WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Football Activity

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<v Speaker 1>The following. He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot

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<v Speaker 1>Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Mick Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

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<v Speaker 1>the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Walls, and Nicky Spagnola. And it is eleven thirty

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<v Speaker 1>on a Thursday. And you know what that means. It's

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<v Speaker 1>time for another edition of mix Shots. It's an OTA,

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<v Speaker 1>the first Ota edition of mix Shots inside the STUBC

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<v Speaker 1>podcast studio. And ah, there's Everson's favorite song right there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Baby, that is bit there it is. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>victory Thursday here inside the st we're playing it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with it for old time, same football.

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<v Speaker 1>There are football players on a football field here at

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<v Speaker 1>the Start in Frisco, and we have all members of

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<v Speaker 1>mix Shots here right. So ya were here last week?

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<v Speaker 1>Last we were here last week? He was better watch

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<v Speaker 1>out because Chris Hall took your spot? And oh did

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<v Speaker 1>he really? I got I need to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>compliments for having Chris Hall on. He did? He welcome

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<v Speaker 1>and get compliments from about having Bill on or ever

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<v Speaker 1>I was here last time. So though that's like when

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<v Speaker 1>you bring somebody new it, right, they're used to the

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<v Speaker 1>old style. Okay, okay, I thought you so I'm only

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<v Speaker 1>pit be careful, so Chris, no, you're not because I

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<v Speaker 1>had to take your players. Okay. Yeah, so there's never

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<v Speaker 1>any danger, no, no, whatsoever. That's why Christians run with it,

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<v Speaker 1>so spags wouldn't have to talk too much. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to go back and listen to it. I

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of busy last week. Yeah, where were you?

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<v Speaker 1>I was in San Francisco, you were in town. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's um, we had to have you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little where's the last time you were in San

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<v Speaker 1>Francios Well two years ago? Okay, yeah, all right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't bring up the other times that you've been there.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh I went to the Super Bowl, come on, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah you did. I will go about Cowboys here. I

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<v Speaker 1>was telling the story. Uh you know, of course, the

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<v Speaker 1>Mavericks are playing the Warriors in the Western Conference Finals.

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<v Speaker 1>And the first time that I was in might have

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<v Speaker 1>been the first time ever in San Francisco was when

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys played the Niners in the NFC Championship Game.

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<v Speaker 1>Into the ninety two season, I spent a week out there,

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<v Speaker 1>uh previewing good time and in fact, Everson we went

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<v Speaker 1>to Dwight Clark's restaurant there in San Francisco as we

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<v Speaker 1>led up to it is still, in my opinion, the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest football game I've ever gone to. NFC title thing

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<v Speaker 1>in a NFC championship game in nineteen ninety two one,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, that's right, that's right. But he had an

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<v Speaker 1>NFC title game. Yeah, that's right. So anyway, did you

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<v Speaker 1>eat well? Uh? Actually know we were. We hit the

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<v Speaker 1>ground running and we never stopped running. I furty okay,

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<v Speaker 1>queen game. At the hotel we stayed at in downtown

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco, it was probably on Thursday morning. For breakfast,

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<v Speaker 1>I got an orange juice. Um what else did I get?

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<v Speaker 1>I got four things like a it was a uh

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of breakfast something I can't remember exactly you

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<v Speaker 1>spent let me guess you guess how much. That's my point.

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<v Speaker 1>I got an orange juice, water at the hotel, a

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<v Speaker 1>cup of coffee, and something to eat like a like

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<v Speaker 1>what it was was a fruit little thirty thirty at

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<v Speaker 1>least thirty. You didn't even get like a breakfast. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't even a break both it was no, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was thirty five dollars. Bro Yes, come on, man,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five dollars. The guy in front of me in line,

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<v Speaker 1>he got one of I oh my water was a

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen ounce water. Oh wow, yeah, you're being gleed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was an extra SI. It was five fifty. It

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<v Speaker 1>was five fifty. So the guy in front of me

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<v Speaker 1>had just finished a workout and he got the big

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<v Speaker 1>the big bottle of water. Okay, I guess it's thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two ounce. It was eight dollars and fifty says and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I'm sorry, I'm taking it back. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>get this. Just a matter of principle, I could drink

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<v Speaker 1>out the foss That's right, that's right. So anyway, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I was doing last night. Now, don't get me.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's go. Let's keep keep down this old man

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<v Speaker 1>path with going here. Uh went to DFW eight of

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<v Speaker 1>the bar. I had a just a beer and some

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<v Speaker 1>chicken fingers. Twenty seven bucks for beer and chicken fingers dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a few strips. Yeah, twenty say how much?

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty twenty seven? Come on, man, that's been every everything

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<v Speaker 1>that I ate there even at the game. I just

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<v Speaker 1>went to concession stand whatever, and it was thirty dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's my stater. When I turned my expense report,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's everything's thirty to thirty five dollars. So wow,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the big city. That's right, that's right, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get off my lawn. Meanwhile, here OTA's have

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<v Speaker 1>begun this week and it was an open session for

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<v Speaker 1>the media yesterday, and I know Mickey Spagnola was in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh look at that legal pad. It is full of

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<v Speaker 1>notes from observed yesterday during OTA's. Yes Uh, it was

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<v Speaker 1>our first chance to actually watch him practice. Thought we'd

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<v Speaker 1>be able to peek at him on Tuesday, but it

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<v Speaker 1>rained and they they were indoors, go indoors, and went

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<v Speaker 1>indoors again yesterday. Um, but yeah, it was good to

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<v Speaker 1>see a little football action. Um, although um, you know

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<v Speaker 1>they don't. I think everybody needs to understand anything you

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<v Speaker 1>read about whatever anybody did. Tristan Hill beating Tyler Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>No pads, okay, it's helmets, jurybody, calm down and shorts okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And when they were going team most of it was

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<v Speaker 1>half speed. I mean when they were running routes the

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<v Speaker 1>DBS were. You know, it wasn't like a hotly contested

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<v Speaker 1>thing until the end when they were they were actually

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<v Speaker 1>running routes hard and the DBS were uh covering. The

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<v Speaker 1>half speed reminds me of the story from Cowboys training

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<v Speaker 1>camp from Jimmy and Austin and Uh, I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>won't say the sportscaster's name. Um, and he wasn't here

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<v Speaker 1>for very long, so it wasn't Dale Hansen or Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Doocey or Bill Jones. But they were running like a

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<v Speaker 1>three quarter speed goal line drill and the offense, ever so,

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<v Speaker 1>the offense scored on every place, So I remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so Ted Nobson asked Jimmy after after the practice.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, Jimmy, are you concerned about your goal line defense? Ted?

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<v Speaker 1>That was half speat, Hey, I and it's it's camp.

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<v Speaker 1>For the ninety one season, I did a Sunday Night

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<v Speaker 1>uh segment with him after every game. Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>He would ask where you got this mick rant from.

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<v Speaker 1>He would talk to Jimmy, he would ask me. He

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<v Speaker 1>would ask me what I wanted to talk about ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of time? Right, and so I kind of give him

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff then we can get on the air live.

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<v Speaker 1>And we go on the air live, and he would

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<v Speaker 1>not ask me anything we previously just other stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>I had never done TV before. And the lady that

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<v Speaker 1>was came here with Jimmy to do some of the

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<v Speaker 1>TV shows, Brenda bouchell I told her, I said, what

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<v Speaker 1>do I do? And she goes answer his question and

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<v Speaker 1>then say what you want to say, like what you

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<v Speaker 1>told him you were going to talk about, and then

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that. Okay, So I digressed, and so take

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<v Speaker 1>it from there. So as far as what you saw yesterday, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just reminded that. Well I had another one for

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<v Speaker 1>you too. But watching a training camp practice where the

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<v Speaker 1>first team or the scout team offense was going against

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<v Speaker 1>the first team defense. And you know what happens, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You're supposed to run the play, throw the pass, and

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<v Speaker 1>the defense intercepts. Right. So the poor third string quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>was running the scout team, he got intercepted like three

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<v Speaker 1>or four times, and somebody reported, yeah, thumbs down for

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<v Speaker 1>whoever it was, because he got intercepted for a time.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, or they'll have drills, you know, parcels would

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<v Speaker 1>do the situation drills, and the idea of the drill

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<v Speaker 1>is to throw the ball. Throw the ball, throw the

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<v Speaker 1>ball in the stands. Basically, you're you're killing the clock.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically you're in San Antonio and they decided there's five

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<v Speaker 1>seconds to go in the game. You're winning. You got

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<v Speaker 1>to kill the clock. And Quincy Carter drops back and

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<v Speaker 1>throws it way high and out of bounds, and all

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<v Speaker 1>the people started booing, like, you missed the receivers. The

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<v Speaker 1>crowd starts booing, yeah, the drift right, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>doing it is throwing it out high and by time

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<v Speaker 1>the ball comes down the right. But there was now

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the play of the day. And this is what

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about quite a bit last week because of

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<v Speaker 1>Everson's sort of connection to Marquis Bell because undrafted rookie

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<v Speaker 1>mom and dad have both called me to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>looking out for them. Boy. So, so they're in goal line,

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<v Speaker 1>uh and it's fourth and goal at the one, and

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Rush drops back to throw a quick out to

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<v Speaker 1>his left to do Ontario Drummond, rookie wide receiver, and

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<v Speaker 1>Bell is covering him out of the slot. He jumps

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<v Speaker 1>the route for an interception and he basically goes ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine yards through the touchdown? Right, he didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>quit and run it? Right? Did he ran all the

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<v Speaker 1>way all the way right? At what he what he

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<v Speaker 1>got there? He had to come back all the way right,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't get it. He didn't give up the football.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, oh, he's going to keep it as a souvenir, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And then when he got back to somebody that was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he handed And so when McCarthy was asked

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<v Speaker 1>about it, he said, you know, he goes, he was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty impressive during the rookie mini camp and he continues

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<v Speaker 1>to stand out. And somebody said, Yanni would have had

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown, right, he goes, well, I think he stepped

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<v Speaker 1>out of bounds and it's like, let's not worry about

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<v Speaker 1>the small stuff. Right. But I'll tell you what when

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<v Speaker 1>you saw him jumped the route and take off. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked last week about his four four one speed. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got four four one speed for a guy his side. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been pretty impressive. So is he as big as

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Vons? Not as tall? He's six two, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>two yeah what is he now? Because we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the variation in his weights. So he's six two and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say two twelve, but he looks bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks like a linebacker. Um, yeah, six two two twelve, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but more like Wilson. Well got safety Wilson, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but just I don't know he's he's taller and he

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<v Speaker 1>just when I saw him, I said, God, he looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a linebacker. And then when they were and when

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<v Speaker 1>they were talking about him, dan Quinn mentioned his name

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes, yeah, when he goes. When I first

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<v Speaker 1>saw him work out, I look at guys and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see them on how I would use him

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<v Speaker 1>on my team in my defense. And he said, when

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Marquise, I said, well, he might be able

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<v Speaker 1>to play linebacker, be that j Ron Kurtz type guy

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<v Speaker 1>in my defense. And he said so when he came

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<v Speaker 1>here the first time I had him meeting with the linebackers,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to see what how he would develop. So

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<v Speaker 1>he was one of my guys that last week last Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>when I wrote my column, I said, okay, keep an

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<v Speaker 1>eye on these two guys, Marquise Bell and t J. Vasher.

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<v Speaker 1>The wide receiver six six out of Texas Tech. He

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<v Speaker 1>spent all last year on non football injury. He had

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<v Speaker 1>knee surgery and you just look at his Look at him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always open, right, he's six six, Just throw it up,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had a catch yesterday that got a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of wiles from from everybody. Wouldn't you think that, God

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<v Speaker 1>he could do. I think he could really control things

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<v Speaker 1>a bit better if you're looking at that size, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and looking at that speed and his agility, not not

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<v Speaker 1>just straight line. I'm talking his agility. You seem to

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it. You seem to talk very well

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<v Speaker 1>as Wes dan Quinn about his agility. I'd rather have

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<v Speaker 1>him at safety. Yeah, when you have that kind of agility. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when they lined up with the second team, he was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the two safeties. I'd like to see him

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<v Speaker 1>playing the ball in the air down the field. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>how well do you play that? I mean, we can

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<v Speaker 1>all look good, but when that ball is in the air,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to know how to attack it. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to necessarily make the picks, of course I love that,

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<v Speaker 1>but how to attack it in the air, catch a

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<v Speaker 1>highest point. Those the kind of things that alongside the

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<v Speaker 1>amazing stuff that you said he's doing, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>things that you kind of want to look for so

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't here. But Everson points out that his roommate

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<v Speaker 1>in college, mar uh is my roommate in college. His

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<v Speaker 1>sister in law, that's her nephew. Okay, okay, that's basically it. Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so he had some insider information and mom and dad

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<v Speaker 1>all call him, like, look out for my baby. You

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<v Speaker 1>know you can tell him about the interception. Yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And I've been trying to catch up with him. I

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<v Speaker 1>called him and he was on the elevator and he

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't hear me. And then once he got down, I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to call him. You know, we just send some clone. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to come out for a practice. There

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<v Speaker 1>you go, there you go. Maybe we can finally meet.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway that, um, you mentioned Tyler Smith, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure when the last time he lined up

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<v Speaker 1>against somebody at guard it was against uh, it was

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<v Speaker 1>probably against Arlington Martin. Yeah, now, Arnington Martin has some

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<v Speaker 1>really good talent though, I mean, Miles Garrett bladed on

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<v Speaker 1>to Martin when he was in North Since you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line when they first went out there, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrn Smith, you're not gonna like to hear this, but

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<v Speaker 1>he evidently had some back tightness. Tyrant Tyrant, Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh so he wasn't out there. I'll go over some

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<v Speaker 1>of the guys that were out there. Yeah, but anyway, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Molets go, uh there, let's fourth round, fourth round,

0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:35.440
<v Speaker 1>while let's go yeah. Uh, he was and Ball were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sharing that left tackle spot. Connor mcgovernn was

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<v Speaker 1>at left guard, Tyler Beatis at center, Zach Martin, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Terrence Steele. So this is what normally happens, right

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<v Speaker 1>when when they start these types of practice, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>deference to guys who are veterans, like you get to

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<v Speaker 1>go out first because the rookies got to earn his right.

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<v Speaker 1>So so Tyler Smith uh went out with the second

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<v Speaker 1>team at left guard. I like the fact that they're

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<v Speaker 1>working him just at guard right now. Yeah. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he's twenty years old to just I'm sorry, I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking at I was looking. He's exactly what I told

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<v Speaker 1>the guard first round draft pie guard. And yes, and

0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:31.080
<v Speaker 1>if that we draft a guard, that's a first pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still trying to get over there. And if that

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<v Speaker 1>back tightness continues, he'll be we'll be trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you say Tyler and not not Tyrant. Tyler Tyrant.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, so that would be that's when we get

0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:48.800
<v Speaker 1>concerned about Tyrn's Tyrn Smith's back tightness. If they start

0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:52.360
<v Speaker 1>working Tyler Smith at left tackle, although they want, well

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to be the swing tackle. They think he's

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<v Speaker 1>got the ability play left and right. Uh, they're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at balls a backup right tackle, Terrence Steel. I'd love

0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:05.960
<v Speaker 1>to see this guy get in and play man ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Just get just to see right quality time. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, some quality time. Well, you'll get it in preseason.

0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:17.240
<v Speaker 1>And you've got you've got two tackles now that are

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<v Speaker 1>both six to eight right balls. If I remember correctly,

0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:25.000
<v Speaker 1>that was that was his size. Um, I don't want

0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:26.440
<v Speaker 1>to be too big. I want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>can see I mean he's going the ball and that

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<v Speaker 1>they can move well enough they're both get out the

0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:39.320
<v Speaker 1>way they're both Yeah, well that'll that'll that'll take care

0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.919
<v Speaker 1>of your blind side because you won't be able to

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<v Speaker 1>see over there. So anyway, I have a I have

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<v Speaker 1>a question. You know me, I'm a YouTube guy. If

0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.400
<v Speaker 1>you don't know it, now you know it. Now say

0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:56.520
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys signed Quandre Mosley. Is that true? Tell me

0:18:56.560 --> 0:19:02.359
<v Speaker 1>about this guy? Yes? That talking about the guy defensive back.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Chris number thirty seven, thirty six

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<v Speaker 1>four point three forty year, thirty nine, number thirty nine

0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:15.919
<v Speaker 1>corner yesterday I was asking, Yes, I was just asking

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<v Speaker 1>if if spack Nola saw him out there. Obviously you didn't.

0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:22.640
<v Speaker 1>He's looking at his notes. But a Kentucky Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>talked about another one out of Kentucky. It's a rookie

0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:30.160
<v Speaker 1>free agent. What the hell's wrong with that? So it's Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>you got you gotta go. You gotta show up for

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<v Speaker 1>you before I'm gonna re memoriz. I thought, I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe with a point. Here's the difference. Here the here's

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<v Speaker 1>the difference. Markispell got a little bit of money when

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<v Speaker 1>he signed as a rookie free agent, right and Quandre hasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He got fifteen thousand dollars there you god, yeah, was

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<v Speaker 1>there going to guarantee? They guaranteed him a full year's

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<v Speaker 1>salary on the practice squad. Okay, So basically it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we think you're good enough to at least make the

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<v Speaker 1>p actor squad will give you eighteen weeks of pay,

0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:09.159
<v Speaker 1>which comes to about now now eighteen weeks. Well you

0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.520
<v Speaker 1>thought about eighteen times. What it's like almost two hundred,

0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:16.159
<v Speaker 1>two hundred thousand nice things. There you go. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>every soon, would you like to just be a practice

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<v Speaker 1>squad quarterback? I've been saying that for a long time. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I said that last season. Remember I was upset about

0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:27.919
<v Speaker 1>what they're getting just to be on the practice squad.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a break. They can have a fifteen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars get about his signing bonus last fifteen hundred Gil

0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.480
<v Speaker 1>could take that. But my boy, Mosley that I have

0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:40.479
<v Speaker 1>some good stuff on him. He's okay. Six career games.

0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna keep an eye. He only started like four starts.

0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Three year career in Kentucky. Sixty nine tackles, three tackles

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<v Speaker 1>for loss, He got sacked, ten breakups. So yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>could just see he's just one of those young guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Came over from wide receiver and decided, you know what,

0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:02.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe I can play defensive back. So we'll see Kentucky

0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Pro Day four three two forty. Oh there you go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six inch vertical uh, and he's about six one

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<v Speaker 1>six two. But he didn't get drafted. Huh didn't I

0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:20.920
<v Speaker 1>get No, he just didn't have He just didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>enough time because he comes from a wide receiver. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'd just like to keep out this young man. See

0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:28.920
<v Speaker 1>what the heck he's doing. You never know where those

0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:31.200
<v Speaker 1>diamonds in the buff come from. So the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>I think that stood out was, Uh, you know, I

0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:39.280
<v Speaker 1>think everybody's somewhat worried about the wide receiver position and

0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:43.800
<v Speaker 1>knowing that Michael Gallup is not working out. They lose

0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:51.439
<v Speaker 1>Amari Cooper, they lose Cedric Wilson, so it's assumed that

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<v Speaker 1>ceedee lamb number one guy. And Uh, I like the

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<v Speaker 1>way he talked about it with a lot of confidence,

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<v Speaker 1>saying that's always been my goal to be the number

0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:07.520
<v Speaker 1>one receiver. Uh. Now without Gallop there, James Washington shows

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<v Speaker 1>up with a walking boot on his left foot. Great,

0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:15.359
<v Speaker 1>and he's not practicing. Turns out he's got a strained

0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 1>tendon in his left foot. Uh. They don't think he'll

0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:23.399
<v Speaker 1>be out too long. But he wasn't out there. But

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<v Speaker 1>at least you got to see the third round picked

0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:30.679
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Tilbert making lots of plays out there. Fortunately, Tulbert

0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:34.720
<v Speaker 1>was working with Britt Brown doing rehab on the chores.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he helped me out transition there. Right, So

0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:43.520
<v Speaker 1>when they first went out, it was Ceedee Lamb, Noah Brown,

0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:48.560
<v Speaker 1>and Semi Fijokow Semi looking. He caught a couple of passes. Okay,

0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I have high hopes for him, but he didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to play last year, and so I want to see

0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:55.560
<v Speaker 1>what he's got the other So the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>receivers that were out there had a total of sixteen catches. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you hope you have enough up that your fifth round

0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:04.000
<v Speaker 1>draft pick doesn't have to play a rookie year. But apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>as it stands right now, if they were to play

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<v Speaker 1>a game this Sunday on Memorial Day weekend, your starting

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<v Speaker 1>wide receivers would be Ceedee Lamb, Noah Brown, and Semi

0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:20.800
<v Speaker 1>pe Hoko. That's right, if they started to tomorrow. So

0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 1>it didn't sound like sound like Jalen Tilbert would be

0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy said he'd be back next week. So but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a good visual at the wide receiver position,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing what you had lost and what you were hoping for,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Tilbert's not practicing and James Washington. It's not practicing.

0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Washington evidently didn't seem too concerned about it, So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see where that one goes. So you're good with the

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:53.560
<v Speaker 1>depth that's at the receiver position, buggers or a need

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:56.720
<v Speaker 1>to go get someone who I think them playing experience.

0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to keep an eye on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a history of Washington's injury that particularly injury

0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 1>now I don't believe so, or at least I didn't

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 1>hear about it, So it didn't seem like they were

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:10.119
<v Speaker 1>overly concerned. But you would like him out there, were

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:13.000
<v Speaker 1>working as much as he can at this time with

0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott, who last year at this time, you know,

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 1>they were keeping close tabs on him because he was

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 1>still rehabbing from his surgery, his ankle surgery. But he

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:30.480
<v Speaker 1>was moving around a little and moving pretty well. But again,

0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:33.119
<v Speaker 1>you know this will be you know, he hadn't had

0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>an off season like this, so that certainly helps him out, uh,

0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:39.399
<v Speaker 1>to actually be out there or working with these guys

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:42.679
<v Speaker 1>that that they you know, didn't have that opportunity much

0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:45.159
<v Speaker 1>last year. I know, if he's up to him, he

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:48.199
<v Speaker 1>worked the hell out of him and this offseason you know,

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 1>just ing sure, we have timing you just I mean,

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:53.480
<v Speaker 1>he's got to work with all the wide receivers considering

0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 1>the many possibilities that they're out there. You know, they

0:24:56.320 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 1>had a couple other guys not working out, Carlos watching Osa,

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Odigi Zua had a quad strain, and then you know

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Jaquon Hardy and ric o'dowdell were working with Brits, so

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 1>they had some sort of sprains. Davante Bond, a rookie

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:17.639
<v Speaker 1>free agent back Glahoma, he wipped off at one point

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 1>he was kind of holding I think it was his

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<v Speaker 1>right knee. And Alex Lindstrom, another rookie free agent offensive lineman,

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<v Speaker 1>had an appendectomy. And then we know Jabril Cox and

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<v Speaker 1>Damon Clark are still rehabbing from their surgeries. So there

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 1>it is. There is your first Open Ota injury, which

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<v Speaker 1>when Mike was asked about a couple of the injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, what we got to do injury ports for jeez?

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<v Speaker 1>when you were hosting the show a week ago. Did

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Chris Hall do the reads? No, Everson Walls stepped to

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the plate. Did now knocked it out the box? Base?

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 1>I bet you did right slow motion, but it wins

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 1>the race, thank you very much. I would call that

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 1>from winning the watching cartoons. Don't don't, don't don't mention

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>that to Rich Rich strike. By the way, now I'm

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>looking at these roosters here, this this jersey, So all

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>these guys. Kelvin Joseph's got number one, Jordan Lewis's jersey.

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 1>He was your number last year. Yeah, I know. And

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>now you've got some guy named Israel muh number twenty four. Yeah,

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>he seventh round picked last year. He was in his

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I think a thirty. Where do you come from? South Carolina?

0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina? Yeah, he played corner in safety in college

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>at South Carolina and they moved him to safety. Yeah,

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm looking at kid, big guy. But yeah, okay,

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>So Kelvin Joseph's wearing number one, Jordan Lewis is now

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 1>wearing number two, Anthony Brown is now wearing number three,

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.479
<v Speaker 1>and other dbs of course, Donovan Wilson last year War

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>six and Treyvon seven. So what do you think about

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 1>the single digit dbs. I love it, I really do.

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I call I called the corny earlier. But anything that

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 1>can confuse quarterbacks, I love it. They don't know where

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 1>they're coming from, they don't know whose numbers who I

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>think I'm more I'm more happy with the linebackers having

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:59.239
<v Speaker 1>these small, low numbers because that really confuses a lot

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>of quarterbacks. You got Michael Pauses up there, is he

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna be linebacker or a defensive end? Then you got

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>uh Wilson Dophin. Wilson might come up and show in

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>a blitz, then he might be back in the middle

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>of the field. You know, you've got Jabril Cox number fourteen.

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>You know what linebacker was? Number fourteen? He can't be

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>a linebacker. Oh there's the blitz. You see what I'm saying.

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 1>So that's why Tom Brady was complaining. I love it.

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love it. I really If I

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>would have been able to do that, I would have

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>kept my number nine from Grammy state you are number nine,

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 1>number nine? Who had nine when you were here? Uh?

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Anybody no Mitch Hoops? Yeah, beat somebody like Mitch. So

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>this was this was. This was funny when we were

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>talking to Cede lamb Uh. His locker now is next

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>to Das at Dak's request. Uh. And so somebody said, well,

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 1>where was your locker And I was thinking, yeah, where

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>was it? And he mentioned, oh, it's over there where

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Braylon Jones is. And I'm going, I don't remember seeing

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>him there. It's like, no, because I wasn't in the

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>locker room his first two years in the National Football All.

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 1>That's right because of COVID uh in twenty twenty, right,

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>so I have no idea where his stuff was. And

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 1>may Cooper, Ah, so he's replaced you and so did

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>they have a ceremony? Yeah? So, And then I was

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 1>looking for Dalton Scholtz. Well, the last time I would

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>have talked to Dalton Scholtz in the locker room, he

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 1>was next to the little walkway that goes into the

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 1>showers stalls, right. I looked over there and it's like, well,

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 1>where's Dalton Schultz. Well, he's way down the other end

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>of the of the locker room. And then dawned on

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 1>the other side of that, and then it dawned on me.

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, you know, other than when I was

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>here with the rookies. I hadn't been in the locker

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>room with the veterans the last well, it had been

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 1>the day after they got beat uh in the playoff

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 1>game after the twenty ninth was twenty. No, it was

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>the last game of the season twenty nineteen, right when

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>they finished eight and eight. That was the last time

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>we'd been. Because all the other interviews have been outdoors.

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Basically one person comes out, everybody interviews them. So you

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 1>actually had an opportunity to walk by and like talk

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>to somebody without twenty people with you. Uh. It was

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>a little different, but it felt right at least. So

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>what did it did? Did look any different? I mean

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>besides people getting moved in dinner, just moved around. Yeah,

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Dak was in the same place, you know. And then

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the early conversation, especially with Dak and

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>de Marcus Lawrence, Uh, it was about the tragan and

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Uvaldi Uh and uh, you know, somebody somebody asked, Dak,

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 1>is somebody going to tell you, you know, stick to sports,

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 1>don't be talking about other stuff? He goes, I don't

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>think anybody's ignorant enough to say that to me. Just

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>like that, I thought that was pretty good, and you know,

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>and and the other thing he said that you know

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>it was I mean, it stuck out. He was talking about,

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, gosh, we got to be scared to send

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>our kids to school. He said, I'm almost fearful now

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>to have kids. You know, I don't have any right. Um,

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 1>and DeMarcus Lawrence talked about how tough it was to

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>send his kids back to school. He's got three four

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>something like that, and uh said he'd you know, he'd

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>get into the locker room and call his wife. Everything okay,

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 1>everything good, you know, so uh yeah, there was a

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of talk about, uh, the effect of what happened

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 1>there with the nineteen murders. To this point, you don't

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>have to twenty one nineteen kids kids, right, You don't

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>have to have kids, just like Dak doesn't have kids

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>to empathize. Of course, people always talk about how, you know,

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you can relate because you're kind of in a similar situation,

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 1>but you really don't have to be. You know, the

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 1>tragedy is the tragedy itself. So well, we've all had

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 1>kids exactly, and you think back, I mean, you know,

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:23.440
<v Speaker 1>if you're a parent, I mean, gosh, and even Mike

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy told us afterwards that, you know, they had talked

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:31.880
<v Speaker 1>about him giving an opening statement when he did his

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 1>press conference, and he said that he said, I can't.

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I can do it. He said, I'll

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 1>get too emotional. Well, he got asked the question, and

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>he got about thirty seconds into it and he started

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 1>getting real emotional, talking about yeah, I've got, you know,

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:51.320
<v Speaker 1>a daughter of fourth grade or whatever, and he needed

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 1>a few moments, and two or three times he stopped,

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>and he was he was he was pretty broken up

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 1>just thinking about it, right, And then I think towards

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:04.319
<v Speaker 1>the end of when he finished it, he goes, well,

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm irish, and when we get old, we cry alt. Yeah,

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>and I said, Italian guys say, we all kind of

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 1>cry more at this age. Yeah, you know, it just

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 1>not just the kids, everybody. I worry about that. Like

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 1>my wife works at them all, you know. I mean,

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:26.880
<v Speaker 1>you got people shooting up grocery stores and churches and

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>and all of that. So you know, just to be

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:34.879
<v Speaker 1>in to just think of that in any situation, it's

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:37.319
<v Speaker 1>really kind of tough, you know, Like you said, call

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>your wife. I mean I talked to him. I called

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.840
<v Speaker 1>almost every day at work, you know, just to check in,

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 1>especially when I'm board and see what's going on. But

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 1>otherwise you worry about any situation where a lot of

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>people in place and can't be hurt. Uh, and being

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 1>this this precarious situation just from going to work, just

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 1>going to school, and I think the church and for

0:35:57.080 --> 0:36:01.440
<v Speaker 1>these guys, I think the door opened Tuesday evening when

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Steve Kerr stood up there before the game. I don't

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:05.920
<v Speaker 1>know if you were there. He had to cover it,

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>but he opened the door and just you know, went off.

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:16.800
<v Speaker 1>And and people need to understand there's no division between

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>reality and sports, right, it overlaps. These guys are living lives, right,

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>not just playing sports. And and I was glad Dak

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 1>said that it's like, don't even you know, insult me

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 1>that I can't have a say. I think when with fans,

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 1>fans often come to a sports event to escape, right,

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:44.760
<v Speaker 1>They watch it to escape. Well, the people that you're watching,

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 1>they're not robots, they're people as well, So what's their escape? Yeah,

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 1>you understand. And when you're talking about Steve Kirk with

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the history that he has, if I'm not mistaken, his

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:59.320
<v Speaker 1>father was killed in a terrorist accident or something like that,

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:04.040
<v Speaker 1>so assassinated. I mean, so that has never been with

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:07.279
<v Speaker 1>a kid, that's his dad, and yet he still can

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 1>feel it. So, uh, you know, the kids. Of course,

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 1>that's the main tragedy of it. But you know, I

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:16.440
<v Speaker 1>think the other tragedy is where can we be safe?

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 1>That's the problem. It's like I was at the ac

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.280
<v Speaker 1>getting ready to do a live shot at four o'clock

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 1>on the Mavericks Warriors game, and I'm sitting there on

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 1>that Tuesday, on that Tuesday, and I'm like, and it

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:32.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think everyone once you when you hear about it,

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 1>and I just heard about it. Probably I was driving

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 1>to the arena heard about it, and it's like, you

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:41.239
<v Speaker 1>got this such a sick feeling in the pity of

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 1>your stomach. You don't even feel like doing whatever it

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>is you're assigned to do at that moment, you know, stop. Yeah,

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's just like and Neui scrugs, and I

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and uh, Mike Leslie, We're all on the side on

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:57.359
<v Speaker 1>the sideline getting ready to do and fortunately they didn't

0:37:57.400 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 1>come to us, obviously because they were covering that event.

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:03.320
<v Speaker 1>And we're like, why come does anyone I mean, this

0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:06.480
<v Speaker 1>is so trivial compared to what just happened. It what

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Bill Jones had said, right right, and we're supposed to Yeah,

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I had to do a radio segment. I have one

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 1>every Tuesday late afternoon with the radio station and Tyler KTBB,

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I don't want to do this.

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I can. Fortunately the subject didn't

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 1>come up because I don't know if I would have

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 1>been able to talk about well. And that's the way

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm handling it right now. I'm not watching any of

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>it because I'm I'm sitting there. I don't want to

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:37.400
<v Speaker 1>put my brain around this evil that happened. You know,

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to and so it's too sickening to

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 1>even hear the stories about it. Yet. Well, they when

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I was watching the news that night, UM one of

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 1>the stations had a very young, a female female man

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 1>that I was going to bring that and I was like,

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't have enough experience to do this, and she

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:02.839
<v Speaker 1>she got fifteen seconds in two yes, ready to break down.

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:06.360
<v Speaker 1>She kind of did. I mean, you're in there, you're seeing,

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>you're around all these people that are mourning, and it

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:12.720
<v Speaker 1>just gets into here. You could just feel it around.

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 1>You could see it around her, and there's no way

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:16.800
<v Speaker 1>she was going to escape that. I saw that, and

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:19.880
<v Speaker 1>to me, it just kind of lends to the tragedy,

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, just how bad it is

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 1>and how much it effects everyone. I mean, what was

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.839
<v Speaker 1>she probably twenty five years old, maybe she's just out

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 1>of high school seven years and you know, she's looking

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>at this and yeah, I thought that was very poignant

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 1>because it showed the emotion. I'm glad she broke down

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 1>like that, because sometimes you can't just be you can't

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 1>just do your job. Yeah, you know, sometimes showing that

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:49.280
<v Speaker 1>emotion was her doing her job. That to me displayed

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the tragedy itself. That was a mirror of what the

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 1>tragedy was. So I was and she got herself together,

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.400
<v Speaker 1>she pulled it together. She did a good job, and

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:00.360
<v Speaker 1>she passed it onto somebody as they came back to it,

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, and she was a little bit more steady.

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 1>And the good thing was when they passed it on

0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to the veteran report she covered first. That just shows

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:11.800
<v Speaker 1>you the emotional and I thought that was pretty perfect.

0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if a female would have done that,

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 1>but a female reporter I remember when you know. I

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 1>was in the practice facility when the roof came down

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 1>and I had just started doing stuff at the fan,

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 1>and they immediately called me and they wanted, you know,

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:31.399
<v Speaker 1>go on the air and talk about it. I said,

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 1>you know what, you're gonna have to give me a

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>few moments. I don't think emotionally I can come out

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 1>there and speak without making you know, and it's a

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 1>full on site on site. Your dreading was too going.

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>So we waited an hour, right, and then I went

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 1>on and I was still saying a little bit of

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 1>problem talking about it, knowing you know, what had happened

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>and what could have been and so yeah, it's a

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 1>it's a tough thing, all right. We'll continue with the

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 1>triviality of what we do know coming up here in

0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 1>just a moment here on Mick Shots, before there was

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:14.719
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<v Speaker 1>want to look at the number ninees in Cowboys history.

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:49.279
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to think back quarter quarterback head. I

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:52.399
<v Speaker 1>mentioned Mitch Hoops, Did you did yes? Nineteen seventy five,

0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Mitch Hoops wore number nine, putter so and when you

0:43:56.800 --> 0:44:01.319
<v Speaker 1>became a Dallas Cowboy, number nine was available if they

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:05.919
<v Speaker 1>let cornerbacks wear number nine back then, Because the next

0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>number nine in Cowboys history as far as a regular

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 1>season now, they might have been a number nine in

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:14.440
<v Speaker 1>the preseason, but the list in the media guide is

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 1>just the guys that made the regular season roster. Roger

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Rusick kicker nineteen to one, of your teammates nineteen eighty

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:26.800
<v Speaker 1>seven to eighty nine, and then Cooper Cup's dad or

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 1>number nine nineteen ninety one with the Cowboys very briefly,

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:35.839
<v Speaker 1>and of course Rodney Pete right, and then Daniel Gonzalez

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety eight. Now my number before twenty four,

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.239
<v Speaker 1>they just threw me anything. I think they actually had

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<v Speaker 1>a whole in the dawn. Jason, twenty four should have

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 1>been a wanted number. That's I mean, that's very cool.

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 1>They didn't ask me what the hell I wanted. Look up,

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 1>you look at me, SAgs undrafted free day, just say

0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:00.279
<v Speaker 1>we're at the crap and they threw me on number

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven. And I had number twenty seven. Ron Fellows

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:06.359
<v Speaker 1>almost all through training camp. Ron did not have twenty seven.

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what. I can't remember what he had

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:11.239
<v Speaker 1>in training camp. It wasn't twenty seven. I had twenty seven.

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>He ended up with twenty four and twenty four, I

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:16.439
<v Speaker 1>had twenty seven. Remember he was a wide receiver, well

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 1>so so did he come in a zoo wide receiver?

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Came in as a d was a wide receiver at Missouri. Right,

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:25.799
<v Speaker 1>They drafted him and said we're gonna so he would

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:27.879
<v Speaker 1>have had a dB number. He would have had dB.

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:30.359
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember when he came into They didn't think

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:32.040
<v Speaker 1>he was gonna make it, and so they gave him

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 1>thirty eight. He was a draft he was seven. You

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't drafted out of Missouri your name? He was seven eight? Yeah,

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:42.759
<v Speaker 1>and Ken Miller from mister State was seven bat that's

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 1>what they called him. Seven seven first first, seventh round,

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:48.160
<v Speaker 1>thick seconds. And by the way, he was a pretty

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:50.440
<v Speaker 1>good wide receiver in college, was he really? Yeah? Yes

0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:53.240
<v Speaker 1>he was. He was, you know, one of those things speed.

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:55.360
<v Speaker 1>He's got the uh. I told him he got the

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:58.839
<v Speaker 1>inverted thing because hearts on his right side. I did

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:01.279
<v Speaker 1>not know his heart on he's got there. I saw

0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:04.239
<v Speaker 1>it on the TV. Really, yes, he legitimately has his

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 1>everything is like reverse. I guess you know. It's it's rare,

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 1>but no big deal. There's no uh, you know danger.

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:15.879
<v Speaker 1>As long as it's work, it still works. They don't

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 1>know how, but it still works. By the way, that

0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:21.400
<v Speaker 1>year the two Missouri guys got drafted first round. Party

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 1>Howard Richards. That's right, how Richard. He was doing, by

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 1>the way, analyst radio. He's the radio network analyst host

0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:32.800
<v Speaker 1>for Missouri now and he was he was working with

0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:35.839
<v Speaker 1>the FBI at one point, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, yeah,

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 1>he was a big time. He was pretty sharp, he was.

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:40.719
<v Speaker 1>He's still a good guy, still a good Eric. Eric

0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Wright got drafted in eighty one. Also, now that guy there,

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:46.919
<v Speaker 1>that's the that's the savior of the San Francisco game,

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 1>right there, got Drew from behind. Drew that's the savior

0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:53.319
<v Speaker 1>with the finger a finger today it would be called

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:56.800
<v Speaker 1>the horse sky to tackle. Yeah, that's just how close.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very interesting. All right, all right, so um

0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:06.520
<v Speaker 1>to two more things I got on your legal pad. Um,

0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:09.560
<v Speaker 1>we're empty. You know we were talking about we were

0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:13.400
<v Speaker 1>talking about how they were kind of looking for tight ends, right,

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:17.239
<v Speaker 1>they needed help at tight end. If you look at

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:20.520
<v Speaker 1>your list here there are six tight ends that were

0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:26.720
<v Speaker 1>on the field. Uh last wow, yesterday, not only Dalton Schultz,

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 1>but you know, their fourth round picked Jake Ferguson, Jeremy

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Sprinkle came back, actually had a couple of catches, uh yesterday,

0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Ian Bunting uh and Sean McEwan and then Peyton hender

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Shot was a rookie free agent. So wait, wait, wait,

0:47:54.000 --> 0:47:59.719
<v Speaker 1>you can't mention nine. Very nice, you're not explaining from Indiana.

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Hayden is so uh yeah, they're they're, you know, making

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:09.120
<v Speaker 1>sure And Ferguson looks the part. Now they gave him,

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 1>they gave him forty eight. But I give him credit

0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 1>that he in his rookie interview, or maybe it was

0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:19.440
<v Speaker 1>last week in his interview, he knew that Darryl Johnston

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 1>had forty eight. So sharp kid, right, he knows it's

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:28.399
<v Speaker 1>cowboys here. So so uh yeah, you hadn't even seen

0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:30.480
<v Speaker 1>these guys do anything, have you? Now? Now you don't

0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 1>even know anything about these guys at all. I mean,

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I know, you know a couple of guys that I

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:40.400
<v Speaker 1>might have looked up. But Hendershot had forty six catches

0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 1>and four touchdowns for Indian last year. Right, Well, there

0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:45.839
<v Speaker 1>we go. We'll keep an eye on him. They had

0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:49.120
<v Speaker 1>a decent season last year, didn't they. Yes, they did. Um.

0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:51.560
<v Speaker 1>The other thing I think of note in the Cowboys

0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:55.719
<v Speaker 1>haven't done this in a while. Um. This training camp

0:48:55.920 --> 0:49:01.360
<v Speaker 1>there we have two planned scrimmages. First with Denver. So

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the first preseason game is at Denver and they're gonna

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:08.879
<v Speaker 1>go a couple days early and have a scrimmage two

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:11.960
<v Speaker 1>days before the game with the Broncos. And then the

0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:17.000
<v Speaker 1>second preseason game is uh they break in camp. They're

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:23.759
<v Speaker 1>going to La No La to play the Charger play

0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:27.640
<v Speaker 1>the Charge the camp in uh, California, the Raiders, Oh no,

0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure not okay after moving there, okay, uh, And

0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:36.000
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna scrimmage the Chargers twice, uh, and then have

0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 1>a day off and then play the final preseason game

0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 1>or the final road preseason game, and then head home.

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:44.719
<v Speaker 1>They don't play them in the regular season. Correct the

0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Chargers not this year? Good? But they did they did

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:51.800
<v Speaker 1>last year. So so H McCarthy said, he really hasn't

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 1>done this before, but after they did it with the

0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Rams last year, and he said, talking to some of

0:49:56.320 --> 0:49:59.240
<v Speaker 1>the other coaches felt like it was a good idea.

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:03.280
<v Speaker 1>He well, you mean they haven't done this. He hadn't

0:50:03.760 --> 0:50:08.080
<v Speaker 1>scrimmaged teams before. Really, Yeah, he did back in the nineties, Yeah,

0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 1>he said, but not as a head coach. He did

0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 1>it when he was in Kansas that recently, but because

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was the norm. I mean, they had

0:50:16.520 --> 0:50:18.920
<v Speaker 1>been doing it, but not since he didn't do it

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:23.160
<v Speaker 1>is his first year. I guess, well the pandemic. The

0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys had did it with the Rams, remember that that

0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:28.239
<v Speaker 1>year they called off the second one because of the

0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I was going to call it a riot. It was

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:35.360
<v Speaker 1>like a rocket Jeff Fishers Rams. They had a melee

0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 1>out there, right. Yeah. That and the footy thing about

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 1>that is so I was over on the field that

0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 1>it didn't start on. I was watching the Cowboys offense, right,

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:50.120
<v Speaker 1>and it started, and they were in goal line, right,

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:54.120
<v Speaker 1>and all the Rams, all but one guy, it was

0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:59.720
<v Speaker 1>a veteran linebacker, all but one guy. Their whole defense

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:03.880
<v Speaker 1>ran on the other field. Romo brought the Cowboys to

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:06.839
<v Speaker 1>the light of Cerramids and hiked the ball and went

0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:12.400
<v Speaker 1>in for a touchdown, right. And then we were running

0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:16.120
<v Speaker 1>over into the other field, and I remember somebody yelling

0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:18.880
<v Speaker 1>at us to get back. I said, don't be worried

0:51:18.920 --> 0:51:23.319
<v Speaker 1>about me. I said, you got sixty guys out there

0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:26.840
<v Speaker 1>swinging at each other, right, Uh, that was that was

0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:31.640
<v Speaker 1>scarydown against no defense. There was one guy it was

0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:36.279
<v Speaker 1>a linebacker. Yeah, it was funny, but I don't think

0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:39.280
<v Speaker 1>anybody saw it because everybody was running to the field.

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:41.600
<v Speaker 1>But you know the bad part was is it spilled

0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:44.560
<v Speaker 1>over to the fence on the side of the field

0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:48.279
<v Speaker 1>where the fans are, and the fans were standing there

0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:51.640
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden they started like swinging at

0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 1>the players. Why that Raider fans are Rams fans? I

0:51:57.120 --> 0:52:00.960
<v Speaker 1>should say? So? Wait, you know the way Bill gave

0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:04.520
<v Speaker 1>me this little notation here, you said, Jeff Fisher's rams.

0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh? What does that mean? You trying to chest versions?

0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:12.680
<v Speaker 1>They were? They came not they came floated for bear,

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:15.640
<v Speaker 1>It's it's a it's a training camp practice. What is

0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the deal? Right? Is he trying? Was he trying to

0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:20.360
<v Speaker 1>prove something? That was that his first year with no? No, No,

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:22.719
<v Speaker 1>he'd been there for too late. I think it was.

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:25.719
<v Speaker 1>I want to say I think it was his last year.

0:52:27.120 --> 0:52:31.359
<v Speaker 1>He probably was well because the case point that they

0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:33.960
<v Speaker 1>were recorded to the coach that replaced him, he's done

0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:36.880
<v Speaker 1>pretty well. And yes he had, Yes he was. And

0:52:37.000 --> 0:52:39.880
<v Speaker 1>by the way, Eric Jeferson is still coming to the games.

0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:42.480
<v Speaker 1>But if you would call, he's still gaining yards on

0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys. Stop stop. I still have nightmares. Okay, but

0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I think I had the year wrong. I said it

0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:57.440
<v Speaker 1>was like twenty seventeen. That's why I said it was

0:52:57.520 --> 0:52:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Fisher's Rams. Well, he ended up going off on

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Eric as well. He said, Eric, should you know Eric

0:53:02.800 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 1>was trying to criticize him or whatever, and he said

0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Eric shouldn't be on the sidelines. He said, hey, can't

0:53:07.000 --> 0:53:08.960
<v Speaker 1>get the ticket to the game, and he said, Eric

0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:11.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't belong on the sidelines. And next thing you know,

0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Fish is gone and I think Eric is now in

0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the front office. So amazing how that happened. Then, So anyway,

0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:24.320
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are going to have two scrimmages m and

0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:26.880
<v Speaker 1>they're both gonna be away ones. Last year was a

0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:30.040
<v Speaker 1>home one against the Rams. The other thing is is

0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:33.760
<v Speaker 1>the UH. The NFL and the NFLPA made a change

0:53:33.920 --> 0:53:37.920
<v Speaker 1>to UH injured reserve. For the last two years because

0:53:38.000 --> 0:53:42.960
<v Speaker 1>of COVID, guys only had to spend three weeks on

0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:46.319
<v Speaker 1>IR and then they were eligible to come back UH.

0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:51.080
<v Speaker 1>This year, it's gonna be four weeks and you're only

0:53:51.320 --> 0:53:56.560
<v Speaker 1>eligible to bring back eight guys off of IR, and

0:53:57.120 --> 0:53:59.920
<v Speaker 1>you could bring back the same guy as many as

0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:05.440
<v Speaker 1>two times, but he both times count against your said again, okay,

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:10.360
<v Speaker 1>so you there's a limit now on how many guys

0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:14.160
<v Speaker 1>can return from injury reserve. Interesting, So, and that was

0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:18.719
<v Speaker 1>it was too previous to COVID, right, and you had

0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:20.880
<v Speaker 1>to designate them when you put them on IR that

0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:25.920
<v Speaker 1>they are IR return And during COVID it was unlimited, unlimited,

0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:28.239
<v Speaker 1>they set out three games, but they can come back

0:54:28.280 --> 0:54:31.920
<v Speaker 1>after three games exactly. Now it's limited to eight and

0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:34.520
<v Speaker 1>but you have to miss four weeks, which was you

0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:39.120
<v Speaker 1>can make eight moves. Eight moves, okay, our return moves

0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:43.440
<v Speaker 1>and four weeks is what it was when you were playing. Uh.

0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:47.080
<v Speaker 1>And then the team started taking advantage of that, coming

0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:53.520
<v Speaker 1>up with phony injuries to preserve a guy's rights and figuring, okay,

0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:56.399
<v Speaker 1>in four weeks, somebody else is going to get hurt

0:54:56.440 --> 0:55:00.239
<v Speaker 1>and I could bring this guy back, right, And they

0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:05.920
<v Speaker 1>actually started bringing the NFL would bring independent medical person

0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:09.800
<v Speaker 1>to view practice to make sure guys on IR weren't

0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:13.040
<v Speaker 1>practicing and make sure that they actually had an injury.

0:55:13.520 --> 0:55:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Because there was one year, I don't remember who it was,

0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:20.720
<v Speaker 1>there was a quarterback. They wanted to keep his rights.

0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:25.000
<v Speaker 1>And they were playing a preseason game against Denver and

0:55:25.160 --> 0:55:30.200
<v Speaker 1>they basically told this quarterback, when you take this snap,

0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:33.480
<v Speaker 1>we want you to roll out towards our sideline because

0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:35.640
<v Speaker 1>our cameras are going to be up there on that

0:55:35.920 --> 0:55:39.239
<v Speaker 1>side of the field, and grab your hamstring as you

0:55:42.120 --> 0:55:46.720
<v Speaker 1>He forgot to grab his hamstring. And I'm going Okay,

0:55:47.480 --> 0:55:52.040
<v Speaker 1>if he can't remember that, plays aren't gonna work. Plays

0:55:52.040 --> 0:55:57.200
<v Speaker 1>aren't going to wow. Okay, now you're talking about IR.

0:55:57.640 --> 0:55:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Like during the season, a player gets hurt and goes

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:05.080
<v Speaker 1>on IR. And now it is four games four weeks,

0:56:05.280 --> 0:56:07.520
<v Speaker 1>not games four weeks from the from the moment you

0:56:07.600 --> 0:56:11.640
<v Speaker 1>put them on. Okay, what about PUP? And and this

0:56:12.040 --> 0:56:15.399
<v Speaker 1>this relates to Michael Gallup because in the past, if

0:56:15.480 --> 0:56:21.279
<v Speaker 1>you went on PUP prior to the season starting, right you,

0:56:21.480 --> 0:56:24.440
<v Speaker 1>it was six weeks six weeks, and so Michael Gallup

0:56:24.520 --> 0:56:27.400
<v Speaker 1>would have to miss six if coming up an ACL,

0:56:27.800 --> 0:56:30.120
<v Speaker 1>if you put him on PUP, he would be it

0:56:30.160 --> 0:56:32.720
<v Speaker 1>would be he would miss six weeks to start the season.

0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:36.239
<v Speaker 1>What is it now? It didn't say PUP. It said

0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm non football injury. All right, here's five. Here's here's

0:56:40.800 --> 0:56:44.120
<v Speaker 1>what I've got. I just I'm I'm just seeing a

0:56:44.239 --> 0:56:47.239
<v Speaker 1>memo that's been released to the clubs or whatever sent

0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:51.760
<v Speaker 1>to the clubs players who are placed on reserve physically

0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:56.400
<v Speaker 1>unable to perform or reserve non football In mine didn't

0:56:56.440 --> 0:57:02.080
<v Speaker 1>say or at or after the roster production to eighty players, right,

0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:05.399
<v Speaker 1>So that is back in preseason because I can't remember

0:57:05.440 --> 0:57:07.080
<v Speaker 1>what the date is, but I'm not that's not the

0:57:07.239 --> 0:57:09.279
<v Speaker 1>last it's not the fifty three man but so it's

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:12.040
<v Speaker 1>prior to the fifty three man roster, which is equivalent

0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:14.200
<v Speaker 1>to what the what has been done in the past

0:57:14.320 --> 0:57:16.800
<v Speaker 1>as far as PUP goes will continue to count again.

0:57:17.920 --> 0:57:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Such players may begin a twenty one day practice period

0:57:23.120 --> 0:57:26.480
<v Speaker 1>or be activated after four regular season games. So not

0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:29.480
<v Speaker 1>so it's reduced. So in the case of Michael Gallup,

0:57:29.920 --> 0:57:33.480
<v Speaker 1>the new PUP rules are that he doesn't have to

0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:37.120
<v Speaker 1>sit out six games and be active on the seventh game.

0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:39.560
<v Speaker 1>He can be ready on the fifth game of the season,

0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:45.080
<v Speaker 1>which is the Cowboys opened against Tampa Bay and Cincinnati,

0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:48.720
<v Speaker 1>then at the Giants Washington, and then October ninth at

0:57:48.800 --> 0:57:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl champion Los Angeles Rams. But if Michael

0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Gallup is placed on pup and he will be four

0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:59.200
<v Speaker 1>and I can guarantee you he will be right. But

0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:04.040
<v Speaker 1>you also have that twenty one day window to decide

0:58:04.480 --> 0:58:07.600
<v Speaker 1>if you want him to start practicing, and then once

0:58:07.680 --> 0:58:11.480
<v Speaker 1>he starts, it could extend eight weeks into the season

0:58:11.760 --> 0:58:14.320
<v Speaker 1>and you start that twenty one day win can actually

0:58:14.560 --> 0:58:18.520
<v Speaker 1>extend I just threw that out seven. You could extend

0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:21.480
<v Speaker 1>it nine weeks. So what I'm saying is the earliest

0:58:21.560 --> 0:58:25.400
<v Speaker 1>if they put Gallop on pup, the earliest he will

0:58:25.440 --> 0:58:28.200
<v Speaker 1>be able to play in a game is week five

0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:31.080
<v Speaker 1>at the ramp, right, And you wouldn't do that because

0:58:31.160 --> 0:58:34.240
<v Speaker 1>you can't practice when you're on pup. So chances are

0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:37.760
<v Speaker 1>if you're coming off a torn acl and you're out

0:58:37.880 --> 0:58:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the first four weeks, you can't practice, right, you can't

0:58:40.920 --> 0:58:44.520
<v Speaker 1>practice in training camp, So he's not going to practice

0:58:44.720 --> 0:58:47.840
<v Speaker 1>three times and go play a game. So you have

0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:52.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty one days to decide when he's going to start practicing,

0:58:52.320 --> 0:58:55.560
<v Speaker 1>and then after that you get another two weeks to

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:59.320
<v Speaker 1>practice before you got to say, Okay, we're either putting

0:58:59.400 --> 0:59:02.960
<v Speaker 1>him on the rawster or he stays on for the

0:59:03.040 --> 0:59:07.360
<v Speaker 1>rest of the year. I want to hear that Lad

0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:11.480
<v Speaker 1>so you can stretch it out to like ten weeks

0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:17.200
<v Speaker 1>almost before you have to make a serious decision. Uh.

0:59:17.560 --> 0:59:22.040
<v Speaker 1>The other change they made, and it was, uh, sixteen

0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:25.080
<v Speaker 1>players on the practice squad during COVID, it's going to

0:59:25.160 --> 0:59:31.200
<v Speaker 1>be fourteen. And now you can elevate a practice a

0:59:31.520 --> 0:59:35.800
<v Speaker 1>person from the practice squad a maximum of three times.

0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Prior to that, it was only twice, so you can

0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:44.040
<v Speaker 1>move them without having to go back through free agency

0:59:44.240 --> 0:59:48.040
<v Speaker 1>or waivers to get back on the practice squad. So

0:59:48.520 --> 0:59:51.320
<v Speaker 1>that's another one. And now they've even come up with

0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:55.000
<v Speaker 1>ramp time periods during training camp, those first three or

0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:57.800
<v Speaker 1>four days where you're not allowed to put pads on

0:59:58.520 --> 1:00:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and you were supposed to only get two hours on

1:00:02.400 --> 1:00:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the field. Now they've reduced that to ninety minutes on

1:00:08.840 --> 1:00:12.680
<v Speaker 1>day two, one hundred and five minutes on day three,

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<v Speaker 1>and two hours the final two days. Oh man, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's practice now, huh yes, wow, this must be tough,

1:00:22.360 --> 1:00:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and then you can put the pads on. Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>so cool. And practice squad same sixteen fourteen? Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>what would I say? Sixteen? It was fourteen before COVID

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<v Speaker 1>now and then it was sixteen and they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it at six and you can and a maximum

1:00:40.720 --> 1:00:43.720
<v Speaker 1>of six veteran players can be on the practice squad.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the key on there, where you can actually have

1:00:47.600 --> 1:00:49.880
<v Speaker 1>veteran players on the practice squad. Of course, they're subject

1:00:49.920 --> 1:00:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to being picked off by another team, right, just like

1:00:52.200 --> 1:00:55.680
<v Speaker 1>any practice player is. So yeah, I'm sure if you're

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<v Speaker 1>putting a veteran there and someone comes to try to

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<v Speaker 1>poach them, it's like, okay, you can go, but we

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<v Speaker 1>can pay you the minimum for three weeks. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>much better having the four week ir yes, rather than

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<v Speaker 1>the old I mean for years it was just you

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<v Speaker 1>could only go one guy on right, Then it was two,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it was two. But before that it was made.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the season. And I understand the stashing part

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<v Speaker 1>of it whatever, but there it made no as much

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<v Speaker 1>money as invested in these players. And a guy gets

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<v Speaker 1>hurt week one could come back ten weeks later. You

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<v Speaker 1>got multiple guys that are in that category. It didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make any sense, you know, as long as the season is,

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<v Speaker 1>especially now. So the other point I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>make also the Raiders working out Colin Kaepernick, ah saw it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So here's what's changed Prior to this. I'd never heard

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<v Speaker 1>him say he was willing to be the backup quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>right now, or make the backup quarterback now. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>my next question. Now he's saying, I'm willing to be

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<v Speaker 1>the backup quarterback. Do you want to make backup quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>pay or do you think you're coming back and making

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<v Speaker 1>nine million dollars a year. Well, that's a big difference

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<v Speaker 1>between two thousand and seventeen and twenty twenty one, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two. Right, you know, things change, I mean everything

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<v Speaker 1>changed for him, you know, no, you know, no luck, no, no, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no opportunity. Yeah, you're gonna change. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>the way. That's the way it is. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to stick to the same script, then you

1:02:26.760 --> 1:02:29.240
<v Speaker 1>probably wouldn't get that workout. And what the Raiders have

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<v Speaker 1>They've got Jared Stidham as a backup quarterback. Nick Mullins

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<v Speaker 1>is another guy that they signed. Whatever they've got, there's

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity there. Marcus Mariota, of course, was there last

1:02:39.360 --> 1:02:42.800
<v Speaker 1>year and now he's Atlanta, and so there is an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>The question on Kaepernick is you can structure a deal

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<v Speaker 1>for him that because he hasn't played in the league

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<v Speaker 1>in so long. He wasn't in the league last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you can structure a deal that take it

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<v Speaker 1>has an incentive latent contract where he could have a base.

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<v Speaker 1>The question is for him, is he willing to play

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<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't get in a game at a veteran

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<v Speaker 1>minimum base of whatever it might be, whatever they agree

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<v Speaker 1>to one to two million dollars, and then he has

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<v Speaker 1>based on number of games he plays, he could get

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<v Speaker 1>paid a million dollars a game, whatever they can handle

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever they negotiate. Is he willing to do that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a deal? Start of what the Cowboys did

1:03:22.760 --> 1:03:26.080
<v Speaker 1>with Andy Dalton basically gave him a you know, three

1:03:26.160 --> 1:03:29.160
<v Speaker 1>million dollars deal to be the backup, but then it

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<v Speaker 1>was so much poorer game. How long he was How

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<v Speaker 1>long was he out? How long was Andy ad No,

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<v Speaker 1>he just came when he got released by a Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>The Cowboys signed right now. This guy hasn't taken a

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<v Speaker 1>snap in the NFL since was a twenty sixteen I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure, he said, twenty sixteen. Yeah, twenty sixteen. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the last time you played. So that's a long time

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<v Speaker 1>for the quarterback not to see the field. Right, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why the song changed. That's a long time he hadn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a different I mean we're different from twenty sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>to now. You know, it's something different about us, and

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you used to be a professional quarterback. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>everything changes quickly, and then that's for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy waited. This is six years now because I

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<v Speaker 1>remember everybody saying, well, this guy's better than backup quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>This team's got or that, or the Cowboys have right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, but does he want to be the

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<v Speaker 1>backup or does he want to go someplace and actually

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<v Speaker 1>compete for the starting job, which when you've been out there,

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<v Speaker 1>actually I don't think it really would have mattered. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the stance that he took that pretty much that

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<v Speaker 1>sealed his fate. So it didn't matter what he said.

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<v Speaker 1>It was going to always be something well, oh well

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I heard, and then this is what

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<v Speaker 1>I heard, so you know, when it comes down to it,

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<v Speaker 1>all those you know, trivialities, it didn't and the team

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<v Speaker 1>had to be strong enough to say, Okay, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to accept the backlash because exactly there's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>backs it is right, yes, it and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>that'll be center stage. Do you want to? And now

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden things once again, not only are

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<v Speaker 1>we different, America's a little bit different from twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>right you see. So that's the main thing as well. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I got something for you guys. I had a little reunion.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, we gotta go in a little bit, a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit union reunion. Yeah, with said Cliff Harris, got DDE, Lewis, Leboy,

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan uh and Charlie Waters. We were all at the

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<v Speaker 1>Stallings Awards, all right, Yeah, it was it was hell

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<v Speaker 1>of the Dallas Country Club. I was out there the

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<v Speaker 1>Stallings Awards. Stallings Award. Yeah, let me get some's old

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<v Speaker 1>gene with me and Chuck, Me and Charlie Waters. That

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<v Speaker 1>was nicely moving along. Both are moving pretty slow slow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but Jean's gotta got a cane. Chie doesn't. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>only difference right there. So Charlie's close to happen, Yes

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<v Speaker 1>he is. That said, that's the only difference. But I

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<v Speaker 1>saw he and Cliff and we all sat together, our

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<v Speaker 1>wives talked to each other man and what was the award?

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<v Speaker 1>The award went to the award went too. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see if you recognize Shut up. Sorry, I wasna like

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<v Speaker 1>tease you with this, and can't you recognize that guy? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you can. Then that's I took a better

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<v Speaker 1>picture with him myself. And and that was pretty cool

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<v Speaker 1>because he and Sean Springs were teammates. So we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about about Ron, talked about about the kidney donations and

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<v Speaker 1>things of that nature. So who was teammates with run

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<v Speaker 1>Fickle Sean with Sean Springs son, Ron Springs Son Sean Springs.

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<v Speaker 1>That went right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's okay, that's okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's cool. I didn't realize they had one of those. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't invited. That's why I should have been. The

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the world would have known about it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that was good stuff. Man. We had just past Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what it was. Gene has not changed, not

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<v Speaker 1>one bit. It was it was four or five years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>We did a legend show on him and we went

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<v Speaker 1>out to his place in Paris and um, so he

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<v Speaker 1>it's got a big sprint, yes, and there's fences up

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<v Speaker 1>and he was talking about and I said, so who

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<v Speaker 1>rides out there and repairs those fencers? Why do you

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<v Speaker 1>mean I go, he goes get on my horse at

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<v Speaker 1>our ride out there, So he had to be in

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<v Speaker 1>his eighties. See that reminds me of when Wade Phillips

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<v Speaker 1>got the job here and we went to Wade's. We

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<v Speaker 1>went to bum Phillip's ranch down south of San Antonio.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe Goliad Texas. Yeah, and I mean you there

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<v Speaker 1>is no more hospitable There was no more hospitable person

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<v Speaker 1>in the world than Bum and his wife. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they offered to even put us up for the night.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just going on a day trip down there

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<v Speaker 1>to do a story on him whatever. When we got there,

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<v Speaker 1>Bum Phillips was out on his horse out I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he would I'm looking up now how old he would

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<v Speaker 1>have been then, but he was probably in his eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Ruth Anne

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Jean's wife still looks. She was great when

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<v Speaker 1>we did the interview. If there was any lapses in memory,

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<v Speaker 1>she piped right right. And Bum was born in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, and so he would have been eighty four

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<v Speaker 1>years old then. Now look up stallings and and so

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<v Speaker 1>when we finished, and we must have spent two hours

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<v Speaker 1>in his house. I think Chris was Chris was with us.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I don't think so, Oh, you weren't, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Jean is eighty seven. Eighty seven turned eighty seven in March,

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<v Speaker 1>so this would have been at least eighty okay. And

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<v Speaker 1>we got done with the whole thing and giving us

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<v Speaker 1>directions on you know, how to get out of here

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and he goes, well, wait, let's let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to lunch. And he took to the place that he

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<v Speaker 1>goes to lunch probably every day, right, And we had

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<v Speaker 1>lunch with him, and I'm sun just some some company

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, some visitors and show them off to the

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<v Speaker 1>to the old school people in the neighborhood, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And you go into guys' houses like that. It's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like going into museum because they've got all this memorabilia, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff from Alabama. They put up only

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<v Speaker 1>the best and most impressive things. Of course. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, it's like when we and now Chris

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<v Speaker 1>went to this one, we did Walt Garrison, yeah, in

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<v Speaker 1>his place, and uh, it was like going in the museum.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got cowboys stuff, and he's got cow cowboys stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and real cowboys stuff, stuff that he's whittled. We went

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<v Speaker 1>into that. I've got like three or four of those.

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<v Speaker 1>He keeps every time I'd see him, he give me one. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got all this mean works of art. That's right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's by the way. I had. I spoke for like

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<v Speaker 1>to minutes just talking to Jane that was, and he

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't understand the word I say it, so I was

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<v Speaker 1>in the wrong ear, so I had to repeat myself

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<v Speaker 1>all over. Garrison's front door was impressive in itself. The

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<v Speaker 1>whole house was his front door is is um. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all his friends's brands, like you know, like they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're farm brands, Iron Bank brand. So it's all pressed

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<v Speaker 1>into his door. So it's all these brands on his

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<v Speaker 1>It was a log house. They build remotely, take it

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<v Speaker 1>apart and then bring it and restructure it. Wow. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know how he got that. You know how he

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<v Speaker 1>got that house. He wasn't from Mike making money. If

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<v Speaker 1>it was from Skull Skull Skull, the skull commercials he made,

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<v Speaker 1>he made more money. He said, Oh, I'm sure he

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<v Speaker 1>was American Tobacco. Then the American tobacco or whatever. It

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<v Speaker 1>was he hit and he told the story, and I know,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta go about when they were at training camp

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<v Speaker 1>in Thousand Oaks, right, and they they needed some extras

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<v Speaker 1>to ride a horse for some John Wayne movie, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And he said at one point they came, they were close,

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<v Speaker 1>and they came ride into training camp in Thousand Oaks

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<v Speaker 1>on their horses, and uh, he had a rifle that

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<v Speaker 1>John Wayne gave him, right, and it was like a

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<v Speaker 1>real not a replica. It was a real deal. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's got it in you know, this case and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>He had saddles on these wooden horses and it was amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>just absolutely amazing. And he was he's a one, one

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<v Speaker 1>of a kind. I'm sorry, that's all right. That's good stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So that does it for week one of

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<v Speaker 1>OTA's no telling what Mickey will have on his legal

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