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Speaker 1: He's celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Mark Easlee

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Speaker 1: path back to a quarterback t a toupsdown. This is

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Speaker 1: the Doug Moron Show. The Doug Moron Show. Former Jaguar

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Speaker 1: Jeff Loghman and J. P. Shadrick discussed the latest Jaguars

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Speaker 1: news with the head coach. The Doug Moron Show starts

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Speaker 1: right now. Welcome to The Doug Brone Show, presented by

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Speaker 1: the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles. JP Shadrick,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Logman. I thought we were leaving in Jackson, Miller.

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Speaker 1: We're here. We're here. We got an hour of The

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Speaker 1: Dug Moron Show, Tony to sell you with us good

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Speaker 1: from Yeah. I'm literally faced on what you said. I

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Speaker 1: I almost hung up. No, that's I forgot. We had

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Speaker 1: another hour that's on me. So I'm like, okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: we'll see you later. Get a little free time out

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Speaker 1: of here. Model almost had the J P. Shadrick, So

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Speaker 1: for real, Um, So here we are. The off season

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Speaker 1: hope they're somewhere warm, you know, on a sandy beach,

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Speaker 1: drinking a my tie, whatever it is that they like

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Speaker 1: the family, wherever that may be. You know, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't believe you. I think you do a little time

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Speaker 1: And so that's not an easy thing to do. And

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Speaker 1: which cannot be cannot be underestimated because you know, look,

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Speaker 1: we we've spent some time around the staff obviously throughout

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Speaker 1: could just sense the tension, the anxiety and everything else

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Speaker 1: what I mean, they're they're friends of ours and they're

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Speaker 1: It's not too late. I mean you see changes this

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Speaker 1: will be interesting to see if Doug replaces Scott Milanovich,

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Speaker 1: made a big impression, Jeff, you say all that. I

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Speaker 1: do is we're gonna be like Gardner Minshew and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna put it on Instagram and we're gonna tweet about

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Speaker 1: it and uh we'll go live. We might go Instagram

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Speaker 1: live on. Yeah, we might do it. Well, um, let

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Speaker 1: me know when you go, and I will show to

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Speaker 1: the places that we don't broadcast and we just go

431
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: stuff our faces. All right, He's fine. I thought you

432
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: were want to die. I am, but you know, Chicken

433
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: Fright's Day, I just want to reception. That's your cheat day,

434
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: not cheat Jaguar's defense. How many of these starting guys

435
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: are not gonna be here next year? Darius is gone? Right?

436
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: I think he? I think he has to be. I

437
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: mean his uh cap savings on him is like twenty million.

438
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Speaker 1: I mean that's a no brainer. Uh, I don't see here.

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00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: One thing I want to just kind of put out

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Speaker 1: here is that I think I think three of these

441
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: three guys that we're gonna talk about are all possibly gone,

442
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: but hopefully can come back some other type of number

443
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: that makes sense for the for the team and also

444
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: makes sense for the player. And those three are are

445
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: pretty simple. Marcel Darius who about a twenty million dollar

446
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: cap savings, Clais Campbell, which is about a fifteen million

447
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: dollar cap savings, and then a J. Boy A is

448
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: about an eleven million dollar cap savings. And so we're

449
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: roughly forty seven million and cap savings with those three guys.

450
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: And and here here's the thing I think that you've

451
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: got to be cautious of is that you know, your

452
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: first instinct to get the cap back into a healthy,

453
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: healthy state is let go of those three guys and

454
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: just move on. But if you do that, now you're

455
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: you've got three more holes to fill, and you've already

456
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: got holes to fill with his football team, both offensively

457
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: and defensively. So you've got to be cautious. And I

458
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: think that trying to bring back Clay's Campbell at a

459
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: reasonable number and you maybe lower some of his snaps,

460
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 1: I think is a would be a great thing. Um

461
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: A J. Boyer, could you make his cap number more reasonable?

462
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: Great question? He he hasn't had the type of year

463
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: that justifies his contracts since that's reality and Marcel dari issue,

464
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 1: you're just not gonna pay. There's not a defensive tackle

465
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 1: in the league with the exception of a couple of

466
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: guys that are worth twenty million cap number, And that's

467
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: just the reality there. So in Marcel Darius is aging

468
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: and and his market is not gonna get him twenty

469
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Speaker 1: million elsewhere. So you mean have a chance to bring

470
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: all three of these guys back, but you can't have

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Speaker 1: them at the numbers that you're at. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you feel losing Marcel Darius because he was out for

473
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Speaker 1: most of the year, so I don't really view that

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Speaker 1: as a hole to be filled that p doesn't come back.

475
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: I agree with Jeff if you can get him back

476
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Speaker 1: at the right number, which I don't think it will

477
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: happen with Marcel you want, I mean sure you'll take

478
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Speaker 1: him back. Um, those two guys you would fill those

479
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: are two starters. And UM, I think it's gonna be

480
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: interesting with Clays especially, and because plays is going to

481
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to decide he is one or three choices.

482
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: Is he's just done playing, he's tired of playing? Hang

483
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: them up? I don't think that's the case. That's not

484
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: the sense I get from him, or is it gonna be.

485
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: I'll take I'm making this number up eight million dollars

486
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: to come play because of the legacy and what I've

487
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: done in Jacksonville and to help try to propel this

488
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Speaker 1: team back to the playoffs and make a run. Or

489
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: do I take eight million dollars somewhere else that is

490
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: viewed or at least by the estimation of myself, my agent,

491
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: and the rest of the NFL is further along in

492
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: the pursuit of winning a Lombardi Trophy, and I'm gonna

493
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: go there. I mean, that's I think how the decision

494
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: process is gonna be made for Clay's Campbell, that's the

495
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: biggest one. He I don't know how you fill that

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Speaker 1: hole as far as a leadership splash plays, and especially

497
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Speaker 1: if he's playing thirty snaps. Um, I'm with you, Jeff,

498
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Speaker 1: I don't think a j was playing at a high

499
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: level for sure. You surely can't pay him thirteen fourteen,

500
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Speaker 1: fifteen million buck a year whatever it is at the

501
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: level he's playing corner right now. Back to the Darius thing.

502
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: Wasn't it around that time that he got hurt and

503
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: wasn't playing that the run defense really gave it up,

504
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: you know, the London game he was playing. He started

505
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panther game and they gave up you know,

506
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: three yard rushing whatever it was. That was one earlier year.

507
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: But then there was that string of games in a row,

508
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Speaker 1: that the five losses in a bunch of two hundred

509
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: yard games there where he wasn't there, right, I mean,

510
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: how much of an impact did he have on those games,

511
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, or not being well? How do you feel

512
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: that if he's not around? The honest answer there is

513
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: that Marcel was not playing great before he got injured.

514
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: That's that's reality. And would he have helped if he

515
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: had been available, Sure, would he have made the difference

516
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: and like completely turned in this defense around hundred eighty

517
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: degrees to where they didn't give up you know, two

518
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Speaker 1: hundred and some odd games or some odd yards a game. Now,

519
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's the case because he couldn't

520
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: help other guys missing gaps, you know. I mean, look,

521
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: Marcel Darius didn't have an impact on on where the

522
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: linebackers went on a misread, So does he help them

523
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: be better? I mean, yeah, he'd hold up two guys. Sure,

524
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: but uh, they got to go the right way on

525
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: a read sometimes, so it's not just him. I mean.

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00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: And and if you view it like that big mistake,

527
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: that's where you talk about overvalueing a player and that's

528
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: what you don't need to do. Let's come back speaking

529
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: of those linebackers, Well, we'll get the linebacker room sort

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Speaker 1: it out or try it's good's it's interesting now because

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00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: there's some free agents in that room too. Now, guys

532
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: that played that played a role for this defense this year.

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Speaker 1: The off season is upon us, so we're going through

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Speaker 1: position groups and the next one on deck is the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars linebackers. Miles Jackson a long term deal. But then

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Speaker 1: then what right? Leon Jacobs is a couple of years left.

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Speaker 1: I think on his rookie deal. You got him for

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Speaker 1: a couple more years. You got a bunch of guys

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Speaker 1: that are had enough to free agency. Yeah. Nay Good

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Speaker 1: is an unrestricted free agent at the end of the

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Speaker 1: league year. DJ Alexander the same. He's twenty eight years old.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Preston Brown didn't see any of him

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Speaker 1: this year. He will be unrestricted the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: Donald Payne, the inside linebacker, a restricted free agent. Austin

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Speaker 1: Calitro is an exclusive rights free agents. So I mean

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Speaker 1: essentially the restricted and the exclusive rights free agents, you're

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00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: gonna bring him back? And uh, then you gotta work

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Speaker 1: on a good who's a veteran guy. He can go

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Speaker 1: where he wants to. Would you want to bring him back?

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00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: I mean there's a possibility, yes, and uh. And then

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Speaker 1: the other one that that is in there, obviously Quincy Williams,

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Speaker 1: who is going to be in the second year of

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Speaker 1: a four year commitment that you're gonna have with him.

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Speaker 1: So and you need to try to find You need

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Speaker 1: to find a guy. I mean, you need to try

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Speaker 1: to find that guy that can that can lead a defense.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think Miles Jack should be moved

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Speaker 1: to the weak side and if you can find a

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Speaker 1: guy that can play Mike and run the ship, then

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Speaker 1: you try to do so. I think Miles, you know,

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Speaker 1: when Telvin was here, I think it was smart to

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Speaker 1: put Miles at the mic position because Telvin was so

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00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: slight that the weak side linebacker position, and there's a

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Speaker 1: reason why they call it week side. They're protected, more protected,

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Speaker 1: can be more athletic. Run better and that was perfect

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Speaker 1: for Telvin's which meant that Miles had to play the

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Speaker 1: other which was the MIC. And I think, in a

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Speaker 1: if if Myles Jack would number one, lose some weight

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Speaker 1: because I think he played heavy a little bit the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years and take advantage of what great

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Speaker 1: speed and athleticism that he has to play in space,

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00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: move in week side. Try to find you a guy

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Speaker 1: that can play in the middle, and they're not easy

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Speaker 1: to come by. I understand that. And uh, and then

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Speaker 1: Leon can still be more than adequate to play the

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Speaker 1: same position. And then Quincy Williams I think showed this

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Speaker 1: past year that he's got some great skill, but he's

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Speaker 1: a work in progress and it's gonna take some time

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Speaker 1: to develop him. And it is that time this year.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm I'm not counting on that as a

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Speaker 1: as a personnel guy, I'm gonna be actively searching for

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Speaker 1: somebody that can step into a role at the MIC.

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Speaker 1: I think this, I think this position group has major issues.

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Speaker 1: Major because listen to what you just said, Jeff, all

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Speaker 1: the questions you don't have one answer, you don't have

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Speaker 1: one thing you feel confident in and everything you just

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Speaker 1: have is that Leon Jacobs at SAM and that that's

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Speaker 1: a position that plays fifteen snaps the game, twenty snaps

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Speaker 1: the game. And and we're talking about in Gockway maybe

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Speaker 1: being there or someone, I mean, some combination or of

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Speaker 1: depending on how they play defense. But if you look

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Speaker 1: at the MIC and the WILL, I think there's so

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Speaker 1: many there's more questions and answers. There's everyone talking about

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Speaker 1: Miles needs to go to will. He's never even played

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Speaker 1: the dang position, and so that's gonna be new. He

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Speaker 1: Tight ends. I think you got a couple on offense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at tight end because the position group

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Speaker 1: tight end goes for a long time. And so, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: stop right there, I'm gonna ask you something about that

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Speaker 1: um tight end this year. Was there a starting caliber

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Speaker 1: tight end on this roster, either at a inline blocking

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Speaker 1: starting caliber guy at either of those positions, I mean

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Speaker 1: a backup in Dallas. Backup. No, I mean to answer

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Speaker 1: And you're getting I mean when we talk about this

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Speaker 1: it creates a lot of problems in this This organization

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Speaker 1: I mean the history at Lambeau, it would probably draw

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Speaker 1: They have a great spread. Ravens is close. I was

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Speaker 1: And as a fan, I'm assuming I don't have a

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Speaker 1: not going to freeze that. Yeah, yeah, but it's not

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Speaker 1: of the most dynamic players have ever played a quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: It's one single season. It's one of the great stories

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Speaker 1: And anybody saw the mystery of Lamar Jackson matchup. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be, It'll be. It's gonna be interesting. Now. Last

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Speaker 1: the Chargers shut them down completely. Um year two, he's

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Speaker 1: you Will Will deem Will demps In that Titans defensive

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Speaker 1: staff come up with a game plan the ut them down.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be glued to the TV Saturday and Sunday both.

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Speaker 1: Moron Show continues right now. Final moments of The Doug

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Speaker 1: Barone Show. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Loguman, Tony was Sli

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Speaker 1: glad you've joined us on this Thursday evening. It's the

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Speaker 1: off season, the beautiful day. Yes, so this weekend we

948
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Speaker 1: get divisional playoff games. Fun, it's nice. Then the coaches

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Speaker 1: will be back in the office, we were told. So

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Speaker 1: that's Monday. Yeah, yes, Monday, which is also a National

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Speaker 1: Championship Day. So football Saturday, football Sunday, and then football

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Speaker 1: Monday night. Who you like in the game championship l Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm going with the with the What you're going with

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Speaker 1: the Tigers? Yeah? Going conference? You're going with Clemson? Yeah? Okay, look,

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Speaker 1: I mean look, look, I mean Virginia gave mall they

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Speaker 1: could handle, and uh I'm sorry, I'm sorry I was,

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Speaker 1: but you know, they did the game all they can handle.

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Speaker 1: And look, if if they can beat Virginia, you know, fairly, well,

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Speaker 1: then I think they can handle L. S Uo. I'm

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Speaker 1: going with Joe Burrow and at Origin in the L.

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Speaker 1: S U Tigers or at or Geron. Yeah. I think

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Speaker 1: that might be one of the greatest interviews because they

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Speaker 1: him something and then he just totally tigers. He says

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Speaker 1: something else. Alright, it's great. So what do you think

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Speaker 1: about the color of the sky. And he starts going

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Speaker 1: on football team that man can recruit but always has

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Speaker 1: in the old days. And he's unique. Now, how about

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Speaker 1: the SEC West now coaches Mike Leach gets the Mississippi

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Speaker 1: State job today, Lane Kiffin is an old miss. There's

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Speaker 1: some guy at Arkan saw now some uh yeah at

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Speaker 1: or Ron's at l s U. What do you mean something,

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Speaker 1: I've never heard of him. That's some some guy Pitt

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Speaker 1: forget his name. Um, obviously, when I was on Nick

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Speaker 1: Saban at Orgeron, Jimbo Fisher at A and M. That's

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Speaker 1: quite a division of head coach personalities. That's where the

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Speaker 1: pay is. That's why they've attracted, right, that's the reality.

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Speaker 1: I mean, SEC of the SEC pays a lot of

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Speaker 1: they've attracted some of some of the great names. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that's the reality of it. You're saying people follow

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Speaker 1: the money. No, No, they don't do that. It's it's

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Speaker 1: a not at all Hey, Tony, I have a great weekend,

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Speaker 1: have a great call of the game. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: I'll be in the studio next Thursday. I see even

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Speaker 1: a right good, good good. Don't threaten us. That's Tony Boselli.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Logman. I'm j P. Shadrick. Will catch the

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Speaker 1: next time the Doug Brown Show on the Jaguars Radio

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