WEBVTT - Was Epstein Murdered?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Happy Friday, glad you're with us. Right down

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<v Speaker 1>our toll free telephone number. It's eight one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>nine four one sean you want to be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the program. Oh, we got more bad news if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a Democrat. October job growth far exceeds expectations. The

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<v Speaker 1>unemployment rate for African Americans down to another record low.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoopsie Daisy, a little problem on our way to the

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<v Speaker 1>talking down of the economy. I want to recession Bill

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<v Speaker 1>maher prayer for twenty twenty one hundred and twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>thousand jobs added last month. That topped expectations all by itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Upward revisions of the prior two months added another of

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<v Speaker 1>ninety five thousand jobs, for a grand total of two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty three thousand new jobs added to the economy.

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<v Speaker 1>And what everybody was worried about was the GM strike,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a huge drag on both job growth growth

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<v Speaker 1>and GDP. I keep telling everybody we need these jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys got to look unions and these companies have

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<v Speaker 1>got to work in tandem here so that these we

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<v Speaker 1>don't want the manufacturers leaving again, and we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>the jobs going to other countries again, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they get into these well pissing matches for lack of

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<v Speaker 1>a better term, and it goes back and forth. The

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<v Speaker 1>answer is simple, is that performance profit sharing is the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, obviously, have you know your your standard

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<v Speaker 1>salary benefits whatever that happens to be. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>next step is, Okay, everybody has a vested interest in

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<v Speaker 1>kicking butt and doing well, and if you do that,

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<v Speaker 1>that would that would be it anyway, So they were

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<v Speaker 1>worried about that, but obviously not the drag that everybody

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<v Speaker 1>thought it would be. Um. But that, of course, there

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<v Speaker 1>is bad news if you're a Democrat because oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>good news for the for the treat for the economy,

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<v Speaker 1>bad news for them. You know, I spent a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time and this has actually now been made public,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently the internal polls of the Republican Party that they've had.

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<v Speaker 1>But I spent time on the phones with a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of poster friends of mine and they're confirming the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is now heading south, and it's gonna head south

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly. And I predict the American people they're rightly

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<v Speaker 1>conflating three years of lying conspiracy theories hoax, four separate investigations,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump Russia collusion, FBI, House Intel, Senate, Bipartisan Committee, Mueller Report,

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<v Speaker 1>and then now we got Ukraine interference. And they are

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<v Speaker 1>rightly saying, you know what, we're sick of the lies,

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<v Speaker 1>We're sick of the conspiracies, were sick of you just

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<v Speaker 1>we get it. You hate Donald Trump, go beat them.

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<v Speaker 1>But they even admit, what's the congressman's name, al Green

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever his name is, we better impeach him because

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<v Speaker 1>God knows we're not going to be able to beat

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<v Speaker 1>the guy. Are you concerned that impeachment talk may actually

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<v Speaker 1>help the president's reelection. I'm concerned that if we don't

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<v Speaker 1>impeach this president, he will get reelected. Yeah. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the two, the van whatever his name is, guy

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<v Speaker 1>from New Jersey congressman, one of the two that voted

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<v Speaker 1>against this hack resolution that was only meant to as

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<v Speaker 1>like a propaganda piece present to the American people the

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<v Speaker 1>appearance of fairness and as anything but because the almighty

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<v Speaker 1>and all powerful, compromise corrupt, coward, congenital liar Adam Schiff,

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<v Speaker 1>he gets to make any rule he wants. Republicans have

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<v Speaker 1>the right to ask for this. They have the right

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<v Speaker 1>to ask for that, they have the right to ask. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they had the right to ask before saying that they

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<v Speaker 1>have the right to ask. Does it make it any

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<v Speaker 1>less illegitimate and lacking due process because that it who

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<v Speaker 1>is compromised and a fact witness in the case gets

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<v Speaker 1>to override anybody. He is the judge, jury, the executioner

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<v Speaker 1>all in one, and he's been the biggest liar. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got the evidence, all the evidence. See evidence there, Russia collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>So now people see the president has done a good

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<v Speaker 1>job by any measure a president should be able to

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<v Speaker 1>go after a first term in re election. Where one

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<v Speaker 1>year and two days away now from the next election

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<v Speaker 1>November third, twenty twenty, am I right on that lender,

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<v Speaker 1>You can chuck. That is election day, that is one

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<v Speaker 1>year and two days from today, and the American people

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<v Speaker 1>are going to ultimately make a judgment on the job

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<v Speaker 1>that Donald Trump has done as president. Now there's somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, without Trumpism and trump Heism and Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>being Trump, he'd be running away by every metric and

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<v Speaker 1>it would be a landslide. It's like saying, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>want you to now now that you've you've made all

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<v Speaker 1>these games being Trump, we want you to stop. We

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<v Speaker 1>want you to take the switch in your mind and

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<v Speaker 1>turn it off and stop being the fighter that let's see,

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<v Speaker 1>kept his promises on judges and tax cuts and bureaucracy

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<v Speaker 1>and cutting the bureaucracy and finding the way finally to

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<v Speaker 1>build the wall, which is going to be a big, big,

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<v Speaker 1>big issue if he builds that wall. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>trade deals that helps American workers with Canada, Japan and

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico and Western European allies and Japan, and even half

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<v Speaker 1>a deal with China. You know, he's kept all those promises,

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<v Speaker 1>and the president he has more to do and what

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<v Speaker 1>he's building up our defenses again. And in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>he also killed Baghdaddy, the world's number one most brutal

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<v Speaker 1>evil terrorists on the face of the earth. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>got his number two and his spokesperson and three others

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<v Speaker 1>in the process. Well, he won't get credit from the

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<v Speaker 1>mob either on any of these points. It's never been

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<v Speaker 1>this corrupt, It's never been this abusively obnoxiously biased. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the media can't contain themselves. And my hope a year

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<v Speaker 1>in two days from now is when you tune in

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<v Speaker 1>non election night and you're watching, probably the exam pose

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<v Speaker 1>will come in about five fifteen Eastern disaster. President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>has been beaten. All right, Let's see because if you

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<v Speaker 1>tune in then six o'clock when the coverage begins Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>time and everywhere, if all the anchors are giddy because

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<v Speaker 1>the eggs and poles show that the president lost, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, the eggs of pole said, We will have

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<v Speaker 1>told you anyway that day beforehand, because I always you're

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<v Speaker 1>not supposed to talk about it, but I always do.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. The internal pole leading and my posters

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<v Speaker 1>are telling me and that they're in sync together that

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<v Speaker 1>this effort, this secret lack of due process, Soviet style,

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<v Speaker 1>never ending impeachment, ipeachment, impeachment, impeachment, inpeachment and madness, is

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<v Speaker 1>now driving the Democratic Party off a cliff. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it, what have they done? They can't

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<v Speaker 1>name a single accomplishment in all this time because they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't accomplished anything, And so what it should now serve

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<v Speaker 1>as an admonition and warning. Now they're too stupid probably

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<v Speaker 1>to listen. They probably have polsters they've hired that will

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<v Speaker 1>tell them what they want to hear. I've never believed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe to this day nobody should believe. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Donald Trump will ever pull like any conventional

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<v Speaker 1>establishment politician, because he's not one. There's this Trump factor,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, which is, you know what, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to tell you. I just voted for him, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can go shove it. That kind of exists out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people see that. This is also a lot deeper

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<v Speaker 1>than Trump. I mean, long after Donald Trump, let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>serves his two terms, we the people will still be

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<v Speaker 1>here that voted for him. We the people, the people

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<v Speaker 1>that showed up at his rallies, is still gonna be here.

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<v Speaker 1>We smelly Walmart Trump supporting voters and irredeemable deplorables that

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<v Speaker 1>cling to God, guns, Bibles and our faith and our

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<v Speaker 1>religion and belief in God. Yeah, we're still going to

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<v Speaker 1>be here because He's tapped into something that's real. And

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<v Speaker 1>what's been real is people are fed up. They're fed

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<v Speaker 1>up with the swamp, the sewer, the corruption, the smoke

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<v Speaker 1>filled room, back deep door dealing crap. Anyway, the Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>and my polling guys tell me and assure me seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>target states from some approval ratings up and he's at

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<v Speaker 1>an all time high favorability among Republicans. That's good in

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<v Speaker 1>case you get the wobbly Republicans in the Senate, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there'll be a few. I don't think Mitt

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<v Speaker 1>Romney will ever get over that he lost running for president.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't matter how unfair of the process is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he just he's had it out for Trump, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to continue to have it out for Trump except

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<v Speaker 1>when he accepts accepts his endorsement when he's running, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a five there's a massive increase in the

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<v Speaker 1>number of Americans that now would like to see Joe

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<v Speaker 1>and Hunter Biden investigated. Now that's interesting to me because

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<v Speaker 1>you notice how the mob in the media, they've just

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<v Speaker 1>dismissed that as ad that's just a conspiracy theory, conspira nobody.

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<v Speaker 1>He's never done anything wrong, there's nothing. Everybody agrees, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no evidence that there's any wrong doing. There's none. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's Hannity on Fox. Don't believe Hannity on Fox. Come on,

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<v Speaker 1>Hannity is a conservative. You can't believe anything he says.

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<v Speaker 1>The President took every opportunity to spread unsubstantiated claims and

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<v Speaker 1>attack his political enemies. Trump is referring to unfounded allegations

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<v Speaker 1>that his vice president Biden tried to protect his son

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<v Speaker 1>by stopping an investigation into the Ukrainian company that his

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<v Speaker 1>son worked for. Biden and his son have denied all wrongdoing,

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<v Speaker 1>and there is no evidence of any and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>evidence either Biden did anything wrong. But there's been no

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<v Speaker 1>evidence of any wrongdoing. But there's there has been he uncovered,

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<v Speaker 1>no evidence, no evidence, no evidence, no evidence of wrongdoing

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<v Speaker 1>by Biden. Rudy Giuliani claims without proof, unsubstantiated, unsubstantiated, unfounded,

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<v Speaker 1>unfounded accusations against Biden. Hunter Biden did not violate anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no evidence Biden did anything wrong. And the

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<v Speaker 1>President just did interrupt here because we can go on forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Likes It's sort of like the two minutes everyone loves

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<v Speaker 1>the montage with you know, you hear the typing, the date,

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<v Speaker 1>and you all we've heard is impeachment since two days

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<v Speaker 1>after the president. There's no evidence, no evidence, no evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>no manufactured, manufactured, manufact stormy stormy stormy stormy slllos impeach impeaching,

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<v Speaker 1>being peach like the a bunch of robots. But now people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if there's no evidence, then you have to

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<v Speaker 1>believe the following that Joe Biden bragging on tape about

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<v Speaker 1>his quid pro quote, how he shook down Ukraine and

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<v Speaker 1>bragged about it that I told him he got six hours,

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<v Speaker 1>six hours. He said, you got six at fire him

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<v Speaker 1>six hours, or you're not getting the billion you fire.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you get the billion. You don't fire him,

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<v Speaker 1>You're not getting the billion. That's called the quid pro quote,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it the very thing that's so outraged about. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like they were so outraged about Russia, Russia, Russia, but

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<v Speaker 1>not Hillary's dirty Russian Dacier. They didn't care about that.

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<v Speaker 1>They care so much about foreign election interference. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a court in Ukraine admitting it, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>political admitting it January eleven, twenty seventeen. And then of

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<v Speaker 1>course then we find out, well, why would a vice

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<v Speaker 1>president threaten and shake down a country to fire some

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<v Speaker 1>stupid prosecutor. Oh, prosecutors investigating his son. He's not young,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, the kid's forty nine years old. And

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<v Speaker 1>why would they investigate his son, because that dope went

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<v Speaker 1>on Good Morning America confirmed everything we already knew. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have any experience in Ukraine? No energy, no oil,

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<v Speaker 1>no gas, no. Why do you think they were paying

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<v Speaker 1>you millions? I don't know. Maybe because it's your father,

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<v Speaker 1>probably that's probably the reason. I'm thinking, yeah, maybe, possibly, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So now Americans not you see, I know, they live

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<v Speaker 1>in their bubble, the media bubble, the DC bubble, the

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<v Speaker 1>New York La San Francisco bubble. But the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>us don't live in their distorted, twisted, ugly you know way.

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<v Speaker 1>We're actually real Americans that shop at Walmart and power

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<v Speaker 1>our heads and ask for God's forgiveness and blessings in

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<v Speaker 1>life and our families. And yeah, we believe in the

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<v Speaker 1>Second Amendment. And we're not irredeemable, deplorable people. Were actually

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<v Speaker 1>real Americans that make the country great and make it

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<v Speaker 1>run every day. The people that do most of the

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<v Speaker 1>living and breathing and building and dying is George Bailey

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<v Speaker 1>once famously said, And it's a wonderful life the ones

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<v Speaker 1>they have contempt for. So anyway, it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm guessing this backlash continues, and I'm guessing that

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<v Speaker 1>this is not going to work out well for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Time as we roll along, eight hundred and nine fold

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<v Speaker 1>one sean and impeachment is not popular. And according to

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<v Speaker 1>these polls in these states, so you've got a good economy,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got these polls. Now, as we predicted, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going well. Americans Washington Examiner, Americans of every political stripe

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<v Speaker 1>reacting to this corrupt you know, compromise, congenital liar shift,

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<v Speaker 1>Pelosi pushed the railroad, the president and all these efforts

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<v Speaker 1>now are boosting the GOP base everywhere around the country.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm reading from the Washington Examiner. The longer this goes,

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<v Speaker 1>we are seeing more and more voters shift to supporting

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<v Speaker 1>the president, recognizing that this is a totally partisan endeavored

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<v Speaker 1>by the Democrats. The thing is, and they laughed at

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<v Speaker 1>the President saying, well, I'll well, I'll just read the

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<v Speaker 1>transcript of fireside chat, which I thought was pretty funny

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<v Speaker 1>on the President's part. And now that we know, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we know enough about the whistleblower to know that the

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<v Speaker 1>whistleblowers of partisan a whistleblower that was a holdover from

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<v Speaker 1>the Obama era, a whistleblower that work for John Brennan,

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<v Speaker 1>a whistleblower that had contact with Chiff's office. These are

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<v Speaker 1>all real questions we need real answers to. I did

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<v Speaker 1>notice an amusing story that the whistleblowers lawyer is threatening

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<v Speaker 1>journalists and out there saying that there might be legal

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<v Speaker 1>action against them. Our client is legally entitled to anonymity. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't actually think that's true. Now, I have not

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<v Speaker 1>independently confirmed it myself. So I do what I always do.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in due process, assumption of presumption of innocence,

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<v Speaker 1>so I we always wait. That's our standard operating procedure.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, that's the one that Paul Sperry mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>in real our investigations is the one that everyone's talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>They haven't seemed to have factored in yet that the

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<v Speaker 1>ig report is real and it's here. It's when on

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<v Speaker 1>the precipice we can now finally freaking taste it. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we'll taste it before we have our Thanksgiving turkey. It's

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<v Speaker 1>taken long enough, and then the Durham Report will come,

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<v Speaker 1>which now has taken on greater significance being officially a

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<v Speaker 1>criminal investigation, and that means subpoenas and that means competing

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<v Speaker 1>grand juries and charges can be filed. All right, we'll continue.

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<v Speaker 1>Be sure to check in as soon as you into

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<v Speaker 1>your car after work for breaking information you need to

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<v Speaker 1>know about. This is the Sean Hannity Show, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five till the tom of the art. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're a little devastated of the program m. We've told

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<v Speaker 1>you about lone Star transfer dot Com there an advertiser

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<v Speaker 1>of this program, but they were actually more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people that we've gotten to know, Brian and

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<v Speaker 1>Karen Holloway and about Linda. You can tell the story,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but Brian had a massive stroke, very very suddenly,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are absolutely devastated for Karen. Um. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's They were just dear friends of the show. They

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<v Speaker 1>came up to every event we had for our advertisers.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just amazing. It's so fun to be around time.

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<v Speaker 1>And Brian is you know, Brian's larger than life. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a cowboy hat to match that larger than life personality,

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<v Speaker 1>cowboy boots. And you know, Karen was sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>quiet and funny partner, and they were just awesome and

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<v Speaker 1>just lovely, lovely people and obviously the stroke came very suddenly,

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<v Speaker 1>and Karen and I were texting last night and I

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<v Speaker 1>just said to her, in all truth, you know, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>share it with you. I just said, I am so

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<v Speaker 1>devastated for you. I am praying for you. My heartbreaks

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<v Speaker 1>for you. And she was like, Linda, I literally am

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<v Speaker 1>leaning on God because I just don't have the strength.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I'm going to do it without them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I honestly just asked the audience to pray for Karen.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, these people are awesome. They started a business

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<v Speaker 1>from the ground up. It's a family business and her

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<v Speaker 1>and Brian did it together, and they answered the phones,

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<v Speaker 1>they talk to the customers, the listeners. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>just awesome people. And we're just so sorry. There's such

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<v Speaker 1>lovely people. I'm and yes, I echo all of your sentiments.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's just devastating, you know, m I always say it,

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<v Speaker 1>but when it happens, you know, it's like even losing

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<v Speaker 1>a parent, Like I know, people out of sick parents

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<v Speaker 1>and you have one, you know, you've had your dad's

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<v Speaker 1>been sick a little bit lately, and I always say,

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<v Speaker 1>just spend the time with your parents. But now you'll

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<v Speaker 1>never regret it. You'll never regret it. You never regret it,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, my dad died six months after I

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<v Speaker 1>started in Fox News now on my twenty fourth year,

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<v Speaker 1>and my mom really not that long after, and you just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're just regret it. You regret you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>spend the time. In my case, I was out traveling

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<v Speaker 1>and working and traveling and working, and you know, living

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<v Speaker 1>outside of where they lived. But they're just good people

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<v Speaker 1>and you think back into their lives and how hard

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<v Speaker 1>they work, and you know, things just happen. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know it. Loss is just one of those things. Is

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<v Speaker 1>so painful. And Karen, if you're listening, we love Brian

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<v Speaker 1>and we love you and we're thinking about you and

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<v Speaker 1>praying for you today and your whole family. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're all devastated, and our thoughts and prayers remain with you.

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<v Speaker 1>And everybody goes through this. The Road Less Travel starts

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<v Speaker 1>with this line. It goes life is hard, life is difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to accept that part of life. Every there's

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<v Speaker 1>not one person, and this transcend trust me, socioeconomics. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been poor, poor, poor, and now yeah, I get paid

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money to get the crappied out of

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<v Speaker 1>me by the media every day. But it's by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a funny story to that too. And but

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<v Speaker 1>nobody escapes nobody. Nobody escapes life's hardness, Nobody escapes loss,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody escapes pain, Nobody he just it is a part

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<v Speaker 1>of what what I think is designed to mold our character. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in God the Almighty. I believe in heaven

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<v Speaker 1>and Earth, and I believe that there's a better place,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe that Heaven is real, to quote the book,

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<v Speaker 1>Heaven is real, But it doesn't take away the pain.

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<v Speaker 1>In moments like this. It hard, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is what an election day is about. One year and

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<v Speaker 1>in two days from today, it's about. You know that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a choice election, unlike any we've had. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very hard, I know, for a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>to grasp and understand what it is that is driving

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<v Speaker 1>this against Donald Trump the way they're driving it so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It is that he has touched a nerve an underbelly,

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<v Speaker 1>a gross, disgusting, corrupt underbelly that is Washington, and even

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<v Speaker 1>the Republicans that don't really like him, they're exposed to

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<v Speaker 1>in this and that these swamp creatures have not done

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<v Speaker 1>their job. They have not been servants of the people

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<v Speaker 1>that this whole system has needed the shock and disruption

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<v Speaker 1>that it's now experiencing. Americans did not go blindly in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen and think, oh, they were electing or any

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<v Speaker 1>establishment figure. You know, access Hollywood happened. How many weeks

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<v Speaker 1>before the act? Was it two weeks? Three weeks before

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<v Speaker 1>the election? American people factored in Donald Trump, the full

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<v Speaker 1>on force of nature that he is character imperfect as

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<v Speaker 1>he is against and weighed seriously against the same old

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<v Speaker 1>swamp creatures. And nobody embodies that more of the culture

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<v Speaker 1>of corruption than the Clintons. And to get there, he

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<v Speaker 1>had to beat a lot of big name people, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of governors and a lot of senators, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people that had a lot more political experience.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's resonating and in our lifetime we've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>this political force of nature, I mean to an extent.

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<v Speaker 1>Obama had a charisma about him. There was a movement

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<v Speaker 1>with Obama. There was a I think it was more

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<v Speaker 1>smoke and mirrors though, but it was more hope and

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<v Speaker 1>change and yes we can and as and youth and

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<v Speaker 1>slogans and bumper stickers, and nobody really wanted to dig

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<v Speaker 1>deep into who he was and what his ideology was,

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<v Speaker 1>his background as lack of experience and Acorn and community

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<v Speaker 1>organizing and the impact of somebody twenty years and Reverend

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<v Speaker 1>Rights g d America Church and Black liberation theology, and

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<v Speaker 1>nobody could quite figure out the airs Endorn scandal. They're willing.

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<v Speaker 1>People are willing to just kind of overlook a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it. By every measure, if we go by four years,

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<v Speaker 1>are we better off than you are four years ago?

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<v Speaker 1>By every objective measure? We are economically And yeah, now

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<v Speaker 1>Bagdaddy's dead and America's got the lowest unemployment that it's

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<v Speaker 1>had in fifty years, and very significantly, the people that

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<v Speaker 1>have benefited most are people that have been lined to

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<v Speaker 1>the most. I had a conversation I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I should mention it on the air with an African

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<v Speaker 1>American CEO of one of America's biggest company today. I

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<v Speaker 1>was blown away at how great this individual was in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of not only the great success story in his

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<v Speaker 1>own personal life, which I've researched before a call that

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<v Speaker 1>I had with him, but more importantly, his passion and

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<v Speaker 1>love for the country, and more importantly even than that,

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<v Speaker 1>how he wants to transcend policies. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. I mean, think about Donald Trump running and

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<v Speaker 1>saying to the African American community he got nothing to lose,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's pretty much what the message was. And now

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<v Speaker 1>he has record low unemployment now again for African Americans,

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<v Speaker 1>Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, women in the workplace, youth unemployment.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a fascinating The policies are the single

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<v Speaker 1>greatest force for working people in this country. Those were

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<v Speaker 1>the Reagan Democrats in the eighties that crossed over and

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<v Speaker 1>went to Ronald Reagan. That that was the force. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a GM worker this week, a car somebody on

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<v Speaker 1>an assembly line that was quoted as saying, yeah, Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump cares about us, and it's obvious he does. Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he's some fighting So why did he say

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<v Speaker 1>America first? Remember Obama and Biden pretty much they'd given

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<v Speaker 1>up those jobs ain't coming back. Well they're coming back,

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<v Speaker 1>and America can be manufacturing again. You know, we did

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<v Speaker 1>need better trade deals. We were treated like crap as

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<v Speaker 1>a country, just basically blanked all over all the time

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<v Speaker 1>being screwed over by everybody, and he said, nobody's ever

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<v Speaker 1>just negotiated a deal. And the fact that it gets

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<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable when you're negotiating, Oh, you know, people get squeamish.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never understood that part of things. That's what you're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to fight for, American jobs and American workers in

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<v Speaker 1>American manufacturing. Why is it a big deal to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of burdensome bureaucracy which Donald Trump has single handedly

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<v Speaker 1>wiped out a hundred years worse worth of these policies

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<v Speaker 1>that destroyed companies and literally pushed them out of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States of America. Why is there this mass exodus

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<v Speaker 1>from all of these blue states New York, California. California

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<v Speaker 1>is a mess. What do they do with the thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>and a half percent state income tax or New York

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<v Speaker 1>the ten percent state income tax? You know, I paid

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<v Speaker 1>very close attention to the story about the President has

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<v Speaker 1>now changed as primary residence from New York City to

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<v Speaker 1>Palm Beach, Florida, according to the documents file with the

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<v Speaker 1>Palm Beach County Circuit Court. Same with the first lady,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what it's about time President did say, I

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<v Speaker 1>cherished New York, the people of New York I always will.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember many many, many many years ago, saying, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you just get the hell out of here. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna save so much and he's so resistant, didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. Well, that's my home, is where I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up. I didn't he didn't want to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're flocking. So anyway, what's the answer from Governor Cuomo?

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<v Speaker 1>Good riddance? Okay. It's like when when Cuomo said these

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<v Speaker 1>conservatives that are pro live and pro Second Amendment and

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<v Speaker 1>pro gun and he says, auntie gay, which I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>that they're not real new Yorkers like hip problem is

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<v Speaker 1>not me and the democrats hip problems themselves. Who are

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<v Speaker 1>they are they? These extreme conservatives who are right to

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<v Speaker 1>life a poor assault weapon? It? Hikay? Is that who

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<v Speaker 1>they are? Because if that's who they are, and if

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<v Speaker 1>they are the extreme conservatives, they have no face in

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<v Speaker 1>the state of New York citizens. That's not who New

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<v Speaker 1>Yorkers are. That's not who New Yorkers are. Now he

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<v Speaker 1>said something else that's even more interesting. It's now that

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying good riddance to Donald Trump. We did and

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<v Speaker 1>they're leaving. Listen, we have one of the most progressive

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<v Speaker 1>tax codes in the United States, which is a good thing,

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<v Speaker 1>which means the richer you are, the more you pay. However,

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<v Speaker 1>that presents a very fragile economy because then you are

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<v Speaker 1>relying on a very small number of people for the

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<v Speaker 1>vast amount of your tax dollars. One percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>taxpayers pay nearly half of all the taxes. One percent

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<v Speaker 1>pay nearly half of all those taxes. Those one percent

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<v Speaker 1>are the richest people in the state. They're the richest

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<v Speaker 1>people in the country. And they are the most mobile

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<v Speaker 1>people in the country. And you see the chart on

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom, top one percent, about forty six percent, top

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<v Speaker 1>five percent, sixty three percent of all the revenue, top

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<v Speaker 1>ten percent, seventy four percent of all the revenue. Tax

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<v Speaker 1>the rich tax, the rich, tax the rich. We did now,

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<v Speaker 1>God forbid the rich leave. They're leaving. And I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you this, Elizabeth Warren gets elected, they're going to leave

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the United States. They're not stupid rich people I never met.

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I guess maybe they're stupid rich people in terms of,

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, trust fund people. I guess maybe they're not

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<v Speaker 1>so smart. I don't know. I don't know that. I

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know those people. Everybody I know that made money

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>in life work their ass off. Everybody I don't know

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>anybody that works an eight hour day. I'm like, what.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's nobody on my team that we know. When

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 1>we talk about this, they're all in their eyes. They like,

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.239
<v Speaker 1>we deserve our free lunch you buy us every day,

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 1>had any We deserve the bonuses that you give us

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 1>for Christmas, And they do. That's why I give it

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 1>to them. But I mean, everyone goes all in. Nobody

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 1>doesn't answer my call or text on a weekend, Linda.

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>If I text you on a weekend, how quick do

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I want an answer the weekday before? Yeah? And by

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>the way, I have rules. The only one who gets

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<v Speaker 1>away with not texting me back is Uncle James. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the only one. He has an exception. He just steadfastly

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>refuses to cooperate with texting. It drives me nuts. You

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 1>know it's true. So you mean James doesn't have any

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<v Speaker 1>of the normal, full normalities in any phone call ever. Yeah,

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the man who does not say hello, goodbye, listen, but

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>he does his great job. He does. See, he's the

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>best of what he does. Like everybody else we have

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>working for us. Um. I love how the article today

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<v Speaker 1>Trump would without the trumpiness, would win election in a landslide.

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, you don't have Trump then, Look, this

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<v Speaker 1>is about the country. We have a lot of things

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 1>to fix here. We first got to fix this republic.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to get established the rule of law again,

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<v Speaker 1>equal justice under the law again, equal applications of our

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>loan again, of our laws again. Ron Johnson demands demanding

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>the DOJ release secret Hillary Obama emails, Yeah, it's time

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 1>she got away with primes. It needs to be gone

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<v Speaker 1>back to deep state operatives. Premeditated fraud on a FISA court,

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 1>that needs to be We need to hold people accountable,

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>those that were spying illegally on a president of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, those that would subvert and leak information that

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<v Speaker 1>no whey whether president has ever had to deal with. Yeah,

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>that one needs to get to the bottom of. That's

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>all gonna But at the end of the day, the screaming,

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the yelling, the injustice, the unfairness, the obsession, the hate,

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 1>it's never gonna go away. There's only one antidote to

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>what's going on. Because they want Elizabeth Warren or somebody

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 1>like her in some new green deal person that will

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>destroy the country that we love and grew up in.

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Socialism will fail, and it will fail spectacularly, and people

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>with money will leave, they'll stop investing, they'll find others

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>safe havens to invest. An opportunity will go away, and

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 1>America will go into a precipitous, rapid decline because these

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 1>are promises that can never be fulfilled. One year in

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<v Speaker 1>two days from now, it doesn't matter what Pelosi and

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the compromise, corrupt congenital liar Adam Schiff, do you get

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>the last word one year, two days from today, mister mccape,

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<v Speaker 1>if you would, would you be able to just say

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<v Speaker 1>with specificity, what the FBI verified in the Steel dossier

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<v Speaker 1>before using it in FIES applications. I've heard generally, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard generalities, but specifically what was verified in the

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<v Speaker 1>dossier before it was used, and also if there's an

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<v Speaker 1>explanation for why in the FIES applications the FBI didn't

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<v Speaker 1>just say, you know directly or indirectly that Steel, Christopher

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<v Speaker 1>Steel was being paid by the Clinton campaign. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of caveats, and there's a lengthy footnote in there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was just wondering if you'd be able to

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<v Speaker 1>answer those two questions. Sure, So the answer to your

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<v Speaker 1>first question is no, I will not go into specificity

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<v Speaker 1>about what the FBI verified prior to the FISA or after.

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<v Speaker 1>And the answer to your second question is I will wait,

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm sure you will, eagerly to see what mister

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<v Speaker 1>Harrowitz's conclusions are in that report. That's a matter that

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<v Speaker 1>he is, assume at the center of his investigation, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am anxious to see what his thoughts on it are.

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<v Speaker 1>As you've mentioned, there was an extensive and detailed explanation

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<v Speaker 1>inserted by the Department of Justice into that FISE, a

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<v Speaker 1>package that everyone involved believed accurately or I should speak

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 1>for everyone else, I'll speak for myself. I believed accurately

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 1>reflected what we knew about mister Steele. So well anxious

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<v Speaker 1>to hear what the IG thinks about that, and we

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<v Speaker 1>probably won't have to wait too much longer. The reason

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<v Speaker 1>why mister Trump has this very contensed relationship with CIA

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<v Speaker 1>and FBI and the deep state people and you me yeah, specifically,

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:02.840
<v Speaker 1>is because they tell the truth, because they cannot be

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<v Speaker 1>manipulated like clay in his hands, because they will stand

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<v Speaker 1>up and speak out when things are wrong, and they'll

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 1>tell him what the truth is, and the truth he

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:16.280
<v Speaker 1>fears because he has lived on anything but the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>not just during his presidency but even before that. So

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<v Speaker 1>thank goodness for the women and men who are at

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<v Speaker 1>the intel's community and law enforcement communities who are standing

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<v Speaker 1>up and carrying out their responsibilities in behalf of their

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<v Speaker 1>fellow citizens. That John Brennan, by the way, he's basically saying,

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<v Speaker 1>thank goodness for members of the deep state. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>would be abusing power if you weaponize the powerful tools

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<v Speaker 1>of intelligence. McCabe not answering a question about what the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI verified in the Steel Dacier or the steal's role

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<v Speaker 1>and Hillary's campaign. We already have the answers to those questions.

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<v Speaker 1>We know they didn't verify it and it's unverifiable. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>it was the bulk of information used in the is

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<v Speaker 1>a warrant application process, which says at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the application verified. That means that was premeditated fraud against

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<v Speaker 1>the FISA court or the purpose of obtaining a warrant

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<v Speaker 1>on Carter page, by the way, taking away all of

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<v Speaker 1>his constitutional rights. Remember McCabe once said, famously, now infamously

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps that without the dossier, there's there's no FISA warrant. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how powerful it was, the bulk of information according

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<v Speaker 1>to the Grassly Graham memo, Nunes memo. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>the dirty bought and paid for Russian dossier that nobody

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<v Speaker 1>cared about for three years when we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Russian interference. Just like nobody in the mob in the

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<v Speaker 1>media cares about Ukrainian interference in the twenty sixteen election,

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<v Speaker 1>and a Ukrainian court has even said they interfered. They

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<v Speaker 1>are willing to give us the evidence that they interfered.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden, doesn't you know, just like they don't care

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<v Speaker 1>that Biden, you know, in a quid pro quote bragging

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<v Speaker 1>about leverage the billion taxpayer of dollars for the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of firing a prosecutor. You know, you're not getting the million,

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<v Speaker 1>You're not getting the billion dollars. I'm gonna take it

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<v Speaker 1>home unless you fire that guy. You got six hours.

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<v Speaker 1>If you fire him, you get the money. Quid pro quo.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did he want to fire a prosecutor in Ukraine? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that was investigating his own son who had

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<v Speaker 1>no experience in Ukraine oil energy gas, but was paid

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars while he was the vice president of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States and not the only country. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's this is getting to a point we better start

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<v Speaker 1>getting on track. Look, if we're gonna have deep state

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<v Speaker 1>Brennan operatives leaking whatever they want, non whistleblower whistleblowers, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not a whistleblower. This would be called a leaker. This

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<v Speaker 1>would be called somebody colluding with Adam sh staff and

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<v Speaker 1>to what extent with Brennan. I hope we one day

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<v Speaker 1>find out. But the house of cards in many ways

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 1>is coming tumbling down. We now know the Durham investigation

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<v Speaker 1>is officially a criminal investigation with the ability to subpoena

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<v Speaker 1>and convene a grand jury and charges be laid out.

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<v Speaker 1>I would expect we're going to have people charged at

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<v Speaker 1>some point. We're going to before Thanksgiving. Finally, I am

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<v Speaker 1>told get the ever so anticipated FISA Inspector General report.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see if premeditative fraud on a FISA quarters revealed.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody who has been just killing it and exposing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the corruption from the Obama Justice Department is

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<v Speaker 1>Sidney Powell, friend of this program. She is now the

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<v Speaker 1>attorney for General Michael Flynn, author of the definitive book

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<v Speaker 1>on prosecutorial miss abuse, Licensed to Lie, is here to

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<v Speaker 1>update us on what she's discovering in the Flynn case

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:08.360
<v Speaker 1>because it runs parallel to all the things we're discussing.

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<v Speaker 1>Sidney Powell, welcome back. How's General Flynn. Where are you

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<v Speaker 1>with the case? Because, as you said, you expect the

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<v Speaker 1>judge is not gonna well obviously postponing sentencing and you

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:26.399
<v Speaker 1>believe the prosecutors could be held in contempt. Ultimately, yes,

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:29.800
<v Speaker 1>the judge is not postponed sentencing yet, but he canceled

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<v Speaker 1>oral arguments for next week because of the comprehensive briefing

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:38.320
<v Speaker 1>of the parties. That was our comprehensive brief primarily, and

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<v Speaker 1>he did allow the government to file a third reply,

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<v Speaker 1>which they just did today that it's really absolutely nothing

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:49.359
<v Speaker 1>new and more evidence they simply dwell in an alternative

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 1>universe of their own imagining. They keep going back to

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<v Speaker 1>the fact he pled guilty and waived all his rights,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they tell us they knew his counsel was

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<v Speaker 1>conflict did but they never raised that issue with the court,

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<v Speaker 1>so we expect to have fun writing our reply brief,

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<v Speaker 1>which we will file by Monday. Okay, what are you discovering?

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<v Speaker 1>What tell us paint the picture for people maybe that

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 1>don't understand what we do know certain things about the case.

0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 1>We know that James comes on tape bragging that oh

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:25.439
<v Speaker 1>I did something I'd never do, or get away within

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>the Bush or Obama years, and yeah, I sent my

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<v Speaker 1>guys over to take advantage of the chaos of the

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:35.720
<v Speaker 1>new Trump administration. On day four, Andrew McCabe was asked

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<v Speaker 1>by General Flynt if he needed an attorney when he

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<v Speaker 1>heard FBI guys were coming to see him. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, not at all. But in fact that

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<v Speaker 1>was an interrogation and they did deny him. Miranda Rights,

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<v Speaker 1>tell us what else that you have discovered? Oh, it's stunning, Sean.

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<v Speaker 1>They actually planned all of that at length. Struck admits

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<v Speaker 1>that he and McCabe met numerous times to decide whether

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<v Speaker 1>to end interview Flynn and how to go about it.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a small group meeting the day before the

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<v Speaker 1>interview of General Flynn in which they strategized about how

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<v Speaker 1>to keep him relaxed and unguarded for the interview, the

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:19.520
<v Speaker 1>struck Page text messages we found and knew when the

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 1>government never produced that indicated struck and was sitting around

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<v Speaker 1>talking with Bill Prestep the night of January tenth about

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 1>using the Steele dossier in the news as a pretext

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:36.360
<v Speaker 1>to interview people. Of course, Flynn was interviewed within fourteen

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:40.240
<v Speaker 1>days of that. I believe they knew their entire investigation

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 1>or claim for a reason to investigate, was a pretext.

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:48.840
<v Speaker 1>They had copies of the telephone calls. All his calls

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:52.359
<v Speaker 1>with the ambassador were already recorded, and they had transcripts

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 1>of them. They didn't have to go interview him to

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<v Speaker 1>find out what the Russian ambassador said. They knew he

0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 1>had said and done nothing wrong. The entire interview was

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:06.880
<v Speaker 1>a pretext and carefully planned and strategized and orchestrated to

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 1>take advantage of him believing they were friends and allies.

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<v Speaker 1>When did you where is it? Specifically because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>recall Adam from my own memory reading any struck page

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 1>text specifically going into the details of this. Some were

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:31.680
<v Speaker 1>produced to prior counsel in the government's productions that dribbled

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 1>out over the year before he played After Judge Sullivan

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 1>came on the case, he entered what's called a Brady

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Order requiring the government to turn over information favorable to

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the defense, and under that they dribbled out things. Frankly,

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:48.240
<v Speaker 1>most of it was dribbled out only as it became

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 1>publicly available through other sources like the Komi admission, for example.

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 1>They knew of that a year earlier before they even

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:02.720
<v Speaker 1>spoke to mister Flynn in interviewing him, and they didn't

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 1>produce it to the defense until four days before his

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 1>sentencing was scheduled in Judge Sullivan's court, So they had

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 1>that for well over a year. I mean, it's just

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:15.800
<v Speaker 1>remarkable the way they went about orchestrating all of this.

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Explain what happened that moment where Judge Sullivan, I think,

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>believed something about General Flynn and left the chambers and

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 1>came back and there was an apology given what happened

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:29.400
<v Speaker 1>in that instance, Well, I wondered, as I was sitting

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:31.360
<v Speaker 1>there at the time I happened to be in the

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 1>courtroom that day, I was wondering it almost felt like

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Judge Sullivan was pushing General Flynn to scream out, no,

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:41.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm innocent. I didn't do this. I mean, it felt

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 1>to me like he did not want to proceed with

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:47.799
<v Speaker 1>the sentencing that day, and ultimately he didn't. He suggested

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<v Speaker 1>to the defense that they, if I recall, he also

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<v Speaker 1>didn't he say something, Well, my answer is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be any different if we don't do it today.

0:42:56.880 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember that exactly. He did launch off on

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<v Speaker 1>a suggestion that the general had arguably sold out his

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:06.719
<v Speaker 1>country while he was in the White House, and that's

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 1>what he had to walk back when he came back

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:11.719
<v Speaker 1>on the bench. But we don't know, of course what

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the government had given him, sealed an ex parte that

0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:18.759
<v Speaker 1>misled him into thinking that, well, I mean, so why

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 1>would the government be allowed to give him anything without

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>you having all the time it happens all the time

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<v Speaker 1>in criminal cases. Well you know stuff in that file

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that I'm not aware of. Well, I mean,

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:34.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to understand because it's taken so long. I thought,

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 1>as a matter of law that any evidence must be

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 1>presented to the other side, especially sculptory evidence, which, by

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the way, you deal with a lot how often it

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:52.800
<v Speaker 1>is sadly withheld When there's instances of prosecutorial abuse, and

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 1>that's the problem here. The government's claiming they've given us

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 1>more than we were entitled to. So the judge is

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:01.320
<v Speaker 1>going to have to intervene to order us to be

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:04.759
<v Speaker 1>given more. And the problem for any defendant is he

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:08.400
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know what he doesn't know. The government literally holds

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:11.319
<v Speaker 1>all the cards, and they routinely say, oh, well, that's

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:14.400
<v Speaker 1>not exculpatory, but they're not in a position to decide that.

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 1>They're even claiming here that the text message we found

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 1>on our own that Struck was sitting around talking with

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Bill Preestapp about the pretext for the interview. They claimed

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:27.360
<v Speaker 1>that had nothing to do with Flynn. So that's not

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:30.840
<v Speaker 1>exculpatory to us. That is amazing to me. You know.

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:32.840
<v Speaker 1>One of the things we do know certain things in

0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:36.960
<v Speaker 1>the case. We do know that they yeah had unmasked

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 1>General Flynn. We do know that they had all they

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 1>had the full conversation. We do know that he was

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>denied his miranda and basic constitutional rights by the deputy

0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 1>FBI Director McCabe at the time. We do know that

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:54.320
<v Speaker 1>this was a setup. I callmey that he's bragging about.

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's how we now treat thirty three year veterans.

0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:00.320
<v Speaker 1>And we know that he didn't lie because the FBI

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 1>interrogators themselves, even after all of this, didn't think he

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:08.239
<v Speaker 1>was lying correct correct, So and then we know that

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:11.680
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day he was still pled

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<v Speaker 1>guilty because they were threatening to go after his son.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that correct? That's correct? That and he had been

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<v Speaker 1>almost bankrupted by that time. The legal fees were enormous

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<v Speaker 1>just from the purported fare A violations. He was a

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:33.240
<v Speaker 1>pet paid Cunnington over a million dollars by early summer,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the Special Council stuff started. Let me pick

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>up there. When we get back out, Sidney Powell, attorney

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<v Speaker 1>for General Michael Flynn with us. We're getting close. We're

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:46.279
<v Speaker 1>going to get this information and it can't come soon enough.

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Joe Concho on our corrupt media will get to that.

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 1>A fascinating view of the Jeffrey Epstein suicide by doctor

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Michael Boden and David Schoen who was representing him. Coming

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:02.280
<v Speaker 1>up we can with a Sydney Powell, attorney for General

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:05.360
<v Speaker 1>Michael Flint, as we update that case. Do you believe

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<v Speaker 1>that when we get the Inspector General report on Fier

0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:13.040
<v Speaker 1>abuse and then later the Durham Report, that there's going

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 1>to be an intersection of issues that will involve your client,

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 1>General Flint. I think there will be. I'm very much

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:23.280
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to the Fiser report. Now, do you believe

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 1>as I do, that the only conclusion has to be

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:30.800
<v Speaker 1>because there were multiple warnings that this was premeditated fraud.

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:34.960
<v Speaker 1>It was an unverifiable dirty dossier paid for by Hillary,

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 1>but it's premeditated fraud on a court just buying a

0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 1>presidential candidate, transition team and president. Yes. I listened to

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:44.440
<v Speaker 1>what mister McCabe said as you played the opening, and

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:48.280
<v Speaker 1>I was appalled that anyone would consider that an accurate

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:52.640
<v Speaker 1>representation of what had happened with respect to Christopher Steele.

0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you believe there'll be justice because of everybody

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 1>is saying, Hannity, we've known this for a long time

0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:00.359
<v Speaker 1>now and now nothing has happened. Do you believe there

0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:03.720
<v Speaker 1>will be justice? I do believe there will be justice.

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I think there has to be justice or we're lost

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:10.960
<v Speaker 1>as a republic. It's a pretty scary admonition. Sydney Powell. Yes,

0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:14.320
<v Speaker 1>it is. Yeah, all right, our best to General Flynn.

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 1>By the way, people want to get ahold of you.

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:20.320
<v Speaker 1>How do they do it? Www dot Mike Flynn Defense

0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Fund dot org. All right, Sydney Powell, attorney for General

0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Michael Flynn. Eight hundred nine four one, Shaun is a

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:30.320
<v Speaker 1>number when we come back. Joe Concha on the corrupt

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 1>media bias that is influencing all things political and impeachment

0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:37.799
<v Speaker 1>madness and much more. As we continue, all right twenty

0:47:37.840 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 1>five to the top of the hour. Glad you're with us.

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred nine four one, Shawn, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of the program. Top of the next hour.

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is I know Michael Boden for years.

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:53.399
<v Speaker 1>He's been a chief medical Examiner of fame, forensic pathologist,

0:47:53.560 --> 0:47:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, done more autopsies than we'd ever want to know. Anyway,

0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:00.400
<v Speaker 1>he was sat it on the autopsy at Jeffrey Epstein

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:03.320
<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't believe that this guy killed himself. He

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:07.360
<v Speaker 1>said that the evidence points dramatically more in the different

0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:10.680
<v Speaker 1>in the way of a strangulation. We'll talk to him

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:13.799
<v Speaker 1>and one of the attorneys that was brought in at

0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:16.000
<v Speaker 1>last minute in an Epstein case. We'll get to that.

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<v Speaker 1>So last night, one of the most requested things that

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:22.240
<v Speaker 1>we've been running on TV. Is it. It's two minutes

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:25.439
<v Speaker 1>in eighteen seconds, and it starts the day two days

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<v Speaker 1>after election day, twenty sixteen, and it's all through twenty seventeen,

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:33.879
<v Speaker 1>all through twenty eighteen, all through twenty nineteen. And it's

0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:38.360
<v Speaker 1>just a sampling of how many times the radical extreme

0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Democrats and the mob in the media said, impeach, impeach, impeach, impeach, impeach, impeach.

0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Now it's a little bit more visual, but I think

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:50.719
<v Speaker 1>it's worth playing on radio because you know, we put

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:52.600
<v Speaker 1>in the typing noise, and the typing noise that you

0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:56.280
<v Speaker 1>here is a visual of a date. So just imagine

0:48:56.320 --> 0:48:59.879
<v Speaker 1>in your mind's eye that this is going all through again,

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 1>starting two days after election day, all the way through

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen, all the way through twenty eighteen, all the

0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:08.840
<v Speaker 1>way up to today. And this is just a small

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 1>sampling impeachment mania. And it just shows you because there's

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:18.400
<v Speaker 1>nothing to impeach the president for. We have the transcript.

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<v Speaker 1>President's funny say, maybe I'll do a fireside chat and

0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:23.440
<v Speaker 1>read it, and the mob just you know, to get

0:49:23.560 --> 0:49:25.960
<v Speaker 1>triggered again. Can you believe this? It's going to read

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the transcript oh, I mean everyone's interpretation that they put

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<v Speaker 1>so much value on. Let the American people hear what

0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:35.560
<v Speaker 1>the President said. Cracks me up, actually, but here it is,

0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:37.439
<v Speaker 1>and then we're gonna go come on the other side

0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 1>of it with our buddy Joe Conscha straight ahead. If

0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:41.680
<v Speaker 1>he takes the risk of going to trying he's convicted,

0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:44.680
<v Speaker 1>that could be seen as an impeachable offense. If Trump

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:46.920
<v Speaker 1>were caught on a video camera snorting cocaine in the

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 1>White House, maybe with one of his children, there was

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:51.360
<v Speaker 1>at least a chance he'd be impeach if he's not

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:55.760
<v Speaker 1>a legitimately elected president. In your mind, there are tools

0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:58.440
<v Speaker 1>that Congress had. I don't see how that wouldn't be

0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:03.360
<v Speaker 1>an impeachable That tweet fits the Republican definition of an

0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:08.960
<v Speaker 1>impeachable offense. I will fight every day until he is impeached.

0:50:09.320 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Peace body bye, and peach body by grounds for impeachments.

0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:21.600
<v Speaker 1>An impeachable offense, perhaps impeachable offense is impeachment the appropriate

0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:24.520
<v Speaker 1>remedy something for the Congress like impeachment. All that may

0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:27.920
<v Speaker 1>be impeachable. That's an impeachable offense is that an impeachable

0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:31.239
<v Speaker 1>offense is that an impeachable offense. To you, he's much

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:35.279
<v Speaker 1>more vulnerable to impeachment, a potential ingredient of impeachment. Where

0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:38.160
<v Speaker 1>do you see in a peachafbul offense? It is grounds

0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:42.480
<v Speaker 1>for impeachment, for impeachment potentially criminal or even impeachable grounds

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 1>for impeachment or does that not go far enough in

0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:48.319
<v Speaker 1>your view? Grounds four impeachment? This tweet alone maybe an

0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:51.640
<v Speaker 1>impeachable offense. Let's talk about impeachment. Impeachment is on the table?

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Which impeachable offense? Fully stolen? And I think, baby, they

0:50:55.600 --> 0:50:58.120
<v Speaker 1>talk because we're gonna go in there, We're gonna impeach them.

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you see an impeachable set of offenses? It's an

0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:06.840
<v Speaker 1>impeachable offense. If that's not impeachable, I don't know what is.

0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:09.680
<v Speaker 1>The president shall be removed from office on impeachment? Is

0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:15.320
<v Speaker 1>it impeachable? Is impeachable? Very substantial evidence that the president

0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:19.320
<v Speaker 1>is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanor grounds for impeachment.

0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:22.839
<v Speaker 1>Tipping point to talk of impeachment reaches a fever pitch

0:51:22.920 --> 0:51:26.680
<v Speaker 1>on Capitol Hill. That's the madness we've now lived through.

0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Starting two days after Donald Trump was elected. This is

0:51:31.840 --> 0:51:34.640
<v Speaker 1>to them as I said yesterday for the mob and

0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:37.520
<v Speaker 1>the media that this is a mission from God. They

0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:41.919
<v Speaker 1>know better. They can't believe that they lost. They can't

0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:45.640
<v Speaker 1>believe Muller didn't get them. They can't believe Russia flopped

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:48.680
<v Speaker 1>and blew up in their face. They don't know it yet,

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:52.520
<v Speaker 1>but this is blowing up in their face. I am

0:51:52.640 --> 0:51:56.160
<v Speaker 1>looking at numbers that well, I have let's say, friends

0:51:56.200 --> 0:52:00.160
<v Speaker 1>and high places that do polling and share with me

0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:03.279
<v Speaker 1>what they see and what's going on. And what they're

0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:07.480
<v Speaker 1>seeing is that what the Democrats are doing is driving

0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party off a cliff. And when you look

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:13.000
<v Speaker 1>at some of the polling numbers that I have seen,

0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:15.240
<v Speaker 1>and I have a lot of poster friends around the country,

0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:20.480
<v Speaker 1>that support for the president has increased, and very specifically

0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:24.680
<v Speaker 1>in the key target states that would be most necessary

0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:27.920
<v Speaker 1>for the president to win re election. And his favorability

0:52:27.960 --> 0:52:31.320
<v Speaker 1>has never been higher among Republicans and increasing as we go.

0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:36.800
<v Speaker 1>And more Americans, by the way, now want Joe Biden investigated.

0:52:37.000 --> 0:52:40.680
<v Speaker 1>They understand what happened with the real quid pro quo,

0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:44.200
<v Speaker 1>which is the you got six hours if you fire him,

0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you a billion dollars. You don't fire him,

0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:48.640
<v Speaker 1>you're not getting the money. And then as dope sun

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:50.960
<v Speaker 1>or do you have any experience with the Ukraine? No?

0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Any experience? And energy? No oil, no gas, no nothing none.

0:52:56.800 --> 0:52:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Why do you think you were on the board. I

0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:01.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I have served on MR once, I was

0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:04.640
<v Speaker 1>on the board at Amtrak. That's not experience. And why

0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:07.080
<v Speaker 1>did you get that position? Next question, Well, you think

0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:10.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's because it's your father's last name. Probably Anyway,

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:14.520
<v Speaker 1>here to break down the insanity of the media, Joe

0:53:14.600 --> 0:53:17.359
<v Speaker 1>conscious with us. He's a calumnist, media calumnist of the Hill.

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:19.680
<v Speaker 1>He also hosts his own show on our New York affiliate,

0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:23.120
<v Speaker 1>the All New AM seven ten w R. How are you,

0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:27.320
<v Speaker 1>sir doing? Grade Sean, That was an interesting breakdown that

0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:30.080
<v Speaker 1>you just had. And I've seen some numbers as well

0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:33.080
<v Speaker 1>that you've talked about in those key battleground states where

0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:36.319
<v Speaker 1>impeachment is under water by double digits. In other words,

0:53:36.360 --> 0:53:41.200
<v Speaker 1>people that approve of what the Democrats are doing currently

0:53:41.280 --> 0:53:43.080
<v Speaker 1>on Capitol Hill and they want him to concentrate on

0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:47.360
<v Speaker 1>other topics like the opioid crisis and healthcare and immigration,

0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:50.239
<v Speaker 1>so by taking their eye off the ball, and when

0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:53.040
<v Speaker 1>this thing ends, with the president not being removed from office,

0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:56.799
<v Speaker 1>because again, you need twenty GOP senators to defect. An

0:53:56.800 --> 0:54:00.440
<v Speaker 1>outside of Mitt Romney and Pierre de Lecto, who's really

0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:03.840
<v Speaker 1>only one person, I don't really see any Republicans that

0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:06.719
<v Speaker 1>are going to go against the party and vote to

0:54:06.800 --> 0:54:08.279
<v Speaker 1>remove the presidents. So we know how the movie is

0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:10.680
<v Speaker 1>going to end. And then after all that, Democrats are

0:54:10.680 --> 0:54:13.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to say, Okay, voters, here's what we've done

0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:15.160
<v Speaker 1>since we took back the House in twenty eighteen, and

0:54:15.200 --> 0:54:18.319
<v Speaker 1>they'll be able to point to almost nothing. And when

0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:21.320
<v Speaker 1>you can't make lives in the American people better and

0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:23.840
<v Speaker 1>you're only running on negativity, and Hillary Clinton can attest

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:26.040
<v Speaker 1>to this by just saying Donald Trump's a bad guy,

0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:28.840
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna lose the same way you lost in twenty sixteen.

0:54:29.239 --> 0:54:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be worse because I think is

0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:36.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think first of all, the fundamental unfairness

0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:39.799
<v Speaker 1>of this, you know, the secret Soviet style impeachment coup

0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:45.160
<v Speaker 1>hearings being led by somebody who's compromised himself, which is

0:54:45.360 --> 0:54:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the cowardly shift. I mean, I mean, you got him compromise.

0:54:50.080 --> 0:54:52.440
<v Speaker 1>He's a fact witness in the case, and he's running

0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:54.560
<v Speaker 1>this whole charide and he's been lying as a congenital

0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:56.880
<v Speaker 1>liar that's been, you know, out there telling us we

0:54:56.960 --> 0:54:59.879
<v Speaker 1>have all the evidence Trump prusher collusion. They couldn't pick

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:03.640
<v Speaker 1>a worst person to run this, So that's not popular.

0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Then they still are not giving any due process because

0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:10.160
<v Speaker 1>he's the judge, jury executioner, and they given no rights

0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:12.360
<v Speaker 1>that say new King Ridge gave Bill Clinton and his

0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:15.879
<v Speaker 1>attorney's a nineteen ninety eight or Democrats gave Nixon when

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:19.120
<v Speaker 1>they tried to impeach him. So I see this going

0:55:19.440 --> 0:55:21.680
<v Speaker 1>getting worse and worse for them as they go alone.

0:55:21.920 --> 0:55:25.200
<v Speaker 1>If there was an honest media, even somewhat honest media here,

0:55:25.600 --> 0:55:29.400
<v Speaker 1>you would have Adam Schiff that being constantly bombarded with

0:55:29.520 --> 0:55:34.320
<v Speaker 1>tough questions and his credibility questioned during interviews and during analysis. Instead,

0:55:34.440 --> 0:55:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you saw the Washington Post today,

0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:39.040
<v Speaker 1>but they have a lead story that says, and this

0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:41.879
<v Speaker 1>is literally the headline, and I literally fell off my chair.

0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:43.759
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not really a saying, I actually fell off,

0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:45.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm pretty sure I hurt my hip. Listen to this.

0:55:46.239 --> 0:55:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Adam Shift once wanted to be a screenwriter can he

0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:54.160
<v Speaker 1>give the Trump presidency a Hollywood ending? That's a Washington

0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Post story, And that's the type of love that an

0:55:56.640 --> 0:55:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Adam Shift gets. It's the type of love that Elizabeth

0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Warren which he puts worth proposal today fifty two trillion

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:08.480
<v Speaker 1>dollars for Medicare for all, when our entire federal budget

0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:11.480
<v Speaker 1>is four trillion per year. Even if we spend it,

0:56:12.360 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 1>you got rid of every single program and every single

0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:17.000
<v Speaker 1>expenditure that we have, we still couldn't pay for it.

0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Is that going to be fact checked the way that

0:56:19.040 --> 0:56:22.120
<v Speaker 1>a Trump proposal would? Of course not. So the problem

0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:24.640
<v Speaker 1>is twofold. I'm going to make two very obvious observations.

0:56:24.640 --> 0:56:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Sean most in political media load the president. We know that.

0:56:27.800 --> 0:56:30.799
<v Speaker 1>But it's also very good for business. So that's whole

0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:33.759
<v Speaker 1>the incentive because you get ratings and clicks to go up.

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:37.320
<v Speaker 1>So look in terms of Trump and in terms of

0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the way this is going to go. They aren't there

0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the media to serve their viewers and readers. It's to

0:56:41.960 --> 0:56:45.240
<v Speaker 1>be accepted within the bubble and love by their peers

0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:47.840
<v Speaker 1>and to get that next contract offer from your boss.

0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:51.279
<v Speaker 1>At these more liberal networks and publications, if you go

0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:53.799
<v Speaker 1>after Trump as hard as possible. I'm just surprised there

0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:55.840
<v Speaker 1>aren't more contrarians to just say, look, I'm going to

0:56:55.880 --> 0:56:58.520
<v Speaker 1>give an honest opinion. If I you know, an unpredictable,

0:56:58.800 --> 0:57:01.200
<v Speaker 1>unpredictable type of person this business, that's a good thing

0:57:01.239 --> 0:57:02.920
<v Speaker 1>because people don't know what you're gonna say next. That's

0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:05.200
<v Speaker 1>a good thing in this business when you're honest and

0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:08.400
<v Speaker 1>people can spot authenticity. But we don't see that anymore.

0:57:08.440 --> 0:57:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Everybody just wants to be accepted and do what their

0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:13.360
<v Speaker 1>bosses think they should say and what they think viewers

0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:15.320
<v Speaker 1>want to hear, instead of what they should here. And

0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:17.160
<v Speaker 1>it's such a shame. I thought there were more a

0:57:17.280 --> 0:57:19.280
<v Speaker 1>couple of more people that had some you know, for

0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:21.040
<v Speaker 1>lack of a better term, balls in this business, but

0:57:21.120 --> 0:57:23.919
<v Speaker 1>they don't. Everybody just wants to conform to the high

0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:26.120
<v Speaker 1>mentality and move forward with this because they don't know

0:57:26.200 --> 0:57:30.320
<v Speaker 1>any other way. All right, stay there, Joe Concho with us, right?

0:57:30.360 --> 0:57:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Think you continue? Joe Concho is with as opinion media

0:57:33.360 --> 0:57:36.560
<v Speaker 1>writer for The Hill and fellow host on WR in

0:57:36.640 --> 0:57:40.400
<v Speaker 1>New York. It's interesting, well, you once formerly worked at media.

0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:42.600
<v Speaker 1>They I forget who wrote the column, but I saw

0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:45.360
<v Speaker 1>a column in the last couple of days there about

0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:48.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, all these people that work at you know,

0:57:48.560 --> 0:57:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I call it Area fifty one, Roswell, Rachel Maddow's channel,

0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:58.080
<v Speaker 1>MSDNC or fake news CNN. You know, they don't. There

0:57:58.280 --> 0:58:01.520
<v Speaker 1>is no delineation like there is a Fox. Like for example,

0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I keep telling everybody will listen what I do for

0:58:04.360 --> 0:58:05.960
<v Speaker 1>a living, Hannity, what do you do for a living?

0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm a talk show host. What is a talk show host? Well,

0:58:09.120 --> 0:58:12.160
<v Speaker 1>it's all encompassing. It's like the full newspaper because we

0:58:12.360 --> 0:58:15.600
<v Speaker 1>do reporting, straight news reporting, and I can produce thousands

0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:20.040
<v Speaker 1>of hours, and we do investigative reporting, vetting Obama or

0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:23.440
<v Speaker 1>what we've discovered with a deep state buys a the

0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:29.240
<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clinton rigged investigation, outsourcing, intelligence gathering, you know, all

0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the real Russian news that they ignored that we're going

0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:34.040
<v Speaker 1>to learn an awful lot about in the days to come.

0:58:34.960 --> 0:58:37.200
<v Speaker 1>But then we also do opinion, and I'm honest that

0:58:37.320 --> 0:58:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm a conservative and I support the president's conservative policies.

0:58:41.840 --> 0:58:44.760
<v Speaker 1>And we also talk about sports and culture and talk

0:58:44.840 --> 0:58:47.680
<v Speaker 1>to friends like you about media. So we do everything.

0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:50.720
<v Speaker 1>But they say that their news, They claim that these

0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:54.760
<v Speaker 1>primetime hosts are newspeople. They even allow Area fifty one

0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Roswell Rachel to be one of their moderators in debates.

0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Imagine if Fox let me be a model raider in

0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:04.040
<v Speaker 1>a Republican debate. I remember Rachel Maddow. She was on

0:59:04.160 --> 0:59:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Bill Marshow a couple of years ago, and she was

0:59:06.600 --> 0:59:09.560
<v Speaker 1>actually challenged by a guy named Nichollespie who writes for

0:59:09.720 --> 0:59:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I Believe Reason, and he's a pretty honest guy. He's

0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:14.120
<v Speaker 1>down the middle, or least is authentic, like I was

0:59:14.120 --> 0:59:17.840
<v Speaker 1>talking about authentic before. And he challenged her on some

0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:19.680
<v Speaker 1>of her opinions. And at one point she had the

0:59:19.720 --> 0:59:22.920
<v Speaker 1>audacity to say, I don't do my show to give

0:59:23.000 --> 0:59:25.240
<v Speaker 1>my opinion on things. I'm here to report the news.

0:59:25.280 --> 0:59:27.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like, no, you're not. Just say you're an opinion person.

0:59:27.680 --> 0:59:30.840
<v Speaker 1>It's okay. And then on CNN, where you look down

0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:34.280
<v Speaker 1>their lineup at eight to eleven o'clock, Anderson Cooper, Chris Cuomo,

0:59:34.400 --> 0:59:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Don Lemon, they all are listed as anchors. They're presented

0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:40.680
<v Speaker 1>as anchors as people just asking questions and not taking

0:59:40.760 --> 0:59:42.960
<v Speaker 1>a side, and we all know that's not true. And

0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that's why so many people are turned off

0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:47.280
<v Speaker 1>by the media because they're sick of having their intelligence

0:59:47.360 --> 0:59:51.800
<v Speaker 1>insulted by people being presented as objective people when you know,

0:59:52.040 --> 0:59:54.400
<v Speaker 1>most people are opinion at that point, because, let's face it,

0:59:54.480 --> 0:59:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that's a little sexier and that's a more fun place

0:59:56.960 --> 0:59:58.600
<v Speaker 1>to be than just being a straight reporter where there

0:59:58.600 --> 1:00:01.120
<v Speaker 1>aren't too many people like that anymore. So, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think people are just more honest about where they stood

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<v Speaker 1>and who they are and who they support. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they have a lot more respect. Quite frankly, what did

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<v Speaker 1>you think of this story that came out earlier today

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<v Speaker 1>about the whistle blower's lawyer now threatening journalists to keep

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<v Speaker 1>his identity a secret. And you know, I found the

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<v Speaker 1>words actually really interesting. This is in light of Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Sperry in real clear investigations and his peace and about

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<v Speaker 1>an open secret inside the Beltway. I'm sure, like me,

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<v Speaker 1>you knew about this identity long before Sperry put it

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<v Speaker 1>out there. I just haven't been able to confirm it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just wait. Our client is legally entitled to anonymity.

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<v Speaker 1>Disclosure of the name of any person who may be

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<v Speaker 1>suspected to be the whistleblower places that individual and their

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<v Speaker 1>family in greater physical danger. Any physical harm the individual

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<v Speaker 1>and or their family suffers as a result of the

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<v Speaker 1>disclosure means that the individuals and publications reporting such names

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<v Speaker 1>will be personally liable for that harm. Such behavior is

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<v Speaker 1>the pinnacle of irresponsibility and intentionally reckless. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a hearsay non whistleblower, that is the secondhand whistle blower,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're working with the deep state, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you even qualify as a whistle blower. As my answer, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you worked for Joe Biden, and you worked for John Brennan,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're obviously a partisan, so you're longer whistleblower. You're

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<v Speaker 1>simply an activist for a political party. And boy, that

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<v Speaker 1>letter sounds like a threat to the free press to me,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it. I mean, why shouldn't we as journalists pursue

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<v Speaker 1>the name of who the whistle blower is and what

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<v Speaker 1>that person's background is to establish just like you do

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<v Speaker 1>in a murder case motive? Right, Like, why are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing this? Is it because you really are just a patriot?

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<v Speaker 1>Like the New York Times says, Oh, I gotta take

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<v Speaker 1>a break, but it makes me want to now do it?

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<v Speaker 1>It's the thing. I don't know, why have this side

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<v Speaker 1>of me my whole life. It's sort of like when

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<v Speaker 1>you know the word, if you say illegal immigrant or

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<v Speaker 1>a legal alien in New York, you can find up

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<v Speaker 1>to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So I just

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<v Speaker 1>said it four hundred times, you know, said, Okay, come

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<v Speaker 1>get me the Blasio. Good luck with that case, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna lose. I got to take a break. Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to hear from you again as always. Eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>nine four one. Shaun is on number great story at

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<v Speaker 1>the top. Doctor Biden does not believe Epstein was a

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<v Speaker 1>suicide and he was in on the autopsy. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that and your calls. Eight hundred nine four one

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<v Speaker 1>sewn our final hour on a Friday, Straight Ahead. Coming

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<v Speaker 1>up next our final news round up and Information Overload Hour.

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<v Speaker 1>When did you realize that the Epstein family needed help? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I was asked by the brother the next of Ken

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<v Speaker 1>to be at the autopsy. And at the autopsy on

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<v Speaker 1>day one, they were findings that were unusual for suicidal

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<v Speaker 1>hanging and more consistent with literature homicidal strangulation, which included

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<v Speaker 1>and he was suggested at the time that he committed

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<v Speaker 1>suicide by doing what but by hanging at the time

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<v Speaker 1>he was found allegedly hanging by a homemade literature of sheets.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you saying you don't think it was suicidal? I

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<v Speaker 1>think that the evidence points to a homicide rather than

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<v Speaker 1>suicide because there are multiple three fractures in the hyoid

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<v Speaker 1>bone the flabroid cartilage that are very unusual for suicide

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<v Speaker 1>and more indicative of strangulation, homicidal strangulation. All right, on

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<v Speaker 1>this Friday, Happy Friday News roundup Information overload hour. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to your calls at the bottom of this half hour,

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<v Speaker 1>and our best of audio for the week all coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>So this story just fascinated me because it never it

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't pass my smell test. And it's the story

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<v Speaker 1>of this suicide death of Jeffrey Epstein. Now, we had

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<v Speaker 1>had knowledge that like in the week or two before

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<v Speaker 1>the quote suicide, which it has officially now been called,

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<v Speaker 1>that he had been with some cell made to beat

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<v Speaker 1>the crap out of him. I guess, had a black

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<v Speaker 1>eye and everything else in between. But there's a certain

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<v Speaker 1>science to all of this. Another weird aspect of this

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<v Speaker 1>was okay, Usually there are rounds and checks on every prisoner,

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<v Speaker 1>and a suicide watch especially for certain individuals, and certain

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<v Speaker 1>procedures and cameras in place, and everything just didn't work

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<v Speaker 1>out the way normally would in this case. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a conspiracy theorist. I just said, hmm, just one of

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<v Speaker 1>those you know, how do you commit suicide when you're

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<v Speaker 1>like on the side of your bed and you can't

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<v Speaker 1>just hang the rope or hang the sheets and put

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<v Speaker 1>it around your neck and strangulate yourself or whatever however

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<v Speaker 1>that works. So I just had a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a question. And anyway, it turns out that the former

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<v Speaker 1>medical examiner for New York City is a friend of mine,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was hired by the family by Jeffrey Epstein's

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<v Speaker 1>brother Mark to observe the autopsy after he has found

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<v Speaker 1>hanged in this lock up in Manhattan in August. And

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<v Speaker 1>being you know, now in this business some fifty years

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty thousand autopsies later, many high profile cases, I

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<v Speaker 1>found his conclusions and observations amazing. Anyway, doctor Michael Boden

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<v Speaker 1>is with us. He is New York City's former chief

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<v Speaker 1>medical examiner. And David Shoon, who's been a friend of

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<v Speaker 1>the program, civil rights attorney. I didn't even know this

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<v Speaker 1>until recently. He had been hired by Jeffrey Epstein only

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<v Speaker 1>days before quote the so called suicide, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>been talking to Jeffrey Epstein. Anyway, welcome both of you

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<v Speaker 1>back to the program, doctor Boden. How many years let's

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<v Speaker 1>just go over your background and experience. You've done this

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<v Speaker 1>for almost fifty years, that's right, Sean. I started out

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<v Speaker 1>working as a medical intern and resident at Bellevue Hospital

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty part time in the medical Examiner's office though

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<v Speaker 1>NYU Medical School and Bellevue Hospital right next to each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and then in nineteen sixty five became a full time

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<v Speaker 1>forensic mythologist a medical examiner and stay there for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>until nineteen eighty five, becoming chief medical examiner at one point,

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<v Speaker 1>and then spent twenty five years after that the chief

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<v Speaker 1>medical examiner for this New York State Police. And how

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<v Speaker 1>many and how many autopsies were would you say either

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<v Speaker 1>you performed or have been involved in over this long

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<v Speaker 1>career of yours. I've done the performed more than twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand autopsies. But Sean, one of the things is back

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy one. You remember the Addicta riot when

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<v Speaker 1>forty three prisoners and guard died as a result of

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<v Speaker 1>the riot, and one of the reasons, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>main reasons for the riot is that the inmates thought

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<v Speaker 1>that they the deaths caused by guards were being covered

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<v Speaker 1>up as heart attacks. And so Governor Rockefeller, after Attica,

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<v Speaker 1>established a permanent commit a medical review board for the

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<v Speaker 1>Correction Commission to review every single death that occurs in jail's,

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<v Speaker 1>lock ups and prisons throughout New York State. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>been the forensic pathology member of that board, reappointed by

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<v Speaker 1>seven different governors. So I've seen every single hanging death,

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<v Speaker 1>every death that has occurred in the past almost fifty

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<v Speaker 1>years in US New York State. So if I understand

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<v Speaker 1>the so called suicide and then this was declared a

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<v Speaker 1>suicide and you were in the right, but you've done

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<v Speaker 1>all these these autopsies over the years. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of creeps me out. I'm just saying, as

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<v Speaker 1>a friend, I told you that before, dead bodies is

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<v Speaker 1>not on my list of things that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see every day. But I know that, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go I explain how somebody can can hang themselves

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<v Speaker 1>if they don't drop. If that you know what I

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<v Speaker 1>mean by that question. In other words, yeah, when you

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<v Speaker 1>say hanging, it usually means that the person has the

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<v Speaker 1>neck in the noose and is the weight of the

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<v Speaker 1>body is on the ligature hanging from above. Here, that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't happen. He was found on his knee, kneeling by

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<v Speaker 1>his bed. The ligature was tied up at three feet

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<v Speaker 1>above him on the one of the poles in the

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<v Speaker 1>bunk bed from the policoes from the bottom bunk bed

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<v Speaker 1>to the top bunking bed, and the noose was around

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<v Speaker 1>his neck. He hadn't been seen for, as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>for three hours. They didn't do any of the thirty

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<v Speaker 1>minute rounds to see how he was. And the person

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<v Speaker 1>who finds him is one of the guards apparently who

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<v Speaker 1>fell asleep. They're two guards. They had to see him too.

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<v Speaker 1>They allegedly fell asleep and the no The body was

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<v Speaker 1>immediately moved away and sent down to the hospital, so

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<v Speaker 1>there was no scene investigation at all. The only person

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<v Speaker 1>who saw what happened is the guard, and he said

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<v Speaker 1>he cut the ligatures and he wasn't hanging. He was

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<v Speaker 1>on his knees. So the idea was its possible, but

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<v Speaker 1>very hard to put your head in a noose while

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<v Speaker 1>you were on the ground and pull it tight enough

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<v Speaker 1>to cause death. That can happen, but if it does happen,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get fractures of three bones in the front.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a thing about the autopsy was the fractures

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<v Speaker 1>of the hyoid bone. Now the thyroid cartilage is the

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<v Speaker 1>Adams apple, and the left side and the right side

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<v Speaker 1>of the Adams apple were fractured, as was the hyoid

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<v Speaker 1>bone above it. And that can't happen even if you

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<v Speaker 1>are hanging, but will never happen at all if you

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<v Speaker 1>just put your head in a nose. There's no pressure there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more like a it's a crush injury kind of

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<v Speaker 1>case to see if the neck is stomped on by somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>but or with a very strong literature strangulation that provides

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of a lot more pressure

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<v Speaker 1>than just weight of body. So that goes findings immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Who went against the possibility of hanging suicide. Firstly, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't hanging, but also the medical examiner who did the

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<v Speaker 1>autopsy on the Sunday, who did the autopsy also felt

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<v Speaker 1>that even though there were told it was a suicide.

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<v Speaker 1>She wouldn't make it a suicide, she said, pending further investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>because she wanted to get the police investigation. The investigations

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<v Speaker 1>that still haven't been released are still going on, and

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<v Speaker 1>she left it as pending further investigation. And somehow, about

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<v Speaker 1>four or five days later, the chief medical examiner, who

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't seen the body, she never saw the body, changes

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<v Speaker 1>the suicidal hanging, and that kind of stops any investigation

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<v Speaker 1>by the New York City police because they don't investigate suicide.

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<v Speaker 1>But we don't know what the FBI has done, whether

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<v Speaker 1>they had examined the ligature to see whose DNA was

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<v Speaker 1>on it. Sow down one more second. Why don't they

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<v Speaker 1>investigate suicides because suicide is a closed case. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>investigate heart attacks. They don't really investigate, so there could

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<v Speaker 1>be a political reason if they if they believe it's

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<v Speaker 1>natural death or heart they can say heart attack. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got if those If those questions arise, then they

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<v Speaker 1>should be further investigation. But normally usually they as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as you classified as a non homicide, and the non

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<v Speaker 1>homicidal case usually all of the investigation will stop unless

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<v Speaker 1>a fuss made that this is all right. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get to that in a second. Here now, David,

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening to all this. I had not known you

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<v Speaker 1>were brought in officially as this guy's lawyer. Um I

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<v Speaker 1>guess how many days before this all happened. Here's what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>He had been calling me since his arrests, and he

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<v Speaker 1>messages the people asking me to come see him. He

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<v Speaker 1>had some fine lawyers in the case. He had Marty

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<v Speaker 1>Weinberg in Boston. He had red Winegart from Washington, DC.

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<v Speaker 1>I hesitated to get involved. For weeks before this, he

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<v Speaker 1>had been calling me and asking me review the work

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<v Speaker 1>in another case. But um so I had an ongoing

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<v Speaker 1>sort of discussion with him. August first, I agreed finally

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<v Speaker 1>to come to New York. I met with him at

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<v Speaker 1>the MCC for about five hours. At that time, he

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<v Speaker 1>asked me to take over the case completely. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>subject to meeting with Weinberg and Weingarten, and if they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't agreeable, then the idea was I would put together

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<v Speaker 1>my own team. But I had hoped to work with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to set up a meeting with them. One

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<v Speaker 1>was overseas, etc. I agreed finally to go forward in

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<v Speaker 1>the case, and then throughout the next week I was

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<v Speaker 1>getting called this is part of the other. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>back up one step and listen. I'm gonna say this.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone deserves a defense. This guy, everything I read about him,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing I like about him. So I understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>But part of it was because, in my view, at least,

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<v Speaker 1>his defense was dysfunctional. There was a lot of there

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<v Speaker 1>were a lot of answers to be given to the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that was out there in the media at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And frankly, I don't believe these stories about the underage girls,

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<v Speaker 1>but that you know either here or there for this purpose,

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<v Speaker 1>For this purpose, I had two instructions. After I got

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<v Speaker 1>news on that Saturday night that he passed away, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you must have I knew that the autopsy would be

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<v Speaker 1>the following day. I said, you must have doctor Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Boden in on that autopsy if it's all possible. It

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<v Speaker 1>turned out one of the other folks had a connection

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<v Speaker 1>to him, and they got to him and had him there.

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<v Speaker 1>That was crucially important to me. I've had a number

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<v Speaker 1>of these death cases. It's always important to have an

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<v Speaker 1>independent guy there. If possible, but he's generally forget about

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<v Speaker 1>all the credentials he told you about, is generally recognized

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<v Speaker 1>as the best in the world. So what he's very important.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned what he said on the twelfth when I

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<v Speaker 1>was then asked to represent the estate after they passed

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<v Speaker 1>away until he came forward. Now this stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>has not been made public. There is no way possible

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<v Speaker 1>the Chief Medical Examiner could have ruled this to be

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<v Speaker 1>a suicide conclusively. That's a scam, that's a polity. Five

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<v Speaker 1>days and five days, and doctor Boden has told you

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<v Speaker 1>exactly why not. But I'm going to give you one

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<v Speaker 1>other element to it. I met with him on the

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<v Speaker 1>first We came up with a whole new, multifaceted defense

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<v Speaker 1>strategy in this case. The following day, I got a

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<v Speaker 1>call from a member of his team who sort of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Bruke ranks because you know, these guys sort

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<v Speaker 1>of resented some of them that I was getting in

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<v Speaker 1>welved in the case. If you could get in today

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<v Speaker 1>and start giving orders, it would be great for the team.

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<v Speaker 1>He's so excited going forward. Five days later, I got

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<v Speaker 1>a call from another person who've met with him, said,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy just loves you. He can't wait to go

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<v Speaker 1>forward and fight this case. I got information that on

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<v Speaker 1>the Friday before he died Saturday, he was giving out

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<v Speaker 1>orders to the team based on the strategies we had

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<v Speaker 1>discussed about what to do moving forward. The idea that

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<v Speaker 1>that person then commits suicide the following day is extraordinary,

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinarily unlikely to me. When I was visiting him, he

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<v Speaker 1>had a visit from a prison psychologist part of the

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<v Speaker 1>suicide protocol, and it was a joke. She was smiling,

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<v Speaker 1>he was smiling. He lasted about five minutes. Very nice person.

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<v Speaker 1>But that wasn't a possibility, Doctor Boden, How how convinced

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<v Speaker 1>are you you're right then? And look I know those

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<v Speaker 1>probability odds and yeah you're but you're you're you're good

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<v Speaker 1>at what you do. I mean, you know, you've been sean.

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<v Speaker 1>If this were a New York State case, our board

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<v Speaker 1>would have found that this is a homicide until proven otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>that all the investigation should go forward. There's so many

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<v Speaker 1>things that happened badly. Somehow the security guards fell asleep,

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<v Speaker 1>that's ridiculous, two of them. The cameras didn't work, and

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<v Speaker 1>the injuries that I saw, see, David Sean says, when

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<v Speaker 1>I was at the oat paps the injury. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>the fractures in front of the windpipes. We see in

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<v Speaker 1>the street. Usually if somebody stomps on somebody's neck with

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<v Speaker 1>a leather shoe, a hard shoe, but it could not

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<v Speaker 1>happen even if he were hanging from a ligature. From

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<v Speaker 1>the ligature and he wasn't he was on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>there would have been very little pressure on the neck.

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<v Speaker 1>If he died at all from that kind of a position,

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<v Speaker 1>it would have to be I gotta take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna hold you guys over because I do have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple more questions about this, not the least of

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<v Speaker 1>which is, you know, the most hated figures you fear

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<v Speaker 1>in jail are people that alleged to be pedophiles. And

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<v Speaker 1>this guy had the you know, sweetheart deal, quote, conviction

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<v Speaker 1>or plea deal, whatever you want to call it. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break more with doctor Michael Boden David

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<v Speaker 1>Shone on the other side. Eight hundred nine four one,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to hold over from the last half hour

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Michael Boden, New York City's former chief medical Examiner

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<v Speaker 1>David Shoon, who in the days before quote the officially

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<v Speaker 1>ruled suicide of Jeffrey Epstein and this Manhattan lockup he

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<v Speaker 1>was retained as his attorney. Doctor Boden was hired by

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein's brother to observe the autopsy, and he says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see suicide here. So here's my question to

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<v Speaker 1>both of you. Maybe David will start with you. First. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know prison. I just don't. Thank God, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to know prison. One thing I always read

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<v Speaker 1>about prison is there's two groups of people. Prisoners tend

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<v Speaker 1>to hate rats and convicted child sex offenders. Now, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so doctor Boden, he doesn't believe this is a suicide.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't believe this is a suicide. Now does that

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<v Speaker 1>mean that maybe this guy was killed because of what

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<v Speaker 1>he's being charged with and what his reputation is and

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<v Speaker 1>what his plea deal was in the past, or do

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<v Speaker 1>you think it's more nefarious than that and some type

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<v Speaker 1>of I don't know, because you hear all these people

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<v Speaker 1>that flew on this Lolita Express and his orgy Island.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you read the papers like I do. As

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you know, this guy gave me the creeps.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing about that guy that I liked anything reading about

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<v Speaker 1>this guy. There's nothing I liked about reading about that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a defense. Everybody does. But

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<v Speaker 1>you get my point. I get your point. Um, Look

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<v Speaker 1>who did it and how it was done, etc. Is

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<v Speaker 1>certainly a matter of speculator, pure speculation. I will say this,

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<v Speaker 1>You're one hundred percent right that that category of people

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<v Speaker 1>who are charged are at particular risk. The idea for

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<v Speaker 1>folks who they put him in the cell with is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely outrageous on any circumstances. As you mentioned, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the first guy, the guy charged with several murders, tremendous guy,

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<v Speaker 1>former police officer. When after that first incident, when he

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<v Speaker 1>was moved out, they put him in with a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who was supposedly a junkie, you know, using drugs actually

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<v Speaker 1>in the cell. According to Stepstein. In any event, beyond

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<v Speaker 1>all that, his wealth also put him at great risk,

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<v Speaker 1>and they knew that, and he was very much afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of that. They would show on the television, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>the value of his house that the government raided, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the largest part of the largest privately owned house in Manhattan,

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<v Speaker 1>and the inmates make comments to him all the time

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<v Speaker 1>about that. He was very afraid of that. But any

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<v Speaker 1>institutional officers would have known that and should have known that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're seeing this kind of thing far too often where

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<v Speaker 1>there's you know, it's always I have many right, but

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom line is you you you know because you listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be honest. You're you. You have represented rats, you

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<v Speaker 1>have represented mob people, you have represented I mean this

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<v Speaker 1>is this guy is probably known for Lolita Express on

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<v Speaker 1>Orgy Island, and known for his wealth and known for

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<v Speaker 1>the the Plea deal that everybody you know has been

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<v Speaker 1>very critical of. Yeah. I have not represented rats, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, but I have represented other people who many

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<v Speaker 1>consider unsavory. Um, and it's not my position. You're, well,

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<v Speaker 1>people considered rats. Is that a better way to put it?

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<v Speaker 1>I correct the record. I don't, I mean, euthemistically, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't represent people who are right. You've you, okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>have represented people that have been alleged to be associated

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<v Speaker 1>with the mob troll falls. Correct, Correct, there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to be on the same page. Go ahead. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but in this case, listen, there were again the media

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<v Speaker 1>killed this guy every day and stuff. The presumption of

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<v Speaker 1>business is thrown out. I'm not here to defend a case.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what your show is about today. I will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you there are a lot of answers to people

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<v Speaker 1>who testified against him substantively, but all of that's beside

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<v Speaker 1>the fact, because what the folks on the inside at

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<v Speaker 1>that MCC saw was great stories about great wealth and

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, that subjects people. I represent a crazy

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<v Speaker 1>eddie years ago, you know, wealthy guy, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>forced to pay people at times on the outside of

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<v Speaker 1>prison just for protection money. So this is a great

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<v Speaker 1>risk and they knew that. And the idea that they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have had him under observation twenty four hours, seven

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<v Speaker 1>days a week is absolutely outrageous. The idea that cameras

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<v Speaker 1>in this facility weren't working. There's a you know, facility

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<v Speaker 1>with high profile inmates day after day after day. But

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<v Speaker 1>we see that kind of thing in case after he

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<v Speaker 1>along with this fellow Hank Brennan, I'm representing the state

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<v Speaker 1>of James Boulger. Now, same kind of thing where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody was there, nobody knows anything, all right, So but

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<v Speaker 1>in prison, those would be, you agree, people that are

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<v Speaker 1>alleged to be rats, alleged to be pedophiles, they're the

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<v Speaker 1>most hated. Or are there people that maybe flaw on

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<v Speaker 1>the Lolita Express and hung out at org Island. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how it's portrayed in the media. I'm not characterizing

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<v Speaker 1>this in a way that's unfair because that's what everyone said.

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<v Speaker 1>You are right. There are many people who had many

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<v Speaker 1>reasons for wanting him dead. That's what I was asking.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a personal suspicion, because look, I have

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<v Speaker 1>no opinion on it. I don't know. I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>what medical examiners do. Forensic science is amazing to me,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not my area of expertise. In order I

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<v Speaker 1>understand prison, doctor Boden, how convinced are you that you

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<v Speaker 1>believe that this was a strangulation and would you be

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<v Speaker 1>able would you be able to prove it based on

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<v Speaker 1>the evidence that you would have available to you? Last question, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that those fractures are not due to suicide. Some other

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<v Speaker 1>person had to put a great deal of pressure, either

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<v Speaker 1>by stomping on him or by closing that loop the

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<v Speaker 1>deligature very tightly. And Sean remembered that as David brought

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<v Speaker 1>up he had been assaulted on July twenty third, we

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<v Speaker 1>was found on the floor of the room. He said

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<v Speaker 1>that this roommate had tried to kill him. Of the

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<v Speaker 1>brother Mark feels that after that he felt certainly in

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<v Speaker 1>fear for his life, that somebody was out to get him. Normally,

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<v Speaker 1>he should have been put in a secure part of

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<v Speaker 1>the institution, but instead they put him on suicide watch

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<v Speaker 1>instead of protecting him. But even suicide watch is supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>scene twenty four hours a day. Somehow improperly the psychiatrist

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<v Speaker 1>that David referred to took him off it. Now in

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<v Speaker 1>prisons the New York State, a psychiatrist can't take somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>has to go through a whole lot of procedures to

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<v Speaker 1>take somebody, or if they think he has attempted suicide,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they put him in another room with another roommate.

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<v Speaker 1>But that roommate was removed a day or two before

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<v Speaker 1>he was found dead, so at the time he was

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<v Speaker 1>found dead. He had the cameras weren't working, the guards

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<v Speaker 1>were asleep, the roommate had had been taken out of

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<v Speaker 1>the out there already had been an attempt to harm him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wasn't found hanging. He the ligature looks like

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<v Speaker 1>was put on after death, you know, to tie it

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<v Speaker 1>to the to the three feet above the ground. He

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<v Speaker 1>was dead. I think before that literature it was a

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<v Speaker 1>cat to the bed. He did not swing from the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the bunk at all. The top of the

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<v Speaker 1>bunk was was not involved. So the injuries that he had,

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<v Speaker 1>the three fractures in the windpipe could not have happened

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<v Speaker 1>the way he was in a position he was found

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Amazing mystery to me. As I said earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about it, and um, doctor Biden,

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<v Speaker 1>I just know you've done this for fifty years, and David,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you to be a man of impeccable integrity

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<v Speaker 1>and would never lie to us. It certainly raises a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of questions whether we'll ever get those answers. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know if it's going to be possible. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if they didn't have the camera's work and the guys

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<v Speaker 1>fell asleep. I mean, we don't know, we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the FBI found. That they're the ones who went

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<v Speaker 1>to the scene, who should have interviewed all the other

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<v Speaker 1>prisoners who were who were right next to him, the

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<v Speaker 1>cells next to him, and what was the DNA on

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<v Speaker 1>the ligature, Who's whose DNA was it? Uh? Jeffreys and

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<v Speaker 1>the medical examine at the times that would not say

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<v Speaker 1>it's a suicide, though, although she was pressed to do so,

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<v Speaker 1>she said pending further investigation. Some have the chief medical

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<v Speaker 1>Examiner five days later, when no new information came in, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>she said that the investigation is completely She changed the

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<v Speaker 1>suicide hanging, and I just think that was a mistake,

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<v Speaker 1>a true diagnosis, and it itself interfered with the further investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I want to thank you both. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>just remember this. Those people who were in that room

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<v Speaker 1>with doctor Biden can't carry his bags. You've just heard

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<v Speaker 1>from the foremost expert in the world that ought to

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<v Speaker 1>at least raised every questions for everyone. They shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>satisfied with what they heard from the medical examiner. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Biden, David Shu, thank you both. Uh. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of odd coincidences. That's all I'll say. I just have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea I have. I'm it just is such a

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<v Speaker 1>high profile case and a convergence of things that systems

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<v Speaker 1>that would normally be in place not being in this case.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Brad Colorado, Happy Friday, Brad, glad you called, sir, Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you Sean for having me on Man. I watch

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<v Speaker 1>you every day. I will thank you, Laura, And I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta tell you, Tucker is one of my favorites too.

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<v Speaker 1>My TV stays on Fox all day and the only

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I pay one hundred and twenty dollars a

1:27:27.000 --> 1:27:30.479
<v Speaker 1>month is because that's the only place I can watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm so grateful that ninety three seven came to Colorado,

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<v Speaker 1>this Santuary state. It makes me stick. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>have a couple of questions in regards to Lindzy Graham.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the guy. I can't understand why he's not

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<v Speaker 1>playing the subpoena game like all these crazy democrats. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I have your answer you ready, yes, sir. When

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Horrowitz report comes out, he said those numerous times

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<v Speaker 1>he is going to bring in Michael Horowitz and give

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<v Speaker 1>him all the time he needs to go into every

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<v Speaker 1>single minute detail of what he discovered in the abuse case.

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<v Speaker 1>Now as it relates to these other matters, he has

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<v Speaker 1>said that he is going to follow up on them.

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<v Speaker 1>Both Ron Johnson and Senator Charles Grassley, to their credit,

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<v Speaker 1>have reopened the Rigged investigation and a Hillary server, so

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<v Speaker 1>that is now back in play. And then you got

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<v Speaker 1>the Durham investigation. Look, I'm not I'm just gonna say this.

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<v Speaker 1>I am more frustrated than anybody because you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>built this team out for the very purpose, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of discovering all of this. We already know that there

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<v Speaker 1>were warnings given to the dj and the FBI as

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<v Speaker 1>it relates to Hillary's bought and paid for dirty Russian dassier,

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<v Speaker 1>and the media didn't cover that. We we've broken all

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<v Speaker 1>of those stories, especially on the issue of it not

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<v Speaker 1>being verifiable, and the warnings that were given, and the

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<v Speaker 1>bulk of information was the in the FISA application. They

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<v Speaker 1>knowingly lied to the court. They were warned. They did

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<v Speaker 1>it anyway, that's premeditated, that's fraught against the court. They

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<v Speaker 1>did it to spy on then candidate, then transition team,

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<v Speaker 1>then President Trump. We also were in the forefront of

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<v Speaker 1>breaking down what happened with Sam Clovis, Carter Page, Papadopoulos,

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<v Speaker 1>This Joseph Misfoot misidentified as a as a Russian asset

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<v Speaker 1>when he was a Western asset in the Muller report,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've gotten to all of that. I look, it's frustrating.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what to say anymore except that

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<v Speaker 1>let's get the report we're told now before Thanksgiving. If

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<v Speaker 1>it goes after Thanksgiving, I don't even know what to

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<v Speaker 1>say anymore. But he has done with the report. It's

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<v Speaker 1>in the declassification process. Govern Na MINT is pathetically slow,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is going to be a cascade of information

1:30:06.560 --> 1:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>that comes out with this. And the fact that now

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<v Speaker 1>the Durham investigation is officially a criminal investigation is beyond

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<v Speaker 1>meaningful because that is the right to subpoena can being

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<v Speaker 1>grand juries and charges can then be filed. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>all of that will happen, and I do believe it

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<v Speaker 1>will have an impact on the Soviet secret style impeachment

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<v Speaker 1>coup attempt of the compromised, corrupt, coward, congenital liar Adam Schiff.

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<v Speaker 1>I think all of that's happening. Well, joke, So this well,

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<v Speaker 1>the Christine Blaise fod thing. She went up there. She

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even shed a here. This lady is so full

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and I don't know how they sound her.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's basically selling her soul to the Democratic devil,

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<v Speaker 1>going up there and completely manufacturing and lying every word

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<v Speaker 1>up there about about our new justice. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's ridiculous. List stay stay tuned. I'm running out

1:31:12.520 --> 1:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>of time stuff, But I just hang in there. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel the same way you do. All Right, we're really

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<v Speaker 1>out of time. I'm look, we've got a lot coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Let not your heart be troubled. The backlash is begun.

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<v Speaker 1>The madness is going to be exposed. We got the

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<v Speaker 1>Horowitz report before Thanksgiving, I'm told finally we're waiting, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Durham report is now a real investigation. And I

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<v Speaker 1>will say this, whatever involvement Shifts Office has had with

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<v Speaker 1>this so called whistleblower, non whistle blower here say whistle blower,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever this person is, that's gonna be big trouble with

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<v Speaker 1>the compromise corrupt congenital liar coward Adam Schiff Mark my words,

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<v Speaker 1>have a great weekend. Thanks for being with us. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see it back here on Monday.