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Speaker 1: All right, we got your brand new episode to kick

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Speaker 1: off the week. Welcome to the Brook and Jeffrey Second

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Speaker 1: Date Update Podcast. And this is just a prime example

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Speaker 1: of overthinking something, you know, accepting a little too literally

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Speaker 1: and letting it live rent free in your head. It

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Speaker 1: really ruined his whole date. But you're gonna hear what

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Speaker 1: that is in just a second. And we always love

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Speaker 1: to highlight you, yes, and today we are gonna highlight

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Speaker 1: new begin who said love from Ethiopia Alexis stays strong

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Speaker 1: being surrounded by old people.

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Speaker 2: They mean us?

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Speaker 3: No, WHOA?

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Speaker 2: I hate that?

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Speaker 1: Okay, is because you've been volunteering at a senior center.

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Speaker 2: That's what they're It's about my personal life. Yeah, don't

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Speaker 2: worry Brook. All right, let's get this new episode started

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning Second Date Updates.

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Speaker 4: If your dating life isn't going well, Let's say you've

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Speaker 4: been single for more than a year. You've been on

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Speaker 4: a dozen different first dates, but not many seconds. Where

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Speaker 4: do you go? Who do you talk to for advice?

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Speaker 2: I hope you're saying us definitely not.

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Speaker 4: Us, not first anyways. I mean we're more of a

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Speaker 4: last resort.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Good, boy, if you hit rock bottom, open up the

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Speaker 4: door to the basement and find us down there. That's

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Speaker 4: exactly what our listener Anthony decided long before he came

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Speaker 4: to us. He went to his friend seeking advice first.

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Speaker 4: So I'm curious to learn more about it, Anthony. Welcome

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the lowest point of your dating career, Anthony.

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Speaker 2: We are so glad to be part of it.

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Speaker 4: That means it feels great. The only place for you

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Speaker 4: to go is up from here. All right, that's the

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Speaker 4: good news. But let's start with hearing about your love

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Speaker 4: life because you said you've been struggling a little bit lately.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have not had a lot of success with

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I asked a female friend of mine for some honest feedback.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's good. At least it wasn't a guy no.

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Speaker 2: But are you ready for the answer? That's always the question.

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Speaker 4: Because that female feedback is brutal.

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Speaker 2: If you ask for honesty, you're going to get it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what did your friends say?

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Speaker 3: Well, we even did a pretend date during her work

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Speaker 4: Oh, but that's kind of smart.

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Speaker 2: You like, role played that you were on a first

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Speaker 3: Yeah, smart, you know, we tried to do our best

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Speaker 3: to recreate the real thing.

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Speaker 4: That's okay, Like, now you're giving her the context of

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Speaker 4: what you're actually like on a date.

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Speaker 2: So that's a good friend.

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Speaker 4: Someone willing to practice dating with you and kiss you

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Speaker 4: even that's.

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Speaker 3: I want to know what her review was, Yeah, it

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Speaker 3: was pretty positive, okay, But afterwards she did mention a

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Speaker 3: couple of things. All right, She said, I lick my

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Speaker 1: That's interesting. I could see that being like a weird

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Speaker 4: Totally. But at the same time, it means that she

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Speaker 3: That's a pretty good point.

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Speaker 2: So you lick your lips too much?

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Speaker 3: I do? I do. I didn't even realize that. And

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Speaker 3: apparently I use my hands too much?

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Speaker 2: Is that a thing? You can use your hands too much?

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Speaker 2: Like when you talk as I do? Like, we don't

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Speaker 3: Too?

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Speaker 4: Animated when you talk?

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's a totally different problem. So you got all

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Speaker 3: Well, I went on a date and I'm not sure

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Speaker 4: Okay, before we get too into the details. What's the

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Speaker 3: Oh? Her name is Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Okay, where'd you meet her?

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Speaker 3: I met her off of the app.

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Speaker 1: All right, okay, And it doesn't sound like you're having

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never had problems getting the first date. It's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, or something you're doing on the date. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 4: So run us through how the date went.

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Speaker 3: Well. I took her to a wine bar.

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Speaker 2: You good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was trying to be very body conscious.

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Speaker 4: Uh what does that mean?

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Speaker 3: You know, just based on the feedback I got from

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Speaker 4: About the lip licking and handslay.

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Speaker 2: Got the driest lips on the It makes mind thinking

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Speaker 4: How are you body conscious about that stuff?

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Speaker 3: Well? I was very conscious about not licking my lips.

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Speaker 3: I even asked for a straw with my wine.

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Speaker 4: Uh. You did you think about bringing chapstick, because that

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Speaker 4: Once you put it on, then you're like, okay, I'm better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah I should have.

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Speaker 3: I should have thought about that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, did you helps?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you actually put a straw in a wine

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was also keeping my hands down at my side,

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Speaker 2: Sipped it chocolate milk.

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Speaker 3: No, I didn't knock it over, but I don't know

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Speaker 2: Did you tell her why or no?

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Speaker 3: No, I didn't tell her why. I did ask her

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Speaker 4: You had her flag down.

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Speaker 1: Did you tell your friend that this is what you did?

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Speaker 1: She would be mortified.

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Speaker 2: I think if this is how you took the advice.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I was just trying to take the notes that

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Speaker 2: I know, it's sweet.

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Speaker 1: It's sweet that you're trying and you're trying to improve

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Speaker 4: And that's the thing. Whenever you're trying to fix something,

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Speaker 4: Do you feel like maybe that's what happened.

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Speaker 3: I definitely think I went too far the other way.

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Speaker 3: I even gave her a no armed hug, which I'm

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Speaker 3: sure was awkward.

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Speaker 1: It's you rubbed your chest up against her shoulder.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it basically in.

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Speaker 4: Your defense, I'm sure it was the best no armed

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Speaker 2: Does she hug you back?

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Speaker 3: She did, but she kind of didn't know what to do.

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Speaker 4: Oh so the feeling is mutual?

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Speaker 3: Then okay, Yeah, it was not the kind of bump

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Speaker 4: So what's happened since? Because my guess is you're not

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Speaker 4: that's the only problem.

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Speaker 3: I just keep my phone down at my side when

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Speaker 3: I do my texting, so I'm not waving them around.

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Speaker 1: You're still practicing this no hand thing.

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Speaker 5: No, I was.

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Speaker 3: I was joking with that, Okay, the humor is on points.

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Speaker 4: So how long has it been since your no handwine date.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's been over a week and I haven't heard

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Speaker 6: Need to redo.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a sweet reason. I think if you

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Speaker 3: But maybe she didn't notice. Maybe it was something else

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Speaker 4: True, could be another thing that you have to work

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Speaker 4: on in your personal dating life. But we're gonna find

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Speaker 2: It, chopstick amedia, don't do it.

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Speaker 4: It's not sexy. We're gonna be a sexy edition of

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Speaker 4: the second Date update right after this hold on Brooke

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Speaker 2: Second Date Updates.

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Speaker 4: You've heard of bear hugs, side hugs, triple person sandwich hugs,

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Speaker 4: but have you ever heard of a no armed hug. Well,

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Speaker 4: now you have, because our listener Anthony may have invented

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Speaker 1: It sounds kind of painful depending on how you know,

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Speaker 4: But he did it because one of his female friends

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Speaker 4: told him that he ends to use his hands too

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Speaker 4: much whenever he talks and interacts, so Anthony was trying

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Speaker 2: He definitely went to the extreme.

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Speaker 4: Yes, tried to use his hands as little as possible.

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Speaker 4: But most horrifying for Brooke was when he used a

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, he's still no hands, still no hands yet.

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Speaker 1: I can't even believe you've got a wine bar that

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Speaker 4: A good point, but he did that because he was

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Speaker 4: also told that he licks his lips too much whenever

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Speaker 4: licking his lips the entire time. He's worried he may

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Speaker 4: have overdone it, but he's brave enough to come on

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Speaker 4: the show and admit his mistakes. And you should be

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Speaker 4: proud of that, Anthony.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, guys. I was thinking about it and I

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Speaker 3: think it's okay if you tell her about all of

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Speaker 3: the reasons why I was doing all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Okay, oh, okay. I think that's a really good idea, Anthony.

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Speaker 1: I think that it shows that you're a person who's

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Speaker 1: open to constructive criticism, that you're willing to change. Like,

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Speaker 1: I think it's all positive for you.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys telling her. I just I'm not

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Speaker 4: Hell, neither are we. So this is going to be

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Speaker 4: a disaster. Here we go. I'm gonna use my hands

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Speaker 4: to dial Amanda's phone number, dude something. That's all the

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Speaker 4: handplay that we'll get for today. And here we go. Hello, Hey,

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Speaker 4: are we speaking to Amanda?

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Speaker 5: Yes, this is Amanda.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Amanda. You're on a radio show right now. There's

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey in the morning. Good morning.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, did I win something?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 4: You should have called us back in the nineteen eighties.

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Speaker 4: But now we're doing a segment called a second Date Update. Okay,

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Speaker 4: if you haven't heard that before, it's where one of

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I went on a date with Anthony, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean kinda okay, Okay, Well, we figured there must

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Speaker 5: Gotcha, Okay, and he does have a thought about maybe

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think he was great, Like the conversation

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I just thought that it was kind of strange,

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Speaker 1: You know, I would have assumed because I read a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, dirty wine glasses does explain a lot of brooks

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 5: I didn't ask though.

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Speaker 3: I didn't ask him about it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you get that Oki flavor if it's all

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean. And then also, just like his texts,

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Speaker 5: It, but I just I've used chat GPT enough.

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Speaker 1: It does periods after every sentence, and you talk loud.

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Speaker 2: Via chat GPT and they're so cheesy and awful.

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Speaker 4: So you're upset because you think that he's been using

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, I'm not upset, but I'm just like

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Speaker 5: AI boyfriend. You can, you can order those actually, but

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Speaker 5: I don't know that.

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Speaker 2: That's really funny. I mean, I would we talk to him.

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Speaker 1: It's really funny that you say that, because he did

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Speaker 1: mention before we called you that he wasn't very good

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Speaker 4: You know, let's give them a chance to try to

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Speaker 4: line of this phone call waiting to jump in and

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, Hey, hey Amanda, look at that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are so nice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I just feel bad because I feel like I'm I

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Speaker 5: just I don't I feel bad that I said that.

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Speaker 3: But it's true, Well is it true?

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Speaker 4: We don't know that.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to deny it, but there is an explanation.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: I have, but you're not going to believe this. I

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Speaker 3: a way, those are my words.

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Speaker 2: No way has it been around for a long time.

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Speaker 2: This is Chad chat GPT, Anthony.

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Speaker 1: CHATGBT works by taking all everything on the Internet essentially

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Speaker 4: Did you just event like a part of the technology

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I did.

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Speaker 6: I did help invent it, and I so your justification

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Speaker 6: is that because you helped do the codes for chat GPT,

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Speaker 3: I mean essentially, Yes, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't you be so rich? Yes?

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Speaker 4: How do we know he's not rich?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He's calling us for help, like, don't don't listen to us.

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Speaker 1: Don't real rich people like have assistance to do stuff?

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Speaker 4: And Anthony, how do you feel that Brooke just insinuated

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Speaker 2: I didn't say broke.

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Speaker 1: They're somewhere in between, Jeff, you know you're not like

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Speaker 1: I invented chat GPT rich.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Anthony, feel free to respond.

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Speaker 3: I can neither confirm nor deny, but I can at

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Speaker 3: least say that I have not had luck with second dates,

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Speaker 3: and that's why I came to you.

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 1: Don't women throw yourselves themselves at you and they learn

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Speaker 1: like that you're the founder, like one of the founding

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Speaker 3: I don't normally tell people that because they never believe me.

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Speaker 1: Girls google every guy's name they go out.

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Speaker 4: They'll find out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I have no reason not to believe you.

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Speaker 4: More about Amanda, Amanda, what do you think? Hearing that?

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Speaker 4: Good point?

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Speaker 5: I mean I'm also having trouble believing it.

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Speaker 4: You don't think he's.

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Speaker 1: One of those like gambles that you want to take right, Like,

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Speaker 1: what's the worst that could happen.

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Speaker 2: Is chat GBT if he's a founder of tat does.

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Speaker 4: It even change anything? Like how patty are we? If

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Speaker 1: I don't even date for money and a billionaire changes everything?

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Speaker 3: Okay, listen, I never said I was a billionaire, and

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Speaker 3: you guys are making this all about money, and that's

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Speaker 4: Does she like you for you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I did like the one date that was like okay, okay.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's real Anthony face to face.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he didn't ask me to split the bill,

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Speaker 4: Don't think that means either. Okay, he's got he's got

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's enough here that you'd want to

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, do a little investigation to find out what he

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Speaker 4: him one more time, we would pay for that date, Amanda.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm definitely going to google him to see

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Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't work on Google, so I don't know

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Speaker 2: Trust them, not trust kay AI mode.

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Speaker 4: But you did. You did agree to another date, so

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Speaker 4: this is successful. Anthony.

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Speaker 2: Oh maybe AI stands for Anthony Intelligence.

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Speaker 4: Anthony? Is that true?

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Speaker 3: I connect her confirmed?

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Speaker 5: Nor.

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Speaker 3: I do want to confirm though, that I don't actually

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah that's true. Yeah, we never explained that to her, Anthony, and.

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Speaker 4: She actually didn't mind. I mean she noticed.

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Speaker 3: Well we can talk about all that on our next date.

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Speaker 3: It'll it'll be a fun story.

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Speaker 4: And just wait till you see what he can do

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Speaker 3: Interesting, Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's funny that you say rich people don't

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Speaker 4: enough for you?

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Speaker 1: Alexis, I wasn't here, so it's been a long time

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Speaker 1: because we don't know that they still listen. And it

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Speaker 4: Oh, okay, kids, you don't count.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: I guess you're right.

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Speaker 1: I got hung up on the money aspect of it,

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Speaker 1: which is not something I typically do you do?

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Speaker 4: And how dare you shame all of our billionaire listeners

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Speaker 4: all over the world. I want them to know that, hey,

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Speaker 4: I see you and I am available for whatever. Wherever

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Speaker 4: Okays are listed on my blog, you will find I

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Speaker 1: Jeff wants a millionaire dot com billionaire.

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Speaker 4: Overall, though, I will say I am happy that Anthony

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Speaker 4: the girl that he's some sort of AI mogul, obviously

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Speaker 4: it works. So to Shay, Anthony, well done.

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Speaker 2: I just want an update so I can find out

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Speaker 4: Me too, you know, because you can't ask chat GPT

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Speaker 4: who knows what that's going to be, can do some

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Speaker 4: sleuthing for us and tell us if they can find

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Speaker 4: an Anthony who created a code.

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Speaker 1: Yes, AI always lies to you, that's true.

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Speaker 4: And while you're doing your research, go research our show.

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Speaker 4: Wherever you get your podcasts, We're available Apple, Spotify, wherever

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Speaker 4: you find them. Just look up Brook and Jeffrey