WEBVTT - Player’s Lounge: Improving Draft Stock 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:04.440 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:08.840 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:16.200 This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:21.360 World Headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:26.119 Heckma Harrison to Montrey Moore and Newi Scruggs. 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:32.920 Yo Yo Yo yo. Players line in the house. You 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:38.040 got my man, heck Ma Harrison in the house. Dallas 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:42.000 Cowboy gears looking good, looking good with the royal blue. 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:45.840 Put it on. We got tray my boy, Trey Moore, 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:46.960 go ahead, flash that. 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:50.800 Always coordinating. 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:54.640 You don't never forget it. Got the way it is? 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:56.920 Hey, baby, what you're showing? 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:57.760 Right? 0:00:58.480 --> 0:00:59.960 Showing get that? 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:04.680 Sorry, got buried Church Toledo rocket here. 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:05.680 I merely knew. 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:06.520 He scrugs. 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:11.680 Here to help facilitate the conversation. All right, guys, combined 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:16.520 time is here and I have I've never been I 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:22.520 love it. First off, its cold, trying to be cold. 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.760 And I've just never worked for a stage with the 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:27.560 resources where they say, hey, we want to go to that. 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:30.640 So this is just it's just not my thing. But 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:33.920 is the combine, in your opinion, useful. 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.040 If you're talking about for the guys, that are in 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:39.000 my opinion, at least if you're talking about the guys 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:42.959 that are first round, top ten type picks, you know 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.319 the only reason they would go up there is basically 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:47.600 to do interviews, in my opinion, talk to the coaches, 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:49.919 Let the coaches pick their brains. See type of personality 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.440 these guys can bring. Are they a franchise type guy? 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.080 But the drills for those type of guys. 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:55.360 I don't know. 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.520 It's I don't think they're going to hurt or gain 0:01:57.560 --> 0:01:59.920 any drafts. Talk about doing that now we're talking about 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.200 and my incense where I was an undrafted guy or 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.160 those you know, third day guys, four. 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:05.560 Or fifth round type of guys. 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:07.960 It's big for them in my opinion, because you can 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.799 go out there and even though a forty yard dash 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:12.920 is not what you see in the NFL each and 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:15.440 every down, like you got ten yard bursts here and there, 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.280 nobody's really just running though straight line forty when you're 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.400 playing in the National Football If you go out there 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.720 and impress the scouts with those crazy numbers, workout warrior 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.040 type numbers because everybody looks good and shorts, then you 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:28.680 can improve your draft talk. So for guys that were 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:31.760 like my incense, undrafted type guys, like I said before 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.120 fourth round through later, I think the combat can be 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.640 huge for them. But for guys that are bona fide 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.360 first picks, you're just going up there to interview and 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:40.720 basically chop it up with the coaches. 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:42.120 In my opinion, it definitely is. 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.680 I mean for me, I was one of those guys 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:48.840 that got invited to the combine and unfortunately, you know, 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.600 I went from being projected number one, number two overall 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:53.680 picked to going into the third round. 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.079 I say that to say that I got to. 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:59.600 See the hype of everything going into going into their 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:03.280 having interview and day in and day out to meet 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.160 with all thirty two teams that you have there, and 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:10.280 so it's for me it's not as pivotal as what 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:12.799 it wants used to be, where guys everybody competed and 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:14.839 stuff like that. We are in the new day and age, 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:16.840 or where you said, if you're a bona fide first 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.760 round pick, if anything, you're going out there hurting yourself 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.840 like if I knew what I knew now, Like my 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:22.600 I feel like my. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.680 Class was the class that set the stone. 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:27.840 Jarvis Jones was the first guy to say Hey, go 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:29.840 check the film like it's already the proof is in 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:32.480 the plitting. And you had guys like me there was like, Hey, 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:34.200 if I knew I wouldn't gonna test well like that, 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.560 I should have said, hey, rely on my film because 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.000 my numbers were the best one by far as the DN. 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.000 So for it to be that day and age, now, yeah, 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.160 why go out there and hurt your money, your stocks? 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.480 And like you said, when you go out there it's cold. 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.680 You're doing all this for guys that have played in 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.560 warm weather climbing their whole career and don't know the 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.480 nuances of warming up properly, being younger, stuff like that. 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.360 You risk tearing a hamstring doing all that stuff, so 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.680 it doesn't build money. But like you said, for the 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:01.760 guys that are the laiter round draft pick, this is 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:03.760 definitely going to build some money because you don't do 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:04.920 a forty yard pick. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.040 Can you build more on that? For the listening audience 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.920 about how you feel, like, hey, I was here, I 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:11.480 left there. 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.080 Yeah, So for me at the time, I was hurt. 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.160 I was a hurt puppy, But like now, going back, 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.039 I realized where I made my mistakes. Like, am I 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.559 mad about getting hurt there. And when I say getting 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:27.560 hurt is this is pretty much the first wake up 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:29.720 call for all these guys that are going out there 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:31.960 to understand that you have meetings, you have to be 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.360 on time, you have to be accountable. It's no longer 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.039 somebody knocking on there, that class checker saying, hey, check 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:37.960 in right now and do this. 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:39.840 You have to show up early. And then on top 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:40.520 of that, you have to. 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.719 Know your body and know that, hey, I have to 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.440 properly hydrate, and the fact that this is a cold 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:47.360 weather climate. I'm going to have to go out there 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.839 maybe thirty minutes early, just to warm up to like 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.680 for to be a powerful explosive guy, and just for 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:55.279 you to be quick twitching go like that pemum brittle. 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.839 Don't just stretch it. It cracks right there if you 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:00.839 do it with too much for some velocity. For guys 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.800 meet like me now, knowing what I know now, I 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.719 wasn't properly prepared. I didn't have those nuances. I didn't 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.360 have the mental maturity to learn those things. And so 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.120 going in that time, you don't think about it like that. 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.479 All you think about is like, how good did I 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.200 do on those interviews? And if you if you tank it, 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.840 if you hear that your draft stock is dropping, if 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.120 you don't have the mental fortitude or a great circle 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:23.919 around you, you can't bounce back from that. 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:25.280 And we see guys that slip all. 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.160 The way to the draft where you're like, hey, this 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:28.440 was supposed to be a second round pick. 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:29.280 Where do you go from there? 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:31.359 Let me add just one more or last thing on it. 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:36.520 Where does the agent play in this process? When you 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.400 talked about nobody knocked on the door, nobody told you 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.080 to get warm, where does the agency and the group 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.240 of people you're working with play, Especially since you talk 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.839 about here, I went in here looking like I'm going 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.080 to be a first or second round draft pick. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:49.680 That means the. 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.799 Agency's got to know there's some money tied to trap. 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.680 Yeah, agency comes into play. 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.279 It's just like anything like you're this is who's representing you. 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.320 This is going to be the first time that the 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.839 team gets a chance to actually get to know you, 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.599 and you whoever you're sending in there on your behalf 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:09.960 have to know you, know who you are as a 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:12.159 person in a personality to know how to sell you 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.680 better when they have those questions of like cause the 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.719 first thing they do is they have a long sheet 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:18.760 that they go in there and they say, okay, he 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:20.800 does this on the field. But then also, guess what 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:24.200 we got all investigators to go get these reports. Is 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.160 this guy this is he that, and it's going to 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:27.719 be your agent to fight for you. And if he 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:29.800 doesn't truly know for you, he can give you the 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.919 bubble out cookie cutter answers and say, oh he's this, 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.279 he's that, we got him volunteering. But if he truly 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.719 knows you, that's where he can sell you. That's where 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.640 those guys in the front office that respect your guys 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:42.880 to say, hey, take a chance on this guy. Like 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.920 if there's some character issues, your agent's gonna come in there. 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:50.320 Because listen, it's like a cake. The cake is already there, 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:52.560 you're putting the icing on it right now when you 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.920 go to the combine and doing these interviews. But then 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.560 your agent is just the sprinkles. He can enhance the cake, 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.520 or he can make the cake a lot worse than 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:03.040 what it is. So picking an agent is very important. 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.719 So he can express to you though, but also with 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:10.720 knowing you, he can put the parameters in line to say, hey, man, 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.240 make sure you have all these alarm sets so you're 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:14.240 not late for these meetings. 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:15.840 Hey, man, I talked to this team. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.080 They're worried about you, and they heard that you have 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:19.800 an attitude, but they love your attitude. 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.120 Can you show up here? So guess what? 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.720 Make sure you show up earlier here so that way 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.240 you can show them like, hey, I've heard what's going 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.360 on and this is how I'm fixing it. So if 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.400 your agent has those inner in the workings in the 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:34.560 system and knows what's going in, he can kind of 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:36.880 help coach you up before then to fix your flaws. 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:38.120 So it's a big part. 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.160 In it, and the agents kind of getting a little 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.160 bit of phased out when you talk about some of 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.960 those guys that are top five type of picks, because 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:49.400 not everything's slotted. When you get drafted that X pick, 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:51.880 you're getting X amount of money, Like there's no negotiation 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:53.840 up and down. You getting X amount of money. So 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.680 if you're one of them top guys coming out, would 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.640 you I don't even know if I would have an 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:00.600 agent in that situation, because I'm like, I don't want 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.520 to give this guy another two percent when I'm already 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:03.640 getting the money no matter what. 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:04.720 I wouldn't. I wouldn't. 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.200 I wouldn't look me personally, knowing what I know now, 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:08.760 I'm the business and stuff like that. If I have 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.440 somebody that's business savvy, go get me a lawyer, and 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.920 I'm locked in five. Of course, yes, I can do that, 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.840 and potentially I could start somebody else's career. We see 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:19.920 Jalen Hurts, we see all these other guys that have 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.880 done it. But for those guys that are third round 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.200 and below, you need an agent. You need that guy. 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:28.480 Like for me, I had the same agent, which is 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.880 very rare my whole twelve year career of playing professional football, 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:35.360 Jobe Brain Like I knew that Jobey knew the workings 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.840 on the inner workings of the system and talking to people, 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.000 and he was able to say, hey, Demontre coming out. 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.960 You have maturity issues. You have character issues as far 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:44.840 as showing up on time and this and that. And 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.839 then on top of that, my agent was strong enough, 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:49.839 but I was so bullharunted. He told me not to 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.160 run the forty like, he said, hey, don't do that, 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.280 But I'm like, no, this is how I can show 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:56.200 like I might not kill it in the interview, but 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:57.720 I'm a competitor, and I want to go out here 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:59.920 and do this and do that. I went out there 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:03.640 and the cold thing. Guess what, history rights itself. I 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:05.480 tore a hamstring and all that, and he was like, 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:07.360 I told you not to do it. But if I 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:08.760 had listened to him, I could have did that. So 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:12.000 that's what I'm saying. Your agent can potentially make or 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.720 break you. So for those later guys, get your agent. 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.640 If you're not a first round locked inn, pick parents, 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:19.760 whoever's out here right now. If you're looking at me 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.000 at the camera, don't get an agent. Do not think 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.280 that you can do what Jalen Hurts mom did or 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:29.480 Josh Daniel the kid the Commanders his mom. He cannot 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.920 do that because it's cutthroat back there like those people 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:36.640 are in the front. Lamar Jackson, Jackson, I'm sorry, you can't. 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:38.720 Everybody can't be those guys. Like you said, if you're 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.439 a top round, top five or first round locked in, 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:43.520 you're good. Yeah you don't need that, but everybody else 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:44.000 you need it. 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:44.640 No. 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:46.880 I just feel like, you know, basically, you gave a 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.760 lot of great nuggets on what that process is like 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.880 in a ton of intel. But I agree wholeheartedly with 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.600 what you're saying, Barry, because I think that those guys 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.000 that are in that first couple of slots, I think 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:01.120 that the interview process is so important for them. And 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:04.000 back to what you were saying, Demntree, but with having 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.560 an agent or somebody that can absolutely take you through 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:10.360 that process. I just go back to Dez Bryant and 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:11.920 with some of the stuff that he went through with 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:16.920 Miami and his interview and uncalled for questions. But I 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.120 think it's something to draw you off sides. How do 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:20.760 you deal with that? And you're gonna deal with it 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:24.080 in with the press anyway, right, But you know, with 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:26.960 all the years and for me man as being a 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:30.680 fan of the game and watching the combine I've gone 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.040 through and seen the Tony Mandridge, is that the guys 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.439 that get drafted based off of how they they bitch, 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:36.320 press and. 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.640 You know, and all those things, and then you see a. 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:42.200 Guy come out and broad jump or run a great 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:45.320 forty and his stock goes up, and then he comes 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.600 into the league and he performs well, I mean the 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:52.200 Cowboys got a guy like that, Baron Jones, right, Baron Jones, 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:55.120 And I mean he may have been overlooked in that 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:58.439 situation because of what the small school guy. But then 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.640 you see the explosiveness, you see the build, and you say, oh, 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:03.600 this is a guy that can fit into our culture. 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.960 And so I look at the scouts for the Dallas Cowboys, 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:07.760 the head coaches for the Dolls, the head coach for 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.560 the Dallas Cowboys, and just looking at those guys that 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:14.040 are going to fit Coach Schottenheimer's system, his culture, what 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:16.840 he's building. Get an opportunity to get these guys behind 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:20.360 closed doors and ask those very important questions about your upbringing, 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:24.000 who you are now. For me, Demntrey, when I think 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.800 about a grown man and this plays football, that this 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.520 is your dream. I should not have to have nobody 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.720 knock on your door to get your behind up for 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.480 the money, you know what I'm saying, for everything, for. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.040 Everything that is there, And I get it. 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.320 I think when you come from a situation, especially from 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:42.000 high school to college, where people are already catering to you, 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.280 then that's another thing. But I'm just talking about the 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.800 responsibility of being a professional athlete because it goes from 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.200 the collegiate level to the pro level and now you 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:54.200 have to raise you have to and I'm living in 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.000 reality and I'm living and I'm living in the reality 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:58.760 of the situation. And I think those are some of 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.800 the things that when guys do come pros that you say, 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.880 Oh my god, I mean, you're making twenty million dollars 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:06.560 a year. You mean you can't show up the meetings 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:10.199 on top I mean, And that's a normal seed in 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.040 the media when you're dealing with NFL athletes. 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:14.079 And all I'm gonna say. 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:17.520 Is I agree with you wholeheartedly on all those sentiments 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.839 when you become mature enough to understand that. But you 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:24.080 got to remember this is you're playing a child's game 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.320 for a kings ransom. A lot of these guys and 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.080 kids for me, right, let's just take me an example. 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:30.000 I'm gonna use me. 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:33.040 But I was seventeen years old going into college, going 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:37.440 from there, having that stability, having a TA coaches checker 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:40.360 and stuff like that. Like I was oriented and focused 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.640 and driven on that. But I didn't realize, like scholarships 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:45.480 is every year, like this is doing that. Plus I'm 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.560 the top guy, like you take it for granted because 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.959 they cater to you when it comes to college. Some 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.280 of these guys, this is the first real awakening. The 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.520 guys that are mature enough are the guys that I 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.200 think that are able to come in and hit the 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:59.360 ground rolling unless you just have everything cater to you. 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.400 Like I'm not going to even say certain players, but 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.280 you know how you get drafted and they say, hey, 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:05.800 we got to do all these things that line it 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:06.319 up for you. 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:07.560 The other guys, it's. 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.439 Like when you're going in there doing that, Like I said, 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.040 they're used to that, and they don't realize that until 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:14.680 they have that meeting, and then all of a sudden, 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:16.360 you go from a first round pick of having a 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:19.680 twenty one million dollar signing bonus to going to a 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:21.800 third round pick and only having eight hundred K. And 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.400 it's like, that's a big difference. It's a big difference. 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:25.640 That's before tax. 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:29.360 So heck, what you're talking about, I like to break 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:33.360 it down, it's idealism and realism. Realism is, hey man, 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.200 this is you know ideally, hey, you would be on 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:37.800 time for me to know this is because this is 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:38.720 the way it works the real world. 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:40.760 But the realism and what Trey is talking about is, 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:41.440 hey man. 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.120 Your habits and rituals that have started since you were 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.560 in college and people were here doing this. You spend 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:48.640 three four years like that and now you just hey, man, 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:53.000 you go handle it. Yes, it's easy to miss it 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.320 as a young person, and I know what times I 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.080 have to make sure when I'm sitting here doing these 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:02.600 shows and talking and you're now a person who's been 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.920 down the road, he seeing stuff. You know now I'm 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.120 old that. I tell you, man, I saw Kobe come 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.040 in as a rookie and play twenty year. 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:11.800 I mean that thing I have to reap, man, This. 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:13.760 Is this these a kid. 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:15.960 No iron I know, I forget it all the time. 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.880 It's layered and what we're talking about is very nuanced, 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:22.800 and I'm I'm basically talking from a standpoint of you've 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.280 seen the Mannings and you've seen people come into the 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:28.240 league that handle their business. All I'm saying is, and 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.160 I don't want to get into too deep a conversation 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.800 about those things. I'm just saying that the combine, to me, 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.960 is the opportunity for guys to compete, show who they are, 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.960 go in there and shine in the interview process. I'm 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.000 with you, I'm a top ten pick. I don't have 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.880 to go out there, but in the forty Okay, because 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.240 the tape is already gonna speak for me. But there 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:51.600 are guys out there that can can definitely benefit by 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:55.680 having showing strong character, showing you know, being very good, 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.600 and they don't have to be articulate, you know what 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.600 I'm saying. But come on now, don't call the interview 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:04.160 cuz they go out there and go out there and 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.360 handle your business. Do exactly what you need to do 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.480 so you can improve your draft stock. Because what de 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.160 Montree is talking about, if you're going from a ten 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:14.680 to fifteen million dollars signing bonus to then a eight 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.520 hundred thousand dollars signing bonus, I think it'd be who's 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:22.080 your agent to make sure you get your behind up, get. 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:26.080 Down there and be ready to gun getting that money too. Fact. 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.440 And you're saying this in the context of football, but man, 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.720 I'll tell you just in my industry, when I deal 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.360 with these kids, Man, some simple things you would you 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:35.880 would think would happen don't happen. 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.480 And so we look at ball players and we want 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:39.000 to put them here. 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.120 But dammit, you start looking at these kids right now 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:44.600 across any professional But what you're doing, how you showing 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.400 up like this? I mean I had, I want to 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.400 I'm gonna I had two damn. 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:51.200 It, get it. 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:52.000 Two people. 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:56.640 Okay, their job as interns was to log the baseball game. 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:02.240 So it's the Pirates and the Rangers Pittsburg. Our show 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.120 goes on at six o'clock. The game started at six 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.280 o five. I said, well, one of you can go 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:10.600 ahead and take lunch of somebody else watched the game. 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.080 These two ladies told me now we want to go together, 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.680 and we try to leave now, So who's gonna log 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:17.040 the game? 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:19.160 Just go on? 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.320 I just logged it that this is you telling me, 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:23.840 this is your dreams that you want to do. 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.880 We're trying, and it's just logged in the baseball bro 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:29.440 They don't did it one time they logged the game 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:31.080 and logged it from a Pirates perspective. 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.600 And I don't care about the pie. We here were talking. 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.000 But someone just going back to what you're saying. 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.040 Man, it's not just jeez ball, it's it's it's kids 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.400 in general who don't really see the opportunity the way 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.160 you and I. You and I were very different. People 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.800 saw this like, man, this ship a lot of folks. 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:52.240 And when you talented like that, and and and you 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.080 know this trade, but you played with some guy. 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:54.200 Man. 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.600 Nothing you could have told them, told you couldn't break it. 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.160 Not there's nothing that you can correct them on because 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.040 it's like you're going from college and like you said, 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.680 you said three or four years. Most especially in this generation, 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:06.120 like the social media. 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:06.960 A lot of these. 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:09.760 Guys have been superstars since Little League and stuff like 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.080 that and been handed it, and so they're in the 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.520 era of, Hey, if you do good enough here, it 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.800 don't matter what you do over here. Show up, lay here, 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.400 do that like you can do all that. Somebody got 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.520 all out and this is gonna be the first real 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:24.600