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Speaker 1: All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show Years in

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Speaker 2: Up Doug Gottlieb Show in the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in. We got a lot

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Speaker 2: to get to, uh in this yere podcast. But I

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Speaker 2: want to start with a topic that I wanted to

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Speaker 2: give a couple of days before we brought it up,

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Speaker 2: and then I did think that it would be appropriate

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Speaker 2: I went to the game Monday night and there was

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Speaker 2: a moment of silence for marshawn neland yeah, and Marshaw

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Speaker 2: Niland sent, you know, concerning text messages prior to his

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Speaker 2: what's what's being reported as a suicide? And I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I guess I just Jason, You're somebody who I respect.

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Speaker 2: We don't always we don't always agree on things, but

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Speaker 2: I think it's you're great for an interesting discussion. So

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Speaker 2: here's the interesting discussion. I don't think, I know, there's

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Speaker 2: no intent to encourage anybody to commit suicide, not that

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Speaker 2: stupid right, no intent at all. And I'd like to

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Speaker 2: think that the moments of silence the mentions of helplines,

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Speaker 2: all the little things that people are doing are because

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Speaker 2: they legitimately care about other human beings and they don't

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Speaker 2: want anybody to go through this sadness where you're mourning

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Speaker 2: the death of somebody who's so early in life, has

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Speaker 2: so much looked forward to, and they found a permanent

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Speaker 2: solution for what likely was the temporary problem. On the

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Speaker 2: other hand, I do understand the NFL saying, hey, look,

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Speaker 2: this is significant. We have to show that we care

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Speaker 2: for our players, because if we don't show for Marshawn

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Speaker 2: neland what happens, you know what happens to some of these.

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Speaker 2: Of course we have to do this. I guess this

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Speaker 2: is where it's hard, right because suicide rates are high.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they're an all time high, but

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Speaker 2: there are way more opportunities for people to get help.

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Speaker 2: So does it actually help people to mention here's where

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Speaker 2: you can get help. Whereas do we honestly think anybody

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Speaker 2: team played football. Jason, what do you think of how

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Speaker 2: we've handled Marshaw Neland's suicide?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting question. I wanted to get some of the

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Speaker 3: facts straight, so I just typed into chat GBT. Right,

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Speaker 3: it looks like suicide rates are up considerably since the pandemic,

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Speaker 3: and I guess, I guess how they handled the suicide.

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Speaker 3: How the NFL is handling the suicide. I think in

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Speaker 3: mental health in general, I think they're in They're in

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Speaker 3: how to do it. And there is the elephant in

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Speaker 3: the room that CTE could be the cause of any

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Speaker 3: is kind of caught here. Do we acknowledge serious mental

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Speaker 3: health issues and suicide as it relates to that. Do

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Speaker 3: last ten years and ignore that CTE is a thing?

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's I think like most things that the

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Speaker 2: I I don't know, if you're right, it doesn't really

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Speaker 2: which is what most people want to do. All right,

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Speaker 2: here's the next question, and maybe this is Sam you

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Speaker 2: like it's tragic that he killed himself? Is it a tragedy?

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Speaker 2: But again, I'm not trying to sound harsh, but I

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Speaker 2: of those our brains are working, are performing properly. But

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Sam?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, this is touchy.

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Speaker 4: You have to you absolutely have to acknowledge their passing

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Speaker 4: and it is tragic. But did he he had like

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Speaker 4: a he had an interaction with the police before this happened,

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Speaker 4: I'm not wrong any of this, but like sometimes people

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Speaker 4: or they're just they have real real.

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Speaker 2: They came in on a welfare they became a welfare check. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So he sounded up some group texts that are concerning

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Speaker 2: probably mental health. Their group text seem to be saying goodbye.

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Speaker 2: And he made a statement about not wanting to go

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: This kind of it just sort of reminds me of

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Speaker 4: the immense pressure that sometimes students that really elite universities

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Speaker 4: it'll get better. You can make it better for yourself

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Speaker 4: if you you know, if you just waited out like

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Speaker 4: people are impulsive and they make decisions just based on

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Speaker 4: their emotions that they're feeling. Like in the last forty

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Speaker 4: I was like why because they felt all this pressure

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.

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Speaker 3: Two weeks ago, Doug Martin, former running back, had an

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Speaker 3: for Doug Martin? What differentiates Doug Martin, who I'm guessing

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Speaker 2: He wasn't I guess because he wasn't a current player

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Speaker 2: I get it right. Keena was He was pulled over

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Speaker 2: his car after evading evading authorities and then fled, fled,

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Speaker 2: I guess the only thing would be he's a current

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he had just been in the news for

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Speaker 3: It's perplexing.

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Speaker 4: Like I again speaking about whether whether it's Neeland or

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Speaker 4: to wait for these details. But some people just have

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Speaker 4: a real hard time handling like the darkest moments in

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Speaker 3: So you're saying that you sat through a moment of

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Speaker 3: the suicide hot Lawn hotline. Is that what that was

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Speaker 3: at the stadium? Yes, okay, because I think that that

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Speaker 3: that's probably the answer, right. I don't think that you're

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Speaker 3: I mean of Neland as much as you're bringing awareness

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Speaker 2: Anybody not know that their suicide prevention lines out there?

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Speaker 2: And do you call that line if your brain is acting,

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Speaker 2: you know, it is so depressed and when you're feeling

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's the whole conundrum, right, you're depressed,

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Speaker 2: Right, And the other part too, it is that we

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Speaker 4: Dealing with depression is especially you know, especially cumbersome or

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Speaker 4: nice kid, always seemed very happy, very chipper, was a

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Speaker 4: just like why, you just don't understand, because a lot

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Speaker 4: sometimes chemical depression is you can't it's an inexplicable you know,

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I look, I was when I was in Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: I most deeply depressed and couldn't kind of pull myself

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Speaker 2: just that's not something I've ever experienced in my life,

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Speaker 2: knock Wood. But it's a fascinating topic. And I just

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Speaker 2: that that can be translated to somebody, you know, is

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Speaker 2: imagine how people really feel about you. You should not

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Speaker 2: do this. I don't know, it's a there's no right answer.

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Speaker 2: I just thought it was worthy of a discussion. But

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Speaker 2: I thought that was worthy of a discussion, you know,

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Speaker 2: in a time a little bit after it took place,

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Speaker 2: which was today, I thought was aff air to breathe.

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Speaker 6: What this guy's hubris or ego or owned basketball malfunction

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Speaker 6: We were prepared for that. But if you were a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, it's become an awful trade because Anthony Davis

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Speaker 2: also point out it's incredibly unfair to UH to judge

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Speaker 2: it should be a former old team. This is this

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Speaker 2: what Nick is really relating. Here's Colin Cowhert talking about

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Speaker 7: He proves that young talented quarterbacks, even super hyper talented quarterbacks,

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Speaker 7: The first thing he addresses, we got to get better

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Speaker 3: You not run backwards?

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Speaker 7: I want to eliminate the negative plays and the pre

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Speaker 7: But Caleb was not terrible last year. He was wildly flashy.

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Speaker 7: Twenty touchdown, six picks. It's all the little stuff that

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Speaker 7: that's innate, that's natural. That's gonna come Caleb's success this

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Speaker 2: So Colin doesn't think the mayor it would work seven

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Speaker 1: I say. Be sure to catch live editions of The

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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Let's find out who what is annoying Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying, Hey, Doug.

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Speaker 3: Aaron gwen has been a feature on this segment for

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Speaker 3: the last few weeks, and it's because he has this

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Speaker 3: weird relationship with the New York media. Remember a couple

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Speaker 3: On Tuesday, Rich Samini reported in the morning that Garrett

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Speaker 8: I'm going to to pass on talking about injuries since

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Speaker 8: you're Rich, He's not here, has all the answers, so

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Speaker 8: So I go right into this air game as Rich, Well,

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Speaker 8: I'm telling you that's Rich. You not here, Well you

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Speaker 8: better call him. No disrespect to you or Rich, but

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Speaker 8: you guys have been here. You guys have been hearing

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Speaker 3: I just think that his I think in his mind

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Speaker 2: Nope? Does that work unless all the way it works

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Speaker 3: Aj Brown, another guy who's been in this segment, he

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Speaker 3: said something pretty shitty on a what do you call

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, which I mean Twitch is a stream you

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Speaker 3: Brown telling livestream audience that if you have him in Fantasy,

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Speaker 3: The trade deadline came and went, and he stayed an eagle.

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Speaker 3: who doesn't isn't comfortable with young black men making a

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Speaker 3: lot of money. And that's just it. It's very predictable.

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Speaker 3: But you coach a college team, I don't know what

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Speaker 3: percentage of your team is black. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: the overall percentage of college football players is that are

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Speaker 3: black versus white. Probably close to fifty to fifty, maybe

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Speaker 3: it's maybe it's a ratio of sixty forty. I do

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Speaker 3: know that Eli Manning makes a shit load of money

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Speaker 3: in NIL and he's not black. Most of the quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: that are white in Major five conferences are making significant

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Speaker 3: amount of money. So to make this a racial thing

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Speaker 3: is so predictable and annoying.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree with you more, couldn't agree with you more

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Speaker 2: anybody else?

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Speaker 3: No Trump, AJ Brown and Aaron GWe.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna make it. I'll make it. I'll

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Speaker 2: make it Donald Trump, and just all the ways in

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Speaker 2: which it becomes something racial, what it does not have

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Speaker 2: to be.

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Speaker 3: Why are we doing this.

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Speaker 1: Because we can?

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Speaker 3: Raymond Green had a succinct take about the MAVs firing

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Speaker 3: Nico Harrison.

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Speaker 10: Everybody was shitting on Luca last year. Now Luca's playing

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Speaker 10: Green and everybody. I want to take that opportunity to

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Speaker 10: ship on Nico because Dallas is playing bad. But it's

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Speaker 10: not apples to apples. The team that he constructed to

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Speaker 10: be out there isn't out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. I mean happens in any of

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Speaker 2: these bad years, That's generally what happens. Why can't play

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Speaker 2: it for you? Because we can't? Uh, who would who

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Speaker 2: would have thought? Who would have thought that? Of all

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Speaker 2: the guys to be the voice of reason, that's who

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Speaker 2: is the voice of reason? Raymond Green, Raymond Green, and

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Speaker 2: that's boys boys talking about with Nico Harrison's like you

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Speaker 2: can judge me and say, hey, you should have known

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Speaker 2: if you want to say that Anthony Davis was liking

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Speaker 2: to get hurt. Okay, Kyrie, you know he's massively injury

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Speaker 2: prone but had n't been hurt, and he tears his

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Speaker 2: ACL I'm with you. Nobody wants reality. They just want

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Speaker 2: to feed the fans, so they're saytiated. That's the end

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