Speaker 1: All right, Happy Friday, glad you're with us. Right down
Speaker 1: our toll free telephone number. It's eight one hundred and
Speaker 1: nine four one sean you want to be a part
Speaker 1: of the program. Oh, we got more bad news if
Speaker 1: you're a Democrat. October job growth far exceeds expectations. The
Speaker 1: unemployment rate for African Americans down to another record low.
Speaker 1: Whoopsie Daisy, a little problem on our way to the
Speaker 1: talking down of the economy. I want to recession Bill
Speaker 1: maher prayer for twenty twenty one hundred and twenty eight
Speaker 1: thousand jobs added last month. That topped expectations all by itself.
Speaker 1: Upward revisions of the prior two months added another of
Speaker 1: ninety five thousand jobs, for a grand total of two
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three thousand new jobs added to the economy.
Speaker 1: And what everybody was worried about was the GM strike,
Speaker 1: which is a huge drag on both job growth growth
Speaker 1: and GDP. I keep telling everybody we need these jobs.
Speaker 1: These guys got to look unions and these companies have
Speaker 1: got to work in tandem here so that these we
Speaker 1: don't want the manufacturers leaving again, and we don't want
Speaker 1: the jobs going to other countries again, and you know,
Speaker 1: they get into these well pissing matches for lack of
Speaker 1: a better term, and it goes back and forth. The
Speaker 1: answer is simple, is that performance profit sharing is the answer.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, obviously, have you know your your standard
Speaker 1: salary benefits whatever that happens to be. And then the
Speaker 1: next step is, Okay, everybody has a vested interest in
Speaker 1: kicking butt and doing well, and if you do that,
Speaker 1: that would that would be it anyway, So they were
Speaker 1: worried about that, but obviously not the drag that everybody
Speaker 1: thought it would be. Um. But that, of course, there
Speaker 1: is bad news if you're a Democrat because oh, you know,
Speaker 1: good news for the for the treat for the economy,
Speaker 1: bad news for them. You know, I spent a lot
Speaker 1: of time and this has actually now been made public,
Speaker 1: apparently the internal polls of the Republican Party that they've had.
Speaker 1: But I spent time on the phones with a couple
Speaker 1: of poster friends of mine and they're confirming the same thing.
Speaker 1: This is now heading south, and it's gonna head south
Speaker 1: very quickly. And I predict the American people they're rightly
Speaker 1: conflating three years of lying conspiracy theories hoax, four separate investigations,
Speaker 1: Trump Russia collusion, FBI, House Intel, Senate, Bipartisan Committee, Mueller Report,
Speaker 1: and then now we got Ukraine interference. And they are
Speaker 1: rightly saying, you know what, we're sick of the lies,
Speaker 1: We're sick of the conspiracies, were sick of you just
Speaker 1: we get it. You hate Donald Trump, go beat them.
Speaker 1: But they even admit, what's the congressman's name, al Green
Speaker 1: or whatever his name is, we better impeach him because
Speaker 1: God knows we're not going to be able to beat
Speaker 1: the guy. Are you concerned that impeachment talk may actually
Speaker 1: help the president's reelection. I'm concerned that if we don't
Speaker 1: impeach this president, he will get reelected. Yeah. And one
Speaker 1: of the two, the van whatever his name is, guy
Speaker 1: from New Jersey congressman, one of the two that voted
Speaker 1: against this hack resolution that was only meant to as
Speaker 1: like a propaganda piece present to the American people the
Speaker 1: appearance of fairness and as anything but because the almighty
Speaker 1: and all powerful, compromise corrupt, coward, congenital liar Adam Schiff,
Speaker 1: he gets to make any rule he wants. Republicans have
Speaker 1: the right to ask for this. They have the right
Speaker 1: to ask for that, they have the right to ask. Okay,
Speaker 1: they had the right to ask before saying that they
Speaker 1: have the right to ask. Does it make it any
Speaker 1: less illegitimate and lacking due process because that it who
Speaker 1: is compromised and a fact witness in the case gets
Speaker 1: to override anybody. He is the judge, jury, the executioner
Speaker 1: all in one, and he's been the biggest liar. We've
Speaker 1: got the evidence, all the evidence. See evidence there, Russia collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia.
Speaker 1: So now people see the president has done a good
Speaker 1: job by any measure a president should be able to
Speaker 1: go after a first term in re election. Where one
Speaker 1: year and two days away now from the next election
Speaker 1: November third, twenty twenty, am I right on that lender,
Speaker 1: You can chuck. That is election day, that is one
Speaker 1: year and two days from today, and the American people
Speaker 1: are going to ultimately make a judgment on the job
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump has done as president. Now there's somebody,
Speaker 1: you know, without Trumpism and trump Heism and Donald Trump
Speaker 1: being Trump, he'd be running away by every metric and
Speaker 1: it would be a landslide. It's like saying, yeah, we
Speaker 1: want you to now now that you've you've made all
Speaker 1: these games being Trump, we want you to stop. We
Speaker 1: want you to take the switch in your mind and
Speaker 1: turn it off and stop being the fighter that let's see,
Speaker 1: kept his promises on judges and tax cuts and bureaucracy
Speaker 1: and cutting the bureaucracy and finding the way finally to
Speaker 1: build the wall, which is going to be a big, big,
Speaker 1: big issue if he builds that wall. And of course
Speaker 1: trade deals that helps American workers with Canada, Japan and
Speaker 1: Mexico and Western European allies and Japan, and even half
Speaker 1: a deal with China. You know, he's kept all those promises,
Speaker 1: and the president he has more to do and what
Speaker 1: he's building up our defenses again. And in the meantime,
Speaker 1: he also killed Baghdaddy, the world's number one most brutal
Speaker 1: evil terrorists on the face of the earth. And he's
Speaker 1: got his number two and his spokesperson and three others
Speaker 1: in the process. Well, he won't get credit from the
Speaker 1: mob either on any of these points. It's never been
Speaker 1: this corrupt, It's never been this abusively obnoxiously biased. I mean,
Speaker 1: the media can't contain themselves. And my hope a year
Speaker 1: in two days from now is when you tune in
Speaker 1: non election night and you're watching, probably the exam pose
Speaker 1: will come in about five fifteen Eastern disaster. President Trump
Speaker 1: has been beaten. All right, Let's see because if you
Speaker 1: tune in then six o'clock when the coverage begins Eastern
Speaker 1: time and everywhere, if all the anchors are giddy because
Speaker 1: the eggs and poles show that the president lost, you
Speaker 1: know what, the eggs of pole said, We will have
Speaker 1: told you anyway that day beforehand, because I always you're
Speaker 1: not supposed to talk about it, but I always do.
Speaker 1: I don't care. The internal pole leading and my posters
Speaker 1: are telling me and that they're in sync together that
Speaker 1: this effort, this secret lack of due process, Soviet style,
Speaker 1: never ending impeachment, ipeachment, impeachment, impeachment, inpeachment and madness, is
Speaker 1: now driving the Democratic Party off a cliff. And when
Speaker 1: you think about it, what have they done? They can't
Speaker 1: name a single accomplishment in all this time because they
Speaker 1: haven't accomplished anything, And so what it should now serve
Speaker 1: as an admonition and warning. Now they're too stupid probably
Speaker 1: to listen. They probably have polsters they've hired that will
Speaker 1: tell them what they want to hear. I've never believed,
Speaker 1: and I believe to this day nobody should believe. I
Speaker 1: don't think Donald Trump will ever pull like any conventional
Speaker 1: establishment politician, because he's not one. There's this Trump factor,
Speaker 1: if you will, which is, you know what, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to tell you. I just voted for him, but
Speaker 1: you can go shove it. That kind of exists out there.
Speaker 1: Most people see that. This is also a lot deeper
Speaker 1: than Trump. I mean, long after Donald Trump, let's say,
Speaker 1: serves his two terms, we the people will still be
Speaker 1: here that voted for him. We the people, the people
Speaker 1: that showed up at his rallies, is still gonna be here.
Speaker 1: We smelly Walmart Trump supporting voters and irredeemable deplorables that
Speaker 1: cling to God, guns, Bibles and our faith and our
Speaker 1: religion and belief in God. Yeah, we're still going to
Speaker 1: be here because He's tapped into something that's real. And
Speaker 1: what's been real is people are fed up. They're fed
Speaker 1: up with the swamp, the sewer, the corruption, the smoke
Speaker 1: filled room, back deep door dealing crap. Anyway, the Republicans
Speaker 1: and my polling guys tell me and assure me seventeen
Speaker 1: target states from some approval ratings up and he's at
Speaker 1: an all time high favorability among Republicans. That's good in
Speaker 1: case you get the wobbly Republicans in the Senate, which
Speaker 1: I'm sure there'll be a few. I don't think Mitt
Speaker 1: Romney will ever get over that he lost running for president.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter how unfair of the process is. I mean,
Speaker 1: he just he's had it out for Trump, and there's
Speaker 1: going to continue to have it out for Trump except
Speaker 1: when he accepts accepts his endorsement when he's running, of course,
Speaker 1: and there's a five there's a massive increase in the
Speaker 1: number of Americans that now would like to see Joe
Speaker 1: and Hunter Biden investigated. Now that's interesting to me because
Speaker 1: you notice how the mob in the media, they've just
Speaker 1: dismissed that as ad that's just a conspiracy theory, conspira nobody.
Speaker 1: He's never done anything wrong, there's nothing. Everybody agrees, there's
Speaker 1: no evidence that there's any wrong doing. There's none. No,
Speaker 1: that's Hannity on Fox. Don't believe Hannity on Fox. Come on,
Speaker 1: Hannity is a conservative. You can't believe anything he says.
Speaker 1: The President took every opportunity to spread unsubstantiated claims and
Speaker 1: attack his political enemies. Trump is referring to unfounded allegations
Speaker 1: that his vice president Biden tried to protect his son
Speaker 1: by stopping an investigation into the Ukrainian company that his
Speaker 1: son worked for. Biden and his son have denied all wrongdoing,
Speaker 1: and there is no evidence of any and there's no
Speaker 1: evidence either Biden did anything wrong. But there's been no
Speaker 1: evidence of any wrongdoing. But there's there has been he uncovered,
Speaker 1: no evidence, no evidence, no evidence, no evidence of wrongdoing
Speaker 1: by Biden. Rudy Giuliani claims without proof, unsubstantiated, unsubstantiated, unfounded,
Speaker 1: unfounded accusations against Biden. Hunter Biden did not violate anything,
Speaker 1: and there's no evidence Biden did anything wrong. And the
Speaker 1: President just did interrupt here because we can go on forever.
Speaker 1: Likes It's sort of like the two minutes everyone loves
Speaker 1: the montage with you know, you hear the typing, the date,
Speaker 1: and you all we've heard is impeachment since two days
Speaker 1: after the president. There's no evidence, no evidence, no evidence,
Speaker 1: no manufactured, manufactured, manufact stormy stormy stormy stormy slllos impeach impeaching,
Speaker 1: being peach like the a bunch of robots. But now people,
Speaker 1: you know, if there's no evidence, then you have to
Speaker 1: believe the following that Joe Biden bragging on tape about
Speaker 1: his quid pro quote, how he shook down Ukraine and
Speaker 1: bragged about it that I told him he got six hours,
Speaker 1: six hours. He said, you got six at fire him
Speaker 1: six hours, or you're not getting the billion you fire.
Speaker 1: I mean you get the billion. You don't fire him,
Speaker 1: You're not getting the billion. That's called the quid pro quote,
Speaker 1: isn't it the very thing that's so outraged about. It's
Speaker 1: like they were so outraged about Russia, Russia, Russia, but
Speaker 1: not Hillary's dirty Russian Dacier. They didn't care about that.
Speaker 1: They care so much about foreign election interference. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: have a court in Ukraine admitting it, and you have
Speaker 1: political admitting it January eleven, twenty seventeen. And then of
Speaker 1: course then we find out, well, why would a vice
Speaker 1: president threaten and shake down a country to fire some
Speaker 1: stupid prosecutor. Oh, prosecutors investigating his son. He's not young,
Speaker 1: by the way, the kid's forty nine years old. And
Speaker 1: why would they investigate his son, because that dope went
Speaker 1: on Good Morning America confirmed everything we already knew. Do
Speaker 1: you have any experience in Ukraine? No energy, no oil,
Speaker 1: no gas, no. Why do you think they were paying
Speaker 1: you millions? I don't know. Maybe because it's your father,
Speaker 1: probably that's probably the reason. I'm thinking, yeah, maybe, possibly, yes.
Speaker 1: So now Americans not you see, I know, they live
Speaker 1: in their bubble, the media bubble, the DC bubble, the
Speaker 1: New York La San Francisco bubble. But the rest of
Speaker 1: us don't live in their distorted, twisted, ugly you know way.
Speaker 1: We're actually real Americans that shop at Walmart and power
Speaker 1: our heads and ask for God's forgiveness and blessings in
Speaker 1: life and our families. And yeah, we believe in the
Speaker 1: Second Amendment. And we're not irredeemable, deplorable people. Were actually
Speaker 1: real Americans that make the country great and make it
Speaker 1: run every day. The people that do most of the
Speaker 1: living and breathing and building and dying is George Bailey
Speaker 1: once famously said, And it's a wonderful life the ones
Speaker 1: they have contempt for. So anyway, it is what it is.
Speaker 1: But I'm guessing this backlash continues, and I'm guessing that
Speaker 1: this is not going to work out well for them.
Speaker 1: Time as we roll along, eight hundred and nine fold
Speaker 1: one sean and impeachment is not popular. And according to
Speaker 1: these polls in these states, so you've got a good economy,
Speaker 1: you've got these polls. Now, as we predicted, it's not
Speaker 1: going well. Americans Washington Examiner, Americans of every political stripe
Speaker 1: reacting to this corrupt you know, compromise, congenital liar shift,
Speaker 1: Pelosi pushed the railroad, the president and all these efforts
Speaker 1: now are boosting the GOP base everywhere around the country.
Speaker 1: I'm reading from the Washington Examiner. The longer this goes,
Speaker 1: we are seeing more and more voters shift to supporting
Speaker 1: the president, recognizing that this is a totally partisan endeavored
Speaker 1: by the Democrats. The thing is, and they laughed at
Speaker 1: the President saying, well, I'll well, I'll just read the
Speaker 1: transcript of fireside chat, which I thought was pretty funny
Speaker 1: on the President's part. And now that we know, look,
Speaker 1: we know enough about the whistleblower to know that the
Speaker 1: whistleblowers of partisan a whistleblower that was a holdover from
Speaker 1: the Obama era, a whistleblower that work for John Brennan,
Speaker 1: a whistleblower that had contact with Chiff's office. These are
Speaker 1: all real questions we need real answers to. I did
Speaker 1: notice an amusing story that the whistleblowers lawyer is threatening
Speaker 1: journalists and out there saying that there might be legal
Speaker 1: action against them. Our client is legally entitled to anonymity. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't actually think that's true. Now, I have not
Speaker 1: independently confirmed it myself. So I do what I always do.
Speaker 1: I believe in due process, assumption of presumption of innocence,
Speaker 1: so I we always wait. That's our standard operating procedure.
Speaker 1: But you know, that's the one that Paul Sperry mentioned
Speaker 1: in real our investigations is the one that everyone's talking about.
Speaker 1: They haven't seemed to have factored in yet that the
Speaker 1: ig report is real and it's here. It's when on
Speaker 1: the precipice we can now finally freaking taste it. Maybe
Speaker 1: we'll taste it before we have our Thanksgiving turkey. It's
Speaker 1: taken long enough, and then the Durham Report will come,
Speaker 1: which now has taken on greater significance being officially a
Speaker 1: criminal investigation, and that means subpoenas and that means competing
Speaker 1: grand juries and charges can be filed. All right, we'll continue.
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Speaker 1: There are people that we've gotten to know, Brian and
Speaker 1: Karen Holloway and about Linda. You can tell the story,
Speaker 1: you know, but Brian had a massive stroke, very very suddenly,
Speaker 1: and we are absolutely devastated for Karen. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: she's They were just dear friends of the show. They
Speaker 1: came up to every event we had for our advertisers.
Speaker 1: They're just amazing. It's so fun to be around time.
Speaker 1: And Brian is you know, Brian's larger than life. He
Speaker 1: had a cowboy hat to match that larger than life personality,
Speaker 1: cowboy boots. And you know, Karen was sort of the
Speaker 1: quiet and funny partner, and they were just awesome and
Speaker 1: just lovely, lovely people and obviously the stroke came very suddenly,
Speaker 1: and Karen and I were texting last night and I
Speaker 1: just said to her, in all truth, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: share it with you. I just said, I am so
Speaker 1: devastated for you. I am praying for you. My heartbreaks
Speaker 1: for you. And she was like, Linda, I literally am
Speaker 1: leaning on God because I just don't have the strength.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm going to do it without them.
Speaker 1: And I honestly just asked the audience to pray for Karen.
Speaker 1: You know, these people are awesome. They started a business
Speaker 1: from the ground up. It's a family business and her
Speaker 1: and Brian did it together, and they answered the phones,
Speaker 1: they talk to the customers, the listeners. You know, they're
Speaker 1: just awesome people. And we're just so sorry. There's such
Speaker 1: lovely people. I'm and yes, I echo all of your sentiments.
Speaker 1: So that's just devastating, you know, m I always say it,
Speaker 1: but when it happens, you know, it's like even losing
Speaker 1: a parent, Like I know, people out of sick parents
Speaker 1: and you have one, you know, you've had your dad's
Speaker 1: been sick a little bit lately, and I always say,
Speaker 1: just spend the time with your parents. But now you'll
Speaker 1: never regret it. You'll never regret it. You never regret it,
Speaker 1: because you know, my dad died six months after I
Speaker 1: started in Fox News now on my twenty fourth year,
Speaker 1: and my mom really not that long after, and you just,
Speaker 1: you know, you're just regret it. You regret you didn't
Speaker 1: spend the time. In my case, I was out traveling
Speaker 1: and working and traveling and working, and you know, living
Speaker 1: outside of where they lived. But they're just good people
Speaker 1: and you think back into their lives and how hard
Speaker 1: they work, and you know, things just happen. I don't
Speaker 1: know it. Loss is just one of those things. Is
Speaker 1: so painful. And Karen, if you're listening, we love Brian
Speaker 1: and we love you and we're thinking about you and
Speaker 1: praying for you today and your whole family. I know
Speaker 1: you're all devastated, and our thoughts and prayers remain with you.
Speaker 1: And everybody goes through this. The Road Less Travel starts
Speaker 1: with this line. It goes life is hard, life is difficult.
Speaker 1: You have to accept that part of life. Every there's
Speaker 1: not one person, and this transcend trust me, socioeconomics. I've
Speaker 1: been poor, poor, poor, and now yeah, I get paid
Speaker 1: a lot of money to get the crappied out of
Speaker 1: me by the media every day. But it's by the way,
Speaker 1: this is a funny story to that too. And but
Speaker 1: nobody escapes nobody. Nobody escapes life's hardness, Nobody escapes loss,
Speaker 1: nobody escapes pain, Nobody he just it is a part
Speaker 1: of what what I think is designed to mold our character. Now.
Speaker 1: I believe in God the Almighty. I believe in heaven
Speaker 1: and Earth, and I believe that there's a better place,
Speaker 1: and I believe that Heaven is real, to quote the book,
Speaker 1: Heaven is real, But it doesn't take away the pain.
Speaker 1: In moments like this. It hard, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: is what an election day is about. One year and
Speaker 1: in two days from today, it's about. You know that
Speaker 1: this is a choice election, unlike any we've had. You know,
Speaker 1: it's very hard, I know, for a lot of people
Speaker 1: to grasp and understand what it is that is driving
Speaker 1: this against Donald Trump the way they're driving it so hard.
Speaker 1: It is that he has touched a nerve an underbelly,
Speaker 1: a gross, disgusting, corrupt underbelly that is Washington, and even
Speaker 1: the Republicans that don't really like him, they're exposed to
Speaker 1: in this and that these swamp creatures have not done
Speaker 1: their job. They have not been servants of the people
Speaker 1: that this whole system has needed the shock and disruption
Speaker 1: that it's now experiencing. Americans did not go blindly in
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen and think, oh, they were electing or any
Speaker 1: establishment figure. You know, access Hollywood happened. How many weeks
Speaker 1: before the act? Was it two weeks? Three weeks before
Speaker 1: the election? American people factored in Donald Trump, the full
Speaker 1: on force of nature that he is character imperfect as
Speaker 1: he is against and weighed seriously against the same old
Speaker 1: swamp creatures. And nobody embodies that more of the culture
Speaker 1: of corruption than the Clintons. And to get there, he
Speaker 1: had to beat a lot of big name people, a
Speaker 1: lot of governors and a lot of senators, and a
Speaker 1: lot of people that had a lot more political experience.
Speaker 1: And he's resonating and in our lifetime we've never seen
Speaker 1: this political force of nature, I mean to an extent.
Speaker 1: Obama had a charisma about him. There was a movement
Speaker 1: with Obama. There was a I think it was more
Speaker 1: smoke and mirrors though, but it was more hope and
Speaker 1: change and yes we can and as and youth and
Speaker 1: slogans and bumper stickers, and nobody really wanted to dig
Speaker 1: deep into who he was and what his ideology was,
Speaker 1: his background as lack of experience and Acorn and community
Speaker 1: organizing and the impact of somebody twenty years and Reverend
Speaker 1: Rights g d America Church and Black liberation theology, and
Speaker 1: nobody could quite figure out the airs Endorn scandal. They're willing.
Speaker 1: People are willing to just kind of overlook a lot
Speaker 1: of it. By every measure, if we go by four years,
Speaker 1: are we better off than you are four years ago?
Speaker 1: By every objective measure? We are economically And yeah, now
Speaker 1: Bagdaddy's dead and America's got the lowest unemployment that it's
Speaker 1: had in fifty years, and very significantly, the people that
Speaker 1: have benefited most are people that have been lined to
Speaker 1: the most. I had a conversation I don't know if
Speaker 1: I should mention it on the air with an African
Speaker 1: American CEO of one of America's biggest company today. I
Speaker 1: was blown away at how great this individual was in
Speaker 1: terms of not only the great success story in his
Speaker 1: own personal life, which I've researched before a call that
Speaker 1: I had with him, but more importantly, his passion and
Speaker 1: love for the country, and more importantly even than that,
Speaker 1: how he wants to transcend policies. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: the thing. I mean, think about Donald Trump running and
Speaker 1: saying to the African American community he got nothing to lose,
Speaker 1: because that's pretty much what the message was. And now
Speaker 1: he has record low unemployment now again for African Americans,
Speaker 1: Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, women in the workplace, youth unemployment.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a fascinating The policies are the single
Speaker 1: greatest force for working people in this country. Those were
Speaker 1: the Reagan Democrats in the eighties that crossed over and
Speaker 1: went to Ronald Reagan. That that was the force. That
Speaker 1: was a GM worker this week, a car somebody on
Speaker 1: an assembly line that was quoted as saying, yeah, Donald
Speaker 1: Trump cares about us, and it's obvious he does. Why
Speaker 1: don't think he's some fighting So why did he say
Speaker 1: America first? Remember Obama and Biden pretty much they'd given
Speaker 1: up those jobs ain't coming back. Well they're coming back,
Speaker 1: and America can be manufacturing again. You know, we did
Speaker 1: need better trade deals. We were treated like crap as
Speaker 1: a country, just basically blanked all over all the time
Speaker 1: being screwed over by everybody, and he said, nobody's ever
Speaker 1: just negotiated a deal. And the fact that it gets
Speaker 1: uncomfortable when you're negotiating, Oh, you know, people get squeamish.
Speaker 1: I've never understood that part of things. That's what you're
Speaker 1: supposed to fight for, American jobs and American workers in
Speaker 1: American manufacturing. Why is it a big deal to get
Speaker 1: rid of burdensome bureaucracy which Donald Trump has single handedly
Speaker 1: wiped out a hundred years worse worth of these policies
Speaker 1: that destroyed companies and literally pushed them out of the
Speaker 1: United States of America. Why is there this mass exodus
Speaker 1: from all of these blue states New York, California. California
Speaker 1: is a mess. What do they do with the thirteen
Speaker 1: and a half percent state income tax or New York
Speaker 1: the ten percent state income tax? You know, I paid
Speaker 1: very close attention to the story about the President has
Speaker 1: now changed as primary residence from New York City to
Speaker 1: Palm Beach, Florida, according to the documents file with the
Speaker 1: Palm Beach County Circuit Court. Same with the first lady,
Speaker 1: you know what it's about time President did say, I
Speaker 1: cherished New York, the people of New York I always will.
Speaker 1: I remember many many, many many years ago, saying, why
Speaker 1: don't you just get the hell out of here. You're
Speaker 1: gonna save so much and he's so resistant, didn't want
Speaker 1: to do it. Well, that's my home, is where I
Speaker 1: grew up. I didn't he didn't want to do it.
Speaker 1: But they're flocking. So anyway, what's the answer from Governor Cuomo?
Speaker 1: Good riddance? Okay. It's like when when Cuomo said these
Speaker 1: conservatives that are pro live and pro Second Amendment and
Speaker 1: pro gun and he says, auntie gay, which I'm not
Speaker 1: that they're not real new Yorkers like hip problem is
Speaker 1: not me and the democrats hip problems themselves. Who are
Speaker 1: they are they? These extreme conservatives who are right to
Speaker 1: life a poor assault weapon? It? Hikay? Is that who
Speaker 1: they are? Because if that's who they are, and if
Speaker 1: they are the extreme conservatives, they have no face in
Speaker 1: the state of New York citizens. That's not who New
Speaker 1: Yorkers are. That's not who New Yorkers are. Now he
Speaker 1: said something else that's even more interesting. It's now that
Speaker 1: he's saying good riddance to Donald Trump. We did and
Speaker 1: they're leaving. Listen, we have one of the most progressive
Speaker 1: tax codes in the United States, which is a good thing,
Speaker 1: which means the richer you are, the more you pay. However,
Speaker 1: that presents a very fragile economy because then you are
Speaker 1: relying on a very small number of people for the
Speaker 1: vast amount of your tax dollars. One percent of the
Speaker 1: taxpayers pay nearly half of all the taxes. One percent
Speaker 1: pay nearly half of all those taxes. Those one percent
Speaker 1: are the richest people in the state. They're the richest
Speaker 1: people in the country. And they are the most mobile
Speaker 1: people in the country. And you see the chart on
Speaker 1: the bottom, top one percent, about forty six percent, top
Speaker 1: five percent, sixty three percent of all the revenue, top
Speaker 1: ten percent, seventy four percent of all the revenue. Tax
Speaker 1: the rich tax, the rich, tax the rich. We did now,
Speaker 1: God forbid the rich leave. They're leaving. And I'll tell
Speaker 1: you this, Elizabeth Warren gets elected, they're going to leave
Speaker 1: the United States. They're not stupid rich people I never met.
Speaker 1: I guess maybe they're stupid rich people in terms of,
Speaker 1: you know, trust fund people. I guess maybe they're not
Speaker 1: so smart. I don't know. I don't know that. I
Speaker 1: don't know those people. Everybody I know that made money
Speaker 1: in life work their ass off. Everybody I don't know
Speaker 1: anybody that works an eight hour day. I'm like, what.
Speaker 1: And there's nobody on my team that we know. When
Speaker 1: we talk about this, they're all in their eyes. They like,
Speaker 1: we deserve our free lunch you buy us every day,
Speaker 1: had any We deserve the bonuses that you give us
Speaker 1: for Christmas, And they do. That's why I give it
Speaker 1: to them. But I mean, everyone goes all in. Nobody
Speaker 1: doesn't answer my call or text on a weekend, Linda.
Speaker 1: If I text you on a weekend, how quick do
Speaker 1: I want an answer the weekday before? Yeah? And by
Speaker 1: the way, I have rules. The only one who gets
Speaker 1: away with not texting me back is Uncle James. He's
Speaker 1: the only one. He has an exception. He just steadfastly
Speaker 1: refuses to cooperate with texting. It drives me nuts. You
Speaker 1: know it's true. So you mean James doesn't have any
Speaker 1: of the normal, full normalities in any phone call ever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the man who does not say hello, goodbye, listen, but
Speaker 1: he does his great job. He does. See, he's the
Speaker 1: best of what he does. Like everybody else we have
Speaker 1: working for us. Um. I love how the article today
Speaker 1: Trump would without the trumpiness, would win election in a landslide.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you don't have Trump then, Look, this
Speaker 1: is about the country. We have a lot of things
Speaker 1: to fix here. We first got to fix this republic.
Speaker 1: We've got to get established the rule of law again,
Speaker 1: equal justice under the law again, equal applications of our
Speaker 1: loan again, of our laws again. Ron Johnson demands demanding
Speaker 1: the DOJ release secret Hillary Obama emails, Yeah, it's time
Speaker 1: she got away with primes. It needs to be gone
Speaker 1: back to deep state operatives. Premeditated fraud on a FISA court,
Speaker 1: that needs to be We need to hold people accountable,
Speaker 1: those that were spying illegally on a president of the
Speaker 1: United States, those that would subvert and leak information that
Speaker 1: no whey whether president has ever had to deal with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that one needs to get to the bottom of. That's
Speaker 1: all gonna But at the end of the day, the screaming,
Speaker 1: the yelling, the injustice, the unfairness, the obsession, the hate,
Speaker 1: it's never gonna go away. There's only one antidote to
Speaker 1: what's going on. Because they want Elizabeth Warren or somebody
Speaker 1: like her in some new green deal person that will
Speaker 1: destroy the country that we love and grew up in.
Speaker 1: Socialism will fail, and it will fail spectacularly, and people
Speaker 1: with money will leave, they'll stop investing, they'll find others
Speaker 1: safe havens to invest. An opportunity will go away, and
Speaker 1: America will go into a precipitous, rapid decline because these
Speaker 1: are promises that can never be fulfilled. One year in
Speaker 1: two days from now, it doesn't matter what Pelosi and
Speaker 1: the compromise, corrupt congenital liar Adam Schiff, do you get
Speaker 1: the last word one year, two days from today, mister mccape,
Speaker 1: if you would, would you be able to just say
Speaker 1: with specificity, what the FBI verified in the Steel dossier
Speaker 1: before using it in FIES applications. I've heard generally, you know,
Speaker 1: I've heard generalities, but specifically what was verified in the
Speaker 1: dossier before it was used, and also if there's an
Speaker 1: explanation for why in the FIES applications the FBI didn't
Speaker 1: just say, you know directly or indirectly that Steel, Christopher
Speaker 1: Steel was being paid by the Clinton campaign. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of caveats, and there's a lengthy footnote in there.
Speaker 1: But I was just wondering if you'd be able to
Speaker 1: answer those two questions. Sure, So the answer to your
Speaker 1: first question is no, I will not go into specificity
Speaker 1: about what the FBI verified prior to the FISA or after.
Speaker 1: And the answer to your second question is I will wait,
Speaker 1: as I'm sure you will, eagerly to see what mister
Speaker 1: Harrowitz's conclusions are in that report. That's a matter that
Speaker 1: he is, assume at the center of his investigation, and
Speaker 1: I am anxious to see what his thoughts on it are.
Speaker 1: As you've mentioned, there was an extensive and detailed explanation
Speaker 1: inserted by the Department of Justice into that FISE, a
Speaker 1: package that everyone involved believed accurately or I should speak
Speaker 1: for everyone else, I'll speak for myself. I believed accurately
Speaker 1: reflected what we knew about mister Steele. So well anxious
Speaker 1: to hear what the IG thinks about that, and we
Speaker 1: probably won't have to wait too much longer. The reason
Speaker 1: why mister Trump has this very contensed relationship with CIA
Speaker 1: and FBI and the deep state people and you me yeah, specifically,
Speaker 1: is because they tell the truth, because they cannot be
Speaker 1: manipulated like clay in his hands, because they will stand
Speaker 1: up and speak out when things are wrong, and they'll
Speaker 1: tell him what the truth is, and the truth he
Speaker 1: fears because he has lived on anything but the truth,
Speaker 1: not just during his presidency but even before that. So
Speaker 1: thank goodness for the women and men who are at
Speaker 1: the intel's community and law enforcement communities who are standing
Speaker 1: up and carrying out their responsibilities in behalf of their
Speaker 1: fellow citizens. That John Brennan, by the way, he's basically saying,
Speaker 1: thank goodness for members of the deep state. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: would be abusing power if you weaponize the powerful tools
Speaker 1: of intelligence. McCabe not answering a question about what the
Speaker 1: FBI verified in the Steel Dacier or the steal's role
Speaker 1: and Hillary's campaign. We already have the answers to those questions.
Speaker 1: We know they didn't verify it and it's unverifiable. Yet
Speaker 1: it was the bulk of information used in the is
Speaker 1: a warrant application process, which says at the top of
Speaker 1: the application verified. That means that was premeditated fraud against
Speaker 1: the FISA court or the purpose of obtaining a warrant
Speaker 1: on Carter page, by the way, taking away all of
Speaker 1: his constitutional rights. Remember McCabe once said, famously, now infamously
Speaker 1: perhaps that without the dossier, there's there's no FISA warrant. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's how powerful it was, the bulk of information according
Speaker 1: to the Grassly Graham memo, Nunes memo. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: the dirty bought and paid for Russian dossier that nobody
Speaker 1: cared about for three years when we were talking about
Speaker 1: Russian interference. Just like nobody in the mob in the
Speaker 1: media cares about Ukrainian interference in the twenty sixteen election,
Speaker 1: and a Ukrainian court has even said they interfered. They
Speaker 1: are willing to give us the evidence that they interfered.
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, doesn't you know, just like they don't care
Speaker 1: that Biden, you know, in a quid pro quote bragging
Speaker 1: about leverage the billion taxpayer of dollars for the purpose
Speaker 1: of firing a prosecutor. You know, you're not getting the million,
Speaker 1: You're not getting the billion dollars. I'm gonna take it
Speaker 1: home unless you fire that guy. You got six hours.
Speaker 1: If you fire him, you get the money. Quid pro quo.
Speaker 1: Why did he want to fire a prosecutor in Ukraine? Oh,
Speaker 1: the guy that was investigating his own son who had
Speaker 1: no experience in Ukraine oil energy gas, but was paid
Speaker 1: millions of dollars while he was the vice president of
Speaker 1: the United States and not the only country. You know,
Speaker 1: it's this is getting to a point we better start
Speaker 1: getting on track. Look, if we're gonna have deep state
Speaker 1: Brennan operatives leaking whatever they want, non whistleblower whistleblowers, he's
Speaker 1: not a whistleblower. This would be called a leaker. This
Speaker 1: would be called somebody colluding with Adam sh staff and
Speaker 1: to what extent with Brennan. I hope we one day
Speaker 1: find out. But the house of cards in many ways
Speaker 1: is coming tumbling down. We now know the Durham investigation
Speaker 1: is officially a criminal investigation with the ability to subpoena
Speaker 1: and convene a grand jury and charges be laid out.
Speaker 1: I would expect we're going to have people charged at
Speaker 1: some point. We're going to before Thanksgiving. Finally, I am
Speaker 1: told get the ever so anticipated FISA Inspector General report.
Speaker 1: Let's see if premeditative fraud on a FISA quarters revealed.
Speaker 1: Somebody who has been just killing it and exposing a
Speaker 1: lot of the corruption from the Obama Justice Department is
Speaker 1: Sidney Powell, friend of this program. She is now the
Speaker 1: attorney for General Michael Flynn, author of the definitive book
Speaker 1: on prosecutorial miss abuse, Licensed to Lie, is here to
Speaker 1: update us on what she's discovering in the Flynn case
Speaker 1: because it runs parallel to all the things we're discussing.
Speaker 1: Sidney Powell, welcome back. How's General Flynn. Where are you
Speaker 1: with the case? Because, as you said, you expect the
Speaker 1: judge is not gonna well obviously postponing sentencing and you
Speaker 1: believe the prosecutors could be held in contempt. Ultimately, yes,
Speaker 1: the judge is not postponed sentencing yet, but he canceled
Speaker 1: oral arguments for next week because of the comprehensive briefing
Speaker 1: of the parties. That was our comprehensive brief primarily, and
Speaker 1: he did allow the government to file a third reply,
Speaker 1: which they just did today that it's really absolutely nothing
Speaker 1: new and more evidence they simply dwell in an alternative
Speaker 1: universe of their own imagining. They keep going back to
Speaker 1: the fact he pled guilty and waived all his rights,
Speaker 1: and now they tell us they knew his counsel was
Speaker 1: conflict did but they never raised that issue with the court,
Speaker 1: so we expect to have fun writing our reply brief,
Speaker 1: which we will file by Monday. Okay, what are you discovering?
Speaker 1: What tell us paint the picture for people maybe that
Speaker 1: don't understand what we do know certain things about the case.
Speaker 1: We know that James comes on tape bragging that oh
Speaker 1: I did something I'd never do, or get away within
Speaker 1: the Bush or Obama years, and yeah, I sent my
Speaker 1: guys over to take advantage of the chaos of the
Speaker 1: new Trump administration. On day four, Andrew McCabe was asked
Speaker 1: by General Flynt if he needed an attorney when he
Speaker 1: heard FBI guys were coming to see him. He said,
Speaker 1: I don't know, not at all. But in fact that
Speaker 1: was an interrogation and they did deny him. Miranda Rights,
Speaker 1: tell us what else that you have discovered? Oh, it's stunning, Sean.
Speaker 1: They actually planned all of that at length. Struck admits
Speaker 1: that he and McCabe met numerous times to decide whether
Speaker 1: to end interview Flynn and how to go about it.
Speaker 1: There was a small group meeting the day before the
Speaker 1: interview of General Flynn in which they strategized about how
Speaker 1: to keep him relaxed and unguarded for the interview, the
Speaker 1: struck Page text messages we found and knew when the
Speaker 1: government never produced that indicated struck and was sitting around
Speaker 1: talking with Bill Prestep the night of January tenth about
Speaker 1: using the Steele dossier in the news as a pretext
Speaker 1: to interview people. Of course, Flynn was interviewed within fourteen
Speaker 1: days of that. I believe they knew their entire investigation
Speaker 1: or claim for a reason to investigate, was a pretext.
Speaker 1: They had copies of the telephone calls. All his calls
Speaker 1: with the ambassador were already recorded, and they had transcripts
Speaker 1: of them. They didn't have to go interview him to
Speaker 1: find out what the Russian ambassador said. They knew he
Speaker 1: had said and done nothing wrong. The entire interview was
Speaker 1: a pretext and carefully planned and strategized and orchestrated to
Speaker 1: take advantage of him believing they were friends and allies.
Speaker 1: When did you where is it? Specifically because I don't
Speaker 1: recall Adam from my own memory reading any struck page
Speaker 1: text specifically going into the details of this. Some were
Speaker 1: produced to prior counsel in the government's productions that dribbled
Speaker 1: out over the year before he played After Judge Sullivan
Speaker 1: came on the case, he entered what's called a Brady
Speaker 1: Order requiring the government to turn over information favorable to
Speaker 1: the defense, and under that they dribbled out things. Frankly,
Speaker 1: most of it was dribbled out only as it became
Speaker 1: publicly available through other sources like the Komi admission, for example.
Speaker 1: They knew of that a year earlier before they even
Speaker 1: spoke to mister Flynn in interviewing him, and they didn't
Speaker 1: produce it to the defense until four days before his
Speaker 1: sentencing was scheduled in Judge Sullivan's court, So they had
Speaker 1: that for well over a year. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: remarkable the way they went about orchestrating all of this.
Speaker 1: Explain what happened that moment where Judge Sullivan, I think,
Speaker 1: believed something about General Flynn and left the chambers and
Speaker 1: came back and there was an apology given what happened
Speaker 1: in that instance, Well, I wondered, as I was sitting
Speaker 1: there at the time I happened to be in the
Speaker 1: courtroom that day, I was wondering it almost felt like
Speaker 1: Judge Sullivan was pushing General Flynn to scream out, no,
Speaker 1: I'm innocent. I didn't do this. I mean, it felt
Speaker 1: to me like he did not want to proceed with
Speaker 1: the sentencing that day, and ultimately he didn't. He suggested
Speaker 1: to the defense that they, if I recall, he also
Speaker 1: didn't he say something, Well, my answer is not going
Speaker 1: to be any different if we don't do it today.
Speaker 1: I don't remember that exactly. He did launch off on
Speaker 1: a suggestion that the general had arguably sold out his
Speaker 1: country while he was in the White House, and that's
Speaker 1: what he had to walk back when he came back
Speaker 1: on the bench. But we don't know, of course what
Speaker 1: the government had given him, sealed an ex parte that
Speaker 1: misled him into thinking that, well, I mean, so why
Speaker 1: would the government be allowed to give him anything without
Speaker 1: you having all the time it happens all the time
Speaker 1: in criminal cases. Well you know stuff in that file
Speaker 1: I'm sure that I'm not aware of. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand because it's taken so long. I thought,
Speaker 1: as a matter of law that any evidence must be
Speaker 1: presented to the other side, especially sculptory evidence, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, you deal with a lot how often it
Speaker 1: is sadly withheld When there's instances of prosecutorial abuse, and
Speaker 1: that's the problem here. The government's claiming they've given us
Speaker 1: more than we were entitled to. So the judge is
Speaker 1: going to have to intervene to order us to be
Speaker 1: given more. And the problem for any defendant is he
Speaker 1: doesn't know what he doesn't know. The government literally holds
Speaker 1: all the cards, and they routinely say, oh, well, that's
Speaker 1: not exculpatory, but they're not in a position to decide that.
Speaker 1: They're even claiming here that the text message we found
Speaker 1: on our own that Struck was sitting around talking with
Speaker 1: Bill Preestapp about the pretext for the interview. They claimed
Speaker 1: that had nothing to do with Flynn. So that's not
Speaker 1: exculpatory to us. That is amazing to me. You know.
Speaker 1: One of the things we do know certain things in
Speaker 1: the case. We do know that they yeah had unmasked
Speaker 1: General Flynn. We do know that they had all they
Speaker 1: had the full conversation. We do know that he was
Speaker 1: denied his miranda and basic constitutional rights by the deputy
Speaker 1: FBI Director McCabe at the time. We do know that
Speaker 1: this was a setup. I callmey that he's bragging about.
Speaker 1: I guess that's how we now treat thirty three year veterans.
Speaker 1: And we know that he didn't lie because the FBI
Speaker 1: interrogators themselves, even after all of this, didn't think he
Speaker 1: was lying correct correct, So and then we know that
Speaker 1: at the end of the day he was still pled
Speaker 1: guilty because they were threatening to go after his son.
Speaker 1: Is that correct? That's correct? That and he had been
Speaker 1: almost bankrupted by that time. The legal fees were enormous
Speaker 1: just from the purported fare A violations. He was a
Speaker 1: pet paid Cunnington over a million dollars by early summer,
Speaker 1: and then the Special Council stuff started. Let me pick
Speaker 1: up there. When we get back out, Sidney Powell, attorney
Speaker 1: for General Michael Flynn with us. We're getting close. We're
Speaker 1: going to get this information and it can't come soon enough.
Speaker 1: Joe Concho on our corrupt media will get to that.
Speaker 1: A fascinating view of the Jeffrey Epstein suicide by doctor
Speaker 1: Michael Boden and David Schoen who was representing him. Coming
Speaker 1: up we can with a Sydney Powell, attorney for General
Speaker 1: Michael Flint, as we update that case. Do you believe
Speaker 1: that when we get the Inspector General report on Fier
Speaker 1: abuse and then later the Durham Report, that there's going
Speaker 1: to be an intersection of issues that will involve your client,
Speaker 1: General Flint. I think there will be. I'm very much
Speaker 1: looking forward to the Fiser report. Now, do you believe
Speaker 1: as I do, that the only conclusion has to be
Speaker 1: because there were multiple warnings that this was premeditated fraud.
Speaker 1: It was an unverifiable dirty dossier paid for by Hillary,
Speaker 1: but it's premeditated fraud on a court just buying a
Speaker 1: presidential candidate, transition team and president. Yes. I listened to
Speaker 1: what mister McCabe said as you played the opening, and
Speaker 1: I was appalled that anyone would consider that an accurate
Speaker 1: representation of what had happened with respect to Christopher Steele.
Speaker 1: I mean, you believe there'll be justice because of everybody
Speaker 1: is saying, Hannity, we've known this for a long time
Speaker 1: now and now nothing has happened. Do you believe there
Speaker 1: will be justice? I do believe there will be justice.
Speaker 1: I think there has to be justice or we're lost
Speaker 1: as a republic. It's a pretty scary admonition. Sydney Powell. Yes,
Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, all right, our best to General Flynn.
Speaker 1: By the way, people want to get ahold of you.
Speaker 1: How do they do it? Www dot Mike Flynn Defense
Speaker 1: Fund dot org. All right, Sydney Powell, attorney for General
Speaker 1: Michael Flynn. Eight hundred nine four one, Shaun is a
Speaker 1: number when we come back. Joe Concha on the corrupt
Speaker 1: media bias that is influencing all things political and impeachment
Speaker 1: madness and much more. As we continue, all right twenty
Speaker 1: five to the top of the hour. Glad you're with us.
Speaker 1: Eight hundred nine four one, Shawn, if you want to
Speaker 1: be a part of the program. Top of the next hour.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is I know Michael Boden for years.
Speaker 1: He's been a chief medical Examiner of fame, forensic pathologist,
Speaker 1: I mean, done more autopsies than we'd ever want to know. Anyway,
Speaker 1: he was sat it on the autopsy at Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 1: and he doesn't believe that this guy killed himself. He
Speaker 1: said that the evidence points dramatically more in the different
Speaker 1: in the way of a strangulation. We'll talk to him
Speaker 1: and one of the attorneys that was brought in at
Speaker 1: last minute in an Epstein case. We'll get to that.
Speaker 1: So last night, one of the most requested things that
Speaker 1: we've been running on TV. Is it. It's two minutes
Speaker 1: in eighteen seconds, and it starts the day two days
Speaker 1: after election day, twenty sixteen, and it's all through twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: all through twenty eighteen, all through twenty nineteen. And it's
Speaker 1: just a sampling of how many times the radical extreme
Speaker 1: Democrats and the mob in the media said, impeach, impeach, impeach, impeach, impeach, impeach.
Speaker 1: Now it's a little bit more visual, but I think
Speaker 1: it's worth playing on radio because you know, we put
Speaker 1: in the typing noise, and the typing noise that you
Speaker 1: here is a visual of a date. So just imagine
Speaker 1: in your mind's eye that this is going all through again,
Speaker 1: starting two days after election day, all the way through
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, all the way through twenty eighteen, all the
Speaker 1: way up to today. And this is just a small
Speaker 1: sampling impeachment mania. And it just shows you because there's
Speaker 1: nothing to impeach the president for. We have the transcript.
Speaker 1: President's funny say, maybe I'll do a fireside chat and
Speaker 1: read it, and the mob just you know, to get
Speaker 1: triggered again. Can you believe this? It's going to read
Speaker 1: the transcript oh, I mean everyone's interpretation that they put
Speaker 1: so much value on. Let the American people hear what
Speaker 1: the President said. Cracks me up, actually, but here it is,
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna go come on the other side
Speaker 1: of it with our buddy Joe Conscha straight ahead. If
Speaker 1: he takes the risk of going to trying he's convicted,
Speaker 1: that could be seen as an impeachable offense. If Trump
Speaker 1: were caught on a video camera snorting cocaine in the
Speaker 1: White House, maybe with one of his children, there was
Speaker 1: at least a chance he'd be impeach if he's not
Speaker 1: a legitimately elected president. In your mind, there are tools
Speaker 1: that Congress had. I don't see how that wouldn't be
Speaker 1: an impeachable That tweet fits the Republican definition of an
Speaker 1: impeachable offense. I will fight every day until he is impeached.
Speaker 1: Peace body bye, and peach body by grounds for impeachments.
Speaker 1: An impeachable offense, perhaps impeachable offense is impeachment the appropriate
Speaker 1: remedy something for the Congress like impeachment. All that may
Speaker 1: be impeachable. That's an impeachable offense is that an impeachable
Speaker 1: offense is that an impeachable offense. To you, he's much
Speaker 1: more vulnerable to impeachment, a potential ingredient of impeachment. Where
Speaker 1: do you see in a peachafbul offense? It is grounds
Speaker 1: for impeachment, for impeachment potentially criminal or even impeachable grounds
Speaker 1: for impeachment or does that not go far enough in
Speaker 1: your view? Grounds four impeachment? This tweet alone maybe an
Speaker 1: impeachable offense. Let's talk about impeachment. Impeachment is on the table?
Speaker 1: Which impeachable offense? Fully stolen? And I think, baby, they
Speaker 1: talk because we're gonna go in there, We're gonna impeach them.
Speaker 1: Do you see an impeachable set of offenses? It's an
Speaker 1: impeachable offense. If that's not impeachable, I don't know what is.
Speaker 1: The president shall be removed from office on impeachment? Is
Speaker 1: it impeachable? Is impeachable? Very substantial evidence that the president
Speaker 1: is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanor grounds for impeachment.
Speaker 1: Tipping point to talk of impeachment reaches a fever pitch
Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill. That's the madness we've now lived through.
Speaker 1: Starting two days after Donald Trump was elected. This is
Speaker 1: to them as I said yesterday for the mob and
Speaker 1: the media that this is a mission from God. They
Speaker 1: know better. They can't believe that they lost. They can't
Speaker 1: believe Muller didn't get them. They can't believe Russia flopped
Speaker 1: and blew up in their face. They don't know it yet,
Speaker 1: but this is blowing up in their face. I am
Speaker 1: looking at numbers that well, I have let's say, friends
Speaker 1: and high places that do polling and share with me
Speaker 1: what they see and what's going on. And what they're
Speaker 1: seeing is that what the Democrats are doing is driving
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party off a cliff. And when you look
Speaker 1: at some of the polling numbers that I have seen,
Speaker 1: and I have a lot of poster friends around the country,
Speaker 1: that support for the president has increased, and very specifically
Speaker 1: in the key target states that would be most necessary
Speaker 1: for the president to win re election. And his favorability
Speaker 1: has never been higher among Republicans and increasing as we go.
Speaker 1: And more Americans, by the way, now want Joe Biden investigated.
Speaker 1: They understand what happened with the real quid pro quo,
Speaker 1: which is the you got six hours if you fire him,
Speaker 1: I'll give you a billion dollars. You don't fire him,
Speaker 1: you're not getting the money. And then as dope sun
Speaker 1: or do you have any experience with the Ukraine? No?
Speaker 1: Any experience? And energy? No oil, no gas, no nothing none.
Speaker 1: Why do you think you were on the board. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I have served on MR once, I was
Speaker 1: on the board at Amtrak. That's not experience. And why
Speaker 1: did you get that position? Next question, Well, you think
Speaker 1: maybe it's because it's your father's last name. Probably Anyway,
Speaker 1: here to break down the insanity of the media, Joe
Speaker 1: conscious with us. He's a calumnist, media calumnist of the Hill.
Speaker 1: He also hosts his own show on our New York affiliate,
Speaker 1: the All New AM seven ten w R. How are you,
Speaker 1: sir doing? Grade Sean, That was an interesting breakdown that
Speaker 1: you just had. And I've seen some numbers as well
Speaker 1: that you've talked about in those key battleground states where
Speaker 1: impeachment is under water by double digits. In other words,
Speaker 1: people that approve of what the Democrats are doing currently
Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill and they want him to concentrate on
Speaker 1: other topics like the opioid crisis and healthcare and immigration,
Speaker 1: so by taking their eye off the ball, and when
Speaker 1: this thing ends, with the president not being removed from office,
Speaker 1: because again, you need twenty GOP senators to defect. An
Speaker 1: outside of Mitt Romney and Pierre de Lecto, who's really
Speaker 1: only one person, I don't really see any Republicans that
Speaker 1: are going to go against the party and vote to
Speaker 1: remove the presidents. So we know how the movie is
Speaker 1: going to end. And then after all that, Democrats are
Speaker 1: gonna have to say, Okay, voters, here's what we've done
Speaker 1: since we took back the House in twenty eighteen, and
Speaker 1: they'll be able to point to almost nothing. And when
Speaker 1: you can't make lives in the American people better and
Speaker 1: you're only running on negativity, and Hillary Clinton can attest
Speaker 1: to this by just saying Donald Trump's a bad guy,
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose the same way you lost in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be worse because I think is
Speaker 1: you know, I think first of all, the fundamental unfairness
Speaker 1: of this, you know, the secret Soviet style impeachment coup
Speaker 1: hearings being led by somebody who's compromised himself, which is
Speaker 1: the cowardly shift. I mean, I mean, you got him compromise.
Speaker 1: He's a fact witness in the case, and he's running
Speaker 1: this whole charide and he's been lying as a congenital
Speaker 1: liar that's been, you know, out there telling us we
Speaker 1: have all the evidence Trump prusher collusion. They couldn't pick
Speaker 1: a worst person to run this, So that's not popular.
Speaker 1: Then they still are not giving any due process because
Speaker 1: he's the judge, jury executioner, and they given no rights
Speaker 1: that say new King Ridge gave Bill Clinton and his
Speaker 1: attorney's a nineteen ninety eight or Democrats gave Nixon when
Speaker 1: they tried to impeach him. So I see this going
Speaker 1: getting worse and worse for them as they go alone.
Speaker 1: If there was an honest media, even somewhat honest media here,
Speaker 1: you would have Adam Schiff that being constantly bombarded with
Speaker 1: tough questions and his credibility questioned during interviews and during analysis. Instead,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw the Washington Post today,
Speaker 1: but they have a lead story that says, and this
Speaker 1: is literally the headline, and I literally fell off my chair.
Speaker 1: Like it's not really a saying, I actually fell off,
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure I hurt my hip. Listen to this.
Speaker 1: Adam Shift once wanted to be a screenwriter can he
Speaker 1: give the Trump presidency a Hollywood ending? That's a Washington
Speaker 1: Post story, And that's the type of love that an
Speaker 1: Adam Shift gets. It's the type of love that Elizabeth
Speaker 1: Warren which he puts worth proposal today fifty two trillion
Speaker 1: dollars for Medicare for all, when our entire federal budget
Speaker 1: is four trillion per year. Even if we spend it,
Speaker 1: you got rid of every single program and every single
Speaker 1: expenditure that we have, we still couldn't pay for it.
Speaker 1: Is that going to be fact checked the way that
Speaker 1: a Trump proposal would? Of course not. So the problem
Speaker 1: is twofold. I'm going to make two very obvious observations.
Speaker 1: Sean most in political media load the president. We know that.
Speaker 1: But it's also very good for business. So that's whole
Speaker 1: the incentive because you get ratings and clicks to go up.
Speaker 1: So look in terms of Trump and in terms of
Speaker 1: the way this is going to go. They aren't there
Speaker 1: the media to serve their viewers and readers. It's to
Speaker 1: be accepted within the bubble and love by their peers
Speaker 1: and to get that next contract offer from your boss.
Speaker 1: At these more liberal networks and publications, if you go
Speaker 1: after Trump as hard as possible. I'm just surprised there
Speaker 1: aren't more contrarians to just say, look, I'm going to
Speaker 1: give an honest opinion. If I you know, an unpredictable,
Speaker 1: unpredictable type of person this business, that's a good thing
Speaker 1: because people don't know what you're gonna say next. That's
Speaker 1: a good thing in this business when you're honest and
Speaker 1: people can spot authenticity. But we don't see that anymore.
Speaker 1: Everybody just wants to be accepted and do what their
Speaker 1: bosses think they should say and what they think viewers
Speaker 1: want to hear, instead of what they should here. And
Speaker 1: it's such a shame. I thought there were more a
Speaker 1: couple of more people that had some you know, for
Speaker 1: lack of a better term, balls in this business, but
Speaker 1: they don't. Everybody just wants to conform to the high
Speaker 1: mentality and move forward with this because they don't know
Speaker 1: any other way. All right, stay there, Joe Concho with us, right?
Speaker 1: Think you continue? Joe Concho is with as opinion media
Speaker 1: writer for The Hill and fellow host on WR in
Speaker 1: New York. It's interesting, well, you once formerly worked at media.
Speaker 1: They I forget who wrote the column, but I saw
Speaker 1: a column in the last couple of days there about
Speaker 1: You know, all these people that work at you know,
Speaker 1: I call it Area fifty one, Roswell, Rachel Maddow's channel,
Speaker 1: MSDNC or fake news CNN. You know, they don't. There
Speaker 1: is no delineation like there is a Fox. Like for example,
Speaker 1: I keep telling everybody will listen what I do for
Speaker 1: a living, Hannity, what do you do for a living?
Speaker 1: I'm a talk show host. What is a talk show host? Well,
Speaker 1: it's all encompassing. It's like the full newspaper because we
Speaker 1: do reporting, straight news reporting, and I can produce thousands
Speaker 1: of hours, and we do investigative reporting, vetting Obama or
Speaker 1: what we've discovered with a deep state buys a the
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton rigged investigation, outsourcing, intelligence gathering, you know, all
Speaker 1: the real Russian news that they ignored that we're going
Speaker 1: to learn an awful lot about in the days to come.
Speaker 1: But then we also do opinion, and I'm honest that
Speaker 1: I'm a conservative and I support the president's conservative policies.
Speaker 1: And we also talk about sports and culture and talk
Speaker 1: to friends like you about media. So we do everything.
Speaker 1: But they say that their news, They claim that these
Speaker 1: primetime hosts are newspeople. They even allow Area fifty one
Speaker 1: Roswell Rachel to be one of their moderators in debates.
Speaker 1: Imagine if Fox let me be a model raider in
Speaker 1: a Republican debate. I remember Rachel Maddow. She was on
Speaker 1: Bill Marshow a couple of years ago, and she was
Speaker 1: actually challenged by a guy named Nichollespie who writes for
Speaker 1: I Believe Reason, and he's a pretty honest guy. He's
Speaker 1: down the middle, or least is authentic, like I was
Speaker 1: talking about authentic before. And he challenged her on some
Speaker 1: of her opinions. And at one point she had the
Speaker 1: audacity to say, I don't do my show to give
Speaker 1: my opinion on things. I'm here to report the news.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, you're not. Just say you're an opinion person.
Speaker 1: It's okay. And then on CNN, where you look down
Speaker 1: their lineup at eight to eleven o'clock, Anderson Cooper, Chris Cuomo,
Speaker 1: Don Lemon, they all are listed as anchors. They're presented
Speaker 1: as anchors as people just asking questions and not taking
Speaker 1: a side, and we all know that's not true. And
Speaker 1: I think that's why so many people are turned off
Speaker 1: by the media because they're sick of having their intelligence
Speaker 1: insulted by people being presented as objective people when you know,
Speaker 1: most people are opinion at that point, because, let's face it,
Speaker 1: that's a little sexier and that's a more fun place
Speaker 1: to be than just being a straight reporter where there
Speaker 1: aren't too many people like that anymore. So, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think people are just more honest about where they stood
Speaker 1: and who they are and who they support. I think
Speaker 1: they have a lot more respect. Quite frankly, what did
Speaker 1: you think of this story that came out earlier today
Speaker 1: about the whistle blower's lawyer now threatening journalists to keep
Speaker 1: his identity a secret. And you know, I found the
Speaker 1: words actually really interesting. This is in light of Paul
Speaker 1: Sperry in real clear investigations and his peace and about
Speaker 1: an open secret inside the Beltway. I'm sure, like me,
Speaker 1: you knew about this identity long before Sperry put it
Speaker 1: out there. I just haven't been able to confirm it.
Speaker 1: So I just wait. Our client is legally entitled to anonymity.
Speaker 1: Disclosure of the name of any person who may be
Speaker 1: suspected to be the whistleblower places that individual and their
Speaker 1: family in greater physical danger. Any physical harm the individual
Speaker 1: and or their family suffers as a result of the
Speaker 1: disclosure means that the individuals and publications reporting such names
Speaker 1: will be personally liable for that harm. Such behavior is
Speaker 1: the pinnacle of irresponsibility and intentionally reckless. I think if
Speaker 1: you're a hearsay non whistleblower, that is the secondhand whistle blower,
Speaker 1: and you're working with the deep state, I don't think
Speaker 1: you even qualify as a whistle blower. As my answer, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you worked for Joe Biden, and you worked for John Brennan,
Speaker 1: and you're obviously a partisan, so you're longer whistleblower. You're
Speaker 1: simply an activist for a political party. And boy, that
Speaker 1: letter sounds like a threat to the free press to me,
Speaker 1: doesn't it. I mean, why shouldn't we as journalists pursue
Speaker 1: the name of who the whistle blower is and what
Speaker 1: that person's background is to establish just like you do
Speaker 1: in a murder case motive? Right, Like, why are you
Speaker 1: doing this? Is it because you really are just a patriot?
Speaker 1: Like the New York Times says, Oh, I gotta take
Speaker 1: a break, but it makes me want to now do it?
Speaker 1: It's the thing. I don't know, why have this side
Speaker 1: of me my whole life. It's sort of like when
Speaker 1: you know the word, if you say illegal immigrant or
Speaker 1: a legal alien in New York, you can find up
Speaker 1: to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So I just
Speaker 1: said it four hundred times, you know, said, Okay, come
Speaker 1: get me the Blasio. Good luck with that case, because
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose. I got to take a break. Joe.
Speaker 1: Great to hear from you again as always. Eight hundred
Speaker 1: nine four one. Shaun is on number great story at
Speaker 1: the top. Doctor Biden does not believe Epstein was a
Speaker 1: suicide and he was in on the autopsy. We'll get
Speaker 1: to that and your calls. Eight hundred nine four one
Speaker 1: sewn our final hour on a Friday, Straight Ahead. Coming
Speaker 1: up next our final news round up and Information Overload Hour.
Speaker 1: When did you realize that the Epstein family needed help? Well?
Speaker 1: I was asked by the brother the next of Ken
Speaker 1: to be at the autopsy. And at the autopsy on
Speaker 1: day one, they were findings that were unusual for suicidal
Speaker 1: hanging and more consistent with literature homicidal strangulation, which included
Speaker 1: and he was suggested at the time that he committed
Speaker 1: suicide by doing what but by hanging at the time
Speaker 1: he was found allegedly hanging by a homemade literature of sheets.
Speaker 1: Are you saying you don't think it was suicidal? I
Speaker 1: think that the evidence points to a homicide rather than
Speaker 1: suicide because there are multiple three fractures in the hyoid
Speaker 1: bone the flabroid cartilage that are very unusual for suicide
Speaker 1: and more indicative of strangulation, homicidal strangulation. All right, on
Speaker 1: this Friday, Happy Friday News roundup Information overload hour. We'll
Speaker 1: get to your calls at the bottom of this half hour,
Speaker 1: and our best of audio for the week all coming up.
Speaker 1: So this story just fascinated me because it never it
Speaker 1: just didn't pass my smell test. And it's the story
Speaker 1: of this suicide death of Jeffrey Epstein. Now, we had
Speaker 1: had knowledge that like in the week or two before
Speaker 1: the quote suicide, which it has officially now been called,
Speaker 1: that he had been with some cell made to beat
Speaker 1: the crap out of him. I guess, had a black
Speaker 1: eye and everything else in between. But there's a certain
Speaker 1: science to all of this. Another weird aspect of this
Speaker 1: was okay, Usually there are rounds and checks on every prisoner,
Speaker 1: and a suicide watch especially for certain individuals, and certain
Speaker 1: procedures and cameras in place, and everything just didn't work
Speaker 1: out the way normally would in this case. I'm not
Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorist. I just said, hmm, just one of
Speaker 1: those you know, how do you commit suicide when you're
Speaker 1: like on the side of your bed and you can't
Speaker 1: just hang the rope or hang the sheets and put
Speaker 1: it around your neck and strangulate yourself or whatever however
Speaker 1: that works. So I just had a little bit of
Speaker 1: a question. And anyway, it turns out that the former
Speaker 1: medical examiner for New York City is a friend of mine,
Speaker 1: and he was hired by the family by Jeffrey Epstein's
Speaker 1: brother Mark to observe the autopsy after he has found
Speaker 1: hanged in this lock up in Manhattan in August. And
Speaker 1: being you know, now in this business some fifty years
Speaker 1: and twenty thousand autopsies later, many high profile cases, I
Speaker 1: found his conclusions and observations amazing. Anyway, doctor Michael Boden
Speaker 1: is with us. He is New York City's former chief
Speaker 1: medical examiner. And David Shoon, who's been a friend of
Speaker 1: the program, civil rights attorney. I didn't even know this
Speaker 1: until recently. He had been hired by Jeffrey Epstein only
Speaker 1: days before quote the so called suicide, and he had
Speaker 1: been talking to Jeffrey Epstein. Anyway, welcome both of you
Speaker 1: back to the program, doctor Boden. How many years let's
Speaker 1: just go over your background and experience. You've done this
Speaker 1: for almost fifty years, that's right, Sean. I started out
Speaker 1: working as a medical intern and resident at Bellevue Hospital
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty part time in the medical Examiner's office though
Speaker 1: NYU Medical School and Bellevue Hospital right next to each other,
Speaker 1: and then in nineteen sixty five became a full time
Speaker 1: forensic mythologist a medical examiner and stay there for twenty
Speaker 1: until nineteen eighty five, becoming chief medical examiner at one point,
Speaker 1: and then spent twenty five years after that the chief
Speaker 1: medical examiner for this New York State Police. And how
Speaker 1: many and how many autopsies were would you say either
Speaker 1: you performed or have been involved in over this long
Speaker 1: career of yours. I've done the performed more than twenty
Speaker 1: thousand autopsies. But Sean, one of the things is back
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy one. You remember the Addicta riot when
Speaker 1: forty three prisoners and guard died as a result of
Speaker 1: the riot, and one of the reasons, one of the
Speaker 1: main reasons for the riot is that the inmates thought
Speaker 1: that they the deaths caused by guards were being covered
Speaker 1: up as heart attacks. And so Governor Rockefeller, after Attica,
Speaker 1: established a permanent commit a medical review board for the
Speaker 1: Correction Commission to review every single death that occurs in jail's,
Speaker 1: lock ups and prisons throughout New York State. And I've
Speaker 1: been the forensic pathology member of that board, reappointed by
Speaker 1: seven different governors. So I've seen every single hanging death,
Speaker 1: every death that has occurred in the past almost fifty
Speaker 1: years in US New York State. So if I understand
Speaker 1: the so called suicide and then this was declared a
Speaker 1: suicide and you were in the right, but you've done
Speaker 1: all these these autopsies over the years. By the way,
Speaker 1: it kind of creeps me out. I'm just saying, as
Speaker 1: a friend, I told you that before, dead bodies is
Speaker 1: not on my list of things that I want to
Speaker 1: see every day. But I know that, but I want
Speaker 1: to go I explain how somebody can can hang themselves
Speaker 1: if they don't drop. If that you know what I
Speaker 1: mean by that question. In other words, yeah, when you
Speaker 1: say hanging, it usually means that the person has the
Speaker 1: neck in the noose and is the weight of the
Speaker 1: body is on the ligature hanging from above. Here, that
Speaker 1: didn't happen. He was found on his knee, kneeling by
Speaker 1: his bed. The ligature was tied up at three feet
Speaker 1: above him on the one of the poles in the
Speaker 1: bunk bed from the policoes from the bottom bunk bed
Speaker 1: to the top bunking bed, and the noose was around
Speaker 1: his neck. He hadn't been seen for, as you said,
Speaker 1: for three hours. They didn't do any of the thirty
Speaker 1: minute rounds to see how he was. And the person
Speaker 1: who finds him is one of the guards apparently who
Speaker 1: fell asleep. They're two guards. They had to see him too.
Speaker 1: They allegedly fell asleep and the no The body was
Speaker 1: immediately moved away and sent down to the hospital, so
Speaker 1: there was no scene investigation at all. The only person
Speaker 1: who saw what happened is the guard, and he said
Speaker 1: he cut the ligatures and he wasn't hanging. He was
Speaker 1: on his knees. So the idea was its possible, but
Speaker 1: very hard to put your head in a noose while
Speaker 1: you were on the ground and pull it tight enough
Speaker 1: to cause death. That can happen, but if it does happen,
Speaker 1: you don't get fractures of three bones in the front.
Speaker 1: And there's a thing about the autopsy was the fractures
Speaker 1: of the hyoid bone. Now the thyroid cartilage is the
Speaker 1: Adams apple, and the left side and the right side
Speaker 1: of the Adams apple were fractured, as was the hyoid
Speaker 1: bone above it. And that can't happen even if you
Speaker 1: are hanging, but will never happen at all if you
Speaker 1: just put your head in a nose. There's no pressure there.
Speaker 1: It's more like a it's a crush injury kind of
Speaker 1: case to see if the neck is stomped on by somebody,
Speaker 1: but or with a very strong literature strangulation that provides
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of a lot more pressure
Speaker 1: than just weight of body. So that goes findings immediately.
Speaker 1: Who went against the possibility of hanging suicide. Firstly, it
Speaker 1: wasn't hanging, but also the medical examiner who did the
Speaker 1: autopsy on the Sunday, who did the autopsy also felt
Speaker 1: that even though there were told it was a suicide.
Speaker 1: She wouldn't make it a suicide, she said, pending further investigation,
Speaker 1: because she wanted to get the police investigation. The investigations
Speaker 1: that still haven't been released are still going on, and
Speaker 1: she left it as pending further investigation. And somehow, about
Speaker 1: four or five days later, the chief medical examiner, who
Speaker 1: hadn't seen the body, she never saw the body, changes
Speaker 1: the suicidal hanging, and that kind of stops any investigation
Speaker 1: by the New York City police because they don't investigate suicide.
Speaker 1: But we don't know what the FBI has done, whether
Speaker 1: they had examined the ligature to see whose DNA was
Speaker 1: on it. Sow down one more second. Why don't they
Speaker 1: investigate suicides because suicide is a closed case. They don't
Speaker 1: investigate heart attacks. They don't really investigate, so there could
Speaker 1: be a political reason if they if they believe it's
Speaker 1: natural death or heart they can say heart attack. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I got if those If those questions arise, then they
Speaker 1: should be further investigation. But normally usually they as soon
Speaker 1: as you classified as a non homicide, and the non
Speaker 1: homicidal case usually all of the investigation will stop unless
Speaker 1: a fuss made that this is all right. Well, I
Speaker 1: want to get to that in a second. Here now, David,
Speaker 1: you're listening to all this. I had not known you
Speaker 1: were brought in officially as this guy's lawyer. Um I
Speaker 1: guess how many days before this all happened. Here's what happened.
Speaker 1: He had been calling me since his arrests, and he
Speaker 1: messages the people asking me to come see him. He
Speaker 1: had some fine lawyers in the case. He had Marty
Speaker 1: Weinberg in Boston. He had red Winegart from Washington, DC.
Speaker 1: I hesitated to get involved. For weeks before this, he
Speaker 1: had been calling me and asking me review the work
Speaker 1: in another case. But um so I had an ongoing
Speaker 1: sort of discussion with him. August first, I agreed finally
Speaker 1: to come to New York. I met with him at
Speaker 1: the MCC for about five hours. At that time, he
Speaker 1: asked me to take over the case completely. I said,
Speaker 1: subject to meeting with Weinberg and Weingarten, and if they
Speaker 1: weren't agreeable, then the idea was I would put together
Speaker 1: my own team. But I had hoped to work with them.
Speaker 1: I tried to set up a meeting with them. One
Speaker 1: was overseas, etc. I agreed finally to go forward in
Speaker 1: the case, and then throughout the next week I was
Speaker 1: getting called this is part of the other. Let me
Speaker 1: back up one step and listen. I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 1: Everyone deserves a defense. This guy, everything I read about him,
Speaker 1: there's nothing I like about him. So I understand that.
Speaker 1: But part of it was because, in my view, at least,
Speaker 1: his defense was dysfunctional. There was a lot of there
Speaker 1: were a lot of answers to be given to the
Speaker 1: stuff that was out there in the media at the time.
Speaker 1: And frankly, I don't believe these stories about the underage girls,
Speaker 1: but that you know either here or there for this purpose,
Speaker 1: For this purpose, I had two instructions. After I got
Speaker 1: news on that Saturday night that he passed away, I said,
Speaker 1: you must have I knew that the autopsy would be
Speaker 1: the following day. I said, you must have doctor Michael
Speaker 1: Boden in on that autopsy if it's all possible. It
Speaker 1: turned out one of the other folks had a connection
Speaker 1: to him, and they got to him and had him there.
Speaker 1: That was crucially important to me. I've had a number
Speaker 1: of these death cases. It's always important to have an
Speaker 1: independent guy there. If possible, but he's generally forget about
Speaker 1: all the credentials he told you about, is generally recognized
Speaker 1: as the best in the world. So what he's very important.
Speaker 1: I learned what he said on the twelfth when I
Speaker 1: was then asked to represent the estate after they passed
Speaker 1: away until he came forward. Now this stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: has not been made public. There is no way possible
Speaker 1: the Chief Medical Examiner could have ruled this to be
Speaker 1: a suicide conclusively. That's a scam, that's a polity. Five
Speaker 1: days and five days, and doctor Boden has told you
Speaker 1: exactly why not. But I'm going to give you one
Speaker 1: other element to it. I met with him on the
Speaker 1: first We came up with a whole new, multifaceted defense
Speaker 1: strategy in this case. The following day, I got a
Speaker 1: call from a member of his team who sort of,
Speaker 1: you know, Bruke ranks because you know, these guys sort
Speaker 1: of resented some of them that I was getting in
Speaker 1: welved in the case. If you could get in today
Speaker 1: and start giving orders, it would be great for the team.
Speaker 1: He's so excited going forward. Five days later, I got
Speaker 1: a call from another person who've met with him, said,
Speaker 1: this guy just loves you. He can't wait to go
Speaker 1: forward and fight this case. I got information that on
Speaker 1: the Friday before he died Saturday, he was giving out
Speaker 1: orders to the team based on the strategies we had
Speaker 1: discussed about what to do moving forward. The idea that
Speaker 1: that person then commits suicide the following day is extraordinary,
Speaker 1: extraordinarily unlikely to me. When I was visiting him, he
Speaker 1: had a visit from a prison psychologist part of the
Speaker 1: suicide protocol, and it was a joke. She was smiling,
Speaker 1: he was smiling. He lasted about five minutes. Very nice person.
Speaker 1: But that wasn't a possibility, Doctor Boden, How how convinced
Speaker 1: are you you're right then? And look I know those
Speaker 1: probability odds and yeah you're but you're you're you're good
Speaker 1: at what you do. I mean, you know, you've been sean.
Speaker 1: If this were a New York State case, our board
Speaker 1: would have found that this is a homicide until proven otherwise,
Speaker 1: that all the investigation should go forward. There's so many
Speaker 1: things that happened badly. Somehow the security guards fell asleep,
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous, two of them. The cameras didn't work, and
Speaker 1: the injuries that I saw, see, David Sean says, when
Speaker 1: I was at the oat paps the injury. I saw
Speaker 1: the fractures in front of the windpipes. We see in
Speaker 1: the street. Usually if somebody stomps on somebody's neck with
Speaker 1: a leather shoe, a hard shoe, but it could not
Speaker 1: happen even if he were hanging from a ligature. From
Speaker 1: the ligature and he wasn't he was on the ground,
Speaker 1: there would have been very little pressure on the neck.
Speaker 1: If he died at all from that kind of a position,
Speaker 1: it would have to be I gotta take a break.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold you guys over because I do have
Speaker 1: a couple more questions about this, not the least of
Speaker 1: which is, you know, the most hated figures you fear
Speaker 1: in jail are people that alleged to be pedophiles. And
Speaker 1: this guy had the you know, sweetheart deal, quote, conviction
Speaker 1: or plea deal, whatever you want to call it. We'll
Speaker 1: take a quick break more with doctor Michael Boden David
Speaker 1: Shone on the other side. Eight hundred nine four one,
Speaker 1: Shawn is a number. Also, get your calls in as
Speaker 1: we continue on this Friday at twenty five to the
Speaker 1: top of the hour, Happy Friday. We're gonna forego our
Speaker 1: best of audio for this Friday. We'll get to your calls.
Speaker 1: I wanted to hold over from the last half hour
Speaker 1: Doctor Michael Boden, New York City's former chief medical Examiner
Speaker 1: David Shoon, who in the days before quote the officially
Speaker 1: ruled suicide of Jeffrey Epstein and this Manhattan lockup he
Speaker 1: was retained as his attorney. Doctor Boden was hired by
Speaker 1: Epstein's brother to observe the autopsy, and he says, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't see suicide here. So here's my question to
Speaker 1: both of you. Maybe David will start with you. First. Look,
Speaker 1: I don't know prison. I just don't. Thank God, I
Speaker 1: don't want to know prison. One thing I always read
Speaker 1: about prison is there's two groups of people. Prisoners tend
Speaker 1: to hate rats and convicted child sex offenders. Now, okay,
Speaker 1: so doctor Boden, he doesn't believe this is a suicide.
Speaker 1: You don't believe this is a suicide. Now does that
Speaker 1: mean that maybe this guy was killed because of what
Speaker 1: he's being charged with and what his reputation is and
Speaker 1: what his plea deal was in the past, or do
Speaker 1: you think it's more nefarious than that and some type
Speaker 1: of I don't know, because you hear all these people
Speaker 1: that flew on this Lolita Express and his orgy Island.
Speaker 1: I mean you read the papers like I do. As
Speaker 1: I said, you know, this guy gave me the creeps.
Speaker 1: Nothing about that guy that I liked anything reading about
Speaker 1: this guy. There's nothing I liked about reading about that guy.
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a defense. Everybody does. But
Speaker 1: you get my point. I get your point. Um, Look
Speaker 1: who did it and how it was done, etc. Is
Speaker 1: certainly a matter of speculator, pure speculation. I will say this,
Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent right that that category of people
Speaker 1: who are charged are at particular risk. The idea for
Speaker 1: folks who they put him in the cell with is
Speaker 1: absolutely outrageous on any circumstances. As you mentioned, you know,
Speaker 1: the first guy, the guy charged with several murders, tremendous guy,
Speaker 1: former police officer. When after that first incident, when he
Speaker 1: was moved out, they put him in with a guy
Speaker 1: who was supposedly a junkie, you know, using drugs actually
Speaker 1: in the cell. According to Stepstein. In any event, beyond
Speaker 1: all that, his wealth also put him at great risk,
Speaker 1: and they knew that, and he was very much afraid
Speaker 1: of that. They would show on the television, for example,
Speaker 1: the value of his house that the government raided, you know,
Speaker 1: the largest part of the largest privately owned house in Manhattan,
Speaker 1: and the inmates make comments to him all the time
Speaker 1: about that. He was very afraid of that. But any
Speaker 1: institutional officers would have known that and should have known that.
Speaker 1: We're seeing this kind of thing far too often where
Speaker 1: there's you know, it's always I have many right, but
Speaker 1: the bottom line is you you you know because you listen.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest. You're you. You have represented rats, you
Speaker 1: have represented mob people, you have represented I mean this
Speaker 1: is this guy is probably known for Lolita Express on
Speaker 1: Orgy Island, and known for his wealth and known for
Speaker 1: the the Plea deal that everybody you know has been
Speaker 1: very critical of. Yeah. I have not represented rats, by
Speaker 1: the way, but I have represented other people who many
Speaker 1: consider unsavory. Um, and it's not my position. You're, well,
Speaker 1: people considered rats. Is that a better way to put it?
Speaker 1: I correct the record. I don't, I mean, euthemistically, I
Speaker 1: don't represent people who are right. You've you, okay, you
Speaker 1: have represented people that have been alleged to be associated
Speaker 1: with the mob troll falls. Correct, Correct, there we go.
Speaker 1: I just want to be on the same page. Go ahead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but in this case, listen, there were again the media
Speaker 1: killed this guy every day and stuff. The presumption of
Speaker 1: business is thrown out. I'm not here to defend a case.
Speaker 1: That's not what your show is about today. I will
Speaker 1: tell you there are a lot of answers to people
Speaker 1: who testified against him substantively, but all of that's beside
Speaker 1: the fact, because what the folks on the inside at
Speaker 1: that MCC saw was great stories about great wealth and
Speaker 1: by the way, that subjects people. I represent a crazy
Speaker 1: eddie years ago, you know, wealthy guy, and he was
Speaker 1: forced to pay people at times on the outside of
Speaker 1: prison just for protection money. So this is a great
Speaker 1: risk and they knew that. And the idea that they
Speaker 1: wouldn't have had him under observation twenty four hours, seven
Speaker 1: days a week is absolutely outrageous. The idea that cameras
Speaker 1: in this facility weren't working. There's a you know, facility
Speaker 1: with high profile inmates day after day after day. But
Speaker 1: we see that kind of thing in case after he
Speaker 1: along with this fellow Hank Brennan, I'm representing the state
Speaker 1: of James Boulger. Now, same kind of thing where you know,
Speaker 1: nobody was there, nobody knows anything, all right, So but
Speaker 1: in prison, those would be, you agree, people that are
Speaker 1: alleged to be rats, alleged to be pedophiles, they're the
Speaker 1: most hated. Or are there people that maybe flaw on
Speaker 1: the Lolita Express and hung out at org Island. Again,
Speaker 1: that's how it's portrayed in the media. I'm not characterizing
Speaker 1: this in a way that's unfair because that's what everyone said.
Speaker 1: You are right. There are many people who had many
Speaker 1: reasons for wanting him dead. That's what I was asking.
Speaker 1: Do you have a personal suspicion, because look, I have
Speaker 1: no opinion on it. I don't know. I don't understand
Speaker 1: what medical examiners do. Forensic science is amazing to me,
Speaker 1: but it's not my area of expertise. In order I
Speaker 1: understand prison, doctor Boden, how convinced are you that you
Speaker 1: believe that this was a strangulation and would you be
Speaker 1: able would you be able to prove it based on
Speaker 1: the evidence that you would have available to you? Last question, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: that those fractures are not due to suicide. Some other
Speaker 1: person had to put a great deal of pressure, either
Speaker 1: by stomping on him or by closing that loop the
Speaker 1: deligature very tightly. And Sean remembered that as David brought
Speaker 1: up he had been assaulted on July twenty third, we
Speaker 1: was found on the floor of the room. He said
Speaker 1: that this roommate had tried to kill him. Of the
Speaker 1: brother Mark feels that after that he felt certainly in
Speaker 1: fear for his life, that somebody was out to get him. Normally,
Speaker 1: he should have been put in a secure part of
Speaker 1: the institution, but instead they put him on suicide watch
Speaker 1: instead of protecting him. But even suicide watch is supposedly
Speaker 1: scene twenty four hours a day. Somehow improperly the psychiatrist
Speaker 1: that David referred to took him off it. Now in
Speaker 1: prisons the New York State, a psychiatrist can't take somebody,
Speaker 1: has to go through a whole lot of procedures to
Speaker 1: take somebody, or if they think he has attempted suicide,
Speaker 1: and then they put him in another room with another roommate.
Speaker 1: But that roommate was removed a day or two before
Speaker 1: he was found dead, so at the time he was
Speaker 1: found dead. He had the cameras weren't working, the guards
Speaker 1: were asleep, the roommate had had been taken out of
Speaker 1: the out there already had been an attempt to harm him,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't found hanging. He the ligature looks like
Speaker 1: was put on after death, you know, to tie it
Speaker 1: to the to the three feet above the ground. He
Speaker 1: was dead. I think before that literature it was a
Speaker 1: cat to the bed. He did not swing from the
Speaker 1: top of the bunk at all. The top of the
Speaker 1: bunk was was not involved. So the injuries that he had,
Speaker 1: the three fractures in the windpipe could not have happened
Speaker 1: the way he was in a position he was found
Speaker 1: all right. Amazing mystery to me. As I said earlier,
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it, and um, doctor Biden,
Speaker 1: I just know you've done this for fifty years, and David,
Speaker 1: I know you to be a man of impeccable integrity
Speaker 1: and would never lie to us. It certainly raises a
Speaker 1: lot of questions whether we'll ever get those answers. I
Speaker 1: don't even know if it's going to be possible. You know,
Speaker 1: if they didn't have the camera's work and the guys
Speaker 1: fell asleep. I mean, we don't know, we don't know
Speaker 1: what the FBI found. That they're the ones who went
Speaker 1: to the scene, who should have interviewed all the other
Speaker 1: prisoners who were who were right next to him, the
Speaker 1: cells next to him, and what was the DNA on
Speaker 1: the ligature, Who's whose DNA was it? Uh? Jeffreys and
Speaker 1: the medical examine at the times that would not say
Speaker 1: it's a suicide, though, although she was pressed to do so,
Speaker 1: she said pending further investigation. Some have the chief medical
Speaker 1: Examiner five days later, when no new information came in, Uh,
Speaker 1: she said that the investigation is completely She changed the
Speaker 1: suicide hanging, and I just think that was a mistake,
Speaker 1: a true diagnosis, and it itself interfered with the further investigation.
Speaker 1: All right, I want to thank you both. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: just remember this. Those people who were in that room
Speaker 1: with doctor Biden can't carry his bags. You've just heard
Speaker 1: from the foremost expert in the world that ought to
Speaker 1: at least raised every questions for everyone. They shouldn't be
Speaker 1: satisfied with what they heard from the medical examiner. All right,
Speaker 1: doctor Biden, David Shu, thank you both. Uh. A lot
Speaker 1: of odd coincidences. That's all I'll say. I just have
Speaker 1: no idea I have. I'm it just is such a
Speaker 1: high profile case and a convergence of things that systems
Speaker 1: that would normally be in place not being in this case.
Speaker 1: All right, Brad Colorado, Happy Friday, Brad, glad you called, sir, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: thank you Sean for having me on Man. I watch
Speaker 1: you every day. I will thank you, Laura, And I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, Tucker is one of my favorites too.
Speaker 1: My TV stays on Fox all day and the only
Speaker 1: reason why I pay one hundred and twenty dollars a
Speaker 1: month is because that's the only place I can watch it.
Speaker 1: And I'm so grateful that ninety three seven came to Colorado,
Speaker 1: this Santuary state. It makes me stick. But I do
Speaker 1: have a couple of questions in regards to Lindzy Graham.
Speaker 1: I love the guy. I can't understand why he's not
Speaker 1: playing the subpoena game like all these crazy democrats. I
Speaker 1: just I have your answer you ready, yes, sir. When
Speaker 1: Michael Horrowitz report comes out, he said those numerous times
Speaker 1: he is going to bring in Michael Horowitz and give
Speaker 1: him all the time he needs to go into every
Speaker 1: single minute detail of what he discovered in the abuse case.
Speaker 1: Now as it relates to these other matters, he has
Speaker 1: said that he is going to follow up on them.
Speaker 1: Both Ron Johnson and Senator Charles Grassley, to their credit,
Speaker 1: have reopened the Rigged investigation and a Hillary server, so
Speaker 1: that is now back in play. And then you got
Speaker 1: the Durham investigation. Look, I'm not I'm just gonna say this.
Speaker 1: I am more frustrated than anybody because you know, we
Speaker 1: built this team out for the very purpose, you know,
Speaker 1: of discovering all of this. We already know that there
Speaker 1: were warnings given to the dj and the FBI as
Speaker 1: it relates to Hillary's bought and paid for dirty Russian dassier,
Speaker 1: and the media didn't cover that. We we've broken all
Speaker 1: of those stories, especially on the issue of it not
Speaker 1: being verifiable, and the warnings that were given, and the
Speaker 1: bulk of information was the in the FISA application. They
Speaker 1: knowingly lied to the court. They were warned. They did
Speaker 1: it anyway, that's premeditated, that's fraught against the court. They
Speaker 1: did it to spy on then candidate, then transition team,
Speaker 1: then President Trump. We also were in the forefront of
Speaker 1: breaking down what happened with Sam Clovis, Carter Page, Papadopoulos,
Speaker 1: This Joseph Misfoot misidentified as a as a Russian asset
Speaker 1: when he was a Western asset in the Muller report,
Speaker 1: and we've gotten to all of that. I look, it's frustrating.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say anymore except that
Speaker 1: let's get the report we're told now before Thanksgiving. If
Speaker 1: it goes after Thanksgiving, I don't even know what to
Speaker 1: say anymore. But he has done with the report. It's
Speaker 1: in the declassification process. Govern Na MINT is pathetically slow,
Speaker 1: but there is going to be a cascade of information
Speaker 1: that comes out with this. And the fact that now
Speaker 1: the Durham investigation is officially a criminal investigation is beyond
Speaker 1: meaningful because that is the right to subpoena can being
Speaker 1: grand juries and charges can then be filed. I believe
Speaker 1: all of that will happen, and I do believe it
Speaker 1: will have an impact on the Soviet secret style impeachment
Speaker 1: coup attempt of the compromised, corrupt, coward, congenital liar Adam Schiff.
Speaker 1: I think all of that's happening. Well, joke, So this well,
Speaker 1: the Christine Blaise fod thing. She went up there. She
Speaker 1: didn't even shed a here. This lady is so full
Speaker 1: of it, and I don't know how they sound her.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's basically selling her soul to the Democratic devil,
Speaker 1: going up there and completely manufacturing and lying every word
Speaker 1: up there about about our new justice. You know, it's
Speaker 1: just it's ridiculous. List stay stay tuned. I'm running out
Speaker 1: of time stuff, But I just hang in there. I
Speaker 1: feel the same way you do. All Right, we're really
Speaker 1: out of time. I'm look, we've got a lot coming up.
Speaker 1: Let not your heart be troubled. The backlash is begun.
Speaker 1: The madness is going to be exposed. We got the
Speaker 1: Horowitz report before Thanksgiving, I'm told finally we're waiting, and
Speaker 1: the Durham report is now a real investigation. And I
Speaker 1: will say this, whatever involvement Shifts Office has had with
Speaker 1: this so called whistleblower, non whistle blower here say whistle blower,
Speaker 1: whoever this person is, that's gonna be big trouble with
Speaker 1: the compromise corrupt congenital liar coward Adam Schiff Mark my words,
Speaker 1: have a great weekend. Thanks for being with us. We'll
Speaker 1: see it back here on Monday.