1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: This is Ben and Ashley I almost famous in depth. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Mike Johnson, it's been a while. How are you, buddy, 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm blessed man, it has been a while. It's amazing, 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, it feels amazing. It feels like my fifteen 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: is a Famou have gone up so long ago but 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: still be here and I get to talk to you. 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: It truly feels good. You say that, and I remember 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: very distinctly. So we're sitting here in Las Vegas right 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: now for the I Heart Radio Music Festival. You were 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: at this event, and I remember at that festival you 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: and I talking and it was kind of right when 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: you were getting off the show and moving into whatever 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: was next in your life, and you're you're we were 14 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: just chatting about where life would take you, what you 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: wanted to do. And that's why we're here today. I 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: want to find out. I don't know, honestly, all that 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: you're up to, and I know you're up to a lot. 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: So let's start with Mike, what are some of the 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: biggest things going on in your life right now? Some 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: of the biggest things going in my life right now. 21 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: I have just created a newsletter and right now I'm 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: asking everyone to go to my website Feeling Seen dot com. 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: It's like a landing page right now. Uh, it's all 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: about sexual wellness, exploration, education, and entertainment. And so I'm 25 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: big into that space and I want to make conversation 26 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: is normal. Conversation is normal about yeah, all things sexual. 27 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: So I'll give you a few examples. So let's say 28 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm a virgin, I get married. Um, that's a big 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: thing for me, you know, in that case, and so 30 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: I may want to have some resources, some articles to 31 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: look at. Or let's say I'm in a sexless marriage. 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: Or let's say I'm thirty four year old mail me 33 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: and my libido isn't the same anymore. Or let's say 34 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm a parent and my child comes to me and 35 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: said they're born in the wrong gender. These are topics 36 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: that are truly important. I want to make sure everyone 37 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: is felt, seen and heard. Oh, you know, after your 38 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: your book that I believe came out in what yes, sir, 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: smile world, smile day. That's right, and then your yours, 40 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy. Yeah, I got a good memory there. 41 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: Of course, I don't talk about my book enough um 42 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: on this podcast, and then you talk about it more alone. 43 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: Plain Side can go to Amazon by it say make 44 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: sure you put in the same car making the loan. 45 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: So with your podcast talking it out, your book, now 46 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: your newsletter. Uh, and tell me if I'm wrong here. 47 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: You can disagree with me. But it feels like you 48 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: have kind of chosen the area of sex to talk 49 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: about and not make taboo, but to bring UM that 50 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: conversation to the form front of people's minds. Two questions 51 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: with that, why are you UM in a place in 52 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: your life that you believe you can teach people about it? 53 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: And then to why is that the topic that you chose? 54 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 1: I feel in order to do anything great, you must 55 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: have gone through it yourself, and you must have the experience. 56 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: And I also had the academic knowledge behind it from 57 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: the schooling that I've gone to UM. So that's the 58 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: reason why. And then also have a fantastic team behind 59 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: me that's way better than I am, that have been 60 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: doing this for over twenty five years, and so it's 61 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: not just my words, is the entire I built a 62 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: dream team basically, Ben, And then why I chose this field. 63 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: When I was in the Air Force, I was the 64 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: only male on the entire base that I was at 65 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: that became a victim advocate, And basically what a victim's 66 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: advocate is someone who is there for you if you 67 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: were to go through something you're sexually assaulted, and I 68 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: was assault If you you know my book Making Love, 69 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: you want to talk about being sexually assaulted as a child. Um, 70 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: And I just gravitate towards in my last relationship that 71 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: I was talked about when I was on a bachelor 72 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: my ex and I had a miscarriage. And these are 73 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: just things that a lot of people go through in 74 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: life that for whatever reason, they aren't heard. And so 75 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: I want to make every single human being out there 76 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: know that there's a place for you in this world 77 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: and you're not alone. That's beautiful. Man. You built a 78 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: dream team. Can you talk a little bit about that team? Yeah? 79 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: Thank you. UM. So, I'm not gonna call her names 80 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: because they hate being in front, but one of the 81 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: ladies on my team, she actually I say that I can. 82 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: I say that I'm an author and I'm a writer. 83 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I'm an editor. And so she was 84 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: on my team for my Bookmaking Love. You want, I 85 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: have someone else on my team who we work together 86 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: really closely. When it comes to our clients that we 87 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: have in the sex working space. And so I have 88 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: clients writ now a couples, lots of couples, some single individuals, 89 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: and so we work together. I'm kind of she is 90 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: my sin say per se, and so I'm onner her truelage. 91 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: And then we have a group of people as well 92 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: that help with the writing and the articles. We have 93 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: people of all genders, Um, we have people that are transgender, 94 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: we have people that of all races, and people that 95 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: are different nationalities as well. You have a wide representation. 96 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: I mean when you're trying to bring you have to 97 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: and you're trying to bring in a bunch of different 98 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: opinions and a bunch of different thoughts. We're trying to 99 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: be the not even trying. We're going to be the 100 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: biggest sex media company in the Western hums for speaking 101 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: Spanish in English, and you know we have the we 102 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: have the best team. I just did a podcast with 103 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: Shamboo Dram. It's on my on my I G right 104 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: now you can look at it where I'll talk about 105 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: me myself and not having performance anxiety men as men, 106 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: you and know men don't talk about this stuff, um, 107 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: and so this isn't really important to me, and I 108 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: find that their strength and vulnerability and and even for me, 109 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: you know, I got married in November. Congratulations again, thank 110 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: you buddy, you did. You've already told me that I 111 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: appreciate that, and it is I like reaching out to 112 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: you man well, and I always appreciate when you do, 113 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: because I think opening up these topics and having that 114 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: safe space, once you talk about it once with somebody, 115 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: it's not as awkward to talk about it again. And 116 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: I was saying when since I got married, it's a 117 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: beautiful partnership, right, and my wife and I can talk 118 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: about anything and everything, um, but it still is that 119 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: sometimes lonely because you feel like once you get into marriage, 120 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: everything is going to be perfect, right. The sex is 121 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: gonna be incredible, the connection is gonna last forever. And 122 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: sometimes there's things that just happen due to whatever place 123 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: your life, outside circumstances um that make you feel, uh 124 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: like you're doing something wrong and you don't necessarily want 125 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: to talk to your partner about it. And so having 126 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: these resources and what I'm hearing from you is this, 127 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: what you're creating is a place where people can lean 128 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: on to say hey, maybe I'm not alone, maybe I'm 129 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: not crazy, maybe I'm not failing. Correct, Well, maybe I 130 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: mean this is the other side. Maybe you are crazy 131 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: and there's a group of crazy out there that that 132 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: are just like you. You know. That's why we're asking 133 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: people to go to feeling scene dot com and uh, 134 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, sign up and there's a box where you 135 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: can actually say, hey, this is the topic. Got one 136 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: more information about let's switch gears a little bit here. 137 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm glad that we got to talk about that. Um, 138 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: but I know, also you're still doing the podcast talking 139 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: about talking out Bachelor Nation. You know, so you're in 140 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: this is a Bachelor Nation podcast. It is done by 141 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: I believe Warner Brothers. Correct, So you were in it, 142 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: and so I have a lot of stuff I want 143 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: to talk to you about with the current state of 144 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: the show. What just happened on the finale? Um? Can 145 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: I pause you? I could? I genuinely I think the 146 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: world of you, man. I'll talk about you so highly 147 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: behind your back all the time, and to be here 148 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: again with you, it just it's making me smile. I 149 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: had no clue until yesterday. I'm not kidding. I was driving. Um, 150 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: we drove our one day from um, yeah, from Los 151 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: Angeles to Las Vegas. That is a drive and a half. 152 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: Let me tell you there is my grandma. She lives 153 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: in a Try state area and I want to go 154 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: visit it. I was in l A last week. Okay, Well, 155 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: you got to see all the crazy stuff that exists 156 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: on the side of the road every like fifty miles. 157 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: There's like this massive new thing that you have no 158 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: clue how or why it exists. But then you stopped 159 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: like that's pretty cool. Uh. And they told me yesterday 160 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: that you were going to be here. I had no 161 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: clue who was going to be here on this trip 162 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: with us. And I was very excited to catch back 163 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: up with you, um because you don't hold back either, 164 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: and uh, and I appreciate that. And I'm sure on 165 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: talking you've been able to talk about some of these 166 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: topics that were about to kind of broke. Yeah, thank you. 167 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: So this podcast talk to me about the behind the 168 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: scenes of it. Has it been been an enjoyable experience? 169 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you were supported by Warner Brothers? 170 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: And I'm asking these questions because they're gonna get to 171 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: someplace because right now, if you look around us in 172 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: the Bachelor world, a lot of people are feeling unsupported, 173 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: a lot of criticism. I came to people who are 174 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: associated with still the show and working kind of for 175 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: the show, saying they get better edits, they get better opportunities, 176 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: they're backed better. Um, they're not afraid of going on 177 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: shows anymore because they know that the show is gonna 178 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: protect them. And I'm gonna get all that. But do 179 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: you feel like you're supported at Warner Brothers with this 180 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: podcast and what has your experience been doing this podcast 181 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: with Brian? Beautiful question. I'll start Brian. I'll start Brian, 182 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: my co host, Brian Apa Solos amazing. Uh. He is 183 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: a doctor and so therefore as you would think a 184 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: doctor is, That's how Brian is. He wants to be, 185 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: you know, tactical with everything and it really helps me 186 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: a lot. Um. I don't know everyone in the house 187 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 1: at Warner so I can't speak to that. I know 188 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: the people that are on my team for our podcast 189 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: talking it out, and I love them all. They're amazing. 190 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: I get this speak Kennidly. I think a lot of 191 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: people are afraid of me because I'm gonna say whatever 192 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: is in my mind. I'm not gonna hold back, and 193 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: I think some people don't like that because I'm uncontrollable, 194 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: but I find out other people love it because at 195 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: the end of the day of my heart is in 196 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: the right place. So by doing this and having a 197 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: good experience, having great co host. Um if, when, if, 198 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: and when they ask you to go on spinoff shows, 199 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: would you say yes to them? Um? That's the saying. 200 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: That's why I answered the question where I did, because 201 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that you're specifically speaking to what Blake 202 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,599 Speaker 1: Horseman has said. And I love Blake, but I completely 203 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: disagree with that statement. Most of Bastel Nation knows for 204 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: good and will. It seems as if I've been cast 205 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: out of going on the show. And I know what 206 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: I just said, and that's where I feel. Why is that? 207 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: I don't know? You tell me, Ben Well, I have 208 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: no idea, now do I? Yeah? I talk about idea. UM. 209 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: I talked about the show on my podcast and that's 210 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: about as close as as I get these days. You know, 211 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: I still have a lot of respect. The show changed 212 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: my life for the better. Um. It brought me new opportunities. Uh, 213 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: it taught me a lot. I had a great experience, 214 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: you know. Um, and I would say my unique My 215 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: experience was is unique uh to me because I really 216 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: and I think most people who are fans of the 217 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: show would say this. I don't have a lot of 218 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: negativity coming from my Still I get negativity today, criticism 219 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: people are saying, probably because I didn't get negatively on 220 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: the show, people are doing it now. Um. But my 221 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: experience was good, it was and and it did it 222 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: brought me able to speak to you today. Um. But 223 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: I know that's not everybody's. But I am confused because 224 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: when when this season was coming up and the Bachelor 225 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: was being picked, your name was being tossed around by fans. 226 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: Fans wanted you to have an opportunity to become the 227 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: next Bachelor, and we thought, hey, here at the podcast, 228 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: that's a great possibility. You went to Audrey's coffee shop, 229 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: met Ashley again. Ash was Mike Johnson's incredible. This dude 230 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: is awesome. He was great to the fans, he was 231 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: great to us making the next Bachelor? What are we doing? 232 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: But it was cool to see your coffee over there 233 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, thank you. They're very kind in buying 234 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: our coffee. They're actually um, they just became our largest client. 235 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: Shout out. They're crushing They're crushing it over there, they are. Yeah, 236 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: so thank you to Audrey's um. They're keeping keeping me employed. 237 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: Uh so, what did you Okay, I guess I gotta 238 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: start with, did you read the phone call? I'm confused. 239 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: I mean I'm confused, not because you know Zack's a 240 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: bad choice or a good dress. I don't know Zack. 241 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: I can't even speak to that. I can't speak to 242 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: that a little bit. I've met Zack. Zack is awesome. 243 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: When I met him on my podcast, it is I 244 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: think that he's a little bit boring, but that's just 245 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: my person. Now. I'm very honest. I can think someone's 246 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic and still say well being he crosses his 247 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: legs when he sits down, you know, like I still 248 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: think the world Ractice said not to dude. I want 249 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: are saying not to you right now. That's a conversation 250 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: that we can have on feelings soon. So okay, boring, 251 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: I know is going to be one of his criticism. 252 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: It was one of the criticisms that I got that 253 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: I was boring. Um. And so you know, until you 254 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: meet somebody in person, you really don't know. Um, you 255 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: know that he might be trying to play it too safe. 256 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: He might just be a normal, boring dude who's like 257 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: gonna walk a very straight line during this process. And honestly, 258 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: the thing about being boring, right, it's it's one of 259 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: my one of the things I'm scared of now as 260 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: I try to make my life extremely structured is that there. 261 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: It takes away the spot in eightie, right and so. 262 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: But I also think that being boring and being disciplined 263 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: is really good to becoming a success and being the 264 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: success that you like, And so I don't want people 265 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: to look at that in such a negative connotation. Yeah, exactly. 266 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: I think you just said the best word for it's 267 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: a discipline. I think times people are born seen seem 268 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: boring because their discipline and they're trying to do the 269 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: right thing. Uh, be more quiet than they speak. You know. Listen, Well, 270 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: I want to get back to this. Uh you're not 271 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: getting even a phone call. It is confusing, I think 272 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: for many people because they do have you and they 273 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: know you're not boring. You've been on the show, you 274 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: work for Warner Brothers, with this podcast, you stayed around, 275 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: you started this thing out with saying that your fifteen 276 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: minutes of fame has faded. It fades for all of us. 277 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: I don't think yours has faded, um completely. I think 278 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: it's still very active. I think you still have a 279 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: huge influence and a huge impact. Uh. In fact, I 280 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: would say that your influence and impact is probably um 281 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: more than anybody getting off the show too right now, um, 282 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: based on following, based on experience, based on your group 283 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: that you know comes around you, and based on social 284 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: media's um kind of push to make you the next Bachelor. 285 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: And so if you could explain to me, because I 286 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: know this has crossed through your mind, why you don't 287 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: think you've even got a phone call about it? Why? Like? Where? 288 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: Why is that? What are we missing? Well? I did 289 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: get a phone call on twenty nine, okay, but I 290 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: haven't gotten one since Peter matt Um Clayton Zack. I 291 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: think I named all the other ones. Um, I don't know. 292 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: My honest response, it's not my business, um. And what 293 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean by that is my business is to continue 294 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: to be a good human being that I am focused 295 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: on what I do, continue to be a great mentor 296 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: to the big brother, big sisters, and my mentee and 297 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: do right about my family. Um, I really mean that? 298 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: Did it piss me off? Yeah? It felt like a 299 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: slap in the face. In twenty nine Team in two, 300 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: I could care less. They've clearly clearly show that they 301 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: don't like something in me, and I'm okay with that. 302 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm not for everybody. I'm gonna I'm gonna acquire a 303 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: tell youst baby, we're to go wrong In two thousand nine, Um, 304 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: nothing on my in I don't feel. But if I 305 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: did something wrong, I genuinely don't know. I think you 306 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: probably know more than I do because I don't. I 307 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: know nothing. So you and I together, I really, I 308 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: mean I would have to think that I know. I 309 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: don't know. I I could not tell you. Man. So 310 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: this is just an interesting season for you now because 311 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: you're telling me that talking it out is still going on. 312 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: You're not getting the phone calls to be the next Bachelor. Um, 313 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: if they called you about Paradise, what would you say? 314 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: It would be the right woman. If I went to Paradise, 315 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: I would only go on for one specific woman. I mean, 316 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: like I would. I'm not going to go into Paradise 317 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: and like trying to flirt with all that, I'm going 318 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: for one woman, one womanly, So your follow up question 319 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: probably who was that? Yeah, you're good. Um, I'm a 320 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: podcast too, now, yeah you get it. Um, I haven't 321 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: seen that woman because you know, we got the Bachelor 322 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: ask for I. We don't know what's going on with 323 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 1: their season, you know, I just don't know. But if 324 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: I would go in Paradise, it would be for one woman. Mike, 325 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: I would love to see in my television. Again. Um, 326 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm reminded every time I'm with you. I'm not a 327 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: short man, and I do try to work out. Uh 328 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: So I tried to get my muscles as plump as possible. 329 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: They're not there yet. Yeah, I'm reminded every time of 330 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: just how massive you are and the fact that you 331 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: could walk on. Like if you walk to the beach 332 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: on Paradise and I was sitting there as like one 333 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: of your competitors, I would just I know what I 334 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: would do. I'd walk to my bedroom and I'd be like, 335 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: this is the stupidest thing I've ever done. I have 336 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: to stand next to Mike Johnson on the beach. I'm 337 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: gonna look like an idiot, and every girl is going 338 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: to go after him. You. I think you're crazy if 339 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: you don't say yes to Paradise, because I feel like 340 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: you would go down there. You might go for one person, 341 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: but you're gonna have I don't know how many people 342 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: go twenty people being like that guy is a dude. 343 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: I would like to try to like connect with I 344 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: appreciate that. You know how many talents I get people 345 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: saying oh, you're better looking in person, or I'm like, damn, 346 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: I take that bad of photos. Yeah, like man, my photos. 347 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm looking at here. I'm like, yeah, you're better looking person. 348 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: Or but I don't know they got they say something 349 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: I think they say on five flight seven on Google. 350 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: I think that's what Google said. I would like a 351 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds. Everything on Google is wrong telling you, um, 352 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: but no, I would only do Paradise for one woman, 353 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: like and I don't know who that woman is for 354 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: the record, but if I were to say yes to Paradise, 355 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: it would be me chasing and going after one woman, 356 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: letting her know from moment one, Well, I feel like 357 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: then to close this out, that's a place in life 358 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: we could probably say you're at right, I mean, you're 359 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: wanting to settle down. I am, I'm I'm oh man, 360 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm older than you about a few years. And so, 361 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: you know, every time I see my mom and my 362 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: father like okay, when are you having kids, I'm like, 363 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: what are you paying for this? You know? Are you? 364 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: Are you honest? Stuff? You know, because I got a 365 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: little boozeing this in me sometimes and so my kid 366 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: is going to be going to the private schools and 367 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 1: all that good stuff, and so I gotta make sure 368 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: that everything is in order. I would say it's for me, 369 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: um then not to get you know, because I go 370 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: on and on. But for me, it's been the best 371 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: decision I've ever made. But a lot of it was 372 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: also because of wanting to start a family and knowing that, 373 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's weird all of a sudden, you getting 374 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: your thirties, and stuff speeds up fast, and you're like, 375 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: holy cow, will except for them tabloom that that slows down? 376 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: Trust me because back that I was saying earlier, But Mike, 377 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: we we hope here. And I know if Ashley was 378 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: here with me, um, you know, she'd be saying the 379 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: same thing she had rave I could show you the 380 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: text that I got from her. Um, after you going 381 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: to Audrey's. She is one of your biggest supporters, one 382 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: of your biggest fans. We hope for nothing more or 383 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: less in your your happiness, UM, for things to fall 384 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: into place. We're so excited to be celebrating with you 385 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: here uh in Las Vegas, UH for the I Heart 386 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: Radio Music Festival once again. I hope we can make 387 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: this UM kind of a tradition that you just continue 388 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: to be here when I'm here, because it's a lot 389 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: of fun to see you and to celebrate with you. Uh. 390 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: Mike Johnson, the clothes out for anybody listening, for all 391 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: the fans out there, where can people find you? What 392 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: can people look forward to hearing from you? Um? What's 393 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: the name of your newsletter? Uh? And also again I 394 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: can just do it for you talking it out is 395 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: wherever you can listen to to podcast, you can can 396 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: listen to that. UM. Again. If I'm closing it out, 397 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: I'll definitely want to say it's still an honor to 398 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: be here a few years later, because like I'm just nobody, 399 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: And you can go to my newsletter at Feeling scene 400 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: dot com. It's just a landing page right now, but 401 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: make sure you putting your email, your preferred name, and 402 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: what topics within sexology and sexual wellness you want to 403 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: know about because I'm going full throttle feeling scene. That 404 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: has been a good title from my book instead of 405 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: Alona plain Site. All right, I'm sorry Mike Johnson with UH. 406 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 1: This in depth episode is great to catch up with you, buddy. 407 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Follow the Benn 408 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on iHeart Radio or 409 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.