the episode your song
Speaker 1: played it? Not a single episode of Sons of Anarchy
Speaker 1: have I ever seen? I'm sure it is. Well, you
Speaker 1: end up going being homeless in Seattle to being on
Speaker 1: a boat. So so I'm on the streets and then
Speaker 1: I started doing like day to days, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: like I had that hustle from Gadston, Like you could
Speaker 1: go up, like you could pull up at four in
Speaker 1: the morning to like a work for hire spot it's
Speaker 1: called work for yeah, and they'll give you something to
Speaker 1: do for the day, whatever it is, yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, and you get a check at the end
Speaker 2: of the day.
Speaker 1: You go cash a check, check cash and spot I
Speaker 1: had that hustle in my back pocket, so I knew
Speaker 1: I could do that. So I started doing that to
Speaker 1: pay for mine. Well, at first it was a hostel.
Speaker 1: You know, I shared bathroom. My publicist is promoting right now.
Speaker 2: This is what he does, songs, that's what he does,
Speaker 2: fucking DJing.
Speaker 1: Over there the work. So no, no, no, So I'm
Speaker 1: doing uh, you know, day to day to first play,
Speaker 1: pay for a hostel, be friend of some other kids,
Speaker 1: my homeboy Lafayette rest in Peace, who came out and
Speaker 1: he was out there randomly too, based on the same
Speaker 1: like dream of that I found him randomly. So we
Speaker 1: just collected our bread from these day to day jobs
Speaker 1: and like would get like a room, two beds, but
Speaker 1: there'll be like seven of us in like a little
Speaker 1: motel or whatever. And then after work every day was
Speaker 1: the hustles, go to the docks, knock on doors, you know,
Speaker 1: they go knock on a voat. So I did that
Speaker 1: up until the point where should I incriminate myself right now?
Speaker 1: I mean it's past the statue limitations, is it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: For sure?
Speaker 3: Was that twenty years ago, twenty five years ago? It's
Speaker 3: a ten year thing. I mean, you didn't murder somebody.
Speaker 1: No, He's like, I can't.
Speaker 2: No, No, I didn't stole a boat, not for real,
Speaker 2: but okay, so this is interesting.
Speaker 1: So one of my hustles as a kid was like,
Speaker 1: if I was hungry, I would, like, you know, I
Speaker 1: would call the pizza man or whatever, and then they
Speaker 1: would pull up and then it was just curtains. Like
Speaker 1: I would just take everything, you know, the food and
Speaker 1: everything you know, and I would just say, like, you
Speaker 1: know whatever, like I used to mask up when I
Speaker 1: was really young, give me, give me, give me the
Speaker 1: fucking tip.
Speaker 2: I've never heard a person in my life, but like it's.
Speaker 1: Just said, extra cheese, motherfucker. I think stealing food is honorable.
Speaker 1: It is honorable. Sometimes you got to steal food like
Speaker 1: Aladdin in the Disney movie.
Speaker 2: So everybody's hungry, and my hotel.
Speaker 1: I still still gum every once in a while, just
Speaker 1: to see if I still got it.
Speaker 2: I don't steal nothing anymore, every boy.
Speaker 1: If I'm in a liquor store, well not a liquor store,
Speaker 1: it's a big chain gas station and the line's crazy,
Speaker 1: and I got one pack of gum, I just I
Speaker 1: just might throw it in my pack.
Speaker 2: Well, yo, I'm out in Seattle.
Speaker 1: Okay. So, like the whole fucking crew is hungry, like
Speaker 1: all seven people that are staying this little room is hungry.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I got it, don't worry, you know.
Speaker 1: And so I called. I called the pizza dude. He
Speaker 1: pulls up and I'm like, man, this is like bold
Speaker 1: as fuck. I'm so over it. I'm like, just give
Speaker 1: me the pizza man, like just you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I lied to him. I said, there's people in the
Speaker 1: bushes over here and there they like, trust me, you
Speaker 1: don't want it, you know. So I like seven pizzas
Speaker 1: and shit walked in there.
Speaker 2: It was life of the party.
Speaker 1: So the next day, next day, my dumb man, I
Speaker 1: walk outside in the same clothes. Now that pizza man
Speaker 1: obviously went back and called the cops. Right, so cop
Speaker 1: rolls by, Like it's in Seattle. They have these like
Speaker 1: crazy like the interstates that they have these big dividers.
Speaker 1: But it's weird because there's no it's like a pull
Speaker 1: off into a gas station. There's no like exit. It's
Speaker 1: like so but they're like one ways, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, one way, this one, like three lanes, this way,
Speaker 1: three lanes this way, split up, split by dividers. This
Speaker 1: cop rolls by and there's two people in his car,
Speaker 1: and he's like and fucking spotlights me as he's rolling by,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this was like two in the afternoon,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I knew exactly, and I was
Speaker 1: in trouble.
Speaker 2: So I fucking run.
Speaker 1: He goes up and I see him making a right term,
Speaker 1: but I know that he has no chance to get
Speaker 1: across to the divider. The divider's too far. Did you
Speaker 1: play Frogger? Yes?
Speaker 2: I played Frogger real life Frogger nice and I won.
Speaker 1: I won it. It was not easy. Almost splat, almost splat.
Speaker 1: Uh So so I run across the media and jump
Speaker 1: the median like went to a like a bus stop.
Speaker 1: Took off my hat I had like a beanie on,
Speaker 1: took off my hat, my hair I had long hair
Speaker 1: like past my waist. Took off my hat, my hair
Speaker 1: found out and passed my wais, took off my jacket,
Speaker 1: threw it in the bushes, and I just sat there.
Speaker 1: I just sit there at the bus stop, and that
Speaker 1: cop rolled right past, didn't didn't put and two together,
Speaker 1: recognized me because I had long ass hair, and I
Speaker 1: wasn't wearing the same ass jacket and all that ship.
Speaker 2: So anyway, I took it so.
Speaker 1: Long the longer. The short is. I got on the
Speaker 1: greyhound bus that day and went to the docks and
Speaker 1: UH got hired immediately. As a matter of fact, they.
Speaker 2: Were like, do you got anybody else? I was like,
Speaker 2: we need to the whole room of people.
Speaker 1: We got seven. They're like, bring them. Did you guys
Speaker 1: make twenty grand?
Speaker 2: No, it was a piece of ship. It was a
Speaker 2: piece of ship.
Speaker 1: The boat that we got on was left by a
Speaker 1: Russian UH, a group of Russian fishermen that lost all
Speaker 1: their money and they left it in Seattle. It got
Speaker 1: bought by this It was a jump boat. We built
Speaker 1: the motherfucker on the way out. Imagine me with a welder,
Speaker 1: did no building this ship? Like you get this welder
Speaker 1: and weld that ship like fucking like out there, like
Speaker 1: like like like making the factory on the way to
Speaker 1: SI while it's going to see like dumping tons of
Speaker 1: rotten fish out of the bow and.
Speaker 2: And trash.
Speaker 1: Captain did that, by the way, that's a fucking ask. No,
Speaker 1: he made us. We fucking so what kind of were
Speaker 1: you guys, just any type of fish?
Speaker 5: Was it?
Speaker 1: Like fucking codfish mostly, and then like somehow a bit
Speaker 1: a lot of illegal ship too, because he was a
Speaker 1: piece of ship. What's in the ocean. You can't fish
Speaker 1: on the season, like so if you like you can't
Speaker 1: go out there and like you're dragging a net across
Speaker 1: the bearing seas, are you gonna get everything? Did you
Speaker 1: guys get it? Like any dolphins? Dude, like dolphins, fucking
Speaker 1: octopuss likes. Oh, the eels are fucked up, brodude, the
Speaker 1: halibits are fucked up. That there was a halibu that
Speaker 1: got on the boat. And you know, we're fucking young fools,
Speaker 1: so we're like wrestling this halibit. We're like fucking having
Speaker 1: challenge and it's fucking this motherfucker jumped on the back
Speaker 1: of his halibet and broke it. Broke his arm, broke
Speaker 1: his arm, It pinned him against one of the fucking
Speaker 1: cleaning things, and like you had to get helicoptered all ship.
Speaker 1: Speaking of fishing, that whole that whole thing is you
Speaker 1: know what I want to do, and you you have
Speaker 1: to tell us where to do it at So me
Speaker 1: and that Mexicano t we went boar hunting in Texas
Speaker 1: out of a fucking helicopter with machine guns.
Speaker 3: It was pretty gnarly. The next thing we want to
Speaker 3: do and it's can we get some liquor? It's inspired liquor,
Speaker 3: liquor extra quicker. It's inspired by what I saw you
Speaker 3: doing with uh was his name, Rambo, your boys mboy,
Speaker 3: the guy with the pet fucking possum.
Speaker 1: But you guys were noodling.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, you don't want no parts of that.
Speaker 1: It's not fun because we're thinking like we're like, yo,
Speaker 1: we gotta do another YouTube video where we go where
Speaker 1: we go fishing or something. And I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: I remember yellow If used to noodle and he would
Speaker 1: fucking get on his fucking knees and you'd grab the
Speaker 1: catfish out of the mud. You know what I realized, man,
Speaker 1: about myself is that, you know, a lot of that
Speaker 1: ship is just like yeah, I'll do it because I
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2: The other part is.
Speaker 1: I'm too boogie for that ship. I don't want to
Speaker 1: fucking do that ship. Like dude, Like dude, i'd do
Speaker 1: like one thing, you know, and like I'm like, man, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: I'll buy my attacks of durmy, I ain't gonna go
Speaker 1: sit in the woods in the fucking in the cold,
Speaker 1: and and like you know, there's a there's this whole
Speaker 1: thing in country, in the South, in particularly, they always
Speaker 1: want to tap in on how country you are, how
Speaker 1: you wait country.
Speaker 2: You don't do this, you don't do that.
Speaker 1: Liken't fucking don't test me, mother. I get out there
Speaker 1: and get bucked with yours, trust me, But I don't
Speaker 1: like it. I'm cool. You've also gotten to the point
Speaker 1: in life where you know you're like, hey, I've done it,
Speaker 1: thank you. I didn't make noodling a habit. Look, okay,
Speaker 1: imagine this all right, And to some people this is okay.
Speaker 1: People don't know. Noodling is catching catfish by you're going
Speaker 1: to describe it, okay, Noodling is when you let's just say,
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone who's watching has ever seen
Speaker 1: like a boat dock. It's like a met It's like
Speaker 1: a concrete boat dock that goes into a river or
Speaker 1: a lake. Right, you've seen them. They they they that's
Speaker 1: how they get their boats into the water. You back
Speaker 1: your truck hand or whatever. Right, so they're all over
Speaker 1: the rivers and ship. So up underneath that this is
Speaker 1: just one place to noodle. There's a lot of place
Speaker 1: of noodles. But where I was taken was a boat
Speaker 1: dock or a boat ramp, boat ramp, boat ramp, My bad.
Speaker 1: So up under that boat ramp there's a gap, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, where like the water and the
Speaker 1: mud and the tide and the fucking current has has
Speaker 1: built a gap. And catfish like to go and bed
Speaker 1: down in places they can hide, right, and if anything
Speaker 1: comes in that particular space, they eat it, you know,
Speaker 1: like they just like It's like it's like you imagine
Speaker 1: going into a cave and you're like, oh, you just
Speaker 1: ate up, you know, Like that's how they do it,
Speaker 1: you know. But so you use your hands as a bait. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's just your hand is just interference to its space.
Speaker 1: It's not hungry for your hand. It's just like, get
Speaker 1: the fuck out of what the fucker what is this?
Speaker 1: The thing is is to bite your hand. You pull
Speaker 1: it out, right, Okay. So Cambo is like fucking put
Speaker 1: your fucking hand in there and fucking pull him out.
Speaker 1: He'll go under water and he comes back and goes
Speaker 1: like I got one.
Speaker 2: There's one in there, and I'm like, dog for real.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, there's one in there. It's big too,
Speaker 1: get out in there. And I'm like, fuck, I'm already committed.
Speaker 1: There's cameras browling this ship. I'm like, fuck. Fuck.
Speaker 2: So I go up under the water and stick.
Speaker 1: My hand down in that hole and I feel this
Speaker 1: slimy bastard's fucking I'm like, ah, I goes. I can't
Speaker 1: do it, can't do it, can't do it. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: He's like, nah, just fucking do it. I fucking did it, man.
Speaker 1: I fucking got down in there. Let him. The sensation
Speaker 1: of an animal biting you, biting you on the hand
Speaker 1: is not a good talk. Fuck, take me to the camper,
Speaker 1: give me my fucking saint lawns. I'm fucking out of here.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 1: Let me know when it's give me my cowboy boots
Speaker 1: played when it's called nice clean truck. I ain't trying
Speaker 1: to take my ship, Motherbo out of here. I just
Speaker 1: that was a real moment for me.
Speaker 2: I've did a lot with Cambo, though, anything Cambo.
Speaker 1: Would do, I would do, such a sick following ig
Speaker 1: walk walk a swamp with him, do anything he wanted
Speaker 1: to do because I'm about it. I'm about it. If
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna fucking like didn't try to get him
Speaker 1: a TV show or wasn't there TV show being worked.
Speaker 2: On, I gave him a TV show.
Speaker 1: I got him two million dollars bro crazy, I'm two
Speaker 1: million dollars, two million dollar budget under.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did it.
Speaker 1: It's a thing.
Speaker 2: He was making like five bands of show.
Speaker 1: He spent it all on guns and truck parts. Went
Speaker 1: Bro love you, Cambo Truth, truth, dark Truth, what a
Speaker 1: truth Dart? Truth Dart. We call him. Hit you with
Speaker 1: the truth. He knows it. He don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: I love him. He knows what he did. I was
Speaker 1: gonna ask you. He built like a shack on the
Speaker 1: river with fucking like old cabin wood and built the fire. Dude.
Speaker 2: These fools were like he was so crazy, man.
Speaker 1: This fool was like he was like, oh man, watch this,
Speaker 1: and fucking like he would let people like shoot guns
Speaker 1: off his head with like a twenty two Like I
Speaker 1: don't remember following him, and I'd be uneasy with some
Speaker 1: of the shit. He was like shoot beer cans off
Speaker 1: of each other's heads with like twenty two's and shit,
Speaker 1: no that's missed.
Speaker 2: That boy was about it, about it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like Ben here, Ben Trull's.
Speaker 3: It's interesting because I feel like, you know, like you said,
Speaker 3: you're not like super paying attention to every single thing
Speaker 3: that goes on into.
Speaker 2: Not even super barely barely right, No.
Speaker 3: But I do wonder, like, you know, I feel like
Speaker 3: when you first came out, it felt like there was
Speaker 3: this scramble to be like the the white rapper right
Speaker 3: as opposed to like just being another rapper, because at
Speaker 3: that time it was like Eminem and then whoever was next,
Speaker 3: and then it was like at the time, it felt
Speaker 3: like there's only room. It's almost like the female rapper
Speaker 3: thing that happened for a while when Nikki had the
Speaker 3: crown for so long, and now there's this female But
Speaker 3: nowadays it feels like the white rapper thing has finally
Speaker 3: kind of went away in terms of like if someone's dope,
Speaker 3: they're just.
Speaker 1: Dope, like like have you noticed that? And then also
Speaker 1: on the other end of it, there's this like really dark,
Speaker 1: like weird sub genre of like white boy. Well, I
Speaker 1: just I just want to speak on female rappers for
Speaker 1: a second. Hold up, Bahamadia was amazing, Lady Bug from
Speaker 1: Diggable Planets, uh Rodga, Lady of Rage. Thanks, Gangsta boob
Speaker 1: rest in Peace, Yes, thank you so much, and fucking
Speaker 1: like Lauren Hill, Queen Latifa, Yes, thank you. Like I'm
Speaker 1: not sure Foxy Brown course, yeah, do we say that, Brad,
Speaker 1: We said it's right, right yeh boss.
Speaker 4: Ooh.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck, not a single fuck, not
Speaker 1: a single solitary fuck, remember that shit? Dude? Come on?
Speaker 1: Uh so, like I I'm not sure where like the
Speaker 1: culture forgot, but you know, uhr Jazzy Joyce, DJ Jazzy Joyce,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, come on, man, like
Speaker 1: they've they've.
Speaker 2: Always been present and I don't know.
Speaker 3: There was that era which was amazing, but I feel
Speaker 3: like I feel like in like the twenty tens, it
Speaker 3: felt like there was It was a little harder if
Speaker 3: you weren't Nikki to have a spot. But nowadays women
Speaker 3: run hip hop like like, I don't know how much
Speaker 3: you pay attention, but now the biggest records are all
Speaker 3: women artists and there's not like, oh, she's the chick
Speaker 3: of the crew or she's the chick. Uh you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: we gotta sign a girl. Like you know, back in
Speaker 3: the day, every crew have like a female, the first
Speaker 3: lady of whatever label you had. Now days it's like
Speaker 3: all of the women in hip hop are literally.
Speaker 1: Oh and also, I say, Blondie, you want to talk
Speaker 1: about first white rappers? Blondie the Rapture, Yeah, the Rapture, Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, if you really want to go there, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like so like I mean like
Speaker 1: like it's just like the the press. I don't it's
Speaker 1: hard for me to digest, like ignoring the presence that's
Speaker 1: always been there and then saying, oh, now it's this,
Speaker 1: now it's that. So like what as far as white
Speaker 1: rappers go, I was just raised on like real shit,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And for the brief time
Speaker 1: that I was a kid, and I was a fan
Speaker 1: of Vanilla Ice, right, and then I saw him get
Speaker 1: called out and then third base called him out and
Speaker 1: then and then all of a sudden, exactly search so
Speaker 1: and so I was like, oh fuck, I kind of
Speaker 1: I caught the okie doke on that one, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I kind of got like played, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Then he got on our senior
Speaker 1: hall and it was a real rap for me, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And but I had like white
Speaker 1: rappers around my neighborhood, like Eric mcinally the South Side hustler,
Speaker 1: you know that at the time, was like a real
Speaker 1: dope boy, a real street guy, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that had like real records on the streets, a white boy.
Speaker 1: But you know, in Antioch at that particular time, it
Speaker 1: was like there was a lot of that shit going on.
Speaker 1: You know, that white boy's rolling around my neighborhood with
Speaker 1: gold teeth and corn rolls that didn't give a fuck
Speaker 1: about being a rapper, right There wasn't about hip hop.
Speaker 1: It was just about what they did and who they were,
Speaker 1: and so they would tap in and so you really
Speaker 1: had to check out, you know, like when you're coming
Speaker 1: around a neighborhood that listened to fucking eight ball, MJG
Speaker 1: three six, Mafia, Suave House, you know, like that's kind
Speaker 1: of that runs the gamut, you know around the Tennessee
Speaker 1: Sound at the time. Uh, you really had to tap
Speaker 1: in and and and there was no one really doing it,
Speaker 1: you know. So when I was around again, like hustling flow,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you talk about nineteen ninety seven
Speaker 1: at the Atrium, me pulling up you know, to see
Speaker 1: through six Mafia and Mystic may be crazy. It was
Speaker 1: fucking crazy. But let me tell you white boys nowhere
Speaker 1: nowhere like I, you know what I mean, Like I
Speaker 1: didn't see ninety, I didn't see any you know, not
Speaker 1: that I was looking, but it's noticeable, like okay, whatever,
Speaker 1: But you know it's like but and whom I came with,
Speaker 1: you know, or my family, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: people that I grew up in my neighborhood with.
Speaker 2: So I was kind of cut from a different crop,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: I started with my verses in the streets, like you know,
Speaker 1: like in the projects, like really out of box chevyes,
Speaker 1: like pulling up to like like like lodges, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like like like the Elks Lodge two
Speaker 1: thirty one, you know, like that type ship like and
Speaker 1: like not rap battling per se, but but just circle,
Speaker 1: like a circle of rappers, you know, back in the day,
Speaker 1: fucking like when I was coming up you and fucking
Speaker 1: you know, dis somebody you get slapped up, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like just wrap your ship, you know,
Speaker 1: don't well you don't diss me, you know, like just
Speaker 1: tell your tell your thing, and it was move on.
Speaker 1: It was Cadillac shit, you know yeah, like like recipes
Speaker 1: like Pimpseason, like these country rap tunes, you know, so
Speaker 1: get in there, you know what I mean. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of the world that I grew up in. And
Speaker 1: so I was raised, you know, like come on man,
Speaker 1: like you know, having to go to Bankhead and Bankhead,
Speaker 1: Georgia and Bessemer Birmingham, Alabama, like popping the trunk on
Speaker 1: the Chevy and selling selling tapes out of my out
Speaker 1: of my box Chevy at the gas station and Bessemer
Speaker 1: like dolo, you know, just so the white boy thing
Speaker 1: was of course I was aware, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: like I felt, I always felt.
Speaker 2: I felt uh worthy, I felt worthy.
Speaker 1: I mean, you were a hip hop for real, yeah, respectfully. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, because I had already dug dug down in
Speaker 1: the graffiti scene, the b boys scene, the skateboarding scene.
Speaker 1: You know, this is me like as a kid, like
Speaker 1: doing the like the promotion for the Daylight Soul, and
Speaker 1: now I had had bumped down, back down it back
Speaker 1: down to Alabama after kicking it in Harlem with Pete Rock,
Speaker 1: you know, and and and like I had all this,
Speaker 1: all these things going on in the hip hop world
Speaker 1: that I carried back into Alabama because and you're.
Speaker 3: Doing and you're and you and you're I mean, the
Speaker 3: thing is is like rac aside, like if you're gonna
Speaker 3: move with integrity and like high artistic value in this game,
Speaker 3: like you know, that's why you've had the longevity you've had,
Speaker 3: Like you know, it's it's it feels like a lot
Speaker 3: of the ship that I'll see nowadays in like this
Speaker 3: weird like sub genre like underbelly of like what you
Speaker 3: would call white hip hop is like just weird.
Speaker 1: Short term pandem Is it even a thing?
Speaker 5: Though?
Speaker 1: It's a thang, bro, It's a thang for sure. White
Speaker 1: hip hop is a thing that the fucking the like
Speaker 1: there's like a little like weird little fucking pocket bro
Speaker 1: where motherfucker's is like is it like it has it been?
Speaker 2: Like has it has it?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 2: So there's a whay do I fall in that in
Speaker 2: your opinion? If you could say, like, oh.
Speaker 1: I think you're I think I think that you're perceived
Speaker 1: to be like bigger than that whole, like an artist,
Speaker 1: an actual art fucking like yeah, like a real artist. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think that's why you know, that's tough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean, lookten, dude, at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, like there there's you know, I think longevity
Speaker 3: is the key.
Speaker 1: You know, You've you've had twenty five years.
Speaker 3: If you go back to when you were on that
Speaker 3: fucking TV show, when you were contestant on that TV show,
Speaker 3: was hear me.
Speaker 2: Shock the world right now?
Speaker 1: Go ahead? I'm not really white? What are your native? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm part Native American, Blackfoot, and Cherokee. I'm not a
Speaker 1: full blooded white boy. The reason why I took on
Speaker 1: the whiteboard, Moniker, is because I was called a white boy.
Speaker 1: That's it. And if I'm called that and you want
Speaker 1: me to be that, then I'm gonna use it to
Speaker 1: my strength. I'm not a fucking Caucasian from the Caucasus
Speaker 1: mountains with not from fucking Norway, dog like like I
Speaker 1: grew up in the gutter of Alabama, you know, part
Speaker 1: Native American, you know, And that's what yellow Wolf is. Idiot, Like,
Speaker 1: come on, you couldn't see past that. You think I
Speaker 1: got red tattooed on my neck because I'm a red neck.
Speaker 1: I got red tattooed on my neck because that's what
Speaker 1: you said. It was ironic. It was ironic tattoo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what you said. That's the If you put that
Speaker 1: stereotype on me, then I'm gonna run with it. And
Speaker 1: you know, but you know I but then it became affectionate,
Speaker 1: like oh, white boy, white boy, white boy, white boy.
Speaker 1: I fuck it. I used to get pissed. When I
Speaker 1: was a kid, was like fifteen, sixteen years old.
Speaker 2: It was fight music.
Speaker 1: If you said that to me, well, I feel like
Speaker 1: you carried like a boulder.
Speaker 3: On your shoulder against all the other white rappers for
Speaker 3: like at least a few years when you first came out, Well,
Speaker 3: it just became like if you like, if like And
Speaker 3: then Mac Miller happened, and Mac Miller was like, this
Speaker 3: is Mac Miller.
Speaker 1: He's like the coolest dude ever. Like, we love Mac.
Speaker 1: Mac was the best. Mac is the best dude. I'm
Speaker 1: rest in peace, man. I just took this down, and
Speaker 1: I gotta hate it somewhere else.
Speaker 2: I love Max so much.
Speaker 1: When Mac passed, dude, I was so hurt from that
Speaker 1: that I gave away everything I owned. That's a true story.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, explain. I gave away every article of clothing
Speaker 1: that I owned when Mac when Mac passed the next day,
Speaker 1: just because I felt like I needed to do something nice, like.
Speaker 2: Dude, that kid.
Speaker 1: I mean, no one really knew how cool he and
Speaker 1: I really were because we didn't do music, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But like that kid was like.
Speaker 1: When we first kicked it, he it was the cipher.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even a cipher. It was like a freestyle
Speaker 1: for the Double Excel cover, right, so like everybody did,
Speaker 1: everybody had their verse, right yeah, and Mac, dude, he
Speaker 1: might have been god nineteen.
Speaker 2: I mean he was young a kid.
Speaker 1: He was a kid for real.
Speaker 9: And I pulled a cigarette out and like we were
Speaker 9: chilling his lip. He's like, oh, that's what we're doing,
Speaker 9: you know. He pulled a cigarette and he bucking lit
Speaker 9: a cigarette up. Oh like and it was like a
Speaker 9: very like a like affectionate kind of like like almost
Speaker 9: an instant big brother role, you know what I mean,
Speaker 9: Like all right, dude, like let's go.
Speaker 1: You know, I see you, you know. And he went
Speaker 1: on to make incredible music, obviously amazing time music, and uh,
Speaker 1: like we've done tours together, dude, shows like fucking I've
Speaker 1: done shows with Mac and the Swiss Alps bro like
Speaker 1: like we were. That was my homie. Man.
Speaker 2: So anyway, when he passed.
Speaker 1: And I had just text him like weeks before, just
Speaker 1: tapping in, you know what I mean, And when he passed,
Speaker 1: I was like, Man, I'm just I just need to
Speaker 1: I need to purge, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: I've got too much. You know, I've got too much.
Speaker 1: I have too many things, like I didn't feel worthy of.
Speaker 1: Sometimes having too much shit can bog you down mentally,
Speaker 1: too nah for real. So I just took all my
Speaker 1: ship and put it on hangers and set it outside
Speaker 1: my store and I told everybody I put it on Instagram,
Speaker 1: come get it. You come get an outfit, you know,
Speaker 1: like jewelry, hats, shoes, clothes, everything I gave away, like man,
Speaker 1: I don't know like one hundred thousand dollars worth of
Speaker 1: fucking fashion, just dumped it all and started over, started
Speaker 1: my my collection.
Speaker 3: Over Rest in Peace, Man, Rest in peace to Mac.
Speaker 3: Before we wrap, I want to go through a couple
Speaker 3: of quick hits. One would be uh one Train, which
Speaker 3: is one of the most probably the last great hip
Speaker 3: hop posse cut.
Speaker 1: We've gotten you murdered it obviously, what was when you
Speaker 1: got it? Did you know who was on it? No,
Speaker 1: here's the beat. Do what you do? So ASA sent
Speaker 1: me the track like per Rocky, Yeah, send me the
Speaker 1: track personally.
Speaker 2: Through a text, and uh.
Speaker 1: So I jumped on it like of course, like whatever,
Speaker 1: like we you know, and look, I don't do features
Speaker 1: because I I think there's some kind of win or
Speaker 1: some kind of that's that's never the thing. I really
Speaker 1: have to like the track. I like the track one two.
Speaker 1: It was my boy, you know, we we had been
Speaker 1: through Europe and doing shows together and ship like that,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I hopped on it. I had no
Speaker 1: clue what he had planned or what was in his
Speaker 1: back pocket. Now had I known, you would have a
Speaker 1: different raisier, like if I could size up. But I'm
Speaker 1: sure everyone thought that, you know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 1: sure every maybe he did that to everyone. He probably did,
Speaker 1: and which is genius. But when I heard everyone else's verse,
Speaker 1: I was like, ooh, the is going crazy. Who do
Speaker 1: you think if you remove yourself from the equation? Who
Speaker 1: had no?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: I your favorite? Even with myself in the equation, Big
Speaker 1: Critt killed it, krit crit like come on, man, Like
Speaker 1: I was like Krik killed it period. I mean that's
Speaker 1: just my opinion. I mean, I love my verse. I
Speaker 1: think I snapped on majority and like, you know, I
Speaker 1: say that like in the sport of hip hop, you know,
Speaker 1: the competition between all MC's and shit, like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I got created on that one.
Speaker 2: But the truth is, like I really feel like he
Speaker 2: closed it properly.
Speaker 3: Segueing to the next thing, why did we never get
Speaker 3: country cousins between you and grit.
Speaker 1: And did it?
Speaker 4: Did it?
Speaker 1: Was there ever any songs recorded for that?
Speaker 2: Well at the height of like you know, just like
Speaker 2: at the height of.
Speaker 1: There are some like cultural and there's there's a cultural
Speaker 1: importance to a project like me and Krick coming together, right,
Speaker 1: you know, And I think that there there there's a
Speaker 1: time and a place for that. I don't make excuses
Speaker 1: about why we haven't done that project yet, and I
Speaker 1: can't predict when we might do that project because I
Speaker 1: won't put it off the books. I love crit I'm
Speaker 1: a huge, huge fan. Obviously, he was early early on
Speaker 1: and the crew, you know what I mean, like early
Speaker 1: early like Tree Sound, Tree Sound Atlanta early, and uh
Speaker 1: so I just let it happen, you know. But I
Speaker 1: think that there's like, I think that he and I
Speaker 1: both appreciate the importance of what that record means. It's
Speaker 1: not it's not just not just the collaboration. I think
Speaker 1: that there's some artistic cultural importance to that particular collaboration.
Speaker 1: Sure that means something, and I think it needs it needs.
Speaker 1: I mean because Krit was hearing trunk music was the
Speaker 1: same year. Yeah, because you could take it lightly. But
Speaker 1: the record we did, the record, the record we did
Speaker 1: do Happy Birthday hip Hop amazing as a statement record.
Speaker 3: How's your relationship these days with our psychopathic friend Ritz
Speaker 3: over there?
Speaker 1: I got his plaques over there, our psychopathic friend. I
Speaker 1: love Rich to the to the grit. Rich is my
Speaker 1: Rich is my dog. I mean, you know, hey, man,
Speaker 1: he's a maniac. Artists is going to be artists man like,
Speaker 1: and I'm a maniac too. I just have you eat
Speaker 1: your maniacs, by the way, in your own way, like
Speaker 1: my dad said. My dad said, everybody has their own
Speaker 1: brand of crazy, you know, and that's what's up. You know,
Speaker 1: Like I like my crazy. I feed it and take
Speaker 1: care of it, you know. Like I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: like when Rich is like able to like I'm.
Speaker 2: Trying to get him to sing.
Speaker 1: keV No, he could sing. He can't sing, but it's
Speaker 1: come to Nashville and record a singer songwriter album with me. Please,
Speaker 1: I'm putting it on the record. I've told you that
Speaker 1: over the phone. Now I'm saying in the podcast. I've
Speaker 1: been trying to all the fans that are watching, Yo,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear you rap no more. I
Speaker 1: want to hear some singing. BRIT's time singing, Buddy, time
Speaker 1: to sing with a little bit of rapping. And I
Speaker 1: want him to do like a He's a great singer,
Speaker 1: he is. He could sing his ass off. He's always
Speaker 1: been singing as he could play the guitar like a
Speaker 1: motherfucker too. By the way, Yeah, yeah, like crazy, let's
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's do a fucking secret songwriter album man
Speaker 1: like do something different, No, for.
Speaker 3: Sure, shout out to ritz Man Albums coming out in May.
Speaker 3: How many videos are in the can?
Speaker 1: Five? I already got five? Okay? Is that? Are you
Speaker 1: gonna keep shooting if it feels right or we'll see
Speaker 1: what like, We're gonna shoot five videos right and just
Speaker 1: from the from the pat just learning releases and ship
Speaker 1: like I want to like, I want to let the
Speaker 1: fans tell us, like, Hey, if this song goes fucking
Speaker 1: crazy takes off, shoot a video to this, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just let us know, Like, let us know what
Speaker 2: you want to see.
Speaker 1: We've picked our personal faves and what we thought led
Speaker 1: led you into a war story the best way. But
Speaker 1: after that, I really do want to listen and and
Speaker 1: basically like kind of take a poll, you know, like
Speaker 1: what do you want to see next? Because I've fucked
Speaker 1: up so many times by not shooting videos to songs
Speaker 1: that I should have. Catfish Billy, Oh such a good Hey,
Speaker 1: Tennessee love no video. You know, it's funny. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of classics with no Videofish Billy.
Speaker 3: I just think of like this fucking boat floating with
Speaker 3: all your belongings in like a dark like I think
Speaker 3: of like a fucking lantern, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like that's probably the best mash pit song. Fucking dude,
Speaker 3: that song makes me want to fuck motherfucker's up.
Speaker 10: Bro.
Speaker 3: That's like my workout joint, bro. Like Halffish Billy. And
Speaker 3: when you perform that shit live violence.
Speaker 1: Dude, fucking sick Yes, Savagery Savagery tour coming unless uh nah, listen, man, maybe.
Speaker 2: Got clever back. Oh Doodle is back?
Speaker 1: All right? I did on the fucking new record is crazy, dude,
Speaker 1: when I let are you pressed for time? No?
Speaker 3: I mean no ever find we can keep going. Fuck
Speaker 3: off that Mexican Ot might walk in here, But that's fine.
Speaker 2: Mexican Ot is coming. That's my dog, man.
Speaker 1: What's up? I'm you guys, dude. I fucking love that guy.
Speaker 1: He told me to keep you late. He was like,
Speaker 1: if I'm on a four, make sure he stays. I
Speaker 1: want to say hi to him. Man, I'm not leaving, good, good,
Speaker 1: I'm not leaving.
Speaker 2: I have to meet this guy in person. I'm fucking
Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan of.
Speaker 1: To meet him. Okay, so we got time, go ahead.
Speaker 1: So I'm so psyched to meet Mexican Ot. Man, he's sick.
Speaker 3: I'm distracted by the you meet his dad to his
Speaker 3: dad's fucking great, dude, we were at the talk, we
Speaker 3: were at the taco truck last night and his dad
Speaker 3: knocks some fucking dude the fuck out there is this
Speaker 3: drunk maniac. He was chugging Mickey's outside of the Taco
Speaker 3: truck and he kept doing then the Hitler salute.
Speaker 1: And fucking he was talking to nitler Ler.
Speaker 3: And Chuck warned him like twenty times, even gave him
Speaker 3: half of his food to go away, and the dude
Speaker 3: stepped to him one more time and he fucking slapped him,
Speaker 3: and we're like, all right, well it's time to walk off.
Speaker 1: Go fuck with Dad's strength, man, No, his dad's a
Speaker 1: fucking rock. Dad's strength is this dude is like he
Speaker 1: looks like the rock, Like he looks like a professional.
Speaker 3: Rest But even if he wasn't, you don't withd no
Speaker 3: for sure strength And he's got like a certain other
Speaker 3: type of strength starts with arm.
Speaker 1: Can't say it anymore, Royd's strength. Oh is that the
Speaker 1: R word? It could be? You can't say anymore. I
Speaker 1: don't we just did?
Speaker 2: Have I been that checked out? I think it's the
Speaker 2: word I'd like back.
Speaker 1: I don't mind. I don't mind it. How about this one?
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's up to whether we find it.
Speaker 1: How about this one?
Speaker 2: You fucking that fool's got franks? Let me not be insensitive.
Speaker 1: Sure I'm not, I'm not. Okay, listen whatever, dude, it's like,
Speaker 1: save it canceled, card been canceled? How about that? Uh?
Speaker 1: Where are we going with this, I said, Clevers back
Speaker 1: in the due said, you don't even know. You don't
Speaker 1: even know. I got the crazy story for you. Okay, look, yo,
Speaker 1: when I talk to my friends, I'm talking to my friends.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I know we're filming and ship's going on, but I
Speaker 1: don't like whatever. It's like we'll be kicking it with pain.
Speaker 1: We're just doing whatever. Okay, So we land in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Is from Atlanta. Yeah, we're going to New Zealand. This
Speaker 1: fool gets arrested clever, Yeah, police are waiting by the plane.
Speaker 2: Now I have a whole This is me going down
Speaker 2: to do the festival in New Zealand.
Speaker 1: And not sure what happened, but there was a confrontation
Speaker 1: with a passenger on the way and that particular passenger
Speaker 1: was a lawyer. So this is a lawyer called L A. P. D.
Speaker 1: And they they drag my boy out, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, put him in a wheelchair, push him
Speaker 1: out the airport, like Hannibal Lecter. I'm on the way to.
Speaker 2: Fucking New Zealand.
Speaker 1: I got no DJ, and I'm like, I like, Zilla,
Speaker 1: looks like you're DJ and doll you better fucking laptop,
Speaker 1: that shit fucking press play one one finger Jones, hit Intern,
Speaker 1: hit Intern, hit space bar Innerarenter. I've had to do
Speaker 1: it before warped tour, So like fucking lost my DJ.
Speaker 1: Didn't know what the fuck was gonna happen, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I thought he was gone, like forever,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Not forever.
Speaker 2: I thought I thought he was gone. I was like, dude,
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna I'm not gonna see him in New
Speaker 1: Zealand for sure. For sure, Delta xes him out of
Speaker 1: the whole situation. I mean they're like, get him off
Speaker 1: the property type ship. Uh, my friend Stefan Janowski, this
Speaker 1: guy he's got his own Nike.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking pro lifer. He's the best I cost that fire.
Speaker 1: I'm like, please pull up Stefan and Jessica love y'all,
Speaker 1: please pull up and get my friend. And he's he
Speaker 1: needs to ride an airport or he's going he needs
Speaker 1: to ride to the hotel. He's going to jail. Police
Speaker 1: were like, yo, since somebody get him whor he's going
Speaker 1: to jail, So like, ah, we got you, Like, dude,
Speaker 1: this New Year's night. They're like chilling out the crib
Speaker 1: and they and they go get him like real friends,
Speaker 1: like real friends, go get them taken to the hotel.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he woke up the next.
Speaker 1: He was fucking hammered, hammered.
Speaker 2: He was hammered before we let that land.
Speaker 1: Uh, Nashville. We're drinking on the plane.
Speaker 2: Oh bro, Delta lounge.
Speaker 1: The plane drinking.
Speaker 3: It hits different, especially when you land and go to
Speaker 3: stand up and you're like, oh fuck.
Speaker 2: But anyway, we uh we we got him back. We
Speaker 2: flew him out coach.
Speaker 1: So when he made it, we flew coach. He made it.
Speaker 2: We flew coach to New Zealand.
Speaker 1: Dude, Okay, look what is that is that like New Zealand?
Speaker 1: No full thirty six hours It took me to get
Speaker 1: from Nashville to New Zealand. All right, so god, it's
Speaker 1: torture like coach Middlese that's, oh my god, for a
Speaker 1: day and a half. Fun. But like he he he
Speaker 1: ended up making it, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: we pulled off the shows and ship. But yeah, like arrested,
Speaker 1: arrested upon arrival. Now he's he's moving back to Nashville.
Speaker 1: He actually moved back to Nashville, and he's from Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Where's he from? Atlanta? Georgia. Man Atlanta's finest bro one
Speaker 1: of the greatest DJs. Man no scratch DJ, and I
Speaker 1: put that, I'll put that on everything for the record.
Speaker 1: And you've had some great DJs. You had Chris Curran,
Speaker 1: you had the what was fucking your o G DJ?
Speaker 1: The guy who was Latin was not for.
Speaker 2: The record, And this is like, this is just healthy competition.
Speaker 1: Like any dj MC combo that wants to battle, I'm
Speaker 1: up at the fire, I'm ready, We're ready. I'd sit
Speaker 1: well any person on the planet. You go get your
Speaker 1: best MC and your best DJ. And I've tried to
Speaker 1: do this before and nobody stepped up. Maybe somebody will.
Speaker 1: I want to see it, and I will gracefully bow out.
Speaker 1: If you come with a better set, you're not going
Speaker 1: to It's curtains there. It is. Last thing? Did you
Speaker 1: and Royce ever patch things up? I love Royce? Okay,
Speaker 1: I haven't spoken to him since that incident happened, but
Speaker 1: that's my dude, man, Like I have I really I
Speaker 1: don't hold any I don't harbor any bad feelings about Royce.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I haven't spoken to him,
Speaker 1: like I said, since that that time. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, we did a lot of great
Speaker 1: things together. You know what I'm saying, Like I mean
Speaker 1: your grace to XXL with him. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like a lot of a lot of amazing
Speaker 1: moments happened it.
Speaker 2: Yeah with my boy, you know what I meaning, like
Speaker 2: and it's it's all good for me.
Speaker 1: It's all good.
Speaker 2: That's good and you know that that's it just is
Speaker 2: what it is, Like.
Speaker 1: What DJ Premiere, you know, DJ Premiere, Royce me, come on,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of there's a lot of moments Royce
Speaker 1: and Ritz, you know, like Royce, Marshall, myself, the fucking Gang,
Speaker 1: you know, like like there was there's there's history there
Speaker 1: that like I can't, I can't like just make disappear.
Speaker 2: And you know what I mean, like to put some.
Speaker 1: You know, discrepancy or a disagreement or like whatever it is.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Whatever it's not it's not to me. It's water under
Speaker 2: the bridge.
Speaker 1: Good. I thought of another random thing.
Speaker 3: When you did Worldwide Choppers with Tech, did you know
Speaker 3: there was gonna be people wrapping in like Turkish and
Speaker 3: fucking all kinds of fucking wild ass languages on that ship.
Speaker 1: Speaking to Posse Records, that shit went platinum. There's a
Speaker 1: Turkish verse.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the beginning. There's a dude who's like that, no way, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's platinum.
Speaker 1: You're on it. It's platin.
Speaker 2: I never even I never, I never heard it.
Speaker 1: I only recorded my verse.
Speaker 2: I never even listened to it.
Speaker 1: It's like you it's him, No I know, I'm it's
Speaker 1: bust rhynd, twist buzz around like and then it's a
Speaker 1: bunch of other dudes to expect bro, I fucking like,
Speaker 1: just fucking you send me some ship. Sometimes I'm like
Speaker 1: and then I go, fucking I'm out. Yeah, I don't like,
Speaker 1: you need to get a plaque sent to you. You're
Speaker 1: on the song. It's placked. Let me tell you. One
Speaker 1: of my biggest regrets what is that with with Tech nine?
Speaker 1: I got a few, but musically one of them is
Speaker 1: Tech nine sent me a record and he said, he said, hey,
Speaker 1: I won't meet you and Kendrick on this song. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's called Fragile. And I was like, I listened to
Speaker 1: it and I was like, man, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I can talk about being fragile, because I don't feel
Speaker 1: genuinely fragile, and I don't know if I am.
Speaker 2: Maybe I am, but I at the time, I was like, I.
Speaker 1: Could not connect with the concept of like admitting that
Speaker 1: I have a problem with someone not liking my music,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because it was really for
Speaker 1: people I haven't heard the record.
Speaker 3: It was really like an ode to negative journalistic opinions
Speaker 3: on our critics, critics, like a fuck you to critics, essentially.
Speaker 1: Exactly, Man, do I wish I would have just you know,
Speaker 1: I actually laid a verse I did. I recorded a
Speaker 1: verse and never sent it. So I have a verse
Speaker 1: in my in my hard drive on Fragile with with
Speaker 1: Kendrick and and Tech nine, but I never returned to
Speaker 1: them that had been crazy and look in these and
Speaker 1: these and then like you know, fast forward Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 2: Hey, listen to you kids, don't.
Speaker 4: Just do it.
Speaker 1: Don't overthink it.
Speaker 2: No, don't overthink it. Fucking do it. We got keV
Speaker 2: over here. Look at me.
Speaker 1: I'm making sure Ot is not outside. He's not here yet.
Speaker 1: He's running late for the usual. So we're fine, okay, man,
Speaker 1: just making We're gonna do it a nice hang. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go hang. You guys can do a song tonight.
Speaker 1: Let's make a song. Happen.
Speaker 2: Listen, listen to you kids, do not.
Speaker 1: Don't overthink.
Speaker 2: Another one is uh run the Jewels?
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Oh bro?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: LP sent me a song when I was making Trump
Speaker 1: Music three, Trump Music three. Yeah, and so did Ritz
Speaker 1: And I was so I was so wrapped out, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I was like so versed to death.
Speaker 1: Right after making that, I was like, I'm like tapped.
Speaker 1: I've tapped right everything I have to offer as an
Speaker 1: MC to do this, Like, I don't got it. Man,
Speaker 1: missed the opportunity to be on the Run the Jewels record,
Speaker 1: like like ship that, Like that's an opportunity that's always open.
Speaker 1: I'm sure, though, Well, you know I've I've kicked it.
Speaker 1: I've kicked it with LP quite a bit. You No, Obviously,
Speaker 1: Mike's my fucking dog, you know, And I love LP
Speaker 1: and I've I've spent some time with LP in New
Speaker 1: York and we've had moments.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I was around for some of their earliest sessions at
Speaker 1: Tree Sound again, like when they were probably working on
Speaker 1: rap music. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like before it happens the
Speaker 1: thing thing. Yeah, it had been crazy. You want one
Speaker 1: of them fucking bro them fucking Run the Jewels, fucking albums,
Speaker 1: all four fucking crazy amazing. I hate myself for not
Speaker 1: doing that.
Speaker 2: I hate but but at the same time, like I
Speaker 2: just wasn't.
Speaker 4: Yo.
Speaker 1: So Ritz is like, Yo, give me a rat verse,
Speaker 1: give me a rat verse. This is on this album
Speaker 1: that he's coming out with, uh with Tech, okay, right,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, you talking about like a couple
Speaker 1: of albums, like when he was on he was on Strange. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gave him the worst verse his first album, one
Speaker 1: of my careers, Like, like, you mean the song you
Speaker 1: did with him on your on his first Soul Late terrible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember he hated No, he was like, dude, fucking
Speaker 1: and then Wolf gives me this fucking throwaway verse and
Speaker 1: it made the album because of course his first album
Speaker 1: needs to have you on it.
Speaker 2: He's like, he's like, he's like, you have to be
Speaker 2: on this.
Speaker 1: I said, Ritz, no, I don't, mane he said, no,
Speaker 1: you have to. And I was like, all right, dude,
Speaker 1: here you go. Man, somebody saw Tech. He was like, uh, Tech,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about doing another record. I say, man, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna be I'm not gonna give you one of
Speaker 1: the races, one of the more verses, and he was like,
Speaker 1: he was like, please, please don't, please don't. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: bro crazy man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, hey, dude, well, look the new album is
Speaker 3: coming out, and do we have an exact May date?
Speaker 1: May twelve? Oh, May twelve, May twelve, you heard it first.
Speaker 1: May Twelve's the double disc? Ish? Definitely double vinyl, maybe
Speaker 1: even four vinyls. I feel like this might be like
Speaker 1: a well no, I think it's like twenty it's like
Speaker 1: twenty four twenty six songs. So how many vinyls does
Speaker 1: that take? At least three? That feels like a triple
Speaker 1: A triple rich? How many vinyls we're doing? Six? Rich
Speaker 1: has six six vinyls six two four six. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a six. It gonna be eight vinyl probably.
Speaker 1: I don't know, fucking know, man, I do know that,
Speaker 1: like I want like a you know, you got like
Speaker 1: eight songs on one side, eight songs on the other. Right,
Speaker 1: How long they are all? That part? Yeah? That part?
Speaker 1: So it depends if you got like a fucking six
Speaker 1: minute joint. You know which you probably do? I do
Speaker 1: got one? Probably do? Would you do another? Sometimes? Why?
Speaker 1: Because I guess Fuck yeah, I gotta do another one.
Speaker 1: I have to man yeah to the ship's do good.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna this time. I'm just gonna record it
Speaker 1: and say keep sucking. I'm not doing the whole fucking
Speaker 1: run around like May seventeenth is the album May seventeenth,
Speaker 1: Get it right, May seventeenth, May seventeenth war story comes out? Damn, Hey, yo,
Speaker 1: you're gonna come out to my podcast? Are you? Are
Speaker 1: you gonna do a podcast? Yeah? Fuck yeah? You know
Speaker 1: what you gotta do now? That Ritz I think is singleish.
Speaker 1: You gotta have Rits on your podcast so he could
Speaker 1: tell the nastiest stories in hip hop unapologetically. Now we
Speaker 1: ain't even got time for me to go into the
Speaker 1: stories I know about the bus troll.
Speaker 5: Wait, wait, hey, riddle me, this Canadian missed the bus troll.
Speaker 5: You know Rich is the bus troll?
Speaker 1: Bro was Rich? Was Rich? Why I hit on it
Speaker 1: in that fucking garbage verse that I gave for for
Speaker 1: I'm glad you admitted it. He's gonna be so happy
Speaker 1: you admitted it.
Speaker 2: He fucking knows.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, Ritz feels some type of way.
Speaker 3: You guys never did a project together. You know it's
Speaker 3: it's it's because fans always bother him. He's like, yo, man,
Speaker 3: we could have gave the fans that the ogs American fans.
Speaker 1: I don't want to rap with Ritz man, that's the truth, man,
Speaker 1: Like I want to rap. Man, Let's let's do some
Speaker 1: other ship. Man, I'm singing. Yeah, it's rapping is too easy, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do some ship. We put some rap ship in there,
Speaker 1: but I want to do some mo Was it the
Speaker 1: tour with you uh, in which his nose blew up red?
Speaker 1: Wasn't that your guys's tour? He had the coke nose?
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna love this interview. He's gotta love this.
Speaker 1: You see if I get him answer a facet had
Speaker 1: this piece of ship. Oh my god, dude, he showed
Speaker 1: me pictures of that ship. You had to let the
Speaker 1: pop forgot about the cocos. Oh my bro, this will
Speaker 1: text me at three in the morning the night before last.
Speaker 8: Oh oh, let's let's double team, let's tag team and
Speaker 8: full home. Oh right now, cos please God bless America,
Speaker 8: Please phone Coke.
Speaker 1: Gang bangon pause through face time, full Home, full Home.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he'd like it, full sin. He's had worse.
Speaker 1: He's the grenade jumper. You pussy answer the phone, Coke
Speaker 1: knows look at us. You're on the fucking you're on
Speaker 1: the podcast, You fucking pussy. Yeah, you pussy like man,
Speaker 1: he's probably in the basement somewhere crying, Hey, why are
Speaker 1: we calling you both? And you're not answering your piece
Speaker 1: of ship? Yeah, get your ship together, man, know. Fucking
Speaker 1: bus troll. Yeah, it's probably fucking a midget on me.
Speaker 1: You know I caught it the bus troll, because you
Speaker 1: would get hammered, dog hammered in the bus, and he.
Speaker 4: Would just.
Speaker 11: We have understand some Jeremy Scott Adidas swaying back, like
Speaker 11: if you imagine Rinson is under his hair, I can
Speaker 11: imagine it, Yo, like blocking the door with a fucking
Speaker 11: plastic bottle of.
Speaker 1: Canadian bro How about this.
Speaker 3: The only time Ritz ever got really mad at me
Speaker 3: was I was blacked out and I took his beanie
Speaker 3: off and he oh.
Speaker 1: Oh, I touched the beanie. It was a fucking problem. Hey,
Speaker 1: well this is him without a beanie, Like this might
Speaker 1: be that Mexico toot's see you guys here.
Speaker 2: No Spotify?
Speaker 1: Okay, so what's their et a idea?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 1: All right, let me cause that I'll find out. Are
Speaker 1: you I'm in here, I'm in here, come in you
Speaker 1: fuck him in the middle of an interview. There's a
Speaker 1: winning gate. It's unlocked. Push it through, you got it? Goodbye?
Speaker 8: Yo.
Speaker 1: So look so like he would like why we called
Speaker 1: him bus troll?
Speaker 10: It is because he was like standing in the hallway,
Speaker 10: bro and like blocking the antl to the to the
Speaker 10: bucks and no, with a bottle of Canadian miss like
Speaker 10: a fucking leprechaun or some ship.
Speaker 1: And so we started saying, riddle me this Canadian miss,
Speaker 1: like you had to answer a riddle to get to
Speaker 1: your bunk. So anyway, we shout out to Ritz. He's
Speaker 1: a legend, great guy. I love him.
Speaker 10: Whatever.
Speaker 1: Listen, man, I'm just here having fun. That was funny.
Speaker 1: It's funny. It is because I'm crying. You know who
Speaker 1: was gnarly? Was your old fucking road manager the night
Speaker 1: I told you about Josh Spice. No, no, no, Jos's
Speaker 1: cool shots o G. I'm talking about the fucking violent
Speaker 1: motherfucker Brooklyn. Oh Brooklyn. He was crazy nuts. So I'm
Speaker 1: tripping out, worst trip of my night, like of my life.
Speaker 1: So I'm on, I'm on all the edibles in the world, right,
Speaker 1: Rich is opening up for you. I'm standing in the crowd.
Speaker 1: My legs are cemented to the floor. I can't move.
Speaker 3: Garfield the Cats on stage next to Ritz with fucking
Speaker 3: slot machine eyes.
Speaker 4: You go on.
Speaker 1: I go outside. I'm puking on the side of the venue.
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing up profusely. Right, And I walk back in,
Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, like when I'm tripping hard, all
Speaker 1: of the ship that would make someone's trip really bad
Speaker 1: happening in real life around them always happens to me. Right,
Speaker 1: So I got some Native American dude trying to check
Speaker 1: me about being white on stolen land. Outside, going to
Speaker 1: the fucking backstage of the venue, and Brooklyn's beating the
Speaker 1: ship out of some guy on the side of the stage.
Speaker 1: We wait, is this the observatory? No, this isn't Arizona.
Speaker 2: This is this is how many times this happened.
Speaker 1: This is the clubhouse. I don't wonder which venue. This
Speaker 1: is the clubhouse in Arizona. And so I'm sitting on
Speaker 1: the couch and this fucking dude just getting the ship
Speaker 1: rocked out of him right in front of me. And
Speaker 1: I don't know how real it is because I'm fucked,
Speaker 1: and that dude's a gnarly dude. Little dude, but like
Speaker 1: not even a little dude, but like not like as
Speaker 1: big of a dude as you'd expect to be throwing
Speaker 1: the way he was throwing, like normal size guy.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: No, Brooklyn was a savage. Savage. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a maniac. Yeah, good time, the best time tour
Speaker 1: coming ish, Yeah, spot. I'm not I'm not into torn
Speaker 1: right now. Man, I'm telling you, I'm just like I'm.
Speaker 3: You had ruptured your spleen skydiving, right, that's crowded guy,
Speaker 3: crowd crowded.
Speaker 1: In a way. Yeah yeah, in Los Angeles, and that
Speaker 1: had stopped you from doing more of that? Correct? I?
Speaker 1: Well no it didn't. It didn't stop me, but did it? Got?
Speaker 1: I got this tattoo it said calm down. I was
Speaker 1: in ICU for fucking four days and assisted living for
Speaker 1: two weeks. They I had signed a death papers for
Speaker 1: that that injury. Like they were like, if you die,
Speaker 1: we're not responsible. Type of ship I was on dolt
Speaker 1: of and ship and then I and then I left
Speaker 1: that assisted living and went straight to the airport to
Speaker 1: Australia for a tour. Fuck and ah, man, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm cool, I'm cool on like I just look, man,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna climb to the top of the venue
Speaker 1: and do a fucking flying elbow off of it. I
Speaker 1: mean I might, yeah, you know, I mean, what better
Speaker 1: way to go out? Honestly, I mean, dude, when I
Speaker 1: ruptured my spleen, what happened is I landed on a
Speaker 1: dude's face and his nosebone went into my spleen. So
Speaker 1: I like dove off of like fucking ten feet in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Actually I don't know what venue it was,
Speaker 1: so that dude was fucked up, but everybody's hands were
Speaker 1: up and this dude turned around like.
Speaker 2: Fucking splattered his nose.
Speaker 1: He was so stoked, he was so happy. No, wow,
Speaker 1: good for him for him being a real one. Twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. That happens. They're getting fucking too. I've been
Speaker 1: superfore for what that that ship that happened at Observatory,
Speaker 1: What happened? How was happening at a few of your
Speaker 1: shows there? Now that that full jumped on stage and
Speaker 1: pulled me down. It was on like all like, what
Speaker 1: is it all hip hop or whatever?
Speaker 3: I remember the vlog you had where someone stepped on
Speaker 3: your bus and you clocked them. You remember that on
Speaker 3: the bus stairs? What was that like twelve years ago?
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? It was on one of your vlogs,
Speaker 1: like on your YouTube channel. Some fools some food was
Speaker 1: trying to get on the bus and you just fucking
Speaker 1: lay Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: But that that shit happened the loss you having an observatory.
Speaker 1: I got pulled down by my overalls. It was like
Speaker 1: a it's not no, it's all Star, No, not all
Speaker 1: Star world Star. Was this that ship and they posed
Speaker 1: it up but it blew up on ward Star or whatever?
Speaker 1: I like, was this the show that the jelly and
Speaker 1: struggle opened up on? No, no, no, people go okay,
Speaker 1: But anyway, Brooklyn was there. Yeah, the point is Brooklyn
Speaker 1: was there. I got a lawsuit. Shit I threw. I
Speaker 1: threw a bottle of this idiot who was who was
Speaker 1: trying to beat me up? Basically, and yeah, I got
Speaker 1: I got the business. Well, look man, May seventeenth album
Speaker 1: is coming. It's I'm excited for this one. Man, can
Speaker 1: we do some hip hop this year?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Can we fucking do some mother fucking hip hop this year?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to fucking do. Man Warst Story
Speaker 1: May seventeenth, Truck Music Forever. My energy is up, man good,
Speaker 1: My energy is way up. I'm glad, bro, I'm serious,
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I feel it. I feel like that first
Speaker 1: record was a statement, like, bitch, I'm here to rack dog.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, don't forget I wanted
Speaker 1: the coldest. I'm here to do more than that fucking
Speaker 1: ballmart ballmart Baby, Go buy some some American. Go support
Speaker 1: this guy, Go buy some Slamerican. How about not go
Speaker 1: bootlegg it?
Speaker 2: keV dad joke?
Speaker 1: What's up with Newport? I still have a green hoodie
Speaker 1: with his fucking face on it.
Speaker 2: You have the fucking dude We're killing it hoodie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a classic, man, you better hold on to that.
Speaker 1: We'll never make it again. I'm sure he won't. Why
Speaker 1: would you? That was a moment like be like, yo,
Speaker 1: let's print another Newport hoodie. Might print some skateboards or
Speaker 1: some shit, but oh Newport, dude, he's got his own
Speaker 1: skate shop. He's great man, Magic City, Miami. We had
Speaker 1: If you are getting down to Miami and you want
Speaker 1: to go to a skate shop with the family, check
Speaker 1: in in Magic City. Man. That's my boy. Man, he's
Speaker 1: got a great skateboard shop, you know, popping.
Speaker 3: Would you ever do any movies or try to maybe
Speaker 3: like write a pilot for a TV show based on
Speaker 3: some of your life or any of your fucking why
Speaker 3: do you.
Speaker 1: Ask so many things that have such long answers.
Speaker 3: Well, because we're waiting for that Mexicano t his handler
Speaker 3: just got here, the gay man in the corner over there.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I've done my first feature film.
Speaker 1: It's called Peter Peanut Butter Falcon with Sealah Buff Dakota. Zach.
Speaker 1: You used to check it out, Okay I didn't. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen that. When I didn't, we'll fucking stop sleeping on,
Speaker 1: stop sleeping. Got some bars, he definitely does, got bars,
Speaker 1: but not now this role. Oh John Hawks, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like like crew crew. But the movie
Speaker 1: is called Peanut Butter Falconi movie. That's also a sick
Speaker 1: band name. It's a great movie. Zach is starring in
Speaker 1: it and the story is what got me about the role.
Speaker 1: But I was fresh out of rehab, dude, like, and
Speaker 1: my role is called rat boy and pooh boy. Did
Speaker 1: I own that?
Speaker 5: You know? So?
Speaker 1: I fucking that was my first role and only role.
Speaker 1: But I just say down with Shannon from Average Joe's
Speaker 1: who they just did Old Henry And if you haven't
Speaker 1: seen Old Henry, please do yourself a favorite. Check that movie.
Speaker 1: I was brilliant Old Henry. So we're working on some things.
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see. I'm just not a fucking artist
Speaker 1: that wants to do film for film's sake. I like
Speaker 1: rad shit, like I like how like most Death did
Speaker 1: it right get out. He just got the Italian job
Speaker 1: to be Henrie Wind. You know, he just picked great
Speaker 1: roles and he had a very like he was very
Speaker 1: tasteful about how he approached it, you know, and it
Speaker 1: was somehow it seemed like on brand for what you
Speaker 1: would appreciate from from him most deaf, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I would like to do it like that.
Speaker 1: Another artist who did it is like Dwight Yoakum. Dwight
Speaker 1: Yoakum did it very tastefully. I feel like too. From
Speaker 1: from like music to film legend. So I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to make that like transition and like gracefully. I get
Speaker 1: rolls all the time, but it's always like some love interests,
Speaker 1: like fucking weird, just romantic comedy, like the fuck.
Speaker 9: Out of here.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do a romantic comedy like I
Speaker 1: want some fucking gnarly shit. Let's get gnarly.
Speaker 2: Let's get gnarly in twenty.
Speaker 1: Four, Gnarly twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: I gotta fucking piss like a raise me too.
Speaker 1: What's in the fucking podcast? The podcast just ended. It's over. Now,
Speaker 1: it's over. Wait, what's the May seventeenth? May seventeenth War story?
Speaker 1: The double album is out, Thank you my god. keV, Hey,
Speaker 1: you're going to introduce me to os. Yeah, he'll be
Speaker 1: here in a second. Yeah,