WEBVTT - Ep07 - Andrew Garfield / "Hacksaw Ridge" 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:24.320 Welcome to Playback, a Variety podcast. On today's show, we're 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:26.920 talking about the recently wrapped New York Film Festival, where 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:30.040 Ang Lee's latest film faced some tough criticism. A little 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:31.680 bit later, I'll be talking to Hack's All Ridge and 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:50.280 Silent star Andrew Garfield. So stick around, all right, everyone, 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.800 I'm here with Janelle Riley again. How are you doing? 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.080 This room is very dusty and it's making my allergies crazy. 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:57.960 So if we sniffle the whole time, I'm doing the 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.000 same thing, that is my champion. I sound like Donald Trump. 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:07.000 It was not um. You know, the New York Film 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.160 Festival just wrapped up. Did you go out there at all? 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:12.800 I actually happened to be out there for the Hampton's 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:15.360 Film Festival and in New York, but kind of the 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:16.920 last thing I want to do on my day off 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:20.840 was go to and honestly, they weren't screened anything I 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:24.040 hadn't already seen. So yeah, well, the big story out 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.160 of there, and neither of us can really speak to 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.759 it because we haven't seen the film. But Billy Lynn's 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:32.840 long halftime walk really hit the skids with critics. A 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.640 lot of criticism aimed at the twenty frames per second, 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:39.840 which you know, I mean, I I can't. I haven't 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:41.920 seen the movie. I love Angle. I still am going 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:43.760 to see the movie. I have to say, I do 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:48.080 not like the multi frame rate. When I saw the Hobbit, 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:52.520 I mean had some problems, but really hated the way 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:54.920 it looked. And just reading what people were saying, and 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:56.640 they meant it as praise when they were saying how 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:58.560 crisp the picture was, and you can see the pores 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:00.560 on their nose, I was like, that's how it's awful. 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:03.760 That sounds. I feel like offers actors think that sounds awful. 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.440 Part of the idea here is to hide between those 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:09.400 those the flicker of the frames, you know, and you 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.200 can't hide makeup, you can't hide production design, you can't 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:15.320 hide background. I don't know that are just doing busy 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.760 work back there. Well for him, I I as I 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:20.480 understand it. It was, you know, it's just for the 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.800 war scenes, and it's too kind of carry across this 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:27.120 idea of the hyper real memory you had have of 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.360 a of a battle sequence and stuff like that. And 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:30.640 I get it. I mean, he's an artist, and I'm 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.040 sure he had a very artistic reason to use it, right? 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.680 Who am I to questioning? At the same time, I 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:37.440 find it takes me out of a movie. Yeah, well 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.120 we'll see when we see it. That's the other thing 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:41.400 is they couldn't even they couldn't have a projector over 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.399 here to to show it in that framework, right, don't 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:47.840 they have to show this movie properly? When it's released commercially, 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:49.640 there will only be two theaters in the country showing 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.240 it at frames per second, Which brings up my next point, 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.760 which is of the people that see this movie, you're 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:56.480 not going to see it this way, so you know, 0:02:56.520 --> 0:03:00.920 if a tree falls in the woods, yeah, like what's 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:04.000 or if a movie bombs in New York in New York. 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:05.679 And that's the other thing. I think going to the 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.960 New York Film Festival might not have been the best 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:11.680 way to yeah this movie because take Life of Pie 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:16.520 there sentimental. I guess maybe he's been there with like 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.280 his Western what was that film called The Devil? I 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.040 feel like maybe that person who actually likes to the Devil, 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:27.079 I'm such a hardcore angle and the Criterion version. That's 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:30.360 because I own like every Western, But yeah, I think 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.480 you know, and he's they took the walk there last year, 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.120 Sony did. They've been taking movies there Captain Phillips the 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.960 last couple of years, so uh, it made sense for 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.400 them to go there, I guess. But this movie is 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.080 a particular movie, and it just seems like it didn't 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:45.080 work out for them. We'll see it in two weeks 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:48.480 when the projector finally gets over here. I don't know, 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.600 were in Los Angeles storeroom. They don't even know where 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.440 it's going to release commercially over here. I don't know 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:56.720 if they know in New York either, But what the budget? 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:58.560 Do you know? I don't I mean, this couldn't have 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:00.800 been a cheap movie. Yeah, I don't know. I I 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:05.040 so admire Angley, like, you know, taking chances and doing 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:07.840 new things, and when it pays off, it's amazing, you know, 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:12.240 Life of Pie, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. Um, But I 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.360 just don't know. I was. I was really disappointed to read. 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.760 I liked what he tried to do with Hulk oh. 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.440 I actually like it. Tried to bring a comic book alive. 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.320 It's kind of got the split screen stuff, and it 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:24.720 tried to put you there. I mean that's an example 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.040 of it. You liked it, apparently, but there's an example 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.560 of it, but I'm not really working. I'm a fan 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.000 of that one I see. I actually think it's funny 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:37.080 and you know, entertaining, and maybe I just love the Hulk. 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.080 Maybe maybe there's some lou for Rigno crushed from my 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.839 childhood that keeps to Comic CON's selling autographs for forty 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:46.280 bucks pop every year forty I think so. I used, 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:51.479 he's moving on up. But that was that was the 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:55.160 kind of the big premiere in New York, along with Duvernet, Uh, 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.599 which we kind of talked about years ago. You've seen 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:02.240 it since, God, so stunning and upsetting and beauty. You 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.240 agree with me that should be the best picture considered. Yeah, 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.240 I just said it. I said, that's that's my one 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.160 for this around. You know, she's she's serious. Yeah, it's 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:13.200 easily one of the best movies of the year. Yeah. 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:17.120 And yeah, and and and I think, uh, twenty Century 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.080 Women also screamed out there. I guess that would have 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:24.400 been the Was that the premiere I think it was 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.599 because it didn't premiere Toronto. Yeah, that was that was 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.560 the world premiere center. It was the centerpiece film in 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.960 New York. Yeah, said screened in l a screen just 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:33.919 ahead of that, and that's when I saw it, and 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.600 you saw it. I'm a fan. I like Mike Mills, 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.159 I like I like his voice. Yeah, he just really 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.159 does a good job of getting his voice into his work. 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.040 And I like Beginners better. I think it's a tighter movie. 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:47.120 Beginners is kind of perfect. Yeah, and and and I 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:51.120 think Twentieth Century Women starts to just wander a bit 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:52.920 in the middle of the movie. It loses its focus 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.760 a little, but I still love the tone. I loved 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.360 kind of luxuriating in the world he created. And I 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.080 thought that Bending was great. The actors are great. I 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.840 thought Greta Girlwig was It's the best, right. Yeah, I'm 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:08.040 glad someone else has said that, because l Fanning was fantastic. Yes, 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.280 she's good, but Gretta man, Yeah, I mean she's there's 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.160 so much going on with that character, and she's got 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:16.000 this history to kind of work through, and I think 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:17.960 it's her best performance. And I do think she has 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:21.120 a shot in the supporting category. Did you hear I 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.719 think someone told me that Mike Mills made Beginners for 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.680 his father and made Twenty Century Women for his mother, 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.479 and it is interesting how they are sort of the 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.839 movie Cousins, you know. Yeah, there's certain things he uses 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:34.760 in Beginners, you know, when he would show the pictures 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:36.839 and be like, this is what love looks like. He 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:40.240 does something similar in Twenty Century Women, but doesn't lay 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.720 it on too thick, So they are two very different movies. Yeah, 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:44.880 he's talked about that he likes to play with time 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:47.920 in his editorial, like, because you know, you don't really 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:51.839 experience time chronologically. You experienced it through memories and things 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:53.080 like that. So he tries to play with that and 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.479 the way he dits movies, and it definitely does that 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:59.000 in this one. And yeah, absolutely Beginners is like a 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:00.560 love letter to his father, and this is a love 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:04.120 letter to his mother, and and that Benning. You know, 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.200 I think there was a period where it was they 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.640 were keeping options open about supporting her lead she could. 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:11.520 I mean a lot of times when you see like 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:15.040 Alicia Vickender in Danish Girl and she goes supporting it's 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.280 like obvious category fraud. I have to say, this movie 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.760 is really kind of the main Boys story. Like I 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:23.960 actually think of a net Bennie went supporting it, would 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.800 I would get it. I feel the same way. I 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:30.320 mean the problem is he of all of the characters, 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:31.720 he's the one you don't really learn a lot of it. 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:35.120 He's very learned about everybody else, So everybody else kind 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.280 of stands out. And the Net having this big performance, 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.600 it feels like a lead in it. It's arguably a lead, 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.680 arguably supporting because she's a Net Benning. Like, I don't 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:44.840 know if anyone else think that's what the boils down to. 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.440 As far as an Oscar campaign is concerned, too, it's like, no, 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:49.800 not going. I mean, she's getting nominated in either category. 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.160 I think I feel the same way about Violet Davis 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.880 without even so even though we haven't seen it, we're like, like, 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.720 she's the front runner all around wherever she could go. 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.560 In the best director category we put it in. And 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:01.960 I know, a couple of weeks ago, I said that 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.880 lead is I mean that supporting is not happening. Uh. 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:10.040 I still feel pretty strong, but it is still a question. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.280 And I think everyone's looking at that campaign, what is 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.200 she going to do? A lot of people would like 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.160 her to get out of that category because it frees 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.720 up space for you know, a Ruthnega or Taragi p 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:24.000 Henson perhaps or you know, assuming that the category is 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.520 laid out the way we assume it is, which is like, 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.480 you know Meryl, you think Meryl is a lock. I 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.080 think she's strong. She's Meryl. I think she's strong. But 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.000 I think in a year where you have people on 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:36.400 the bubble that could get in, like you know Amy Adams, 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.560 who's fantastic in two different movies. Um, I think Emma 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:45.000 Stones a lock. I mean, and that Benning so and 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.600 Natalie Portman, Oh yeah, obviously Natalie Portman. And then we've 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.960 got I feel this kind of fifth spot. It is 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.680 like assumably Viola if she's going lead, and I think 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.480 that she's probably strong enough to win in either category 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.360 wherever she is. Yeah, I mean, she wonted Tony and 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.680 she's Viola Davis. And you've seen the trailer. There's a 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.720 lot of snot going on. It worked in down, it 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:07.840 worked in doubt. You know, it's going to be a big, 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.800 powerful performance, you know. So it is in the play 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.120 a supporting role, and I've heard that they've beat it 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.120 up for the movie, but I mean, I am curious. 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.000 It's it's strange that usually if someone is lesser known, 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.640 like an Alicia Vickender, they put her in supporting even 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.520 when it's clearly a lead role. But if you're as 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.640 establishes Viola Davis, it works the opposite way. Sometimes you 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:29.920 get in the lead category when it's really a supporting role. 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.360 But with Viola, it may be a supporting role, but 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.160 is it a supporting performance? And I know that's a 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:36.600 weird thing to say, but like that's kind of what 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:38.559 we're talking about with the net. It's it's sort of 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.920 a leading performance but a supporting role. Well, I mean, 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.560 you know, the great example is Hannibal Lector in Silence 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:48.760 of the Lambs had something like, yeah, but you know 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.960 everybody wants from that movie, you know, talking about Hannibal Lector, 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:56.920 which is a weird comparison to make when I definitely 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.959 or at betting for that man. We'll see how different role. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:03.000 But yeah, suffice it to say, everyone's keeping an eye 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:06.520 on that campaign. Yeah, I mean, you know, I really 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.199 want Amy I'm to be nominated for Arrival. Um. I 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.880 love that movie. I love that performance. Uh, she's kind 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.120 of on the bubble, you know. I'd like her to 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.200 have more secure slot. I think she's more secure than 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.319 merriw really. Yeah, I definitely disagree with you. Well, well, 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:21.640 we have to wait and see how the movie does 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.480 actually does, and they're gonna bring They're gonna be bringing 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.640 Florence back around too. It's not good like they're going 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.360 to be. They're gonna do their tastemakers and have their things. 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:30.920 And I know you and I are big fans of 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:34.360 Florence Foster Jenkins, and I love Hugh Grant's performance. And 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:38.840 is he a sure thing? Sure thing but pretty secure? 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:40.280 I think he's I think he's a good bet right now. 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:44.319 I mean, look, I have it for picture actress, supporting actor, 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.040 a couple of below the lines. Like, I think it's 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.640 a strong player across the board. Good Golden Globes are 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:51.800 going to be fit up to whenever it comes to that. 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:53.840 So I like your column today where you said, like 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.480 the Golden Globes Comedy Musical category is a race to 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.040 see who will lose to Lala basically, right. I mean, 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.079 it's just four more slots to fill there, and it's 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:05.640 a pretty thin race. I think beyond Florence Foster Jenkins 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.040 in La La Land, it's pretty wide open. You're right. 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.720 Literally got an email from Fox. What about Deadpool? You 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.960 know that's it's funny you would say that, because I've 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.560 heard a lot of people say that, Like Globes voters 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.080 really love Deadpool and they love Ryan Reynolds and he's 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:23.880 a big star. So that hp A there there are 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:25.719 fans of Deadpool and hfp A. Now, I don't know 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.800 how much of that is actual love for the movie 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.400 or actual love for Ryan Reynolds. But let's be honest, 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.559 how great would it be if they nominated a true 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.360 comedy It would be pretty Deadpool, yeah, absolutely, or the 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:39.400 nice guys, great guys. I would love to see Russell 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:43.560 Crowe nominated for performance. Ryan's already getting nominated, but like, like, 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.080 Russell Crowe was hilarious in that movie. Did you go 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.760 to the American Cinema Tech Award? I did not. He 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:50.800 kind of gave a good case for why he should 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.040 host the Oscars. Russell Crowe, Russell Crowell. I saw him 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:57.480 on Saturday Night Live. I was at the dress rehearsal 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.000 where there's like ten times more sketches that they cut, 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:04.360 and the guy is he's a chameleon and a comedic genius. 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:06.920 I mean, like some of the sketches they cut, I 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.640 wish I hope they put them online. Somewhere because he 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:13.640 is he is hilarious. Maybe they should uh tap him 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:15.720 to host the Oscars. You know, maybe they should announce 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:17.640 a producer. Maybe they should figure out what's going to 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.959 happen with this show, Like, isn't that weird? Like it's 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:25.600 October or whatever it is now and no producer announced. 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.360 We'll have winners before we have a producer. Yeah, it's crazy. 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.520 I know that there was three years where you know, 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.559 Zaden and Maren were a three year contract, so a 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:35.319 lot of their decisions were able to happen early in 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.120 August or September or whatever. You'd hear what the host is. 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.839 And now they're kind of starting fresh. I've heard that, Uh, 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:45.160 you know, nobody wants that gig after last year, but 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.600 he wants to produce the Oscars after last year. Talk 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:49.640 to the academy you hear something completely different. No, we've 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.120 got a lot of people. We're just trying to decide 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.800 who it's going to be. Anything about the host. Cluck 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:55.840 is ticking. No, I mean you need a producer first, 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.360 because that's that's gonna be where that decision comes from. 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.880 I assume we'll know both before the Governor's Awards in 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.720 mid November. But that's like three weeks away. Yeah, not 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.880 very far, so hopefully soon. I didn't expect to go 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:08.719 down that road, but I am like, what's going on 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:10.839 over there? Hey, maybe it's time to go back to 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:15.280 Brett Ratner just saying maybe wanted Eddie Murphy to h 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.960 that was all about that. Yeah, let's do it. What 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.679 else were we going to cover here? Opening this week? Oh? 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.160 By the way, the one movie opening this week that 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.800 that we need to talk about is Boo a Media Halloween. 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:30.960 Wait what, I have never seen a Tyler Perry movie, 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:35.800 and I'm this weekend to see Boo a Media Halloween. 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:37.599 I don't think it will struggle for box office. I 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:41.160 think everyone should go see Moonlight, which doesn't open wide 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.240 until later anyway, but it's opening limited this week. Such 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.760 a beautiful movie. And we've talked about that. Yeah, I 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:48.559 think we've talked a lot about it. How much we 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:52.679 love that cast. Yeah, and I actually did attend a 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:56.160 Q and A this weekend with Herschela Ali and Naomi 0:13:56.200 --> 0:14:00.000 Harris and Andre Holland and you know, just audience. Actually, 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.880 I'm not sure to be honest, Um, well received, everyone 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.720 stuck around. Very well received. And just listening to those 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.400 three talks like a masterclass in acting. I look forward 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:11.320 to talking to Barry Jenkins at some point this year 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:16.040 because said him, yeah, and everyone said they were fans 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:19.800 of his first movie Moonlight for Melancholi Melancholic flight Medicine. 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.960 For me, I'm sorry, I just made the best mash 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:28.760 up Moonlight from Melancol Medicine Man Melancholic Melancholy from Moonlight. 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.120 But they were all big fans of his even before 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:32.720 they worked with him. In the way that they talk 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:36.000 about this director like they're so rhapsodic what he's able 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.440 to pull off with these three actors playing this one 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.000 character and you know, getting that performance out of Naomi 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.000 over the course of the weekend. You know, it's pretty 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:46.280 good stuff. So you should go see that film as 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:51.000 opposed to Boom Medea Halloween. You know, one of my 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.960 co workers did say he admires that Tyler Perry as 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.440 he continues to get, you know, more famous in his 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.760 movies are bigger and bigger, he still refuses to learn 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.560 that they sick tenants of filmmaking, and in a way 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:06.680 that that stubbornness is admirable. Well, he doesn't appear to 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:10.280 need to yet he clearly is doing something right. This 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:16.000 guy is a behemoth in the industry, so good for him. Yes, 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.160 and look he's a good actor. He was great and 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.600 gone girl. Yeah, I even saw the movie where he 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:24.120 played Alex Cross, and it's like, yeah, he's what was 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:25.880 the movie called? Was it called Alex? It was called 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:29.360 Alex Cross? Yes, well, go see both of those movies. 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.600 Screw it. You should should have or go see Moonlight twice. 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:33.840 That would be seen moon Like twice. I'm talking to 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:37.120 Andrew Garfield after this. Talked about hacks All Ridge a 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.840 few weeks ago. Loved it. More and more people are 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:41.520 seeing it and coming and telling me how much they 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.800 love it. It's a lovely conversation. I think everybody will 0:15:43.880 --> 0:16:06.480 enjoy that, so stick around for that. I was dreamed 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:09.800 about being a doctor, but I didn't get my school. 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:13.480 I can't stay here all them go fight for me. 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.040 When you figured this war is just going to fit 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.320 in with your ideas. While everybody else has taken life, 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.360 I'm gonna be saving it. That's gonna be my way 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:25.640 to serve. This is a personal gift from the United 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.720 States government because I do bring death to the end 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.800 of it. Well, I'm sorry. Sorry, I can't touch a gun. 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.720 Shen't killed. You know, quite a bit of killing does 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:39.480 occur in war. Private Dots does not believe in violence. 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:42.920 You'll not look to him to save you on the battlefield. 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:46.240 I don't think this is a question of religion. I 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:51.600 think this is callous because you weren't like anyone else. 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:55.120 You're saying you could go to prison. But I don't 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.080 know how I'm gonna live with myself if I don't 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:00.120 stay truny to what I believe. With the world so 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:05.080 set on tearing itself apart, don't seem like such a 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:06.800 bad thing to me to want to put a little 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.119 bit of it back together. Welcome back, everyone. I'm here 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:12.239 with Andrew Garfield, the star of Mel Gibson's hacks all 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.320 Ridge j opens November four. Thank you for coming by today, man, 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:19.000 I appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Uh. It's 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.960 been ten years since Mel Gibson gave us a movie. 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.280 Apocalypto was the last one, and I just want to 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:26.560 talk quickly about that. Are you as big a fan 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:29.080 of that movie is as I think I am. Yeah, 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.080 I am a huge fan of that movie. I think 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.880 that's maybe my favorite movie of his that he directed. 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.840 It's it's such a bold movie to make. And I 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:41.600 remember when the trailer hit for that movie. I don't 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.639 know if people remember this, but there was a moment 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.720 in the trailer, like a couple of frames where he 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:48.879 just inserted a shot where he was hanging out with 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:50.640 like the guys that were playing the natives, and he's 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:52.680 like just cheesing with I think he had like a 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.320 cigaretto in his mouth or something. Really, it's just yeah, 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:57.119 it's just a really brief moment where he's just like 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:01.120 smiling in the middle of this big press trail line. 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.480 I don't remember that after this, but I'm just curious 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:06.440 if that speaks to how he is on the set. Yes, 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:10.399 that that's so funny and and interesting. He kind of 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.760 makes his own rules in that way as a filmmaker, 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:18.399 I think, and he's not precious at all about the 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.879 process or even about the moment. There's this kind of 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:28.920 very intuitive instinctive, a physical, visceral presence that he has 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:30.920 and that his movies have. I think is you know, 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:34.040 with Apocalypto is a great example of that. It's so 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:38.159 muscular and full of you know, blood and flesh, and 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:40.520 you know, you feel like you're there. And I think 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.920 Haxtell raises no exception to that. Um and yeah, and 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:50.000 I think it does come out of his um, his 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:54.920 his his presence on set, his kind of almost animal 0:18:55.119 --> 0:19:01.199 instinctive way of making a film telling a story. Uh, 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:04.680 he is a figure. I think that looms pretty large 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:07.080 in this industry. So maybe you had expectations going in, 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:10.280 But even still, did he surprise you as a filmmaker 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:14.640 in any way that sticks out? Now? Yeah, I had 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.000 no idea what to expect, because of course you hear, 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.920 you hear so much, and you kind of go in 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:25.520 with any filmmaker really and of course you know Mail, 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.000 there's no exception to that. You go in with a 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:31.720 bunch of expectations and a bunch of ideas that that 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:33.720 you hope you can see past in order to just 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.720 be able to see the person clearly. And yeah, I was. 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:44.320 I was so so surprised he and by his um. Well, 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:46.480 to be honest, you know the main thing that I 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:53.520 was so um ah happy about and surprised maybe I 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:55.680 I don't know, I did. I didn't have any expectation 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:57.959 either way. It was just this ability that you had 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:02.680 to make everyone feel as important as each other in 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:06.080 a very sincere way, without any you know, there was 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:08.359 no strategy behind it. It was just we're all in 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.680 this together. And that feeling of a good dad on set, 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.800 that feeling of a good parent where you feel like 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:19.159 your work is um as important as his and in 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:23.440 fact he makes you feel totally vital to the process. 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.720 Um and he totally means it. It's the best idea 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:33.560 wins kind of scenario. And um, there's this very loving 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:37.040 energy that he creates on set, and very safe and 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:41.359 very playful and light and and as I say, kind 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.399 of loving in that in that really good way that 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:45.440 a good parent will set you up to have a 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:48.960 really fun play session with a friend. They'll create the 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:51.280