1 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: We're exactly two months away from the Major League Baseball 2 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: trade deadline, and. 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: As good as the Mets have played this year, they 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: can be better. 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: We want them to be better, and specifically, we know 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: that there are holes on this team that need to 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: be addressed in the faster we do it, the better 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: players we get, the better this team will look come 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: playoff time. So in today's video, we're going to be 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: discussing the five possible trade deadline targets for the New 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: York Mets as of right now on May thirty first. 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 2: This could change in a couple of weeks. This could 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: change in a month. 14 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep updating you guys every so often with 15 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: these trade deadline possible target videos. As we go along, 16 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: as teams get worse, as teams drop out of playoff contention, 17 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: more and more more players will be available. 18 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: So, James, where do we want to start this one off? 19 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: I think I want to start one off with someone 20 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: that was considered the Mets primary trade deadline target at 21 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: the beginning of the season, so much other players and 22 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: the Mets actual team we're openly talking about it, but 23 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 3: has had a to put it nicely, very bad season 24 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: so far. And Sandy al Contra starting pitcher on the Marlins. 25 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: I think that the baseball world right now is kind 26 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: of halfway still in shock about how bad Sandy's been 27 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 3: since returning from tom of John surgery. He's got an 28 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: ERA over eight one point sixty five whip only forty 29 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: strikeouts and fifty innings. It's been horrific. But I do 30 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: think that as much as this could possibly exist in 31 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 3: the real world, so I don't really think it does 32 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: more of like a fantasy baseball phrase, fantasy football phrase. 33 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: He is kind of a quint essential bylow right now, 34 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 3: and I think that's a really good spot to be 35 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: for a team like the Mets who needs a pitcher. 36 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially the fact that he's got controllable years, the 37 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: contract's pretty cheap, he's not getting paid that much money, 38 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: and the fact that he's still throwing ninety seven ninety 39 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: eight ninety nine miles an hour. To me, that was 40 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: my biggest concern, and something that we've talked about in 41 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: this podcast before, is that a lot of times coming 42 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: back from Tommy John, the velo bounces back quicker than 43 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: the command does. And it really does feel like right 44 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: now for Sandy al Contro, who's been a command guy 45 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: with good velo in the past. The amount that he's 46 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: walking guys is crazy high considering what he's done in 47 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: the past, the lack of chase, the lack of whifth. 48 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: It just feels like he's kind of still shaking off 49 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: the rust. Along with the fact that the Marlins, relatively speaking, 50 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: still don't develop pictures recently that well, so I could 51 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: see maybe getting him in a fresh place, along with 52 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: getting him under the tutelage of Jeremy Hefner. We've seen 53 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: what he could do to Griffin Canning, imagine what we 54 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: could do to Sandi al Contra. I love this fit, 55 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: and like you said, this is the perfect by Low. 56 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: I can't imagine the asking point is gonna be too crazy, 57 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: and they kind of have to trade him as well. 58 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: They do have to trade him, that's true. I still 59 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 3: think the asking point will be pretty crazy because he 60 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: has He's making ten million year through the twenty twenty seven, 61 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: so so. 62 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 2: It's that cheap. I thought he was getting twenty. 63 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 3: I think it might go up to twenty. I'm looking 64 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: right now at the five or fifty six or twenty 65 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: twenty seven club option he signed check because they're the 66 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 3: big escalator's the back end of it. But that's why 67 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: I kind of intro that where it's like, yeah, he 68 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: seems like a by low eight era. He stinks he doesn't. 69 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: That's not how the models of car and think about 70 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: this like he is. 71 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: So he's seventeen million this year, seventeen million in twenty 72 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty one million twenty twenty seven, and that's 73 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: a team option in twenty twenty seven as well. 74 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 3: And that's still very cheap. It's Frankie Monters money, has 75 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: Frankie Mount's money for Sandy al Contra, And I do 76 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 3: think that it's just been seen for years and years 77 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: now going back guys coming back from Tommy John surgery, 78 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: the stuff will come back first, and that's kind of 79 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: the most important thing. If Sandy had now em really 80 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: going to try galaxy brain this one. If Sandy had 81 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: a two point two era but was sitting ninety five, 82 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: I would say I don't even want him at all. 83 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: But the fact that he's sitting ninety seven ninety eight 84 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: still the breaking balls all of the same same philosoity. 85 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: He's still getting tons of ground balls, which is kind 86 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 3: of the thing with Sandy. The way that Sandy elevated 87 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 3: himself from like this kind of high potential flame throwering 88 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: sinkerballer when the Marlins first acquired him from the Cardinals, 89 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: from Marcelo Zuna to this stud was that simply when 90 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: he limited the walks and became a guy who could 91 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: actually place the ball where he intended to place it 92 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: because the stuff was always so nasty. Now we're kind 93 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: of seeing the reverse of Sandy. We're right now, We're 94 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: kind of seeing like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen Sandy a 95 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: contra right now, which is kind of funny that we're 96 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: seeing down in the flesh. But I do believe that 97 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: if you give him another month, six weeks, by the 98 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: time we actually get to the trade deadline, you probably 99 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 3: see a few good starts from Sandy. It's probably what 100 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: the Marlins are waiting for now, holding on to, waiting 101 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: for that to click back in. But I'm I'm fully 102 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: confident that for this year, next year, the year after that, 103 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: he could still be a very good starting pitcher in 104 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: this league. 105 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, he would be a great frontline guy to add 106 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: to this rotation, especially because Mets, I know, the defense 107 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: has been a little bit shakier this year, but relatively speaking, 108 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: play good defense, especially in the infield now with Brett 109 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: Baty playing third base, so getting him ground balls is 110 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: gonna be really good for Sandy, where the Marlins play 111 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: pretty horrible defense as well. 112 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, horrible, horrible defense. It's just also it's these things 113 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: seem like they're kind of snowball And also Santy's here weirdly, 114 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: he has had two starts against the Dodgers, where if 115 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: you have two starts and with eleven start sample against 116 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: the Dodgers like that, that's going to affect what you're doing. Also, 117 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 3: he did get hit hard by like the White Sox 118 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: and the Angels, a bunch of bad teams as well. 119 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: But just the fact that in the middle of this, 120 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: when things were starting to really fall out of control, 121 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: it was back to back starts. 122 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: Because the way I'm going to be. 123 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 3: So so artfully does their schedule against the Dodgers with 124 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 3: the Marlins, like, that's just it was a recipe for disaster. 125 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: And he's really just kind of fallen off a little bit. 126 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: So even more since Yeah, to kind of keep on 127 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: that theme here, another trade target guy who's fallen off 128 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: quite a bit, not playing particularly well, another classic by Low. 129 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: It seems like we're gonna talk about him. You guys 130 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: are gonna pissed. But it's Louis Robert Junior. It's gonna 131 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: be until he is traded to another team. I'm still 132 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: gonna have the pipe dream of the Mets going out 133 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: and going after him. I know the numbers are putridly bad. 134 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: I know he looks horrendous. He has an OPS below 135 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: six hundred. That's exactly why I want him, because he's 136 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: never played worse, and yet he's still doing all the 137 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: things that made you so so excited about him as 138 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: a younger prospect. 139 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: He's only twenty seven years old right now. 140 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: There's not many players that you'll find on the trade 141 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: market right now in Major League Baseball that have the 142 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: relative ceiling that a guy like Louis Robert can have. 143 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: The floor is bottom, it's bad, it's scary. The floor 144 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: is terrifying for Louis Robert. But that ceiling is so, so, 145 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: so crazy high. He could be a difference maker. He 146 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: could change the way this Mets team feels for the 147 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: entire for the entire second half of the season. 148 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: I don't even know if the floor is as low 149 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: as you're saying it is, because no matter what, you're 150 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: getting someone with these blazing physical tools who can play 151 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: a tremendous center field. And that's the other thing. Louise 152 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: Robert is still he's still seeing the effort that he's 153 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: giving on defense every single game for this White Sax team. 154 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 3: He's still getting dirty. He leads the league of stolen 155 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: bases right now, which is amazing for the guy in 156 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 3: the worst team. Bassebaly, He's saying, I'm on base, I'm 157 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: gonna go. And the funny thing is, we did a 158 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 3: breakout of episode about Louis Robert junior rumors about a 159 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 3: month ago. Now when the Mess re linked him for 160 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: the first time that weird awkward Sunday against the Cubs, 161 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 3: Oh metageres and Louis Robert has kind of dropped out 162 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: nowhere somehow coincidentally, right now, Louis Robert is doing some 163 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: of the best things with his eye he's played, discipline 164 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: and his ball of ball stats he's ever done as 165 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 3: a professional baseball player. His chase rate is down, his 166 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: own swing is up. He's swinging tons of pitches the 167 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 3: hard of his own his seeger, which again Robert Lorris 168 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: swing Metric on Baseball Perspectives ninety first percentile in baseball 169 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 3: ninety first percentile. It's never been. It's barely been about 170 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: fifty for most of his career. He's pulling tons of 171 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: fly balls. He's still hitting the ball very very hard, 172 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 3: not actually hitting it that much while he's making good decisions. 173 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: He's swinging and missing very often. But again, he's chasing 174 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: the fewest pitches that strikes, so he's ever chasing his career. 175 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: And I do think that he actually is trending up 176 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: of late. He's brought that batting average from one sixty 177 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: to one ninety over the last few weeks. That's pretty good. 178 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: It's huge, right, his expected WOLB was over bethan league 179 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: average over his last hundred plate appearances. Like this is 180 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: someone that while the stats look bad now, think about 181 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: someone right now. Gavin Sheets in San Diego was trapped 182 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: on this horrible White Sox team for the last few years. 183 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: It's never never even close to the caliber players. Luis 184 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: Robert's got eleven homer so far as season on the Padres, Like, 185 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: you get these guys out of these situations, you bring 186 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 3: him to a clubhouse that is a winning team, expected 187 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: to win baseball games. Get a little Jews, get a 188 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: little muchi'so going in there. I mean, we've got a 189 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: lot of Latin guys in this team. He'd be the 190 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: first Cuban I think on the Mets. 191 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: Louis Robert believe. So, yeah, it would be. 192 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: I think that it would be like an instant spin 193 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: walk into the locker room. Everything changes on the time. 194 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: FT fan by now you know if you're buying, selling, trading, 195 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: collecting cards, Arena Club is the spot. We've been talking 196 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 4: about them all season long. But I do want to 197 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 4: focus on the slab pack experience Scrats. Since you've been 198 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 4: ripping some slab packs digitally and what happens. 199 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 5: I mean, as a kid, you wanted to rip open 200 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 5: the packs. How can they do this digitally? Oh baby, 201 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 5: this is exciting. 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So it's hard too when you 224 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: started your career at the top and then there's been 225 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: this lull where there's been no progression. 226 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: Everything's getting worse. You're a joke. It's not an excuse. 227 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: For Louis Robert to play the way he has, But 228 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: if there was ever a reason as to why a 229 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: player with his talent and of his caliber could be 230 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: struggling like this. 231 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: I think that's a big reason why. 232 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 3: And a guy like Luis Robert is aware of how 233 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: much he's struggling. He's not kind of like taking these 234 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: lumps of me like, oh, I guess I'm playing like shit. 235 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: Someone asked him about how he's been dealing with all 236 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: the trade roomers the media. He's like, I'm hitting one 237 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 3: seventy who wants to trade for me. So it's like 238 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: he has an understanding of what's actually how bad his 239 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: year has been. I don't know this similar to me 240 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: at the Jazz has some situation last. 241 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 2: Ye at the Yeah, yes, oh my god. 242 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 3: He arrives and then it's like everything is different because 243 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: it's the first time that you're able to meet for Jazz. 244 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: Was the first time for Robert he had I mean 245 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: Jazz actually he had made the playoffs technically yeah, but 246 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: for the Robert to get out of that team, it's 247 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: like it's it feels like you'd be like kind of 248 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 3: saving in abandoned puppy and you can bring you can 249 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: bring him to a great home he live on to 250 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 3: have a great life. 251 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: It's a rescue dog. 252 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: It's all this like he might be a little skittish 253 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: at first, he might not be comfortable, but by the 254 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: end of you're gonna know belove on that dog. 255 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: Go sad to see him go. 256 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 3: That's I think he is a dog. But if all 257 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 3: the hitters havevailable on the market right now, the Mets 258 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: don't really need Again, this is funny to say so bad. 259 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 3: The Met's lineup has been the only position they actually 260 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 3: are abble to really improve upon the deadline, I guess. 261 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: I mean, we'll see what happens their base for the 262 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: next two months, but it's centerfield and Robert is the 263 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: difference maker centerfield. They're available, Cedric Comlin's available too, but 264 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 3: Robert is in a different eche lone of players. 265 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: Yes, now have to bring it back to the pitching because, 266 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: of course, again I think that's what every Mets fans 267 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: thinks the most important. Kevin Gosman. It's the name I 268 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: think we got to throw out there. There's not been 269 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: a lot of talk about Kevin Gosman on the trade block. 270 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: The Blue Jays are still technically ish in it. They 271 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: are only two games back in the Wildcard so this 272 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: one's a little bit more unrealistic because their season is 273 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: not over by any means. 274 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: Just yet. 275 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: But if you've listened to any of our content ever, 276 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: we are the biggest proponents of the Blue Jays are 277 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: the Kings of mid and we'll finish with eighty one 278 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: wins this year eighty one to eighty one, lock it 279 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: in most five hundred team ever. 280 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 2: Kevin Gozman has an expiring contract after. 281 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: Next season, and the Blue Jays are still not going 282 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: to be good next season either, unless they go out 283 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: and make massive, massive moves this next offseason. This might 284 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: be a good time to maybe cashing on Kevin Gosman, 285 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: who seems to be figuring something out again this year. 286 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: Especially where over the last year plus it seems like 287 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: Kevin Gousman has lost a lot of values just because 288 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: he hasn't pitched very well. He went from being one 289 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 3: of the best pitches in theleague a couple years ago 290 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 3: it's last season being someone who was, I don't know, 291 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: borderline top fifty guys, someone who was like kind of 292 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: more of a forty RA guy into three RA guy, 293 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: kind of the Gaustman've gotten used to. But recently, and 294 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: literally when I say recently, I mean very recently his 295 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: last two starts, it seems like Gaustman has really turned 296 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: a corner, and each of those last two starts, he 297 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 3: had thirteen and eleven swings and misses on his splither 298 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 3: Gasman splitther has always been his out pitch. He's never 299 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 3: really been able to develop any kind of breaking ball. 300 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: It's literally his entire career. Ever, he's always tried and 301 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: take over the slider, he's never gotten a hold of it, 302 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 3: so it's really just been as splither and his fastball. 303 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: So if ever one of those pitches wasn't great, he 304 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: would not even be good, and that happened to his 305 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 3: splitther recently. But this media availability after his most recent start, 306 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 3: and he said he'd been tinkering with a splither grip, 307 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: trying to rediscover its movement, and he actually finally found it. 308 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 3: And now he's found it literally in these last two starts. Again, 309 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 3: I told you guys, thirteen whifs and eleven wiffs. If 310 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 3: you go back to his last forty one starts that 311 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: spans beginning of the year, all of last year, and 312 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: the tail end of twenty twenty three season, he only 313 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: had at least eleven swings and misses with that splither 314 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: three separate times. Shout out a picture less Nick Pollock 315 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 3: the goat for that note right there, but him finding 316 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 3: that grip, that just tells me that this is someone 317 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: who is not an ace, but someone that is definitely 318 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 3: backed being at least a solid tune and a good rotation. 319 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 320 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: So the two things that's scary about Gosman that I'll 321 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: mention briefly. One, he doesn't believe have an eight team 322 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: no trade clause, so maybe the Mets could be on there. 323 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: I know we were somewhat interested him in his free 324 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: agent offseason. They did pick the blue Jays. He went 325 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 1: to Toronto willingly, so maybe he doesn't want to be 326 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: a Met that's always a possibility. Two, I mean, along 327 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: with the blue Jays maybe not wanting to trade him. 328 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: But also you mentioned him figuring it out again, there's 329 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: something to be said about how finicky he is as 330 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: a pitcher where things Yeah, if things aren't perfect, he 331 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: is horrible. When things are right, he's incredible. That does 332 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: scare me, especially for a team where like we can't 333 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: really have the hot and cold is scary when you 334 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: have a picture that you're relying on like that, especially 335 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: come playoff time. If we get the version of Kevin 336 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: Goswen where he's like, oh my splitter, Grip's a little 337 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: bit weird. He's gonna get sheldy. He's gonna be useless. 338 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 3: And I think a guy like Gosman as well, we 339 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: would have to give up probably a bit of a 340 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 3: like where do you think Gosman's value winds up relative 341 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 3: to Sandy's value? Like what prospect you were giving up 342 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 3: for these guys? 343 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: I think it's way less for Gosman than Sandy. I 344 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: still Sandy's got the control, and he's younger. Gosman's thirty four. 345 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: You're gonna be paying him what close to twenty five 346 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars next season at age thirty five, twenty 347 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: two million I believe. Okay, that's actually pretty fair cheap honestly. 348 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, the age and the lack of control. I 349 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: think it's still going to be a top prospect. I 350 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: don't think it's like give up nobody type thing. But 351 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna take the same haul that 352 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: you would for a Sandy. It's one year difference of 353 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: control for someone who's pitching light years better. Yeah, I 354 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: think the age thing, and I think the fact that 355 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: he has been so finicky, I don't know it's I 356 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: think people in baseball still regard Sandy as a great pitcher, 357 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: Like there might be one of those things where you're 358 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: looking around and nobody wants to say it because you're 359 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: hoping nobody else realizes what's wrong with Sandy Worth. 360 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: With Gosman, you're like, he kind of is what he is. 361 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 2: He's just a good picture. 362 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah it's a good picture. But he's someone who much 363 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: more recently than Sandy was a great pitcher. Actually the 364 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: exact same time. They were great pictures, both them. Twenty 365 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 3: twenty three, the last time they were great, but Sandy 366 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: wasn't as good then twenty twenty two, twenty twenty one, 367 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: really Sandy's big time seasons. But I don't know, I 368 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 3: still think that I don't think that for either of 369 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 3: these guys you have to part with Jonah Tong. I 370 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: don't think that that that's the range we're in. But 371 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 3: I do think you might have to do Blade plus 372 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 3: Blade plus an asset, Blade plus a decent Hither. 373 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, it might who's that Hither? Though 374 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: it is. 375 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: I don't want to say he's just bias the love 376 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: of my life, but like that that to me feels 377 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: like what the range would be like a very talented 378 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 3: hitter who's still an a ball and a picture that 379 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: probably doesn't have as much of the ceiling but is close. 380 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 381 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I was even thinking that it could be 382 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: even like a is jet too much? 383 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: Maybe jet straight up? 384 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, is it just like 385 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: a jet for this guy? Is that too much? 386 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 3: I feel like the Blue Jays might prefer a package 387 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: like that, but the Marlins probably want more volume where 388 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 3: I think the Blue Jays would be like, yeah, we 389 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: have a guy who we could say is our short 390 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 3: stops Billie of the team actually needs a short stop 391 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: because Boba Schet's Gonzo and our ju Namala is very 392 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: far away and we still we don't know what position 393 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: is going to play at major league level. But maybe 394 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: that Jeff for Gosman, He would you do Jeff for 395 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: Gosman two years of Kevin Gosman, thirty four and thirty 396 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: five year old Kevin Gosman. 397 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: I'd have to consider it's a good thing. I don't 398 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: have to make that decision right now. I want to 399 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: see what he looks like at the end of June 400 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: when we do this video in a month. I'll let 401 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: you know if I want to do that. Trader not 402 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: because Jed also looks great, but that's not the point 403 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: of this episode. We're talking about trade options. We got 404 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: two more for you guys here, along with a special 405 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: honorable mention at the end that we have to briefally 406 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: talk about. This is I don't want to say he's 407 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: your boy, but this is more than your wheelhouse. Now, 408 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: we got a relief pitcher. The Mets need a left 409 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: handed reliever. We know this AJ Minter's hurt. We don't 410 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: know when he's coming back. Garrett Clevenger Tampa Bay Raise. 411 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about him. 412 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: So Clevenger left handed reliever on the Rays. He has 413 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: mixed into their high leverage roles over the last season 414 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: plus he's been with the team. We were looking through 415 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: the Rais bullpen before this. Somehow they have three former 416 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: Mets in this ballpen, which is crazy ed when you 417 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: say this. Sha has one appearance and made with the 418 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 3: Mets of twenty twenty three, and then Eric Oreza than 419 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 3: Cole Soltzler, but clevengerd While I don't know if the 420 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: Rays will trade him because they're in the Wildcard race. 421 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: They're abovebove five hundred, they're playing good baseball, and he 422 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 3: has again been one of their highest leverage relievers. He's 423 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: out of minor league options. Usually when a reliever like 424 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: this is pitching wells out of minor league options, the 425 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 3: Rays are kind of willing to trade them no matter 426 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: what the situation is. It really does not matter at all. 427 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 3: And he's a funky lefty that is mostly sinker slyder. 428 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: But his sinker is so good and he throws it 429 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 3: night six miles an hour, so hard. He's able to 430 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: throw it against right handed bathers and it's still an 431 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 3: effective pitch for him. That's something that has changed a 432 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: lot this year he started. This is the first year 433 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: he's been throwing that sinker against right handed batters. It's 434 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: really helped his has helped his effectiveness. On top of 435 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: tight slider and a sweeper and a little color and 436 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 3: a little fastball, he has a light. It's really mostly 437 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 3: just though, that tight slider and the sinker, and he 438 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 3: kind of just throws them both against everybody and they 439 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: struggle to hit him because he's got a weird arm angle. 440 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: He's kind of more of a like he's out a 441 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 3: full side arm guy, but he's a download slot guy. Yeah, 442 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 3: he's three quarter guy, and it's it's he stays around 443 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: the strikes on a lot. He doesn't walk anybody, especially 444 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: for a lefty that doesn't. I'm trying to find ways 445 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: to describe what the sinker is. Kind of like he's 446 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: trying to strike someone, but his hard to square up? 447 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 3: Is he Brooks Raley? 448 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 2: Is that what he is? He's Brooks Raley? 449 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: Foks really through ninety six ninety seven? How hard did 450 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: Brooks really through ninety four ninety five? Yeah, And Brooks 451 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: Rally is a guy we probably do get back at 452 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: some point this summer. But I do think that the 453 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 3: Mets will at the trade deadline. I'll put my put 454 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: the stamp on it. They're going to go out and 455 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 3: together reliever, and I'm assuming it will be someone to 456 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 3: throw us from the left side. And I think Clevenger 457 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 3: is a guy who has three years of control but 458 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 3: no options left, that the race would just be like, 459 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 3: you give us one interesting guy in the minor leagues. 460 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: Would be willing to do that. 461 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll keep it back before similar to Brooks Railey, 462 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 3: exactly what happened brook Raley. 463 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's why. That's why I brought it up. 464 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm like from the Rays as well, it just feels 465 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: like this is Brooks really two point Other're got a 466 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: spider man meet each other in pointed and like you 467 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: me and the same great great to have both in 468 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: the same ballpend because again, like he's he's good. I 469 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: feel like he does that thing the Mets like where 470 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: it's like he has the color of the fastball and 471 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: the sinker. So I'm sure that they would find a 472 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: way to manipulate the usage of those three pitchers because 473 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: all three of them are plus pitches, and if you 474 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: could find a way to kind of manicure exactly which 475 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: ones he's throwing at which time, you have probably one 476 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: of the better high leverage So that's your relievers in 477 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: baseball ft FAM. 478 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 4: You might have a boring, old, crusty, unpretty razor, and 479 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 4: it might be expensive, so AJ should they consider another option? 480 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 6: Look how cool this is. Look at the color scheme. 481 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 6: Look at it little sheath of what hide the blades 482 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 6: when you travel? Works great. I mean using this for 483 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 6: a couple of weeks now on Harry's clean no bumps, 484 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 6: no cuts works great. And you know the best part, 485 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 6: it's a great price, especially if you use the foul 486 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 6: territory Cod Scott. 487 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 4: That's right, Harry's dot com slash foul. 488 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: Guess what. 489 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 4: You can also get yourself a no risk trial So 490 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 4: if you don't like your shave, no worries, it's on Harry's. 491 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 4: They're not worried about it. Get the edge on your 492 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 4: shave with Harry's. Normally the trial set is ten dollars, 493 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 4: but right now you can get it for just six 494 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 4: dollars at Harry's dot com slash foul. Use the exclusive 495 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 4: link Harry's dot com slash foul for a trial set. 496 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: Yep. 497 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: Last guy we'll talk about before we mentioned the Big boy. 498 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: This is my boy, and I put a lot of 499 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: slander on his name in the offseason, and you know 500 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: what it was, No, it was rightful because he's got nothing. 501 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: He's got absolutely no stuff. He throws eighty five miles 502 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: an hour. Now he throws ninety two miles an hour, 503 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: but he's got nothing. But he just goes out and 504 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: he pitches pretty well every single time. And it is 505 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: Tomo Yuki Sugano. He will be free. You can surely 506 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: get this guy he's Japanese Paul Blackburn, Like that's basically 507 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: what he is. And I'm in you talk about you 508 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: want to have a five beers and watch Paul Blackburn 509 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: pitching in August. I want to watch Tomoyuki Sugano pitch 510 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: in August. I'm drinking sake. I'm at at City Field. 511 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm ready to go Tomoyuki Sigano again. Like as Mark 512 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: is saying so eloquently, he does kind of have nothing, 513 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: but the reason he's able to be so successful is 514 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: that he has. He has a very good splitter, and 515 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: that splitter is a pitch that he uses a good bitch. 516 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 2: There's most thrown. 517 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 3: Pitch this year, but that's kind of mostly at of 518 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 3: wack because he throws it so much against the lefties. 519 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: That's like the only pitch they see. But then it 520 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: comes in with a sweeper, a color, a fastball, like 521 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 3: a side like he's got curveball, he's got tons of nonsense, 522 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 3: a bunch of just literal bullshit, and that color has 523 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: been really good pitch for him. It's one that he 524 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 3: kind of went away from and he's come back with 525 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 3: a lot. He started throwing that slather harder, which is 526 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 3: helping him a lot. It seems like he's intending to 527 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 3: just kind of wing that pitch as hard as he 528 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 3: gets it. He is, I don't even give a little 529 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: bit more than Japanese Paul Black friend like he is. 530 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 3: I think he does have a slightly higher ceiling in 531 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: that because he's a guy we're seeing right now as 532 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 3: this Oils team has disintegrated around him. Still has a 533 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: three point two ERA and he's pitching good ball going 534 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 3: out there every fifth day. He's only on a one 535 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: year contract right now, so I'm sure the Oiols guns 536 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: look to trade him as these things continue to get worse. 537 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 3: And he's got great command while he throws a lot 538 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 3: of junk, doesn't walk anybody, and that's a really good sign. 539 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, four percent walk right this year, he's got an 540 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: eightieth percentile chase rate, which is kind of insane for again, 541 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: a guy who has nothing and yeah, his heart like 542 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: he's bay I was born in darkness as exactly it is. 543 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: And his hard hit rate seventy first percent house, So 544 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: like there's there's some fun things. And that was just 545 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,239 Speaker 1: a chaos name to throw out there before we talk 546 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: about the big one that everyone's been waiting for you 547 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: saw it in the thumbnail. 548 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: We have to mention it so it's not completely clicked. 549 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: Bait Paul Skans, right, Paul Skans is available, Let's make 550 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: a trade for Paul Skans. 551 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 3: Paul Skeans is He's not fucking getting traded. It's crazy 552 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 3: the way the Major League Baseball media. This should be 553 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,239 Speaker 3: ad to a media marvel at some point. The way 554 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: they're pretending that Paul Skans available via trade just to 555 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 3: get clicks for the month of May. 556 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: It's usually Harrington being hard. We are not trading him. 557 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: What are you crazy? 558 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 3: Why would we trade him? But let's just say in 559 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 3: the fantasy world that Paul Skins is available for trade, 560 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: I would trade any the top seven product, any literally 561 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: anything they ask for. I would do Francisco Alvarez, Joonah Tong, 562 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: Brandon Sprote. If the god was Paul Skans, I would 563 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 3: even I would throw much more on top of that. 564 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna just say something crazy right now. Do 565 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: you trade Francisco Lindor for Paul Skins, then who's play 566 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: short stop? 567 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: This is for you to think. 568 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: I'm just just me throwing it out there chaos. To 569 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: end the episode, let's get crazy. They wouldn't accept that trade. 570 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: I guess theoretically I would, Okay, I don't. 571 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: You wouldn't. No, I wouldn't do that trade. 572 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 3: I don't think the Pirates would either, But I think 573 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: objectively in. 574 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: A world where they would take the money, they money's 575 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: not an option to that. 576 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 2: But then they just pay Paul Skeens. But don't worry 577 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 2: about that. 578 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, as I'm saying, like, they would be like you 579 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: want us to take on the thirty four million dollar year, 580 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 3: thirty one year old short stop for the for the 581 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 3: starting pitchers twenty three years old and free? 582 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 2: Why not? Come on? 583 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't do that trade away. But yeah, the 584 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: bets aren't are not getting Paul Skins. No one's getting 585 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: Paul Skians except the Pirates. They're gonna be mediocre and 586 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: terrible for the next four years. 587 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: Waste them. 588 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: But like you said, there is nobody on this roster 589 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: that like is a prospect or a younger player that 590 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade on. Trade them all together in one trade. 591 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: You want nineteen guys, take them all? 592 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would basically give them almost like our top 593 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 3: twelve prospects in a package for Paul Skins Brooklyn Cyclones, 594 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 3: who says, no, I've given the. 595 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 2: Rights to your organization. 596 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys want a second single a team we'll need, 597 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 3: but anymore, we'll skip the rest of all the life 598 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 3: of the Boys. 599 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: Give them the King Sports Mets. I know they don't 600 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: exist anymore, but maybe you could fool Bob Nutting. 601 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 3: They can take every single prospect except for Ryan Lambert. 602 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: I'm in. Yeah, Ryan Lambert's gotta be in city Field. 603 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 3: Ryan Lambert stay as everyone else goes. And it does 604 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,719 Speaker 3: not matter who, It doesn't matter how much do you want? 605 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 3: You want twenty million dollars on top take that too 606 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 3: fifty minutes? 607 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 4: Oh wow? 608 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: Would that? 609 00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 3: Could you pay them? 610 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 2: Can you do that? 611 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 3: Transfers? 612 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 2: This is just we're making the episode longer now for 613 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: no reason. 614 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: But can you just give money that doesn't go towards 615 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: like the players contract? He'd be like one hundred million 616 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: dollars in for Paul Schemes. I actually, you actually can't 617 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: do that. And this happened in one of the first 618 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: ever this what happened, This was the Philadelphia at No 619 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: was it was right when the Athletics moved to Oakland. 620 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: Charlie Finley when they won a couple of championships. They 621 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: had I believe it was Louis. 622 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: Tian at the time, and they had They were trading 623 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: off the whole the entire World Series roster, then Capfish, Hunter, Roby, 624 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 3: Roley Fingers. I don't know, I remember big bad baseball history. 625 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: But the Red Sox tried to buy like three players, 626 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 3: and the commission steped in and said, you can't do this. 627 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 3: Charlie Finley was like, why, Like, I have no money 628 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 3: in free agency and baseball's free agency now this was 629 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 3: your slight before free agency. But the Redstocks tried to 630 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: buy a bunch of players to trade deadline and the 631 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 3: commissioner said, you can't do that. 632 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: All right, what if we give them a player and 633 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: a lot of money, is that allowed done? 634 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 3: I think the money can only go to pay for 635 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 3: something specific. Can't just hand them the catch because the 636 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 3: problem is all these owners would do that. 637 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, of course that's the problem. There no more. 638 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 3: Free agency would just be soccer. 639 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 2: We get everybody. 640 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be us, the Yankees, Dodgers, Tucks. We have 641 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 3: all even more of all the players. 642 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: Than we do now. My dream world, that sounds amazing. 643 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: Exactly all right, guys, that's it. Five possible trade rumors. 644 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: Let us know in the comment section who you think 645 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: the Mets should be looking to target. What names do 646 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: we forget? Remember to drop a lke on the video 647 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: if you enjoy it. Subscribe to the Mets the podcast 648 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: YouTube channel if you want to hear the audio version 649 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: of this, because we do podcasts after every single series. Apple, Spotify, Google, 650 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: wherever you find it. 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