1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty shows. For some people here, the 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: war has already begun. Showing in the east, where Ukrainian 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: soldiers opposed Russian back separatists is increased with two Ukrainian 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: soldiers killed. Saturday, separatist leaders ordered an evacuation with a 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: dubious warning that Ukraine surrounded by a hundred ninety thousand 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Russian soldiers plans to attack and we're taking enough food 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: for one day. She says, we don't know when we'll 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: be back. How was yesterday news this morning Russia reporting 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: that they killed five Ukrainian soldiers that had crossed the 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: border to attack Russians. I have my doubts. Also, a 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: Putin has called an emergency meeting of officials on whether 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: or not they should de glare various regions of Ukraine independent, 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: and just moments ago, a couple of separatist leaders appeared 14 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: on television asking Putin to recognize the independence of their territories. 15 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: A couple of it look like uh, thugs and suits, 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: saying we are I want to be president of new 17 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: independent what you might call it, and that charming Yeah. Exactly. 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,919 Speaker 1: After graduating from West Point, Mike Lyons had a distinguished 19 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: career in the United States Military award the Bronze Star 20 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: for his actions in combat, and is a well respected 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: and loved around here military analyst. Mike, welcome, How are you, sir? 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: Hey when guys, great to be back with you. Hey, 23 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: has it started? Well, we know when it started? Is 24 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: this the start? Yeah? I think so. I mean usually 25 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: artillery starts these kinds of combats and these kinds of conflicts, 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: and I you know, we could We're sitting there. We 27 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: got this report over the weekend about how the commanders 28 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: on the front have got their orders and the like. 29 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: I mean, we're just ignoring all principles of war about 30 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: surprise or or or or the like. Um. But from 31 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: from bradmar Putin's respect, if he controls everything on the 32 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: ground there, so I think from all practical purposes that 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: has and in his eyes, and this is just a 34 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: way of extending it out before the rest of the 35 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: world recognizes it. I think that's really what this is 36 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: all about. As he's just controlled the narrative from top 37 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: to bottom. We saw yesterday, Um, we couldn't get out 38 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: this press really is fast enough about how Joe Biden 39 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: is going to meet with him you don't know where 40 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: or when or whatever. And then all of a sudden 41 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: this morning that that's been canceled for I think, I 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: mean the Russian um uh communicate says we're not so 43 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: fast on that. So so I I do think that 44 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: now at the Olympics over, you're going to see a 45 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: lot more stepping up. But from from my perspective on 46 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: what's happening on the ground, this is this has already started. 47 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: What's interesting while watching this unfold in real time, and 48 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: it's so reminiscent of various similar incidents in history, is 49 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: that it's not clear at all what Putin's goals are. 50 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: Does he want a little? Does he want a lot? 51 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: You know? And that's part of the way expansionists keep 52 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: those would intervene, you know, off off balance. I guess 53 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: I think he wants a lot. I think that he 54 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: the kind of forces he's gathered there means he wants 55 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: a lot. I think that um, he's going to have 56 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: that capability, especially to the north and Belarus, and and 57 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: the fact that he can easily close off the boundary 58 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: of western Ukraine. UM. But this is going to be 59 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: more than just a boundary. The physical boundary that exists 60 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: on the ground, it's gonna be a cyber it's going 61 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: to be all the infrastructure, it's going to be the 62 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: things that the controls there. Um to take a look 63 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: at the amount of pipelines that run through Ukraine from 64 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: from Russia that he's going to have to strategically get 65 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: a hold of right away. I also think that that 66 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to destroy Ukraine to take and I 67 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: think that's why he's proceeding very carefully. Um, when he 68 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: does finally launched, let's say, a larger attack where it's 69 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: more obvious to people already here we go things a wrong. 70 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: He's going to really go after the Ukraine military and 71 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: in their bases and places that are likely away from 72 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: built up areaus, knowing full well that the Ukraine military 73 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: is guarding important things, but for all practical purposes, again, 74 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: they're going to be a target in this whole thing. Yeah, 75 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: that was the reporting CBS had yesterday that that he 76 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: has so many troops because he wants to occupy the country. 77 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to destroy it. He wants to have 78 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: a working, you know, economic asset of a country to 79 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: be running. Yeah, it looks like right now this is 80 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: going the way of you know, we could do this harder, 81 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: we could do this easy, and um, you saw over 82 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: the weekend also the Zalinski, the the Ukraine minister basically 83 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: challenged the West, saying, you guys have all these sanctions, 84 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: you won't tell me what they are and you won't 85 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: start them in place. Now you know he's bombing me 86 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: right now and you guys are aren't doing anything. And 87 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: you know we sent our crack vice president over there 88 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: to make a statement or two about something about something. 89 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: But again, this he letter of Putin runs this whole 90 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: thing top to bottom, and um, we have to be careful. 91 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: I also think about looking for transactions on a daily 92 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: basis of of you know, one thing is going to 93 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: happen that's gonna cause some something else. And that's because 94 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: if you just look back at it, he's been planning 95 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,119 Speaker 1: this for the last eight months. The amount of troops 96 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: that are there, the amount of seeds that have been planted, 97 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: the amount of things that he's done over the past 98 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: eight nine months, go back from the past fourteen years. 99 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: This has been going. This has been a long time coming, 100 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: which is why he's just not gonna all of a 101 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: sudden pull the plug and saying that forget it, We're 102 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: not going to do it. So here's something you know 103 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: a lot about. We have been the dominant military force 104 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: rolling into a smaller country and you know, and you 105 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: would think, Okay, we're just gonna roll them over and 106 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: take it over. But then you have, you know, a 107 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: whole bunch of people that are really unhappy that you're 108 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: there shooting that yeah and bomby alongside the road for 109 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: years to come. Is that what Putin's looking at. I 110 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: think that's one of the the terns. There's there's two 111 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: of them. He's got that one an insurgency that could 112 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: take place, knowing that we would try to fund that 113 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: and supply weapons to those people if we can get them. 114 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: This is why he has to steal that border. Um. 115 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: But I think that second thing is that the terns 116 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: of the fact that the Ukraine military you can inflict 117 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: some damage on Russian troops and sending a bunch of 118 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: Russian body bags back the other direction is not going 119 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: to go well with Russian people. Um this and say, 120 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: since let's say the sanctions do work and they do 121 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: somewhat strangle off the Russian economy and Russian people feel it, 122 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: so there's there's still there's slight bits of the terrence 123 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: still left, which is why I think he's trying to 124 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: squeeze this thing out to make it more of a 125 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: fate to complete, because he really doesn't want to go 126 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: full force a hundred ninety thousand troops occupying there. But 127 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 1: the other thing is these things never go as intended. 128 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: Look at look at the Gulf, will go back to that. 129 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: So I'm saying, never thought that the United States would 130 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: do anything, never thought the United States would put an 131 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: ally together like we did, and never thought we would 132 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: finally do anything, and look what happened there. There's so 133 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: many examples in history of where things once the shooting starts. 134 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: It's that whole Mike Tyson thing. If you know, everyone's 135 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: gonna plan to get punts in the face, and once 136 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: the shooting starts on the earnest on both sides, he's 137 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: going to lose control of the initiative at that point. 138 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: Military analyst Mike Lyons is on the line this is 139 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: less military and more diplomatic. But I don't think it's 140 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: coincidence at all that She of China and Putin signed 141 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: this gigantic new were best Buddies agreement on the eve 142 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: of this happening. How important is China being willing to 143 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: bail rush out economically? Yeah, I think is the backstop 144 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: is the net that he wanted in order to uh 145 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: feel more confident that if he does this that at 146 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: least they'll stay out of it. They won't say anything, 147 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: let's say, but they'll also provide that economic support in 148 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: the background. He'll lose some some energy exports over the 149 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: next few months, let's say. Um, And you know, now 150 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: we're seeing this alliance between Russia, China, Iran North Korea 151 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: that could contentstionally take place. And you know, here we 152 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: go back to the future. We're back to having this 153 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: these two poles again. The United States, it's done really 154 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: a terrible job the past thirty years. All administrations to 155 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: be blamed for this and not keeping together these certain alliances, 156 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: I don't think. I think, um, the last you know 157 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: what the last administration tried to do with NATO to 158 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: pony at money to figure out how we're going to 159 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: get along was important. I think this administration is just 160 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: still a day later dollar stort. When he got up 161 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: there last week and said this alliance is really strong 162 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: you see that Macron has been there to negotiate separately, 163 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: that the UK have in there to negotiate separately. We're 164 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: not really speaking with one voice. And you know, once again, 165 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: once things become more evident that he's rolled. I think 166 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: that you know that you're not going to see a 167 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: united front. Sometimes you don't recognize something as bad has 168 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: happened until it's already over. Um, is the world about 169 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: to wake up here in the next couple of days, 170 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, whatever, and just and everybody recognized, Okay, 171 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: the world is just we have a completely different world 172 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: order going on than we've had for the last many decades. Yeah, 173 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: that's it's gonna be that tipping point that we've seen 174 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: it happening often times. I mean, maybe we'll stop inviting 175 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin to Davos and stop inviting him to you know, 176 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: conferences and let him talk. You know, maybe we'll treat 177 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: him like the thug and the dictator and he is 178 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: and how you know, maybe that will happen. I'm not 179 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: sure we we we can't seem to help ourselves though 180 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: with this in terms of it's always about the money, 181 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: it's always about economics, and I still sake my head. 182 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: How does Germany shut down all their nuclear power plants 183 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: and decide to outsource their energy to Russia and knowing 184 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: full well that you know, this is who they're outsourcing 185 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: it to, even as we give away our energy and dependence, 186 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: which makes me nuts. But uh, my final question, just 187 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: as a devil's advocate, maybe a question given especially the 188 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: Russian experience in w W two, horrific losses, the rest 189 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: of it, Russia has a fair amount of you could 190 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: call a paranoia or just concern about invasion. Was there 191 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: a way maybe, is there a way to to grant 192 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: putin security assurances enough to settle this down? That's a 193 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: great question. I don't think at this point he'll believe them. 194 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: I think that's what we're talking about here. And even 195 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: if we said, you know, you can, won't be in NATO, 196 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: it's going to be that peace in our time. Analogy 197 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: we're all looking for. What's the historical analogy here? You've 198 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: got the analogy of what happened in the Middle East 199 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: in the in the sixties and seventies, of the ar 200 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: countries coming to the Israeli border threatened war. That lots 201 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: what this is to me more. But I think I 202 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: think anything else like that as appeasement, because um, there's 203 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: no way Ukraine ever is in NATO. The Germans wouldn't 204 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: go for it, the Turks wouldn't go for it, So 205 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. But we're not going to 206 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: say that quite part out loud, um And I don't 207 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: think he's gonna believe it at this point. And I 208 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: think for all practical purposes, he and he wants to 209 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: get that that former Soviet Union and restore that power. 210 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: They try to get that economic, um, both that he'll 211 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: get when he takes over this country. Military analyst Major 212 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: Mike Lions Mike, I hope we can stay in touch. 213 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: Whatever unfolds, it's going to be significant, I think so, 214 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: thanks guys. Yeah, I agree it's going to be It's 215 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: gonna be significant. Yeah, which is a gross understatement, but 216 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: there you have it, Thanks Mike. A very serious sounding 217 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: my clients there. So CBS is reporting s Day with 218 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: David Martin. I believe he was the first one that 219 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: reported that um Russian military leaders had been given the 220 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: go ahead to start and he also reported that Russia 221 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: is planning a shock and awe campaign similar to what 222 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: we did to Baghdad when we went in. And it's 223 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: gonna start with cyber and then they're just gonna light 224 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,479 Speaker 1: up the sky, bombing the crap out of stuff. Um. 225 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: And that's where I heard that. The reason they have 226 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: a hundred troops and then they want to occupy the 227 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: place quickly and have a you know, a functioning state. 228 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: They don't want to destroy the country. They want to 229 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: run the country. Right. Um, but Jake Sullivan are Secretary 230 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: of State. No, it's a national security advisor. Just a 231 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: moment ago, uh said this. Um, Russia is planning an 232 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: extremely violent operation to crush Ukraine. So I don't know, 233 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how you can do shock and awe 234 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: and not destroy a hell of a lot of stuff. Well, 235 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: what I was picturing when Mike was talking Mike clients, 236 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: was that picturing the Russian military decimating you know, X 237 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: percent of the Ukrainian military in such short order that 238 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: everybody from military leadership to you civilian leadership says, all right, 239 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: this will be suicide if we don't come to some 240 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: sort of agreement see what Russia wants. Um, Well, we 241 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: won't sacrifice, you know, the young men of this country 242 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: in a need in a you know, useless mission, suicide mission, 243 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: and then you know, Putin gets a quote unquote political 244 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: settlement and installs his puppet regime and you know, a 245 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand lives are spared. Uh, that's probably 246 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: what he's hoping for. Just so overwhelming that they just say, 247 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: there's no point in trying to resist this, right exactly exactly, 248 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: I don't know stuff. A lot of people interviewed on 249 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: the street who say they're willing to fight to the 250 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: death for this, but we'll see that is grim as 251 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: I had like been saying all last week. Thank god, 252 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: every day you live in the United States, where there's 253 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: no freaking chance some country is gonna you know, roll 254 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: tanks in and take over. You're gonna have to like 255 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: get your hunting gun and hide behind bushes and see 256 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: how long you can last against trained soldiers to try 257 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: to defend your country. Thank god, you don't have to 258 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: do that. Yipes, yipes. And at the risk of driving 259 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: the point into the ground. When we gave away our 260 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: energy independence, we empowered Putin beyond. It's difficult to estimate 261 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: accurately how much more hand to quote Seinfeld, we gave Putin, 262 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: it's absolutely awful to appease the whackadoodle American environmental left, 263 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: farming out energy production to countries that are way worse 264 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: to the environment than we are. It's just insane. You 265 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: mentioned Seinfeld, speaking of Seinfeld, what I'm giving myself for 266 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: my birthday is related to Seinfeld, among a lot of 267 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: things we can talk about coming up our text line 268 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: four nine five k FDC