1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The Smooth Operator addition is Dave 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: Lapham joins me to discuss the selection of Joe Burrow 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: number one overall in the NFL Draft, and look ahead 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: to Round two and the players that are still available 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: for Cincinnati. Plus my conversation with boomerasiasin as the last 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: quarterback to lead the Bengals to the super Bowl, discusses 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: the QB that we all hope will be the next 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: quarterback to lead the Bengals to the super Bowl. The 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Prime Sport, the official fan, 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: travel and hospitality partner of the Cincinnati Bengals. And here's 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: a quick reminder that you can have the latest edition 13 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: of this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: computer by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's the 15 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: greatest thing since Greater's Chunky Chunky Hippo ice Cream. The 16 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: first round of the draft lasted for four hours and 17 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: at some point I needed a snack. Well, this week 18 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: I sampled Greater's Chunky Chunky Hippo ice cream for the 19 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: first time and It's unbelievable roasted peanuts and milk chocolate 20 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,919 Speaker 1: caramel truffles combined in sweet and creamy toffee ice cream. 21 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: I think we have about a half a pint left 22 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: and I have strategically stashed it in the back of 23 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: the freezer. I'm looking forward to indulging again during the 24 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: second night of the draft. Now time for my conversation 25 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: with Dave Lapham, as he joined me moments after round 26 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: one ended. Lap We had the opportunity to take part 27 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: in a virtual news conference with Joe Burrow a little 28 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: while after he was drafted number one overall by Cincinnati, 29 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: and I was reminded of his meeting with the Bengals 30 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: at the scouting combine when one person in the room 31 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: said it was the best one of those reviews they 32 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: had ever taken part with in I felt the same 33 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: way watching his news conference with Cincinnati area reporters. You 34 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: talk about impressive. He answered every question perfectly. He did, 35 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I went to the combine for 36 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: his press conference there same thing. I mean he I 37 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: asked him, what what do you think your strength is? 38 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: And he sat leadership, rallying people. He has innate people skills. 39 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: You know. I mean, he's just one of those guys 40 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: that gets it. He just people. People are gonna gravitate 41 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: toward him, They're gonna believe in him. Is he's special. 42 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: He is extremely special. And uh seen him twice now 43 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: and in both times not just a home run, a 44 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: grand salami. I mean, he just he's something else. And 45 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: by the time he talked to Cincinnati area reporters, he 46 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: had probably done a million interviews. He was on a 47 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: national report. I'm sure he did a news conference with 48 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 1: the big wig, so to speak. So by the time 49 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: he got around to all of us, he had to 50 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: be a little bit mentally fried. And yet he turned 51 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: it on, recognizing that this was going to be the 52 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: first impression that he made with people who'll be dealing 53 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: with on a regular basis, his first impression with many 54 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: Cincinnati fans, and those are the kinds of things you 55 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: have to do if you are in that spot. There's 56 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean, I think you know, he's he 57 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: grew up around the game, and you know, I'm sure 58 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: he's heard his dad talk about you know, guys have 59 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: handled themselves well and guys that didn't, and lessons to 60 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: be learned from that. And and he I just think 61 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: that his personality is that though I don't think he 62 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: never has to put on any time of false air 63 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: or anything else. All he has to be is Joe Burrow. 64 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: And I mean it's it's just like I said before, 65 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: his teammates at Ohio State. I think the world of 66 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: his teammates in high school. Think the world of them. 67 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: You know, when when college kids travel to the national 68 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: championship game in their own time to watch your old 69 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: teammate win a national championship. That speaks volumes and uh, 70 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: you know he impacts people. Uh and and I think 71 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: you know he's gonna be when when you look at it, Dan, 72 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: he's twenty three years old. He's not He's not like 73 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: a twenty year old kid, you know, coming into the 74 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: National Football League. It's not like a twenty year old 75 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: kid was going to a huddle with a bunch of 76 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: thirty year old guys. He's twenty three years old, and 77 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: the team, all these guys they signed in free agency, 78 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: you know, are into just finishing their first contracts. So 79 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: you know a lot of them are in their you know, 80 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: mid to late twenties themselves. I mean, it's not like 81 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: he's gonna you know, he's gonna be dealing with a 82 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: bunch of you know, crusty, old veteran guys. Now he 83 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: still has to prove himself. I mean, he's he's the 84 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: new guy, he's the young buck. But you know, I 85 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: don't I don't think he's gonna have any difficulty whatsoever 86 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: um being the leader of the pack. I think that's 87 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: going to come very naturally and very easily to him. 88 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: And I think he's going to do a hell of 89 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: a job. He was so good. He even nailed the 90 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: question about Cincinnati style chili, which he famously blasted in 91 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: an interview a year or two ago whenever that was, 92 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: And when asked about it again today, he said, you 93 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: know what, I have to give it another try. Maybe 94 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: my taste buds have changed. That is a great answer 95 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: for that question. It is. And you know, and I 96 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: asked him about Andy Dalton, you know, and and I 97 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: thought he handled that perfectly, because that's that's going to 98 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: be an awkward situation for both really, but they're both 99 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: cut from the same cloth in terms of the type 100 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: of human being they are, so I don't anticipate, you know, 101 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: any issue there. In fact, you know, Andy and Joe 102 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: Burrow have to interact whatsoever. And I think he handled 103 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: that well. He said, you know, I have no trouble 104 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: with Andy Dalton in the quarterback room with you know, 105 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: having a veteran guy to lean on, or I have 106 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: no problem at all if that's not the case, and 107 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: it's a bunch of young guys in the quarterback room, 108 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: and I'll handle that as well. And I think that's 109 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: that's the thing that you know people are talking about. 110 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: Is it swagger? Is it earned confidence? Like you know, 111 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 1: like Zach was categorizing it. He does have one needed 112 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: He definitely has an edge, But bottom line is he 113 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: has supreme, I mean uber supreme people skills. He really 114 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: does at a very young age. It's it's incredible to watch. 115 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: So before we had the opportunity to talk to Joe Burrow, 116 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: we did talk to Zach Taylor and also offensive coordinator 117 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: Brian Callahan. What stood out from their media sessions with 118 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:44,239 Speaker 1: Cincinnati reporters. His effectiveness, you know, under pressure is something 119 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: that one pressure was something that the coaching staff took 120 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: note of. I think there is no no question about that. 121 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: I do think they feel they're going to be able 122 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: to get him up to speed quickly. There's a lot 123 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: of carry over with concepts offensive concepts that Joe Brady 124 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: had installed down there at LA. I mean, like we 125 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: talked about earlier in the week, Dan, you know, this 126 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: is a pro style offense. This but I liked it. 127 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: I liked the term that I heard here um during 128 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: the draft coverage spread and shred Joe Burrow and Joe 129 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: Brady went down to LSU and said, we're gonna put 130 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: five receivers out. There's gonna be five lineman blocking and 131 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, you're gonna read it and get the ball 132 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: out of your hand. You're gonna, you know, cite adjust 133 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: the things you need to cite adjust to. You're gonna 134 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: process the information quickly. And he spread those defenses out 135 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: and uh and made them declare some things and shredded them. 136 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: There's no question about it. And he went from his 137 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: junior year they did that like thirty two percent of 138 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: the time. His senior year they did at eighty seven 139 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: percent of the time. And that was the key that 140 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,239 Speaker 1: unlucked Joe Burrow. So there's no question. I think Zach feels, 141 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, pretty good about that. That's what he wants 142 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: to try to do. That's what that's you know, the 143 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: passing game like that with the one back set and 144 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: spreading the field with either tight ends or you know 145 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: multiple a tight end or just all receivers, multiple receivers 146 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: or even you know, going totally empty with the back 147 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: out of the backfield. Uh, you know, in the slot 148 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: or something as well. I mean, he gives him a 149 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: lot of diversity, a lot of ways to attack in 150 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: the passing game. And Joe Burrow can read it out. 151 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: I mean he's uh, he can, he can diagnose. I 152 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: mean he's wired right. That's what Brian Callahan's I thought 153 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: quote quote was interesting, wired right to diagnose the game. Uh, 154 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's always prepared. And you know I've 155 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: asked him about Okay, there's preparation and then there's you know, uh, 156 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: intelligent preparation and uh and basically efficient preparation. You know 157 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: you can look at tape. And his answer was great 158 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: right up when you asked that. Yeah, he really got 159 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: excited answer that Joe Burrow did. Yeah he did. You know, 160 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: he said, you're right, he said, makes you can watch 161 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: tape for five hours or what you learn, but if 162 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: you do, if you have a system. If you have 163 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: a U you know, a way you going to go 164 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: about breaking down tape and in a process that you're 165 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: going to go through. And he found a process when 166 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: he was at LSU on a daily basis that he 167 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: believes in. And that was something else that that Zach 168 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: talked about as well when they talked to him. You know, 169 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: how did you go about getting ready for football games 170 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: at LSU? And you know went through all of that 171 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: was Zach. He didn't really describe it all with us, 172 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: but he talked about that he had that process, and 173 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: Zach I think obviously signed off on that mentally and said, 174 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: we were expect you to do the same type of 175 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: thing here in Cincinnati. I mean, I think he's a 176 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: competitive learner. You know, he's he's a cutthroat competitor. He's 177 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: a competitive learner. He's a competitive problem solver when things 178 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: break down on the field. I mean, he's he's going 179 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: to be a lot of fun. I think for the coaches, 180 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be like I remember talking to Tom Moore 181 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: who's now with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. You know he's 182 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: down there working with Tom Brady, but he was he 183 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: was in Indianapolis with Peyton Manning and I up to 184 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: know Tom Moore and his coaching in Pittsburgh, and Tom 185 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: Moore said that Peyton Manning made him a better coach. 186 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: He said, Peyton Manning knew everything inside out and if 187 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't on my best, if I wasn't on my toes, 188 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: he said, you know, Peyton was the smartest kid in 189 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: the class, and he'd embarrassed me. So I think I 190 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: think Joe Burrow is gonna he's gonna lift the whole boat. 191 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: I think that's the kind of guy he's going to be. 192 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be like Peyton man Tom Brady 193 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: is the same way. You know coaches talk about Tom Brady. 194 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: You're going to a meeting with Tom Brady, man, he's 195 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: gonna have all your eyes, daughter, and all your tea's 196 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: crossed because he'll embarrass you. You know, he'll find something 197 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: that if you if you were lax in an area 198 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: that Tom Brady won't because takes pointed out. And Joe 199 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: Burrow's got that kind of football IQ as well, and 200 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: I think that just makes everybody better. I think it's 201 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: going to be an interesting dynamic to uh, you know, 202 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: to witness with his development here in Cincinnati. You mentioned 203 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: the LSU spread and shred offense, and early in the 204 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: draft process, a lot of people suggested, well made. He 205 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: is the product of Joe Brady's creativity and just about 206 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: anybody could have put up big numbers in that offense. 207 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: Maybe people looked at this backward the whole time. Maybe 208 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: his junior year the offense was so lame that no 209 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: quarterback was going to put up huge numbers. Yeah, I 210 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: think I think that he was. He was in part 211 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: of the transition of I mean, the LSU offense under 212 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: Less Miles, Our kid wasn't the work for it. Prehistoric 213 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: might have been a better description. I mean it was. 214 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: It was. He just thought, you know, Less, I'm going 215 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: to line up with bigger, better people than you. I'm 216 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: not going to try to fool anybody. I'm not gonna 217 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: make it very uh you know, very sexy. I'm just 218 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: gonna try to pound you with the Leonard Fournettes of 219 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: the world or whatever. And Alabam would always smoke him, 220 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, and and uh that coach I was like, 221 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna we're gonna change that. Get to 222 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: go get Joe Brady from the New Orleans Saints, incorporate 223 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: some of the NFL style of offense, and he's got 224 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: a very intelligent quarterback that picked it all up. And 225 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: he was surrounded by good talent, obviously, but he was interesting. 226 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: When I asked, Joe, you know, when did you realize 227 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: that you guys might have a special season like he had? 228 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: His answer was interesting. Walking off the field after his 229 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: junior year, walking off the field in the bowl game, 230 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: he said, you know, he felt like they're on their way. 231 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: A lot of guys were returning. He knew how hard 232 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: they were going to work, but you know, he didn't 233 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: he didn't realize that the crude gras was going to 234 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: be Joe Brady and that was you know, that was repellent. 235 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: They needed to take him right to the top. One 236 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: more thought on Joe Burrow before he moved on to 237 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: round two. One other thing that Brian Callahan, the offensive 238 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: coordinator coordinator, said that really caught my ear was that 239 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: he's the most accurate college quarterback he has ever studied. 240 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: The only other person that he mentioned in the same 241 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: breath was Andrew Luck. Not a bad comp no question, 242 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: no question about it. And you know, when you look 243 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: at it Um. It's interesting. You did a great interview 244 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: with Boomers Shias and in Boomers Shias and said that, 245 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, there's some similarities with what you went on 246 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow. And when we at Maryland, you know, 247 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: we were running a you know, a veer offense at 248 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: Maryland and it really didn't accentuate my talents. And uh, 249 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: coach Ross comes in and puts in a pro style 250 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: offense and now, I, you know, show the NFL what 251 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: kind of physical abilities I have. Well, same type of 252 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: thing with Joe Burrow, and Joe Brady comes in and boom, 253 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: you know there's and the other great quarterback in Bengalslore 254 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: the two League MVPs Kenny Anderson. The similarities there. Kenny 255 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: Anderson went to Augustana on a basketball scholarship. Kenny Anderson 256 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: and Danish were high school teammates in basketball. Kenny was 257 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: one all of a guard in basketball and he, you know, 258 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: the basketball coach basically said, uh, you know, yeah, you 259 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: can go ahead and try out for football. The football 260 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: coach that you know, we need you here. We heard 261 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: you play quarterback. But his sport was in Joe Burrow 262 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: was All State player of the year in basketball and 263 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: football in high school. And you know he hits this 264 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: in the three point contest during the Peach Bowl against Oklahoma. 265 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: His team's getting smoked. He goes six P six from 266 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: three point land when he shoots to win the thing. 267 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: You know, there's that competitor streak once again in him. 268 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: But Kenny Anderson was an accurate shooter in basketball, accurate passer. 269 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, see the court in basketball, see 270 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: the field in football. I mean, he's got a lot 271 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: of analogies to two of the greatest quarterbacks that had 272 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: tremendous careers for the Cincinnati Bengals with league MVPs is 273 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow can come close. That would be great. All right, 274 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: Time to move on to Round two. Our dream linebackers 275 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: are not there. Kenneth Murray went twenty third to the Chargers, 276 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: Patrick Queen went twenty eighth to the Ravens, and the 277 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: guy that you had predicted on yesterday's podcast as a 278 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: possibility to the Bengals for the third third overall pick 279 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: actually went in Round one. Jordan Brooks twenty seventh overall 280 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: to Seattle. So the linebackers at the top of the 281 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: wish list are not there, Zack Bond is along with 282 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: some great players at other positions. Yeah, Zach Bond is there. 283 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: But you know, I think thirty three might be a 284 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: little rich. But the way the run was made, I mean, 285 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: the three picks in a row, Jordan Brooks goes to Seattle, 286 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: Patrick Queen goes to Baltimore, and Isaiah Wilson goes to Tennessee. 287 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, all right, well, you know, the run 288 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: on offensive tackles, that was pretty extraordinary. Six offensive tackles 289 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: go in the first round, as many offensive tackles as 290 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: wide receivers. You know, wide receivers supposed to be the deepest, 291 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: one of the deepest positions. Well, six tackles go in 292 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: the first round. What's that tell you? Four quarterbacks go? 293 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: You know, love does go. The Green Bay Packers trade 294 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: to get Love, so that with quarterback went and uh, 295 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: but you know, six receivers and six offensive went only 296 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: one running back the last pick of the U of 297 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: the draft the first round. But yeah, I mean, man, 298 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: the work the runs came at different times, but the 299 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: linebacker position got get hit late on a run. And uh, 300 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, with with Wilson gone, it's 301 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: like all right, who who's loves well? I got Josh 302 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: Jones is there? The only the only knock I have 303 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: on him? In my opinion, he's got short arms, you know, 304 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: for a guy as big and tall as he is, 305 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: he's kind of a little t Rex action. But um, 306 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: you know you look at uh Gross Matos, the edge 307 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: guy from Penn States. There a lot of people had 308 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: him in the first round. Uh Eponenza from Iowa. Uh 309 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: is there Jalen Johnson, the cornerback you talked about Dan 310 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: Jeff Glad he went late. But Chanal Mims Higgins. I mean, 311 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of good football players there. But 312 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: I think with all of these guys that are there 313 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: at thirty three, I you know, I say move back. 314 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: I mean, if you have some of these guys, if 315 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: they're on the Bengals list, if you've got a couple, 316 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of defensive lineman, an offensive lineman 317 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: in three receivers, you know, you feel like there's five 318 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: or six guys that are in the same type of category. 319 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: You have them all kind of bunched up on your board. 320 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: Move back if somebody, if somebody really needs to address 321 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: the position group more than you do particularly like at 322 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: the wide receiver position or whatever whatever your call is, 323 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: and they're going to give you some value and you 324 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: can only go back four picks. You have six or 325 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: five or six guys in your board that you feel 326 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: comfortable with. Make that trade, do that deal. But you 327 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: know where's the partner because you know the quarterback did 328 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: go Love did go, you know, in the twenties to 329 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packs the twenty sixth overall pick. So 330 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: who is the person that is when everybody resets their awards, 331 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: like the Bengals are doing right now and trying to 332 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: decide what they're gonna do. They're gonna keep that pick 333 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: at thirty three or are they're gonna try to trade back? 334 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: And you know what kind of phone calls will they 335 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: be getting, if any. So it's going to be interesting 336 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: to see. So you ran off a bunch of names, 337 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: and I wrote down many of the same ones as 338 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: the highest rated players still available. I wrote down four 339 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: wide receivers t Higgins from Clemson, Denzel Mims from Baylor 340 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: who ran a four three eight at six three two 341 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: hundred and five pounds, Laviska Tionalt from Colorado, and Michael 342 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: Pittman from USC A couple of offensive linemans. You mentioned 343 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: Josh Jones six six out of Houston. There's also Ezra 344 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: Cleveland six six out of Boise State. Defensive ends Yetur 345 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: Gross Mattos from Penn State had nine and a half 346 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: sacks last year. Aj Epenessa from Iowa eleven and a 347 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: half sacks last year, ten and a half the year before, 348 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: but he ran a five point oh four at the combine. 349 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: That's kind of the knock on him. Zach Bonn outside linebackers, 350 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: slash edge rusher from Wisconsin. The cornerbacks include Jalen Johnson 351 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: from Utah and trey Von Diggs from Alabama, Stefan's younger brother. 352 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: And then you've got a defensive tackle who's frequently been 353 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: listed as a first round talent, Ross Blacklock from TCU 354 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: and Gallimore also from Oklahoma. I think, I think those 355 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: two defensive tackles have some value, you know, in the 356 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: in the early second round. So yeah, there's there's there's 357 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, more than a handful of guys, and how 358 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: many of them, how far down the board did the 359 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: Bengals have some of these guys or did they have 360 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: some of them at the end of the first round, 361 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: because you know, let's face it, there's always surprise picks 362 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: in the first round, and this draft no exception. I mean, 363 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: I think people would would be surprised at this cornerback 364 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: from Auburn. Uh, it's been no Henny or whatever he went. 365 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: I mean that one I didn't I didn't have him 366 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 1: necessarily rated. Uh you know rated at that point. I 367 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: was surprised that Thomas went as early as he did. 368 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised he was the first round guy go 369 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: go number four in the draft to the New York Giants. 370 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: It's like, woof man, I you know, I think he's 371 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: a solid player, but um, you know, there's there's always 372 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: there's always a couple of a couple of draft picks 373 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: and and and done in different orders than people had. 374 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, our net from from Ohio state. 375 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: For him to go as high as he did to 376 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 1: the Raiders was you know, was was pretty extraordinary. Rager 377 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: going to the Philadelphia Eagles, you know, I think probably 378 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: surprised some people. He you know, he goes ahead of Jefferson, um, 379 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: and you know, Murray sliding as far back as he slived, 380 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, so there's always everybody always has different different 381 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: values on players. But you know, there there is I mean, 382 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: there's there's edge people, there's defensive tackles. The offensive tackle 383 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: position has picked over pretty well the best interior guy, 384 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: Louise went Um. You know, it's it's what do you 385 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: What do you think? I mean, I don't think you 386 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: go on a panic mode and say, all right, well 387 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: we're going to take somebody. We have rated more in 388 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: the late two early three, and honestly that's where I 389 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: have Bond. But when the run happens, you know, maybe 390 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: you say Jeans. You know, maybe we do take Bond 391 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: at thirty three. I think you can trade back and 392 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: still get Bond as well as trading back and still 393 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: get you know, Jones and a lot of these a 394 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: lot of these other guys. But you never know. But 395 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: if somebody says, all right, well I want to trade 396 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: up because I really have him evaluated. And I don't 397 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: know how the Bengals have evaluated how you know, on 398 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: their board. But if a team calls us and they're like, 399 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: we have to have Boom, whichever one of these players 400 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: we've talked about, it is you trade back and hopefully 401 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: they're not back so far. You certainly don't trade back 402 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: to the point where any of the five six seventy 403 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: eight people you're talking about, you don't trade out of 404 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: the four. You don't trade out in the thirties. You know, 405 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: once you get into the forties, it's a different ballgame. 406 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: You still stand in the thirties and picked up extra 407 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: draft picks. So I did a deep dive into the 408 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: point value chart today for if they trade back in 409 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: the second round, if they move back six picks, you're 410 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: looking at a fourth rounder, So a second rounder and 411 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: a fourth rounder. If the team has that combination, that's 412 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: trying to trade with you. Right, if you go back 413 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: like seven to thirteen, you can get into the bottom 414 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: of the third round with the extra pick. Then fourteen 415 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: to twenty, low twenties, you can get into the middle 416 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: of the third round. And then if the pick is 417 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: at the end of the second round that you're getting, 418 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: you could get a high third round pick to pair 419 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: with it. That's strictly based on the points chart, and 420 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 1: again the team the trading partner would have to have 421 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: that combination to make the points work. Otherwise, if the 422 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: second pick is one round, then you get another pick 423 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: thrown in as well. Yeah, and you know, you look 424 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: at it and you say, all right, well, that's why 425 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: when hit the hit the point with Brooks of Seattle, 426 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: Queen with Baltimore, and Wilson with Tennessee. Any one of 427 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: those three guys would have been great. And the Bengals 428 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: were at thirty three and we're talking you know, uh, 429 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: let's see, we're talking twenty five, twenty six and twenty 430 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: seven or something like that. I mean, they any all 431 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: those guys almost got to where no, we're thinking, any 432 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: one of those would be perfect to be super at 433 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 1: thirty three. So other people pulled the trigger on him. 434 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: But it's not like you were way out of the ballpark. 435 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you had him raided there, and 436 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: the others had him raided in the middle of the 437 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: first round or whatever the case may be. So so 438 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: I feel good about a lot of players we were 439 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: talked about went, you know, in the area, but none 440 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: of them slid. If any one of those three had 441 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: slid the thirty three boom, I think it would have 442 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 1: been a slam dunk. Pick them, take them whoever. I 443 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: can't believe Brooks went ahead a queen, that's a surprise 444 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: as well. But you know in Seattle, Seattle knows what 445 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: they're talking about. Seattle's historically had some pretty salty defenses. 446 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: And you know, Brooks has got a little bit of 447 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: a shoulder issue, a nagging shoulder problem, and I thought, 448 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, in this era where you know you really 449 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: can't have you doctors put their own hands on them, 450 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: that you know, maybe he would slide a little bit 451 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: because he was starting to show up in a lot 452 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: of these mocked drafts and he's his tape is impressive. Now. 453 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: The dude impacts football games, but it's it's interesting to 454 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: me the queen slid as far as he did. That 455 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: was a little bit of surprise to me. I give 456 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: you credit for Jordan Brooks because I looked at eight 457 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: of what I would consider to be the most credible 458 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: mock drafts. First thing this morning, from the most prominent 459 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: draft experts, not a single one had Jordan Brooks list 460 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: as a first round pick. You had him on our 461 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: podcast yesterday is the first pick of the second round. 462 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: And sure enough, as we pointed out, he went twenty 463 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: seventh overall to Seattle. Yeah, they looked at it. You know, 464 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: six feet turning forty pounds, ran a four to five 465 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: three you know, ran like you know, a safety, a 466 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: fast safety, ran like a slow corner, you know. I 467 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: mean at that carrying that body weight with thirty four 468 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: thirty five inch arms, and I mean he impacted games now, 469 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: his contact ratio is huge. So and then Queen, he 470 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: can he can run LSU. LSU and Alabama, Man, those 471 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: two football teams they're gonna I'm sure. I'm sure it 472 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: was a big recruiting night for both of them, locking 473 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: up guys for not only this year, but years down 474 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: the road. And every time there's in an NFL draft 475 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: in LSU and Alabama started throwing a bunch of bodies 476 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: out there in the first round. That's good for the 477 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: overprooting process, no question. All right, If the Bengals don't 478 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: trade down at the top of the second round and 479 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: you have to make a pick, who is it? I mean, 480 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: I think I'd probably go with one of the receivers. 481 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: I'd probably take the highest rated receiver on the board 482 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: at that point in time that the Bengals you know have, 483 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: and uh, I'd probably I probably leaned toward, you know, 484 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: like a Shnal type guy. Um, I'd probably I'd probably 485 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: go in that direction, either that or you know Josh Jones, 486 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,719 Speaker 1: if I'd say, all right, well he's not, he's not. 487 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: I don't think any of those guys, I think I 488 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: think all of them would still be on the board 489 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: past thirty three, or most of them. But if I 490 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: had to pick one, I'd either pick probably is a 491 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: lot of the offensive tackle um or I'd probably take 492 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: you know, the receiver um point. You know what I mean. 493 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: It's it's almost like a flip of the really because 494 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: one of those interior defensive tackles, one of those guys 495 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: that wouldn't hurt you either, honestly, But I guess i'd 496 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: probably I could probably either go I'd probably end up 497 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: I'd probably end up taking one of those receivers. Where 498 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 1: direction I go? How world about you? Well, since I 499 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,479 Speaker 1: had said on the previous podcast Jalen Johnson from Utah, 500 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: I feel compelled to stick with him as my prediction. 501 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: But the guy that I now have kind of fallen 502 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: in love with and want is one of those wide receivers, 503 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: Denzel Mims. It's got the size six three two five, 504 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,719 Speaker 1: four three eight. You know, we all get seduced by 505 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: great forty times when it comes to big, productive wide receivers. 506 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: I talked to the broadcaster at Baylor who said nothing 507 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: but great things about Denzel Mims. So I'm kind of 508 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: infatuated with a notice on the prospect of adding Denzel Mims. 509 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: But if I have to make the prediction, will stick 510 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: to my guns and go with Jalen Johnson. Yeah, and again, 511 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, either pick would be like, 512 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: oh man, that's that's a reach. That's a stretch, that's 513 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: a reach, you know. I mean, I think I think 514 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: that all the guys were talking about are in that range. 515 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: You know. That's why in a perfect world, if somebody 516 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: really has I gotta have this guy, and I gotta 517 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: trade up, and I gotta do it. If somebody said, 518 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Jones was a number one draft pick. 519 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: He was a first rounder. You know, he might have 520 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: been toward the back end of the first round, but 521 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: he's a first rounder and we are desperate. We we 522 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: gotta we got to take care of the right tackle position. 523 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: But like I said, you know, watching him, he's got 524 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: really good feet. You know, he's he's getting himself a 525 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: physician to make, you know, to block. So I mean, 526 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: his footwork over overcomes I think some of that short 527 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: arm deficiency, but poor That's the first thing I noticed was, Man, 528 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: he's got some short guns on him. There's no doubt. 529 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: All right, buddy, your day one duties are finished, get 530 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: some sleep, look forward to doing it again after round three, 531 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: and what's your coach? We'll post a similar conversation after 532 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: Friday night's draft coverage comes to an end. Last night, 533 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to interview the first quarterback selected 534 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighty four draft. Believe it or not, 535 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: that year, no quarterbacks were taken in the first round, 536 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: but the Bengals landed a great one at number thirty 537 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: eight overall. The pick is in, and now Joe Burrow 538 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: will try to do what Ken Anderson and our guest 539 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: Boomer as Siason did in leading the Bengals to the 540 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl someday. Boomer, when you were drafted, you had 541 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: a chip on your shoulder from lasting to the second route, 542 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: even though you were the first quarterback pick that year. 543 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow doesn't have that chip being taken number one overall, 544 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: but he wasn't a highly touted recruit. He had to 545 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: transfer from Ohio State to LSU to get his opportunity 546 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: to play. Do you like his path to the NFL? 547 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: I do as a matter of fact. You know, he's 548 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: a kid who loves to play ball. He loves to 549 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: play football, and that's the most important thing at our position. 550 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: He's a smart kid. He learned under a pro style 551 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: offense down in LSU the last two years, and he 552 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: really flourished his past season. You know, I have mixed emotions. 553 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm so happy for the Bengal fans, for the Bengals themselves, 554 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: for Athens, Ohio, everything that comes along with the first pick. 555 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: But I also haven't mixed the motion for Andy Dalton 556 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: because Andy Dalton gave nine great years to the Cincinnati Bengals, 557 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: unfortunately was unable to win a you know, a playoff game. 558 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 1: But you know, hopefully the Bengals will do him right 559 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: and don't do what they did to me held on 560 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: to me when David Klingler was drafted and I had 561 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: to sit through an entire year of that. Now, Andy, 562 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: he's going to be making sixteen million dollars if he 563 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: does that here, so I think that would probably you know, 564 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: take some of the edge off. But I just hope 565 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: they do the right thing by Andy and move him 566 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: out and let this become Joe Burrows team from day one, 567 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: because that's the way it has to be. I mean, 568 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: today's day and age, these athletes are so gifted and 569 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: want to be the guy in the locker room. And 570 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: I think that's what the Bengals have to do. Now. 571 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: They have to they have to move Andy Dalton. That's 572 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: got to make that's gotta be like Hardy number one. 573 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: But man, it's a great day for Cincinnati and for Athens, 574 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: Ohio and Southeastern Ohio, Southwestern Ohio. This should be something 575 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: that hopefully ten years from now we're talking about it. 576 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: We're talking about guy who's been in many Pro Bowls 577 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: and hopefully a couple of Super Bowls. What do you 578 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: think it means to the other guys in the locker 579 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: room to get a player coming up the greatest season 580 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: in college football history. I think it's great for them. 581 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: I think there's going to be definitely an uptick in 582 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: I think intensity. I would I would believe the amount 583 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: of money that they spent on defense and free agency 584 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: is gonna help. You know, maybe they'll go more offensive 585 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: players here in this draft. That's yet to be seen. 586 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: But when you have a significant personality, like when Andrew 587 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: luck first walked into the Colts locker room, when Peg 588 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,959 Speaker 1: Manning first walked into the Colts locker room. Now all 589 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: of a sudden things, you know, Lamar Jackson walking into Baltimore, 590 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger walking into Pittsburgh, Aaron Rodgers when he finally 591 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: took over four, Brett Farr. But those are the personalities 592 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: that you want, and I think Joe Burrow definitely has 593 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: that personality. You know, he's He's got a bigger personality 594 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: than Carson Palmer, which is what I think this franchise 595 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: needs right now. What advice you have for him? The 596 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: easiest thing for me to say to him is just 597 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: try not to do it all yourself. You got a 598 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: lot of really good offensive players around you. Jonah Williams 599 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: will be back at left tackle, Joe mix and Giovanni Bernard. 600 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: You know, you got a j Green. You've got enough 601 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: talent around you that has had a lot of success 602 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: that their you know, their relative positions. Let them do 603 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: the heavy lifting. You just learn and study, and you 604 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: become very verbose in your offense and how you decide 605 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: and how you talk about defenses with Zach Taylor, and 606 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: you'll just be fine. It's not all going to come 607 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: in the first week. There's gonna be some growing pains 608 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 1: and you're just gonna have to deal with it, just 609 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: like the rest of us did. And then all of 610 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: a sudden that life will go off and you'll figure 611 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: it out, and then you'll truly become the great quarterback 612 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: that I think we all believe he will be as 613 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: much as any player in franchise history. You had swagger, 614 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: and your teammates sped off it. You see that quality 615 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: in Joe Burrow, I do. He gave an interview a 616 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago and talked about how he had 617 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: and lost at any level, and that's exactly what the 618 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: Bengals need. Not that Andy Dalton hasn't had a great 619 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: career in Cincinnati, he certainly has. You know, Joe burrows 620 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: situation at LSU reminds me a lot of my situation 621 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: in Maryland back in the eighties. When I first got there, 622 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: we were running the beer offense and it was not 623 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: good for a passing quarterback, if you will. And then 624 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: two years left in my career there, Bobby Ross came 625 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: in as the head coach and brought a pro style 626 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: offense and then all of a sudden accentuated me as 627 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: an athlete. And I think that's exactly what Joe Brady, 628 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator at LSU, did for Joe Burrow, and 629 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: we saw him put up numbers that we've never seen 630 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: any quarterback in the history of the college football. Does 631 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: I think the swaggers there. I certainly think the ability 632 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: is there, and I can't wait to see, you know, 633 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: him wearing a Cincinnati Bengal uniform. The day after Joe 634 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: Burrow won the Heisman Trophy, you had him on the 635 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: CBS pregame show, you welcomed him to the family, you 636 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: gave him a Bengals helmet. Did he make an impression 637 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 1: that day? He did, you know, much like Carson Palmer 638 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: did back. I think in two thousand and two, I 639 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: did the same thing to him, you know, And I 640 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: always said what I was telling Joe that day, said, Joe, 641 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, Cincinnati's not a place for quarterbacks to go 642 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: and die. As a matter of fact, quarterbacks flourished in Cincinnati. 643 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: I did, Kenny Anderson did, Andy Dalton did, and so 644 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: did Carson Palmer. So whatever negativity you're hearing about the franchise. 645 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 1: I think it's more perception than reality. I mean, it's 646 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: a good place for quarterbacks to play, and quarterbacks have 647 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: been very successful here, and even after nine years, Andy 648 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: Dalton's had a really good career there in Cincinnati. And 649 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: you know when you change coaches and now all of 650 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 1: a sudden, you know it's going to have a negative effect, 651 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: especially on the quarterback. And I think that's really what's 652 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: happened to Andy. So now Zach Taylor is going to 653 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: get his guy, and I think it's going to be 654 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: a good match. It's a young head coach with a young, 655 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: up and coming quarterback who is certainly physically as gifted 656 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: as any quarterback Cincinnati's ever had. Get to remember, he 657 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: was an All State point guard in Athens, and that 658 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: tells me all I need to know about how he 659 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: knows how to facilitate, how he sees the court, how 660 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: he sees the field, and that's the way that he 661 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 1: played at LSU and that's the way I would expect 662 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: him to play from day one when against the Cincinnati 663 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: If there's a knock, it's that he doesn't have a cannon. 664 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: He doesn't have a John Elway or Patrick Mahomes arm. 665 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: How significant is that? Well? What about my arm? Dan? 666 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: Was my arm okay back in the day? Not bad? Yeah, 667 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: you know what, Kenny Anderson had a really I would say, 668 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: if you want to talk about it on a level 669 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: of strong to extra strong, Kenny had a strong arm. 670 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: But what really separates quarterback is their accuracy and how 671 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: they move in the pocket and how they create extra 672 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: space for themselves. Joe's athletic enough to do that. He 673 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: didn't have to do it as much as a La Shoo, 674 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: maybe as maybe Josh Allen had to do it at 675 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: Wyoming where he was running for his life every game. 676 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: But I think his arm is more than strong enough, 677 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 1: and it'll be all predicated on timing and accuracy anyway. 678 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 1: Joe Montana, one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, 679 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: was one of the most accurate quarterbacks, didn't have the 680 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: strongest of arm. I could said the same thing about 681 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, So I would put this kind of ability 682 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: arm ability in that category. Now, whether or not he 683 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: turns into a Hall of Fame player, only time will tell. 684 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: Thanks to the great boomer Assiah Sin and that's going 685 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: to do it for this episode of the Bengals Booth Podcast, 686 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: brought to you by Prime Sport, the official fan, travel 687 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 1: and hospitality partner of the Cincinnati Bengals. If you haven't 688 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: done so already, please subscribe, and if you have a minute, 689 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: give it a rating or share a comment that helps 690 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: more Bengals fans find this podcast. I'm Dan Horde. Thanks 691 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: for listening to the Bengals Booth Podcast.