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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Samis podcast. Today we

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Speaker 2: have a guest and he's with me. Ben's not with me.

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Speaker 2: Ben is away on another who knows what trip. The

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Speaker 2: man is very important, Okay, he's literally always on a

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Speaker 2: business trip. But today we have Thomas Jacobs here to

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Speaker 2: tell us everything about what's going on in his life.

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Speaker 2: We haven't heard from you and Becca in quite some time,

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Speaker 2: so I feel like I was like, wait, what was

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Speaker 2: the last time you guys did an interview about baby

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Speaker 2: Benny or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: We did a brief interview talking about our new non

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Speaker 3: OUC company, Improv Beverages, and of course that immediately spun

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Speaker 3: into what's going on with Benson, how's fatherhood, how's everything

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Speaker 3: going in your life? When are you getting married? It's

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Speaker 3: like whoa. So it's been a while since we've had

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Speaker 3: a formal sit down, and I can't emphasize enough how

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Speaker 3: honored I am to be doing this with you and

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Speaker 3: not Ben Higgins, because I mean just getting Ben. We

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Speaker 3: miss you.

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Speaker 2: Ben is an integral part of your life because like

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Speaker 2: Becca and him went on tour together. So if you

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Speaker 2: go on tour with somebody, I feel like you're just

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Speaker 2: together for life, Like you don't have to even talk

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Speaker 2: for years, but you just know that when you get together,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna click immediately again, because you know, they just

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Speaker 2: they had so many meals together, they were at so

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Speaker 2: many hotels together.

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Speaker 3: All that maybe the sound weird.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, well, do you want to know? You want

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Speaker 2: to talk about weird? I got a d M yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how out of touch this person is,

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Speaker 2: but I sent it to Jared who's He's in Rhode

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Speaker 2: Island right now and I'm in Virginia and Ben in

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Speaker 2: a group message, and it was just like, this is

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Speaker 2: too funny. But this person goes like this.

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Speaker 3: While you're pulling that up another full circle moment to

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Speaker 3: put a nice ball on that. It's even more important

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Speaker 3: for Ben Higgins in this world because his wedding is

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Speaker 3: where I met you and Jared, So, I mean.

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Speaker 2: If so back part of your life.

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Speaker 3: This was meant to be. This was meant to be.

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Speaker 3: I remember Jared and I we were in the hallway

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Speaker 3: in front of the bathroom and co Check just geeking

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Speaker 3: out over who was the best rendition of Batman? And

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Speaker 3: we went deep down that rabble hole and it was just.

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Speaker 2: I remember that moment happening, and I was like, I

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Speaker 2: guess I'll excuse myself. So you saw me then where

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Speaker 2: I was very pregnant, and now here I am again.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how time flies so fast. But I

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Speaker 2: got a message yesterday from somebody. It was the first

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Speaker 2: message they ever sent me on Instagram, and it says Jared.

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Speaker 2: It was so weird because it was in response to,

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Speaker 2: like me talking about my door dash order. Jared is

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Speaker 2: shitty for you. I know you can do better. Please

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Speaker 2: marry Ben? What and then what? Underneath?

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Speaker 3: It?

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Speaker 2: Same into story she's responding to. And I do meal

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Speaker 2: planning at least a week in advance for grocery purpose

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Speaker 2: is so that I have items like bananas and avocado.

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Speaker 3: I think she was pitching you to sign up for

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Speaker 3: a new meal delivery subscription. Quite frankly, she seems like

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Speaker 3: a reputable, solid source you get your meals from. But

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Speaker 3: I say, you just did you respond? Did you say

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Speaker 3: anything to her? No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, But I had a good, good laugh.

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Speaker 3: What did you just doubled down and be like, oh

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Speaker 3: my gosh, I've been waiting for someone to say this.

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Speaker 3: Can I vent to you for a second? Ben and

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Speaker 3: I we have this whole charades. Justs is in on

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Speaker 3: it too. How do we get rid of?

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Speaker 2: So that brought up in our text message the three

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Speaker 2: of us the show wife Swap, which they did an

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Speaker 2: episode with Sean and Catherine and then they also didn't

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Speaker 2: and then they swapped lives with Jason and Molly. What

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Speaker 2: bachelor couple would you like to switch love just for

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Speaker 2: three days? I think that's what wive swap?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Maybe a week?

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Speaker 3: Easy? I'd have an answer. I'll do it three days

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Speaker 3: a week a month of lifetime.

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Speaker 2: Give me Kenny and Maury, Kenny and Mary. So that

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Speaker 2: meant Mary is your wife for a week.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, Kenny is my husband for a week.

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Speaker 3: Kenny and I were just going to go and we're

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Speaker 3: going to Gallavan and we're going to live our best lives.

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Speaker 3: Kenny Brush is one million percent my bachtfor Nation Crush.

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Speaker 3: And if I had to wife swap with anybody, it

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Speaker 3: would be husband swap and Kenny and I would just

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Speaker 3: we were just right off into the sunset and it

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Speaker 3: would be phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: Well, Kenny is a good bachlorination crush to have.

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Speaker 3: I think he's the only Bachtnation crush to have, like

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Speaker 3: anyone who has any other answer, They're just subjective question.

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Speaker 3: He's the answer.

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Speaker 2: I feel like they're very underrated, like just beauty wise,

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Speaker 2: they're just so underrated, Like people need to talk about

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Speaker 2: them being so hot together more often. All right, let's

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Speaker 2: let's get to the important stuff, you being a dad,

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Speaker 2: you and beck At getting married, because as we established,

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Speaker 2: you haven't really done a very in depth interview about

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Speaker 2: all this stuff. So let's start with baby Benny, who

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Speaker 2: I cannot believe is about six months now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just about to be six months. Happened so fast.

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Speaker 2: This is such an awkward question, but I know you

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Speaker 2: guys were engaged when you conceived him. Were you trying

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Speaker 3: First try first? We could we can he was conceived.

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Speaker 3: We know the exact moment Christmas morning. Christmas morning, after

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Speaker 3: all the presents were unwrapped, after the sinmon rolls were

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Speaker 3: eating and everyone else was sleeping, We're like, hey, you

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Speaker 3: know that thing we talked about a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 3: and then like two and a half minutes later, Benny

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Speaker 3: was planned, and here we are. It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, So you knew that she was fertile,

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Speaker 2: like that was our ovulation window.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we were peeing on sticks. I kept telling

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Speaker 3: her from day one. I'm like, baby, I got some

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Speaker 3: really strong swimmers here. I mean, don't say you're ready

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Speaker 2: You were right, you knew. How did you know this?

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Speaker 3: Uh, there's a strong word in my life called manifestation.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, we had pep talks every night before bed.

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Speaker 3: We like, guys, daddy, daddy needs this, he wants this

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Speaker 3: so badly.

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Speaker 2: Come on spread affirmations.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, put him on your mirror. But in all honesty,

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Speaker 3: it was just a huge blessing. I know, I know

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Speaker 3: fertility is a really hot topic for a lot of families.

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Speaker 3: Were so fortunate and so blessed to be able to

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Speaker 3: have a healthy pregnancy and a healthy baby, and it's

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Speaker 3: just life is so much better now with him. But

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Speaker 3: first track, right right after we started talking about it,

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Speaker 3: we had we had confirmation.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's sweet. So I know that you guys were

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Speaker 2: supposed to get married. You had a specific date in October,

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Speaker 2: but you ended up getting married a couple of days

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Speaker 2: after that planned date. But you did courthouse wedding. Did

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Speaker 2: you before you you know, before she found out she

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Speaker 2: was pregnant with him, were you planning more of a

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Speaker 2: formal wedding or were you always planning at doing courthouse.

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Speaker 3: No, we were planning. We still are planning. We wanted

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Speaker 3: to have a large celebration. Our favorite era is the

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Speaker 3: nineteen twenties prohibition gas besque, so our vision. We were

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Speaker 3: looking at all these venues. We were figuring out how

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Speaker 3: were looking at where we could have aerial lists perform,

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Speaker 3: And then we had the best best champagne bottle pop

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Speaker 3: of all time and finding out we were pregnant, so

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Speaker 3: that came to a screeching halt. And now it's just

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Speaker 3: a matter of trying to pick up those pieces and

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Speaker 3: when we want to reschedule it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're going to have the whole gas wee party.

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Speaker 3: Potentially we might dial it down a little bit. You

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Speaker 3: might be in the same boat, but like once you

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Speaker 3: have your baby, some of your financial choices become a

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Speaker 3: little more stringent. It's like, all right, do I really

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Speaker 3: want to spend all this on this big celebration or

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Speaker 3: should we go fund Benny's college account? Or I feel

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Speaker 3: a lot more responsible now, is about it. I feel

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Speaker 3: a lot less like hiring aerialists and more so interested

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Speaker 2: You can cut out the aerial ists, okay, but the

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Speaker 2: Champagne Towers are good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I need the Champagne Towers air lists. Yeah, on

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Speaker 2: What was that like? Was that disappointing for you guys?

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Speaker 2: There was nothing I feel just going off your vibe.

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Speaker 2: There wasn't anything disappointing about you guys having to scale back.

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Speaker 2: Why was it important for you to get married though?

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Speaker 2: Right around the time he was born.

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Speaker 3: Well, something was important to us to begin with and

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Speaker 3: It was just one of those things where we knew

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Speaker 3: we wanted to do it. We didn't know we were

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Speaker 3: go to a courthouse on the day that we did it.

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Speaker 3: We got married on Friday the thirteenth, and it was

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Speaker 3: almost somewhat jokingly at first, she was like, hey, it's Friday, thirteenth.

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Speaker 3: on Friday, And then there was one and we looked

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Speaker 3: at each other like getting are getting married on Friday? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And then we ended up going down getting the documents.

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Speaker 3: We had our server at one of our favorite hotel

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Speaker 3: bars sign as our witness, and we just knocked it out.

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Speaker 2: It was right way, that's so cute.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was. It was funny. You brought

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Speaker 3: us the menu. I'm like, hey, so we'll get the champagne,

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Speaker 3: and do you mind im signing as our witness to

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Speaker 3: be legally wet right now? He was just like, no

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Speaker 3: one's ever asked me that. Yeah, of course, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: So did he have to be there in the room

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Speaker 2: with you guys?

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Speaker 3: Well, apparently like we just did it. You pick up

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Speaker 3: the documents from the courthouse, like they don't actually marry

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Speaker 3: you there unless you sign up for that one, which

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Speaker 3: is what I didn't know. They're like, oh, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: hear your documents. Bring them back in like forty eight

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Speaker 3: hours and they're like, oh, that's wrong. I love this.

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Speaker 3: This is romantic, it's storybook writing.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that the weirdest thing? Like I get so confused

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Speaker 2: about the whole marriage thing, even though technically, like we're married.

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Speaker 2: Like so sometimes I kind of joke with Jared and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm scared that we're not actually married this

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Speaker 2: right because we picked up the forums at the courthouse

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Speaker 2: and just like you what you were saying, then they

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Speaker 2: were like, have your officiants sign it, and then have

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Speaker 2: one other random person that was there witnessing it sign it,

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Speaker 2: and then you bring it back all sign and that's it.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, So we had his dad bring our

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Speaker 2: signed documents back the they get the day after our wedding.

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Speaker 3: So you had no did he send you a picture?

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Speaker 3: Like are you certain he brought them in the right place?

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Speaker 3: It all depends we have a boy or girl next.

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Speaker 2: So, how do you feel about me who has their

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Speaker 3: But as a support of husband and a supporting father, like,

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00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 3: that's something that I wanted to hear her out and

437
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 3: really understand what that route was. And once once we

438
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 3: did that, it was like, yeah, okay, because I'm It's

439
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 3: one of those things, is what it is. Like, I

440
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 3: have no problem. I love seeing pictures of everyone else's

441
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 3: kids and like my close friends, it's nothing but my son,

442
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 3: because I do want to share with the people who

443
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 3: are close to us. But it was just a decision

444
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 3: we made to keep it, keep it within the family.

445
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:27,360
Speaker 3: Per se.

446
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's totally respectable. I completely understand now that we're

447
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 2: on we're on serious topics. I got to ask about

448
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 2: how the departure from Happy Hour one. Was that almost

449
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 2: a year ago?

450
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 3: Rebecca, Yeah, it's been a while, and not to get

451
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 3: too deep in since it's not entirely my my business

452
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 3: on it. The way that it was handled, well, there

453
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 3: was a lot of things up in the air. There

454
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 3: was a lot of changes going on with the franchise

455
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 3: as a whole, a lot of turnover and leadership, and

456
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 3: in that timeline while they were figuring everything out, BECO

457
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 3: was sort of just pulled to hold the front. Just

458
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 3: status quose stay that amount of time just kept stretching

459
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 3: of and we're not sure what's going on. Just keep

460
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 3: doing what you're doing. Everything's fine, we'll let you know

461
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 3: what we do. Three four months go on, and they

462
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 3: just keep dangling on, dangling on, and then it finally

463
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 3: went to we're shutting down the podcast. New team came in,

464
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 3: we're shutting down the podcast. Like I'm sorry, this is

465
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 3: what it is, and that's understandable. Like change happens. The

466
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 3: franchisees asked many of podcasts in the past, there'll be

467
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 3: more in the future. It's like, okay, I can understand.

468
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 3: Thank you for the time. Can I reach out and

469
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 3: address all of our followers, all the people who have

470
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 3: been a part of this over the years, I can

471
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 3: I say something? And I was like, no, well, let's

472
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 3: just not say anything. So my frustrations were, you have

473
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: someone who puts so much energy, so much time, so

474
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: much commitment into essentially being the focal point of a

475
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 3: talking piece for the franchise when they went through one

476
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 3: of their hardest scandals and hardest stretches of times for

477
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 3: about three years, where she poured it into like through

478
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 3: some tough like through some of the worst things that

479
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 3: have happened in this franchise, and then too then string

480
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 3: her along and then pull the rug under that, Oh

481
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 3: they're not canceling the podcast, they're bringing in new people,

482
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 3: and they weren't even the ones to tell you that

483
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 3: they were doing that. Like that's just where I was like,

484
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 3: that's just wrong. You don't you don't do that to

485
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 3: someone who has carried the torch for you, thick and

486
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 3: thin for this long. And that's that's not even j

487
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 3: just Rebecca. That's like if I was married to someone

488
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 3: who did something else their career and their company treated

489
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: them like that, I'd be like that is that's it's

490
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 3: just not right.

491
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 2: How How how did she find out that it was

492
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: going to continue with Serena and Joe.

493
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 3: Joe texted her, Yeah, Joe reached out. That's one of

494
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 3: the things, like, I love Joan Serena so much. I'm

495
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 3: not going to respect for Joe and Serena. Before before

496
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 3: they they even took that position, Joe wanted to talk

497
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 3: to Becca and be like, Hey, this is what's going on.

498
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 3: I respect you, I respect our relationship. Let me know

499
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 3: how you want me to proceed. And it was something like,

500
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 3: of course, Becaus. She's grace, she's gracious to Joe, she's

501
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 3: gracious to the podcast, she's gracious to the franchise. I mean,

502
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 3: we wouldn't be sitting here with our son without the franchise.

503
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 3: So when Shoe had an opportunity to no brainer, Joe,

504
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 3: you need to take that. Serena, you need to take that.

505
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 3: We wish you the best luck, dominate, do amazing things.

506
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: But it's just it's from the from the decision making

507
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: people in that in that process to not be the

508
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 3: one to come straightforth and talk to back about it,

509
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 3: or give her a chance to say goodbye or apologize

510
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 3: for stringing on through those times and just like not

511
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 3: not looking her in the face while and you're going

512
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 3: to do something like business decisions happen. That is what

513
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 3: it is. That's the way that you handle yourselves in

514
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 3: those decisions where I had a problem.

515
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: How do you balance those feelings now? Like she was

516
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: so involved with the franchise. She did three shows. All

517
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: three of her appearances were like big you know, she

518
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: wasn't ever forgettable. And then she went on tour with

519
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: Happy Hour, she went on tour with The Bachelor Live,

520
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: and then she was the Happy Our co host for

521
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 2: quite some time. And you guys are a bachelor couple.

522
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: You wouldn't have been here, you wouldn't be married, you

523
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: wouldn't have your kid if it weren't for the show,

524
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: So you have to be It must be like a

525
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: lot of confusing feelings, being like, well, we have to

526
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: be forever grateful for this show, but also we feel

527
00:25:58,840 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 2: kind of screwed by it.

528
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: I would say screwed and again reiterating I will always

529
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: be grateful and I'll always have such a huge part

530
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 3: of my heart dedicated to the opportunity that franchise gave us,

531
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 3: because like you said I would not have my son,

532
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 3: I would add my wife. I would not have the

533
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 3: greatest joy in my life if it weren't for the franchise.

534
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: And I am so grateful for that, and I will

535
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 3: never talk down on it because they've given me the

536
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 3: greatest gift possible. It's just in that occurrence, it's just

537
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 3: things could have been handled different. Like I have no

538
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 3: bad blood towards anyone over there, it's just I just

539
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: personally not speak for Becca anyway. I don't want to

540
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: be involved or really associated or pushing myself out there

541
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 3: for them until the simple amends are made. And that

542
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 3: could even be as simple as as someone reaching out

543
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 3: and apologized. So if I feel and if Beca receives

544
00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 3: like some sort of actual like we fut up, I'm sorry,

545
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: that's that's it. I'm good with that. People make mistakes,

546
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: that nothing's perfect, but it's just that hasn't happened yet,

547
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 3: and that's that's a very minimal thing to ask for,

548
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 3: in my opinion. It's just it's one of those things.

549
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 3: It is what it is, and how do we move on?

550
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 3: You have you have a new purpose in your life.

551
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 3: You become a mother, you become a father and all

552
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 3: those little things they don't matter. So it's just where

553
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: we're just living our life.

554
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: One part where it felt like what the heck happened

555
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 2: was at the end of Paradise this season, they had

556
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 2: a recap of all the people who have ended up

557
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 2: together from Paradise and then you and Becca, having just

558
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: that fall and gotten married and have had a baby.

559
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 2: You weren't present in this recap, and it was just sad.

560
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: Where why was that.

561
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 3: Simple? They have to get permission to include any images

562
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: that they'd know longer on the name, image, and likeness

563
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 3: of and for us that point, going off of what

564
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 3: I just explained, we're just like, thank you, but no

565
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 3: thank you.

566
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: So okay, So that was your decision?

567
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was our decision. They did reach out asking

568
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: asking if they could use our name, image and likeness

569
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: and if we would submit a photo, and it was

570
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 3: just saying I appreciate that, thank you, but no thank you.

571
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: That makes us feel better, That makes me feel better

572
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: that it was your decision and it wasn't just like

573
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 2: they decided to leave you out of it because of

574
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: awkwardness or whatever was going on.

575
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: I don't see them as a massive deceitful, evil, wrongdoing,

576
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: villainous organization. I think they went through a lot of

577
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: change and certain things got lost in the wash, and

578
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: unfortunately my wife was one of them. And I, like

579
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 3: my rational mind can look at and be like, I

580
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 3: see how this could have happened and how this could

581
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 3: have could have played out the way that it did.

582
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: But I also see whoever's in charge, And I feel

583
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: like that's an easier conversation because you weren't the ones

584
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: who were doing X, Y and Z. It's like, hey,

585
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: I understand this is what happened. We've got on sock

586
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: and it's just like, okay, I guess it was like

587
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 3: I could respect that.

588
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: All right. Well, switching gears, what is a day in

589
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: your life? Look like? The two the three of you,

590
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: three of us, like right now, the balance, the parental

591
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: you know, shifting all that, it's.

592
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: It's it's every day is a little bit different, which

593
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:39,479
Speaker 3: is that comes in parenthood and it's Benny wakes up

594
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: anywhere from well with new daylight saving times, we're adjusting

595
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 3: to that that kind of that kind of is not fun.

596
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 3: But he wakes up around six. We'll take turns on

597
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: who takes the morning shifts. Whenever it's my days. We

598
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: wake up, we go on a walk, we look at

599
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: whatever recipes back I sent over on Pinterest over the

600
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: last couple of days, and go to the grocery store

601
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: and we'll we'll make mom a big meal during the

602
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: day so when she wakes up she'll have something, something

603
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: exciting to eat and look forward to. And then he

604
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: goes down for it's Oh, it's led to some great

605
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: recipes too. So whenever Becka sends stuff over on Pinch

606
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: or something, go okay. I love to cook, so it's

607
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 3: just it's perfect. And then when we get back of down,

608
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: we have we have. We've been fortunate enough to have

609
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: assistance of a nanny who comes and helps during the

610
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: days during the week, so we're able to continue to work.

611
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 3: I still have my real estate brokerage, I still have

612
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: my development projects. I still have all my entrepreneurial projects

613
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: that are going on at any given point. Becca Saw

614
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: is a full plate. So to have that extra set

615
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: of hands to help with Benny and to help keep

616
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: him well rounded and safe and secured and feel loved

617
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: while mom and Dad are able to work and check

618
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: in and play with them and then go back to

619
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: what they're doing. It's been it's been incredible. And then

620
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 3: we're at that point too where we're not longing doing

621
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 3: dream feed. So when he goes down around seven seven thirty,

622
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: he's until the next morning, and then you sort of

623
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 3: get your relationship back, because I mean, when the baby

624
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: can sleep, mom and dad could have mom and dad time,

625
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 3: which means binging love is blind and playing games and

626
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: just catching up over some wine and just loving on

627
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: each other. So it's been every day. It's the days

628
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: are the days are long, but the weeks are short,

629
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 3: and the fact that he's almost six months now is

630
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: just somewhat mind blowing.

631
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: So it really is. And that's coming from me who's

632
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: not part of your life but does following you on

633
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: social media and like, what six months.

634
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: I don't know how else to say this, but I

635
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: feel like I have Ashley level emotions like coursing through

636
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: my body when he's sleeping on my chest and I'm

637
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 3: looking down at pictures when he was a baby sleeping

638
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: on my chest, I have flashbacks to like insert me mere,

639
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: It's just like it's wild. It happens, it happens too fast,

640
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: it happens way too fast.

641
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: It does well. All right, Thomas, this was so fun.

642
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for filling us in on like

643
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: what's been going on with you. You guys are great. We

644
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: love watching you and it's been just like a joy

645
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,719
Speaker 2: to watch both of you fall in love and expand

646
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: your family.

647
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, and likewise, you guys, we can't wait

648
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: to see number two join you guys. Dowson any great

649
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: big brother, and especially if he's entering the way that

650
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: he is.

651
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: He's so cute. We were on an airplane two days

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Speaker 2: ago and he decided that he would show the baby

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Speaker 2: to the people around him. He literally lifted up my

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Speaker 2: shirt and it was like baby, a baby in there,

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Speaker 2: and he kisses the baby and he gives the baby

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Speaker 2: hugs and it's just too cute. Transfer that energy and

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Speaker 2: love over to like when he's here in the real

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Speaker 2: world and maybe getting a little bit more of your attention.

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Speaker 2: It'll be good, the attention that you usually get.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, gosh, yeah, then you're gonna have When when

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Speaker 3: is Dawson turned three?

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Speaker 2: Uh? He just turned two? About six?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you have some time, okay, okay, okay, Because

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Speaker 3: I'm hearing all these things, like three Nagor and all

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Speaker 3: these other terrible twos.

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Speaker 2: And all the other things terrible twos are like out.

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Speaker 2: That's out now. I think it's the three major people

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Speaker 2: complain about three more than two.

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Speaker 3: Thanks a lot. TikTok is just all right. I don't

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Speaker 3: know what TikTok. I don't know where that comic came from.

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Speaker 3: But Ashley, thank you has some great chat with you.

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Speaker 3: Goes to Ben Higgins wherever you are. I hope you're

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Speaker 3: doing well too.

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Speaker 2: Until next time, I've been Ashley, and that one has

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Speaker 2: been Thomas Jacobs. Bye.

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