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Speaker 1: maher prayer for twenty twenty one hundred and twenty eight

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Speaker 1: thousand jobs added last month. That topped expectations all by itself.

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Speaker 1: Upward revisions of the prior two months added another of

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Speaker 1: ninety five thousand jobs, for a grand total of two

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Speaker 1: And what everybody was worried about was the GM strike,

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Speaker 1: These guys got to look unions and these companies have

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Speaker 1: they get into these well pissing matches for lack of

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, obviously, have you know your your standard

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Speaker 1: bad news for them. You know, I spent a lot

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Speaker 1: apparently the internal polls of the Republican Party that they've had.

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Speaker 1: But I spent time on the phones with a couple

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Speaker 1: This is now heading south, and it's gonna head south

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Speaker 1: very quickly. And I predict the American people they're rightly

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Speaker 1: conflating three years of lying conspiracy theories hoax, four separate investigations,

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Speaker 1: and then now we got Ukraine interference. And they are

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Speaker 1: rightly saying, you know what, we're sick of the lies,

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Speaker 1: We're sick of the conspiracies, were sick of you just

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Speaker 1: we get it. You hate Donald Trump, go beat them.

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Speaker 1: But they even admit, what's the congressman's name, al Green

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Speaker 1: and all powerful, compromise corrupt, coward, congenital liar Adam Schiff,

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Speaker 1: he gets to make any rule he wants. Republicans have

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Speaker 1: So now people see the president has done a good

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Speaker 1: November third, twenty twenty, am I right on that lender,

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Speaker 1: you know, without Trumpism and trump Heism and Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: kept his promises on judges and tax cuts and bureaucracy

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Speaker 1: will come in about five fifteen Eastern disaster. President Trump

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Speaker 1: know what, the eggs of pole said, We will have

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Speaker 1: what's been real is people are fed up. They're fed

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Speaker 1: Hannity is a conservative. You can't believe anything he says.

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Speaker 1: The President took every opportunity to spread unsubstantiated claims and

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Speaker 1: course then we find out, well, why would a vice

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Speaker 1: So now Americans not you see, I know, they live

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Speaker 1: life a poor assault weapon? It? Hikay? Is that who

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Speaker 1: they are? Because if that's who they are, and if

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Speaker 1: they are the extreme conservatives, they have no face in

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Speaker 1: the state of New York citizens. That's not who New

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Speaker 1: Yorkers are. That's not who New Yorkers are. Now he

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Speaker 1: said something else that's even more interesting. It's now that

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Speaker 1: he's saying good riddance to Donald Trump. We did and

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Speaker 1: they're leaving. Listen, we have one of the most progressive

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Speaker 1: tax codes in the United States, which is a good thing,

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Speaker 1: which means the richer you are, the more you pay. However,

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Speaker 1: that presents a very fragile economy because then you are

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Speaker 1: relying on a very small number of people for the

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Speaker 1: vast amount of your tax dollars. One percent of the

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Speaker 1: taxpayers pay nearly half of all the taxes. One percent

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Speaker 1: pay nearly half of all those taxes. Those one percent

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Speaker 1: are the richest people in the state. They're the richest

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Speaker 1: people in the country. And they are the most mobile

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Speaker 1: people in the country. And you see the chart on

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Speaker 1: the bottom, top one percent, about forty six percent, top

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Speaker 1: five percent, sixty three percent of all the revenue, top

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Speaker 1: ten percent, seventy four percent of all the revenue. Tax

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Speaker 1: the rich tax, the rich, tax the rich. We did now,

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Speaker 1: God forbid the rich leave. They're leaving. And I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you this, Elizabeth Warren gets elected, they're going to leave

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Speaker 1: the United States. They're not stupid rich people I never met.

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Speaker 1: I guess maybe they're stupid rich people in terms of,

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Speaker 1: you know, trust fund people. I guess maybe they're not

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Speaker 1: so smart. I don't know. I don't know that. I

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Speaker 1: don't know those people. Everybody I know that made money

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Speaker 1: in life work their ass off. Everybody I don't know

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Speaker 1: anybody that works an eight hour day. I'm like, what.

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Speaker 1: And there's nobody on my team that we know. When

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Speaker 1: we talk about this, they're all in their eyes. They like,

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Speaker 1: we deserve our free lunch you buy us every day,

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Speaker 1: had any We deserve the bonuses that you give us

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Speaker 1: for Christmas, And they do. That's why I give it

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Speaker 1: to them. But I mean, everyone goes all in. Nobody

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Speaker 1: doesn't answer my call or text on a weekend, Linda.

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Speaker 1: If I text you on a weekend, how quick do

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Speaker 1: I want an answer the weekday before? Yeah? And by

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Speaker 1: the way, I have rules. The only one who gets

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Speaker 1: away with not texting me back is Uncle James. He's

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Speaker 1: the only one. He has an exception. He just steadfastly

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00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: refuses to cooperate with texting. It drives me nuts. You

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Speaker 1: know it's true. So you mean James doesn't have any

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Speaker 1: of the normal, full normalities in any phone call ever. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the man who does not say hello, goodbye, listen, but

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Speaker 1: he does his great job. He does. See, he's the

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Speaker 1: best of what he does. Like everybody else we have

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Speaker 1: working for us. Um. I love how the article today

475
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Speaker 1: Trump would without the trumpiness, would win election in a landslide.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you don't have Trump then, Look, this

477
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: is about the country. We have a lot of things

478
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: to fix here. We first got to fix this republic.

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Speaker 1: We've got to get established the rule of law again,

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Speaker 1: equal justice under the law again, equal applications of our

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Speaker 1: loan again, of our laws again. Ron Johnson demands demanding

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Speaker 1: the DOJ release secret Hillary Obama emails, Yeah, it's time

483
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: she got away with primes. It needs to be gone

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Speaker 1: back to deep state operatives. Premeditated fraud on a FISA court,

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Speaker 1: that needs to be We need to hold people accountable,

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Speaker 1: those that were spying illegally on a president of the

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Speaker 1: United States, those that would subvert and leak information that

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Speaker 1: no whey whether president has ever had to deal with. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that one needs to get to the bottom of. That's

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Speaker 1: all gonna But at the end of the day, the screaming,

491
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Speaker 1: the yelling, the injustice, the unfairness, the obsession, the hate,

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Speaker 1: it's never gonna go away. There's only one antidote to

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Speaker 1: what's going on. Because they want Elizabeth Warren or somebody

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Speaker 1: like her in some new green deal person that will

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Speaker 1: destroy the country that we love and grew up in.

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Speaker 1: Socialism will fail, and it will fail spectacularly, and people

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Speaker 1: with money will leave, they'll stop investing, they'll find others

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Speaker 1: safe havens to invest. An opportunity will go away, and

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Speaker 1: America will go into a precipitous, rapid decline because these

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Speaker 1: are promises that can never be fulfilled. One year in

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Speaker 1: two days from now, it doesn't matter what Pelosi and

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Speaker 1: the compromise, corrupt congenital liar Adam Schiff, do you get

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Speaker 1: the last word one year, two days from today, mister mccape,

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Speaker 1: if you would, would you be able to just say

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Speaker 1: with specificity, what the FBI verified in the Steel dossier

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Speaker 1: before using it in FIES applications. I've heard generally, you know,

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Speaker 1: I've heard generalities, but specifically what was verified in the

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Speaker 1: dossier before it was used, and also if there's an

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Speaker 1: explanation for why in the FIES applications the FBI didn't

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Speaker 1: just say, you know directly or indirectly that Steel, Christopher

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Speaker 1: Steel was being paid by the Clinton campaign. There are

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Speaker 1: a lot of caveats, and there's a lengthy footnote in there.

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Speaker 1: But I was just wondering if you'd be able to

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Speaker 1: answer those two questions. Sure, So the answer to your

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Speaker 1: first question is no, I will not go into specificity

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Speaker 1: about what the FBI verified prior to the FISA or after.

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Speaker 1: And the answer to your second question is I will wait,

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Speaker 1: as I'm sure you will, eagerly to see what mister

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Speaker 1: Harrowitz's conclusions are in that report. That's a matter that

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Speaker 1: he is, assume at the center of his investigation, and

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Speaker 1: I am anxious to see what his thoughts on it are.

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Speaker 1: As you've mentioned, there was an extensive and detailed explanation

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Speaker 1: inserted by the Department of Justice into that FISE, a

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Speaker 1: package that everyone involved believed accurately or I should speak

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Speaker 1: for everyone else, I'll speak for myself. I believed accurately

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Speaker 1: reflected what we knew about mister Steele. So well anxious

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Speaker 1: to hear what the IG thinks about that, and we

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Speaker 1: probably won't have to wait too much longer. The reason

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Speaker 1: why mister Trump has this very contensed relationship with CIA

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Speaker 1: and FBI and the deep state people and you me yeah, specifically,

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Speaker 1: is because they tell the truth, because they cannot be

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Speaker 1: manipulated like clay in his hands, because they will stand

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Speaker 1: up and speak out when things are wrong, and they'll

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Speaker 1: tell him what the truth is, and the truth he

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Speaker 1: fears because he has lived on anything but the truth,

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Speaker 1: not just during his presidency but even before that. So

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Speaker 1: thank goodness for the women and men who are at

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Speaker 1: the intel's community and law enforcement communities who are standing

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Speaker 1: up and carrying out their responsibilities in behalf of their

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Speaker 1: fellow citizens. That John Brennan, by the way, he's basically saying,

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Speaker 1: thank goodness for members of the deep state. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: would be abusing power if you weaponize the powerful tools

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Speaker 1: of intelligence. McCabe not answering a question about what the

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Speaker 1: FBI verified in the Steel Dacier or the steal's role

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Speaker 1: and Hillary's campaign. We already have the answers to those questions.

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Speaker 1: We know they didn't verify it and it's unverifiable. Yet

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Speaker 1: it was the bulk of information used in the is

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Speaker 1: a warrant application process, which says at the top of

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Speaker 1: the application verified. That means that was premeditated fraud against

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Speaker 1: the FISA court or the purpose of obtaining a warrant

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Speaker 1: on Carter page, by the way, taking away all of

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Speaker 1: his constitutional rights. Remember McCabe once said, famously, now infamously

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Speaker 1: perhaps that without the dossier, there's there's no FISA warrant. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's how powerful it was, the bulk of information according

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Speaker 1: to the Grassly Graham memo, Nunes memo. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: the dirty bought and paid for Russian dossier that nobody

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Speaker 1: cared about for three years when we were talking about

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Speaker 1: Russian interference. Just like nobody in the mob in the

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Speaker 1: media cares about Ukrainian interference in the twenty sixteen election,

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Speaker 1: and a Ukrainian court has even said they interfered. They

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Speaker 1: are willing to give us the evidence that they interfered.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, doesn't you know, just like they don't care

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Speaker 1: that Biden, you know, in a quid pro quote bragging

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Speaker 1: about leverage the billion taxpayer of dollars for the purpose

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Speaker 1: of firing a prosecutor. You know, you're not getting the million,

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Speaker 1: You're not getting the billion dollars. I'm gonna take it

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Speaker 1: home unless you fire that guy. You got six hours.

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Speaker 1: If you fire him, you get the money. Quid pro quo.

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Speaker 1: Why did he want to fire a prosecutor in Ukraine? Oh,

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Speaker 1: the guy that was investigating his own son who had

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Speaker 1: no experience in Ukraine oil energy gas, but was paid

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars while he was the vice president of

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Speaker 1: the United States and not the only country. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's this is getting to a point we better start

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Speaker 1: getting on track. Look, if we're gonna have deep state

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Speaker 1: Brennan operatives leaking whatever they want, non whistleblower whistleblowers, he's

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Speaker 1: not a whistleblower. This would be called a leaker. This

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Speaker 1: would be called somebody colluding with Adam sh staff and

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Speaker 1: to what extent with Brennan. I hope we one day

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Speaker 1: find out. But the house of cards in many ways

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Speaker 1: is coming tumbling down. We now know the Durham investigation

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Speaker 1: is officially a criminal investigation with the ability to subpoena

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Speaker 1: and convene a grand jury and charges be laid out.

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Speaker 1: I would expect we're going to have people charged at

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Speaker 1: some point. We're going to before Thanksgiving. Finally, I am

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Speaker 1: told get the ever so anticipated FISA Inspector General report.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if premeditative fraud on a FISA quarters revealed.

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Speaker 1: Somebody who has been just killing it and exposing a

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Speaker 1: lot of the corruption from the Obama Justice Department is

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Speaker 1: Sidney Powell, friend of this program. She is now the

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Speaker 1: attorney for General Michael Flynn, author of the definitive book

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Speaker 1: on prosecutorial miss abuse, Licensed to Lie, is here to

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Speaker 1: update us on what she's discovering in the Flynn case

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Speaker 1: because it runs parallel to all the things we're discussing.

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Speaker 1: Sidney Powell, welcome back. How's General Flynn. Where are you

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Speaker 1: with the case? Because, as you said, you expect the

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Speaker 1: judge is not gonna well obviously postponing sentencing and you

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Speaker 1: believe the prosecutors could be held in contempt. Ultimately, yes,

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Speaker 1: the judge is not postponed sentencing yet, but he canceled

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Speaker 1: oral arguments for next week because of the comprehensive briefing

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Speaker 1: of the parties. That was our comprehensive brief primarily, and

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Speaker 1: he did allow the government to file a third reply,

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Speaker 1: which they just did today that it's really absolutely nothing

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Speaker 1: new and more evidence they simply dwell in an alternative

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Speaker 1: universe of their own imagining. They keep going back to

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Speaker 1: the fact he pled guilty and waived all his rights,

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Speaker 1: and now they tell us they knew his counsel was

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Speaker 1: conflict did but they never raised that issue with the court,

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Speaker 1: so we expect to have fun writing our reply brief,

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Speaker 1: which we will file by Monday. Okay, what are you discovering?

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Speaker 1: What tell us paint the picture for people maybe that

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Speaker 1: don't understand what we do know certain things about the case.

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Speaker 1: We know that James comes on tape bragging that oh

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Speaker 1: I did something I'd never do, or get away within

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Speaker 1: the Bush or Obama years, and yeah, I sent my

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Speaker 1: guys over to take advantage of the chaos of the

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Speaker 1: new Trump administration. On day four, Andrew McCabe was asked

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Speaker 1: by General Flynt if he needed an attorney when he

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Speaker 1: heard FBI guys were coming to see him. He said,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, not at all. But in fact that

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Speaker 1: was an interrogation and they did deny him. Miranda Rights,

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Speaker 1: tell us what else that you have discovered? Oh, it's stunning, Sean.

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Speaker 1: They actually planned all of that at length. Struck admits

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Speaker 1: that he and McCabe met numerous times to decide whether

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Speaker 1: to end interview Flynn and how to go about it.

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Speaker 1: There was a small group meeting the day before the

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Speaker 1: interview of General Flynn in which they strategized about how

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Speaker 1: to keep him relaxed and unguarded for the interview, the

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Speaker 1: struck Page text messages we found and knew when the

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Speaker 1: government never produced that indicated struck and was sitting around

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Speaker 1: talking with Bill Prestep the night of January tenth about

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Speaker 1: using the Steele dossier in the news as a pretext

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Speaker 1: to interview people. Of course, Flynn was interviewed within fourteen

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Speaker 1: days of that. I believe they knew their entire investigation

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Speaker 1: or claim for a reason to investigate, was a pretext.

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Speaker 1: They had copies of the telephone calls. All his calls

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Speaker 1: with the ambassador were already recorded, and they had transcripts

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Speaker 1: of them. They didn't have to go interview him to

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Speaker 1: find out what the Russian ambassador said. They knew he

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Speaker 1: had said and done nothing wrong. The entire interview was

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Speaker 1: a pretext and carefully planned and strategized and orchestrated to

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Speaker 1: take advantage of him believing they were friends and allies.

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Speaker 1: When did you where is it? Specifically because I don't

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Speaker 1: recall Adam from my own memory reading any struck page

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Speaker 1: text specifically going into the details of this. Some were

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Speaker 1: produced to prior counsel in the government's productions that dribbled

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Speaker 1: out over the year before he played After Judge Sullivan

648
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Speaker 1: came on the case, he entered what's called a Brady

649
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Speaker 1: Order requiring the government to turn over information favorable to

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Speaker 1: the defense, and under that they dribbled out things. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: most of it was dribbled out only as it became

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Speaker 1: publicly available through other sources like the Komi admission, for example.

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Speaker 1: They knew of that a year earlier before they even

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Speaker 1: spoke to mister Flynn in interviewing him, and they didn't

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Speaker 1: produce it to the defense until four days before his

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Speaker 1: sentencing was scheduled in Judge Sullivan's court, So they had

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Speaker 1: that for well over a year. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 1: remarkable the way they went about orchestrating all of this.

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Speaker 1: Explain what happened that moment where Judge Sullivan, I think,

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Speaker 1: believed something about General Flynn and left the chambers and

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Speaker 1: came back and there was an apology given what happened

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Speaker 1: in that instance, Well, I wondered, as I was sitting

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Speaker 1: there at the time I happened to be in the

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Speaker 1: courtroom that day, I was wondering it almost felt like

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Speaker 1: Judge Sullivan was pushing General Flynn to scream out, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm innocent. I didn't do this. I mean, it felt

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Speaker 1: to me like he did not want to proceed with

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Speaker 1: the sentencing that day, and ultimately he didn't. He suggested

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Speaker 1: to the defense that they, if I recall, he also

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Speaker 1: didn't he say something, Well, my answer is not going

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Speaker 1: to be any different if we don't do it today.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember that exactly. He did launch off on

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Speaker 1: a suggestion that the general had arguably sold out his

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Speaker 1: country while he was in the White House, and that's

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Speaker 1: what he had to walk back when he came back

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Speaker 1: on the bench. But we don't know, of course what

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Speaker 1: the government had given him, sealed an ex parte that

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Speaker 1: misled him into thinking that, well, I mean, so why

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Speaker 1: would the government be allowed to give him anything without

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Speaker 1: you having all the time it happens all the time

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Speaker 1: in criminal cases. Well you know stuff in that file

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that I'm not aware of. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand because it's taken so long. I thought,

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Speaker 1: as a matter of law that any evidence must be

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Speaker 1: presented to the other side, especially sculptory evidence, which, by

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Speaker 1: the way, you deal with a lot how often it

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Speaker 1: is sadly withheld When there's instances of prosecutorial abuse, and

688
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Speaker 1: that's the problem here. The government's claiming they've given us

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Speaker 1: more than we were entitled to. So the judge is

690
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Speaker 1: going to have to intervene to order us to be

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Speaker 1: given more. And the problem for any defendant is he

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Speaker 1: doesn't know what he doesn't know. The government literally holds

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Speaker 1: all the cards, and they routinely say, oh, well, that's

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Speaker 1: not exculpatory, but they're not in a position to decide that.

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Speaker 1: They're even claiming here that the text message we found

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Speaker 1: on our own that Struck was sitting around talking with

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Speaker 1: Bill Preestapp about the pretext for the interview. They claimed

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Speaker 1: that had nothing to do with Flynn. So that's not

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Speaker 1: exculpatory to us. That is amazing to me. You know.

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Speaker 1: One of the things we do know certain things in

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Speaker 1: the case. We do know that they yeah had unmasked

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Speaker 1: General Flynn. We do know that they had all they

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Speaker 1: had the full conversation. We do know that he was

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Speaker 1: denied his miranda and basic constitutional rights by the deputy

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Speaker 1: FBI Director McCabe at the time. We do know that

706
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Speaker 1: this was a setup. I callmey that he's bragging about.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's how we now treat thirty three year veterans.

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Speaker 1: And we know that he didn't lie because the FBI

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Speaker 1: interrogators themselves, even after all of this, didn't think he

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Speaker 1: was lying correct correct, So and then we know that

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day he was still pled

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Speaker 1: guilty because they were threatening to go after his son.

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Speaker 1: Is that correct? That's correct? That and he had been

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Speaker 1: almost bankrupted by that time. The legal fees were enormous

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Speaker 1: just from the purported fare A violations. He was a

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Speaker 1: pet paid Cunnington over a million dollars by early summer,

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Speaker 1: and then the Special Council stuff started. Let me pick

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Speaker 1: up there. When we get back out, Sidney Powell, attorney

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Speaker 1: for General Michael Flynn with us. We're getting close. We're

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Speaker 1: going to get this information and it can't come soon enough.

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Speaker 1: Joe Concho on our corrupt media will get to that.

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Speaker 1: A fascinating view of the Jeffrey Epstein suicide by doctor

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Speaker 1: Michael Boden and David Schoen who was representing him. Coming

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Speaker 1: up we can with a Sydney Powell, attorney for General

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Speaker 1: Michael Flint, as we update that case. Do you believe

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Speaker 1: that when we get the Inspector General report on Fier

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Speaker 1: abuse and then later the Durham Report, that there's going

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Speaker 1: to be an intersection of issues that will involve your client,

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Speaker 1: General Flint. I think there will be. I'm very much

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Speaker 1: looking forward to the Fiser report. Now, do you believe

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Speaker 1: as I do, that the only conclusion has to be

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Speaker 1: because there were multiple warnings that this was premeditated fraud.

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Speaker 1: It was an unverifiable dirty dossier paid for by Hillary,

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Speaker 1: but it's premeditated fraud on a court just buying a

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Speaker 1: presidential candidate, transition team and president. Yes. I listened to

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Speaker 1: what mister McCabe said as you played the opening, and

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Speaker 1: I was appalled that anyone would consider that an accurate

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Speaker 1: representation of what had happened with respect to Christopher Steele.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you believe there'll be justice because of everybody

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Speaker 1: is saying, Hannity, we've known this for a long time

741
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Speaker 1: now and now nothing has happened. Do you believe there

742
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Speaker 1: will be justice? I do believe there will be justice.

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Speaker 1: I think there has to be justice or we're lost

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Speaker 1: as a republic. It's a pretty scary admonition. Sydney Powell. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, all right, our best to General Flynn.

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Speaker 1: By the way, people want to get ahold of you.

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Speaker 1: How do they do it? Www dot Mike Flynn Defense

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Speaker 1: Fund dot org. All right, Sydney Powell, attorney for General

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Speaker 1: Michael Flynn. Eight hundred nine four one, Shaun is a

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Speaker 1: number when we come back. Joe Concha on the corrupt

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Speaker 1: media bias that is influencing all things political and impeachment

752
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: madness and much more. As we continue, all right twenty

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Speaker 1: five to the top of the hour. Glad you're with us.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred nine four one, Shawn, if you want to

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Speaker 1: be a part of the program. Top of the next hour.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is I know Michael Boden for years.

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Speaker 1: He's been a chief medical Examiner of fame, forensic pathologist,

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Speaker 1: I mean, done more autopsies than we'd ever want to know. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: he was sat it on the autopsy at Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't believe that this guy killed himself. He

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Speaker 1: said that the evidence points dramatically more in the different

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Speaker 1: in the way of a strangulation. We'll talk to him

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Speaker 1: and one of the attorneys that was brought in at

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Speaker 1: last minute in an Epstein case. We'll get to that.

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Speaker 1: So last night, one of the most requested things that

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Speaker 1: we've been running on TV. Is it. It's two minutes

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Speaker 1: in eighteen seconds, and it starts the day two days

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Speaker 1: after election day, twenty sixteen, and it's all through twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: all through twenty eighteen, all through twenty nineteen. And it's

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Speaker 1: just a sampling of how many times the radical extreme

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Speaker 1: Democrats and the mob in the media said, impeach, impeach, impeach, impeach, impeach, impeach.

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Speaker 1: Now it's a little bit more visual, but I think

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Speaker 1: it's worth playing on radio because you know, we put

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Speaker 1: in the typing noise, and the typing noise that you

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00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: here is a visual of a date. So just imagine

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Speaker 1: in your mind's eye that this is going all through again,

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Speaker 1: starting two days after election day, all the way through

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, all the way through twenty eighteen, all the

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Speaker 1: way up to today. And this is just a small

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Speaker 1: sampling impeachment mania. And it just shows you because there's

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Speaker 1: nothing to impeach the president for. We have the transcript.

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Speaker 1: President's funny say, maybe I'll do a fireside chat and

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Speaker 1: read it, and the mob just you know, to get

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Speaker 1: triggered again. Can you believe this? It's going to read

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Speaker 1: the transcript oh, I mean everyone's interpretation that they put

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Speaker 1: so much value on. Let the American people hear what

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Speaker 1: the President said. Cracks me up, actually, but here it is,

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Speaker 1: and then we're gonna go come on the other side

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Speaker 1: of it with our buddy Joe Conscha straight ahead. If

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Speaker 1: he takes the risk of going to trying he's convicted,

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Speaker 1: that could be seen as an impeachable offense. If Trump

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Speaker 1: were caught on a video camera snorting cocaine in the

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Speaker 1: White House, maybe with one of his children, there was

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Speaker 1: at least a chance he'd be impeach if he's not

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Speaker 1: a legitimately elected president. In your mind, there are tools

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Speaker 1: that Congress had. I don't see how that wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: an impeachable That tweet fits the Republican definition of an

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Speaker 1: impeachable offense. I will fight every day until he is impeached.

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Speaker 1: Peace body bye, and peach body by grounds for impeachments.

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Speaker 1: An impeachable offense, perhaps impeachable offense is impeachment the appropriate

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Speaker 1: remedy something for the Congress like impeachment. All that may

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Speaker 1: be impeachable. That's an impeachable offense is that an impeachable

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Speaker 1: offense is that an impeachable offense. To you, he's much

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Speaker 1: more vulnerable to impeachment, a potential ingredient of impeachment. Where

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Speaker 1: do you see in a peachafbul offense? It is grounds

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Speaker 1: for impeachment, for impeachment potentially criminal or even impeachable grounds

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Speaker 1: for impeachment or does that not go far enough in

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Speaker 1: your view? Grounds four impeachment? This tweet alone maybe an

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Speaker 1: impeachable offense. Let's talk about impeachment. Impeachment is on the table?

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Speaker 1: Which impeachable offense? Fully stolen? And I think, baby, they

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Speaker 1: talk because we're gonna go in there, We're gonna impeach them.

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Speaker 1: Do you see an impeachable set of offenses? It's an

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Speaker 1: impeachable offense. If that's not impeachable, I don't know what is.

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Speaker 1: The president shall be removed from office on impeachment? Is

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Speaker 1: it impeachable? Is impeachable? Very substantial evidence that the president

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Speaker 1: is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanor grounds for impeachment.

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Speaker 1: Tipping point to talk of impeachment reaches a fever pitch

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Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill. That's the madness we've now lived through.

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Speaker 1: Starting two days after Donald Trump was elected. This is

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Speaker 1: to them as I said yesterday for the mob and

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Speaker 1: the media that this is a mission from God. They

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Speaker 1: know better. They can't believe that they lost. They can't

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Speaker 1: believe Muller didn't get them. They can't believe Russia flopped

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Speaker 1: and blew up in their face. They don't know it yet,

825
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: but this is blowing up in their face. I am

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Speaker 1: looking at numbers that well, I have let's say, friends

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Speaker 1: and high places that do polling and share with me

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Speaker 1: what they see and what's going on. And what they're

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Speaker 1: seeing is that what the Democrats are doing is driving

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party off a cliff. And when you look

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Speaker 1: at some of the polling numbers that I have seen,

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Speaker 1: and I have a lot of poster friends around the country,

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00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: that support for the president has increased, and very specifically

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Speaker 1: in the key target states that would be most necessary

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Speaker 1: for the president to win re election. And his favorability

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Speaker 1: has never been higher among Republicans and increasing as we go.

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Speaker 1: And more Americans, by the way, now want Joe Biden investigated.

838
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Speaker 1: They understand what happened with the real quid pro quo,

839
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Speaker 1: which is the you got six hours if you fire him,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a billion dollars. You don't fire him,

841
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Speaker 1: you're not getting the money. And then as dope sun

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Speaker 1: or do you have any experience with the Ukraine? No?

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Speaker 1: Any experience? And energy? No oil, no gas, no nothing none.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think you were on the board. I

845
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Speaker 1: don't know. I have served on MR once, I was

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Speaker 1: on the board at Amtrak. That's not experience. And why

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Speaker 1: did you get that position? Next question, Well, you think

848
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Speaker 1: maybe it's because it's your father's last name. Probably Anyway,

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Speaker 1: here to break down the insanity of the media, Joe

850
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: conscious with us. He's a calumnist, media calumnist of the Hill.

851
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: He also hosts his own show on our New York affiliate,

852
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Speaker 1: the All New AM seven ten w R. How are you,

853
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: sir doing? Grade Sean, That was an interesting breakdown that

854
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: you just had. And I've seen some numbers as well

855
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: that you've talked about in those key battleground states where

856
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: impeachment is under water by double digits. In other words,

857
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: people that approve of what the Democrats are doing currently

858
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill and they want him to concentrate on

859
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: other topics like the opioid crisis and healthcare and immigration,

860
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: so by taking their eye off the ball, and when

861
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Speaker 1: this thing ends, with the president not being removed from office,

862
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: because again, you need twenty GOP senators to defect. An

863
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Speaker 1: outside of Mitt Romney and Pierre de Lecto, who's really

864
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Speaker 1: only one person, I don't really see any Republicans that

865
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Speaker 1: are going to go against the party and vote to

866
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Speaker 1: remove the presidents. So we know how the movie is

867
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Speaker 1: going to end. And then after all that, Democrats are

868
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to say, Okay, voters, here's what we've done

869
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: since we took back the House in twenty eighteen, and

870
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Speaker 1: they'll be able to point to almost nothing. And when

871
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Speaker 1: you can't make lives in the American people better and

872
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: you're only running on negativity, and Hillary Clinton can attest

873
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: to this by just saying Donald Trump's a bad guy,

874
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose the same way you lost in twenty sixteen.

875
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be worse because I think is

876
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Speaker 1: you know, I think first of all, the fundamental unfairness

877
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: of this, you know, the secret Soviet style impeachment coup

878
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: hearings being led by somebody who's compromised himself, which is

879
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: the cowardly shift. I mean, I mean, you got him compromise.

880
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: He's a fact witness in the case, and he's running

881
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: this whole charide and he's been lying as a congenital

882
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: liar that's been, you know, out there telling us we

883
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: have all the evidence Trump prusher collusion. They couldn't pick

884
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: a worst person to run this, So that's not popular.

885
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: Then they still are not giving any due process because

886
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: he's the judge, jury executioner, and they given no rights

887
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: that say new King Ridge gave Bill Clinton and his

888
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Speaker 1: attorney's a nineteen ninety eight or Democrats gave Nixon when

889
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: they tried to impeach him. So I see this going

890
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: getting worse and worse for them as they go alone.

891
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: If there was an honest media, even somewhat honest media here,

892
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: you would have Adam Schiff that being constantly bombarded with

893
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: tough questions and his credibility questioned during interviews and during analysis. Instead,

894
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw the Washington Post today,

895
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: but they have a lead story that says, and this

896
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 1: is literally the headline, and I literally fell off my chair.

897
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: Like it's not really a saying, I actually fell off,

898
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure I hurt my hip. Listen to this.

899
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: Adam Shift once wanted to be a screenwriter can he

900
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: give the Trump presidency a Hollywood ending? That's a Washington

901
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: Post story, And that's the type of love that an

902
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: Adam Shift gets. It's the type of love that Elizabeth

903
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: Warren which he puts worth proposal today fifty two trillion

904
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: dollars for Medicare for all, when our entire federal budget

905
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: is four trillion per year. Even if we spend it,

906
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: you got rid of every single program and every single

907
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: expenditure that we have, we still couldn't pay for it.

908
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: Is that going to be fact checked the way that

909
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Speaker 1: a Trump proposal would? Of course not. So the problem

910
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: is twofold. I'm going to make two very obvious observations.

911
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: Sean most in political media load the president. We know that.

912
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: But it's also very good for business. So that's whole

913
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: the incentive because you get ratings and clicks to go up.

914
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: So look in terms of Trump and in terms of

915
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: the way this is going to go. They aren't there

916
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: the media to serve their viewers and readers. It's to

917
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 1: be accepted within the bubble and love by their peers

918
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: and to get that next contract offer from your boss.

919
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: At these more liberal networks and publications, if you go

920
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: after Trump as hard as possible. I'm just surprised there

921
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: aren't more contrarians to just say, look, I'm going to

922
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: give an honest opinion. If I you know, an unpredictable,

923
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: unpredictable type of person this business, that's a good thing

924
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: because people don't know what you're gonna say next. That's

925
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: a good thing in this business when you're honest and

926
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: people can spot authenticity. But we don't see that anymore.

927
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: Everybody just wants to be accepted and do what their

928
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: bosses think they should say and what they think viewers

929
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: want to hear, instead of what they should here. And

930
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Speaker 1: it's such a shame. I thought there were more a

931
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Speaker 1: couple of more people that had some you know, for

932
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: lack of a better term, balls in this business, but

933
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Speaker 1: they don't. Everybody just wants to conform to the high

934
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Speaker 1: mentality and move forward with this because they don't know

935
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Speaker 1: any other way. All right, stay there, Joe Concho with us, right?

936
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Speaker 1: Think you continue? Joe Concho is with as opinion media

937
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Speaker 1: writer for The Hill and fellow host on WR in

938
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Speaker 1: New York. It's interesting, well, you once formerly worked at media.

939
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Speaker 1: They I forget who wrote the column, but I saw

940
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Speaker 1: a column in the last couple of days there about

941
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: You know, all these people that work at you know,

942
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Speaker 1: I call it Area fifty one, Roswell, Rachel Maddow's channel,

943
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: MSDNC or fake news CNN. You know, they don't. There

944
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: is no delineation like there is a Fox. Like for example,

945
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: I keep telling everybody will listen what I do for

946
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: a living, Hannity, what do you do for a living?

947
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm a talk show host. What is a talk show host? Well,

948
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: it's all encompassing. It's like the full newspaper because we

949
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: do reporting, straight news reporting, and I can produce thousands

950
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Speaker 1: of hours, and we do investigative reporting, vetting Obama or

951
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: what we've discovered with a deep state buys a the

952
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton rigged investigation, outsourcing, intelligence gathering, you know, all

953
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: the real Russian news that they ignored that we're going

954
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: to learn an awful lot about in the days to come.

955
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: But then we also do opinion, and I'm honest that

956
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm a conservative and I support the president's conservative policies.

957
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: And we also talk about sports and culture and talk

958
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: to friends like you about media. So we do everything.

959
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: But they say that their news, They claim that these

960
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: primetime hosts are newspeople. They even allow Area fifty one

961
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: Roswell Rachel to be one of their moderators in debates.

962
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: Imagine if Fox let me be a model raider in

963
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: a Republican debate. I remember Rachel Maddow. She was on

964
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: Bill Marshow a couple of years ago, and she was

965
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: actually challenged by a guy named Nichollespie who writes for

966
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: I Believe Reason, and he's a pretty honest guy. He's

967
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: down the middle, or least is authentic, like I was

968
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: talking about authentic before. And he challenged her on some

969
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: of her opinions. And at one point she had the

970
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: audacity to say, I don't do my show to give

971
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: my opinion on things. I'm here to report the news.

972
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: It's like, no, you're not. Just say you're an opinion person.

973
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: It's okay. And then on CNN, where you look down

974
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: their lineup at eight to eleven o'clock, Anderson Cooper, Chris Cuomo,

975
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: Don Lemon, they all are listed as anchors. They're presented

976
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: as anchors as people just asking questions and not taking

977
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: a side, and we all know that's not true. And

978
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: I think that's why so many people are turned off

979
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: by the media because they're sick of having their intelligence

980
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: insulted by people being presented as objective people when you know,

981
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: most people are opinion at that point, because, let's face it,

982
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: that's a little sexier and that's a more fun place

983
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: to be than just being a straight reporter where there

984
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: aren't too many people like that anymore. So, Yeah, I

985
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: think people are just more honest about where they stood

986
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: and who they are and who they support. I think

987
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: they have a lot more respect. Quite frankly, what did

988
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: you think of this story that came out earlier today

989
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: about the whistle blower's lawyer now threatening journalists to keep

990
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: his identity a secret. And you know, I found the

991
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: words actually really interesting. This is in light of Paul

992
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: Sperry in real clear investigations and his peace and about

993
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: an open secret inside the Beltway. I'm sure, like me,

994
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: you knew about this identity long before Sperry put it

995
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: out there. I just haven't been able to confirm it.

996
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: So I just wait. Our client is legally entitled to anonymity.

997
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: Disclosure of the name of any person who may be

998
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: suspected to be the whistleblower places that individual and their

999
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: family in greater physical danger. Any physical harm the individual

1000
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: and or their family suffers as a result of the

1001
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: disclosure means that the individuals and publications reporting such names

1002
01:00:56,200 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: will be personally liable for that harm. Such behavior is

1003
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: the pinnacle of irresponsibility and intentionally reckless. I think if

1004
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: you're a hearsay non whistleblower, that is the secondhand whistle blower,

1005
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: and you're working with the deep state, I don't think

1006
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: you even qualify as a whistle blower. As my answer, Yeah,

1007
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: you worked for Joe Biden, and you worked for John Brennan,

1008
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: and you're obviously a partisan, so you're longer whistleblower. You're

1009
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: simply an activist for a political party. And boy, that

1010
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: letter sounds like a threat to the free press to me,

1011
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: doesn't it. I mean, why shouldn't we as journalists pursue

1012
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: the name of who the whistle blower is and what

1013
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: that person's background is to establish just like you do

1014
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: in a murder case motive? Right, Like, why are you

1015
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: doing this? Is it because you really are just a patriot?

1016
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: Like the New York Times says, Oh, I gotta take

1017
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: a break, but it makes me want to now do it?

1018
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: It's the thing. I don't know, why have this side

1019
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: of me my whole life. It's sort of like when

1020
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: you know the word, if you say illegal immigrant or

1021
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: a legal alien in New York, you can find up

1022
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So I just

1023
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: said it four hundred times, you know, said, Okay, come

1024
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: get me the Blasio. Good luck with that case, because

1025
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose. I got to take a break. Joe.

1026
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: Great to hear from you again as always. Eight hundred

1027
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: nine four one. Shaun is on number great story at

1028
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: the top. Doctor Biden does not believe Epstein was a

1029
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: suicide and he was in on the autopsy. We'll get

1030
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Speaker 1: to that and your calls. Eight hundred nine four one

1031
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: sewn our final hour on a Friday, Straight Ahead. Coming

1032
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: up next our final news round up and Information Overload Hour.

1033
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Speaker 1: When did you realize that the Epstein family needed help? Well?

1034
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: I was asked by the brother the next of Ken

1035
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 1: to be at the autopsy. And at the autopsy on

1036
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Speaker 1: day one, they were findings that were unusual for suicidal

1037
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Speaker 1: hanging and more consistent with literature homicidal strangulation, which included

1038
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: and he was suggested at the time that he committed

1039
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: suicide by doing what but by hanging at the time

1040
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: he was found allegedly hanging by a homemade literature of sheets.

1041
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: Are you saying you don't think it was suicidal? I

1042
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: think that the evidence points to a homicide rather than

1043
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: suicide because there are multiple three fractures in the hyoid

1044
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: bone the flabroid cartilage that are very unusual for suicide

1045
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Speaker 1: and more indicative of strangulation, homicidal strangulation. All right, on

1046
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Speaker 1: this Friday, Happy Friday News roundup Information overload hour. We'll

1047
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: get to your calls at the bottom of this half hour,

1048
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Speaker 1: and our best of audio for the week all coming up.

1049
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Speaker 1: So this story just fascinated me because it never it

1050
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: just didn't pass my smell test. And it's the story

1051
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Speaker 1: of this suicide death of Jeffrey Epstein. Now, we had

1052
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: had knowledge that like in the week or two before

1053
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Speaker 1: the quote suicide, which it has officially now been called,

1054
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,919
Speaker 1: that he had been with some cell made to beat

1055
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Speaker 1: the crap out of him. I guess, had a black

1056
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Speaker 1: eye and everything else in between. But there's a certain

1057
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Speaker 1: science to all of this. Another weird aspect of this

1058
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Speaker 1: was okay, Usually there are rounds and checks on every prisoner,

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01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: and a suicide watch especially for certain individuals, and certain

1060
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: procedures and cameras in place, and everything just didn't work

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Speaker 1: out the way normally would in this case. I'm not

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01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorist. I just said, hmm, just one of

1063
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: those you know, how do you commit suicide when you're

1064
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: like on the side of your bed and you can't

1065
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: just hang the rope or hang the sheets and put

1066
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: it around your neck and strangulate yourself or whatever however

1067
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: that works. So I just had a little bit of

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01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: a question. And anyway, it turns out that the former

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01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: medical examiner for New York City is a friend of mine,

1070
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: and he was hired by the family by Jeffrey Epstein's

1071
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: brother Mark to observe the autopsy after he has found

1072
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: hanged in this lock up in Manhattan in August. And

1073
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: being you know, now in this business some fifty years

1074
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 1: and twenty thousand autopsies later, many high profile cases, I

1075
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: found his conclusions and observations amazing. Anyway, doctor Michael Boden

1076
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: is with us. He is New York City's former chief

1077
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: medical examiner. And David Shoon, who's been a friend of

1078
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: the program, civil rights attorney. I didn't even know this

1079
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: until recently. He had been hired by Jeffrey Epstein only

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01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: days before quote the so called suicide, and he had

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Speaker 1: been talking to Jeffrey Epstein. Anyway, welcome both of you

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01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: back to the program, doctor Boden. How many years let's

1083
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: just go over your background and experience. You've done this

1084
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: for almost fifty years, that's right, Sean. I started out

1085
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 1: working as a medical intern and resident at Bellevue Hospital

1086
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty part time in the medical Examiner's office though

1087
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: NYU Medical School and Bellevue Hospital right next to each other,

1088
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: and then in nineteen sixty five became a full time

1089
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: forensic mythologist a medical examiner and stay there for twenty

1090
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: until nineteen eighty five, becoming chief medical examiner at one point,

1091
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: and then spent twenty five years after that the chief

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01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: medical examiner for this New York State Police. And how

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01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: many and how many autopsies were would you say either

1094
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: you performed or have been involved in over this long

1095
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: career of yours. I've done the performed more than twenty

1096
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:48,919
Speaker 1: thousand autopsies. But Sean, one of the things is back

1097
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy one. You remember the Addicta riot when

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01:06:55,440 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: forty three prisoners and guard died as a result of

1099
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: the riot, and one of the reasons, one of the

1100
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: main reasons for the riot is that the inmates thought

1101
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: that they the deaths caused by guards were being covered

1102
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: up as heart attacks. And so Governor Rockefeller, after Attica,

1103
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: established a permanent commit a medical review board for the

1104
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: Correction Commission to review every single death that occurs in jail's,

1105
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: lock ups and prisons throughout New York State. And I've

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01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: been the forensic pathology member of that board, reappointed by

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01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: seven different governors. So I've seen every single hanging death,

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01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: every death that has occurred in the past almost fifty

1109
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: years in US New York State. So if I understand

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01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: the so called suicide and then this was declared a

1111
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: suicide and you were in the right, but you've done

1112
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: all these these autopsies over the years. By the way,

1113
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: it kind of creeps me out. I'm just saying, as

1114
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: a friend, I told you that before, dead bodies is

1115
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: not on my list of things that I want to

1116
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 1: see every day. But I know that, but I want

1117
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: to go I explain how somebody can can hang themselves

1118
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,600
Speaker 1: if they don't drop. If that you know what I

1119
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: mean by that question. In other words, yeah, when you

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01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: say hanging, it usually means that the person has the

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01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: neck in the noose and is the weight of the

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01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: body is on the ligature hanging from above. Here, that

1123
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: didn't happen. He was found on his knee, kneeling by

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01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: his bed. The ligature was tied up at three feet

1125
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: above him on the one of the poles in the

1126
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: bunk bed from the policoes from the bottom bunk bed

1127
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: to the top bunking bed, and the noose was around

1128
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Speaker 1: his neck. He hadn't been seen for, as you said,

1129
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: for three hours. They didn't do any of the thirty

1130
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: minute rounds to see how he was. And the person

1131
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: who finds him is one of the guards apparently who

1132
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: fell asleep. They're two guards. They had to see him too.

1133
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: They allegedly fell asleep and the no The body was

1134
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: immediately moved away and sent down to the hospital, so

1135
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: there was no scene investigation at all. The only person

1136
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 1: who saw what happened is the guard, and he said

1137
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: he cut the ligatures and he wasn't hanging. He was

1138
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: on his knees. So the idea was its possible, but

1139
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: very hard to put your head in a noose while

1140
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: you were on the ground and pull it tight enough

1141
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 1: to cause death. That can happen, but if it does happen,

1142
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 1: you don't get fractures of three bones in the front.

1143
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: And there's a thing about the autopsy was the fractures

1144
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 1: of the hyoid bone. Now the thyroid cartilage is the

1145
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: Adams apple, and the left side and the right side

1146
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: of the Adams apple were fractured, as was the hyoid

1147
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: bone above it. And that can't happen even if you

1148
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: are hanging, but will never happen at all if you

1149
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 1: just put your head in a nose. There's no pressure there.

1150
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: It's more like a it's a crush injury kind of

1151
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: case to see if the neck is stomped on by somebody,

1152
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: but or with a very strong literature strangulation that provides

1153
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of a lot more pressure

1154
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 1: than just weight of body. So that goes findings immediately.

1155
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: Who went against the possibility of hanging suicide. Firstly, it

1156
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: wasn't hanging, but also the medical examiner who did the

1157
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: autopsy on the Sunday, who did the autopsy also felt

1158
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 1: that even though there were told it was a suicide.

1159
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: She wouldn't make it a suicide, she said, pending further investigation,

1160
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: because she wanted to get the police investigation. The investigations

1161
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 1: that still haven't been released are still going on, and

1162
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 1: she left it as pending further investigation. And somehow, about

1163
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: four or five days later, the chief medical examiner, who

1164
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 1: hadn't seen the body, she never saw the body, changes

1165
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 1: the suicidal hanging, and that kind of stops any investigation

1166
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,600
Speaker 1: by the New York City police because they don't investigate suicide.

1167
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: But we don't know what the FBI has done, whether

1168
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:40,560
Speaker 1: they had examined the ligature to see whose DNA was

1169
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: on it. Sow down one more second. Why don't they

1170
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 1: investigate suicides because suicide is a closed case. They don't

1171
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 1: investigate heart attacks. They don't really investigate, so there could

1172
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: be a political reason if they if they believe it's

1173
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: natural death or heart they can say heart attack. So yeah,

1174
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: I got if those If those questions arise, then they

1175
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: should be further investigation. But normally usually they as soon

1176
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 1: as you classified as a non homicide, and the non

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01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 1: homicidal case usually all of the investigation will stop unless

1178
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: a fuss made that this is all right. Well, I

1179
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: want to get to that in a second. Here now, David,

1180
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: you're listening to all this. I had not known you

1181
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:31,560
Speaker 1: were brought in officially as this guy's lawyer. Um I

1182
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 1: guess how many days before this all happened. Here's what happened.

1183
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 1: He had been calling me since his arrests, and he

1184
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: messages the people asking me to come see him. He

1185
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 1: had some fine lawyers in the case. He had Marty

1186
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: Weinberg in Boston. He had red Winegart from Washington, DC.

1187
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: I hesitated to get involved. For weeks before this, he

1188
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 1: had been calling me and asking me review the work

1189
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: in another case. But um so I had an ongoing

1190
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: sort of discussion with him. August first, I agreed finally

1191
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 1: to come to New York. I met with him at

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01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: the MCC for about five hours. At that time, he

1193
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: asked me to take over the case completely. I said,

1194
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: subject to meeting with Weinberg and Weingarten, and if they

1195
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,719
Speaker 1: weren't agreeable, then the idea was I would put together

1196
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: my own team. But I had hoped to work with them.

1197
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 1: I tried to set up a meeting with them. One

1198
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: was overseas, etc. I agreed finally to go forward in

1199
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: the case, and then throughout the next week I was

1200
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: getting called this is part of the other. Let me

1201
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 1: back up one step and listen. I'm gonna say this.

1202
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 1: Everyone deserves a defense. This guy, everything I read about him,

1203
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 1: there's nothing I like about him. So I understand that.

1204
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: But part of it was because, in my view, at least,

1205
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 1: his defense was dysfunctional. There was a lot of there

1206
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 1: were a lot of answers to be given to the

1207
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: stuff that was out there in the media at the time.

1208
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: And frankly, I don't believe these stories about the underage girls,

1209
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 1: but that you know either here or there for this purpose,

1210
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: For this purpose, I had two instructions. After I got

1211
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: news on that Saturday night that he passed away, I said,

1212
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: you must have I knew that the autopsy would be

1213
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: the following day. I said, you must have doctor Michael

1214
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: Boden in on that autopsy if it's all possible. It

1215
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: turned out one of the other folks had a connection

1216
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: to him, and they got to him and had him there.

1217
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 1: That was crucially important to me. I've had a number

1218
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: of these death cases. It's always important to have an

1219
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: independent guy there. If possible, but he's generally forget about

1220
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,560
Speaker 1: all the credentials he told you about, is generally recognized

1221
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,839
Speaker 1: as the best in the world. So what he's very important.

1222
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,560
Speaker 1: I learned what he said on the twelfth when I

1223
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: was then asked to represent the estate after they passed

1224
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: away until he came forward. Now this stuff, you know,

1225
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: has not been made public. There is no way possible

1226
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 1: the Chief Medical Examiner could have ruled this to be

1227
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: a suicide conclusively. That's a scam, that's a polity. Five

1228
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 1: days and five days, and doctor Boden has told you

1229
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 1: exactly why not. But I'm going to give you one

1230
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 1: other element to it. I met with him on the

1231
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: first We came up with a whole new, multifaceted defense

1232
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: strategy in this case. The following day, I got a

1233
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: call from a member of his team who sort of,

1234
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, Bruke ranks because you know, these guys sort

1235
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:58,560
Speaker 1: of resented some of them that I was getting in

1236
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: welved in the case. If you could get in today

1237
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 1: and start giving orders, it would be great for the team.

1238
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: He's so excited going forward. Five days later, I got

1239
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 1: a call from another person who've met with him, said,

1240
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: this guy just loves you. He can't wait to go

1241
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 1: forward and fight this case. I got information that on

1242
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: the Friday before he died Saturday, he was giving out

1243
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: orders to the team based on the strategies we had

1244
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 1: discussed about what to do moving forward. The idea that

1245
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: that person then commits suicide the following day is extraordinary,

1246
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 1: extraordinarily unlikely to me. When I was visiting him, he

1247
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: had a visit from a prison psychologist part of the

1248
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,759
Speaker 1: suicide protocol, and it was a joke. She was smiling,

1249
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 1: he was smiling. He lasted about five minutes. Very nice person.

1250
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 1: But that wasn't a possibility, Doctor Boden, How how convinced

1251
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 1: are you you're right then? And look I know those

1252
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: probability odds and yeah you're but you're you're you're good

1253
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: at what you do. I mean, you know, you've been sean.

1254
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: If this were a New York State case, our board

1255
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,799
Speaker 1: would have found that this is a homicide until proven otherwise,

1256
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 1: that all the investigation should go forward. There's so many

1257
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:10,839
Speaker 1: things that happened badly. Somehow the security guards fell asleep,

1258
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous, two of them. The cameras didn't work, and

1259
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 1: the injuries that I saw, see, David Sean says, when

1260
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 1: I was at the oat paps the injury. I saw

1261
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: the fractures in front of the windpipes. We see in

1262
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 1: the street. Usually if somebody stomps on somebody's neck with

1263
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 1: a leather shoe, a hard shoe, but it could not

1264
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 1: happen even if he were hanging from a ligature. From

1265
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 1: the ligature and he wasn't he was on the ground,

1266
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: there would have been very little pressure on the neck.

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Speaker 1: If he died at all from that kind of a position,

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Speaker 1: it would have to be I gotta take a break.

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01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold you guys over because I do have

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01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 1: a couple more questions about this, not the least of

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01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 1: which is, you know, the most hated figures you fear

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01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 1: in jail are people that alleged to be pedophiles. And

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01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 1: this guy had the you know, sweetheart deal, quote, conviction

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01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 1: or plea deal, whatever you want to call it. We'll

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Speaker 1: take a quick break more with doctor Michael Boden David

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Speaker 1: Shone on the other side. Eight hundred nine four one,

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01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: Shawn is a number. Also, get your calls in as

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01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 1: we continue on this Friday at twenty five to the

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01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: top of the hour, Happy Friday. We're gonna forego our

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01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: best of audio for this Friday. We'll get to your calls.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to hold over from the last half hour

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01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:35,440
Speaker 1: Doctor Michael Boden, New York City's former chief medical Examiner

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01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:39,480
Speaker 1: David Shoon, who in the days before quote the officially

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01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 1: ruled suicide of Jeffrey Epstein and this Manhattan lockup he

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01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: was retained as his attorney. Doctor Boden was hired by

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01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: Epstein's brother to observe the autopsy, and he says, yeah,

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01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: I don't see suicide here. So here's my question to

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Speaker 1: both of you. Maybe David will start with you. First. Look,

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Speaker 1: I don't know prison. I just don't. Thank God, I

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01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 1: don't want to know prison. One thing I always read

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01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: about prison is there's two groups of people. Prisoners tend

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01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 1: to hate rats and convicted child sex offenders. Now, okay,

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01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 1: so doctor Boden, he doesn't believe this is a suicide.

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01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: You don't believe this is a suicide. Now does that

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01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: mean that maybe this guy was killed because of what

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01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: he's being charged with and what his reputation is and

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01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: what his plea deal was in the past, or do

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01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 1: you think it's more nefarious than that and some type

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01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: of I don't know, because you hear all these people

1300
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 1: that flew on this Lolita Express and his orgy Island.

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01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 1: I mean you read the papers like I do. As

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01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,799
Speaker 1: I said, you know, this guy gave me the creeps.

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01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: Nothing about that guy that I liked anything reading about

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01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 1: this guy. There's nothing I liked about reading about that guy.

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01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a defense. Everybody does. But

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01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: you get my point. I get your point. Um, Look

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01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: who did it and how it was done, etc. Is

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01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 1: certainly a matter of speculator, pure speculation. I will say this,

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01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent right that that category of people

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01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: who are charged are at particular risk. The idea for

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01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: folks who they put him in the cell with is

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01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 1: absolutely outrageous on any circumstances. As you mentioned, you know,

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01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: the first guy, the guy charged with several murders, tremendous guy,

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01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 1: former police officer. When after that first incident, when he

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01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 1: was moved out, they put him in with a guy

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01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: who was supposedly a junkie, you know, using drugs actually

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01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 1: in the cell. According to Stepstein. In any event, beyond

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Speaker 1: all that, his wealth also put him at great risk,

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01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 1: and they knew that, and he was very much afraid

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01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,799
Speaker 1: of that. They would show on the television, for example,

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01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 1: the value of his house that the government raided, you know,

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01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 1: the largest part of the largest privately owned house in Manhattan,

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01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: and the inmates make comments to him all the time

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01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 1: about that. He was very afraid of that. But any

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01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: institutional officers would have known that and should have known that.

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01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 1: We're seeing this kind of thing far too often where

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01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 1: there's you know, it's always I have many right, but

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01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 1: the bottom line is you you you know because you listen.

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01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: Let's be honest. You're you. You have represented rats, you

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01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 1: have represented mob people, you have represented I mean this

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01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 1: is this guy is probably known for Lolita Express on

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01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 1: Orgy Island, and known for his wealth and known for

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01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 1: the the Plea deal that everybody you know has been

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01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 1: very critical of. Yeah. I have not represented rats, by

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01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 1: the way, but I have represented other people who many

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Speaker 1: consider unsavory. Um, and it's not my position. You're, well,

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01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: people considered rats. Is that a better way to put it?

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01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 1: I correct the record. I don't, I mean, euthemistically, I

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01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 1: don't represent people who are right. You've you, okay, you

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01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 1: have represented people that have been alleged to be associated

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01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 1: with the mob troll falls. Correct, Correct, there we go.

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Speaker 1: I just want to be on the same page. Go ahead. Yeah,

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01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 1: but in this case, listen, there were again the media

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01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 1: killed this guy every day and stuff. The presumption of

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01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 1: business is thrown out. I'm not here to defend a case.

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01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 1: That's not what your show is about today. I will

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01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 1: tell you there are a lot of answers to people

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01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: who testified against him substantively, but all of that's beside

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01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 1: the fact, because what the folks on the inside at

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01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: that MCC saw was great stories about great wealth and

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01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: by the way, that subjects people. I represent a crazy

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01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 1: eddie years ago, you know, wealthy guy, and he was

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01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 1: forced to pay people at times on the outside of

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01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 1: prison just for protection money. So this is a great

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Speaker 1: risk and they knew that. And the idea that they

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have had him under observation twenty four hours, seven

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01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 1: days a week is absolutely outrageous. The idea that cameras

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01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:54,679
Speaker 1: in this facility weren't working. There's a you know, facility

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01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: with high profile inmates day after day after day. But

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01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,040
Speaker 1: we see that kind of thing in case after he

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01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: along with this fellow Hank Brennan, I'm representing the state

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01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 1: of James Boulger. Now, same kind of thing where you know,

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01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 1: nobody was there, nobody knows anything, all right, So but

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01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 1: in prison, those would be, you agree, people that are

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01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: alleged to be rats, alleged to be pedophiles, they're the

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Speaker 1: most hated. Or are there people that maybe flaw on

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01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 1: the Lolita Express and hung out at org Island. Again,

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Speaker 1: that's how it's portrayed in the media. I'm not characterizing

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01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: this in a way that's unfair because that's what everyone said.

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Speaker 1: You are right. There are many people who had many

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Speaker 1: reasons for wanting him dead. That's what I was asking.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a personal suspicion, because look, I have

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Speaker 1: no opinion on it. I don't know. I don't understand

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Speaker 1: what medical examiners do. Forensic science is amazing to me,

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01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 1: but it's not my area of expertise. In order I

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Speaker 1: understand prison, doctor Boden, how convinced are you that you

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01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 1: believe that this was a strangulation and would you be

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01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 1: able would you be able to prove it based on

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01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 1: the evidence that you would have available to you? Last question, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: that those fractures are not due to suicide. Some other

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01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: person had to put a great deal of pressure, either

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01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 1: by stomping on him or by closing that loop the

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01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 1: deligature very tightly. And Sean remembered that as David brought

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01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: up he had been assaulted on July twenty third, we

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01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 1: was found on the floor of the room. He said

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01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 1: that this roommate had tried to kill him. Of the

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Speaker 1: brother Mark feels that after that he felt certainly in

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01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 1: fear for his life, that somebody was out to get him. Normally,

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01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 1: he should have been put in a secure part of

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Speaker 1: the institution, but instead they put him on suicide watch

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01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 1: instead of protecting him. But even suicide watch is supposedly

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01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:05,600
Speaker 1: scene twenty four hours a day. Somehow improperly the psychiatrist

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01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 1: that David referred to took him off it. Now in

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01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: prisons the New York State, a psychiatrist can't take somebody,

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01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: has to go through a whole lot of procedures to

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01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 1: take somebody, or if they think he has attempted suicide,

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01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 1: and then they put him in another room with another roommate.

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01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 1: But that roommate was removed a day or two before

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01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 1: he was found dead, so at the time he was

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01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: found dead. He had the cameras weren't working, the guards

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01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: were asleep, the roommate had had been taken out of

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01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 1: the out there already had been an attempt to harm him,

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01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: and he wasn't found hanging. He the ligature looks like

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01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 1: was put on after death, you know, to tie it

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01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: to the to the three feet above the ground. He

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01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 1: was dead. I think before that literature it was a

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01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 1: cat to the bed. He did not swing from the

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01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 1: top of the bunk at all. The top of the

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01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 1: bunk was was not involved. So the injuries that he had,

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01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 1: the three fractures in the windpipe could not have happened

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01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:20,759
Speaker 1: the way he was in a position he was found

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01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 1: all right. Amazing mystery to me. As I said earlier,

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01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it, and um, doctor Biden,

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01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: I just know you've done this for fifty years, and David,

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01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: I know you to be a man of impeccable integrity

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01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,600
Speaker 1: and would never lie to us. It certainly raises a

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01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 1: lot of questions whether we'll ever get those answers. I

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01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 1: don't even know if it's going to be possible. You know,

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01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 1: if they didn't have the camera's work and the guys

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01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: fell asleep. I mean, we don't know, we don't know

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01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 1: what the FBI found. That they're the ones who went

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01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: to the scene, who should have interviewed all the other

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01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 1: prisoners who were who were right next to him, the

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01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 1: cells next to him, and what was the DNA on

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01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 1: the ligature, Who's whose DNA was it? Uh? Jeffreys and

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01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 1: the medical examine at the times that would not say

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01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 1: it's a suicide, though, although she was pressed to do so,

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01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 1: she said pending further investigation. Some have the chief medical

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01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 1: Examiner five days later, when no new information came in, Uh,

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01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 1: she said that the investigation is completely She changed the

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01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 1: suicide hanging, and I just think that was a mistake,

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01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 1: a true diagnosis, and it itself interfered with the further investigation.

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Speaker 1: All right, I want to thank you both. Yeah. I

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01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 1: just remember this. Those people who were in that room

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01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 1: with doctor Biden can't carry his bags. You've just heard

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01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 1: from the foremost expert in the world that ought to

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01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: at least raised every questions for everyone. They shouldn't be

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01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 1: satisfied with what they heard from the medical examiner. All right,

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01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 1: doctor Biden, David Shu, thank you both. Uh. A lot

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01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: of odd coincidences. That's all I'll say. I just have

1441
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 1: no idea I have. I'm it just is such a

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01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 1: high profile case and a convergence of things that systems

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01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 1: that would normally be in place not being in this case.

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01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 1: All right, Brad Colorado, Happy Friday, Brad, glad you called, sir, Yes, sir,

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01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 1: thank you Sean for having me on Man. I watch

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01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:17,600
Speaker 1: you every day. I will thank you, Laura, And I

1447
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, Tucker is one of my favorites too.

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01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 1: My TV stays on Fox all day and the only

1449
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 1: reason why I pay one hundred and twenty dollars a

1450
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: month is because that's the only place I can watch it.

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01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:33,759
Speaker 1: And I'm so grateful that ninety three seven came to Colorado,

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01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 1: this Santuary state. It makes me stick. But I do

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01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 1: have a couple of questions in regards to Lindzy Graham.

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01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 1: I love the guy. I can't understand why he's not

1455
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: playing the subpoena game like all these crazy democrats. I

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01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 1: just I have your answer you ready, yes, sir. When

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01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 1: Michael Horrowitz report comes out, he said those numerous times

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01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 1: he is going to bring in Michael Horowitz and give

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01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 1: him all the time he needs to go into every

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01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 1: single minute detail of what he discovered in the abuse case.

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01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: Now as it relates to these other matters, he has

1462
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 1: said that he is going to follow up on them.

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01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 1: Both Ron Johnson and Senator Charles Grassley, to their credit,

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01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 1: have reopened the Rigged investigation and a Hillary server, so

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01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 1: that is now back in play. And then you got

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01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:34,560
Speaker 1: the Durham investigation. Look, I'm not I'm just gonna say this.

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01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 1: I am more frustrated than anybody because you know, we

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01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 1: built this team out for the very purpose, you know,

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01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 1: of discovering all of this. We already know that there

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01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 1: were warnings given to the dj and the FBI as

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Speaker 1: it relates to Hillary's bought and paid for dirty Russian dassier,

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Speaker 1: and the media didn't cover that. We we've broken all

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Speaker 1: of those stories, especially on the issue of it not

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Speaker 1: being verifiable, and the warnings that were given, and the

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01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 1: bulk of information was the in the FISA application. They

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01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 1: knowingly lied to the court. They were warned. They did

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01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: it anyway, that's premeditated, that's fraught against the court. They

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01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: did it to spy on then candidate, then transition team,

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Speaker 1: then President Trump. We also were in the forefront of

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Speaker 1: breaking down what happened with Sam Clovis, Carter Page, Papadopoulos,

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01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 1: This Joseph Misfoot misidentified as a as a Russian asset

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Speaker 1: when he was a Western asset in the Muller report,

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Speaker 1: and we've gotten to all of that. I look, it's frustrating.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say anymore except that

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Speaker 1: let's get the report we're told now before Thanksgiving. If

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Speaker 1: it goes after Thanksgiving, I don't even know what to

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01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: say anymore. But he has done with the report. It's

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01:29:57,160 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 1: in the declassification process. Govern Na MINT is pathetically slow,

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Speaker 1: but there is going to be a cascade of information

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Speaker 1: that comes out with this. And the fact that now

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Speaker 1: the Durham investigation is officially a criminal investigation is beyond

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Speaker 1: meaningful because that is the right to subpoena can being

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01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 1: grand juries and charges can then be filed. I believe

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Speaker 1: all of that will happen, and I do believe it

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01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:31,520
Speaker 1: will have an impact on the Soviet secret style impeachment

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Speaker 1: coup attempt of the compromised, corrupt, coward, congenital liar Adam Schiff.

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Speaker 1: I think all of that's happening. Well, joke, So this well,

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Speaker 1: the Christine Blaise fod thing. She went up there. She

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01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 1: didn't even shed a here. This lady is so full

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Speaker 1: of it, and I don't know how they sound her.

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01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean, she's basically selling her soul to the Democratic devil,

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01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 1: going up there and completely manufacturing and lying every word

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01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 1: up there about about our new justice. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: just it's ridiculous. List stay stay tuned. I'm running out

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Speaker 1: of time stuff, But I just hang in there. I

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01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 1: feel the same way you do. All Right, we're really

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01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 1: out of time. I'm look, we've got a lot coming up.

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Speaker 1: Let not your heart be troubled. The backlash is begun.

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Speaker 1: The madness is going to be exposed. We got the

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Speaker 1: Horowitz report before Thanksgiving, I'm told finally we're waiting, and

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01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 1: the Durham report is now a real investigation. And I

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Speaker 1: will say this, whatever involvement Shifts Office has had with

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01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 1: this so called whistleblower, non whistle blower here say whistle blower,

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Speaker 1: whoever this person is, that's gonna be big trouble with

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Speaker 1: the compromise corrupt congenital liar coward Adam Schiff Mark my words,

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Speaker 1: have a great weekend. Thanks for being with us. We'll

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Speaker 1: see it back here on Monday.