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Speaker 2: This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 2: World Headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church,

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Speaker 2: Heckma Harrison to Montrey Moore and Newi Scruggs.

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Speaker 3: Yo Yo Yo yo. Players line in the house. You

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Speaker 3: got my man, heck Ma Harrison in the house. Dallas

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Speaker 3: Cowboy gears looking good, looking good with the royal blue.

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Speaker 4: Put it on. We got tray my boy, Trey Moore,

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Speaker 4: go ahead, flash that.

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Speaker 5: Always coordinating.

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Speaker 6: You don't never forget it. Got the way it is?

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Speaker 5: Hey, baby, what you're showing?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 5: Showing get that?

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Speaker 4: Sorry, got buried Church Toledo rocket here.

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Speaker 5: I merely knew.

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Speaker 4: He scrugs.

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Speaker 8: Here to help facilitate the conversation. All right, guys, combined

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Speaker 8: time is here and I have I've never been I

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Speaker 8: love it. First off, its cold, trying to be cold.

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Speaker 8: And I've just never worked for a stage with the

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Speaker 8: resources where they say, hey, we want to go to that.

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Speaker 8: So this is just it's just not my thing. But

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Speaker 8: is the combine, in your opinion, useful.

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Speaker 9: If you're talking about for the guys, that are in

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Speaker 9: my opinion, at least if you're talking about the guys

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Speaker 9: that are first round, top ten type picks, you know

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Speaker 9: the only reason they would go up there is basically

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Speaker 9: to do interviews, in my opinion, talk to the coaches,

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Speaker 9: Let the coaches pick their brains. See type of personality

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Speaker 9: these guys can bring. Are they a franchise type guy?

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Speaker 4: But the drills for those type of guys.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 9: It's I don't think they're going to hurt or gain

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Speaker 9: any drafts. Talk about doing that now we're talking about

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Speaker 9: and my incense where I was an undrafted guy or

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Speaker 9: those you know, third day guys, four.

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Speaker 5: Or fifth round type of guys.

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Speaker 9: It's big for them in my opinion, because you can

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Speaker 9: go out there and even though a forty yard dash

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Speaker 9: is not what you see in the NFL each and

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Speaker 9: every down, like you got ten yard bursts here and there,

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Speaker 9: nobody's really just running though straight line forty when you're

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Speaker 9: playing in the National Football If you go out there

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Speaker 9: and impress the scouts with those crazy numbers, workout warrior

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Speaker 9: type numbers because everybody looks good and shorts, then you

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Speaker 9: can improve your draft talk. So for guys that were

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Speaker 9: like my incense, undrafted type guys, like I said before

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Speaker 9: fourth round through later, I think the combat can be

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Speaker 9: huge for them. But for guys that are bona fide

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Speaker 9: first picks, you're just going up there to interview and

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Speaker 9: basically chop it up with the coaches.

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Speaker 6: In my opinion, it definitely is.

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Speaker 10: I mean for me, I was one of those guys

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Speaker 10: that got invited to the combine and unfortunately, you know,

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Speaker 10: I went from being projected number one, number two overall

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Speaker 10: picked to going into the third round.

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Speaker 6: I say that to say that I got to.

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Speaker 10: See the hype of everything going into going into their

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Speaker 10: having interview and day in and day out to meet

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Speaker 10: with all thirty two teams that you have there, and

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Speaker 10: so it's for me it's not as pivotal as what

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Speaker 10: it wants used to be, where guys everybody competed and

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Speaker 10: stuff like that. We are in the new day and age,

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Speaker 10: or where you said, if you're a bona fide first

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Speaker 10: round pick, if anything, you're going out there hurting yourself

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Speaker 10: like if I knew what I knew now, Like my

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Speaker 10: I feel like my.

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Speaker 6: Class was the class that set the stone.

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Speaker 10: Jarvis Jones was the first guy to say Hey, go

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Speaker 10: check the film like it's already the proof is in

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Speaker 10: the plitting. And you had guys like me there was like, Hey,

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Speaker 10: if I knew I wouldn't gonna test well like that,

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Speaker 10: I should have said, hey, rely on my film because

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Speaker 10: my numbers were the best one by far as the DN.

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Speaker 10: So for it to be that day and age, now, yeah,

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Speaker 10: why go out there and hurt your money, your stocks?

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Speaker 10: And like you said, when you go out there it's cold.

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Speaker 10: You're doing all this for guys that have played in

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Speaker 10: nuances of warming up properly, being younger, stuff like that.

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Speaker 10: You risk tearing a hamstring doing all that stuff, so

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Speaker 10: it doesn't build money. But like you said, for the

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Speaker 10: guys that are the laiter round draft pick, this is

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Speaker 10: definitely going to build some money because you don't do

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Speaker 4: Can you build more on that? For the listening audience

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So for me at the time, I was hurt.

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Speaker 10: I was a hurt puppy, But like now, going back,

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Speaker 10: I realized where I made my mistakes. Like, am I

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Speaker 10: mad about getting hurt there. And when I say getting

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Speaker 10: hurt is this is pretty much the first wake up

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Speaker 10: call for all these guys that are going out there

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Speaker 10: to understand that you have meetings, you have to be

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Speaker 10: on time, you have to be accountable. It's no longer

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Speaker 10: somebody knocking on there, that class checker saying, hey, check

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Speaker 6: You have to show up early. And then on top

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Speaker 6: of that, you have to.

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Speaker 10: Know your body and know that, hey, I have to

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Speaker 10: properly hydrate, and the fact that this is a cold

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Speaker 10: weather climate. I'm going to have to go out there

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Speaker 10: maybe thirty minutes early, just to warm up to like

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Speaker 10: for to be a powerful explosive guy, and just for

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Speaker 10: you to be quick twitching go like that pemum brittle.

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Speaker 10: Don't just stretch it. It cracks right there if you

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Speaker 10: do it with too much for some velocity. For guys

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Speaker 10: meet like me now, knowing what I know now, I

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Speaker 10: wasn't properly prepared. I didn't have those nuances. I didn't

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Speaker 10: have the mental maturity to learn those things. And so

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Speaker 10: going in that time, you don't think about it like that.

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Speaker 10: All you think about is like, how good did I

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Speaker 10: do on those interviews? And if you if you tank it,

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Speaker 10: if you hear that your draft stock is dropping, if

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Speaker 10: you don't have the mental fortitude or a great circle

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Speaker 6: And we see guys that slip all.

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Speaker 10: The way to the draft where you're like, hey, this

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Speaker 6: Where do you go from there?

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Speaker 8: Let me add just one more or last thing on it.

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Speaker 8: Where does the agent play in this process? When you

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Speaker 8: talked about nobody knocked on the door, nobody told you

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Speaker 8: to get warm, where does the agency and the group

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Speaker 8: of people you're working with play, Especially since you talk

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Speaker 8: about here, I went in here looking like I'm going

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Speaker 8: to be a first or second round draft pick.

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Speaker 5: That means the.

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Speaker 8: Agency's got to know there's some money tied to trap.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, agency comes into play.

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Speaker 10: It's just like anything like you're this is who's representing you.

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Speaker 10: This is going to be the first time that the

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Speaker 10: and you whoever you're sending in there on your behalf

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Speaker 10: have to know you, know who you are as a

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Speaker 10: person in a personality to know how to sell you

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Speaker 10: better when they have those questions of like cause the

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Speaker 10: first thing they do is they have a long sheet

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Speaker 10: that they go in there and they say, okay, he

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Speaker 10: does this on the field. But then also, guess what

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Speaker 10: we got all investigators to go get these reports. Is

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Speaker 10: this guy this is he that, and it's going to

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Speaker 10: be your agent to fight for you. And if he

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Speaker 10: doesn't truly know for you, he can give you the

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Speaker 10: those guys in the front office that respect your guys

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Speaker 10: if there's some character issues, your agent's gonna come in there.

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Speaker 10: Because listen, it's like a cake. The cake is already there,

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Speaker 10: you're putting the icing on it right now when you

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Speaker 10: go to the combine and doing these interviews. But then

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Speaker 10: what it is. So picking an agent is very important.

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Speaker 10: So he can express to you though, but also with

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Speaker 6: Hey, man, I talked to this team.

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Speaker 10: They're worried about you, and they heard that you have

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Speaker 6: Can you show up here? So guess what?

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Speaker 10: Make sure you show up earlier here so that way

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Speaker 6: So it's a big part.

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Speaker 9: In it, and the agents kind of getting a little

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Speaker 9: you I don't even know if I would have an

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

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Speaker 10: I wouldn't look me personally, knowing what I know now,

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Speaker 10: I'm the business and stuff like that. If I have

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Speaker 10: somebody that's business savvy, go get me a lawyer, and

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Speaker 10: I'm locked in five. Of course, yes, I can do that,

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Speaker 10: and potentially I could start somebody else's career. We see

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Speaker 10: Like for me, I had the same agent, which is

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Speaker 10: very rare my whole twelve year career of playing professional football,

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Speaker 10: Jobe Brain Like I knew that Jobey knew the workings

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Speaker 10: You have maturity issues. You have character issues as far

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Speaker 10: then on top of that, my agent was strong enough,

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Speaker 10: but I was so bullharunted. He told me not to

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Speaker 10: But I'm like, no, this is how I can show

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Speaker 10: I'm a competitor, and I want to go out here

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Speaker 10: that's what I'm saying. Your agent can potentially make or

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Speaker 10: If you're not a first round locked inn, pick parents,

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Speaker 10: whoever's out here right now. If you're looking at me

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna use me.

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Speaker 10: But I was seventeen years old going into college, going

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Speaker 10: Like when you're going in there doing that, Like I said,

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Speaker 8: So heck, what you're talking about, I like to break

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Speaker 4: But the realism and what Trey is talking about is,

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Speaker 8: Your habits and rituals that have started since you were

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Speaker 4: I mean that thing I have to reap, man, This.

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Speaker 5: Down there and be ready to gun getting that money too. Fact.

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Speaker 4: And so we look at ball players and we want

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Speaker 8: Okay, their job as interns was to log the baseball game.

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Speaker 8: So it's the Pirates and the Rangers Pittsburg. Our show

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Speaker 5: Just go on?

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Speaker 4: I just logged it that this is you telling me,

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Speaker 8: We're trying, and it's just logged in the baseball bro

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Speaker 5: And I don't care about the pie. We here were talking.

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Speaker 8: There's also a reports that the Cowboys are meeting with quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: So h Trey Lanceton.

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Speaker 10: Quarter Horses, Horses in the state, Horses in the state.

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Speaker 4: They have two quarterbacks who are free agents.

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Speaker 8: They do that, gotta have them so they can run

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Speaker 8: a quarterback on a day you know, day three.

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Speaker 5: I can see it.

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Speaker 6: I see it, I see it. What you needed.

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Speaker 10: You have two of them that are free agents that

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Speaker 10: have proven that they are not the guys. One guy

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Speaker 10: has proved that he's just a guy for a week

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Speaker 10: or two. Like, come on, now, most good teams have

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Speaker 10: two quarterbacks that can be a starter anywhere, and then

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Speaker 10: they have that guy.

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Speaker 6: No disrespect to Cooper, He's just the guy. No disrespect.

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Speaker 10: He's had multiple chances to prove like, okay, what has

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Speaker 10: he done over his time has he not had multiple

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Speaker 10: chances to start, not just start one or two weeks,

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Speaker 10: but start at least four to five weeks, And has

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Speaker 10: he produced? Because those guys that have had those four

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Speaker 10: to five weeks, Let's go with a guy like rock Party,

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Speaker 10: he went and got the starting job. Let's go think

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Speaker 10: even back to the guys before them, Nick Cullins and

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Speaker 10: all those that were back ups, when they had that

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Speaker 10: time frame, they where it was like, we need to

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Speaker 10: go to that guy.

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Speaker 6: Get that.

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Speaker 10: Jimmy Garoppolo when he was at the Patriots a few

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Speaker 10: times that he got in there, you were like, he

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Speaker 10: did enough to go do that. Has Cooper Rush did

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Speaker 10: that where he said he has record, right, he has

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Speaker 10: a winning record, but he showed you there's a difference

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Speaker 10: between a winning record and a.

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Speaker 11: But he's that you call you call him just a guy.

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Speaker 11: But in his spotlight time and the thirty one other

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Speaker 11: teams that if they lose their starter and their backup

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Speaker 11: has to play any significant time, they're gonna finish with

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Speaker 11: a losing record.

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Speaker 5: That's the reason why you're the backup.

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Speaker 10: This is this is true, and so that's why I said,

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Speaker 10: let me backtrack with him just being just a guy.

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Speaker 10: He's proven here that he's just the guy. He hasn't

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Speaker 10: proven that he can take the realms and go do that.

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Speaker 10: And it's like, okay, what are we doing this. We're

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Speaker 10: prolonging your career and we could potentially go get younger

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Speaker 10: talent and somebody may be better.

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Speaker 5: Like come on now, well there's other aspects as well.

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Speaker 6: Number money too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not paying it. That's the thing. I'm not

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Speaker 5: paying crazy money.

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Speaker 8: Get someone out there could say, based on the track

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Speaker 8: record of what you've done, Cooper Rush.

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Speaker 4: We'll pay you.

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Speaker 8: I mean, lord knows he was better than anything. The

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Speaker 8: Raiders tried it out and this is true. And so

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Speaker 8: if you're the Cowboys, if you don't have a plan,

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Speaker 8: and somebody else may say, hey, man, this guy can

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Speaker 8: help us. It could be Kellen Moore who decides, you

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Speaker 8: know what, I'll bring him to New Orleans because if

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Speaker 8: I got to deal with but there, so, I mean

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Speaker 8: that could so. So you have to start to say

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Speaker 8: to yourself, what what are the what ifs? And oh,

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Speaker 8: by the way, what do I want to pay him?

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Speaker 8: But most off, and this is just a hardcore truth guy.

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Speaker 8: You look at Dak Prescott's playing availability the past, you

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Speaker 8: have better look at the position, and they may do

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Speaker 8: it if you not draft anyone you could. You got

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Speaker 8: Cooper Rush as a free agent. You got Tony Romo

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Speaker 8: was a free agent. So Tony Romo.

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Speaker 11: Oh, my man, my man. No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 11: I was I was calling Trey Lance Tony. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 11: I was, all right, I misunderstood. I jumped the gun back.

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Speaker 6: Hold on.

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Speaker 10: I can I put some pressure on him if we

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Speaker 10: had to say, because obviously you can't draft too many,

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Speaker 10: you always need three quarterbacks. If you had to pick

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Speaker 10: Cooper Rush or tray Lan Cooper Rush, Cooper Rush. Okay,

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Speaker 10: what's the XACTID? That's what I said. I didn't want

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Speaker 10: to disrespect Cooper. Like when I say just the guy,

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Speaker 10: it's like, hey, I think he's played enough to go

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Speaker 10: get paid somewhere else.

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Speaker 6: But I don't think he's paid. He I don't think

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Speaker 6: he's done well enough to get paid here to sit

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Speaker 6: for the money he's gonna do.

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Speaker 10: I'd rather get somebody go through that young guy Lance.

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Speaker 10: I'm kind of like, what is his legacy here in Dallas?

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Speaker 10: What a practice he was a practice squad guy? Okay,

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Speaker 10: I just I just want you traded for for him.

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Speaker 10: I just want to know from what it was.

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Speaker 5: It was a shot.

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Speaker 10: I mean, take a shot. Don't stick what they say.

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Speaker 10: We're just throwing darts at the wall. We're just trying

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Speaker 10: to get ideas. That wasn't a good right, You took.

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Speaker 8: A shot and it didn't pan out to anything. You

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Speaker 8: ultimately did sign your quarterback that you you said you wanted.

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Speaker 10: So I think he I think he did what he

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Speaker 10: was supposed to though, like he put a fire up

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Speaker 10: under the deck to be like, hold on, we're going

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Speaker 10: to go trade away to get a former first round pick.

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Speaker 14: Hey man, man, it was a fire or a big lighter.

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Speaker 14: He got what.

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Speaker 5: You had said.

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Speaker 11: You had that saying he was a good quarterback. What

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Speaker 11: quarterback you ever seen in a quarterback competition? Give a compliments?

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Speaker 11: Never da saw that. It was like y'all run me

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Speaker 11: my car right now, trying.

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Speaker 4: To help you out right.

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Speaker 9: I ain't worried about really, ain't worried about the preseason game.

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Speaker 5: Where he had all the all the reps. That's what.

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Speaker 9: That's what, because it was I hope he comes go

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Speaker 9: somewhere and ball and look back and be like, yeah,

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Speaker 9: I don't know if he's got hoping big fellow.

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Speaker 6: It's down. I love, I love, I love the other.

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Speaker 8: Back on, I wouldn't be surprised if trade goes and

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Speaker 8: wins the championship.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, back and roll right for the renegade.

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Speaker 10: Hold on your first round pick. History shows you being

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Speaker 10: the first round pick. You've got one more stop before

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Speaker 10: you get to the other little leagues and other stuff.

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Speaker 5: Play the game.

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Speaker 6: That's what I said.

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Speaker 5: You a turning player.

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Speaker 6: You got.

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Speaker 8: C f L, you would always the renegade, former HFL

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Speaker 8: team that merged with the UFL.

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Speaker 4: But when you start to think about.

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Speaker 8: And this is just my opinion, where this league needs

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Speaker 8: to get back to, you got.

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Speaker 4: Dudes need to play. Fact, Drey Lance just his resume.

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Speaker 8: What they they drafted a guy who didn't play a

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Speaker 8: whole lot, and you kept hearing McCarthy talk about it.

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Speaker 4: This guy needs to play.

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Speaker 8: When you saw Brad Johnson who won a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 8: you saw Jake DeLoone who took Caroline to a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 8: You saw Jason Garrett who have a serviceable career, Kurt Warner,

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Speaker 8: these guys all played in that World league. They played.

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Speaker 8: These dudes need to play the only way to get

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Speaker 8: reps is to play because the Cowboys what the most

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Speaker 8: again preseason?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and then you said and then you said pretty much,

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Speaker 10: and then you sit on ice Like that's why when

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Speaker 10: we were If you go back to the show and

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Speaker 10: I was speaking for him, it's like you're doing him

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Speaker 10: a disservice, Like you're saying, hey, we threw him out

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Speaker 10: here just to see what he got, but he ain't

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Speaker 10: played all season. He's not even motivated. You haven't even

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Speaker 10: had an inkling of doing that. And like for guys

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Speaker 10: like my self that has I've been the journey man.

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Speaker 10: I played in the AF before it crashed. I played

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Speaker 10: in the CFL like Newly is right, Like there are

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Speaker 10: so many guys up there that can play, but just

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Speaker 10: need the rep and need the coaching. And if you're

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Speaker 10: not the starter, you're not getting coached into this league.

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Speaker 10: In the NFL, you're coming in like it's now now

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Speaker 10: football league.

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Speaker 6: You need to be able to play.

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Speaker 10: And for some of those guys that you're drafting off

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Speaker 10: those potential, yes, playing in these summer leagues and doing

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Speaker 10: all these other things, go where your opportunity is, but

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Speaker 10: don't put yourself out there to have bad field. So

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Speaker 10: I agree wholeheartedly when you say that two.

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Speaker 8: Of their best players, Brandon Aubrey, can I take went

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Speaker 8: to the went to the US.

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Speaker 6: You're in the usflur.

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Speaker 8: MVP Aubrey Key kicked and then to be able to

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Speaker 8: go from the Spring league now took a couple of

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Speaker 8: weeks off summer hits. You're ready to go, and I

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Speaker 8: just think the coaches don't have time to Man, I

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Speaker 8: don't know, I know you to be here.

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Speaker 10: But I can think of one guy that is not

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Speaker 10: to the harbor on Trierry Lance and we can go

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Speaker 10: to another topic, but one guy that he still can

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Speaker 10: turn his career into being because not saying that he

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Speaker 10: can't come back and revive it, but Josh Johnson. Think

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Speaker 10: about him, how many times have he got cut and

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Speaker 10: that he went and played in these other leagues, got

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Speaker 10: the rest, took them the championship and had the opportunity

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Speaker 10: to where he's still hanging around right now. He potentially

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Speaker 10: still might get a job this year because he wasn't

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Speaker 10: sitting back and just saying, Hey, I'm gonna sit here

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Speaker 10: and let everybody put me in this box. I love

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Speaker 10: to play football. It's a pedigree you're related to Marshawn Lynch.

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Speaker 10: I'm here, like, let me go ball out on these

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Speaker 10: other leagues. Show that I am serviable, serviceable to you.

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Speaker 10: At least come in and be a backup. And when

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Speaker 10: y'all do play me, y'all like me enough to bring

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Speaker 10: me back. The Ravens are talking about bringing them half.

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Speaker 10: All that half do not have. Okay, either you have

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Speaker 10: it or you do not have it.

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Speaker 11: Okay, You've been given opportunities to excel in this league.

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Speaker 11: You've been given quality snaps. They've taken the time to

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Speaker 11: make sure that he understood the scheme here and downa say,

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Speaker 11: gave him the preseason games and you understood after that

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Speaker 11: that he did not have it. Whether you send him

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Speaker 11: to another league if he could correct those the touch

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Speaker 11: on his ball, timing, all of those things.

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Speaker 5: God bless him.

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Speaker 11: I'm just saying, as as his time here, it was

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Speaker 11: never going to work.

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Speaker 5: All right, it wasn't. It's come on, guys.

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Speaker 8: Mc McCarthy said it time and time again. He just

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Speaker 6: But that's where a player, That's where the player got

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Speaker 10: to the you gottegae, I get Bob Stup. I don't

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Speaker 10: think he needs to go to the Renegade, but I

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Speaker 4: Good good, good team, good team. My cousin Church played

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Speaker 8: Arlington Renegade is part of the uf L which plays

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Speaker 8: That's part of the group that the Rock and his

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Speaker 8: his former wife Danny Garcia. So but we have seen

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Speaker 8: guys from that league, Brandon Aubrey, Cavante, Turpin come from there.

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Speaker 4: Way Phillips is coaching out there.

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Speaker 6: He's over there.

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Speaker 10: The San Antonio team, they were they almost won the championship.

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Speaker 5: Ain't no way trade going over there, man? Why not?

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Speaker 5: You don't think you can go over there and made

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Speaker 5: too much?

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Speaker 10: Bread man, that's his pride, that's what made But that's

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Speaker 10: what I'm if you could take your bench five, you

786
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Speaker 10: got to pay for it. You got this over there

787
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Speaker 10: playing right now and loves it. Like, that's the probably thing.

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Speaker 10: If you take that away and you love football. If

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Speaker 10: Trey Lance loves football, he will be over there and

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Speaker 10: he will be playing. If you don't love football, then

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Speaker 10: obviously you were in it for the money.

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Speaker 6: Circles up.

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Speaker 8: Speaking to what you're saying, this is just my guess.

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Speaker 8: If this free agency comes around here and he's sitting

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Speaker 8: out here without a.

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Speaker 5: Deal, so what do you do? I just don't you

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Speaker 5: think he gonna go down?

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Speaker 6: Do it?

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Speaker 5: If you want to play football for the sixteenth while

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Speaker 5: he made in the league.

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Speaker 10: That's the thing about it though, And that's the difference

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Speaker 10: that Trey has over other guys. That's what made it

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Speaker 10: easier for me to make that transition when I went

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Speaker 10: over there, Like, did I feel like, oh I should

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Speaker 10: be playing in the league and stuff?

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Speaker 6: Yes, I did.

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Speaker 10: So guess what every time I went out there, I

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Speaker 10: punished them and showed them like I am a man

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Speaker 10: amongst boys. But what also helped me is that I

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Speaker 10: played in the league. I had that financial cushion to

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Speaker 10: where I can go get a massage, and most of

812
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Speaker 10: those guys are not getting massages. Most of those guys

813
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Speaker 10: don't know how to properly take care of their body.

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Speaker 10: So I'm treating myself like I'm still in the league. Well,

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Speaker 10: also showing them what they potentially could be doing, what

816
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Speaker 10: could take their game to the next level, and showing

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Speaker 10: those guys like it's not about just showing up and

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Speaker 10: going here and going home and playing the game and

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Speaker 10: hoping that we get a shot. No, we need to

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Speaker 10: go in here and stretch. We need to do that.

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Speaker 10: And because I had that money, I was able to

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Speaker 10: fly down massage therapist for other guys to help our

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Speaker 10: team be dominant, and Trey Lance can go do that.

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Speaker 10: On top of that, you get the experience to play,

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Speaker 10: you show that you have leadership qualities and showing the

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Speaker 10: organization and how to build a leadership format. On top

827
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Speaker 10: of that, you get your skills and you just evolve

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Speaker 10: as a player. So technically it is the best thing

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Speaker 10: for him to go do right now. But if your

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Speaker 10: pride in the way, and you sit there and you

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Speaker 10: say that I'm above this, football is football. At the

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Speaker 10: end of the day, when we strap up that helmet,

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Speaker 10: all the same risks happen, all the same rewards happen.

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Speaker 8: Going to get a championship or now he's talking benefits,

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Speaker 8: your talking price, And at some point in time, the

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Speaker 8: benefits have to outweigh the price, because if you ever

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Speaker 8: want the price again without the benefits, it ain't gonna happen.

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Speaker 8: Heck Mahrrison candis State guy. Cooper Beebe never played at all.

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Speaker 8: Cowboys threw him out there, had struggles last year. He

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Speaker 8: was an All American consensus All American for the Wildcats.

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Speaker 4: His former college coach is here.

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Speaker 8: He spoke about how BB's played all along the offensive line,

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Speaker 8: and we did ask him, are you considering moving him

844
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Speaker 8: back to guard where he was an excellent player or

845
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Speaker 8: did you leave him at center?

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Speaker 4: He kind of left it open. What would he Harrison get?

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Speaker 11: Now we get an opportunity to talk about a guy

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Speaker 11: that have halfo Is that such a thing as sweat equity?

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Speaker 11: Is that such a thing as a guy that has

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Speaker 11: already put in the time to show you that he

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00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 11: can be a center in this league. It's not that

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00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 11: he showed you through playing a position that he wasn't

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Speaker 11: previously playing in college. But I think he wasn't all pro,

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Speaker 11: it wasn't Pro Bowl. But he showed you, coming from

855
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Speaker 11: where you had let go previously of Tyler Piattish that

856
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Speaker 11: he filled in nicely. Right he was next to tackle,

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Speaker 11: he was next to a guard that really helped him

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Speaker 11: out tremendously too. Guards and Zach Martin obviously now retired

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Speaker 11: my stance on this, and even looking at brock Hoffman,

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Speaker 11: who was a center that he can and then complete

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Speaker 11: role reversal for both of these guys. But Hoffman showed

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Speaker 11: me that he can be a guard if you didn't

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Speaker 11: have that, and depending on where the Cowboys are thinking

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Speaker 11: as far as the draft, now, if you have an

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Speaker 11: all world center that's going to fall to you in

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Speaker 11: those first two rounds, now, my thinking is completely different,

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Speaker 11: all right. But right now, as I sit here right now,

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Speaker 11: I say that Cooper bb is your starting center, and

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Speaker 11: I think that's one less thing for you to have

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Speaker 11: to concentrate on, because now all I'm looking at is

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Speaker 11: either left tackle, right tackle, or right guard as.

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Speaker 6: An option me myself.

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Speaker 10: I'm not about to sit here and say that I'm

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Speaker 10: so Cohurst and all these guys.

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Speaker 6: I'm aware of them. But I had to go do

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Speaker 6: my research. What he said.

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Speaker 5: I had to go put ears in Google's your friends.

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Speaker 6: Not Google.

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Speaker 10: I had to go to the sources I talk. I

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Speaker 10: like to go to players because that's who's going to

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Speaker 10: tell you if they're studying film and stuff like that.

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Speaker 10: And so the consensus around the locker room is move them,

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Speaker 10: move them to guard.

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Speaker 6: Let brock do what he's supposed to.

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Speaker 10: He's bigger, he's athletic, he's showing you the capability that

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Speaker 10: he can do that. You put him at his position

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Speaker 10: that made him the money, got him an all consensus.

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Speaker 10: You have his coach coming back there, you have the

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Speaker 10: foundation for everything in the makings to who's going to

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Speaker 10: be that guy that's going to be the Zach Martin

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Speaker 10: that's going to transition right there. So it's like he

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Speaker 10: has all the frameworks right there. Let him go be

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Speaker 10: that guy and excel right there. On top of that

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Speaker 10: with brock Hoffman doing what he's doing, being smart, showing

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Speaker 10: that he has the athleticism, the team is rallying behind

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Speaker 10: him and they believe in what he's doing. You have

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Speaker 10: those two guys right there that can feed off each other.

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Speaker 10: Then it's like, now let's go work on the outside end.

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Speaker 10: So I'm gonna go there.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm I'm with you on this one when you

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Speaker 9: talk about because I like how Hoffman comes in and

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Speaker 9: play center. He's dirty's nasty, the type of guy that

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Speaker 9: you want on your offensive line. And BB was all

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Speaker 9: pro at you know, Kansas State, and that's what his

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Speaker 9: position was, god guard. But I'm also against switching back

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Speaker 9: and forth as a young player. And he's going into

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Speaker 9: a second year, plays center all this year, then they

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Speaker 9: move him to guard all next year. I'm not I'm

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Speaker 9: not a fan of switching second season. Yes, second like

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Speaker 9: it's I'm not a big fan of that. But I

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Speaker 9: love what Hoffman brings to the table. So I wouldn't

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Speaker 9: be mad if Hoffman went into that center position. You

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Speaker 9: solidified it with BB on one side, and then you

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Speaker 9: got my guy Tyler Smith.

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Speaker 6: On the other. So so you want BB.

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Speaker 5: At guard, Yeah, I would put BB at guard.

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Speaker 6: That's all we want.

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Speaker 5: Back of them at guard. I don't want to like

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Speaker 5: that be the young.

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Speaker 8: One thing that I would say that does help BB

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Speaker 8: if you put him at guard is now he has

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Speaker 8: to think less. He doesn't have to make the calls

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Speaker 8: to read anything. You just go out here and go

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Speaker 8: be nasty and do what you do. You're replacing Zach Martin.

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Speaker 8: And if I take BB, put him at guard where

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Speaker 8: he has some natural ability to take the experience from

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Speaker 8: being a center. Now he's back over to guard a

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Speaker 8: little bit easier. Put Hoffman there. What are we talking

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Speaker 8: about this team? You have munch the issues you have.

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Speaker 8: You don't have enough draft capital fill all your needs.

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Speaker 8: You could potentially solve this right here to have to

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Speaker 8: use a draft pick or free agent capital and put

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Speaker 8: it in other places because lord b.

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Speaker 4: Let's see what happens here.

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