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Speaker 1: Downtown to kickoff continues the Jaguars and the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: It's Week twelve and it's a battle for first place

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Speaker 1: in the AFC South. Who better to call a game

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Speaker 1: like this than Andrew Cattle out of CBS Sports. Our

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Speaker 1: first time with you this year, Andrew. It's unbelievable. Have

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Speaker 1: you finally?

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Speaker 2: It's been wild? It's been this long, JP, but it

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Speaker 2: does feel right to get going here with the Jags

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Speaker 2: and the Texans. I think I've done this matchup about

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Speaker 2: ten years in a row, and I think this probably

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Speaker 2: is the best of the ten that I've been able

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Speaker 2: to call.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's the first time they both had

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Speaker 1: winning records playing each other in November or December, so

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Speaker 1: it's automatically a big game at that point. And I

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Speaker 1: mean this has got to be right up there close

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Speaker 1: to one of the biggest, most important ones, because hey,

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Speaker 1: if the Jaguars winning, it's a two game stretch. Texans

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Speaker 1: winning it flips the whole division around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. I think Actually, both these teams look

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Speaker 2: pretty good to make the playoffs, but you'll feel a

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Speaker 2: lot better if you're in the division lead with six

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Speaker 2: to go, especially a Jacksonville team. You know, Houston would

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Speaker 2: have the tie break if they win this game. I

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Speaker 2: think the Jaguars are still good enough to get in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs either way, but I think you'd rather try

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Speaker 2: that way.

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Speaker 1: Andrew. The coaching styles here are pretty interesting. Doug Peterson,

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Speaker 1: we know what he's about, and we know how he

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Speaker 1: got this team off the mat early in the season

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Speaker 1: after the lost to Houston. For all those five wins

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Speaker 1: in five stadiums in four cities and the whole deal

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Speaker 1: and keeping everybody on track. And he's done that and

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Speaker 1: did the rally last year. But de Miko Ryans is

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Speaker 1: brand new to this thing and they weren't supposed to

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Speaker 1: do anything this year. What's going on with the Miko

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Speaker 1: Ryans and the way he's brought this group together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing. I mean I really thought after they

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Speaker 2: one of those, you know, three and fourteen type of

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Speaker 2: seasons for the Texans with a rookie QB being a

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Speaker 2: rookie head coach. I think that quarterback and the coach

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Speaker 2: have've done a fantastic job. I mean, I really I

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Speaker 2: didn't see this one coming. There's very few things that

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Speaker 2: surprised me in the NFL these days, but this is

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Speaker 2: one of them, and I give them a lot of credit. Look,

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Speaker 2: you look at this division now with the quarterbacks that

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Speaker 2: are in the AFC South, and I think Will Levis

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Speaker 2: needs a little time in Tennessee. He does not have

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Speaker 2: a good offensive line. As we saw last week. You

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Speaker 2: could have four really good qbs in this division for

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Speaker 2: the next ten years, and I think that's really exciting

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Speaker 2: when you look at this AFC South.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Catalan with us CBS Sports. Let's talk about two

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Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks then, and start with Trevor Lawrence. And

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Speaker 1: he's coming off the AFC Offensive Player of the Week

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Speaker 1: award using his legs, he's still wearing the knee brace,

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Speaker 1: but he's still finding a way most times to get

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Speaker 1: things done. It may not be like the big astronomical

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Speaker 1: numbers that a lot of people were expecting this year.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people picked him to be the MVP.

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Speaker 1: That's not going to happen. But he's still playing winning football.

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Speaker 1: So what's the next How does Trevor get there or

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Speaker 1: will he even get there? Is this good enough?

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Speaker 2: It's funny because you guys breathe it day in, day out,

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Speaker 2: and I've got the bigger picture. I mean, if someone

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Speaker 2: after ten games, I would think that the majority would

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Speaker 2: know they didn't beat the forty nine ers. You'd love

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Speaker 2: to see him win one of those games. I get it.

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Speaker 2: But Trevor Lawrence, as you said, is playing winning football.

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Speaker 2: They lead the division, They've won seven of their ten games.

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Speaker 2: They played back to back games in London. I have

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Speaker 2: a much different perspective of this team than I think

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Speaker 2: a big reason why, and we've talked about this in

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Speaker 2: Trevor play better football. And the key here, as we

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Speaker 2: don't think they've necessarily played their best football, and they're

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, you gotta give the Jaguar fans

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Speaker 1: my early forties, right. The last time the Jaguars were

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Speaker 1: it's been a while for the Jaguar fans, been a while.

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Speaker 2: I get it. No, I totally get it. But I

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Speaker 2: just didn't like the perception that ah that you know,

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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, they layden egg against San Francisco. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a lot of teams lay an egg against San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: How about Philadelphia's only lost this year was against the Jets.

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Speaker 2: How about that? I mean, I just feel like in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, you can't win every week.

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Speaker 1: Let's move forward now to the other side and CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 1: I mean the guy. Obviously, Carolina might have made the

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Speaker 1: early returns are in Stroud's favor at number two overall.

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Speaker 1: He's just so calm. It feels like nothing really bothered.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun to watch, isn't it. I mean, not

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Speaker 2: from a fan. If you're a Jaguars fan, you don't

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Speaker 2: want to watch this, but from every other week, I

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Speaker 2: Tank Dell is a problem. We saw that in the

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Speaker 2: first Jaguars game. He's coming off a big game last

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Speaker 2: it out and it's going to be on that Jacksonville

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Speaker 2: I think one of the big things in this game

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Speaker 1: Andrew Cattle on CBS Sports, Jaguars defense really good against

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Speaker 1: That's what, pretty much to a man, they said they

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Speaker 1: pass rush, That's when everybody's asked, Sure, but they're doing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what it's all about. Takeaways are so

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Speaker 2: you know, the Special team's mistakes really was what changed

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Speaker 2: I think that would that would turn the ball game

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Speaker 1: Andrew is this Texans team built for year over year

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Speaker 1: success outside of the quarterback position. What where do they

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Speaker 1: stand in the pecking order? I hate, and I don't

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Speaker 1: use the word hate a lot, but I hate power rankings. However,

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Speaker 1: how do you how do you see the South right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Jacksonville is still the favorite. That could

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Speaker 2: change here against the Texans in terms of just the standings,

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Speaker 2: But I like Jacksonville's talent. You know, Houston had a

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Speaker 2: good draft. Obviously Stroud and is will Anderson is a problem.

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Speaker 2: know they're only going to be getting more draft capital.

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Speaker 2: you know, I think that where this team was two

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Speaker 2: big difference. I still think they have to close the

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Speaker 1: Andrel is finished with your new setup this year. A

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Speaker 1: Tiki Barber. How's it gone so far? I saw a

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Speaker 1: is in the booth and you said, yeah, the backyard,

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Speaker 1: that's me. I love that. That's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: But what a crew, right, gosh, yeah, it's been fun.

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Speaker 2: I mean, every time a QB goes down, you know,

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Speaker 2: we expect Matt to get a call. But he's been

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Speaker 2: having a good time, and the three of us together

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Speaker 2: But I think the big thing is that nobody on

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Speaker 2: our crew has an ego. We all share the ball

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Speaker 2: it's been great. I mean Matt just off the field,

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Speaker 2: he's played with so many guys, I mean, Calvin Ridley

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Speaker 2: obviously it was his first quarterback, so that'll be fun

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Speaker 2: to see that him talking about Calvin in this game.

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Speaker 2: And then you know, Tiki is not that far removed,

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Speaker 2: and he you know, he has his own national New

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Speaker 2: And the three of us, along with aj Ross, have

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Speaker 2: been having a really good time this season.

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Speaker 1: Well, I hope this is the first of many times

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Speaker 1: we get you this season. This is amazing. It's Week

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Speaker 1: twelve and it's the first conversation we've had with you,

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Speaker 1: but it's always a pleasure. I appreciate your time

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Speaker 2: And man, and hope you had a great Thanksgiving