WEBVTT - Beating The Book: The 83rd Masters Preview 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:12.320 Check it out. Man Now down Now Tuesday, April nine, 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:16.840 Beating the Book Podcast. It's Gill Alexander. It's time for 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:21.040 a tradition unlike any other, the Masters, specifically betting on 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:24.160 the Masters, Golf's first major. Will do it two different ways. 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:28.360 First with the man who literally wrote the book on 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:32.440 strokes gained analysis at Augusta. Joe Peter, author of the 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:37.280 twenty nineteen Masters Preview, the Joe Peter Tour Guy Masters Preview. 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.360 Really unique stuff from Joe. We'll get into that first. 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:42.199 And then if you don't like the analytics as much 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.159 as you like sort of a championship formula, much like 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:47.320 I did with the n C Double A basketball tournament. 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:51.880 Dave Tindall from Betfair and other outlets including Rotor World. 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:56.320 He's got your championship formula if you will trend analysis 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:59.720 for the Masters, and who does it reveal as the 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.640 one and only champion of the twenty nineteen Masters. Now 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.840 keep in mind last year he had Ricky Fowler. Ricky 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.039 Fowler finished in second, So no guarantees ever, but a 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:12.280 great exercise in its own right. Joe Peter, Dave Tindel, 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:23.560 The Masters on the Beating the Book Podcast enjoy now 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.520 back to a numbers game with your host Gil Alexander, 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:30.120 broadcasting live from our Van studios in Las Vegas. Don't 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.720 forget later on the show today Todd Wish neev You're like, 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.880 who's Todd Wish? Now? If you're watching the Showtime Macau 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:41.040 docuseries Action about sports betting. Uh, Todd is the gentleman 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:44.440 who sits at the South Point and bets all day long. Uh. 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.319 Todd is a gregarious guy and has great stories and 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.040 is a wonderfully smart, funny guys. So he's gonna be 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.000 in a studio with us. Uh the second hour, we'll 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.120 try to cook some stories out of him first though, 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.600 making his return to the show. U a special numbers 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:00.240 game investigation reveals once again that it is Masters week 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:05.840 and this gentleman literally wrote the book on strokes gained analysis, 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:10.000 specifically to Augusta heretofore not available. Ladies and gentlemen, it's 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.800 my friend Joe Pete. A good morning to you, Joe Gail. 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:14.800 It's a plugure to be here at the Masters. Weeke 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.320 intro is nice, but I think what we're really excited 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:20.680 about is the possible World series preview with the Minnesota 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:24.160 Twins visiting Queens, New York to take on the Mats. 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.440 This might be the most highly anticipated in the league, 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:30.760 Max since the Subway Series of the late nineties. You know, 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:32.640 you know the problem with you say that, Joe is 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.160 my initial reaction is, oh, wait, did Joe actually do 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.480 analysis on this and come up with us? And I'm 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:43.040 guessing not. Perhaps the baseball the baseball sheets are closed. Yes, 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.600 the baseball sheets are closed, Joe. So listen, You've been 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:47.959 on a couple of times. You were kind enough to 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.760 come in studio to to talk about your Masters preview. 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.160 Joe Pete has Tour Guide, a twenty nineteen Masters preview 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.400 available on Amazon and everywhere else that books are sold. 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.399 But for those who did not, h he are those 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:04.880 two previous appearances, please, could you explain first of all, 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.360 you know, your transition from baseball to golf and what 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:11.640 it is that you actually did manually. Um that just 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:15.240 it didn't exist before until you actually rolled up your 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:18.440 sleeves and did the work. Uh Gil, I will get 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:20.520 to that. I'm gonna touch on what you opened with 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.680 for thirty seconds though about my first appearance back in 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:27.480 in studio in uh January, I was on for I 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.760 think an hour. UM that served as the kickoff for 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.480 the book. It was a wonderful kickoff. So I thank 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.320 you and you are listeners because we all have the 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:40.400 same passion. Uh. And specifically there was a podcast going 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:42.600 you know for their shout out to that or a 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:46.040 call back to that. UM. This morning there is a 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:49.400 one of the more popular golf broadcast is a house 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.960 from d C, the old the Simmons Buddy who has 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:56.640 the Fairway Rolling podcast, and on it was a gentleman 0:03:56.720 --> 0:04:00.720 named Chris Vernon and Chris specifically talked about listening on 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:04.400 Visa and hearing about the book. When Chris Felika called in, 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.240 that's when he was like, well, if if this is 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.480 something Chris listens to, I'm going to pick up the book. 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:12.400 And he talked all about the book today on this 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:14.680 podcast and Bee notes to me uh and that all 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.080 goes back to the kickoff on your show, So thank 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.120 you for that. Chris is a friend of show who's 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:22.320 been on the show several times. Great great basketball guy 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.839 from Memphis. But that's great that he that he uh 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:30.920 found interest in them. That's awesome. Yes. So just this background, right, 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:34.599 I transitioned from baseball to golf because I saw what 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.640 I thought was a green field of opportunity to write 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.640 about golf data and maybe even make some discoveries. It 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.800 kind of reminded me of, Hey, this is what it is, 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:45.680 what it might have been like to be a baseball 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.039 writer in the mid nineties at the early part of 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:52.160 the UH saber metric revolution. So that drew me to it. 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:55.280 And so the idea for the book was to introduce 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:59.520 UH sports fans and maybe golf fans who weren't into 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:03.680 the stro gained uh, you know, movement to it, and 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.800 to try to tell, you know, if I have a skill, 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:08.960 it's not you know, it wasn't inventing this stuff, but 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.520 hopefully it's telling the stories maybe that make it digestible 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:17.680 and relatable to UH people who aren't you know, computer scientists. Uh. 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.359 So that's how it got started. And in terms of 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:23.799 as I was digging into the world of golf data, 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.520 um I, one of these shortcomings has always been that 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.040 none of the majors has ever had short strokes gained 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:34.960 data because the PGA Tour doesn't run those events. UM, 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:36.760 you know, sort of going back to the advent of 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.680 strokes gained and that still hasn't changed in terms of 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.200 the Masters. It has changed at the PGA Championship, but 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.480 not the Masters. And while I was researching, I stumbled 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.599 onto a pristine data set that nobody had ever touched 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:54.599 on that was sort of embedded in the Master's website 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:59.320 for the event. I then, um, as we talked about before, 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:03.039 I handed he at allOur hundred plus strokes into a 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:07.960 spreadsheet that was taken by the eight seven competitors and 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:12.480 use that database to then apply the strokes gain framework 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:14.560 and come up with some insights on the Masters that 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.839 have never been available before. It seems they'd be very 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:22.200 well received. H It's fun um and it hopefully it'll 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:25.560 give some people some insight to this year's event. Wait 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.200 will that's for sure. I like the word I use 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:30.760 I inhaled your book. I really did like it was 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.200 just phenomenal. I don't want you to give away all 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.080 the funding because I want people to go out obviously 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.040 and then get your book. But if you could, because 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.280 I know you come up with, uh, there's a list 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.359 of about ten golfers in there. I think that you 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:44.280 uh that you highlight in the end. Why don't why 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.440 don't we name a few off the bottom end of 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:49.880 that ten if we could sure sure, and and we'll look, 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.279 you know, let's I'll even start with one that's uh 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.800 that I have in the top four. I had Justin 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.200 Rose at number four, and I'd certainly stick with that. 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.560 And but what I will say is because all of 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:04.000 us care about markets and value in pricing, and I 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:08.560 firmly believe that Justin Rose and not the trio of 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:12.240 golfers that he makes up in terms of the betting favorites, 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.920 I firmly believe Justin Rose should be the betting favorite 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.200 for this tournament, not Roy McElroy or not Dustin Johnson. 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:22.200 So I will see value on Justin Rose in head 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:25.680 to head matchups where he is a plus money against 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:27.560 both of those golfers. And in fact that that was 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:29.920 one of the first things I jumped on yesterday when 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.640 I was able to uh. And really the sort of 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.240 history there is that not that those all three of 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:39.160 them are exceptional golfers. They are the top tier of 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.960 the p g A Tour. But Justin Rose has by 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.800 far the best track record at Augusta. And as I 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:49.000 do point out the book, um, of course, history matters 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.080 more to Augusta by far in terms of correlation from 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.880 year to year than any other stop on the PGA tour. 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:59.200 So when I put those you know, current form plus 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:04.440 more blast year form plus course history, it makes Justin 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:08.520 Rose to me, uh, the favorite over over those other two, 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:12.240 over Rory and DJ. So that that's sort of a touch. 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.840 Why don't you throw out another name and I'll i'll, 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:16.920 I'll give some thoughts. Okay, let me let me give 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.600 you a name that's not necessarily on your list. I 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.040 can't remember if he was in your top ten, but 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:22.680 he's something I mentioned. I don't know if I said 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:24.280 it on this show yesterday and behind the book with 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:25.960 j Rude, I can't remember what show I said it on. 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.160 But when I've made my bets and they are informed 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.960 by your book, believe me, and Justin Rose is one 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.920 of them. But I have this thing in my head 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:36.640 where I'm like, you know who I didn't bet on. 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.440 I didn't bet on Bubba Watson. And one of the 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:43.079 things that I remember, So it's funny what what details 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.040 you remember from a book. But one of the things 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:46.800 that I correct me if I'm wrong here is that 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:50.800 when you looked at Bubba Watson's eighteen Masters, he was 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.000 number three in driving distance and I want to say 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:58.320 number two in driving accuracy. Joe, how does he lose 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:02.120 that tournament? Yeah, he's got I think the way I 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.280 summed it all up in a neat sentence for people 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.160 who don't like numbers, is he drove the ball as 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:11.040 accurately as Barnard, longer and as far as Rory McIlroy. 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:15.679 And that is a deadly combination for a golf course, 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:19.040 and especially Augusta, when you know closer to the whole, 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.640 you know is so important based on what iron you 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:25.440 have in your hand, because those greens have small target areas. Uh. 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.640 And yes he squandered that. In fact, as I point 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:29.960 out in the book, his strokes gained off the tea 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:34.040 was nearly nine uh nine strokes, which is that that 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.760 is standard deviations better uh than than the rest of 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:41.400 the field. You just don't usually see that sort of 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:46.160 spread on that skill um on a PGA Tour events, 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.840 So he has got to Yeah, he was three strokes 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:52.000 better than John Rum and Rory McIlroy. Uh in terms 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.480 of strokes gained off the tea. That's a huge advantage 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.080 that I would say he squandered last year. Uh, and 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:01.720 I think it it bodes poorly for the future because 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:06.840 he cannot do that well right here. It's just impossible. So, 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.439 you know, if he's shown a weakness with with his approach, 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:14.120 shot and putting at at the Masters um in the 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.920 last you know, especially last year. In terms of his 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:21.400 current form um, I think he's overvalued. He really is 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.200 hit or miss at at Augusta. He's really had three 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.240 only three good tournaments last year and then the two 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:28.640 he won, and then with a lot of stinkers in there, 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.360 and that is not generally the profile of some of 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:35.880 the true Masters of Augusta. They do well year after 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:39.680 year after year, and they're very consistent. Talking to Joe Peter, 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:43.079 the author of the nineteen Masters Preview, Joe PETA's Tour 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.280 Guide presents a twenty nineteen Masters Preview. We have a 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.880 shot of the cover there for people who might want 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.720 to just look and find it visually, Jeff, a little 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:52.760 shot of the there. It is right there. Joe Peters 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.960 Tour Guide Presents Masters Preview includes it never before seen 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:00.160 Augusta National Strokes Game Report. Let me ask about on 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:04.440 rum Joe, because John is a guy who I sort of, uh, 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.240 just a little dirty analogy. Used to call the the 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.920 Jacksonville Jaguars of sports bettors. In other words, until the 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:16.400 Jaguars had their really good season in twenty eighteen eighteen, 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.560 that is the year before last, they were always the 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:23.360 professional betterters team of choice during the off season, like 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.199 this is the year, this is the year where the 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.240 Jaguars are going to do something, and it just never happened, 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.800 right Like, year after year after year, it never happened. 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.280 John Rum feels that way when it comes to Major's. 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:37.320 How do you feel about him entering the twenty nineteen Masters, 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:41.360 because he's he's had some indication that success could be 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:44.720 headed his way, that's for sure. Yeah, he's he's well 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.240 suited for this course. He's only played it twice, he's 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.640 made the cut both times, and last year he played 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.559 I think it was he was finished fourth alone. Uh, 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:56.240 he played very well. And when you look at how 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:58.760 he did it, it wasn't with a hot putter that 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:02.480 you think might uh you know, we would have more 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:06.000 variability to it. It was more if he does have 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:09.920 a hot putter, this is his tournament to win. So 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.440 I think he definitely fits that you have to sort 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:17.040 of love the value um range that he's in. You 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.400 know that the uh, you know, not being in the 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.079 top top tier guys. UM, he certainly does get a 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:26.199 lot of chatter and his I think whether he has 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:31.000 the um, you know, sort of the emotional stability to 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.280 bake his way around that, you know, what can be 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.400 a frustrating course might be you know, I don't have 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.800 to measure that, so I just go by the numbers 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:40.480 and I say, yeah, this guy is a guy I 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.520 expect to be in the top five this year. M Okay, 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.240 I'm gonna purposely leave out one of your your number 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.880 one here on this and let people find that discover 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:52.800 that in your book. Uh. Tiger Woods obviously featured prominently 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:56.760 in your twenty nineteen Masters preview. You tell an amazing 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:00.800 story about Tiger and probably the how can I put this, 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.640 the the stat that no one was aware of at 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.880 the time you do this great research. UM. Portion of 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:10.679 the book is is dedicated to this amazing streak that 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:14.280 Tiger had back in the day. UM. We can describe that. 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:18.840 But as as you point out, Tigers, the assessment of 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:21.160 Tiger is different from the assessment of anybody else. In 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.520 other words, when you say, listen, know what at Tiger's 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:27.200 age really ever wins the Masters typically, But Tiger is 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.960 not your average golfer, So how do you and certainly 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:33.560 has not had your average career. So you make the 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.800 case that as great as we thought he was, he's 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:40.000 even better by the numbers. How seriously do you take 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:44.600 Tiger here? Very very do not sleep on Tiger this year? 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.120 Uh And and there's a couple of reasons for that. Gil. 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:51.480 When I wrote the book, UM, I had a something 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:55.720 that I called par uh performance verse average per round 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.360 and it's it's supposed to be a The idea was 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.880 it that that it would be a one stat you know, 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:05.840 kind of fits all way to rank golfers. And because 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:09.520 it's it's it's a scale versus the average PGA Tour 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.720 pro And Tiger was right there in the right outside 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:17.840 the top ten as of eighteen. But he's actually played 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.600 better in the first three months this year than the 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:24.600 rounds that have dropped off because he didn't play too 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.960 many rents. You know, he had he played less rounds 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.560 than than all those top guys last year. And it 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.560 doesn't feel like it the first three months of the 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:36.480 year because he has not. You know, he hasn't been 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.840 in the featured groups on Sunday, but he has very steadily. Remember, 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.120 you know, a good analytics model will look at every 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.480 stroke played right and and we'll judge them all equally, 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.640 not just the ones that were on TV or there. 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.720 You know, it's it's better to finish twelve two tournaments 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.400 in a row than to finish fourth and a missed cut, right, 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.480 because you're gonna look at all the rounds together, and 0:14:56.560 --> 0:15:00.960 Tiger is playing very well. His current form is is fine. 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.640 I'm sure you know we can look at three putting. 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.160 If he's gonna three putt, that's gonna be a problem. Um. 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.480 But in terms of just his whole body of work, 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:12.400 the form is fine. His course history at Augusta is unparalleled. 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:16.080 And I and as far as you know someone his 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:19.040 age not winning before or or you know they they 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:22.240 tend to drop off at this age. Oh, he's dropped off. 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.120 But he's exactly if you kind of look at his 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:28.600 aging curb, he's exactly where you'd expect the forty three 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:32.240 year old golfer to be, who was three strokes plus 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.080 better than everybody else on tour at his peak age 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.440 nine now he's about a stroke and three quarter better. Um, 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.800 which is you know, that's not DJ, that's not Rory, 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.760 and that's not Justin. But it's right there in the 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:49.640 next year. Uh So, yeah, because of his course history. 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:53.440 Absolutely don't sleep on Tiger, you know, is the value 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:56.920 ever there in his futures almost positively? Not because of 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:01.160 the premium. But I am going to be sappointed if 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.920 Tiger is not a part of the Sunday conversation. Okay, Joe, 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.000 we leave you with this little rapid fire, give me, 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.920 give me ten seconds, the little little thumbnail on each 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:13.520 of these names, brooks kepco Oh, he's not being talked 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.800 about enough. I'm kind of surprised. I'm a little worried 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:19.480 about his mental state if he's going on a diet 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.840 for a swimsuit photo shoot, um and losing you know, 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:27.720 twenty pounds. But absolutely that is a guy that is 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:31.560 not being talked about enough. Meziama, Yeah, say, you know, 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.280 same sort of thing there. If there's any sex thing 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:37.720 is value. I think he falls right into the Paul Casey, Decki, 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:41.520 Manto Yama, Jason Day circle of guys that are sort 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:45.040 of my favorite values in the futures market. M Okay 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.440 and uh and finally let me think who who else 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:50.120 can we go to? You? What what name would you 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:52.920 like to bring up? Uh? You know, everybody has a 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.200 deep value and there and I would be fading guys 0:16:56.280 --> 0:17:01.280 like Molinari and Woodland because of of course history. Uh. 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.320 The name that is most interesting to me, that is 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:05.960 who I don't think has a chance to win, because 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:07.920 I think we do our winner is going to come 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:11.320 from the the the you know, what's say the forty 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.480 year underguys, forty two one or under guys. But Patrick 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:18.679 Cantley looks a lot to me like Tommy Fleetwood and 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.760 Tony fenwe did last year, guys that would never on 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.080 TV for the six months prior. But you look at 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:26.000 the body of work, you're like, holy cow, this is 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:29.639 the top twelve, top fifteen guy who's rising. And we 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:32.960 know what Fleetwood and Finale did in all the major's 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:36.120 last year in terms of top tenning and constantly being 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.040 on the board. I think Patrick Cantley is your guy 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.840 to you know this year that maybe you know, a 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.159 lot of people probably haven't seen him take a stroke 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.120 because like I said, he doesn't play on the weekends 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:49.159 on TV. But that's a name I think that that 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.360 we'll be talking about over the course of the year. 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.320 All right, Felika has got to take it on, can't land. 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:56.000 I know that for sure? From yesterday. Joe peta author 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.000 of a nine Masters preview. You can follow him on 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:01.399 Twitter at Magic rat s F Joe, good luck. I 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:03.320 know you're staying at home. You're soaking at all in 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:06.280 it before the tournament started, not at work this week, 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:10.639 big week for you. 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We can't wait to be uh to uh 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:36.879 have him in studio because when you're around Todd, you 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:39.560 can't help but smile. Great guy. So he's coming up. 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:41.960 Last thing about the NBA, which I didn't get in 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:45.560 the last segment, I heard on a national show yesterday, 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:48.680 national betting show there on on the Old TV yesterday 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:53.040 that the Toronto game didn't mean anything tonight. That is incorrect. 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.240 The Raptors do have something to play for tonight. Raptors 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.159 are seven point favorites at Minnesota. Uh. The comment was 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:00.919 made that the Raptors nothing to play for because they 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:03.879 can't catch Milwalkee. But if the Raptors win in a 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:07.919 potential NBA Finals against the Warriors, they would have the 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:10.800 home court advantage. So the Raptors do have something to 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:12.959 play for tonight at Minnesota, So don't make that mistake 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:17.160 in your handicapping tonight. Before we get to Todd Wishnev though, 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:19.879 let us continue with our master's coverage. We love having 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:22.320 this gentleman on UM and we've been blessed to have 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:24.239 him on the podcast in year's pass also on this 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:27.600 show from does work with Betfair, with Rhoda World. He's 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:30.120 all over the place from the UK. We have video 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:33.920 here audio on him. Audio, But Dave Tindall, good, good afternoon, 0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:36.960 I should say to you, Dave, Yeah, afternoon here in 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:39.280 the UK. Hi girl, how are you. I'm doing very well, David. 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:41.680 I don't know if I have ever thanked you on air, 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:43.960 and this is sort of harkening back to a horrible experience, 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:46.560