1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Good evening everyone, and welcome. It is the program that 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: keeps you up to date with your Houston Texans. We 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: talk about everything Texans. We talk about the football, the food, 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: the food. Yeah, sometimes why not tailgating and stuff like that. 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: It's the offseason. It's Mark Vandermer with you in the 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: Hunday Texans Radio studio for Texans All Access. Join tonight 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: because it's Thursday. Joint Tonight by John McLean from the 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle to general, General, how's it going? It's going great, Mark, 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: How are you doing very well? Because the preseason schedules out, 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: so I'm happy about that. I can't wait for the 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: regular seasons on the edge of my chair. The only 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: reason I'm interested to see what the road games are, Yeah, 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: because you want to know where you're traveling to Kansas 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: City and then of course go back to La Yep 15 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: and so that'll be fun. And then you know, I 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: saw I can't remember if it's you guys or six 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: ten doing a poll about which preseason game fans were 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: so excited about. Course Dallas blew them away, and I'm thinking, 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: you're not gonna see one stinking starter in that game. 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: But you know, my rationale for being excited about it. Anyway, 21 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: what it's Dallas and hang out a second. You don't 22 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: want to see Dallas come here in the preseason and 23 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: have the starters play at all, because last time that 24 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: happened was twenty ten, and in twenty ten, the Texans 25 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: beat the Cowboys soundly in the preseason lost to them 26 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: soundly in the regular season. So I don't care. I 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: think Game four is fine. Let the Cowboys come here, 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: you do whatever you do in Game four without the 29 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: starters playing, and then take them on in the regular 30 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: season here as well. Brandon Weedon's revenge on Jerry Jones 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: Take that, Jerry. The reason I'm excited about it because 32 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: it's the last preseason game and after that we'll be 33 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 1: getting ready for regular season and we'll find out next 34 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: week who the Texans open with, who the national televised 35 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: games are against. I'm interested in seeing how many games 36 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: they get on national TV, because here you have the 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: schedule makers. If they thought, Okay, John Watson's coming back, 38 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: he's going to play the whole year. Of course, you 39 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: put you on the maximum number of games. But if 40 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: they're thinking, okay, Watson's supposed to be healthy, but what 41 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: if he's not, what if he gets hurt again? Then 42 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: we got the Texans with Brandon Wheaton, Joe Webb, whoever quarterback. 43 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: It's not quite as attractive, but I don't be saying 44 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: the same thing about Carson went Southern Philadelphia is a 45 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion, has Nick Falls and of course as 46 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: a big NFC large market team. What I'm interested in 47 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: is seeing how many of those NFC East games will 48 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: be on national TV. I would love to see Texans 49 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys NBC Sunday Night. I think that would 50 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: be great. And then I'm guessing at least one of 51 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: those NFC East games will be on national TV. I 52 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: would think Jacksonville or Tennessee that one of those would 53 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: be as well. Broncos with Case Keenham, that's another possible 54 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: building maybe, and people love the Broncos or defense. Everybody 55 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: thinks they're gonna bounce back, but really, yeah, you know 56 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be Cleveland, and you know it's not 57 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: gonna be Indie, and I doubt it'd be Washington, and 58 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: so it's it's kind of narrowed. I can't remember. It 59 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: won't be the Jets. Yeah, just please Buffalo Buffalo is 60 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: coming off a playoff win, but that's not nearly as 61 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: attractive as the others. My schedule requests, all right, I 62 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: have a lot of them, but one of them is 63 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: Thursday night game at home. Please, because going on the 64 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: road for the Thursday night or even though you won 65 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: last year at Cleveland, I mean at Cincinnati, I don't 66 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: want to see a Thursday night came on the road. 67 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: I think that's brutal for the road team to travel 68 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: all day Wednesday because it basically takes all day, let's 69 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: be honest, even if it's a short, relatively short flight. 70 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: So I want to see it at home. So you 71 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: have that Wednesday to kind of get ready in the 72 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: facility and then you play Thursday night. Not ideal, but 73 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: much better than being the traveling team. I know it's 74 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: not possible, but it would be nice if the team 75 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: was off on the Sunday before the Thursday game. Yep, 76 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: that was their open date. You'd need double buys to 77 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: get that done, you would. I think at some point 78 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: that's gonna come. I don't know whether it comes before 79 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: the eighteen game schedule, but it's going to come, and well, 80 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: you could do it and have an eighteen weeks schedule, 81 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: so you might have sixteen games, but you have eighteen weeks, 82 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: so you have eighteen weeks of national games. And that's 83 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: really what the networks want. You know, they'll have fewer 84 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: teams playing each weekend, but do the double buys increase 85 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: the length of the season. That way, everybody's happy. I 86 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: think everybody. I like it. I think that's a great 87 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: way to do it. And teams playing on Thursday night 88 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: couldn't complain because of all the time they get off 89 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: before and after right, and teams, teams would relish playing 90 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: on Thursday night as opposed to the way it is. Yeah, 91 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure the players, the coaches, everybody would love it. 92 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: The organizations, I mean, top to bottom, you'd love it. 93 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: And the league would have to love it anyway, do 94 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: you know, of course you will, But I didn't. I 95 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: did it think on our new digital destination, Houston Chronicle 96 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: dot com slash tick tx N, where you can get 97 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: all these things we're writing that you can't getting the 98 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: Chronicle or oncron dot com. And I turned in one 99 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: Thursday morning on Bill O'Brien talking about calling the plays 100 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: and you know, reevaluating every year as a coach, and 101 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: so of course Bill never considered giving up play calling. 102 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: Why would he considering what happened with Watson? So do 103 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: you know through the Seattle game, Watson's last game, y'all 104 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: average more touchdowns and game than any team in the 105 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: league three point seven one. You were averaging more touchdowns, 106 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: You were third in rushing, tenth in offense, sixteenth and passing. 107 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: And of course Watson had nineteen touchdown passes, more than 108 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: any player in NFL history in his first seven games 109 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: and he didn't play for half. So why would O'Brien 110 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: want to walk away from that when right now you 111 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: know he's in there rubbing his hands together, like what 112 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: else can we cook up with Watson? It's going to 113 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: be so much fun to see what they can do. 114 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: And he was talking about he relies on Mike Devlin, 115 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: Tim Kelly and others to help him with a game plan, 116 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: and of course he calls the plays. But to think 117 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: that y'all were leading the league in touchdowns when Watson 118 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: was playing, is it just surprised me. And also, remember 119 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: you were only giving up two point four a Saxon game, 120 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: and we weren't complaining about the offensive line and Watson 121 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: goes out. Obviously all the receivers tight ends too. But 122 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: the offense just nosed head a nose dive into oblivion 123 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: and it's going to be so much more fun. And 124 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: to think about that Cowboy game. That's it. Ten days, 125 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: get ready for the opener? The key is is it 126 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: here or is it on the road? The opener? Yeah, well, 127 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: don't you usually play here? Usually here? They've opened here 128 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: so many times twenty thirteen with the last time they 129 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: opened on the road. But Week two there's a Beyonce 130 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: concert here, so I'm not sure if you'd put the 131 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: team on the road for the first and second week 132 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: of the season. Good point, so you know, and I 133 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe they could play a Thursday night Week two, 134 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: or a Thursday night or a Monday night Week one. 135 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if that would fit in to the 136 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: way the schedule shakes out, the way the building needs 137 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: to be put together. But we'll see. Do you think 138 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: it's better to play when people are healthy early in 139 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: the year? Play the Cowboys early, because, let's be honest, 140 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: the AFC South is much more important, But this is 141 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. It's in Houston, with all our Obnoxi's fans 142 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: will be at the game. Yeah, I almost wish it 143 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: would be in the first month of the season when 144 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: teams are fresh and healthy, instead of waiting near the 145 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: end of the season. You know we're neither teams at 146 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: a disadvantage. Would you rather see it early, late or 147 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: in the middle. I'd rather see that one early to middle. 148 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna get divisional games late because that's just the 149 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: way the schedule shapes up these days. I'll say this 150 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: in another schedule request. Let's not have three divisional road 151 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: games at the end of the year. Now, last year 152 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: it didn't matter becas the season with a wash it 153 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: four and twelve. But I looked at that and I thought, man, 154 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: this is brutal when you have to go on the 155 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: road three times in December in your division. Now you 156 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: could say the flip side is, well, you get three 157 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: divisional road games, I mean home games to start out 158 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: your divisional slate. But you know, let's have more balance, 159 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 1: and let's have the Indie trip take place earlier rather 160 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: than later, not the regular December bowl game that it's become. 161 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: I want to see Indie here late. Remember how Jacksonville 162 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: used to be the nationally televised game. Now, I think 163 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: there would be with a lot of justification. Is there 164 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: another team with a record is bad or worse than 165 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: the Texans, they'll get more national television appearance. That's a 166 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: great question. I don't think there's any doubt the Texans 167 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: will get more than people think. Tell you when we 168 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: were based on the record in LA and after the game, 169 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: we're standing around out in the tunnel outside the dressing rooms, 170 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: and I think it was Kevin him off from the RAMS. 171 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: I mentioned about the crowd only fifty thousand, and he said, 172 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: I think it was Kevin said, if Watson had played 173 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: with that ninety thousand. I said, really, I can't believe. 174 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: He was talking about how much attention Watson had gotten 175 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: in the media and social media in the LA area. 176 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: And you know what, that's the way it was all 177 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: over the country. I know it's this way with you, 178 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: and it's this way with me. If I had a dollar, 179 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: if we were at the league meetings in Orlando, for 180 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: everybody asked me about Watson first question. Every time I 181 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: do a talk show that I weekly or somebody calls me, 182 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: it's all about Watson. People are so excited to see 183 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: him and everything hinges so much on him, and that's 184 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: the way it was at Clemson where he was the man. 185 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: And I can't wait. I can't wait to seem at 186 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: training camp, can't wait to seem an off season program. 187 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: Although the first two weeks are just conditioning, but it's 188 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: when when we get around to coming over here for 189 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: the OTAs and the many amp and that's what it's 190 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: going to be really exciting to see what he can do. 191 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: But he might not do everything, John, he's not. Bill 192 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: already said he's not doing eleven eleven. They'll keep him 193 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: on some of the lesser and keys, let him work 194 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: with timing with his receivers, and continue to rehab on 195 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: his knee. But here's the thing. If they're going to 196 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: quote change the offense, right, is Joe Webb getting those 197 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: reps is weed and get look, I know, but they 198 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: still they're gonna run all that Watson stuff right, all 199 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: those Watson flips, saw the jet sweeps, the fake and 200 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: Joe right. But they need to practice that and I 201 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: think that an OTAs, that's a good time of year 202 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: to do that, obviously, because there's a great deal of 203 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: installation going on. So is it Webb getting those reps 204 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: because you need to simulate Watson more. Or does Weedon 205 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: get him? Or is there another quarterback? Did they draft 206 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: a quarterback? Did they sign another quarterback somewhere off the street. 207 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do, but I would 208 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: not be surprised if another quarterback is on his way 209 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: here at some point. I don't remember Tom Savage doing 210 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: those things. It was just Watson. They didn't use it 211 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: anymore when Watson went down, because, as O'Brien says, you've 212 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: got you. You have your playbook which has everything in 213 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: it for a pocket passer, for a mobile passer, for 214 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: a runner, for a statue. You have it all. And 215 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: then in the game plan you reducing to the quarterback 216 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: that you have, knowing though that the backup could have 217 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: to play. And this thing about changing the offense, as 218 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: I tell people, Bill O'Brien is not a moron. He's 219 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: not gonna change something that average the most touchdowns in 220 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: the league. That add a quarterback throw nineteen touchdowns passes. 221 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: They're gonna add wrinkles, They're gonna they're not They may 222 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: change the way they call that fake in the backfield. 223 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: They may add more things like that. They're not like 224 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: changing the offense. Now. I asked me, what do you okay, 225 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: what does it mean? Because they already played multiple running backs, 226 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: multiple tight ends, multiple receivers, they have the wildcat. They 227 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: don't play the wishbone or the year, you know, changing 228 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: the offense. People took that literally and that's not what 229 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: he meant. John back to the Rams thing, because you 230 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: brought up the crowd expectation had Watson played in that game. 231 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: But you're there week three of the preseason and that's 232 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: the week that the starters play the most usually, so 233 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: maybe Watson plays a half. That might be a nice 234 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: little draw in LA. I think a lot of traveling 235 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: Texans are gonna go to that Week three game at 236 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: the Rams, and I think as far as preseason context goes, 237 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good spot to have one of these games. 238 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: After the West Coast trips last year, there's not any 239 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: in regular season far. There's Texans get West as Denver, 240 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: so I would imagine a lot of people go to La. 241 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's August, it's cool weather, get away 242 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: from the weather here. And I still couldn't believe how 243 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: few people were at that game. I'm guessing, and one 244 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: of the reasons the Rams have done everything they've done 245 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: with trades and free agent signings is they're trying to 246 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: affect attendance. They're trying to get generate interests towards sales 247 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: of things at their new stadium. Everything they've done was 248 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: a golden mine is to win and sell more because 249 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: last year they did not sell well, even though they 250 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: were of the most exciting and successful teams in the league. 251 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: I think going to that game, seeing that stadium, and 252 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: I talked about it last night a little bit, it 253 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: is a dump, but oh yeah, it's a historic dump 254 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: and at some point it's going down. So you might 255 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: have Candlestick Park. Yeah, well, Candlestick Park was different, though. 256 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: I gotta put the Coliseum in another category. Candlestick Park 257 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: was a real dump. This might be a dump, but 258 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: it's got some good history there. Now, Candlestick you had 259 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: the Catch, I get that, and you had the Giant Yeah, 260 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: the Earthquake World Series. You didn't have Super Bowl Candlestick Park, 261 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: but you did have the Coliseum team that won Super Rise. 262 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: You had the Colisseum hosting Super Bowls. Usc all the 263 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: history there. To me, it's a little bit more like 264 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: the Orange Bowl was, which was also a dump very 265 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: late in its career, back in its career, in its existence. 266 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: Other stadiums that are sort of like the Texas Stadium. 267 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: Not quite like that in terms of neutral site games, 268 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: but a lot of historic Cowboy games have taken place there. 269 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: Not a good facility, but sometimes you want to look 270 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: at these buildings before they take a dive. Is USC 271 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: staying at the college Sam? Are going to the New States? 272 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that. I think they're 273 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: staying in a college Sam. And at some point, I 274 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: know they say they've upgraded, but I've been going there 275 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: since eight and I don't see it's any difference. The 276 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: seats are all rusty. I mean, we can't even go 277 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: into dressing rooms. Why don't the media? Why don't they 278 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: have nicer dressing rooms? How much could that? It's the money, 279 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: the money, the money. It's California. They can't build anything. 280 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: That's true. All right, The General is going to stay 281 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: with us. We're gonna talk about the Texans offensive line, 282 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: what is going on there, what's the projection there, and 283 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of around the league stuff. The General 284 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: says Denver is a bounce back team. I might disagree. 285 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: Let's dive into that among other things on Texans All Access. 286 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: Continuing on the program with the General John McLean joining 287 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: us here in the Hunday Texans Radio studio, Mark Vanderman 288 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: with you. It's Texans All Access and let's get to 289 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: the Texans offensive line of just a moment here, General, 290 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned Denver being a bounceback team next year, you 291 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: really think so, huh? They're a trendy bounce back pick 292 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: because they have all that talent on defense. But they've 293 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: lost a lot of guys too. They have. But I'm 294 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: looking at the division this time last year, I would 295 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: have said it had been the toughest division in football. 296 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: You have the division champion with a new quarterback, a 297 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: division champion that's made a lot of moves in personnel, right, 298 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: including Marcus Peters. Then you have the Chargers and you 299 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: know they don't have a home field advantage, but they 300 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: got Philip Rivers and a good pass rush. You have Oakland. 301 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything John Gruden's done so far that 302 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: where I go, Wow, that's impressive. As there's the Broncos, 303 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: and I think if Case picks up where he left 304 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: off from Minnesota. He's gonna be great for him. They 305 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: do have a defense, They've worked to build their offensive line. 306 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak is much more involved now in personnel than 307 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: he was before. He was kind of a consultant scout 308 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: and now he's full time job. And like they listened 309 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: to Gary, right, I remember, I'd go back to six. 310 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak's first draft. It was Charlie Cashley's last castle. 311 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: He said it was the most fun he'd ever had 312 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: working on a draft with a head coach, and how 313 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: knowledgeable Kubik was and how much he studied it top 314 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: to bottom. And I asked about Joe Gibbs and he said, well, 315 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: Joe cared about the first round, and so Kubiak's back 316 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: up there in the middle of everything. I think that's 317 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: going to be a good effect on them. So right now, 318 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: why not the Broncos. That's interesting that casually said that 319 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: in the class of six here is one of the 320 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: best Texans drafts. I mean, arguably the best. So it 321 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: says something about his skills, say something else. Mark rick 322 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: Smith's last draft with Deshaun Watson, Zach Cunningham played really 323 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: well and was playing and better at the end of 324 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 1: the year instead of hitting the rookie wall. Deonta Foreman 325 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: had scored two touchdowns at his best game when he 326 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: got hurt. Julian Davenport is going to be the left 327 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: tackle for now. And who was fifth Watkins? Carlos Watkins 328 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: because of injuries, got a lot of playing time. They're 329 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: looking they like him to see what he can do 330 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: going into his second season. Dresden decup, same thing. Needs 331 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: to make a lot of improvement going into the second season. 332 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: But based on right now, we're talking about, you know, 333 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: four starters and first four picks, and it's a different 334 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: regime doing it. Actually, Watkins fourth round draft choice because 335 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: they had the two picks. Let's talk about for a 336 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: moment here, John the offensive line, because I promised that, 337 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: and you mentioned Davenport, and if they play this weekend, 338 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: Davenports and the left tackle, I guess the question is 339 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: does he hang out of the job. You know, he's 340 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: gonna go into the offseason program as the left tackle 341 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: of this team. The draft hasn't taken place yet. You 342 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: mentioned it a bit last week. Hey, you never know, 343 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: Charles Spencer, that was a great example you brought up 344 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: on that class of oz six, a guy who was 345 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: supposed to be a starter for a decade but clearly 346 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: got hurt very early in his career. What about Davenport's abilities. 347 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: Davenport if the season started now, I'd be Davenport Chantrell Henderson. 348 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: Since Derek Newton's gone now and the swing tackle is 349 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: is I'm sure that first pick in the third round 350 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: is gonna be left tackle. It's a really good draft 351 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: for tackles in that area. In my latest mock draft, 352 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: I turned in again Brian O'Neill from Pitt, who I've 353 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: now had three times. I think, don't you have to 354 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: come off a player and pick somebody? Now, I've done 355 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: nine of them so that i've had. It's hard to 356 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: do that. I've had six others, and so i've done 357 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: two when you get around doing that many, and I 358 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: still got a two or three more to do. I've 359 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: searched in that group of guys supposed to go middle 360 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: to end a second round through the fourth, and I've 361 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: moved him around guys that the scouting reports can play left. 362 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: I say that guy had to play the right, and 363 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: he beat out Chantrelle Henderson, and or if he won 364 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: the left tackle job, maybe Davenport's gonna go to the 365 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: right side, and Henderson would be the swing tackle. You 366 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: have a situation where the last two years your tackles 367 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: will have started a total of five games, one for 368 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: Henderson and four for Davenport, including two at left tackle 369 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: at the end, and whatever he did at the end, 370 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 1: they liked, The coaches liked it. It's like a lightbulb 371 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: went off and all of a sudden, I'm not this big, 372 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: talented guy with great feet and a humongous wingspan of 373 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: eighty seven and a half inches six seven three eighteen 374 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: who comes from buck. Now, now I can handle. I 375 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: can handle with anybody. And I think that's something that 376 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: gave them confidence in him. And I had people tell 377 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: me from Kansas City they thought Jeff Allen's best position 378 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: was right tackle, and but I don't think he's ever 379 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: He played left because of a jam last year. You know, 380 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: it's still unbelievable to me. Texans started five left tackles 381 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: in one season. Five That's crazy. And before when Dwayne 382 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: Brown was healthy, you know, it was Dwayne for years. 383 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: They need to get that position solidified again, whether it's 384 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: Davenport or third round pick. But that's still tackle is 385 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: still to me the biggest need on the team and 386 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: tight ends right behind it. It's sad about Derek Newton 387 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: has worked so hard to get back that you're not 388 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: gonna get to see him at a Texans uniform. Yeah, Derek. 389 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Wilson had that story Thursday that he had been 390 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: cut and he had worked really hard, and so, you know, 391 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: you hope Derek, now that he has a lot of 392 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: time to find another team, is able to do that. 393 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be now. I think he's gonna 394 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: have to get to a point where he can get 395 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: on the field and do the workouts that teams want 396 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: to see. So he would have to be one hundred percent. 397 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: But good luck to Derek Newton, a great kid, was 398 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: really good here until he suffered two actured quadracepts in 399 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: each leg and had surgery and had playsonce Denver in 400 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. You know, it was such a good success story, 401 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: and it was one of those stories where a player 402 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: is maligned to a certain degree by the local media 403 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: and then turns into a really good player and he 404 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: gets another contract and he performs well, and then you 405 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: have the Century start every game for four and a 406 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: half years until he got hurt, just like Charles Spencer, 407 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: who I heard was still living here out in Katie. 408 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: So that would be the Texans need to come up 409 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: with a really good tackle in the third round. He 410 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: can be done. It's done all the time, and the 411 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: other others. This week I had, let's see, a tackle, 412 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: a tight end, and a safety. Last week I had 413 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: a tackle and a safety and a defensive end. You know, 414 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: Texans still need another defensive end. They need a speed 415 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: rusher from the outside and passing situations, and you know 416 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna get another corner because you can never have 417 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: too many. You can never have too many. And you 418 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: know they're they're gonna go for that for sure. What 419 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: about tight end? Though I took Hayden Hurst in my 420 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: VANDERMKH he was there in the third round. Did you 421 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: have him going with the first pick in the third round? 422 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: I actually had him in the sing of third round, 423 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: but I saw I saw numerous sights had him dropping 424 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: to the third round, so I figured out maybe he 425 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: does slip down. Well, if he did, you know former 426 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: baseball player, I have him going in the first round 427 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: in Carolina because Greg Olsen, everybody thinks gone after this 428 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: year the broadcast booth. But that was weird last year 429 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: when he ended up doing a game while Hurst while 430 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: he was playing. While he was playing, every a lot 431 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: of complaints about the opponent. Who was I think it 432 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: was was a Minnesota I can't remember, but they didn't 433 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: like it at all. I don't blame him him coming 434 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: into production meetings asking questions of a team that he 435 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: could go right back to his teammates. I don't know 436 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: how they worked that out, but you know what those questions. 437 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: I've been in those production meetings that you're not gonna 438 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: get anything that you can't get from tape. Seriously, not 439 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: too much. Anyway. They could easily he edits their comments 440 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: and he can do a good job on the broadcast. 441 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: They're not like giving you here's his tendency when he 442 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: puts his hand down. I mean, they're not giving you 443 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: that stuff. Well, I've never been in one of those meetings. 444 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: That will never get in one of those meetings tight ends. Uh, 445 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: they got you gotta have a blocker. And I'm gonna 446 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: have a story next week with Brian Gaine talking about 447 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: I did this last week about tackles, the difference in 448 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: scouting them today as opposed to ten years ago, because 449 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: so many colleges are playing with tackles in two point 450 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: stances as to the three like the NFL, and so 451 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: you have to look for the intent. You have to 452 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: look for the tangibles. You know, height, weight, speed and length, 453 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: all the usuals. But if he's a receiver and didn't 454 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: have to block much, you try to find out is 455 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: he going to be a willing blocker? Does he have 456 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: what it takes toughness of course to become a good blocker, 457 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: or do you end up having to take two to 458 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: kill one need? And then so that's fascinating to me. 459 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: And I looked. I took in Thomas from Indiana. Who's bigger, right, 460 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: Shultz is Damon Schultz from Stanford. I did last week. 461 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: He's the best, I think, the best blocker. And because 462 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: you got Ryan Griffin, who can catch Steven Anderson can 463 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: catch Steven's not really a tight end. If he's gonna 464 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: be a tight end, you have to bring in alignment 465 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: so that this guy is gonna have to be at 466 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: least in the two fifties with a chance to get bigger, 467 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: and he's gonna have to look like Fedora with sixty five, 468 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: two sixty five, and he's gonna have to block, and 469 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: then if he has not had to catch much, doesn't 470 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: have what it takes to catch. A lot of times 471 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: it's because of the offense. It's not because the player 472 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: can't block that he's lined up in the slot. It's 473 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: the system and the fact that he isn't good He 474 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: does have good hands. Yeah, you have to see him 475 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: do it sometimes. You're right, he might be playing in 476 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: a system that doesn't require as much physicality as you 477 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: would here, and you imagine he's got to look like 478 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: Fedora ws. It's tough to look like a door with 479 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy was a specimen. He really was. 480 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: They don't grow on trees, the CJ fedor WITHS types. 481 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: So we'll see what they can cook up here in 482 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: the draft. Okay, who are your other two pigs besides 483 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: haydon nursed all right in the third round in the 484 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: latest one. In the latest vandermach I took Orlando Brown 485 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: because he drops to the third round in my second one. 486 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: Since he dropped out, you think he really does drop 487 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: that far. I don't think so. I think it's gonna 488 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: be tough to see him there and if they do 489 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: see him there, I say, go ahead. He can't play 490 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: left tackle in the NFL. He can't do it well. 491 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: He can't move. And fact is he's yeah, movement doesn't 492 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: matter if you're playing left tackle. And Bell O'Brien said, 493 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: and I ran this this week about he thinks both 494 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: tackles now that are way they're played, are equally important. 495 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: Orlando Brown may be his biggest guard in the league. 496 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: You know, he golfs engulfs people. If you get into him, 497 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: he just swallows you up. But if he's got to 498 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: shovel his feet against a speed rusher, unless he can 499 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: get his hands on him, he's in trouble. And Mike 500 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: Mayock still has him rady to Hi despite all that 501 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: lack of somebody's taking up. Somebody's taking him because you 502 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: look at what he did in college, and I know 503 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: it's different, and I know the stance is sometimes different 504 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: and all of that. But guess it's funny because what 505 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: was my pick down the line here? Of all right? 506 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: My other third round pick is Shakim Griffin. I had 507 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: him early on. I'd love to see him get him 508 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: and line him up at left outside linebacker and passing situations. 509 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: Next to what the bot snaps? I get that quarterback? 510 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 1: You think he's there in the third round? Yes, all right, 511 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: So he doesn't have a left hand. Now here's one 512 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: of the reasons why I took him, besides being a 513 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: great football player. No one's gonna complain. No one's gonna 514 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: complain when he's on the team. Oh you're complaining? What 515 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: about the guy with no left hand? He's not complaining, 516 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: So why are you complaining? Kind Of like when David 517 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: Quisenberry was working out every day, what could you do? 518 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: You see David and how hard he worked and all 519 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: the time he put in out. Can anybody else complain? 520 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: Griffin is exactly what you guys need. Plusy be real 521 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: good on coverage. You got in passing situations, clowney it 522 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: right end with Merciless just inside or outside, that's a 523 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: pretty good duo. On the left side. You got what Well, 524 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: who's gonna be just inside or outside him? You need somebody, 525 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if he's two twenty five or two thirty, 526 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: as long as he is fast and quick, and in 527 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: Griffin's case, if he's rushing out there in space. What 528 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: they worry about is when a blocker gets into him. 529 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: How can he use his hand to shed now watching 530 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: him catch balls, if you didn't know, if you weren't 531 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: looking at his left hand not being there, you wouldn't know. 532 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: He'll drop whenever once in a while, but wide receivers 533 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: drop him every once in a while. I think he'd 534 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: be a great inspiration and selfishly a great story. He's 535 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: a great talker. And thinking how popular he's going to 536 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: be in the NFL. Think about how the NFL is 537 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: going to be putting him in ads. He'll be taking 538 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: him to military bases. Whoever gets him. If I'm Cleveland 539 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: and I have all those extra picks in the second round, 540 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: take them? Why not take him? Yeah? But guess what 541 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: Cleveland's gonna do trade and if the Texans want to 542 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: move into the second round, guess what. Cleveland is a 543 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: pretty good business partner. Again. Even though both gms who 544 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: orchestrated the Watson deal are out, it could happen again, 545 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: because if the Texans are gonna move up into the 546 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: second round, it's gonna be with one of those teams 547 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: that has multiple second round picks, you would think. Brian 548 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: Gaines said, if somebody is selling, meaning at the lower 549 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: half of the second round, and it's something they could 550 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: live with, like say two threes and it's some player 551 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: they've targeted, then sure they're gonna do it. And or 552 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: he also said, if you trade one of those threes 553 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: for and moved down from a certain pick, maybe it's 554 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: the second one in the third round, and you get 555 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: another one, you know right now, you get leslie what 556 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: three sixes, got eight overall, and get another pick were 557 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: like in the fourth round or fifth round like that, 558 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: and give up one of your threes for two fours. 559 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: And that's impossible. And the fact is it's Brian's first 560 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: it's his first season as general manager where he is 561 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: the man. So we don't have an m We don't 562 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: have anything for him to where we can look and say, aha, 563 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: this time next year we will. If he trades into 564 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: the second round or he trades out of the third round, 565 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: then next year will know he's not averse to trades. 566 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: And I don't think he will do anything shocking. I 567 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: still can't believe last year that Rick Smith, for the 568 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: only time in his career as general manager, traded up 569 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: in the first round. But I'm glad he did. He 570 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: waited till the greatest time in franchise history to do it. Now, 571 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: we'll see what kind of GM Brian is based on. 572 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be a risk taker 573 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: because right now you don't need to be a risk taker. Well, 574 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: we'll see, and it's gonna be tough to evaluate these 575 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: draft picks until a year or so. All right, that 576 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: was the general's fault. It wasn't some weird beeper going 577 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: off in your car. So while he gets that, let's 578 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: take this break. When we return, we'll discuss Andrew Luck. 579 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: What is up with him? I mean, how are we 580 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: supposed to read this now? And some other things going 581 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: on around the National Football League and with your Texans 582 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: here on Texans All Access. It's the program keeping you 583 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: up to date on your Houston Texans Texans All Access 584 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: Mark Fanjamer with John McLean from the Houston Chronicle here 585 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: from the Hyundai Texans Radio studio. Okay, this week, Andrew 586 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: Luck said he's throwing a football, but not an NFL football, John, 587 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: what is going on? I mean, when is Andrew Luck 588 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: going to throw a football? It's almost like, no, we're 589 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: holding it. We're keeping it sacred, We're keeping it secure. 590 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: He can't throw an actual football yet. It's a long 591 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: process here. If I was a Colts fan, which I'm 592 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: clearly not, I would be totally frustrated. And you know, 593 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: knowing Andrew a little bit, and you know him better 594 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: than I do. We both know his dad. I mean, 595 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: it's terrible to see what he's going through as a 596 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: professional athlete, as a Texan. It's okay, he can wait 597 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: a little longer, but what an ordeal for him to 598 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: try to get back on the field. And he's been 599 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: working out in California with Tom House and his group. 600 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: And Andrew admitted when they reported the lost season conditioning 601 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: program last week, if you're new coaching, do it a 602 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: week early. He talked about how he thinks he tried 603 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: to rush it last year and that hurt him. But 604 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: until they see him throwing every throw that he used 605 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: to make with the same velocity accuracy, they're gonna be worried. 606 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: He's hoping he'll be there for the start of training camp, 607 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: and everybody should hope that he does, because I don't 608 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: care that he's going to he is in Texans. You know, 609 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: Texans can't beat Jacobe Brisette, then beat Andrew Luck and 610 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: I think that that should be that that you hope, 611 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: but nobody knows for sure. Nobody's gonna know even if 612 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: he comes back, Mark in one hundred. You know how 613 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: he takes a beating. Before last season, I saw a thing. 614 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: I guess it was pro football focused that he'd been 615 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: hit more the three previous seasons. Not sacked, but hit more, 616 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: and I don't know where it ranked in sacks. Thin 617 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: quarterback in the league, and a lot of that say 618 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: Andrew's fault because of the rambunctions way he plays. He 619 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: did that in high school at Stratford. So I hope 620 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: he comes back, but right now nobody knows. I wonder 621 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: when they pick in the first round, would they be 622 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: tempted and take a quarterback up there? Colts, I think 623 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: you have to. The draft is in two weeks, John, 624 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: it's two weeks from tonight. Are you gonna and Andrew 625 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: Lux not throwing an NFL football yet? Are you putting 626 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: your eggs in that basket? Are you going okay with 627 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette? Or if you're okay with Jacoby Brissette, maybe 628 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: they are, because I think he's pretty good, but I 629 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,959 Speaker 1: don't know how much better he's going to get they 630 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: have to evaluate that, but I think you almost have 631 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: to take a quarterback. Nobody has in any mock draft 632 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: I've seen as the Colts taking a quarterback, and if 633 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: they do, that means they're really not confident. And if 634 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: they were, wouldn't they have stated three instead of going 635 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: down to six because I've got four going in the 636 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: top five, So to me, the only one left for 637 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: them would be Lamar Jackson unless they want to take 638 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolf, and neither Jackson or Rudolf is worth that 639 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: high of a pick. So I don't think they will 640 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: unless there was surprised, say the Giants took Barkeley and 641 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: so sat Baker Mayfield was there and they thought he 642 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be or maybe Josh Rosen or Alan, then 643 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: they might go, you know, we didn't know he's gonna 644 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: be here, we gotta take it. I don't think they will, 645 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: you know. I think for the Texans in my most 646 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: recent mock draft, it'll be Oncrown dot Com tomorrow. I 647 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:44,959 Speaker 1: haven't taken, say, Quon Barkley, because I have the Brown's 648 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: taking Bradley Chubb this week instead of Barkley. Although if 649 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm them and I used my top pick last year 650 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: on Miles Garrett. You don't need to invest in two 651 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: ends that high two years in a row where Barkley 652 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: Chubbs Chubb is not gonna help the number one pick. 653 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: Barkley could help the number one pick. And somebody said 654 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: at the owner's meetings, and I don't buy into this. 655 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: As soon as you draft a running back, his value 656 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: starts to go down. I don't think his value starts 657 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: to go down for four or five years. And know 658 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: who's looking beyond four or five years in the NFL day, 659 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: Nobody well looking for Natt and Elliott. I mean, these 660 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: guys are phenomenal. Yes, And do you think with Leveon 661 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: Bell back as a franchise packer and unhappy with his contract, 662 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: that the Steelers when they pick at the bottom of 663 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 1: the first round. I had him take Derek Geiss one time. 664 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: Now I've gone back to an inside linebacker. But do 665 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: you think they might draft to back in the first round. No, 666 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: it's a deep draft for backs. You can get them 667 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: in the first three. But would they draft to back. 668 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: I think they have other needs to be ready in 669 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 1: case Bell's gone after this season. I think linebacker would 670 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: be more likely John, Mike and Seth brought this up. 671 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty interesting. What if the Texans 672 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: did have the fourth pick this year, you know it, 673 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: Mike brought up, and they needed a quarterback? What would 674 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: they do? Because you're sweating it out there, you know, 675 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: with the teams in front of you, in their needs 676 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: and what they what you perceived they might do. But 677 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: let's just say they have Watson and they had the 678 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: fourth pick. Who would you take. You can't take an 679 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: offensive tackle up there because nobody's worth it, and so 680 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: if you they're not gonna take a tidy end up there, 681 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: I'd think you'd drake down for sure. Okay, And if 682 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: you had to take a player, what I would do 683 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: with the fourth pick? I'd take Sequon Barkley. Yeah, why not? 684 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you look pretty good as player in the draft. 685 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: You look pretty good at running back if you're healthy. 686 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: If you're the Texans, you have Lamar Miller and you 687 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: have Deonta Foreman if assuming he comes back healthy. That's 688 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: a pretty good one two punch right there. And you 689 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: can talk about whoever is one and whoever is two, 690 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: But I'm fine with either one. But Barkley might be 691 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 1: too good to pass up right there? Would you take 692 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: the second best prospect, guard Quentin Nelson? I don't know. 693 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: I just started, so I would trade down, try to 694 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: get other pigs so I could make sure and get 695 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: my left tackle somewhere, either Connor Williams, Mike mcclenchey, or 696 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: one in the second round like Terrell Crosby or Martinez Rankins. 697 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: What if you need a quarterback, m well, you would have. 698 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: You're not guaranteed the first three unless you trade up. 699 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,959 Speaker 1: The fourth one probably is going to be Mayfield based 700 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: on what everybody thinks it'd be you. What did you 701 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: think of Baker Mayfield? If you all right, so you're 702 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: a team, then he's a quarterback. You have Mayfield and 703 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: Jackson there in the cross, Harris, who are you taking? 704 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: I take Mayfield. He's more ready to play. You know, 705 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: if you look at Jackson and Mayfield were by far 706 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: the most productive college players, much more than those other 707 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: three guys. They're being drafted on what they did in 708 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: their shorts and T shirts. But Baker Mayfield was a senior. 709 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: He's had more experienced he was at Tech than he 710 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: was at Oklahoma. I think I would take Mayfield. But 711 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: if I'm the Texans right now, I have that fourth 712 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: pick and Watson. I'm taking Sequan. Do you imagine him 713 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: and Watson in the same backfield. Oh my gosh. I 714 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 1: mean Watson with all that sleight of hand stuff, the wizard. 715 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: He needs a nickname. No, he doesn't. We don't have 716 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: to do that right now. Wizard Watson, I don't know. 717 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 1: He's because he's a magician, he's a wizard. He's something 718 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: I've got to think of something, you know. He challenges 719 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: me as a play by play man because all those 720 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: fakes on the jet sweeps and you know, if you 721 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: flip the ball forward one foot to Ellington coming across 722 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: and he runs around the left side for ten yards, 723 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: that's a pass, even though it looks like a run. 724 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: So you call it just a flip or whatever, you 725 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean. In the heat of the moment, 726 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it's a forward pass to Ellington 727 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 1: because that paints an incorrect picture mentally of what is 728 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: going on on the field. So for me as a 729 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: play by play man, Watson is a challenge. You know, 730 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: all that fake stuff, you gotta call that h and 731 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: it's just fun. And all the touchdowns you know, you 732 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: want to be creative with those calls to it's a 733 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: luxury problem, really fake last fake right. You don't ever 734 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: say forward pass, You just say pass. Yeah, but you 735 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: don't want to call that a pass when it's just 736 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: a little shovel, you know, a flip a shove. Yeah, 737 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: I've always known it as a shovel. Here's one thing 738 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: play by play guys get wrong a lot a couple 739 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: of things. They call a reverse a reverse when it's 740 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 1: an end around, and they call a pitch a pitch 741 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: when it's really a toss. You know, if you go 742 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: two hands underhanded and you and you toss the ball 743 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: back to a running back, that's a toss. So, but 744 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: it's a pitch, is more of the traditional pitch like 745 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: Coach Boone and remember the Titans. You pitch it and 746 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: the ball's going end over end to the back. So 747 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: there are things like that. I got a good question 748 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: I can ask you because I always asked this on 749 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: the radio this week, If you could bring back one 750 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: Texan in history and put him on his team, who 751 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: would it be? Why? Just one? My gut, says Andrey Johnson, 752 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: That's what mine said. Because they don't ever receiver who 753 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: can stay healthy opposite DeAndre Hopkins. Andre would be great 754 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson and they could count on him every game. 755 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: John Lopez aid Arian Foster Aaron would be a great 756 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: one too. That's a very good one because he's a 757 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: great receiver, you know, and Bill O'Brien talked about that 758 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: from day one, how they would want to use them 759 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 1: as a receiver. And you saw the kind of season 760 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: he had when they were together that one year in 761 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. That won full year anyway, and it was 762 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: remarkable what Aaron was able to do that year. Now, 763 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: he worked hard for every yard, but still had a 764 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: lot of game left at that point. My other one 765 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: would be Dwayne Browns. And you wouldn't be worried about 766 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: left tackle. Yeah, I mean, that's that's not as fun 767 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 1: as some of the other positions. Well, left tackle also, 768 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: none of the line positions were an issue when Watson 769 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: was playing. What about defensively? You had to stick to 770 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. A player you could 771 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: bring back Aaron Glenn. I would bring back Aaron Glenn 772 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: and his prime you know what it may have been. 773 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: That was Lopez his second boys, and I immediately started 774 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: thinking about the need positions. I thought about Dante Robinson right, 775 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 1: Uh Ed Reid and his prime Glover Quinn would look 776 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: good on this team. And I don't know if you're 777 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: allowed to do that. I mean, I could bring back 778 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: Aman Green when he went to four Pro Bowls with 779 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: three Bay You know, No, I Glover Quinn would look 780 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,760 Speaker 1: good at safety he's still playing, and uh Dante at corner. 781 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: And would you take Aaron Glenn over Dante? Yes, okay, 782 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 1: I take Has Dante been to a Pro Bowl? Maybe one? 783 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Thought he was pretty good. He was, 784 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: and he had a lot of pies first start, How 785 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: about Mario playing opposite to j What about the KO 786 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: playing one of those inside positions next to Mcca? What 787 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 1: about two thousand and nine Brian Cushing? I'll take two 788 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: thousand and nine, But Brian was playing outside, not inside. Yeah, 789 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: but you put him anywhere on the field. I think 790 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: that because he was out. You're so tough, John, What 791 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 1: do you have going out of the chronicle. Let's see, 792 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: I have a thing that's out right now with Bill 793 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: O'Brien talking about the play calling and delegating and how 794 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: he's evolved as a play caller Aaron Wilson. I will 795 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,280 Speaker 1: have mock draft number, you know, twenty nine or something 796 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: that we'll be on the website Chrown dot com tomorrow. 797 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,720 Speaker 1: And please check out our new digital destination, Houston Chronicle 798 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 1: dot com slash t xs N to get a lot 799 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: of stories we're doing specifically for that site. And the 800 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: off season program begins Monday, and I believe we'll be 801 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: doing some interviews next week and so we'll be back 802 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: at it. So it's a really fun time of the 803 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: offseason and go Rockets and Astros. All right, sounds good. 804 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 1: That's the general John McClean from the Houston Chronicle that's 805 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: going to do it for the show tonight. Thank you 806 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: everyone for participating. Galt at Night is next. Have a 807 00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: great evening, Go Texans.