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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: Nathan Segura.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon and welcome on a rainy Tuesday. I hope

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Speaker 2: you guys enjoyed yesterday's good weather, because it is gone.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you that at least it's.

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Speaker 2: Now Live in Ohio. Nathan's Gura Bow Bishop, who's out there,

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Speaker 2: who knows could be in floodwaters. We're hoping to have

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Speaker 2: him calling on the hot one. I'm not able to

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Speaker 2: get into the building due to the torrential nature of

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Speaker 2: the downpour outside. And it was wild. As I drove

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Speaker 2: in here today, I saw the gray and I mean

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Speaker 2: dark gray slate sky that was just moving from the

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Speaker 2: west towards us. And when I got here today it

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Speaker 2: was one percent sunshine. People were eating outside having lunch.

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Speaker 2: By the time that we got to air on. There's Bow,

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Speaker 2: He's braved it what a human being, and it looked

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Speaker 2: maybe it looks like it's lightened up just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But there was a while here where it was complete

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Speaker 2: torrential downpour, hail. You could hear it throughout the facility

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Speaker 2: on the roof. Hail leaks all of it because it

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Speaker 2: was it was a deluge. It was as crazy as

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Speaker 2: can be. And here comes the great bow Bishop now

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Speaker 2: making it through. How is your how'd your boat do

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Speaker 2: out there?

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Speaker 3: It's tough.

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Speaker 2: It's a tough scenario, my friend. Yeah, yeah, you did.

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Speaker 2: Obviously you look good. Did you get to did you

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Speaker 2: just decide, Hey, I'm going to parking over here closer?

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Speaker 2: I hope you did that.

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Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't do that. I was concerned about.

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Speaker 3: You know, those are reserved spots for luminaries such as yourself.

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Speaker 2: I only recently got one of those spots, which I'm

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Speaker 2: very happy about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you that somebody else too bad a light?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you had a light, you had done they

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Speaker 2: were known. My fear was that if I did that,

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Speaker 2: someone whose spot it was would be yeah, yeah, would come.

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Speaker 3: In, and then I got to deal with j J

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Speaker 3: would be upset. I don't want ja upset.

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Speaker 2: No, we don't want jams, you know, Jay, I'll take

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Speaker 2: you to the UH to the railroad station.

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Speaker 3: I don't want that.

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Speaker 2: You won't want that. I I will say it.

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Speaker 3: Is as I could.

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Speaker 2: It's calmed a little compare five minutes ago.

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Speaker 3: Five minutes ago is biblical.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes it was.

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Speaker 3: It was pure downpour and then hale hail. You're a

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Speaker 3: little concerned about damage to vehicle.

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Speaker 2: I helped mine survived. I don't know you could hear

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Speaker 2: it just walking in here, because there are many skylights,

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Speaker 2: and it sounded insane. Yeah, it was seventy three degrees

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Speaker 2: when I left home. When I got here, seventy three

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Speaker 2: and sonny when I got here, which was a little

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Speaker 2: while ago, Sure, it was seventy five and sunny. People

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Speaker 2: were outside eating lunch. Yeah, and outside, and then they

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Speaker 2: had to pack up and run. Now there were signs.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure as you drove here you saw in the

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Speaker 2: distance ahead of you. I called it slate gray sky

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Speaker 2: where you knew, okay, it's the storm is coming.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's It was very obvious as I was making

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Speaker 3: It was like I was turning into hell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's only been raining here for ten to fifteen minutes,

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Speaker 2: and it clearly you can actually see the sky again,

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Speaker 2: So it's maybe it's just a passing cell.

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Speaker 3: What are we in for here?

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Speaker 2: Does anybody ever rain all night tonight? So that it

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Speaker 2: wasn't now we're on, it's on. It wasn't supposed to

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Speaker 4: Nay, the doppler doesn't look promising.

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Speaker 3: Right, So yeah, it's it's it's eighty four eighty nine

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Speaker 2: It starts at four o'clock. But oh okay, because it's

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Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, that was wild.

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Speaker 2: At the open, I said, I hope people enjoyed yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Because it's over. You know, I was thinking about this

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Speaker 3: this morning, and I did enjoy yesterday. Should we you

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Speaker 3: know how like schools have schools have snow days? Should ohioans? Yes?

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Speaker 2: I already know, yes, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: Should they have Sundays, Yes, not Sunday Sunday space space days.

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Speaker 3: And when you see a good one, it's a get

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Speaker 3: out of jail. Get no conversation about it. Just look, boss,

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Speaker 3: I'm using one of my five Sundays January, February, March.

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Speaker 2: Anytime April to April sucks. Give them a if you

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Speaker 2: get you're lighting scales January. If you get sixty five

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Speaker 2: I think you know, when you hit a seventy day

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Speaker 2: in March with sun like yesterday, nobody should have been working.

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Speaker 2: There's been no commerce.

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Speaker 3: Seventy and sun on March, and then April April would same,

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Speaker 3: probably be the same seventy and sun. Yeah. I don't

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Speaker 3: want to put a seventy on it though, because I'd

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Speaker 3: take a sixty five and Son sometimes too, Like I

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Speaker 3: think I'd take that too. But I think in those months,

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Speaker 3: ohioan should have up to I'm willing to go as

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Speaker 3: Spot five get out of jail free cards and Boston

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Speaker 3: they just gotta just gotta deal with It's fine. Oh again,

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Speaker 3: it's a Sunday Live. Be fine, we'll deal with it tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing that's that important.

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Speaker 2: There are so many little tweaks that you could make

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Speaker 2: that would just benefit everybody.

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Speaker 3: Another one that's one for you. That good. Another one.

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Speaker 3: Spring break in Ohio, first week of March.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, get it. Get everybody out, and then you're not

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Speaker 2: on everybody else.

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Speaker 3: You're not everyone's calendar. You're getting crushed with the ticketing,

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Speaker 3: the rates, the rates, the flights, the hotels. All of

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Speaker 3: that's more manageable. I agree.

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Speaker 2: I like all of those things. By the way, watched

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Speaker 2: Curb last night, and I think because you had kind

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Speaker 2: of like set it up for me to be more down.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a great episode. I'm not suggesting it's

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Speaker 3: not a great episode. It was just hardtuf the richie stuff,

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Speaker 3: because he was so prominent that I found myself when

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Speaker 3: I would see him, I just it was distracting because

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Speaker 3: I know that he had just passed, and he looked.

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Speaker 2: Tough, he looked yeah, his eyes looked crazy.

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Speaker 2: But I like that he did a stand up set

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Speaker 3: He killed yeah, and I'm guessing a lot of laughs.

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Speaker 3: He crushed and that's his new bill, Like he goes

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Speaker 3: and does the the the l a thing people forget

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Speaker 3: with Richie Lewis and you guys United get a chance

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Speaker 3: had already pushed off from India at that point with

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Speaker 3: his passing. He was an enormous stand up in the

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Speaker 3: I want to say, like sold out Madison Square Garden.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, from Hell was one of his big bits and

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Speaker 2: he got He's in the quotable quote books or whatever.

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Speaker 2: He and that's his he invented that. Yeah, the selling

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Speaker 2: the Bartender from Hell, that's what he was doing at

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Speaker 2: the age.

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Speaker 3: That was the deal. Yeah. Yeah, so he was. He

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Speaker 3: of that and yeah, yeah, so I I want to

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Speaker 3: rewatch it because for me every it was just seeing

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Speaker 3: to be so prominent, Yeah that I I found it

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Speaker 2: There was an in memoriam at the beginninginning, huh okay,

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Speaker 3: But yes, he was.

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Speaker 2: Certainly it was a scene for him period. I thought

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Speaker 2: it was a tremendous episode.

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Speaker 3: Well, since I've been back to LA, they've all been heaters.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Freddy Mardy Fonkauser is throwing one hundred and ninety.

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Speaker 2: So do you ever listen to Conan O'Brien's podcast. No,

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Speaker 2: So Conan does a podcast. It's actually very successful. Sold

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Speaker 2: it for a ton of money, which is great, friend

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he had, Yeah, he was barely getting by

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Speaker 3: on all that money NBC was paying them to double

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he got that because of a hugely uncool

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Speaker 3: He was he was compensated. But remember he then parlayed

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Speaker 3: Then Leno's like, actually, I don't want to not do

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Speaker 3: because they did at ten o'clock yeh and or no,

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Speaker 3: they he did an hour?

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Speaker 2: What was it?

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Speaker 3: He didn't what he didn't like Instead of doing an hour,

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Speaker 3: I think Leno did like a half hour.

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Speaker 6: Is that what it was?

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Speaker 3: From like eleven thirty to midnight, and then Conan had

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Speaker 3: to and he's like, wait what, that's not the Tonight Show.

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Speaker 3: But Leno didn't want to give up the Tonight Show,

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Speaker 3: and Conan wasn't rating the way Leno. Leno always rated

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Speaker 2: I was always a letterman guy, but say, but he

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Speaker 2: he rated, and and then he wanted that gig back,

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Speaker 2: and then they pulled Conan off, and so then he

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Speaker 2: double dipped with Tonight Show money and then he got

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Speaker 2: got some more with his pot. But on his pot

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Speaker 2: he had Larry on and one of the things he

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Speaker 2: asked Larry was, how do you balance somebody who's really

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Speaker 3: So this is a great question. We've discussed this yet,

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Speaker 3: or you.

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Speaker 2: Get him to play somebody else, because Vince Vaughn is

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Speaker 2: way too big of a star not to just be

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Speaker 2: Vince Vaughan on the show. Yes, and yet he was like,

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Speaker 2: I needed somebody in the Funkhauser world. The original speech

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Speaker 3: The strong dislike I thought it was. I thought it

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Speaker 2: And it's like certain people want to play characters.

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Speaker 2: And apparently I was reading a review a lot of callbacks.

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Speaker 3: I understand, but I think he's gonna have to go

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Speaker 2: The difference is there's no way that they can have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it was like all the people, just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jackie Chiles can even win it, although he won

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Speaker 2: Did it not bad at all?

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Speaker 3: We've got some news of the day. The Browns offensives

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Speaker 2: I I saw him walking around yesterday and uh, and

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Speaker 2: We've got to go.

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Speaker 3: So it has a scoring wide receiver, wide receiver. We've

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Speaker 2: We've got to go through these mocks. I think there'll

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Speaker 2: He's like Deebo Samuel.

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Speaker 3: Right, yes, so that's it. We're gonna drift Deebo Samuel

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Speaker 2: I would love to have Deebo Samuel. I just think

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Speaker 3: Speaking of receivers, you have, you had your debut I

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Speaker 3: did in the flag last night. You know, give me

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Speaker 3: your pregame. How were you? Were you nervous? Were you jittery?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was a little nervous. Shout out to our

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Speaker 7: Just threw me a couple of light passes before the game.

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Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, kind of just worked through some drills.

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Speaker 5: It was good to like just.

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Speaker 4: Helped me out a little bit shout out to Griff.

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Speaker 5: He came, well, it was Grif.

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Speaker 3: What was Griff involved is just moral support.

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Speaker 4: Griff was throwing me some routes.

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Speaker 3: Why did he not play?

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Speaker 4: I don't know why he didn't play. It makes me

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Speaker 2: Something's burning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The last time we do these people thought you

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Speaker 2: And then remember the thing one yeah, like shock.

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Speaker 3: But every time we have the biblical rain, we get

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Speaker 2: Something smells like smoke in here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there is, like.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll be fine. We smell it too, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: yeah it's there, So we can't all four be having

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Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever it smells like.

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Speaker 3: If we see people running, we need to run, and

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Speaker 3: I think right, okay, I think we could be.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they're smiling out there, that don't look like they're running.

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Speaker 3: No, they're not. Did you get a dub? We did? Basically?

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Speaker 3: What was the score?

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Speaker 4: It was seventy one to twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. Are are you not a little ashamed

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Speaker 4: You there's no run.

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Speaker 3: You just got to spin it, spin it, spin it

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Speaker 4: You kind of have to throw games like that, really

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Speaker 3: But seventy one to twenty four. Just bury them, poor people?

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Speaker 3: Like what were there? So he said, they've got Were

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Speaker 4: It did feel like they were just a little at

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Speaker 3: Getting run up on Corey can sling it. Yeah, elitely

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Speaker 3: they had.

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Speaker 2: You said you had a kid who played at Mountain Union.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he played like outside linebackers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so that's good. And then Aman and Riley

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Speaker 3: That's that's all you need. You're only playing six yeah,

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Speaker 2: Two for fifty four to twenty seven yards of catch

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Speaker 3: That's what we need, is Zuno. We need a new

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Speaker 3: two for twenty seven yards, a completion, couple of scores, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and a big play threason and a two pointer. Nice

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Speaker 3: fantasy day for you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, little octopus to start the game touchdown in a

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Speaker 3: My gosh, right ut of the gates. Yeah, so you finished.

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Speaker 2: Eight nineteen point four and a PPR twenty one point

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Speaker 3: You don't know, do you guys feel like coming out

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Speaker 3: the favorites? I'm gonna gonna go to the you're the

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Speaker 3: official scout of the league. If you looked at these rosters,

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Speaker 3: I have not poured over them. My guess is they're

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Speaker 2: They're there's only six teams, so we know that they

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Speaker 2: ended in like twenty seven to twenty one, so I'm

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Speaker 3: Now that was sitting there in the top three.

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Speaker 7: It feels like we've got a better offense than all

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Speaker 2: Truly, that's how it was for us, Like we until

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Speaker 4: I didn't see his name.

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Speaker 7: So we were playing against the We played against Nemo Washington,

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Speaker 7: Bill Willis Okay coaching thing. He was the quarterback for

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Speaker 7: the other team, okay, and not not.

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Speaker 3: Great, not if they only scored twenty four.

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Speaker 4: I think he was scrob for his team. I think

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Speaker 2: Your score, you should score, you should have scored fifty

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Speaker 2: or the good games are score score scores, scorre scorre

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Female scores and if like you happen to get one stop,

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Speaker 2: but it should be there shouldn't be much defense.

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Speaker 3: It's all when even in my post college whether I

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Speaker 3: It's just do you get a stop on the two pointers.

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Speaker 3: I agreed. That's good. Seventy one, twenty four.

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Speaker 3: And buy your place on Sunday. What the heck was

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Speaker 2: Nobody wanted to Nobody wanted to meet me out there.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I zip by there and there were people playing.

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Speaker 3: They were it was it was great they were they

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Speaker 3: Nobody there, Yeah, there were, there were There were some

441
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Speaker 3: people out there getting a dunk. Yeah, all my boys, Yeah,

442
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,040
Speaker 3: there was, there was a good deal. Great, many of

443
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Speaker 3: them people out there playing a little bit on Sunday. So, yeah,

444
00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,080
Speaker 3: you gotta that's my that's the Sunday Sunday. Yeah, Sunday.

445
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Speaker 3: That's a win. That's good. By the way five, now

446
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Speaker 3: it's kind of okay. I think I don't know.

447
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's raining anymore. No, it was a

448
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:43,920
Speaker 2: ten minute stretch.

449
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Speaker 3: Of it was in the vandle Man. I mean it

450
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,200
Speaker 3: was like caddy shack.

451
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Speaker 2: I mean I called you to say, don't even get

452
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Speaker 2: out of you.

453
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:51,879
Speaker 3: I called you. I'm like, dude, I don't think I

454
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Speaker 3: can get in there. Yeah, and then it started hailing.

455
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,959
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm definitely not getting out here. Don't get

456
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Speaker 3: out of there. Broke and then I'm like, so then

457
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Speaker 3: I thought, well, maybe I'll call in. I said that

458
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 3: I'll call in.

459
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 2: That's what we thought.

460
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 3: And then it kind of broke and.

461
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 2: Make a run for it.

462
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,399
Speaker 3: Let's make a run. So I dutched and dodged and

463
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 3: where you go?

464
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Speaker 2: Hey, did you see you are not the roadhouse fan?

465
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 2: I am right correct, but you've seen it, yes, but

466
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 2: not to the extent Dalton.

467
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,480
Speaker 3: They did it. They did it unrewatchables.

468
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 2: Oh, that's what they did this week.

469
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 3: And Kyle's back, so so that's a home run. I mean,

470
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 3: like it's their very godfather Chris and.

471
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 2: Larry tell Simmons about how he likes the Rewatchables but

472
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Speaker 2: he wants them to announce ahead of time so that

473
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Speaker 2: he has time to then watch the movie and then

474
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Speaker 2: do it. And Simmons was like, once you know what

475
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 2: it is, watch the movie and unless he said no,

476
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 2: I want to listen to it right when it drops,

477
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 2: So give me say, hey, we're dropping Roadhouse on Monday, so.

478
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Speaker 3: I have watched it Sunday.

479
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 2: I have a week to watch it.

480
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Speaker 3: I think it's a great idea. I've always wondered why

481
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 3: they don't do that, although obviously when it comes to

482
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 3: that genre the podcasts to like it. Simmons just crushes that.

483
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 3: I think of the surprise of it, I think there

484
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 3: is something too oh my gosh, they did this. His

485
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Speaker 3: I think his attitude is it's the Rewatchables. You've all

486
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 3: seen all of these things. Yeah, so you know, like

487
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 3: you don't need to watch Roadhouse to listen to it.

488
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Speaker 3: You've already watched a thousand times.

489
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Speaker 2: But I do think it's one of those things like

490
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Speaker 2: if they held it's right. If he announced it a

491
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 2: week out, you're still getting the excitement at that moment.

492
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So the reason that I stumbled under Roadhouse was

493
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,159
Speaker 3: we I stumbled under Caddyshack because the biblical reign and

494
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 3: Pale and all of that stuff.

495
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Speaker 5: The first.

496
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Speaker 3: The best, probably probably the first twenty times I saw Caddyshack,

497
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Speaker 3: and probably the first fifty times I saw Roadhouse was

498
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Speaker 3: on cable m Yeah, so I was unaware quite a

499
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Speaker 3: different expent, probably until college, that those two movies were

500
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 3: rated R for a reason. Oh yeah, I had no idea,

501
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 3: which I need to see more? Oh, Roadhouse by far

502
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 3: by far? Yeah, not close. I've seen. I've seen Roadhouse,

503
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Speaker 3: Oh my god. Probably. I mean, that's definitely the top

504
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 3: five most most movie I've seen the most of my life.

505
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: Is Cashak's top three for me for sure.

506
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. I've seen Caddyshack a lot.

507
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: Watch year on my birthday, not like Roadhouse every year.

508
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 3: Yeah. I just watched Caddyshack. It was on this weekend.

509
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 3: I still like to flip at it again if I

510
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 3: see it. If I see it on then I'm watching

511
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 3: for ten minutes in the third court of a boring

512
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 3: college guy.

513
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 2: I'm talking to the cook and he was like, tell

514
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Speaker 2: me about some show I need to watch called high Town,

515
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Speaker 2: which I well, where would that be. He's like, it's

516
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Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty on Direct TV. I go, I cut

517
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Speaker 2: the cord. Cook, I live in the twenty twenties.

518
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Speaker 3: Me and the cook are the same.

519
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are the same. Speaking of another cutters.

520
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 3: Mister cook himself right there, what's again? Cut a lot

521
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Speaker 3: of waters, a little water, cuttle coffee. Yeah, I like it,

522
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 3: hydrate it, that's right. Yeah, No, I I still like

523
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 3: to when the sport is on and it's in a

524
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 3: little bit of a lull, let's poke around and see

525
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 3: what's on elsewhere, and we'll watch just for fifteen minutes.

526
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 3: I don't have to stick, but I get a couple

527
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Speaker 3: of scenes. I come back in for the end of

528
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Speaker 3: the game. Yeah, that's my win. That's still a win

529
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Speaker 3: for me. Can you do that with the cable cutting?

530
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Speaker 3: I mean you can jump around and you can't. Can

531
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Speaker 3: you bounce around? You can bounce around a little bit.

532
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Speaker 2: Bounce around on YouTube TV easy? Yeah, all right, maybe

533
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 2: it's got all the channels listed.

534
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Speaker 3: And then you go, oh, this one, I'm gonna go there,

535
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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna go back here.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the best is in football season and you

537
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Speaker 2: have the unbelievable multiview boxes four box and you get

538
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Speaker 2: four and then if you click on it goes right

539
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: into that game big and then you click out of,

540
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: it goes right back to the four. You can switch

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Speaker 2: which one you're getting the audio from.

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Speaker 3: It's a real delight. The length, the level of which

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Speaker 3: I'm a proponent of cable. I feel like I should

544
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Speaker 3: have free cable from the cable company. For as much

545
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Speaker 3: of a proponent as I am of it. You want

546
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Speaker 3: to You're like one of the last me and like

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Speaker 3: all of the flyover States, we're all in it together. Yeah,

548
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 3: everybody else is on onto other things. So we'll see,

549
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Speaker 3: well this goes and joyously. So yeah, all right, there

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Speaker 2: news in the league Around the league, The Broncos have

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Speaker 2: formerly released quarterback Russell Wilson. You and I were talking

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Speaker 2: about this off air yesterday after we were done. Sean

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Speaker 2: Payton said they were gonna do this last week. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he on Tuesday, he said it Monday or Tuesday, he knows,

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Speaker 2: Tuesday he said it.

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Speaker 3: One week later, they did it. They most certainly did they.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 2: He said that's what we're gonna do, and they did it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there are two ways you can go at

582
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Speaker 2: the at the NFL combine. You can say this is

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Speaker 2: what we're doing, yeah, for certain things that you have

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Speaker 2: control of that don't give you a competitive disadvantage to

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Speaker 2: say like this, or you can say nothing in lie

586
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Speaker 2: through your teeth. And some teams are advocate to both scenarios. Clearly,

587
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Speaker 2: Sean Payton advocates to the former Russell Wilson will be

588
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: about have eighty five million dollars in about dead money

589
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 2: that is the most ever for one player. In fact,

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Speaker 2: he will have two of the top four seasons of

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Speaker 2: dead money based on twenty twenty four this year thirty

592
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Speaker 2: five point four million, which is fourth all time. Third

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Speaker 2: was Aaron Rodgers, who had forty million of dead money

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three for the Packers. Second was Matt Ryan,

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Speaker 2: who had forty point five million of dead money for

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Speaker 2: the Falcons in twenty twenty two, and now Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five will be at forty nine point

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Speaker 2: six million of dead money for them. They gave up

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Speaker 2: a ton of picks. They're now paying a ton of

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Speaker 2: dead money and players players. They have picks to get

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton as well, and that didn't work out at

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Speaker 2: all with at least not with Russell Wilson. So this

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Speaker 2: is a team that is in I think a tough,

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Speaker 2: tough spot. Now, what's crazy to me about it is

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, who was admittedly we know it is a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a strange bird, David. Do you see

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00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: his thank you letter? I did, so he singles out

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Speaker 2: a couple of individual players. He singles out you know,

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Speaker 2: the fans, the city, some people in the staff, the cafeteria,

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Speaker 2: all of that. Nothing coaches, owners, GM, no, nothing, nothing.

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Speaker 3: No, I can't imagine.

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Speaker 2: No Jerry Judy either. I noticed, right, Cortland, Sutton got

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Speaker 2: some Sutton got some shot out.

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Speaker 3: No, I think it was the whole thing. I'd understand,

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00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: Like he was actually decent this year. Yeah, he was decent.

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Speaker 3: Like you brought Sean Payton to coach him. At least

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Speaker 3: that was the conventional wisdom, correct You have very few

618
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 3: assets because you've given so many things up more still hot,

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Speaker 3: I don't understand what the plan is here. I really

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Speaker 3: don't unless they're going to fire sale. I what I don't.

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Speaker 2: Understand is how how you can survive this as as

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Speaker 2: George Peyton, I don't either. So you made the trade

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Speaker 2: one of the worst in NFL history now for sure

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Speaker 2: based on what's happening. Number two, you gave up a

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Speaker 2: lot of assets for Sean Payton, and it just doesn't

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Speaker 2: feel like they're a team in a division with the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs and with Jim Harbaugh now linking up with Justin

628
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Speaker 2: Herbert and the fact that they actually have assets in LA.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't like, doesn't it feel like there's their aiming

630
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: point is to be third place in their division at best?

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Speaker 3: Right? So yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: How is it not worth it? Why would you rather

633
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: pay him to not play then it would be to

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00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: just pay him to play?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: And he played like we said he played, He was

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Speaker 2: very fairly solid level.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's no they obvious there was just

639
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: a personality thing that didn't work with him and Peyton.

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00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: That's plainly obvious. Yeah. That that that that part existed. No,

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00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 3: it's it's a wild thing. And then I saw in

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00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: the Athletic this morning that Pittsburgh the athletic reporters, and

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00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: Diana Versini was on this as well, Pittsburgh is not

644
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 3: interested in Justin Fields, They're not intertn Kirk Cousins, They're

645
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: not interested in Russell Wilson. Like who leaks that out?

646
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 3: Like why would they not?

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Speaker 8: Really?

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00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: So then who are they interested?

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Speaker 3: Pick it? And Rudolph Mason, you're gonna run that back?

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Speaker 2: You're still saying that.

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00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, but that was where did you see that? Yes,

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Speaker 3: it was the Athletic reporting from this morning. I read

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Speaker 3: that and Diana Rossini was on it that they're not

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Speaker 3: interested in acquiring any of these quarterbacks. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I guess good, good for us, good for US?

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Speaker 2: I don't what's the best landing spot for Wilson? I

657
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: would have said Pittsburgh, honestly, Yeah, Minnesota.

658
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: If Cousins reports this today about Cousins.

659
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Speaker 2: Going to atlet Atlanta, so Minnesota maybe. And you have

660
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Speaker 2: Justin Efferson, you got Jordan Addison. Yeah, you've got a

661
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: good offensive scheme built in.

662
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: But do they want that? Do they want to I

663
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: don't know what quays he's trying to do there. I

664
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 3: don't know what he's what the operator, I mean.

665
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: You put Russell Wilson on that team, It does feel

666
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: to me like at least you're competing for the division

667
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: and certainly a playoff spot in the NFC.

668
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Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, But then why not just keep Cousins.

669
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Speaker 2: Tampa if Tampa decides to go a different direction.

670
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Speaker 3: Speaking of that, in the last forty four seconds, they've

671
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Speaker 3: tagged Antoine Winfield Baker Mayfield will be a free agent.

672
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Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, so he must not be getting the money

673
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: that he thinks he's due. Yeah, from them. I'd find

674
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Speaker 2: it hard to believe that anybody would pay that to

675
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Speaker 2: him on the open market.

676
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Speaker 3: No, who would be the teams? I mean, it's the

677
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: same teams we talk. It's Raiders, Patriots, Falcons like you.

678
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 3: If we're just being objective about it.

679
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would have to be at I think you'd

680
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: be fourth ranked out of Cousins Wilson fields him, yes, best,

681
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: third ranked?

682
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. Yeah, I don't know. So

683
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: that's all fairly interesting. We today is the dead Larisa

684
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: is happening. Today's deadline for NFL teams to use the

685
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: tag on players, of contrast, is said to inspire the Chiefs.

686
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: Who's theirs on Lugerious sneed T Higgins last week? Brian Burns,

687
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: Brian Burns.

688
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 8: Yeah.

689
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: The Chris Jones part of this in Kansas City leads

690
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: you to believe that they're going to work on a

691
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: long term extension there.

692
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 7: Yes, what do you there's two more franchise tags over

693
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 7: the last go go. The Buccaneers placed it on he

694
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 7: already did that, and then the Ravens placed theres on

695
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Speaker 7: Justin Madabeakue.

696
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Speaker 3: Okay, which makes sense.

697
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: Matabek played phenomenally well in his contract year and I

698
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: think he had eleven sacks. And we're gonna talk Ravens

699
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: later on in the show, so stay tuned for that. Yeah,

700
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: we're talking about their off season, their free agency. What

701
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: it all looks like with the Ravens reporter Luke Jones.

702
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley a free agent. Yeah, so Barkley is a

703
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 3: free agent. Henry's a free agent. Eckler Eckler, uh swift,

704
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs, Right, there's some.

705
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: Good running backs, Jase Jacob.

706
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Speaker 3: He fell offul last year, doesn't Saquon feel like it's Cowboys,

707
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: didn't that just screamed Jerry.

708
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that just feels Saquon Jacob's, Henry Pollard, Eckler, Swift,

709
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: Zach Moss, JK. Dobbins, Devin Singletary who played very well

710
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: for Houston.

711
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: That's the top.

712
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: There are nine good running backs out there, and they're

713
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: This isn't a great running back draft. But again, paying

714
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: running backs has not proven to be smart.

715
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Speaker 3: No, no so, but those some of those guys are

716
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Speaker 3: difference makers, like Eckler's a difference maker maker in the

717
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 3: right system and with health be for sure. All right,

718
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: you were curious about this. Last note on here.

719
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Speaker 2: I'd like the Eckler to go to Houston.

720
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think CJ would like that too.

721
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like that for them. Yeah yeah, last note

722
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Speaker 2: on here. In college football news, Arch Manning is the

723
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: most notable name to opt out of NCAA twenty five

724
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 2: so far.

725
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 3: Don't get it all right, Here's what I think happened.

726
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: I think they have Cooper. His dad has done everything

727
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: in his power to give Arch the most natural, normal

728
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: college experience, like he had a very like nineteen nineties recruiting,

729
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: like he'd go on visits he didn't make a big

730
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: stink about when he was signing. He just put a

731
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Speaker 3: statement on In fact, his only post on Twitter was

732
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: I'm going to go to Texas. It's okay, okay, So

733
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: you go out of your way to say I'm just

734
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 3: to be a normal kid, normal kid, normal kid, normal kid.

735
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 3: And then he only does ONEIL. He only has one

736
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 3: nil and it's with Panini, and he does a Panity

737
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 3: endorsement for Nil and he donates that money to charity.

738
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,239
Speaker 3: So doing all the things right. But I think it's

739
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 3: crazy about this story is it was reported by Anwar Richardson,

740
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: who's a writer on the Texas beat. How did that

741
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: information get to him? What was their motive of getting

742
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: it to him? They said it is because he's just

743
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: going to concentrate on football. How would be in a

744
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 3: video game prevent you from concentrating on football? So to me,

745
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: they overplayed and now he's getting crushed for not being

746
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: in it. Yeah, whereas if he just would have been

747
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: in it, taking the nine hundred bucks in the game,

748
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 3: that's a win. Like they just overplayed this. They overplayed

749
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 3: trying to make him look like a normal kid who

750
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 3: just wants to play football.

751
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: A normal kid would want to be in the game,

752
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: would want to be in the games. That would be

753
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: the most normal thing to do. So want to be

754
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 2: in the game. I wonder here's what I think. I

755
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: think he hasn't played, so his ratings probably how good

756
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: could his ratings be?

757
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: Oh, it's valid, it could be.

758
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: So maybe they don't want his name on to be

759
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 2: a seventy five or something CPY ratings as a backup quarterback.

760
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe maybe I think they just overplay. I think

761
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 3: they're going out of their way to make it seem

762
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Speaker 3: like all he was about is football and it's just there,

763
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 3: just overplaying it, you know, don't think so hard.

764
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: Well to me though, and we said before, I'll just

765
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: repeat it again or reiterate it.

766
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 3: You want to be normal, Yeah, you're in the game.

767
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 3: Be in the game.

768
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: Every kid would be like, man, I can't wait to

769
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: be in a video game. They have me in a

770
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: video game.

771
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Speaker 3: Of course. First thing the boys do when they get

772
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: a game is they build themselves. That's right, That's the

773
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Speaker 3: whole thing, all right. Abe from the Combine Coming up next,

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Speaker 3: night only. Oh that's a nice touch. Thank you. Here's

783
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: ab from the Combine last week.

784
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 8: Talked about you were asked about the changes the last

785
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 8: couple consistently obviously something everybody would love to have. But

786
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 8: how important is it to give fresh ideas kind of

787
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 8: change things up a little bit?

788
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you always want some new perspective, Like

789
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 5: I think that is. I think that's healthy in any organization.

790
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 5: You know, we'll always pride ourselves on trying to stay

791
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 5: ahead of the curve and not remaining stagnant. That won't

792
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 5: mean that we won't have some foundational things that we

793
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 5: believe in, whether it's how we build the team, how

794
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 5: we play, or how we run the operation. But at

795
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 5: the same time, we're also not going to be afraid

796
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 5: of making alterations if that's what we think is necessary

797
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 5: for Zicky Andrew going back to attaches and I'm sure

798
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 5: to all three of them all want started. So how

799
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 5: do you balance that if all three of them we're

800
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 5: back and helping and on the ross from about you, So,

801
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 5: I mean tackles a position will always investigate. It's just

802
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 5: it's just important for a line snobs. Honestly, my focus

803
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 5: is on building the roster and making sure the guys

804
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 5: aren't helping. We're six months with playings.

805
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 9: I mean, going through all the injuries you guys did

806
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 9: at that position last year, that just kind of reaffirmed

807
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 9: how important it is tep depth.

808
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely.

809
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: I assume you used Callahan as a sounding board when

810
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: it came to offensive line acquisitions, the player changes.

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Speaker 5: Where do you go from here without Yeah, So, Tony,

812
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 5: I think I've mentioned this before. We always like we

813
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 5: take a collaborative approach in terms of how we build

814
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 5: the roster. I've never been a part of a good

815
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 5: organization where you know, personnel and coaching didn't support one another,

816
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 5: whether it was building the roster or on the field.

817
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 5: So that'll really continue. And I would say this like

818
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 5: Andy and Roy you know themselves. You know, they've been

819
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 5: excellent in the in the personnel process so far. I

820
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 5: think they're really good. Obviously, Bill is unusual. We will

821
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 5: miss him. He's rare and he's one of honestly my

822
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 5: favorite coaches that I've ever worked with. You about the

823
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 5: same time, life does go on and we have a

824
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 5: good process of work.

825
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 6: And how important is it to you to have a

826
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 6: veteran backup quarterback even if Joe finds another opportunity.

827
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Speaker 5: Is this a high priority? Quarterback will always be a

828
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 5: high priority for us? Like from from one to three?

829
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 5: What that looks, what that room looks like as we

830
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 5: get into the summer that I'm not sure it'll it'll

831
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 5: It'll largely just depend on who's available and at what cost.

832
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Speaker 5: Do you fully let me that's got right?

833
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Speaker 8: Yes? Sure?

834
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Speaker 10: And after four years of doing this and then coming

835
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Speaker 10: off the playoff season, does your approach heading into free

836
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 10: agency change at all? Like is there tendency maybe to

837
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Speaker 10: be less aggressive than you felt you had to be

838
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 10: in previews?

839
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Speaker 2: Yere?

840
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Speaker 5: Honestly, Scott, it's probably more about where we see the

841
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 5: roster currently. That's more what will dictate the approach as

842
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 5: opposed to where we ended last season. If you remember

843
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 5: when we were in twenty twenty, we made the playoffs,

844
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 5: but we were actually still pretty aggressive in free agency

845
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 5: the following year because we had a fair amount of

846
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 5: work to do with the defense. I can't say that

847
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 5: I think we're necessary going to have that level of

848
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 5: volume with the team currently, but things really do change

849
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 5: from from week to week. But so I can't.

850
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Speaker 2: I can't say, are you comfortable with the amount of

851
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: sealar cap room you allocate the offensive line?

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00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 5: You're in the top five, Yeah, very happy with that.

853
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 5: We will continue that. Yeah, we will be. So let

854
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 5: me back up. So Number one, we like lineman, like

855
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 5: those surprise We like lineman. We will, at least as

856
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 5: long as I'm a general manager here is here, our

857
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 5: investment in those positions will always be high. Now I

858
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 5: will qualify that with the way we think of investment.

859
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 5: Isn't just necessarily in terms of cap dollars, Like if

860
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 5: we invest high picks in there, that may not show

861
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 5: up on the let's say like the cash balance seat,

862
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 5: but that's a pretty significant resource that we're putting into

863
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 5: the position group. So over time, as you look at

864
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 5: the offensive line, room, whether it's in terms that he

865
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 5: takes or dollars that will be one of our higher

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00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 5: resource position groups.

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Speaker 8: Do you fully expect Deshaun to participate, be a full

868
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Speaker 8: participant in the off season program in terms of being

869
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 8: able to or is it kind of contingent on what

870
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 8: you see Once he started able to start a.

871
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Speaker 5: Throwing As we'll say about the Shawn, he's on track

872
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 5: starting throwing next month. I'm not gonna get two out

873
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 5: far out in front of my skis, but we're really

874
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 5: pleased and I think that he's.

875
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 3: Gonna be just fine. Will you have to redo that

876
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: contract again?

877
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 5: Not necessarily?

878
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 3: A couple of years ago, the Anthony bel became the

879
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: first one once kept, and then you have Ronnie Hickman

880
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 3: and Mamoudia Baje.

881
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 5: Have you changed your approach in that or is that

882
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 5: just like the individual level works. I think it's probably

883
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 5: a little bit. The individual level, you know, that really

884
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 5: is like a low Watts avenue for like acquiring a

885
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 5: fifty three man roster player with a starter. So I

886
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 5: think it will kind of a little bit ebb and flow.

887
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 5: We like to think that we have a good process

888
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 5: that can help us do better than the rest of

889
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 5: the industry. But even then it's it really is a

890
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 5: little bit of a long shot, a long shot.

891
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 9: Bet.

892
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 5: It's a credit to the Anthony is a creatit to

893
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 5: mamou as a credit credit to Ronnie in terms of

894
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 5: how they've been able to position yourself itself.

895
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 6: To me, will you do joint practices again with anybody

896
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 6: this summer?

897
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 5: And will you be going to the Greenbrier?

898
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 8: And if you do joint who will.

899
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 5: They be with? We will be going back to the

900
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 5: Greenbriar and we will be doing joint against the Minnesota

901
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 5: Bahees will become a backs career, He'll become area. So

902
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 5: you guys are the traveling Could you expect longer stay

903
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 5: with Greenbrier? Probably about the same time, honestly, Tony, Yeah,

904
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 5: probably about the defensive tacklet wide receiver, which is the

905
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 5: greater name try though, when you evaluate your wide receivers,

906
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 5: obviously you've got to do that. You've had your franchise

907
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,479
Speaker 5: quarterback for twelve games.

908
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 11: Does that make it difficult to evaluate kind of hall

909
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 11: holiday fits together?

910
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 5: Maybe to a degree. Maybe he increases the degree of

911
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 5: difficult team, But I don't know that I would say

912
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 5: that it goes from anas too diffic hole. I think

913
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 5: every roster deals with the move in parts and injuries

914
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 5: and co situations, and that's part of our props. Andrew,

915
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 5: what was the process like for you letting Bill go

916
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 5: to move on to kind of Sea? It was tough.

917
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 5: I mean, look, I think all of us realize that

918
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,479
Speaker 5: it's pretty unique for a situation where you know, father

919
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 5: gets to work with his son in the NFL, but

920
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 5: at the same time trying to bounce the fact that

921
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 5: you know, really just pure in a I'll use the

922
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 5: term since I'm so cold and calculating that way, the

923
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 5: best thing for the organization would be for Bill to

924
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 5: be our office a line coach. But that's one of

925
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 5: those moments where you know, some of those decisions go beyond,

926
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 5: you know, go really be on football. Like that's just

927
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 5: kind of a really special moment for Bill.

928
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 12: To that point, I asked you a friend about the

929
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 12: cold and calculating part. How did that become a part

930
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 12: of your philosophy? Like, did you ever earlier in your

931
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 12: career find yourself thinking too much of your roster decisions

932
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 12: in terms of you know, numbers and that sort of thing.

933
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 5: Let's say I wouldn't necessarily say so. And I don't

934
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 5: know that any of us truly notes we're actually in

935
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 5: those decisions decision making seats. But yeah, I wish I

936
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 5: had a better.

937
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 10: Answer, to be honest, if you know a bunch of

938
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 10: free agents, but Zadarius might be the most high profound one.

939
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 10: How did you think he fit last year? And he's

940
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 10: he a guy that whatever you're talking to, you'd like

941
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 10: to see comebacks.

942
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 5: He did really well, really pleased with this production. He

943
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 5: was in the room. We really loved having him around

944
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 5: and how all those pieces fit together. We're still why

945
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 5: do you let me tackle back? To go back to

946
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 5: the tackles with Dwine.

947
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 9: I mean, obviously made a really nice progression is a rookie,

948
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 9: But when you have a rookie like that who has

949
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 9: the season ending injury, like, what are the roadblocks potentially

950
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 9: to you know, make sure that progress keeps going, especially

951
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 9: now with new position coaches.

952
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: You know.

953
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 5: One of the things that we did, and I think

954
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 5: it's a credit to our player development function, we really

955
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 5: just kept him once he came back from the surge.

956
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 5: We kept him engaged. It assures me engaged as if

957
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 5: he was still playing towards the end of the year

958
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 5: because we didn't want him to give back the progress

959
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 5: that he made as he was preparing to be a starter,

960
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 5: because you see that with young players. It's almost like

961
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 5: a guy I have young kids when they go to

962
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 5: summer break, we don't do any reading and we don't

963
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 5: do any math.

964
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 11: They take a step back from what they're.

965
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 5: From what they're learning. So we kind of took that

966
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 5: approach in terms of like the off season of progressing

967
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 5: into next year. We feel pretty good about the plan

968
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 5: that they'll have in place during the off season with

969
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 5: Andy Envoy, their actually excellent teachers, their excellent the excellent coaches,

970
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 5: so there's probably a little less concern in terms of

971
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 5: act Why did.

972
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 8: You submit a proposal to extend the trade deadline and

973
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 8: the November Yeah, well.

974
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 5: So a couple of reasons. We really had four goals

975
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 5: in my until. Number One, we think as a league

976
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 5: it makes sense to give teams the most flexibility as

977
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 5: long as possible to have the best product down the

978
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 5: stretch run in the playoffs. Number Two, we wanted to

979
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 5: make sure that we could maintain the competitive integrity of

980
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 5: the season so you don't get into like let's say,

981
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 5: player dump being late for the year number three. We

982
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 5: wanted to retroactively correct the fact that the trade deadline

983
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 5: never moved when the season expanded to seventeen games, and

984
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 5: then really number four if at some point in the

985
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 5: future the regular season expands to eighteen games. Wanted to

986
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 5: be proactive in terms of the positioning for the trade head.

987
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 5: One of the things that we found, Tony or I'll

988
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 5: touch on two parts, You're probably get more than you've

989
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 5: bargained for here. I'll touch on two parts here. If

990
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 5: you look at us compared to the other major sports leagues,

991
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 5: if you if you look at their seasons by like

992
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 5: calendar days where games play baseball and basketball, they have

993
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 5: the trade deadline at when sixty five percent of the

994
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 5: games will played. Hockey's at seventy eight percent. Currently we're

995
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 5: at forty five percent. Our proposal would move it to

996
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 5: about fifty five percent of the games played. And oh,

997
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 5: by the way, over the last ten years, the earliest

998
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 5: that a team has been eliminated from postseason consideration has

999
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 5: been week eleven, and that happened in twenty fourteen and

1000
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen. And if you even look at the last

1001
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 5: three twenty seven or more teams are actually within two

1002
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 5: games of the wildcards, so we felt that was like

1003
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 5: the sweet spot where we could add additional flexibility. It

1004
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 5: could be proactive in terms of how we're thinking about it,

1005
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 5: but it could also be at a time where teams

1006
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 5: are still competitive as they thought about the currency. So

1007
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 5: you think of the GM, who would be against it?

1008
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 3: Why hasn't it happened?

1009
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 5: Surprise? Yeah, you'd be very surprised. You'd be very surprised.

1010
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 5: I can't either. I feel the same way, Tony. So

1011
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 5: I may need to bring you to the annual meetings.

1012
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 5: Something we'll get voted on. Uh, it's probably to be determined,

1013
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 5: Like they're probably enough within like within the committee process.

1014
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 5: There's probably more discussion that we had on, you know,

1015
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 5: on the overall topic. Whether it goes to the floor,

1016
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 5: that'll probably be determined as we get closer to the

1017
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 5: annual matings, which it's their argument against you know what.

1018
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 5: I'm probably not the one to speak on it because

1019
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 5: it'll be dripped in sarcasm. So I'm gonna get a hold.

1020
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 10: If you guys have an opinion on the kickoff, the

1021
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 10: hip drop, and maybe the touchback rule.

1022
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, so hip drop. It is something that we think

1023
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 5: is pretty dangerous. It's it's something that we need to

1024
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 5: figure out a better way to handle, you know, within

1025
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 5: the game. And then the kickoff, the kickoff rule. I

1026
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 5: think everybody agrees that what we saw this past year

1027
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 5: isn't the ideal aiming point. I know the special teams coordinator,

1028
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 5: the coordinators have been putting their heads together to come

1029
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 5: up with, you know, with the good solution. I anticipated

1030
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 5: that's something that we'll see, you know, kind of the

1031
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 5: next in the next seven weeks. So that's a little

1032
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 5: bit of antivity comality to pick up the fifty year

1033
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 5: option of the news happy with Greg. As you know,

1034
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 5: I don't comment on the contracts.

1035
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 3: Or when did I think when last year with the

1036
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 3: who'd you pick up last year?

1037
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 5: Or in joke go back to Joe, no no good?

1038
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 6: Try with with Deshaun coming off with the shoulder injury,

1039
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 6: do you have to dive him back at all in

1040
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 6: terms of the keeper game, the run game, his mobility

1041
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 6: or will you just let it rip and do whatever

1042
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 6: Ken and Kevin want to do it more the latter.

1043
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 5: Deep into the contract situation.

1044
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 3: But for guys like Marie's first to have the potential

1045
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 3: to come back, how important is a guy like that,

1046
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 3: was a big locker room guy who really created a

1047
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: culture for themselves in.

1048
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kim, we we really do. I was just really

1049
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 5: happy because what we had this year. In an ideal world,

1050
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 5: would like to bring everybody back. I think we all

1051
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 5: know the practical realities of it that we do have

1052
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 5: to make decisions and trade offs. But it won't be

1053
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 5: for lack of that. If if the guy was productive

1054
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 5: for us and a good fit, and you know, we're

1055
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 5: gonna try and try and make it.

1056
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 9: One question about bringing you you know, it sound like

1057
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 9: he getting close to playing in that postseason game he

1058
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 9: wanted to, but how has he been this offseason?

1059
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 5: And then just the jump he took this year at

1060
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 5: Jims this time like how much money you think he

1061
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 5: can rise to that series? He's great, bully Kate Clear,

1062
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 5: we should happened a week earlier. And you know just

1063
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 5: he is. He's perfect for this system. You know, he

1064
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 5: can match tight ends, He's really good in the run game.

1065
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 5: He's an excellent flitzer. He brings a ton of toughness

1066
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 5: and energy and swagger to our defense. And we're practical

1067
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 5: happen years. The offensive line comes from Philadelphia, was his

1068
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 5: contract up.

1069
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna contract up.

1070
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna comment on how did you do him?

1071
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna come and I just don't.

1072
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 6: I just don't think it's if you guys have to

1073
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 6: stir the season with two road games, do you fully

1074
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 6: embrace you know what that all might mean?

1075
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 5: And are you cool with that if it happens like that? Absolutely?

1076
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 5: They tell us where to play with playter. I was

1077
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 5: gonna well last one here.

1078
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 8: Uh, you were asked about the Brazil game at the podium,

1079
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 8: But what goes into the process of.

1080
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 5: I mean, do they?

1081
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 8: I mean, there are a lot of communication between you

1082
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 8: Philadelphia or Jack de Biller whoever with regards to international

1083
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 8: games in general, not just Zimba Flee Breeze.

1084
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 5: This is like truly just like, I'm not sure if

1085
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 5: it's appropriately for me to comment on that. So I

1086
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 5: will get back to on that. If this okay?

1087
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,439
Speaker 3: All right? There's ab from the combine last week. Coming

1088
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: up next, we continue our series around the AFC North

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Speaker 3: Luke Jones joins us on the Twisted Tea Hotline. Luke,

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Speaker 3: thank you so much for taking the time. I guess

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Speaker 3: let's start by looking back before we look forward. The

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Speaker 3: season ends in Baltimore. Obviously, the goal was to win

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. The Kansas Chiefs do that instead, they

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Speaker 3: were the one seed. Obviously, what was the feeling in

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Speaker 3: the immediate aftermath of the season, and where is kind

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Speaker 3: of the fan base in the organization now looking back

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Speaker 3: on twenty twenty three, I mean, I think.

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Speaker 11: It's tough because you have such a fantastic regular season.

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Speaker 11: I think they were the consensus best team in football

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Speaker 11: at the end of the regular season at thirteen and

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Speaker 11: four home field advantage, first time that the city of

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00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 11: Baltimore had hosted an AFC championship game in over fifty years,

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Speaker 11: and Kansas City was perceived by everyone to be down right,

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Speaker 11: So it felt like it was shaping up to be

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Speaker 11: the Ravens year. And they come up short, and they

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Speaker 11: come up short at home, and I think the feeling

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Speaker 11: now is kind of a sense of not that they're

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Speaker 11: going to fall off or not that they're going to

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Speaker 11: not remain in the mix in the AFC, but I

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Speaker 11: think there's a sense of how do you get over

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Speaker 11: the hump? And it's probably not terribly different than what

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Speaker 11: Buffalo has been asking going up against Kansas City the

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Speaker 11: last few years in January, but I think there was

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Speaker 11: definitely a sense of the Ravens having some unfinished business

1130
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Speaker 11: at the end of the year. And I think what's

1131
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 11: tough about it is so many coaching changes, with losing

1132
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Speaker 11: some staff members to promotions elsewhere, and also this not

1133
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 11: being the best salary cap picture with a lot of free.

1134
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 11: So there's definitely a sense of some changes, not panic,

1135
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 11: but definitely some disappointment on the heels of coming up

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Speaker 11: short in the title game last year.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about those coaching staff changes on the defensive side,

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00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: it was pretty much a rating, right, he kept the

1139
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: linebacker coach, he's now the defensive coordinator. But other than that,

1140
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 2: Anthony Weaver's gone to become a defensive coordinator. McDonald has gone.

1141
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: What do you make of kind of what this defensive

1142
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 2: staff is going to look like? And how does that change,

1143
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 2: if at all, what they've been doing defensively.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's going to change

1145
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 11: what they want to do defensively very much. I mean,

1146
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 11: Zach Orr, if you recall, was actually a pretty good

1147
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 11: linebacker for the Ravens about a decade ago, playing next

1148
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 11: to CJ. Mosley, had to retire because of a spinal

1149
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 11: condition that was discovered after his third season. He's been

1150
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Speaker 11: on a fast track. You know, it's not stunning that

1151
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 11: he's become a defensive coordinator. But I think the Ravens

1152
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 11: were hoping, you know, to maybe hold on to Mike

1153
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 11: McDonald a little longer than two years, as they felt

1154
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Speaker 11: he was one of the best kept secrets in the NFL,

1155
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 11: but became pretty apparent late in the year that that

1156
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Speaker 11: wasn't gonna happen. He was going to get a head

1157
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 11: coaching gigs. So I think they're really hoping to maintain

1158
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 11: as much continuity as they can. It's not as though

1159
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 11: Zach Orr is going to completely change the system in

1160
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 11: the same way that Mike McDonald didn't completely overhaul the

1161
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 11: system when he replaced Wink Martindale a couple of years ago.

1162
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Speaker 11: But as you guys know, whenever you're talking about a

1163
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Speaker 11: new coordinator, you're going to have some different fingerprints. It

1164
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 11: is someone who has not called plays as a coordinator

1165
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 11: at any level before, So you know, it would be

1166
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 11: naive not to think about the possibility of there being

1167
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 11: some growing pains. And then that's not even getting into

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Speaker 11: some of the attrition that they're probably going to experience

1169
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Speaker 11: from a player standpoint with some of their free agents. So,

1170
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 11: you know, I think it would be tough to expect

1171
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Speaker 11: the Ravens to lead the NFL and scoring takeaways and

1172
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Speaker 11: sacks once again. But you guys know this division. You

1173
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 11: know the Ravens. I mean, over the course of the

1174
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Speaker 11: last you know, going on twenty five years now, if

1175
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 11: there's something you can expect from this team to be

1176
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Speaker 11: really good defensively, even if they're not necessarily going to

1177
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Speaker 11: be the very best, and maybe they will experience some

1178
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 11: drop off, I still think that's going to be a

1179
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Speaker 11: really good defense.

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Speaker 3: Luke, we were when we saw the hiring of Monkin,

1181
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 3: because we had him over here and we were well

1182
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 3: aware of his abilities, and we said, oh God, not there,

1183
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 3: not there right like that, he's too good? And when

1184
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 3: when did how did that come together? How quickly were

1185
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 3: you were you noticing how well that was all working?

1186
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 3: And how what can they build on offensively as great

1187
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 3: as they were a year ago?

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Speaker 11: I mean, that's a great question. I think the thing

1189
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 11: that really struck me about Todd Munkin, and I wasn't

1190
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 11: familiar with him other than what you guys just said.

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00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 11: He you know obviously what he did in Georgia and

1192
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 11: what he had done in the NFL at some previous

1193
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 11: stops with some mixed results. But I think just how

1194
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 11: malleable he is, how easily he can adjust to his personnel.

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Speaker 11: And I think, I mean, he said over and over,

1196
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 11: it's like, look, you have a more Jackson at quarterback.

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00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 11: That's the heck of a start right there. So I

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Speaker 11: think he just he was personable. I think he expected

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Speaker 11: a lot out of the players, but I think he

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00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 11: did it in a way that earned their respect very quickly.

1201
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Speaker 11: I think now it's just a matter of kind of

1202
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 11: taking it to the next level. I think it's no

1203
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 11: secret that under Greg Roman, even with the success that

1204
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 11: the Ravens had had offensively, they were much more of

1205
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 11: a run first team. Well let's be clear, they still

1206
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 11: run the football and run it very well. They finished

1207
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Speaker 11: first in the league and rushing offenses past year, but

1208
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 11: they became a much more modernized pro style for lack

1209
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 11: of a better description of a passing game, not being

1210
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 11: this team that had to depend on its run and

1211
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 11: kind of just throwing when they needed to. It was

1212
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 11: kind of, you know, not the opposite, but they they

1213
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 11: had plenty of games where they came out throwing and

1214
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 11: being aggressive and passing on early down. So I think

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Speaker 11: it's really just the continuation of that and just Lamar

1216
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 11: Jackson becoming more and more comfortable with having more on

1217
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 11: his play pre snap at the line of scrimmage and

1218
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 11: adjusting protections and things of that nature that he did

1219
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 11: some of in the past but wasn't doing nearly as much.

1220
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 11: So I think they feel that they're in a good

1221
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 11: spot systematically speaking. But again, as I alluded to, with

1222
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,959
Speaker 11: some of the free agents and some of the roster

1223
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 11: building challenges they might have, you know, they're right now.

1224
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 11: They're both starting guards are set to become free agents.

1225
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 11: Their offensive tackles are veteran players with injury concerns or

1226
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 11: compensation concerns. So I think the biggest question for the

1227
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 11: offense as a whole is the offensive line. But I

1228
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 11: think they're very pleased with where what Todd Monkin brought

1229
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 11: to the table, the relationship he had with Lamar Jackson,

1230
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 11: and just a much more balanced approach that he brought

1231
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 11: to this offense after being so run heavy under Greg

1232
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:51,479
Speaker 11: Roman in previous years.

1233
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Speaker 2: Talking with Luke Jones wnst Ravens reporter and Luke, you

1234
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 2: know you mentioned free agency and the salary cap situation.

1235
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 2: We just got some news today that Justin Matdabek signed

1236
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: the franchise tender or they tagged him. Twenty two million

1237
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 2: is the number there. You look at last year and

1238
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: obviously a breakout year for Mattabk he had thirteen sacks

1239
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,479
Speaker 2: to lead the team to debian Clowney, the former Brown

1240
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: nine and a half sacks. He is also a free agent.

1241
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: Kyle vannin nine sacks, also a free agent because he

1242
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: was brought on that one year deal and he played great.

1243
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: You think about you know, just quickly do that add

1244
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: that up. You know, we're talking about thirty one and

1245
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 2: a half sacks potentially gone Matta Bka. Obviously it looks

1246
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 2: like he'll be back, but will be costly. How do

1247
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: you expect them to navigate that with their pass rush?

1248
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 11: It's something gonna be a challenge. And you didn't even

1249
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 11: mention their Pro Bowl inside linebacker Patrick Queen, who doesn't

1250
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 11: put up these monster sack totals, but he's a fantastic

1251
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 11: blitzer from that position. And you know, he's been a

1252
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 11: guy three and a half, four or five sacks most

1253
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 11: of his career every season. So it's gonna be a challenge.

1254
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 11: And I think that's why they felt so compelled that

1255
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 11: they couldn't let Mattabek hit the market in And I

1256
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 11: think it's it's unsettling from the standpoint of I mean,

1257
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 11: this is the guy who had a breakout year. You know,

1258
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 11: his previous career high was five and a half sacks,

1259
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 11: but you know, the pressures, the quarterback hits, you know,

1260
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 11: all those different metrics that kind of go beyond just sacks.

1261
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 11: Still looks so good. And as you guys know, when

1262
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 11: you're talking about interior pass rushers in the NFL, I

1263
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 11: mean they're unicorns. You know, you can find guys that

1264
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 11: can be successful coming off the edge. So I think

1265
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,959
Speaker 11: they've viewed him as a foundational piece and they're good.

1266
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 11: They're going to try to get a work long term

1267
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 11: deal worked out here at some point prior to July,

1268
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 11: I suppose, you know, hopefully much sooner for their sake,

1269
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 11: but it's going to be a challenge because you know,

1270
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 11: they have a daf Aoway, the former first round pick,

1271
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 11: had five sacks this past year. He had a nice season,

1272
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 11: but is he ready to become the primary guy coming

1273
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 11: off the edge. They have David Ajabo, a second round

1274
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 11: pick from two years ago who was really highly talent

1275
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 11: coming out of Michigan, but injuries and hasn't been able

1276
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 11: to get on the field. So I think in a

1277
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 11: perfect world they'd love to have one of Clowney or

1278
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 11: van neyt back. If we're speaking in realistic terms. But

1279
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 11: both of these guys are guys that they signed late.

1280
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,479
Speaker 11: You know, they've signed Clowney in late August, they signed

1281
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 11: Vanoid when the season they had already started. Unless you're

1282
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 11: throwing a boatload of money at them, I think it's

1283
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 11: going to be challenging to get them signed at a

1284
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 11: number that you're comfortable with at any point soon. So

1285
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 11: I think it's really going to be a challenge for them.

1286
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 11: But this goes back to their system, and again it's

1287
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 11: not Mike McDonald, but Zach orr is going to do

1288
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 11: some of the same things. There's such a heavy simulated

1289
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 11: pressure team. They're gonna view this through the lens of

1290
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 11: they're going to try their best to try to bring,

1291
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 11: you know, some of those veteran players back. But I

1292
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 11: think they also have a lot of confidence that they

1293
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 11: can create pressure, and you know, with Matabike kind of

1294
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 11: being an anchor for their interior rush, I think they

1295
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 11: feel that they can you know, blitz and send pressure

1296
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 11: and do lots of things to confuse opposing quarterbacks to

1297
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 11: try to manufacture that. But goes back to what I said,

1298
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 11: probably not in the cards for them to lead the

1299
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 11: NFL and Sacks. Once again, if we're being realistic looking

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Speaker 11: at some of those free agents, are going to.

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Speaker 2: Lose who were some guys because they're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: get under the cap, So they're gonna have to move

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Speaker 2: on to from some people. And I'm just kind of

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Speaker 2: looking at, you know, Marlon Humphrey with the post June first,

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Speaker 2: would save twelve million against the cap. Tias Bowser would

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Speaker 2: say five million at five point five, that feels kind

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Speaker 2: of likely. Morgan moses five point five, Patrick McCarry four

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Speaker 2: point three. You know, do you expect to see Patrick

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Speaker 2: Riccard who's a little it's still valuable, but a little

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Speaker 2: bit less so in the offensive? Monkan's unning that's four million,

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Speaker 2: Brandon Stevens three million. Are they gonna have to cut

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Speaker 2: some of the guys that they've been accustomed to having

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Speaker 2: on this roster?

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Speaker 11: I mean, I think, I mean that's always a question.

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Speaker 11: I mean, right, I mean, you're most teams are generally

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Speaker 11: going to release one or two guys. I mean, that's

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Speaker 11: kind of how it works. I look at Tias Bowser

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Speaker 11: almost feeling that would be a foregone conclusion. He's barely

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Speaker 11: played the last couple of years because of injuries. I

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Speaker 11: think you mentioned Patrick Riccard. To me, you love what

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Speaker 11: Patrick Riccard does, but to your point, sure, as a

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Speaker 11: team that is much more eleven personnel than heavy personnel

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Speaker 11: like they were under Greg Roman. I think the very

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Speaker 11: least there is a good chance you either see him

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Speaker 11: released and maybe they try to resign him, they try

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Speaker 11: to cut his head, you know, cut the deal, whatever

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Speaker 11: it might be. But I think the most interesting scenario

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Speaker 11: is looking at offensive tackle. I think you look at

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Speaker 11: Ronnie Stanley, who has a twenty six million dollar cap number,

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Speaker 11: He's got eleven million dollar base salary, He's got a

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Speaker 11: roster bonus to everyone. I think, even at least in

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Speaker 11: the AFC, North is aware of the injuries. He had,

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Speaker 11: that horrendous ankle injury he had four years ago, and

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Speaker 11: he just hasn't been the same guy. So I look

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Speaker 11: at him even though that would be much more of

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01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 11: Probably a post June first would be the best way

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Speaker 11: to release him if you're going to do it, and

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Speaker 11: that you don't get that cap space until June, so

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Speaker 11: it makes it tough. So I kind of look at

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Speaker 11: it through the lens of I could see a scenario

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Speaker 11: where either he or Morgan Moses isn't brought back, and

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Speaker 11: that could create a little more salary cap room. I

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Speaker 11: also think it's possible with Stanley because I don't think

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Speaker 11: anyone's paying him fifteen million dollars on the open market

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Speaker 11: after the injuries he's had the last few years, where

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Speaker 11: they could work out a pay cut, give him some

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01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 11: incentives to try to make them whole. But yeah, you

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Speaker 11: just kind of The only guy that you named that

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Speaker 11: I can't see it with would be Marlon Humphrey, which

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Speaker 11: you kind of look at that deal. There'd be okay,

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Speaker 11: you could save a little bit on being a post

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Speaker 11: uned first, but it'd be so much dead money that

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Speaker 11: you'd endure. And you know, this is the guy who's

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Speaker 11: only a year removed from being a Pro Bowl corner,

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Speaker 11: had some injuries this year, so I don't really see

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Speaker 11: him being in that conversation. But those other names you

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Speaker 11: just mentioned, I think it's entirely possible. But as I

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Speaker 11: alluded to a little bit earlier, they already have both

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Speaker 11: of their starting guards set to become free agents. I mean,

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Speaker 11: I don't know about you, guys. I don't love the

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Speaker 11: ideal for any team unless you're talking about a team

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Speaker 11: that's really bad. That's potentially looking at replacing three, if

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Speaker 11: not four, starters on the offensive line. That's an unsettling idea,

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Speaker 11: especially protecting him two time MVP quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing, and we're kind of all in this.

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Speaker 3: And obviously the Ravens got closer to the mountaintop than

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Speaker 3: we did last year. But Luke, like, we're all chasing

1368
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 3: this unicorn down in Kansas City, who's won two in

1369
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Speaker 3: a row after trading their most dangerous weapon. And we're

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Speaker 3: all all of these teams in the AFC, like it's

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Speaker 3: all like, now's the time you need to go win

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Speaker 3: right now. Like all of your players are in their prime.

1373
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 3: Your best players are in their prime, your rosters are primed.

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Speaker 3: So there's this tremendous and the Ravens are at the

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Speaker 3: top of that boat. Look, i mean, look at Buffalo's

1376
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 3: in for a really interesting offseason. Like all of us

1377
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Speaker 3: are kind of in the same spot. Cincinnati and the

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Speaker 3: Division with t Higgins, like they feel like they got

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Speaker 3: to win right now with this group, because how long

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Speaker 3: can you keep it all together? Baltimore's no different. We're

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Speaker 3: all just chasing fifteen down in Kansas City.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and Andy Reid, who's about what sounds like he's

1383
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 11: signing a contract extension as well, despite some rumors of

1384
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Speaker 11: his retirement the last couple of years.

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Speaker 8: It's tough.

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Speaker 11: I mean, that's and you guys can certainly relate to

1387
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 11: this as you talk about this for a living and

1388
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Speaker 11: trying to break down trying to bring something intelligent to

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Speaker 11: the conversation amidst lots of fan frustration. That's understandable, quite frankly,

1390
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Speaker 11: but you know, I hate to be so flippid about it,

1391
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Speaker 11: but I kind of look at the Ravens and say,

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Speaker 11: that's why I said at the beginning of the conversation,

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Speaker 11: It's kind of like, what else can you do other

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Speaker 11: than you're on that stage where you're facing Kansas City

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Speaker 11: in Baltimore in the AFC Championship game and you gotta

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Speaker 11: play better. And look, yeah, Lamar Jackson had a phenomenal season.

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Speaker 11: He was a second you know, MVP, second time in

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Speaker 11: the last five years, and almost unanimous Patrick Mahomes out

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Speaker 11: played him in that game. And you know, you can

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Speaker 11: look at some other factors as well, you know, Todd Mounkin,

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01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 11: you know, maybe the game plan, not running the ball enough,

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Speaker 11: you know, all these different factors you can look to,

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01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 11: but you just kind of look to it and say, okay,

1404
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 11: well we can talk about A, B and C and

1405
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 11: make these moves in March and April, but if it

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Speaker 11: comes down to your in the arena, you're in the

1407
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Speaker 11: conference championship game, going up against fifteen, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 11: you just got to do it. And I think it's

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Speaker 11: so frustrating because you know, as I'm sure you've joked

1410
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Speaker 11: about as well in the A, it was waiting out

1411
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 11: Tom Brady to finally ride off into the sunset for

1412
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Speaker 11: years and years and then lo and behold, Patrick Mahomes

1413
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Speaker 11: takes over immediately in that spot. So it is frustrating because, yeah,

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Speaker 11: I mean, any team that has a talented young quarterback,

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Speaker 11: you know, and certainly Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow. You know,

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Speaker 11: Deshaun Watson's still young, you know, if he can find

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01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 11: what he was in Houston. And you say that these

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Speaker 11: are all still young quarterbacks and have plenty of years left.

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01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 11: But the problem is, well, Patrick Mahomes is, you know,

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Speaker 11: I think a year and a half older than Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I mean that's what we're talking about. Here's

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Speaker 11: a year older than Lamar. So it really is a

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Speaker 11: sense of you know, especially with these teams. You know,

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01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 11: any team that has a quarterback that's making a lot

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01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 11: of money. You guys know, it doesn't make roster building impossible,

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01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 11: but it makes it much more difficult. And then you

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Speaker 11: look at a year where Kansas City is down, at

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Speaker 11: least perceived to be down, and then they just flip

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01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 11: the switch in January. It's there's definitely a sense of

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01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 11: I have to think, you know, fans immediate I'd have

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01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 11: to take behind closed doors. These teams, know, executives and

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01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 11: coaches and whatnot. At some point they just kind of

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01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 11: throw their hands up and say, what is it going

1434
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 11: to take to beat this guy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's exasperating. Absolutely, Look, this is great. Really enjoy

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Speaker 3: the conversation. Thanks for your time and your insight today.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, guys, take care.

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Speaker 3: this when we were talking, Luke was great by the

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Speaker 3: way we were going over kind of the Ravens and

1456
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 3: the roster. Yep, we're kind of all in this spot

1457
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 3: of like all of us in the AFC of trying

1458
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 3: to track down Kansas City and what are the components

1459
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 3: you need to be able to do it. I thought

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Speaker 3: Kansas City would go in there, and when some of

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Speaker 3: that was because I was burnt by them in Buffalo previously,

1462
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Speaker 3: I thought maybe this and I'm like, I'm not picking

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Speaker 3: against him again, and that ended up working out okay,

1464
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 3: But it did feel like Baltimore had the components this

1465
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 3: season to get them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and heone was gonna get him. It's at home

1467
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 2: and they they couldn't. And if you are them and

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01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 2: all of us are in this boat, Burrow's the only

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Speaker 2: one that's gotten him in the postseason, correct, So Brow.

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Speaker 3: And Brady that's it. So like for the rest of us,

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Speaker 3: that's what we're chasing down. And if you're Baltimore, it's like, man,

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Speaker 3: that was as good as we can be. You take

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01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 3: a look at this free agent list of theirs. No,

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01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 3: they're in trouble man, Well I just mentioned it. So

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01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 3: they had sixty sacks as a team last year. Their

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01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 3: top three sack keetters are all free agents. Matta bk

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Speaker 3: now he's on the franchise tag. Clowney nine point five

1478
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 3: nine for Kyle van Noyd. They're not gonna be able

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01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 3: to bring back both of those guys, likely one and

1480
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 3: the chances we've seen unfortunately for us. You know, Clowney

1481
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 3: coming off of a nine sax season the next year

1482
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 3: wasn't quite as good. So you got you may have

1483
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 3: gotten his best season. You got Vanoy's best season in

1484
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 3: a while as well. You're gonna Patrick Queen Patrick Queen

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01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 3: one interception, six passes, defense to force fumble, a fumble recovery,

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Speaker 3: three and a half sacks, one hundred and thirty three tackles,

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Speaker 3: nine tackles for loss in six quarterback kets Patrick Queen

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Speaker 3: is really good. You're not gonna you can't pay him.

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Speaker 3: And Roquansamiths so he's as good as gone. So their

1490
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 3: defense is going to look completely different. And then offensively,

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Speaker 3: Gus Edwards had eight hundred and ten yards and thirteen touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: Free agent.

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Speaker 2: K Dobbins, it just has never worked out for him

1494
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 2: and maybe his NFL crew is over, which would be

1495
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 2: very very sad. Free agent Bateman hasn't been good Odell

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Speaker 2: Beckham for fifteen million dollars. They got thirty five catches

1497
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Speaker 2: for five hundred and sixty five yards and three touchdowns

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Speaker 2: for fifteen million dollars.

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Speaker 3: That was one that in the moment we said we got.

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Speaker 2: What Yeah, that made no sense.

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01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 3: The only way that made sense was if that is

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01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 3: what Lamar wanted. They were trying to appease him before

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Speaker 3: he signed. That's the only way that one man. Rashad

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Speaker 3: Bateman has been a bust. Thirty two for three sixty

1505
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Speaker 3: seven to one. They got Zay Flowers, who's a stud.

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01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 3: But and Mark Andrews getting older coming off of injury.

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Speaker 3: Still I think a stud. But there people who are

1508
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 3: going to handle the ball are going to be different.

1509
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 3: They need they need weapons. Yeah, Zay's a great one.

1510
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be a perennial thousand yard receiver.

1511
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 3: I think next year's gonna be even better than he

1512
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 3: was this year seventy seven, eight, fifty eight and five.

1513
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, they've got they have a lot of things

1514
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 2: to do. When we went through even on the cap,

1515
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 2: you know, all of a sudden, you could say, oh,

1516
01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 2: well we say fifteen million dollars. You'd have a lot

1517
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 2: in debt if you cut Ronnie Stanley. But then you're

1518
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 2: also cutting Ronnie Stanley. Yeah, and the guys, the other guys.

1519
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 2: You want to get rid of our Morgan, Moses and Mcarrey.

1520
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 2: So then your your top three tackles are gone. I

1521
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 2: don't think you can pay Zeitler, So now your top

1522
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 2: three tackles and a guard could be gone. That's a

1523
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,560
Speaker 2: tough that's a tough way to operate. Geno Stone is

1524
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 2: a free agent and he had an excellent year. Do

1525
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 2: you know, Stone, no big deal. Seven picks this year.

1526
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 2: You pay Mattabek twenty mil. You're paying Roquan Smith a ton,

1527
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 2: You're paying Marcus Williams a ton, You're paying Marlon Humphrey

1528
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 2: a ton. And he hasn't even really been healthy for you.

1529
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 2: They're they're not in a great spot. It doesn't feel

1530
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 2: like because part of the big question for them is

1531
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 2: and it's a great question to have. The guy's key

1532
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 2: is awesome. And for whatever reason, though, Lamar Jackson, when

1533
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 2: you look at when it comes to playoff time, yeah,

1534
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 2: he's not the same player that he is in the

1535
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 2: regular season. Regular season for his career, sixty five percent,

1536
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five touchdowns, forty five picks, quarterback

1537
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 2: rating of ninety eight. It was one oh three in

1538
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 2: the regular season last year. And then you go to

1539
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 2: playoffs fifty seven point four percent, six touchdowns, six picks.

1540
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 2: He's starting at least a pick in every single playoff

1541
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 2: run that he's had so far. Uh, quarterback ringing seventy

1542
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 2: five point seven. And so at some point, if you're

1543
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens, you have to wonder can we get

1544
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 2: over them? You're a state you're stuck in it because

1545
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 2: he's too good to not have. We talked about last

1546
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 2: year there was a reason they were willing to move

1547
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 2: on from him.

1548
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 3: Yes, and he was MVP again. I mean he was

1549
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,839
Speaker 3: the NB two time MVP, two time MVP and basically

1550
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 3: one of them unanimous. Four years is five years.

1551
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been a starter for four full seasons and

1552
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 2: been the MVP twice.

1553
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 3: There is a this is going to I hope this

1554
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 3: doesn't come across. I don't mean this as negative. There

1555
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 3: is a James hardenni ish thing to Lamar from the

1556
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 3: standpoint of and I'm not talking about Nowhard I'm talking

1557
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 3: about when he won the MVP and he was a

1558
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 3: triple double guy yep for Houston or you want to

1559
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 3: use Westbrook if you want to go across sports in

1560
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 3: the analogy. But there is something about regular season. It's

1561
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 3: a problem to play him on a weekend, week out

1562
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 3: basis because they play in a way that's different. He's

1563
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 3: a different threat than everybody else. He is so elite.

1564
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 3: But when you have time to prepare and you can

1565
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 3: point towards him in the postseason, it's been different. That

1566
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 3: same thing happened to those two guys, I mean that

1567
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 3: happened to Harden the postseason, happened to Westbrook in the postseason.

1568
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 3: Like there is an elite level of having to deal

1569
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 3: with it every night that makes it hard, but is

1570
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 3: it something that works in the postseason. And we talked

1571
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 3: about it with them going into that game against Kansas City,

1572
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 3: like they were not going to be able to chase. No,

1573
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:55,560
Speaker 3: there's one way that they can win, and they have

1574
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 3: to front run in order to do it. And when

1575
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 3: you think about them, think about the crossroads they're at,

1576
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 3: Buffalo's at the Chargers are at and the damnedest thing

1577
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 3: is I mean, we're gonna have some tough decisions. Cincinnati,

1578
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 3: He's got tough decisions. Kansas City made their tough decision

1579
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 3: and won two Super Bowls. They traded Tyreek Hill and

1580
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 3: they've won the last two.

1581
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 2: So they changed their style. They evolved kind of like

1582
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 2: the Patriots. Yeah, they played this was a Mahomes kind

1583
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 2: of manage the game, make big plays when you have

1584
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 2: to Chris Jones and this defense. These corners lock down,

1585
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 2: be lockdown defense and then run Pa Checko and be physical.

1586
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 2: And you know that's what they did. And then the postseason,

1587
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,560
Speaker 2: you gotta have Kelsey as due postseason. Kelsey was unbelievable.

1588
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're all kind of changing on the fly. Yes,

1589
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 3: to chase them, they've already and they're evolving and they

1590
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 3: just yeah, so it's really hard to track them down.

1591
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 3: I knew that this was going to be a big

1592
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 3: off season for Baltimore, but until you like this, you

1593
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 3: don't really understand how much no and that teams they

1594
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 3: got even have.

1595
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 2: All of the noise, not even on there. No, I mean, yeah,

1596
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 2: they have got it is. It's tough, you know.

1597
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 3: Here's one thing they get though, buddy, they always get

1598
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 3: guys to play there. Of course sometimes for less yep.

1599
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 3: It has an it factor place. Guys love playing there,

1600
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 3: they love playing with Lamar. So they will get guys

1601
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 3: to replace some of these cats. But it's not going

1602
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,679
Speaker 3: to be a player for player exchange. No, I agree,

1603
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 3: can't be. Can't be.

1604
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 2: No, not a chance.

1605
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 3: All right, come up next a little better or worse.

1606
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 3: On a Tuesday, you listen to Cleveland Runs Daily, brought

1607
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,479
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1608
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:41,000
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1609
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally bet now

1610
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight fifty esp and Cleveland.

1611
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 3: Hey Nathan on Friday, Hey Bo September thirteenth, Billy Joel

1612
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 3: and Rod Stewart. Yeah, they're gonna be together. They're gonna

1613
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 3: be together. That's ever happened before a stute, it has

1614
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 3: not happened before. I don't think it will ever happen again.

1615
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,560
Speaker 3: This will be the first time ever. And it's just

1616
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 3: one night. It's one night only. You can buy tickets,

1617
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 3: what you can buy them, what I can give them money.

1618
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 2: You give them money, and they will give me the

1619
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,719
Speaker 2: opportunity to see something that's never been seen before.

1620
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 3: And maybe it never will again. This could be. It's

1621
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 3: a one off. It's on a Friday. It's on a Friday.

1622
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 2: You can sleep in on Saturday, sleep right in College

1623
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 2: Football Live first NFL, Second NFL Sunday coming up right after.

1624
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:07,679
Speaker 3: It's on September thirteenth, Friday, weeenth Friday the thirteenth.

1625
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 2: That said, this isn't you know it's freaky? Is how

1626
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 2: good of a deal this is? It's an unbelievable deal.

1627
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 2: That's the only freaky to me.

1628
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 3: Now, I'm gonna tell you how how do I get it?

1629
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 3: Where do I go. You're curious, where do I get?

1630
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 3: You go to Cleveland brown Stadium dot com and then

1631
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 3: you go slash. Okay, Billy and Rod to zero two four,

1632
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 3: and they're going to give you more information. I don't

1633
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 3: know how they can have more information on what I've

1634
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,560
Speaker 3: just given. Billy and Rod to zero two four, got it?

1635
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 3: That's right, Billion Rod to zero two four. It's one

1636
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 3: night only, one night only, all right, Time for a

1637
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 3: little better or worse? Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, oh man,

1638
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 3: that's funny. Ready to know that was great? By the way,

1639
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 3: you're welcome.

1640
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 4: I really feel like I should get tickets now to

1641
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 4: Billion Rod.

1642
01:16:55,120 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 2: Wellbody else you and we need about to say available? Yeah,

1643
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 2: come on in water's warm.

1644
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 7: Today we rank the top twenty five offensive free agents.

1645
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 7: This is via jer Dubin and CBS Sports. Although the

1646
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 7: list is tumbling because people keep getting franchise tagged and resigned.

1647
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 7: So a couple of people on this list have been

1648
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 7: have already come back to their original team. Okay, all right,

1649
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 7: starts though. Let's let's go number one. Who's not going

1650
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 7: back to his original team. That's Kirk Cousins. We don't

1651
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 7: know that as of right now, he has not been tagged.

1652
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 7: The deadline is at four.

1653
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 3: Well, they weren't going to take they were going to

1654
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 3: try to redo a deal for him.

1655
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 2: So and we said, I'm going to do because like Billy,

1656
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 2: Joel and Rod Sewart can come together for one night only,

1657
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:46,560
Speaker 2: why can't we do better or worse and combine it

1658
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 2: with thing or not a thing for one segment only.

1659
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 2: So not only will we say, like where they're ranked,

1660
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 2: and we'll say are they a thing or not a thing?

1661
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 2: For the Browns? I like it. I thought you would.

1662
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 3: I was excited.

1663
01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 2: I was excited to say that to you. I like it.

1664
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 3: Well, I'll do that part of it. You do the

1665
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 3: better or worse, and then I'll lead you into the

1666
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 3: thing or not a thing. And I'm not just gonna

1667
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 3: limit it to the Browns. I'm gonna go ahead. You

1668
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 3: do extra thing, We'll make it. We'll do the things,

1669
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 3: all right, So go ahead.

1670
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 7: The best offensive free agent, Kirk Cousins. Is he worse

1671
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 7: than this or just right?

1672
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 3: That's just right. He's the most important, most important. If

1673
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 3: he switches teams, that changes potentially who can win things

1674
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 3: in the NFC. Kirk Cousins reporting this morning that Kirk

1675
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 3: Cousins could end up in Atlanta, and that Arthur Blank

1676
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 3: has ordered it so so much so that he has

1677
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 3: potentially looking at real estate in the Atlanta area. Kirk

1678
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 3: Cousins on the Atlanta Falcons thing.

1679
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 2: Or not a thing, thing and play, and I think

1680
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 2: they're the favorites to win that division.

1681
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1682
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 2: It was the only hitch in the GETEA up for

1683
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 2: us on Fields to Falcon Falcons was in Less Cousins.

1684
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 2: It's the market once they made the coaching change. If

1685
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 2: they would have stayed Arthur Smith, or if they would

1686
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 2: have stayed in that world, if they would have hired

1687
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 2: Monkin Fields, for sure, But once they made the change

1688
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 2: that they made and Zach Robinson going to coordinate that

1689
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 2: offense and it's an amalgamation of what Sean ran in La,

1690
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 2: then they want to see it.

1691
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 3: Throw it, yep at a high level.

1692
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 2: And he can Drake London, Kyle pittsby John Robinson.

1693
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 3: Weapons weapons, weapons, ye. And honestly, I mean he's never

1694
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 3: been somebody who's taken less. But because of that, potentially

1695
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 3: he could if he want, if he cared to. Yeah, yeah,

1696
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 3: not that he's going to have to, but he's he's

1697
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 3: the biggest game changer on the market if he hits

1698
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 3: if if that's the way it works, yep.

1699
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 4: Next number two was Mike Edwards.

1700
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 7: Lower, he's off the list, he's been resigned. Number three

1701
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 7: is Michael Pittman, and they're just reports coming in now

1702
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 7: that he's going to get franchise tagged by the Colts.

1703
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 4: Seeing that from ESPN matter.

1704
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 2: I don't think he was a thing for us anyway.

1705
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 7: Number four is former Cowboys offensive tackle Tyron Smith. Higher

1706
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 7: or lower for him being number four?

1707
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 3: How old is he? Tyron Smith?

1708
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm fine with it. It's this is to me,

1709
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 2: this is hard to rank.

1710
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 4: What's thirty three years old?

1711
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 3: Okay?

1712
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 2: The more interesting question is where, how? Why with some

1713
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 2: of these guys. I mean, you got to he's probably

1714
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 2: the best of the tackles. But like, if you're asking

1715
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 2: me right now, I'd rather have the guy who's number

1716
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 2: eight on this list, Calvin Ridley, because that's just where

1717
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:30,440
Speaker 2: my mind's at. I'm looking with orange and brown colored glass.

1718
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,560
Speaker 3: Calvin Ridley to the Cleveland Browns thing or not.

1719
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 2: I'd like it to be a thing.

1720
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 3: Could it be a thing? I think so? Yeah, because

1721
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 3: it would cause his number. How does that work.

1722
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 2: You would be doing it saying this is probably your

1723
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 2: last year with Amari. You would ask Mari to lower

1724
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 2: his number. He'll get paid out anyway, but ask him

1725
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 2: to lower his number this year so that you could

1726
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 2: have Ridley Amari and you would have Elijah, And then

1727
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 2: in the draft, that frees you up to get either

1728
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 2: a tackle for the future, because then you're going to

1729
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 2: be dropping potentially twenty five on and off the books

1730
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 2: at the tackle position this offseason and allows you to

1731
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,719
Speaker 2: have that tackle that would be starting next to Dwan

1732
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 2: Jones in twenty twenty five.

1733
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, we we have to either I do think it's

1734
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 3: really either dtackle or receiver. Don't one of them we've

1735
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 3: got to do in free maybe both, but one of them.

1736
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 3: You've got to get a dude in free agency. You

1737
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 3: can't go into the draft like, don't you think I

1738
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 3: think we got to have another weapon offense.

1739
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 2: I think you could draft the weapon. I mean, he's

1740
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 2: supposed to be a historically great receiver draft and that's

1741
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 2: that is a premium expensive position that you can get

1742
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 2: cheaply because it would be a draft pick.

1743
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 3: But we've got to hit on it, which we've got

1744
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 3: to hit on it, which we've.

1745
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 2: I can see us do something like let me throw

1746
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 2: this out at you, all right, go ahead, drafting a

1747
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 2: guy and then signing, say someone we were interested in

1748
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 2: last year, a Mkole Hardman.

1749
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1750
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 2: So he gives you speed, he gives you return, he

1751
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 2: gives you a jets, all the stuff that Marquis Goodwin

1752
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,640
Speaker 2: was supposed to give you. He's coming off of, you know,

1753
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 2: up and down here. He did catch the game winning

1754
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 2: touchdown in the Super Bowl.

1755
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 3: Yep.

1756
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 2: And then you have a rookie with him, So you'd

1757
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 2: have a speed guy, draft a rookie that you think

1758
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 2: is just the best receiver period yep. And then you

1759
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,600
Speaker 2: add it to the mix and eventually you just have

1760
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:18,560
Speaker 2: to hit on You got to hit on the draft receivers.

1761
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 2: We just and I something Tillman can be good.

1762
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wanted more and we just didn't see

1763
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 3: enough from him. And David Bell came along late. But

1764
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 3: he isn't a game wrecker. No, So like you need

1765
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 3: when when you think about tracking down in Baltimore, we

1766
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 3: just went over them or Cincinnati. There's gonna be teams

1767
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 3: on the com Obviously Houston team's going to be coming.

1768
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 3: I think Jacksonville will be better next year, like all

1769
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 3: of those teams coming around. I just don't think we're

1770
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 3: dangerous enough offensively. Yes, there's not enough to fear, and

1771
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 3: I think you need to have Ridley could help that.

1772
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 3: Hollywood Brown could help. He would help.

1773
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 2: That could help that because he gives you he has

1774
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 2: been a productive player in this league. If Goodwin was

1775
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 2: what we thought he was going to be, you're good,

1776
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 2: April May. Yeah, yeah, just the illness was the issue there.

1777
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, do enough.

1778
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 7: Number eleven on the list is the first running back

1779
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 7: that's Saquon Barkley. Higher or lower for him in a sense,

1780
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 7: is he the best running back on this market or

1781
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 7: is there one better?

1782
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,640
Speaker 2: I think he's the best back on the market because

1783
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 2: if he stays healthy, he and he has not really

1784
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 2: been able to do that. He is able to run

1785
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 2: it and catch it very effectively. Eckler also can do that.

1786
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 2: Derek Henry much more of a runner, Josh Jacobs much

1787
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 2: more of a runner. He's still young ish. Saquon Barkley,

1788
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 2: I think he's probably the best running back on the roster.

1789
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 3: Three of those guys were first round picks, two of

1790
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 3: them high.

1791
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Eckler. I'm surprised. Eckler, for example, on this list,

1792
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 2: is behind like a Tony Pollard. He's twenty nine. I

1793
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 2: know he's small. He didn't have a good season last year,

1794
01:23:58,720 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 2: but he is.

1795
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 3: Their team didn't have a good season last year. They

1796
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 3: had injuries at receiver all over the place, like they

1797
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 3: couldn't do anything. They were wildly incompetent. Like, yes, Austin

1798
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 3: Eckler on I don't even know the team, Like you

1799
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 3: mentioned Houston, that would make all the sense in the world.

1800
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Like that would be fantastic for them. Yeah,

1801
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 3: I think. And then Saquan's the one who could make

1802
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 3: the biggest difference in a short window like him. And

1803
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 3: I still like Swift a lot.

1804
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 2: I like, yeah, I'm surprised DeAndre Swift. I think Deander

1805
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 2: so it's better than Pollard is. He was excellent last year.

1806
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 2: I can't believe he's not.

1807
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 3: Do you think he's just a punk? No, they loved

1808
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 3: him and Phil's like Detroit didn't give him any run.

1809
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 3: Philly didn't give him the run that I thought. You'd

1810
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 3: watch the games, You're like, God, just keep giving him.

1811
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 3: There was a game early in the season where like

1812
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 3: he was untackleable. He and then it just doesn't continue.

1813
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 3: I don't know, my guess. If I was Philly, I

1814
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 3: would want to keep him. I mean, yeah, I don't

1815
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 3: see why you wouldn't. He's not going to be insanely

1816
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 3: expensive because there's just running back.

1817
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,799
Speaker 2: The market is just what it is. It's flooded, flooded,

1818
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 2: flooded with free agents and then fled. It's gonna be

1819
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 2: fled with the draft again. I'm trying to get down

1820
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 2: here and see what's going on.

1821
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 7: Go ahead, and we'll go to some of the offensive

1822
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 7: linemen on the list. We've got and Wayne You from

1823
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 7: the Patriots at fourteen, and then Dalton Reisner at sixteen

1824
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 7: and Kevin Zeitler at eighteen.

1825
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 4: Is that the right order?

1826
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 7: Or should Zeitler be higher on Wayne you be lower

1827
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 7: for these three offensive linemen?

1828
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 3: Thing or not a thing? Uno asking us a three

1829
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 3: for one on guards in the better or worse saying

1830
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 3: not a thing, not a thing, not a sorry, sorry, sorry,

1831
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 3: I'm not going to participate in that. We've got two

1832
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 3: great guards, so we're good, so we can't worry about that. Next,

1833
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 3: give us the next.

1834
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 7: One, number nineteen, Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback Baker Mayfield higher

1835
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:48,759
Speaker 7: or lower for Baker?

1836
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 3: Where would you we had him fourth.

1837
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 2: Amongst those quarterbacks. Yeah, like Russ is not. Russ would

1838
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 2: be higher than him.

1839
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:00,799
Speaker 7: This was made before Russ was technic a free agency,

1840
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 7: so you can include him on this.

1841
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,759
Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift real quick, by the way, Cousins Cousins Field's

1842
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 2: Russ Bake. Yes, deandres So one thousand, forty nine yards,

1843
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 2: five touchdowns, four point six yards of carry, thirty nine catches,

1844
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 2: two hundred and fourteen yards and a touchdown. He's he

1845
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 2: was a pro bowler. Yeah, he's good.

1846
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 3: Baker hitting free agency's pretty wild because if you're the

1847
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 3: Bucks now that that's happened, you're not gonna tag him.

1848
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 2: Like he's not being tagged. Mike Evans got paid, right,

1849
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 2: Let's see what their cap situate. I mean, they could

1850
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 2: do something where they could bring Russ in. Why would

1851
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 2: here fields in? Why would they be a team that

1852
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 2: wouldn't bring justin field?

1853
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 3: Well, he can throw the deep ball.

1854
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've got Mike Evans and he could end

1855
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 2: up being your guy for a long long time.

1856
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 3: Who's the coordinator there, the OC?

1857
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know the guy that was the OC

1858
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 2: left to go be the head coach of the Panthers, right,

1859
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 2: Dave Canalis, Boy, somebody.

1860
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 3: Took that job.

1861
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 4: Liam Cohen was named.

1862
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 3: Never heard on that or nothing on that coach.

1863
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,600
Speaker 2: So they are currently they have about twenty million in

1864
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 2: cap space currently. This does not have the Mike Evans

1865
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 2: deal in it. He is not listed, so had twenty

1866
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 2: six million for Mike Evans, so they're above the cap.

1867
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 2: Chris Godwin, Chris Godwin, if they cut him post June

1868
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 2: first saves twenty million dollars. They're going to franchise Antoine Winfield.

1869
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 2: That's seventeen million, so that's on there. Carlton Dave, They've

1870
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 2: got some big numbers, dude. Chris Godwin twenty seven million

1871
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 2: cap number vite Via twenty one, Carlton Davis twenty, Tristanworth's nineteen,

1872
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 2: Winfield Junior seventeen, Jamel Deane fifteen, Jeck Barrett fourteen, Russell

1873
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 2: Gage thirteen. They're gonna have to get he's gone.

1874
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:53,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, this would be next Week's gonna be pretty interesting.

1875
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 3: Good job at to you O.

1876
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,639
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01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,240
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Speaker 3: played Ohio State and women's basketball on Sunday? Did three

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Speaker 3: point six million, which.

1885
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Speaker 2: Was the record was at the Record Center?

1886
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 3: It was no, no, no. Their tournament last year was more.

1887
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Speaker 2: But it did more than NBA Open Night, didn't She

1888
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 2: just said she passed Pistol Pete all time, all time

1889
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Speaker 2: against the Buckeyes against the Yeah, yeah, yeah, in her

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Speaker 2: final home game, three point six more than NBA Opening Night,

1891
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:50,880
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Speaker 2: a feeling, if she gets all the way to the championship,

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Speaker 2: that the championship game might outdo the men's championship game.

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Speaker 3: I believe you have that correct, which is yeah, I.

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01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 2: Believe in the nineties that would have been unfathomable.

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Speaker 3: No chance, no chance, no chance, But it would. It

1897
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 3: would depend on who's in the men's Look, if it's

1898
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 3: blue blood, then you got a chance. Sure it tough,

1899
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:14,280
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