Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2: In this Wednesday, we'll talk to Arkansas head coach John Calipari.
Speaker 2: Sounds weird to say that. Also Jamal Crawford, Turner's Sports
Speaker 2: will join us. He's been working out Victor Weimbanyama. I
Speaker 2: was surprised at that, Marvin Goes. I got some social
Speaker 2: media pictures where Jamal Crawford's working out with the Victor.
Speaker 2: I go, let's get him on the show, so he'll
Speaker 2: join us. Coming up here in a little bit. Celtics
Speaker 2: prede is set for Friday. We'll have a game six
Speaker 2: Friday in the Stanley Cup Final, the Oilers over the
Speaker 2: Panthers five to three. And the passing of the Giants
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer Willie Mays at the age of ninety three.
Speaker 2: It's strange to say somebody is far greater than legendary,
Speaker 2: and to me, Willy Mays was not legendary. He was iconic.
Speaker 2: And there's a difference in that there's certain athletes in
Speaker 2: certain sports. You can have a legendary career or you
Speaker 2: can have an iconic career. And Willie Mays, as we've
Speaker 2: talked to throughout the show, had an iconic career. It
Speaker 2: wasn't just he was a spectacular baseball player. Was he
Speaker 2: was bigger than just being a great baseball player. And
Speaker 2: he came in four years after Jackie Robinson broke the
Speaker 2: color barrier. Willie did get some exposure in New York
Speaker 2: with the New York Giants and then went to San
Speaker 2: Francisco and played in that god awful Candlestick Park, the
Speaker 2: windy Candlestick Park. Once again, greatest centerfielder ever, And you
Speaker 2: factor in the winds and Candlestick and he was still
Speaker 2: the greatest center fielder ever. Not to mention three hundred
Speaker 2: stolen bases, six hundred and sixty home runs and batted
Speaker 2: three hundred the greatest all around player in baseball history.
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Speaker 2: special offers. He is the new head coach at Arkansas.
Speaker 2: It sounds weird. Does it sound weird to you? Or
Speaker 2: do you passed now that you're the Arkansas head coach,
Speaker 2: You're you're fine with it? Sounds sounds comfortable.
Speaker 3: No, it's comfortable. Look here's I've been at different jobs,
Speaker 3: you know. I was at UMass eight years, Memphis nine years,
Speaker 3: fifteen years at Kentucky. It's dog years now, and I
Speaker 3: loved it. And it was a great run. We helped
Speaker 3: a lot of families, won a lot of games, won
Speaker 3: a lot of league championships, final fours, Elite eights, national titles. Switching,
Speaker 3: I mean they needed to hear another voice. I wasn't
Speaker 3: planning on this, but when it came along, kind of
Speaker 3: like being a ESPN and then other opportunities come along
Speaker 3: and you say, wait a minute, I got to take
Speaker 3: advantage of this. Now, let me look. And over a
Speaker 3: two or three day period, I'm like, they're in the SEC. Two.
Speaker 3: They got great facilities, they have a great fan base,
Speaker 3: a great building that seats twenty thousand, great home court,
Speaker 3: pretty good support as you would know in this corner
Speaker 3: of Arkansas. The what's here? And then lastly, I got
Speaker 3: to hire my son. Now he's not one of my
Speaker 3: top three guys, but he's in. He's on court. He
Speaker 3: can go out and recruit a little bit and get started,
Speaker 3: and so a lot of good reasons and I'm excited
Speaker 3: about it. Let me help another thirty forty families. Then
Speaker 3: I'll go into doing a podcast. How about we do that?
Speaker 2: But did you did you jump before you were pushed?
Speaker 2: Can Can we be fair about the situation at Kentucky?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't. I don't think that was the case.
Speaker 3: But and again, it had nothing to do with fans.
Speaker 3: Fans you go to a nick game and they're playing bad,
Speaker 3: what are they doing in the second quarter they're doing
Speaker 3: I mean, fans are fans. Kentucky fans are engaged. They
Speaker 3: were exactly what you want in a fan. You lose
Speaker 3: a game you're not supposed to lose, and they're still engaged.
Speaker 3: So it had nothing to do with that. For me
Speaker 3: to do what I'm doing, I needed that tailwind, no headwinds.
Speaker 3: We needed to be able to move in what we
Speaker 3: were doing. And you know, as far as saying, well
Speaker 3: they pushed you out, no, I don't think that was
Speaker 3: the case. But again, let it be good for both.
Speaker 3: I mean, I had fifteen great years there. Let Mark
Speaker 3: Pope have fifteen great years. Let me finish how I
Speaker 3: want to finish. Let me build another program. Let's win
Speaker 3: another national championship. Let's help another twenty five families. Let
Speaker 3: me let me do this and you can. You and
Speaker 3: I've been when you didn't have gray hair. But we've
Speaker 3: been doing this a long time. And whether I was
Speaker 3: at UMass you and I you came in and miss
Speaker 3: jump shots, whether I was at Memphis and we were
Speaker 3: doing this in Kentucky over the years, I don't know.
Speaker 3: When I was with the Nets, did we do anything? Yes,
Speaker 3: oh we did. Yeah, it was after I got fired.
Speaker 4: Me.
Speaker 3: How do you feel now?
Speaker 2: I think I ask you why Kerry Kittles and not
Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant?
Speaker 3: Yeah you did that? You didn't that for twenty five years?
Speaker 2: Okay, how does Arkansas know you're available? If you're happy
Speaker 2: at Kentucky.
Speaker 3: A good friend of mine, John Tyson, he and I've
Speaker 3: been friends for twenty years. Tyson Chicken, Yeah, twenty years,
Speaker 3: twenty five years. Maybe tried to get me to take
Speaker 3: the job when I was in Memphis in two thousand
Speaker 3: and seven. Maybe, And at that time, Dan, if I left,
Speaker 3: I left players like they were there, and my assistant
Speaker 3: wasn't going to get the job. I wasn't comfortable just
Speaker 3: leaving and that was Derek Antonio Anderson, Chris Douglas, Robert
Speaker 3: Robert Dozer, Joey Dorsey. I can go on the guys
Speaker 3: that I would have left. So he calls me on
Speaker 3: a Thursday night. I'm at the Final four and he said, cow,
Speaker 3: it's Johnny and I said what's up? And he said,
Speaker 3: I need you to meet with the AD And I
Speaker 3: said what ad? They said, our a d at Arkansas.
Speaker 3: And I said, okay, what are we meeting about. Well,
Speaker 3: he wants to talk to you about candidates and the
Speaker 3: job and what he's trying to do, and why don't
Speaker 3: you meet with him? I said, okay, but I'm leaving
Speaker 3: town at one o'clock on Friday, So we got to
Speaker 3: meet at eleven eleven thirty and I'll give him an hour. Well,
Speaker 3: in the conversation, you can imagine if you think this
Speaker 3: is such a great job, why not you? And he said,
Speaker 3: give me fifteen minutes to talk about you. And then
Speaker 3: I looked at my watch and I said, I got
Speaker 3: to go. I got a guy downstairs who I'm flying
Speaker 3: with and I got to get down there. And he said, well,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do anything till you tell me now,
Speaker 3: and then we spent two days and I'll give you
Speaker 3: the conversation that change me. Kelvin Sampson and I've been
Speaker 3: friends for a long long time. I called Calvin to
Speaker 3: check on Hunter, the ad who had been at Houston
Speaker 3: with him. Well, he went crazy. I love him, He's
Speaker 3: the best, He's this, he's at Okay, okay, but I'm
Speaker 3: having a hard time because I'm gonna end up leaving players.
Speaker 3: And Calvin went crazy, what if you leave, they can leave,
Speaker 3: they can go where they want. They can go with you,
Speaker 3: they can go pro. What are you talking about. This
Speaker 3: isn't ten years ago? And then he said the one
Speaker 3: that got me, And if you stay, they can leave,
Speaker 3: they can go somewhere else, they can go pro. This
Speaker 3: is different. And you know what, that got me to
Speaker 3: think in a different way. And within thirty six hours,
Speaker 3: I said, you know what, I want this new challenge.
Speaker 3: I want to help a bunch of families. I want
Speaker 3: to bring something to that state and that program that
Speaker 3: explodes the state, and let's go. Let's go do this.
Speaker 2: Okay, Your recruiting philosophy at Kentucky was well known. Your
Speaker 2: recruiting philosophy at Arkansas is going to be what.
Speaker 3: I can't take seven freshmen until these rules change. Last
Speaker 3: year our team was average age was nineteen four. The
Speaker 3: team we played against and teams we played against were
Speaker 3: twenty four twenty three. We played against twenty six year olds,
Speaker 3: so that's nineteen as a freshman. He's twenty six. So
Speaker 3: I am still going to recruit the best freshmen. Probably
Speaker 3: take three or four, not seven. I can't take that many.
Speaker 3: You would hope a couple kids will stay and I'll
Speaker 3: bring in a couple transfers that are a little bit older.
Speaker 3: I don't want to have twelve guys you know who.
Speaker 3: I'm doing this like back in the day, a guy
Speaker 3: named Coach Smith, Dean Smith back in the day recruited
Speaker 3: for ten eleven and twelve, recruited specifically for that spot. Now,
Speaker 3: there may be injuries, the guy may be better than
Speaker 3: everybody thought, he may beat somebody else, but he's being
Speaker 3: recruited for ten eleven and twelve. I want eight or
Speaker 3: nine guys on scholarship, and il all that, and then
Speaker 3: I want ten eleven twelve. We got nine on scholarship.
Speaker 3: We're adding ten eleven twelve and they'll be good players,
Speaker 3: but they're not going to be, but it doesn't mean
Speaker 3: they can't beat somebody out. It's just I'm doing it
Speaker 3: kind of like North Carolina in the segment. Should I
Speaker 3: say seventy five eighty eight, Well, he was there till
Speaker 3: ninety he was doing it most of his career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the Arkansas head coach, John Caliperry. Can I
Speaker 2: have your Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Am You have to say that now, because they don't
Speaker 3: have anyone who I am.
Speaker 2: I know Arkansas head coach. He used to coach at Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Let me tell everybody, I'm here with Dan Patrick. You
Speaker 3: may not know him, but you're here with Dan Patty.
Speaker 2: We're both Hall of Famers coach, We're both we're both
Speaker 2: Hall of famers. All right, Can I have your Kentucky gear?
Speaker 2: It's gone already, Wait yard sale, come on, tag sail.
Speaker 2: Well it was in mass I sold No, I sold it.
Speaker 3: I just threw it in my house on I been
Speaker 3: on couches and all my friends and their kids came
Speaker 3: over and take what you want. The best items were
Speaker 3: the Kentucky shoes that had UK on them. Gone. Gave
Speaker 3: a great there.
Speaker 2: Come on, I could have put out in the man cave.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I got it's gone. It's it's uh.
Speaker 2: Why don't you help my family? You're always talking about
Speaker 2: helping others other families, What about mine? Why don't you
Speaker 2: help my family?
Speaker 3: Helped you?
Speaker 2: Well, I paid you to come to us, and so
Speaker 2: I put I put on an aerial display, and your
Speaker 2: you just can't acknowledge it. It's okay, Clark Kellogg was there.
Speaker 2: Clark Kellogg is a religious man who never lies, and
Speaker 2: he'll tell you the truth what happened that day. Okay,
Speaker 2: So go here, go ahead, go ahead, mock me, go live,
Speaker 2: living in denial, living in denial. Yeah, that's what you're doing. Okay.
Speaker 2: When Dan Hurley is entertaining the Lakers and vice versa,
Speaker 2: your thought was.
Speaker 3: I really like Danny, so I wanted what he wanted
Speaker 3: for he and his family. But he's in an unbelievable
Speaker 3: spot and he has a chance to keep that going.
Speaker 3: The only thing I thought that maybe play a part
Speaker 3: is in college basketball, at the end of every year,
Speaker 3: every kid is a free agent. Everyone. This is like
Speaker 3: being an NBA coach. Your season ends, you don't have
Speaker 3: anybody in the contract. They're all able to go and
Speaker 3: go and do what they want and then the nil
Speaker 3: knowing how that's playing out, and Danny, I know, And
Speaker 3: it was funny because Danny said, man quit wine and
Speaker 3: we're all making all this money. I'm more where. I'm
Speaker 3: fine here at Arkansas. But what if I were at UMass.
Speaker 3: What if Danny was still at Rhode Island, He'd be
Speaker 3: saying that, like to get guys to stay. So that
Speaker 3: would have been the only reason that I thought he
Speaker 3: would say. You know what, I don't want to deal
Speaker 3: with this. Some guys have retired. I'm just trying to
Speaker 3: be the best at this situation. The playpen we're in.
Speaker 3: How do we have the best toys? I mean, that's
Speaker 3: it isn't what I'd want, more guardrails, you know, I
Speaker 3: want kids to make money. You know high that is.
Speaker 3: But it's like, Okay, let's get it organized. Let's get organized,
Speaker 3: let's get guardrails. Let's figure out how this we don't
Speaker 3: hurt kids by what we're doing.
Speaker 2: Well, I wonder if we can get to a point
Speaker 2: where you sign a two year deal to go to college,
Speaker 2: and can can can we do something that like nil
Speaker 2: deals that your contract is for two years, or like,
Speaker 2: is there any give me a solution? You know, you're saying,
Speaker 2: let's solve it, give me a solution.
Speaker 3: First of all, I've been saying for five years.
Speaker 2: Now you're putting up ten fingers. That's ten. There you go,
Speaker 2: that's fine. That's FI.
Speaker 3: Five Pittsburgh five years to play, Yins, five years to
Speaker 3: play four, five years to play four. Which is the
Speaker 3: way it was when you played back in the forties.
Speaker 4: I mean, you had.
Speaker 3: Five years to play for If you got injured, you
Speaker 3: got an extra year. If you got red shirted, you
Speaker 3: got an extra year. What if you got hurt three
Speaker 3: different years? Buzzard luck, my man. I don't know what
Speaker 3: to tell you. This is amateur basketball right now. They
Speaker 3: just cleared Danza a player to play football for his
Speaker 3: ninth year. So I'm playing in a game last year
Speaker 3: where the guy making the shots is twenty six years old.
Speaker 3: Should have been out of school three years maybe four.
Speaker 3: So let's get back. We can do that now. They said, well,
Speaker 3: COVID and all stop. You're giving waivers to everybody five
Speaker 3: years to play four. Solved sixty seventy percent of our problem.
Speaker 2: You know what would have solved the problem is somebody
Speaker 2: guarded that guy during.
Speaker 3: The true made fo shots and all that, Yeah, let's
Speaker 3: not go back to that because I'm still sick over CoA.
Speaker 3: She's all I told Hunter the ad here. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm still hacked off over that game, he said. And
Speaker 3: I'm not happy, he said, Well, I'm happy. I'm happy
Speaker 3: it happened, you know. So but anyway, there's people look
Speaker 3: at Oakland's happy it happened.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's the other thing. If you stay at the same
Speaker 3: school four years, you get a fifth year. So now
Speaker 3: it rewards that. The guys that say, I'm deciding.
Speaker 2: Okay, if that kid at Oakland still had another year
Speaker 2: of eligibility, would you reach out to him to add
Speaker 2: him to Arkansas?
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that to my good friend. Oh you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not reaching out and doing that stuff. But he look,
Speaker 3: and I don't begrudge a kid to take advantage of
Speaker 3: the rules. He should have been playing because he was
Speaker 3: allowed to play. But it wasn't just him.
Speaker 2: There were Well, by the way, he was twenty four, Coach,
Speaker 2: you said twenty six, So.
Speaker 3: Who's in your ear? Because you wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I just googled it, so Jack, Yeah, yeah, okay, but again,
Speaker 2: shooters no shooters, So that's why you didn't know him.
Speaker 2: That's why you did not know him, Like who's hey,
Speaker 2: who's that guy out there?
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say you just so you know.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: If they came to me and said I need you
Speaker 3: to take a look at him, I already have and
Speaker 3: don't tell me to look more at him. I understand.
Speaker 3: I saw him shoot three airballs, and you were telling
Speaker 3: me he's a shoot.
Speaker 2: Once again, that's lying. See now, anything you say I
Speaker 2: have to go, he's he lies. He lied about the
Speaker 2: guy at Oakland Jack, who's twenty twenty four, twenty six.
Speaker 2: See once again, these things hurt you. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: help your credibility. Here, tell the truth, free your mind
Speaker 2: and the resk. I'll follow up.
Speaker 3: I had to help me, that's why. But the other
Speaker 3: side of it, with the nil I don't know. Now
Speaker 3: that they've gone to where they are, how do you
Speaker 3: reel it back in? I don't have the answer. How
Speaker 3: do you say, well, we're not going to do as
Speaker 3: much or you got to sign a two year deal.
Speaker 3: I don't have that answer. But I do know five
Speaker 3: to play fours the first and it's a solution that
Speaker 3: you can do.
Speaker 2: Did you change your number because I was on vacation
Speaker 2: in Italy, and I say, I leave the country and
Speaker 2: you leave Kentucky and then I never hear from you.
Speaker 2: Did you change your number? Did you go big time?
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have called you, but no, I didn't.
Speaker 2: You didn't respond to me. You could have texted me.
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't see you.
Speaker 2: Did Kentucky keep the phone?
Speaker 3: No, it's my phone. Okay, I got my own phone.
Speaker 3: I got my own email. I don't have a computer,
Speaker 3: but I got my own.
Speaker 2: Would have been nice though. On vacation, took time out
Speaker 2: to say, hey, are you in Italy? I was. I
Speaker 2: was there scouting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, yeah, trying to where did you vacation in Italy?
Speaker 2: I was Poolia. We're it's in the middle. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: in the middle.
Speaker 3: Family. I'm an Italian citizen too. By the way, I'm
Speaker 3: a dual citizen. I got a passport, all the stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get that. My wife is Italian, so
Speaker 2: I'm trying to trying to get Maybe you could help
Speaker 2: me on. This is where you help out a family.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not. No, it's too hard and I'm not okay,
Speaker 3: I've done one time it.
Speaker 2: Oh, let's get Mark Pope on talking to him. Somebody's
Speaker 2: going to go a little further this year. Who goes
Speaker 2: further this year? Arkansas or Kentucky in the tournament? Here,
Speaker 2: we're out of time. We're out of time. Thank you, coach.
Speaker 2: Always great to talk to you.
Speaker 3: Thanks you, guys. Man as good. Thank your hair a
Speaker 3: little bit. You're looking good, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: You're still doing it. Yeah, looking good. So he's got
Speaker 2: to look younger. Gotta look younger. You guys are like
Speaker 2: a comedy trip over there. Man, Then I'll look like
Speaker 2: coach cown. Let's take a break here. Jamal Crawford is
Speaker 2: going to join us, coming up next. What's he doing
Speaker 2: with Victor Wimbenyama? And is JJ Reddick the right coach
Speaker 2: for the Lakers? And he's portrayed in the series Clipped
Speaker 2: on the La Clippers. What's it like to watch a
Speaker 2: show where somebody's playing you? So we'll talk to Jamal
Speaker 2: Crawford next year on the Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2: More phone calls coming out. John Caliperi and I go
Speaker 2: back a long, long long way. Still still working both
Speaker 2: of us here. He's become one of my favorites. Loved
Speaker 2: talking to Jamal Crawford, Turner Sports NBA analyst won the
Speaker 2: sixth Man of the Year three times. Marvin says, Hey,
Speaker 2: you see this picture, Jamal is working out with Victor Wimbenyama.
Speaker 2: I go okay, Let's get Jamal on and find out
Speaker 2: how this happened. So Jamal Crawford joining us on the program,
Speaker 2: Good morning, Thanks for joining us. How did this happen
Speaker 2: with you and Victor working out together?
Speaker 7: Well, we go back to earlier this season when we
Speaker 7: had him on the show and I asked him you know,
Speaker 7: because he'd been doing some crazy moves. So I asked
Speaker 7: him about, you know, if he could do this particular
Speaker 7: move and he's like, yeah, I've been doing that for years.
Speaker 7: I'm like here, okay, And then we looked up at
Speaker 7: All Star and I just showed him some freestyle moves
Speaker 7: and from there our relationship kind.
Speaker 4: Of took off.
Speaker 2: Wait what did you show him?
Speaker 7: Well, I showed him, you know, a wrap around move
Speaker 7: where he wraps around his body. It's only reserved for
Speaker 7: tall guards.
Speaker 5: Damn.
Speaker 7: You know, guys with long arms that could pull this off.
Speaker 7: And I thought he could take it to the next level.
Speaker 7: But it was funny when I started showing him all
Speaker 7: the other rookie sophomores on the court, all the attention,
Speaker 7: they stopped shooting.
Speaker 4: They just went over there.
Speaker 7: I'm like, okay, let's just keep this surface level because
Speaker 7: everybody's watching right now.
Speaker 2: I kept maintaining during the season he needed a point
Speaker 2: guard to put him in positions. I get felt like
Speaker 2: in the first half of the season he'd get lost
Speaker 2: out there, he'd be out of position, he'd get bodied
Speaker 2: out of position. But can the Spurs get that point
Speaker 2: guard to help him? Because that feels like that's the
Speaker 2: next step in his evolution.
Speaker 7: They absolutely can, and I could see why it would
Speaker 7: take a little bit because he's such a unique talent
Speaker 7: and you can use him so many different places on
Speaker 7: the court, right Like, you can use him bring it
Speaker 7: up the ball, you can use them in the mid
Speaker 7: post area, you can use them in the post serie.
Speaker 7: He can shoot transition threes and do everything in between.
Speaker 7: So I understand popping those guys. That's thinking because you
Speaker 7: just don't know exactly what you have until you have it,
Speaker 7: and even then he can kind of stretch the imagination.
Speaker 7: But you're right, Getting that point guard to kind of
Speaker 7: grow with him and that fits him would definitely serve them.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: If you were advising Luca after what you saw in
Speaker 2: the finals, what would you say to him about the
Speaker 2: off season and his approach to next season? If anything?
Speaker 7: I would think for Luca, you know, he's such a
Speaker 7: smot of the basketball. Like I was telling somebody, he's
Speaker 7: been a pro since he was fifteen, so at twenty,
Speaker 7: he's kind of mastered how the game works. He's mastered
Speaker 7: playing against different styles, whether his physicality, whether it's quicker guys,
Speaker 7: whatever it might be. But I think for him, getting
Speaker 7: in the ultimate shape would help tremendously. And then I
Speaker 7: also think the more you give up the ball. I know,
Speaker 7: coming from me, it sounds crazy, but the more you
Speaker 7: give up the ball, the easier it is to actually
Speaker 7: score without using less energy and kind of conservative energy.
Speaker 7: And that's what you do at different times. I think
Speaker 7: he grew in that area with Kyrie and letting Kyrie
Speaker 7: take the leader of times. I think that's a level
Speaker 7: of growth to actually win the championship.
Speaker 2: But you're never going to have officials give you the
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt if you're constantly complaining to them.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 7: And he's too good to let that bother him or
Speaker 7: let anybody bother him, like, oh, I've joked before him,
Speaker 7: Like this guy plays when he's playing against the best defenses,
Speaker 7: he's playing like he has headphones on Dan. He does
Speaker 7: not get bothered by anybody. So don't let these guys
Speaker 7: bother you, because you're too good for them.
Speaker 2: The Celtics answered all the questions. Now, now we move
Speaker 2: on Jason Tatum. He got his title. Now we move
Speaker 2: on to Joe Ellenbiid or Luca as the next player
Speaker 2: who needs to win a title.
Speaker 4: Absolutely anybody else.
Speaker 7: Let me think Joel and b Luca Joker, Hardy has his.
Speaker 7: I think I think those are the two on deck.
Speaker 7: His Janis has his. I think those two are definitely
Speaker 7: on deck, and I think they're gonna prepare to do anything.
Speaker 7: But let me just say this about Tatum because I
Speaker 7: tweeted this. They were up to old Dan and he
Speaker 7: wasn't shooting well. He wasn't like, you know, having his
Speaker 7: normal scoring outburst, but he was hed just averaging ten
Speaker 7: rebounds or eight rebounds, ten assists at the time or
Speaker 7: vice versa.
Speaker 4: He was doing well.
Speaker 7: He's playing all around game. He just wasn't making shots,
Speaker 7: and people are like, what is he doing. I'm like,
Speaker 7: if you were down O two, I can understand, you know,
Speaker 7: kind of jumping on them. But they're up to old
Speaker 7: and we criticized him for not doing other things when
Speaker 7: he wasn't just scoring. Now he's doing that and they
Speaker 7: found the way wins. So I'm happy for their enough
Speaker 7: for the self. They deserve it.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: I thought he should have been MVP. It felt like
Speaker 2: he just had Jason Tatum numbers where Jalen Brown was
Speaker 2: a little better or with his numbers than what we
Speaker 2: expect therefore, it felt like he was more valuable. But
Speaker 2: you know, it still comes down you got to stop Tatum,
Speaker 2: and even when you stop him, he can still beat
Speaker 2: you or help his teammates in other ways.
Speaker 7: And look at all he's accomplished at twenty six years old.
Speaker 7: First Team All of the NBA, a few times, All Star,
Speaker 7: he'll be an Olympian this summer, like all those things
Speaker 7: that go All Star VP, like all those things that
Speaker 7: go into it. I think now in his totality, I
Speaker 7: thought him or Luke who were going to look at
Speaker 7: their whole careers a little bit differently. I think moving
Speaker 7: forward for him, I think that changed a lot. But
Speaker 7: I'm just glad that Boston actually kept those two together.
Speaker 7: Remember a few years back, Yeah, everybody was like break
Speaker 7: them up, right, Like, no, those two need each other.
Speaker 7: And now they're kind of set up in a way,
Speaker 7: especially in the East, where they can have a run.
Speaker 4: For a while.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Jamal Crawford, the Turner Sports NBA analyst,
Speaker 2: the series about the Clippers when you were there with
Speaker 2: Donald Sterling. It's called Clipped. What's it like to watch
Speaker 2: a show where somebody is portraying you in the show.
Speaker 7: It's fascinating because I looked at him, I said, that's
Speaker 7: not me, but it was. It was crazy because the
Speaker 7: hair was totally different. He had a long sleeved shirt.
Speaker 7: I'm like, I don't think that's me. But just to
Speaker 7: be on the show, you remember a different and like things.
Speaker 7: I remember Sterling walking into the locker room. I remember
Speaker 7: that day. It only happened one time in the five
Speaker 7: years I was there. And no, he didn't get kicked out,
Speaker 7: but he came in with ten different people and he
Speaker 7: was singing hiph It beat like we had won a
Speaker 7: championship as a regular season game, So that part was
Speaker 7: a little different, But it's been it's been hilarious to
Speaker 7: watch the characters. They could have did a little bit
Speaker 7: better casting because that that that.
Speaker 2: Chris Paul not passed to portray you, and that was
Speaker 2: hard to do as well. They needed to, you know,
Speaker 2: to find a gunner.
Speaker 4: They needed a gunner. They needed a gun slinger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a slader. But okay, that's a chaotic time. At
Speaker 2: least it feels like that. Did you guys realize what
Speaker 2: was going on? Like how chaotic this was from the
Speaker 2: outside looking at at the Clippers to be honest with you.
Speaker 7: He was never around like he would come to games,
Speaker 7: but we never actually had interactions with him. So the
Speaker 7: most chaotic stuff was when after Game three, we're in
Speaker 7: San Francisco and all the tapes came out. And even then,
Speaker 7: when the tapes came out, what we were told was
Speaker 7: all the owner sets and things. We're like, oh, he's
Speaker 7: a little different anyway, we sure he said. And then
Speaker 7: when we heard the tapes, we had to have another
Speaker 7: meeting after film session, and theyn't really talk about how
Speaker 7: we're going to move and navigate going forward, and that
Speaker 7: part is true, and Cliff that some of us were like, no,
Speaker 7: we're not comfortable playing, and then others were like, well,
Speaker 7: let's talk through this thing. And it was a two
Speaker 7: or three hour meeting to kind of get everybody on
Speaker 7: the same page. And even then it still didn't feel
Speaker 7: completely right.
Speaker 2: I had Laurence fishburn on a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 2: the great actor, portraying Doc Rivers, and they said, what
Speaker 2: did you know about Doc Rivers? He goes nothing, He
Speaker 2: didn't even know who Doc Rivers was.
Speaker 4: Think about that, Think about that, and I saw that
Speaker 4: clip and I was crying, laughing.
Speaker 7: I'm like he knew nothing about Doc Rivers, but to
Speaker 7: his credit, he's nailed every manner, Like even when Doc
Speaker 7: got nab and yell, everything.
Speaker 4: Was to a team.
Speaker 2: Are the Celtics a great team historically? Like is this season?
Speaker 2: Are they going to be remembered for pick out whatever
Speaker 2: Bulls team or Celtic team or Laker team. Are they
Speaker 2: in that category for this season alone?
Speaker 4: Not sure?
Speaker 7: Yeah, And maybe with how things are looked at now,
Speaker 7: things happen fast, there's always a new cycle going on.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure they're looked at as an all time
Speaker 4: great team. Last night, it was weird.
Speaker 7: I was watching Kevin Durant his first run in the
Speaker 7: finals with Golden State. They were sixteen and one. He
Speaker 7: averaged thirty five five and like five like that was
Speaker 7: like some other worldly stuff. And they were playing against
Speaker 7: a healthy Cavs team at the time and Lebron and
Speaker 7: like that felt like an all time playoff finals run.
Speaker 7: I'm not sure this team feels like that, even though
Speaker 7: they checked the boxes with the numbers and some of
Speaker 7: the eye teps.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, they're not better than Golden State. They're
Speaker 2: not better than the eighty six Celtics or throwing Magic's
Speaker 2: Lakers or Mike's Bulls. Yeah, I certainly understand that. Speaking
Speaker 2: of it, what do you have?
Speaker 4: What do you have with them all time?
Speaker 2: Right in that conversation, I don't think they're an all
Speaker 2: time great single season team. But I think what's not
Speaker 2: fair to them is they didn't go through any great teams.
Speaker 2: I didn't think Dallas was a great team. I think
Speaker 2: Boston built a great team, and that's a team that
Speaker 2: would be able to compete against any of these teams
Speaker 2: because of their versatility and they have depth there. But
Speaker 2: I'd have a hard time lumping them in as a
Speaker 2: top ten great team of all time individually. Monty Williams
Speaker 2: got fired this morning, so he's with the Pistons. Is
Speaker 2: there any chance the Lakers would be interested in Monty
Speaker 2: Williams or is this a foregone conclusion? Would you at
Speaker 2: least reach out if you're the Lakers, would you rather
Speaker 2: have Monty Williams or would you have JJ Reddick? If
Speaker 2: I make you Rob Polenka right now, right now.
Speaker 7: That's a good question because Moni's had obviously successes. He
Speaker 7: helped take Phoenix to the finals, but then you see
Speaker 7: what happens to Detroit as a younger team. I think
Speaker 7: Mani's built more for VET teams, so I can see that.
Speaker 7: But there's something about JJ that's exciting, and I think
Speaker 7: that's why so many people are it's fascinating. First time coach.
Speaker 7: You know, he's only coached his kids like I have,
Speaker 7: but you know he's a brilliant basketball mind. You know
Speaker 7: he loves the game. You know he can make adjustments.
Speaker 7: Whoever is the coach, I feel like it's going to
Speaker 7: have to be on board, like lock and key with
Speaker 7: Lebron and Ad. And I'm not saying anybody hasn't been,
Speaker 7: but just know that going forward because at this point,
Speaker 7: Lebron's you know, the end is close to the beginning.
Speaker 7: I think everything has to be tailored to what AD
Speaker 7: wants to do because he's the president and the future,
Speaker 7: and Lebron's the president right now, right so he has to.
Speaker 4: Be lock and key with whoever is the coach.
Speaker 2: What if AD says I don't want us to draft BRONNI.
Speaker 8: Know that.
Speaker 2: I know. I'm just saying, you know, if it's his team,
Speaker 2: be like, why are we wasting a second round pick
Speaker 2: on Brownie?
Speaker 4: But what's what's interesting about Ad?
Speaker 7: Even when it's his team is he would be okay
Speaker 7: if they got like a third star and he was
Speaker 7: like not necessarily the focal point of the offense because
Speaker 7: he's so unselfish and he could do so many different things.
Speaker 7: People forget Kentucky. He was more known for his defense,
Speaker 7: so he's comfortable doing other things. So now if Brownnie's
Speaker 7: on board, I haven't feeling Brownie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Who's a better shooter? You are Reddick?
Speaker 4: I think spot shooting. I think he is. I think
Speaker 4: off the Drewel, I think it's me so I think
Speaker 4: both forded.
Speaker 2: So if you went one on one, oh, I may have.
Speaker 7: The advantage, man, I might, I might, But Reddick has
Speaker 7: a better one on one game that people would think,
Speaker 7: like you can get to a stuff.
Speaker 4: He has a little right to left crossover pull up.
Speaker 2: But one on one shooting, I think, I wait, did
Speaker 2: you just call him sneaky athletic? Is what you did
Speaker 2: right there, Jamal?
Speaker 4: He had those.
Speaker 2: You could you beat Jordan right now? Michael Jordan in
Speaker 2: the game of one on one?
Speaker 4: Yeah, right now?
Speaker 7: The second he's sixty sixty plus, I can get him
Speaker 7: right now. But that's the only time I can. Then
Speaker 7: at thirty nine or forty years old when he was
Speaker 7: my age equivalent to mi A. She wasn't playing at
Speaker 7: forty four Resent Hiss forty. Yeah, he was still like
Speaker 7: dominating Prime All Stars. He was dominating against the Antonino
Speaker 7: Walkers and the Mike Finleys, and he was like he
Speaker 7: he averaged I think twenty five and five until yet
Speaker 7: that knee injury with the Wishes.
Speaker 4: We can look that up. He was over with the
Speaker 4: only two at that time. Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: But you could take him at sixty.
Speaker 4: If me right now sixty, I might be able to
Speaker 4: get him one one and only time. But yeah, we
Speaker 4: know him. He's still a threat.
Speaker 8: Killing him up.
Speaker 2: He doesn't. I'm sure he'd hear this and he'd be like,
Speaker 2: give me a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: I did read, yes, weeks.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you.
Speaker 2: I don't know the next time we'll talk to you,
Speaker 2: but I want to thank you for being available during
Speaker 2: the season. You've come a long way, done a great job,
Speaker 2: and I hope you got I know you have a
Speaker 2: bright future. I hope you get opportunities down the road.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 4: You're a legend. I'm always honored to bell.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 2: That's Jamal Crawford. He played twenty seasons, six Man of
Speaker 2: the Year three times, got good stories, he's fun, got
Speaker 2: an opinion, pinned him down on would you rather take
Speaker 2: Monny Williams or JJ Reddick? Said he rather, He kind
Speaker 2: of said he would rather take JJ Reddick, although Moni's
Speaker 2: good with veteran teams. Well, that's what you have with
Speaker 2: the Lakers there. All right, we close up shop. I
Speaker 2: got to get phone calls here. People have been on
Speaker 2: hold for a while. Try to squeeze all of that in.
Speaker 2: So we'll have this day in sports history and what
Speaker 2: we learned, and what's the store tomorrow?
Speaker 1: After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls, what we learned, what's in
Speaker 2: store tomorrow, and we'll try to accomplish all of that.
Speaker 2: Let me get a couple of phone calls in here.
Speaker 2: Alex in Utah, Hi, Alex, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 9: Dan?
Speaker 8: Six one and a soft one ninety four st.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 8: About twelve years ago, a group of us went down
Speaker 8: to Arizona to spring training, and we learned that the
Speaker 8: Giants executives hold the party every year at the same
Speaker 8: Italian restaurant, and so we all decided to go to
Speaker 8: that restaurant that night to try to meet some players
Speaker 8: and get some autographs. And we were outside and at
Speaker 8: the end of the party, you know, we met Barry
Speaker 8: Bonds and Jeff Kent and Bruce Bochi and Buster Posey
Speaker 8: and Ken Limspcam and it was really really cool. Anyway,
Speaker 8: my father in law and I decided we need to
Speaker 8: go to the bathroom and we went into the bathroom
Speaker 8: in the restaurant and there were three urinals. And when
Speaker 8: there's two guys and three urinals, obviously is you split
Speaker 8: the middle so you're not standing right next to each other.
Speaker 8: And right after that, Willie Mays walks in and he
Speaker 8: pulls into the middle urinal and I looked over to
Speaker 8: my left and I see who it is, and then
Speaker 8: I lean give the lean back, and I look back
Speaker 8: to my father in law and I whispered, that's Willie Mays,
Speaker 8: and my father in law says, yeah, I know. And
Speaker 8: so it was we finished up and washing our hands
Speaker 8: in the bathroom. He comes around and was just the
Speaker 8: nicest guy and shook our hands and talked to us
Speaker 8: for a couple of minutes in the bathroom, and we
Speaker 8: left and his security detail took him and he was gone.
Speaker 8: But he was such a cool guy and it's totally
Speaker 8: sad for baseball that he died.
Speaker 2: Well, you've got a great story there, stood next to
Speaker 2: Willie Mays. Yes, Tom.
Speaker 1: The best problem was when Alex took a sneak peek.
Speaker 2: And said, hey, too soon, too soon? He is a
Speaker 2: five tool player. Uh, Matt in Tulsa. If I live
Speaker 2: to be ninety three, you can make fun of me
Speaker 2: when I die. Okay, I'm just saying, hey.
Speaker 10: Matt, Hey, how's it going, Dan?
Speaker 8: Hey?
Speaker 10: Sick one, skinny fat one ninety So I wanted to
Speaker 10: throw out a little bit about my dad here. We
Speaker 10: were talking about, you know, being known for, you know,
Speaker 10: not your best. And he played played professional baseball twelve years,
Speaker 10: nine years in the big leagues. Was a relief pitcher
Speaker 10: in nineteen eighty one against the Dodgers.
Speaker 8: He lost.
Speaker 10: He holds the record for the most losses in the
Speaker 10: World Series, little little little Does everybody remember that he
Speaker 10: won one in eighty seven with the Twins and was
Speaker 10: you know, was a great pitcher.
Speaker 8: In the big leagues.
Speaker 10: Well, in nineteen ninety four, I believe is my freshman
Speaker 10: year in high school. We you know, the seventh inning
Speaker 10: stretch trivia question was who holds the losses for the
Speaker 10: most or who holds the most losses in the World
Speaker 10: Series by a pitcher, and it was it was George Fraser.
Speaker 10: And I got to lunch that day and a guy
Speaker 10: named Sam Romin decided to throw at my face and
Speaker 10: my dad was a loser. I proceed to what was
Speaker 10: ass and got suspended for ten days to follow. So
Speaker 10: George Fraser was a stud. Unfortunately we lost him a
Speaker 10: year ago today. And you know, he was in the
Speaker 10: media for twenty years.
Speaker 8: The Colorado Rockies is their color.
Speaker 10: Guy on Fox. Got to call Bonds I think seventieth
Speaker 10: or seventy first home run when he broke the record
Speaker 10: in two thousand and one. And anyways, he has he
Speaker 10: has one of the greatest quotes. And I'm gonna let
Speaker 10: you go. It's on a poster. You can get it
Speaker 10: at Home Goods or whatever. But it was the media
Speaker 10: asked him one time, you know, hey, do you ever
Speaker 10: use any ford and substances on your baseball? Because George
Speaker 10: was was a well known cheater but never got caught.
Speaker 10: And he said, no, everything I use in my baseballs
Speaker 10: is made right here in the USA.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 2: So his dad's a known cheater. What are you saying?
Speaker 2: That's hilarious? George in Ohio? Hey George, what's happening.
Speaker 5: That's been a long time.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 5: Of course, I'm sad to hear about Willie Mays. Arguably
Speaker 5: the best of all time, and he was traded from
Speaker 5: San Francisco I think in seventy one or seventy two.
Speaker 5: But around that time there were some other notable players
Speaker 5: also traded. George Foster, Dave Kingman, Bobby Bonds, I think
Speaker 5: Gary Matthews. Who's the Maddix that played for the Phillies,
Speaker 5: Elliott or.
Speaker 2: Gary Gary Maddox.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, yeah, that's quite a bit of talent
Speaker 5: that you got of. I don't know if that helped
Speaker 5: them out or not getting rid of.
Speaker 2: Them guys well, And I think if you trying to
Speaker 2: think back, George Foster was traded I think in like
Speaker 2: seventy six, seventy seven, somewhere around that to the Mets.
Speaker 2: Kathy in California, Hi Ken thanks for holding Hi.
Speaker 3: Good morning.
Speaker 9: This is Kathy. I'm my first callered from Long Beach, California.
Speaker 9: I can't hi eight I had hey. I had to
Speaker 9: call because Willie May when I started dating my husband
Speaker 9: in nineteen sixty six, he was a clubhouse boy at
Speaker 9: Dodger Stadium, so he got to meet all the great
Speaker 9: Willie Mays, Willy mccavey, Hank Aaron, Eddie Matthews, Coofax and
Speaker 9: Drysdale of course, and sadly he didn't get any signed baseball.
Speaker 9: We had great, great memories of those times. We watched
Speaker 9: you every day on Peacock. Well at least he does.
Speaker 9: I hear you every day on Peacock and I'm a
Speaker 9: big sports fan. But I just had the urge to
Speaker 9: call and share that story because he said that it
Speaker 9: was times of his life. Is seeing down there for
Speaker 9: five dollars driving on a motorcycle from sea to Dodger
Speaker 9: Stadium every night, It was it was quite the experience.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Kathy, thank you for sharing. Yeah, those
Speaker 2: moments when you're younger, like it takes on a different life.
Speaker 2: It's so much more important because you didn't have all
Speaker 2: this clutter of being a grown up. You just you
Speaker 2: loved your team and you loved your players. You don't
Speaker 2: have to worry about all this other stuff. Responsibilities, Todd,
Speaker 2: what'd you learn today? Judy and Fresno named your son
Speaker 2: Jackie Mays after Jackie Rebinson and William Mason. He doesn't
Speaker 2: even like baseball, see no O'Connor. Mike Florio might be
Speaker 2: due for an ass kicking, Yes he is. What about you,
Speaker 2: Marvin JJ Redick has sneaky handles, Yeah, PAULI coach Cal's
Speaker 2: out of Kentucky, Dear, Yeah, he is got rid of
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