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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Norah Jones and today I'm playing along with

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Speaker 1: Mickey Raphael.

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Speaker 2: I'm just playing with you. I'm just playing a lone

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Speaker 2: with you.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 1: There, I'm Norah and with me as always Sarah Oda. Here,

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Speaker 1: I am welcome to the show. Welcome.

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Speaker 4: Our guest today is a legendary harmonica player, Mickey Raphael.

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Speaker 5: Oh it's family times this episode.

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Speaker 4: If you don't know his name, you probably could recognize

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Speaker 4: his signature harmonica sound as he's contributed to performances and

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Speaker 4: recordings of so many artists such as Chris Christofferson, Emmy

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Speaker 4: Lou Harris, Neil Young.

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Speaker 1: Elton, John Ray, Charles Bob.

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Speaker 4: Dylan, John Prime, Solomon Burke, Alison Kraus, and many many more.

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Speaker 4: And this year he's celebrating fifty years of playing and

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Speaker 4: touring with one of our absolute favorites, Willie new Nelson.

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Speaker 1: Fifty years. He's played with Willie Nelson for fifty years.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. And I met Mickey in somewhere in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and two, the first time I opened for Willie.

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Speaker 1: And he's been a good friend for god over twenty

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Speaker 1: years now, which is crazy time. Is a funny thing

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Speaker 1: we happened to be in La in April for Willie

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Speaker 1: Nelson's ninetieth birthday party, which was a crazy two day

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Speaker 1: show at the Hollywood Bowl, And I get to spend

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Speaker 1: all week hanging out with Mickey and eating breakfast with him,

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Speaker 1: and he agreed to do this show with me. So

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Speaker 1: we had so much fun just talking and playing songs,

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Speaker 1: and I learned a lot about him that I didn't know.

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Speaker 4: And this episode really runs the gamut. I mean, you're

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Speaker 4: gonna hear songs that are familiar, You're going to learn

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Speaker 4: about his instrument, the harmonica, and hear some great stories from.

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Speaker 5: The road, oh yeah, the road, the road.

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Speaker 1: And we happen to record this episode at night in

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Speaker 1: the morning because because he had rehearsals all day for

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Speaker 1: Willie's birthday shows, and it was kind of tricky fitting

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Speaker 1: this in actually, but we started this session at night

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Speaker 1: in the morning, which is not normal for musicians with

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Speaker 1: an appropriate song. Yeah, so please enjoy this episode with

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Speaker 1: Mickey Rafael.

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Speaker 2: I'm just playing love Weesday.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever done night live at nine thirty in

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Speaker 1: the morning, Well, it's.

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Speaker 6: That's the perfect time because because you just come on

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Speaker 6: my way home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll pretend We've been out up all night, all.

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Speaker 7: Night binge watching Breaking Bad.

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Speaker 8: When the evening son gos Dave, You're gonna find.

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Speaker 1: Me hanging round.

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Speaker 3: Nine life.

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Speaker 8: Ain't no good life, but it's my life. Many people

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Speaker 8: just like me, dreaming of all used to be.

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Speaker 3: Nine life.

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Speaker 2: There ain't no.

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Speaker 8: Good but it's my life, This says blues blind.

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Speaker 2: Listen to what the blues I say. Mine is just

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Speaker 2: another scene.

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Speaker 9: From the world, a broken dream, my love.

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Speaker 2: I ain't no good.

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Speaker 10: Life, Oh but it's my life.

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Speaker 11: Listening in the blue who's a blade? Listening where the blue.

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Speaker 9: Lasty man is just another scene a little broken rage,

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Speaker 9: not love and.

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Speaker 1: Long good.

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Speaker 2: But it is mine.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're sound so good. How many times

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Speaker 1: do you think you play that song over the years?

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Speaker 6: God, fifty years, fifty years. Yeah, I'll be next week

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Speaker 6: it'll be fifty years with Willy.

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Speaker 1: So this is a whole other anniversary week too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it says ninetieth birthday tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: My I have fifty years for me and the first

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Speaker 6: fifty years, the.

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Speaker 1: First fifty years, the fifty years with Willy. Yeah, that's incredible.

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Speaker 1: How did you guys hook up? I don't know the story, really,

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Speaker 6: Well, I was playing. I was in Dallas, playing with B. W. Stevenson,

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Speaker 6: who was of a folky you know, folks singer at

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Speaker 6: the University of Texas football team. And I wasn't a big,

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Speaker 6: and a patron of the arts and loved music. And

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Speaker 6: so he called and said, after the ballgame, you know,

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Speaker 6: We're gonna have a little picking party in my hotel room.

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Speaker 6: Why don't you get your harmonicas and come over and

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Speaker 6: meet some of my friends, and you know, I want

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Speaker 6: and Charlie Pride was there, and you know, about thirty

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Speaker 6: the guitar back and forth to each other, and I

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Speaker 6: had my harmonicas and I really didn't know anything about Willy.

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Speaker 6: I had one Willie record because we were on our

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Speaker 6: CAA and I was able to go into the vault

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Speaker 6: and grab any guess who album I wanted, you know.

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Speaker 6: So there was this album called Willie and Family and

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Speaker 6: it had everybody, you know, Willie and all the band

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Speaker 6: a ridgetop and I thought, this is such an interesting album,

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Speaker 6: you know. So I got it, and I knew the songs.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to recognized, you know, some of.

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Speaker 1: The songs and they were all his songs or there were.

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Speaker 6: Some covers on that on that album. But that that's

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Speaker 6: my first you know, intro into Willie. And then when

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Speaker 6: playing night Live and funny how time SIPs away, so

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Speaker 6: he's crazy, just sitting on the floor with his guitar,

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Speaker 6: and I thought, oh, so that's who this guy is,

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Speaker 6: you know. And funny story about that album cover because

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Speaker 6: it was just, you know, it's just like twenty people

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Speaker 6: around the campfire in the woods. And I was asking Paul,

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Speaker 6: you know Willi's drummer of many years, I said, so

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Speaker 6: I can, Paul English, I said, I know.

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Speaker 7: Here's be the bass player.

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Speaker 6: And there's Willy, and there's Willie's why and kids and

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Speaker 6: his daughter, And I said, I named everybody but one guy.

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Speaker 6: I said, who is this one guy? I don't recognize?

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Speaker 6: And Paul looked at him and goes, well, don't know either.

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Speaker 6: He just walked in from out of the woods. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: which is a typical Willie.

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Speaker 5: That's very funny. Yeah, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: So when he was playing like crazy in nightlife and

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Speaker 1: that night on the hotel room floor, was that before

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Speaker 1: those songs were recorded.

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Speaker 6: No, they were recorded seventy three, so I'd heard him,

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Speaker 6: but I'd heard BB King's version or Wreatha Franklin's version,

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Speaker 6: and then you know, I just sat in with I mean,

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Speaker 6: I was playing, you know, doodling around on the harmonica,

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Speaker 6: he played Mountain Dew that was another song he played,

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Speaker 6: and he's will He said, hey, you know, if you

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Speaker 6: ever hear we're playing anywhere, come see, you know, come

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Speaker 6: weeks later they were doing a benefit in Lancaster, you know,

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Speaker 6: went and drove down there and they're set up on

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Speaker 6: the basketball court, you know, the drums.

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Speaker 7: I think I think Bobby was there.

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Speaker 6: There might have been a piano, because later on sometimes

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Speaker 6: we'd get to a gig and there's no piano.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, so what did she do? She just wouldn't play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there was no calling in a keyboard and

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Speaker 6: Piano, sidy to bring a piano over to the gym.

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Speaker 6: So I was just playing, you know, sat in with

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Speaker 6: him and I think we played that song fra Auleine

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Speaker 6: about four times because people wanted to dance.

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Speaker 7: I mean we were playing a dance really.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And then afterwards we went to a truck stop, which

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Speaker 6: is what you do at two am, you know, for breakfast,

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Speaker 6: and had breakfast and talked and I was getting ready

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Speaker 6: last cup, Willie goes, well, we're going to play in

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Speaker 6: New York in a couple of months. Why don't you

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Speaker 6: go with us? And they were playing Maxis Kansas City,

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Speaker 6: and you know, so I said sure, I'll go and

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Speaker 6: that was it.

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Speaker 7: That was it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well I was starting. There's still a few weeks

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Speaker 6: before that show happened. So I would find out where

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Speaker 6: just sit in with them.

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Speaker 7: They didn't have a bus.

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Speaker 6: Everybody was like taking their own cars to these gigs. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: And after a couple of weeks, Willie asked Paul, He said,

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Speaker 6: what are we paying Mickey, And Paul says, we're not

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Speaker 6: paying them anything. You're just sitting in and Willie goes, well,

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Speaker 6: double the salary.

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Speaker 1: So you were just waiting. You're just hoping, I know,

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Speaker 1: you get paid for this, you know, you just having fun, well,

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Speaker 6: And I thought it might be because I was this little

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Speaker 1: With big hair, big hair, long hair.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I thought it'd be fun to play in

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Speaker 6: a country western band.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 6: We played these gigs, these clubs that I couldn't go

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Speaker 7: I mean, I have to wait.

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Speaker 6: We'd park in the parking lot b too, because they

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Speaker 6: had long hair, and we wait for Paul to get there,

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Speaker 6: who was heavily armed, and he would we'd all walk

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Speaker 6: in together.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's insane.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was crazy. This is yeah nineteen seventy three,

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Speaker 6: you know, so of all the hippies. And that's one

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Speaker 6: thing that Willy really did, or that the music was

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Speaker 6: so famous for, is getting the you know, the rednecks

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Speaker 7: Yeah. But yeah, music was a common bond.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: That's great.

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Speaker 5: That's always been his magic power.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: But some of these joints, man, there was Big G's

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Speaker 6: was one of them. And that was the win Around

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Speaker 6: Rock Texas North.

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Speaker 1: Austin, Okay, I know around Rock Yeah, well.

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Speaker 6: It's really beautiful now, it's really developed. This was, you know,

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Speaker 6: just like a tin building totally.

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Speaker 1: You grew up in Dallas.

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Speaker 6: I grew up in Dallas. What part, Well, it was

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Speaker 6: North Dallas when I was there. Right now it's almost

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Speaker 6: the center of the city, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: But they're Preston uh, Preston Royal, Preston Royal, between Preston

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Speaker 6: Royal and Preston Center. And there was this little bar,

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Speaker 6: this little Italian restaurant that my mom used to go

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Speaker 6: to all the time called Popolo's. And I heard a

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Speaker 6: vicious rumor that you were the piano player.

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Speaker 5: I was, but she doesn't remember me.

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Speaker 1: She did, she didn't remember.

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Speaker 7: I have cousins that went there.

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Speaker 1: And do remember you later, Yeah, they do. Really, that's crazy.

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Speaker 6: It's so funny because you know, everybody's like, oh, that

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Speaker 6: We were all there watching and that's something that nobody

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Speaker 6: Oh, I didn't realize that's what it was. So wasn't

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Speaker 6: That's why he works, because if you would have rehearsed

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he watches I mean, he will lead it perfectly

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Speaker 6: What a great writer Chris is too. I mean, for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm going to do help me make it

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Speaker 7: Should we try it that?

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Speaker 1: Cheap, you know, yeah, man, let's do it.

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Speaker 5: Rehearsed this song.

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Speaker 5: I love that that cract.

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Speaker 6: Well, if you make a mistake, do it again, do

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Speaker 5: No, totally, but three part harmony.

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Speaker 1: No, he's so sweet. It was just his the lines

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Speaker 6: I'm glad we're rehearsing this because I haven't done it

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Speaker 7: In a while.

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Speaker 6: So will you have it?

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Speaker 8: Okay, take the ribbon from me eyes, shake it loose,

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Speaker 2: Come and lay down by my side till the early morning.

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Speaker 2: In life.

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Speaker 1: All I'm taking is your time. Help me make it

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Speaker 8: I don't care who's had on.

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Speaker 3: And I won't child to understand.

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Speaker 8: Let the devil take tomorrow, custo.

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Speaker 2: Night need fair.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday he is day, and tomorrow's out of sight.

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Speaker 2: Let the devil take tomorrow because tonight I need a phrase.

447
00:25:52,760 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 8: Yesterdayday and tomorrow's out of side.

448
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 2: And it's sad.

449
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 8: Belone, help me Maggie through the night.

450
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to be alone. Help me Maggie through.

451
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 7: I pad for the first time.

452
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: No, how did you start playing the harmonica? When did

453
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: this happen? Grown up in Dallas.

454
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, a friend of my dad's gave me a harmonica.

455
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 6: He played washtub bass. Okay, but dad's attorney and they

456
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 6: would get together. My dad wasn't musical, but my mom

457
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 6: played piano. We had a piano in the house, and

458
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 6: I would come home from school in the afternoons and

459
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 6: she'd be playing gersh when she's playing Rhapsody in Blue,

460
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 6: oh wow, And I could just remember that. And that's

461
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 6: how she could kind of just escape from me and

462
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 6: my brother. And Yes, So I grew up around music,

463
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 6: you know, and wanted to be a musician. I had

464
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 6: a guitar, but I just didn't put the time in.

465
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 6: You know, you can't just wake up. I figured I

466
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 6: could wake up and know how to play it.

467
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like a kid.

468
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 7: But the harmonica.

469
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 6: My dad's friend gave me a a owner Marine band

470
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 6: and said, if you can play O Susanna, if you

471
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 6: learn to play oh Susanna, I'll give you this harmonica.

472
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 6: So I did, you know, and I got the harmonica

473
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 6: and then just kind of carried around. It's just one

474
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 6: of those instruments you can take with you anywhere.

475
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: That's true.

476
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 5: It's much easier, yeah.

477
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 7: Than a guitar.

478
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

479
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 7: And I just you know, played it all the time.

480
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 6: Just you know, during school or at school during lunch,

481
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 6: I'd walk around the track and just by myself and

482
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 6: just kind of play the harmonica, you know, kind of

483
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 6: as a little escape. And because in school I played

484
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 6: I was in the marching band and I played the tuba.

485
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

486
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 6: So that was the way to get away from that thing,

487
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 6: you know, which I wish I still played it. I

488
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 6: think they just needed somebody to carry carry it and

489
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 6: the well, actually they did. They came to my gym

490
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 6: class and said, you know, came to Pe and they

491
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 6: said we need a volunteer.

492
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 7: We'll let you out of Pe.

493
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 6: And I was a terrible athlete and hated, you know,

494
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 6: hated sports. So I just raised my hand, not knowing

495
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 6: what I was getting into, and they took me to

496
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 6: the band room and set me at a big sousaphone,

497
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 6: you know the one that wraps around you, and just

498
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 6: said make some noise on it. And the guy, the

499
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 6: teacher told me how to you know, just do you

500
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 6: know oompah stuff, and had all the charts were written

501
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 6: out with the fingerings on the valves, three valves, so

502
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 6: it might be, uh, you know, one.

503
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 7: And three, one and two, two and three, one and.

504
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 6: Two, and I just kind of read those numbers and

505
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 6: I kind of knew enough to go, you know, to

506
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 6: play a bass line. But but even if the music

507
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 6: wasn't precise, they needed somebody out there carrying that tuba

508
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 6: with a wool uniform on. So there was there was

509
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 6: my exercise right the in Texas.

510
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: I've been there. I've been there, marching band in Texas. Yeah,

511
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: it's hell, I mean, it's just so hot. I can't

512
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: believe you did that.

513
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 6: It's like, well, we don't just get out there and

514
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 6: do the formations with the tuba, don't worry about playing.

515
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 7: So when I could pick up.

516
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 6: The harmonica, the first epiphany or the main one was

517
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 6: I went to this little club. I was hanging out,

518
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 6: this folk club in Dallas called the Rubiot, and Michael

519
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 6: Murphy played.

520
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 7: There, Jerre J. F.

521
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 6: Walker and Ray Wiley Hubbard, all these you know Texas folkies.

522
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 6: And there was a guy named Donnie Brooks who was

523
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 6: a harmonica player from Dallas.

524
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 7: And when I heard him play, it just blew me away.

525
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 6: Wow. He ended up going on to play with Whalon

526
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 6: about this a little before I was starting to play

527
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 6: with Willie, So he kind of set the uh set

528
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 6: the bar anyway for harmonica with country music. Other than

529
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 6: you know, Charlie McCoy, they weren't. I think Charlie was

530
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 6: really the only one doing it. Yeah, Donnie moved to

531
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 6: New York and was doing a lot of jingles. But

532
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 6: he set me down. You know, I met him and

533
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 6: I told him I was a big fan and won

534
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 6: learning how to play the harmonica. And he set me

535
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 6: down outside this club, the Rubiot and wrote out on

536
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 6: a napkin how to play a donnic diatonic scale, or

537
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 6: just how the notes were laid down on the harmonica.

538
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 6: It's like, uh, draw hole number one below two three,

539
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 6: draw three four, and you know, and that's that's the

540
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 6: basics for everything I played. Yeah, so he was a

541
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 6: big influence, and that's that's that's when I was hooked.

542
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

543
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 6: And I would go to concerts and bring my harmonica

544
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 6: with me, and I remember were seeing Canned heat play

545
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 6: and I went home and pulled out the harmonica and

546
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 6: I was able to bend a note or play a

547
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 6: blues lick just accidentally.

548
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 7: I just stumbled on this lick I heard that night.

549
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 5: So I'm like, wait, during the gig or after no after.

550
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 6: The game, when I went home and I thought, oh,

551
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 6: that was a lick I heard tonight. And ironically their

552
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 6: big hit was on the Road again.

553
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 5: Oh wow, a different on the road again, a different one.

554
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: Okay, we do that again. Why is that so awesome?

555
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: It's just so awesome, right, you must have felt so

556
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: good when you did it.

557
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

558
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, wait a minute, there's a pattern here,

559
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 6: there's a method to this.

560
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah wow. So how long did it take till you

561
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: had every key?

562
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 7: Oh? Till I had every key? Yeah, it was a

563
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 7: little while.

564
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 6: It went till it made use of I mean, it

565
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 6: made sense for me to have more than one key

566
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 6: and then I started doing these sessions in Dallas. I

567
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 6: met Smoking Montgomery who ran a studio some of Burnett

568
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 6: I don't know if you know the and I would

569
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 6: go there. He'd have me come by after school and

570
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 6: I'd sit in the lobby and there'd be people doing

571
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 6: demos all day long and this, and the engineer would go,

572
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 6: you need a harmonica.

573
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 7: Player, and then they'd call me in.

574
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 6: So I kind of learned to, you know, my way

575
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 6: around the studio by just doing these, you know, sessions

576
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 6: for five bucks.

577
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: A song that's so cool. Did you play a lot

578
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: of blues stuff?

579
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 6: No, I really didn't grow up on blues till later,

580
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 6: you know. Really, yeah, it was well again, I was.

581
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 6: I was really influenced by the by the English invasion. Yeah, so, uh,

582
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 6: you know Brian Jones and uh uh you know played

583
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 6: harmonica with the Stones, and there was a guy named

584
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 6: Duster Bennett who was like a skiffle band. I mean,

585
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 6: well he was a one man band. And John Mayall.

586
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 6: So my you know, intro into harmonica really were the

587
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 6: with the British bands. And then I got into the

588
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 6: folk scene, you know, with the Dylan Dylan's playing in

589
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 6: the Neil Young.

590
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 7: And John Sebastian.

591
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then later got into the blues, but I

592
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 6: never really had a.

593
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 7: Blues gig, you know.

594
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 6: But I became real close with Paul Butterfield, who kind

595
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 6: of mentored me for for many years. It was a

596
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 6: close friend, and he's my my favorite player. Telling why

597
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 6: is and phrasing.

598
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: Do you have a strict like no eating before you

599
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: play harmonic policy?

600
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 7: Just brush your teeth?

601
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, like you have to you have to have

602
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: something to eat after the show, you know, exactly.

603
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I don't have a No, I don't really

604
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 6: say I don't drink.

605
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 7: I did one time, No, but I was never really.

606
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 6: You know, I think now I've just got to I

607
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 6: was saying, you got to get some sleep.

608
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 7: That's a good thing to do.

609
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 6: But then that's not even uh that doesn't even happen

610
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 6: every day, you know. But no, I just try to

611
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 6: I listened to Paul Butterfield before I play. There's a

612
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 6: song called there's an album called the Resurrection of pig

613
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 6: Boy Crabshaw, Okay, and uh, you know, I'll listen to

614
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 6: that just to pack me up before I play. So

615
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 6: that's kind of like the only ritual.

616
00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: Do they ever go out of tune.

617
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, they go out tune all the time.

618
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: They do. It's wood and metal rights wood.

619
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 6: And there's a little brass read and if you can,

620
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 6: you can to tune them. You can file the reed

621
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 6: down and it shortens the red makes it vibrate faster,

622
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 6: so it'll go sharp.

623
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: So you could you tune them. I don't you just

624
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: get a new it? I get it because it's a harmonic.

625
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's a harmonica, and you can find it's lazy.

626
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: It's probably too hard to take it apart and file

627
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: it all.

628
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 7: No, you can just unbolt it.

629
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 6: I mean it's just a little screws and sometimes you know,

630
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 6: this is the comb the body of it. And I

631
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 6: have some custom made combs, so what I'll do sometimes

632
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 6: like they're either out of steel or coreon or some

633
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 6: kind of a special wood, and you can take them

634
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 6: apart and swap the reed plates the whole plate. The

635
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 6: reds are on a whole plate, so I can take

636
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 6: that off and if I like, what if I want

637
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 6: to keep the comb?

638
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 7: Otherwise they're pretty disposable.

639
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: Do you go for like a fancy brand?

640
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have a well, well, Honer is the company

641
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 6: that I use I've always played.

642
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: Them, that's all I know.

643
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and uh, but you can't get attached to

644
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 6: it like you could trigger. Yeah, you know, like you

645
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 6: put a guitar, some.

646
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 7: Go out of you know, they do go out of tune.

647
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Do you have a bass harmonica?

648
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 7: I do have. I didn't bring it though, but it's

649
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 7: on stage because we're using it tonight.

650
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: We're using it. That's my favorite when you play that,

651
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: that bass harmonica. Yeah, I forgot to bring it so cool. No,

652
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: it's okay. It kind of you like harken back to

653
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: your tube days when you play it.

654
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, right, do you play You play guitar.

655
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: Though, right, I play a little guitar. I don't play

656
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: with the Willies, right, No, I play piano in the Willies.

657
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 6: That that I would put some boots, put some boots.

658
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: I play guitar. Yeah, I play guitar solos even, but

659
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: you know they're pretty pretty uh squarely.

660
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 7: That's funny.

661
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: I you made did you never make an album until

662
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: that album?

663
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: Where?

664
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 7: Yeah?

665
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: And that was just thousand and one or something.

666
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 6: No, it was like nineteen eighty eight and some guys

667
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 6: were just head over a little cuss some label. Yeah,

668
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 6: and we just it was a guy that had played keyboard,

669
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 6: a d X seven actually, and we just turned on

670
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 6: the tape.

671
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 7: Machine and just made up songs.

672
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

673
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 6: And then Paul Butterfield came by one night to hang

674
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 6: out and he and I we just turned the mic

675
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 6: on and he and I.

676
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 7: Just riffed off of each other.

677
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 1: That's so fun.

678
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 7: That was fun.

679
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you wanted to do this version from another album of.

680
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 7: Oh I did somewhere, Well, I wanted to do one

681
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 7: of yours.

682
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Somewhere of the Rainbow. You did that on

683
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: an album, The on the Hand of Mouth one. Did

684
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: you want to try it?

685
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 7: Yeah, let's try that and be flat again.

686
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine. Sorry, here, I'll do a palette cleanser.

687
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: There you go.

688
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 6: So I should play the uh if I only had

689
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 6: a brain. And then he goes into Somewhere over the Rainbow.

690
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 6: Do you want to sing it?

691
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: Or I've never sang Somewhere over the Rainbow? Not in

692
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: the at home you know what I mean. You were

693
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: asking me yesterday if it's a hard song to sing, yeah,

694
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, I can sing it. It's fine.

695
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: I know that song like the back of my hand.

696
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 1: Because you know everybody grew up on that. I've never

697
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: sang it.

698
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 7: You want to try to sing it?

699
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 6: And then and then I'll play the melody afterwards, and

700
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 6: they will end with if I.

701
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: Only okay, and I won't sing that one, okay.

702
00:37:19,239 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I just do the little riff you see.

703
00:37:52,000 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 8: Way a land lad I've heard of once in.

704
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 3: Alone by.

705
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: Sound where.

706
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 12: The rainbow.

707
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 8: Birds fly, birds fly?

708
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 3: Oh the rainbow?

709
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: Wow?

710
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 3: Why game time?

711
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: Someday I wish upon a star wake up, where the clouds.

712
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: Of Bobby behind way were troubles.

713
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: My life drops away upon.

714
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: The ship Chops.

715
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 12: That's where fly up, where the rainbow.

716
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 3: Blue bird fly bird fly?

717
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: Oh, rain book? Why came tip.

718
00:40:12,480 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 3: It long?

719
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I've never played that.

720
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 7: It was fun. It's beautiful. What that may make me cry?

721
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: What a deep song man? Right, isn't it crazy? It's

722
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: like one of those songs that just everybody knows. It's

723
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 1: so emotional, Right, It's just the sentiment of that song

724
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: and the nostalgia that everybody probably has their own personal

725
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: nostalgia with the movie.

726
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I'm just thinking, okay while I'm playing this, Okay,

727
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 6: do I want this at my funeral?

728
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 7: Do I want this hit my wedding.

729
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: I want what do you want to?

730
00:42:58,640 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 7: It's just one of those songs.

731
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: It's it's so spiritual, Yes, it is spirituals it's almost

732
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: like a gospel song. These are not chromatic heart harmonica.

733
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 7: No, they're not.

734
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 6: So some of the notes you have to do.

735
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: You play chromatic harmonica very little. Yeah, it's a whole

736
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: other thing, right, it's.

737
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 6: A whole other instrument. Oh wow, So you actually have

738
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 6: to know music? Do you have to be a You

739
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 6: have to know a musician. You have to be a

740
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 6: musician to play them. These are all mostly by year you.

741
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 6: So if I can hear a melody, I can play it.

742
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:32,959
Speaker 1: Yeah.

743
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 7: A chromatic you can play anything. Really, No, especially if

744
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 7: you're a reader. Yeah.

745
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: On the chromatic, there's like a little is there a

746
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: do they just have every note? Actually, well you have.

747
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 6: A little like I'd like to blow the first hole

748
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 6: blow it's a sea you put this, push the button in.

749
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 7: It's a sea shark.

750
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 5: So there's a button to change the note.

751
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 6: Okay, raises at a half step. Yeah, So as you

752
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 6: knew all your scales, you could play anything. I guess

753
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 6: I wouldn't have to carry thirty forty.

754
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but thirty forty harmonicas fits in a tiny loop.

755
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, actual chromatic.

756
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 7: You don't really bend though, it's so easily yeah chromatic.

757
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't forget that. So you've lived fifty years on

758
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: the road pretty.

759
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 7: Much pretty much.

760
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

761
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 5: How many dates a year do you guys usually do?

762
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 7: We used to do about one hundred. We're doing sixty

763
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 7: this year.

764
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, and then there's days off too, so

765
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 6: it I mean it used to will it used to

766
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 6: go out maybe in the eighties, we'd go out ten

767
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 6: weeks at a.

768
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: Time, some ten weeks straight.

769
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 7: Yeah.

770
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 6: Wow, I mean it's not so much fun anymore for

771
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 6: me anyway. Yeah, I'm over it.

772
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: Well, that's a long time to be out there, yeah,

773
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: for anybody, for anybody. Yeah, but in the eighties.

774
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, we were young and dumb and it was fun.

775
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: And that's a lot though.

776
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 7: Yeah.

777
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 6: I mean the bands lasted longer too than everybody's fan.

778
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 6: It's got to be hard on a family and kids.

779
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 6: I never had kids, and I think I was just

780
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 6: selfish enough to, uh, to keep the music career going,

781
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 6: you know, I just didn't want to leave.

782
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 7: I can't imagine leaving, you know, kids at home.

783
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it means my imaginary kids doesn't

784
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: mean you're selfish, but yeah, I know it must have.

785
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a weird.

786
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 7: You get home and your kids going, who are you?

787
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: You know?

788
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah this week I'm gone one week and I

789
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: feel horrible, but it's crazy.

790
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, but they and then they get to see to

791
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 6: travel on the bus with you and yeah, and see.

792
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: That's fine world. Yeah.

793
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Willie took his kids.

794
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 6: We went to Australia with the highwaymen and everybody brought

795
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 6: their kids.

796
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: Everybody.

797
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 6: Chris brought all his kids, and Willie brought his kids,

798
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 6: you know, Micah and uh and Lucas.

799
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I.

800
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 6: Remember I can't remember if it's Jody or which one

801
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 6: of Christofferson's kids. When we got to the airport in Sydney,

802
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 6: he was Uh. I got off the plane and there

803
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 6: was his kids just screaming and crying and stuff.

804
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 7: It's like, what's going on?

805
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 6: And Chris as well, We promised him at the bottom

806
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 6: of the world, and he thought he'd be upside down

807
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 6: walking around upside down.

808
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: That's pretty funny.

809
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 7: First big disappointment for that case.

810
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: Exactly. I took my kids all over the world when

811
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: they were really little, and they don't remember any of it.

812
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 6: They remember, you.

813
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: Know, hotel rooms and the bus, but they don't remember

814
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,479
Speaker 1: going to Japan or because they were just just young

815
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: enough to where they don't really remember it. It's pretty funny.

816
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, but you grew up in Dallas.

817
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: I grew up in Dallas. Yeah, I grew up in

818
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: I was born in New York, but moved to Dallas

819
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: when I was four, and then we moved to grape Vine.

820
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: We lived in grape Vine for about five or six years,

821
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: and then I moved to Dallas for high school because

822
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: I went to the Performing Arts High School in downtown.

823
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 6: And who was at school with you then that they

824
00:46:58,719 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 6: came out of that? Did eric about you?

825
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: She did come out of there, but she was older

826
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: than me, so I didn't go to school with her,

827
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: but she was like our hero. And Roy Hargrove went

828
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: to my school again older, but yeah, it was a

829
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: really doesn't just pass Yeah he passed away a few

830
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, way too young. And actually Eadie brookel

831
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: went to my school.

832
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, she went to another also a high school

833
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 6: that that was kind of the high school next high

834
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 6: school over from me.

835
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 7: I went to Hillcrest, had to like.

836
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 5: Islands okay, cool?

837
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: Dallas.

838
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: Your accent always reminds me of family too. Oh really

839
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: well yeah, because it's like I feel like that Dallas

840
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: accent is very particular. People think of Texas as having

841
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: a Southern accent, but it's a different it's a.

842
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 6: Different thing my family and my dad was German, German refugee,

843
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 6: so he had a heavy, heavy German accent really yeah,

844
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 6: which I never spoke any German. But my mom was

845
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 6: from New Orleans.

846
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 7: Ah, well she might have had a Southern draw.

847
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 1: That's a good mix.

848
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, very musical.

849
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 6: I mean New Orleans. There's so much music totally there.

850
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 6: And then my mom playing I'll never get it. I

851
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 6: mean Rhapsody in Blue is such a Do you play it?

852
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: I mean I can fake like one part? Yeah, no,

853
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: I can't.

854
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 7: Play I can't play it.

855
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: I can't play like that, but.

856
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 5: Nope, I can't.

857
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: Should we play another song?

858
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 7: Yeah?

859
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

860
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 6: What do we?

861
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 7: What do you want?

862
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 11: Oh?

863
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 7: Let's do?

864
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 12: Uh?

865
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 7: Which I was stumbling through your stuff, stumble on my.

866
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: Way, I know when you suggested that I had to

867
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: google if there was another song called stumble on my

868
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: Way that I didn't know because I couldn't believe that.

869
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 7: You know, Yeah, I love this one.

870
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: I love that. That's so sweet.

871
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 7: Let me guess be flat.

872
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: Yep, we can do it and see if you want.

873
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 6: Don't be flat, okay, because I've already got there's that

874
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 6: that seventh that I like you.

875
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's right.

876
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 6: So you know where the steel player steel comes in

877
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 6: kind of it says I'll kiss the dawn and now

878
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 6: I'll stumble on my way.

879
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 7: I'm going to play a whole solo on that because

880
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 7: I just love that melody.

881
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 5: Okay, let me just make sure I have where to

882
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 5: not play.

883
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 7: Oh, just play anywhere, and then we'll just fake it.

884
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: Okay, just look at it.

885
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 7: We don't want to know what we're doing.

886
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: We don't really want to know what we're doing. Will

887
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: you look at me if I if I'm supposed to

888
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: come back in?

889
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 7: Oh? Okay, yeah, this is a weird song.

890
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 3: Wed.

891
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, you don't know when a verse ends?

892
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: No, and I've actually never done it live. Oh well,

893
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: I mean I did it once for this live stream thing,

894
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: but I don't usually play this live.

895
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 6: We'll just come in when I've been playing too much.

896
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 6: That's a good You know, we were playing one time

897
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 6: with because when you're playing, like with Willy or whatever,

898
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 6: in the kind of music we do, you take a verse.

899
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 6: I mean a soloist takes a verse. So I was

900
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 6: playing with Wit and Marsalis and they kept playing, you know,

901
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 6: you play three or four verses, and he said, you know,

902
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 6: or I play a verse and then pass it to

903
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 6: the next guy who wasn't playing yet.

904
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 7: And when we would go do.

905
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: Another, Yeah, he wasn't keep going and keep going.

906
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, It's like I wasn't trying that way.

907
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: I know, it's a different thing. Yeah, I come from

908
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: the jazz world where I'm used to people doing that,

909
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't have enough vocabulary to keep going.

910
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 5: I like to keep it short and simple.

911
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: Was that the Yeah, yeah, that was the Ray Charles songs, right.

912
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 7: And when we would just riff or just played the solos.

913
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember. The piano player was so good. But

914
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: I was so jealous because I was like, I wanted

915
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: to play piano so bad on all those Ray Charles songs.

916
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: That was fun. There's video of that online.

917
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 7: This is one of my favorite songs.

918
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: You're so nice. I appreciate that above the cloud, I

919
00:50:51,080 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: found place acking without a trace, wondering.

920
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: I candans ways all of the blue out into space.

921
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: You hold me. I can't come down until after myself around.

922
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: The sun is fayy into I.

923
00:51:53,600 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: All of your beards and all elive is almost gone,

924
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 2: a passing, and I never know what don't mean.

925
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 13: I'll sing the song I have a time, and I'm

926
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 13: holding on.

927
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 4: To what is my.

928
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 13: But I'll kiss the.

929
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 2: Doll of a neon day and then I'll still bood.

930
00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 3: My way, I sang, so.

931
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 2: I'll have a time.

932
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 3: I'm home now.

933
00:53:54,640 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 2: To what is bad. I'll the do.

934
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 8: Of on day and then ousta.

935
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 2: Way and then.

936
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 8: Way.

937
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: That's so beautiful. You gotta come sitting with me sometimes

938
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: No way, way, no way, no way, you gotta come.

939
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 7: I told you we have to do the European tour.

940
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: We should for sure. I got a great band right now.

941
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: It would be so fun.

942
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 7: Yeah. I love that steel player Dan Dan.

943
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: I eat he's on tour with me this summer.

944
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 7: Well are you using what's the drummer's name that same blade? Oh?

945
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 7: Using Brian?

946
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

947
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 7: Oh wow, I've never played with him.

948
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: Oh he's he's amazing.

949
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I saw the podcast with him.

950
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was fun. He's an incredible singer, so

951
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: it was fun. Yeah.

952
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I definitely want to come and play. You should

953
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 6: and now we've got it on.

954
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: Tape, so well anytime. I mean, I've known you for

955
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: twenty years. Come on.

956
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 6: Well, you know, I didn't want to push myself, you know, anytime.

957
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: Anytime, we'll do this song and many others. Well, this

958
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: was so fun.

959
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 7: Yeah for me too, this is great. And it's nine

960
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 7: thirty in the morning.

961
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: It was what time, ten thirty.

962
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 6: That's pretty good for you to get up for one

963
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 6: and then to be able to sing at this time

964
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 6: of day too.

965
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: I feel like singing early is not so hard. It

966
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 1: kind of is dusty in it in the nighttime way,

967
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Should we do one song

968
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:58,439
Speaker 1: to take us out?

969
00:55:58,600 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah.

970
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 5: Playing music is so so fun.

971
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 7: It is fun, isn't it.

972
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: I printed out I brought my guitar in case you

973
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: wanted to do like so Loansome. I could cry, or

974
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: we could do that blue song.

975
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 7: Oh, come under the Robert Johnson, the Robert Johnson. Yeah,

976
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 7: let's try that.

977
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 6: I have never played it.

978
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: I've actually never played it either, but with Delaney and

979
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: Bonnie I didn't know that version, and is that it's

980
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: like it's but.

981
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 7: It's just a I listened to the Robert Johnson one too.

982
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: Oh well, I grew up on that one for sure.

983
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: But I like the fat, the groove kind of faster.

984
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 7: Like, okay, we can do whatever.

985
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, be flat, no, let's do let's switch it.

986
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 7: It really doesn't matter. I mean, that's actually a good key.

987
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 7: You know, what's a bad key for the harmonica is.

988
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 6: D because I need a G harmonica and it's really

989
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 6: low and it doesn't interesting. I mean, it's not a

990
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 6: bad key, it just doesn't it's not as fluid, it

991
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 6: doesn't cut as much. I mean, but I never get

992
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 6: to play the E flat harmonica, which is in B flat.

993
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 1: Is that what you want to do?

994
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 7: Yea's stay in that key.

995
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: We're just gonna keep this whole podcast, this whole episode

996
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: is just going to be and be flat before all right,

997
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 1: one more palette cleanser.

998
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 2: Now about.

999
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you sort of like do more of

1000
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: the rhythmic stuff and it I'll come in on it.

1001
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 5: But maybe you started I don't remember that.

1002
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1003
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: Maybe you just it's just cool if you started it.

1004
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 7: I feel like, okay, come on in my kitchen. Is

1005
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 7: that doing?

1006
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: Oh man, I love.

1007
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: Took from my best friend. Some joker gotta lucky stole

1008
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: him back again.

1009
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 2: You better come on in my.

1010
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: Kitchen because he's going.

1011
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: To be rain and outdoors. Now she's gone. Oh I

1012
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: know he won't come back.

1013
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: He took the last nickel from my nation's side.

1014
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 2: You better come on.

1015
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 8: In my kitchen because he is gone to be rain

1016
00:58:54,520 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 8: in outdoors. We're getting in trouble. Everybody throws me down.

1017
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 8: Look for my good friend. None can be found. You

1018
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 8: better come on in my kitchen because he's gone.

1019
00:59:45,000 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 2: He'll be raining now where the time's coming. It's gonna

1020
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 2: be slow.

1021
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 8: Can make a winner vas giant long.

1022
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: So you better come on in my kitchen because it's

1023
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 2: gone to be made in outdoors.

1024
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 8: You better come on.

1025
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: In my kitchen.

1026
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 8: Because he's going to be made outdoors.

1027
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 7: It's great.

1028
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 6: I love how you when you're playing, you're not playing

1029
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 6: a straight rhythm, that they're these missing beats that you

1030
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 6: feel the beat anyway.

1031
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 7: But it's just so cool.

1032
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure what to do, and then when I

1033
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: started playing, I thought, oh no, I shouldn't play at

1034
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: all because you were doing the rhythm. So then I

1035
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: started trying to do like just some weird high stuff.

1036
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 7: No. I was thinking, God, you've been practicing this forever.

1037
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: You must have just like Nope, I try to practice

1038
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: this because we talked about doing it and I realized

1039
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: it's not the kind of song to really I couldn't

1040
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: really figure out how to practice it.

1041
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 7: I like practicing like that, I mean, learn doing stuff spontaneous.

1042
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: But that's how I that's how I've always been. I'm

1043
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: much better that way, and I like that. Well, that's

1044
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: kind of like the fly by the seat of your

1045
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: pants when I sang with Willy, and you know, I

1046
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: think that's the best way.

1047
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, because I think over you know, over rehearsing and stuff.

1048
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 6: I mean, I usually my best take if I'm in

1049
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 6: the studio is the first.

1050
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: It's the first, right, Yeah, I know, me too.

1051
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 7: And I keep trying to get back to that play it.

1052
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 7: The further I get away from it.

1053
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: Well, that's why that's why like Redheaded Strangers so amazing,

1054
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: because it's it's not overthought.

1055
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,479
Speaker 7: It's or overplayed. I mean there's so much space on.

1056
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: That, so much space, and I mean the concept is thought,

1057
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: but the playing is just comes out of you, and

1058
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: that's that's the best.

1059
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 7: And you hit the stack of napkins.

1060
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: That's amazing in front of him. Yeah, I had to.

1061
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I've known this song forever, but I had

1062
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: to google Nation Sack that the lyric in this song.

1063
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: I took the last nickel from her Nation Sack. I

1064
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: had to google it. It's like an old timy thing.

1065
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: It's like a purse. It's like a little satchel that

1066
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: you put your coins and stuff in. But you women,

1067
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: I guess, used to have them around their waist under

1068
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: their skirts.

1069
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 5: Ah, this is what the Internet told me, so I

1070
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 5: could be right.

1071
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 7: Then it must be right, it must be right.

1072
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: And then and then it said that, and then prostitutes

1073
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: started using them because the jingling would attract customers. So

1074
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: I had to I had to google that word and

1075
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: then decide how I was gonna sing that line.

1076
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 7: A good name for a band Nation Sack, Yeah.

1077
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 5: I'm not so sure. Well, anyway, I love you so much.

1078
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 7: This is I love you too, and this is this

1079
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 7: has been fun.

1080
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 6: We really, I mean, I've known you for so long

1081
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 6: and we never really sat and played no, because you know,

1082
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 6: they've been trying to keep us apart.

1083
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 7: That's what it is, you know.

1084
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: Willie Heck yeah, man, Yeah, I mean I'm just you

1085
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: mean a lot to me, and musically you mean a

1086
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: lot to me. Even before I met you and being

1087
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: friends for twenty years and feeling like I'm part of

1088
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,919
Speaker 1: that were like family, you know, even though we don't

1089
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: see each other, sometimes it feels really special to me.

1090
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 6: I mean, I cannot talk to you for you and

1091
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 6: then pick up on the conversation.

1092
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: We're just talking about love and and sleep and everything,

1093
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 1: and it's I don't know, it's specially You're very special

1094
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: to me. So I love you very much. Thanks for

1095
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: being my friend.

1096
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 7: Thank you.

1097
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 6: Nick makes a pleasure and a privilege.

1098
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm just playing love.

1099
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's just sweetheart. He's the best musically and conversationally. Yeah,

1100
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 4: he's just he's family, like a warm hug.

1101
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 5: Is that weird to say?

1102
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 7: Oh that's nice.

1103
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: He's the best. Thanks Mickey for joining us, and thank

1104
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: you for joining us and listening along. Yeah, just listening

1105
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: alone with me.

1106
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 5: Don't forget to like and subscribe, li.

1107
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: And subscribe and subscribe so you don't miss an EPISO.

1108
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: If you're wondering what songs we played in this episode.

1109
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: The first song was called night Life by Willie Nelson.

1110
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: It's the song from nineteen sixty second song is Helped

1111
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: Me Make It through the Night, written by Chris Christofferson

1112
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy. The third song was Over the Rainbow

1113
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 1: and If I Only Had a Brain, both from the

1114
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty nine film The Wizard of a haz songs

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Speaker 1: were written by Harold Arland and lyrics by Ya Prberg.

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Speaker 1: The fourth song was a request of Mickey's and it

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Speaker 1: is my song called Stumble on My Way from the

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Speaker 1: Pick Me Up Off the Floor album. The fifth song

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Speaker 1: we did was the old blue song by Robert Johnson

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Speaker 1: called come On in My Kitchen from the nineteen thirties.

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Speaker 1: The session was recorded at night Bird Recording Studios in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Engineered by Colton Lakey and assisted by Louis

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Speaker 1: Sanchez Navarro, mixed by Jamie Landry, edited by Sarah Oda.

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Speaker 1: Additional engineering by Greg Tobler and Matt Marinelli. Artwork by

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Speaker 1: Eliza Frye. Photography by Shervin Linez. Produced by Norah Jones

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Speaker 1: and Sarah Oda.