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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, February third, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. But we're counting

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Speaker 1: down to the Big Game. It's me and your man

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Speaker 1: named g Marcus Graduated, my Michael Florida and Lakwan Jones.

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Speaker 1: I know fel was that we can officially say super

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Speaker 1: Bowl because we worked for the National Football League. But

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Speaker 1: I just I just love like saying the Big Game,

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Speaker 1: like we don't actually have the right to do it.

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Speaker 2: I don't have the big dance.

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Speaker 1: I won't lie.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that that's why it gets called the

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Speaker 3: Big Game until I started working here, and now I

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Speaker 3: find it the funniest thing possible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, my wife didn't know that until a few

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Speaker 1: years ago, because I don't remember how it happened. We're

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Speaker 1: watching a commercial for buying TVs or something like that,

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Speaker 1: and I just kind of chuckled and I explained it

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Speaker 1: to her. She's like and now sort of like you

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Speaker 1: now that she knows, like she can't unhear it sort

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Speaker 1: of thing. So, yeah, obviously it is.

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl week.

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Speaker 1: I guess. Happy Pro Bowl Day guys for those who

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Speaker 1: observe Should Sanders Day, Yeah, only because yeah, so I

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Speaker 1: didn't have this in the rundown. By the way, we're

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Speaker 1: not really previewing the Super Bowl because we still got

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Speaker 1: another show this week, So it doesn't really make a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of sense at this point. In case you

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Speaker 1: hear a little bit of background noise, that is because

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Speaker 1: Florio is on media row, right, Glas, you got a

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Speaker 1: sick trip to to San Francisco for the week to

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Speaker 1: hang out. You like that, So you know on Thursday

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Speaker 1: show we'll obviously talk more about the game itself. We

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Speaker 1: got some other news and just random things to kind

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Speaker 1: of fill some time with. I did not put in

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Speaker 1: the fact in the news that apparently Justin Field said

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Speaker 1: no to the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I did say it's gonna take.

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Speaker 1: Some time to work on his off season training. My

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Speaker 1: question is did they ask him before or after they

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Speaker 1: asked Shador Sanders, Like, I want to know, I need

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Speaker 1: to know the timing of this, right, did they asked?

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Speaker 1: They asked Justin Fields and he was like no, So

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Speaker 1: they said Shudur come on down or was it like, hey,

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Speaker 1: should do is here? Justin you want to come? And

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Speaker 1: he's like nah, Bro, Like that's.

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Speaker 2: What I want to know. That is really what I

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Speaker 1: Anyway, A lot of things going on in terms of coaching,

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Speaker 1: still getting coaching hires. A couple of the big ones. First,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals have hired Rams offensive coordinator Mike Lafleur to

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Speaker 1: be their new head coach. So look on, I have

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Speaker 1: a couple of questions. If you won, does this mean

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Speaker 1: you have to pay attention to the Cardinals?

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Speaker 2: And two? Is michae lefluor dead to you now?

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Speaker 4: No, Michael Lafleur is not dead to me. No, this

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Speaker 4: happens like every year. I mean, honestly, listen, I do

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Speaker 4: feel like Mike Lafleur, he's kind of earned his path

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Speaker 4: to be in head coach now, but we always see

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Speaker 4: our coaching staff get picked apart but him going to

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Speaker 4: the Cardinals, I still feel the same way I had

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Speaker 4: before or after him. It's, you know, like we're playing

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Speaker 4: the game together, but they're the little brothers of their division.

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Speaker 4: They're controllers unplugged, so you know, it's just kind of like, hey,

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Speaker 4: we'll see what he's able to do there.

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Speaker 2: All right, go ahead?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I I wanted to ask Lakwan, like, so

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Speaker 3: I know you say they're the little brothers and stuff.

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Speaker 3: But if they suddenly become good under his leadership, how

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Speaker 3: does that change?

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, they still need a quarterback. There's so

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Speaker 4: many roster holes there, right, they need a running back.

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Speaker 4: They need to figure out that defense. So I don't

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Speaker 4: think this is going to be like year one coming out.

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Speaker 4: You know, chin check the older brother, like you see

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Speaker 4: the younger brother some strength now, like, oh no, I

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Speaker 4: think it'll be more so like five to eight wins Max,

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Speaker 4: you know, like they if they beat us in one game,

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Speaker 4: it'd be like, okay, cool, you guys are you know,

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Speaker 4: you're getting some things together.

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Speaker 2: But we'll see.

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Speaker 4: Do you think he asks a team who took the

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Speaker 4: bus and who drew?

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Speaker 2: Who drove?

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Speaker 1: He's gonna make me very proud.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually happy for him though, Cliff forceman rock with

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Speaker 4: us for a while now, man, So I'm expecting him

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Speaker 4: to make some moves of it are and they just

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Speaker 4: got to figure out the biggest question, like lose their quarterback.

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Speaker 1: That is the biggest question, right is you know obviously

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Speaker 1: the Kyler Murray era is done. Yeah, you look around,

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Speaker 1: and now that the question is where does he get

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Speaker 1: traded too?

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Speaker 2: Who or what in.

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Speaker 1: Terms of assets do the Cardinals get back in return.

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Speaker 1: That is kind of a big question. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Florida if there are any easy answers to that question

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Speaker 1: right now, Because you know, the draft class is not

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Speaker 1: not particularly good. This just feels like they might have

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Speaker 1: to just eat it for a year and then figure

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Speaker 1: in like twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's funny because all the teams that need

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks were like, Kyler might be interesting there, but we

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Speaker 3: clearly don't want him in Arizona. To names came to

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Speaker 5: Or a name that I've already brought up a lot.

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Speaker 5: This willis this dude who played everywhere better than the

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Speaker 5: guy brother who coached.

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Speaker 4: Up Miliquillis the last couple of years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, I mean, I guess, so I write, if you're

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Speaker 1: Mike Lafleur, just call over your brother Matt, get a

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Speaker 1: scouting report on maliqu Willis, right, Like, what does he

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Speaker 1: do well? Where?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: Where?

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Speaker 2: Does he need help? I guess that's an easy way

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Speaker 1: I saw Lakwan one as I was, like, you know,

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Speaker 4: I had questions about this question.

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Speaker 1: So I was I was like doing some research and

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Speaker 1: just looking up Kyler and seeing what the news was

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Speaker 1: a lot of rumors. It's all rumor, right, like none

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Speaker 1: of this is substantiated, but rumors about potential trade destinations.

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Speaker 2: And one of the ones.

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Speaker 1: That sort of raised my eyebrow a little bit was

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Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. Because the Dolphins are in essence done

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Would you make a swap? And especially if

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Speaker 1: you're if you're the Cardinals, you.

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Speaker 2: Have an out.

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Speaker 1: There's an out into his contract after this year, Kyler,

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Speaker 1: I think there's still a couple more years before you

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Speaker 1: So I mean, LQ, if you are the if you're

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Speaker 1: if you can coach him up and maybe get him

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Speaker 4: I gotta say, if I'm Micha Laflor and you bring

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Speaker 4: gonna keep Kyler, And to be honest like that is

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Speaker 4: not the answer I expecting, But I gotta be honest,

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Speaker 4: like to to me, we've seen the best of him

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three and it's now twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: He has the risk factor that you know, we honestly

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Speaker 4: I'm getting my first head coaching gig, if I'm trying

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Speaker 4: to rebuild and fill some holes on the roster, I'm

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Speaker 4: going to do that with Tua that has not played

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Speaker 4: be honest, I'd rather Kyler where you can kind of

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Speaker 4: remotivate him, play to his strengths, because we had a

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Speaker 4: defensive coach in Johnathan Gannon trying to Michael Scott his

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Speaker 4: way into Kyler's life to be motivated to go out

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Speaker 4: there and play like football. But like, I would rather

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Speaker 4: have Kyler because at least with Michael Floor, he's coming

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Speaker 4: from the McVeigh tree. He's coming from you know, basically

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Speaker 4: so many years under McVeigh to understand what works for him,

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Speaker 4: Like the play action, prestat motion, that's going to be

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Speaker 4: a lot what Michael four is going to bring over

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Speaker 4: there for the Cardinals, and that may work for Kyler

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Speaker 4: to kind of get the ball out fast and kind

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Speaker 4: because he's mobile. So it's like the fit is kind

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Speaker 4: of there. But the guys up top the organization, they've

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Speaker 4: already kind of signaled like they're done with Kyler. But

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Speaker 4: if it's Kyler or Tula and it's on the table

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Speaker 4: for me, I'm gonna stick with Kyler.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Like the things that he talked about Floria win terms

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Speaker 1: Does I guess I'm just looking at it more as

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Speaker 1: which of the.

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Speaker 2: Two can I sort of move on from faster?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I guess that's sort of my thing there, Although I

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Speaker 1: guess that brings us back to Jacoby Brissette, right.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'm for that. If that's an option on the table,

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Speaker 4: give me Brissette over both of them, Like, to be honest.

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Speaker 3: Look, if they go to tour route, they're basically guaranteeing

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Speaker 3: the floor, Like we don't care what your record is

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Speaker 3: this year, we're gonna reset everything the year after. But

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Speaker 3: as Laque was talking, I was like, I do wonder

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Speaker 3: if they brought in an offensive coach to try to

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Speaker 3: get the most out of Kyler, right, Like he's their

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Speaker 3: franchise guy.

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Speaker 4: They've ate him a bunch of money.

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Speaker 3: I know the last couple of years hasn't been great,

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Speaker 3: but there was once a time where Kyler was really

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Speaker 3: fun and exciting, Like that guy got completely just taken

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Speaker 3: away in the last couple of years with the Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: But maybe they're here and they're being like I can

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Speaker 3: get the most out of Kyler, like there's untapped because

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Speaker 3: I still believe there's some untapped potential there. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if we ever see it, but he's too talented

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Speaker 3: to be what he has been the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like we aren't going to see

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Speaker 1: it anymore. Like I feel like we've seen Pete Kyler

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Speaker 1: just because it seems like he just doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: run anymore and That's what made him exciting and fun

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Speaker 1: and productive is because he gave you that element of

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Speaker 1: hey man, we gotta we have to account for this

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Speaker 1: guy getting out of the pocket and being a playmaker.

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray is not going to succeed.

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray can't play like Matt Stafford, Right, he can't

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Speaker 1: stand in the pocket and just sling the ball all

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Speaker 1: over the yard like I'm just waiting for it iggered.

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Speaker 1: I'm not. It's not an insult, like they are two

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Speaker 1: different styles of playing. Right, Like Stafford thrives as parkt

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Speaker 1: pocket passer. That's what he does. I mean, the dude

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Speaker 3: He I know he's twenty eight now, Sam Donald, but

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Speaker 3: But to me, how I view Mendoza at least as

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Speaker 1: Somebody describe the Raiders offensive line as being like like

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Speaker 1: A couple of coordinator moves, one of them happening just

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Speaker 2: Hey, are you really excited about that? I saw it.

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Speaker 4: But it all comes down to Jackson Dart not being

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Speaker 2: I mean, Florida you are for this show.

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Speaker 1: I mean we all like Cam scattaboy, you are definitely

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Speaker 3: And look, they could say it was a mutual parting

441
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Speaker 3: of ways and stuff. It wasn't like they went back

442
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,400
Speaker 3: to their ex. They were like, yo, we need you back,

443
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Speaker 3: like we were better with you.

444
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,679
Speaker 4: And then Naggie got back.

445
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Speaker 3: Like if you think Matt Naggy was like, you know what,

446
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 3: I'm gonna leave Patrick Mahomes to go work with Jackson Dart.

447
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 4: You're crazy. Oh yeah, I'm going back home because no,

448
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 4: Matt nagg is a Jersey guy, you know, big Jersey salute.

449
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 4: That's why I can never throw Home completely under the bus.

450
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 4: But if you tell me and give me the option,

451
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 4: I'd get to work with Jackson Dart and I get

452
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Speaker 4: to go home, why not, I'll do it.

453
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's definitely pieces to work with. Like, I

454
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 1: don't want to make it seem like, you know, it's

455
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 1: all bad. There's definitely things that are intrigued there. Plus

456
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Speaker 1: you know, look, he gets to work with with John Harbaugh, right,

457
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 1: and and you get a respected coach who brings stability,

458
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 1: gives you some optimism, has had success, So there are

459
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 1: definitely upsides to it. But when I saw that they

460
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Speaker 1: were hiring Matt Naggy, it was kind of like.

461
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Speaker 3: Oh, it kind of felt like it was just like

462
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Speaker 3: all right, because they wanted Monkey like that was very clear,

463
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 3: so like and uh, Naggie wanted like the Titans job.

464
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 3: So it kind of seemed like they both were like,

465
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Speaker 3: you still free, all right, I guess we could make

466
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Speaker 3: this happen.

467
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Speaker 2: You work for sure.

468
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, in Denver, Davis Webb, who was getting some head

469
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 1: coaching interviews, including with your Buffalo Bills Florio, he has

470
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Speaker 1: been promoted too offensive coordinator from quarterbacks coach.

471
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Speaker 2: For the Broncos.

472
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Speaker 1: That take it over for Joe Lombardi, who was let go.

473
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Speaker 2: Lakwan. You're a big RJ. Harvey guy. You're a big

474
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 2: Pat Bryant guy.

475
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Speaker 1: If he could stay healthy, does anything change?

476
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Speaker 2: I mean, like the you know roof for quarterbacks coach.

477
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Speaker 2: It's a coordinator.

478
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Speaker 1: I know it's a step up in responsibilities and visibility,

479
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 1: but like, do you think anything significantly changes for the

480
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Speaker 1: Broncos offense and those guys in particular.

481
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Speaker 4: Not really, because like you're promoting a guy that, in

482
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 4: Sean Payton's eyes, he can digest and you know, go

483
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 4: out there and teach the ways of the offense that

484
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 4: Sean Payton kind of wants to form and molded. So

485
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 4: it's a good in house hire. Again, like it's somebody

486
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Speaker 4: that's going from a quarterback coach to an offensive coordinator.

487
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 4: It's a backup quarterback getting the quarterback coaching job now

488
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Speaker 4: to an offensive coordinator. We've seen this move plenty of

489
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 4: times this season, right, I mean David Blawin with the

490
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 4: Commanders and we're seeing Sean Mannion, I mean the former

491
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 4: ram backup quarterback. I mean the backup quarterbacks are out

492
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 4: here getting these jobs and now they're starting to call

493
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Speaker 4: the shots in the field. So I honestly look at

494
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Speaker 4: it as like, Okay, we're going to see something similar.

495
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 4: I just hope we don't get away from RJ. Harvey

496
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 4: at Pat Brian or Troy Franklin or Marvin Mims for

497
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 4: you know, just straight a circus, a confusion of chaos.

498
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 4: Like well, we saw this past season, like we saw

499
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 4: them kind of being rotational players. But let's not get

500
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Speaker 4: too crazy. You know, let's not try to get in

501
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 4: there and get cute. I like what I saw in

502
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 4: terms of usage in Pat Brian his development. I like

503
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 4: what I see out of Troy Franklin this season. My

504
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 4: guy was more fantasy relevant to Courton's son for X

505
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 4: amount of weeks at some point midway of the season.

506
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 4: So it's like we have these staples in don't get

507
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 4: in there cute and start messing things up and trying

508
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 4: to put your own sauce and flavor in there. I

509
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 4: have a question, yes, who's called the place?

510
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Speaker 3: Because I know they got rid of Marty and they

511
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 3: got rid of their play past game coordinator and stuff.

512
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 3: But like, Sean Payne, you were the one calling the plays,

513
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 3: Like you went for it on fourth to one, You

514
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 3: called that place.

515
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Speaker 4: So like, I know they.

516
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Speaker 3: Wanted to promote Web to kind of keep him in

517
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 3: house because he was becoming very, very popular.

518
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 4: But like, if it's Chean Payne calling the plays again,

519
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 4: I don't know if anything changes.

520
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 2: That's fair.

521
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so then that sort of does make me wonder,

522
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: you know, how excited do we get about Davis webb

523
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 1: oc If he's not the way you know, it's it's

524
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Speaker 1: sort of it's like whoever becomes the OC of the

525
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: whoever is the OC of the Chiefs, Right, It's like cool,

526
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: you sort of kind of contributed on the group project,

527
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: but we know that it's we know that if Ay

528
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: reed that's doing the bulk of the work. And I

529
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: guess the same thing potentially applies in Denver. Like hey man,

530
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: like I'm glad you you know, hey, Davis Webb, you're

531
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: gonna come in and you get to you know, sprinkle

532
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: little salt and pepper in the in the pot.

533
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Speaker 3: But you're the one who are the only ones who

534
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 3: don't get that penalty, you know, Like he's calling the plays,

535
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 3: but they're always like, you know what you you breathe

536
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 3: next to McVeigh, We want you.

537
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 4: But it's their job to get the younger players to

538
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 4: practice squad players and all these developments of said systems.

539
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 4: So like you're standing next to McVeigh hearing him and

540
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 4: understanding what he wants and you're having to spew that

541
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 4: out for the younger players to go out there to

542
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 4: understand and execute.

543
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: But you don't think that happens with other teams and

544
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: other coaching staffs Andy Reid, not the let's let's keep

545
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: it a buck here, and you're gonna get triggered. But

546
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Speaker 1: the McVeigh coaching trees has been sort of mid.

547
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Speaker 4: I it's not McVeigh, it's not mcgay is great. KOs

548
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 4: we claim Zach Taylor. He made it to the Super

549
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 4: Rowle and then after that Nick Kaylee and Houston last

550
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 4: season wasn't great, Like even though he's kind of a

551
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 4: Belichick guy, but like still it's like I get the

552
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 4: mid call, that get the mid badge, but it ain't McVeigh.

553
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 4: He's not the problem.

554
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: He's just obviously McVeigh is very good at his job.

555
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 1: I mean, Bill Belichick was very good at his job.

556
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: Apparently not going to get in the Hall of Fame,

557
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: but good.

558
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: It was very good at his job. The Belichick coaching

559
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 2: tree has been.

560
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 4: A disaster, right, oh yeah, and I think that is mine.

561
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, like Zach Robinson, we're still trying to

562
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: figure out, like, hey man, what is Zach Robinson?

563
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: Like it's been sted in Q.

564
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Speaker 4: Do you claim her? He Morris, yes, Big Jersey went

565
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 4: to the OS though. It's all right, I understand you

566
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 4: go to the forty winers. You need a job, my brother,

567
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 4: It's understood. Man, go out there and do your thing.

568
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: But I ain't.

569
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Speaker 4: I ain't scared to know overheatm worst.

570
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: I mean, to be honest, he.

571
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Speaker 4: Got Aaron Donald. Man, you got the best out of

572
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 4: Aaron Donald. And then you had Jaylen Ramsey, Like, of

573
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 4: course you were going to go out.

574
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Speaker 1: There and he's gonna have a healthy Nick Bosa and

575
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Speaker 1: healthy Fred WARNERO.

576
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Speaker 3: This is completely off topic, but I to Ernest Jones

577
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: and he said that it, uh, it meant a lot to.

578
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 4: Beat the Rams. I sure did, because we didn't pay

579
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 4: them and we casted them off. But it's fine. You

580
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 4: went to the hop like you did your thing.

581
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 3: I was asking that question a lot to the Seahawks,

582
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 3: like did it mean more to face your rivals?

583
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 4: And you know they're like, yeah, yeah, we play those

584
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 4: And his face lit up. He was like, yes, yes

585
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 4: it did. Like he hates the Rams.

586
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: I get it, cam Makers, he hates the Rams. I

587
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: get it.

588
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 4: I understand. It's fine, but you know what, we'll be

589
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 4: back here next year and then we'll see we'll see

590
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 4: there all right.

591
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: Anyway, you know that's the coaching news. Do sure there

592
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: may be more.

593
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: I know there been other ocs that are sort of

594
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: in getting chatted up and maybe moving places whatever.

595
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: We'll get to that at some point.

596
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: Do you think we should do a show in the

597
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: off season about the coordinator hires and kind of what

598
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 1: this means. Maybe, yeah, you know, kind of just kind

599
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 1: of break those down for a little bit. It's like

600
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: a break come back talk some things, top discussions. That's

601
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: all gonna happen next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

602
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: Obviously it's kind of a dead week in terms of

603
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: what's happening.

604
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 2: These were literally only one.

605
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: Actual real tackle football game left.

606
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: In this season. I like how you tackle?

607
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, tackle football is one tackle football game left the season.

608
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: That's it.

609
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: I will talk about the flag football game a little

610
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: bit later. Two hand touch. So there's, you know, not

611
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: much to talk about. But I did find a couple

612
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: of stories that I thought were interesting. The first one

613
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: that really caught my eye justin Jefferson recently said quote

614
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Speaker 1: I definitely felt like we would have done better in

615
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: quote if Sam Donald returned. I don't think he's breaking

616
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: any news there, right. I mean with Sam Donald the

617
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: year before they were fourteen and three, they made a

618
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: legit playoff run. Like yeah, Donald had the worst game

619
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: of his season, maybe at the worst possible time for

620
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: the Vikings, but I don't think that's a big argument.

621
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: But Florida, were you surprised that he would say it

622
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: out loud?

623
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 4: Yes, but I respect it.

624
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: I love it, like I wish athletes took this approach more.

625
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: But I also will say I think it's a little

626
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 3: bit because they just fired their GM and the reports

627
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 3: were that KOC wanted Sam Darno back and didn't want

628
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: to hand it over to JJ.

629
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 4: Now we were not in the building. We can't speak

630
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 4: on that one hundred percent.

631
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Speaker 3: But if KOC is feeling this way, I guarantee you

632
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 3: he spoke to Justin Jefferson and like this is probably

633
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: be like, I'm sure this is me speculating here, but

634
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: like you would you guys be surprised if you found

635
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: out like Justin Jefferson and Koc are being like like

636
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 3: Lebron pointing at JNS, like at some of these bad

637
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: JJ plays. So like, yeah, I think there's just a

638
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: lot of frustration, especially the Sam's in the Super Bowl, right,

639
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 3: and the Vikings were so close last year, not to

640
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, but like we thought they were contenders

641
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: and you could have been Again, you have it, like,

642
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: especially for someone like Justin Jefferson, who I know he's

643
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 3: great and he's gonna be great for a while, but

644
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: like NFL career is a short man, and like he's

645
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: trying to be one of the greatest of all time,

646
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: and like playoff success matters and regular and wide receivers

647
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,719
Speaker 3: more than any position or judged on stats. And he

648
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 3: had by far his worst year because of the quarterback plays.

649
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 3: So while I'm surprised to hear him say it, I

650
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 3: think if you gave him truth to him, he'd.

651
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Speaker 4: Probably say a whole lot worse.

652
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Speaker 1: Well, this is the part of this though, right, because

653
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Speaker 1: I read through all the quotes.

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Speaker 2: And look, I get it.

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Speaker 1: It's different reading them versus hearing them because you don't

656
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Speaker 1: necessarily hear the tone in which he's saying or whatever.

657
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: But he didn't openly trash JJ McCarthy. And you know

658
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: one of the things he said, he's like, look, he's like,

659
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Speaker 1: I'm happy for Sam. I want to see him do well.

660
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: I hope they win it. He's like, selfishly, I wish

661
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: he'd been doing this for us, but like he was.

662
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: It seemed like he was more complimentary of Sam. The

663
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: necessarily hammering his current quarterback. But I mean he just

664
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: spoke some truth. It's like, yeah, you know, it wasn't

665
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: always great. You know, the quarterback play wasn't always great.

666
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: And like again, I don't think that's necessarily.

667
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: Trashing your guy.

668
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: It's just speaking what we all saw, like we all

669
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: watched it. But that being said, LQ, I mean, Floyda

670
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: pointed it out. I think coming into this year we

671
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: kind of felt like, well, Justin Jefferson can.

672
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: Just make anybody better, right. We two years ago we

673
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: were all.

674
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, man, I don't know what he's

675
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: gonna do with Sam Darnold, and then he was just fine.

676
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: So this year we're like, all right, well maybe it's

677
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: gonna be just fine. And it really wasn't. So assuming

678
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: a healthy JJ McCarthy is your Week one starter and

679
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: your QB one in Minnesota, Like, what do we expect

680
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: for Justin Jefferson?

681
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: Are we drafting him? We're not drafting him first round, right,

682
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: what are we doing with him?

683
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 4: I think folks are still going to paint that picture

684
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 4: to draft him in the first round, which I respect

685
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 4: because again, you can paint the picture that Taryash King,

686
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 4: you know, and I feel like when volume is king,

687
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 4: how valuable are these targets going to be? And we've

688
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 4: seen JJ McCarthy last season, we all seen it in

689
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 4: our eyes. But I will play the other side to

690
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 4: throw him some slack. Okay, Justin Jefferson dealt with a

691
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 4: hamstring injury all summer long. That is time missed with

692
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 4: his starting quarterback. Those are valuable weeks where it's like, hey,

693
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 4: you're not building that chemistry where JJ McCarthy, where we've

694
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 4: seen at times this season that Jordan Addison was his guy,

695
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: Jalen Naylor was his guy. TJ. Hockinson played the middle.

696
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,719
Speaker 4: He wasn't that, you know, as impactful last season. And

697
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 4: I just feel like, if you're not on the field

698
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 4: building this chemistry with your own quarterback, I get your frustrations,

699
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 4: but man, you have to be there and available. So

700
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 4: now that we're going into this next season, my expectations

701
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 4: for Justin Jefferson me personally, I see him going in

702
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 4: that one ten to one to twelve spot. He still

703
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 4: has a first round grade. But who is going to

704
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 4: feel good about that? Like, who's going to feel like

705
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 4: they have to common finish that they have as if

706
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 4: it was a Sam darn or another veteran there. JJ

707
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 4: McCarthy to me, we have to hear reports that he

708
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 4: is playing ten times better than what he was last summer.

709
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 4: We need to hear reports that, you know, the chemistry

710
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 4: between him and Justin Jefferson are top tier, a level

711
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson's back. I need the workout videos, like I

712
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 4: need to be hyped up about this. But at the

713
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 4: sudden moment right now, there is no interest whatsoever for

714
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson to be a wide receiver one.

715
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: I mean, target share matters a lot, obviously, but I

716
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: think we also have to caveat that with quality targets,

717
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: catchable targets, because Justin Jefferson got a lot of targets

718
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: he needed a ladder to catch half of it last year,

719
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: right which the thing that always broke my brain from

720
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: this past season, But it just seemed like McCarthy was

721
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: on target throwing to everybody else except Justin Jefferson. It

722
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: was like it was like he was trying to use

723
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: the force when he threw it anywhere near JJ, Like

724
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: I didn't understand it. So like I think that is

725
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: the argument I'm going to wrestle with. Is okay? Sure,

726
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: if he's getting a twenty five percent target share, that's awesome,

727
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: But if you know of that target share, only sixty

728
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: percent of them are catchable targets, Like, what is that

729
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: really getting me?

730
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: That's what I don't know that much.

731
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: It's kind of like how Drake London was with Arthur

732
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 4: Smith in Atlanta. It was like, yeah, his thirty five

733
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 4: percent target share looks great, but he has one thousand

734
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 4: and five yards and overly like sixty catches great. Nice.

735
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 3: I think they want to bring someone in to kind

736
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: of compete with Jay, Like you cannot go into next

737
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: season being like JJ is our guy, don't say.

738
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: Waldemort But no, I don't think he's good.

739
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 4: I don't think he's got Who.

740
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 3: Is the option right, because I don't think you want

741
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: to go with someone who you're Willis. I think Malik

742
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 3: will Is is if you whoever signs him, I think

743
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 3: is signing him to give him a kind of JJ

744
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: opportunity right to see what he could be. Like I

745
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: look at the free agents. It's not gonna be Daniel Jones,

746
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 3: it's not gonna be Voldemort.

747
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 4: It seems Russell Wilson, like Tyrene.

748
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 3: Taylor, like it's it's it gets ugly quick at free

749
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: agents this year, quarterback Mac Jones. Jones and Jacobi Brissett

750
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 3: are two that I think makes sense.

751
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: Mac Jones might win that competition.

752
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, if if they go win This sounds crazy, right,

753
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: but if the Vikings add Mac Jones and they go

754
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 3: win to him this season with him as a starter,

755
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 3: I'm pushing JJ backup to where he was going last year.

756
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: If it's JJ McCarthy, I agree with Lakwan. I don't

757
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 3: really want to take him in the first round.

758
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I am, you know, I really do think.

759
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: I think if Mac Jones is there, I think he

760
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: wins that competition.

761
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 4: If it's Mac Jones, I'm being just as loud for

762
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 4: Mac Jones as I was for Daniel Jones this last season.

763
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 4: Like I'm saying top twelve or more because Mac Jones

764
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 4: showed us said he can play. It doesn't matter who's

765
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 4: out there. The JV players had the forty winers pushed

766
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 4: out there. He made them look like top tier players,

767
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 4: like top class in Kendrick Bourne.

768
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: Would you do that if his name was Mac Florio.

769
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 4: Yeah I would.

770
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Mac from like Montana, right.

771
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 4: I don't know. Does he play the same way.

772
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, he doesn't have that same swagger. I

773
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: mean Matt swag man.

774
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: Uh make has tmus swag.

775
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: I mean like, yeah, I appreciated it for the forty

776
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: nine ers, but like, let's keep it a buck. That

777
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: suit he wore, that, that two face suit.

778
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 4: He wore face, it wasn't it wasn't pretty.

779
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: That was not great.

780
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: It was not great cool though, you know, I mean

781
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: that suit he wore on Draft night with like the walk,

782
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: the Meme walk, where like he looked like he was

783
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: on his way to like, you know, close up, don't

784
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: skip over Duval.

785
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 4: Come on, man, he was.

786
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: On the way to close the real estate deal. I mean,

787
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: let's let's keep it a buck here, right he just

788
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: told somebody at condo and was like all excited to

789
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: go sign paperwork.

790
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: Like that's what it looked like. Yeah, crazy, is it though?

791
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 4: That We're like Mac would be the savior like that

792
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 4: that speaks of him. Come on, Mac and kaos it's selling.

793
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: Take I look Mac Jacoby put Kyler there, Like, I

794
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 3: just think I think.

795
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 4: The Vikings are too good to give JJ, Like I

796
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 4: think JJ deserves another shot, but I think the Vikings

797
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 4: are too good to be that team.

798
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: That's the issue is that they are in kind of

799
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: a win now mode, right like there they have enough

800
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: talent on that roster to win now. They should be

801
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: they should be battling it out legitimately with the Bears

802
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: and the Packers for the top of the division, and

803
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: you just never really got that feeling from them. They

804
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: got hot at the end of the year, but at

805
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: that point it just felt like they were sort of

806
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: out of that.

807
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 4: You know, they finished over five hundred.

808
00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: I tweeted it out at the end of the year,

809
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: like the Raven Lamar did not The Ravens and Lamar

810
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 3: did not be a winning team this year, and people

811
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: were like, well, the Vikings had a winning and I

812
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 3: was like, no, I'm not counting that.

813
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 4: They were like, I'm not counting them just because they

814
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 4: won games late in the year.

815
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

816
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: So I don't know, but I do think Justin Jefferson

817
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: is going to be an interesting conversation and we figure

818
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: out kind of what the quarterback situation is and whether

819
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: or not we get the development we hope for from

820
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, Like maybe he's the guy.

821
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: We just need him to be better.

822
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 4: After the Super Bowl, let's do another mock right, and

823
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 4: let's do like two rounds. Like I kind of want

824
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 4: to see where he would probably fit in that second

825
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 4: round where you feel comfortable because, like I said, I

826
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 4: could see somebody painting the picture at the one ten right,

827
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 4: but you're definitely wrapping around getting another wide receiver at

828
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 4: that point, you're not going running back because you could

829
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 4: burn yourself just sitting there with just JJ. So I'm

830
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 4: just curious and where we could try to paint him

831
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 4: at if he falls to round two, probably I'll probably

832
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 4: take a lot of suits.

833
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: I'll snap that up. Yeah, that up?

834
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: Which side note to this, I am actually gonna be

835
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: in a mock draft later this week, are pal Bob

836
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: Harris football diehards. They've led up a mock draft, so I'll.

837
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 2: Be in that some like I will.

838
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: I will definitely you know, screenshot it or you know

839
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: save it so that that's the thing we can talk

840
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 1: about too. We'll definitely do our own. But I also

841
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: have that one too with a whole bunch of different

842
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 1: people from across the industry, so we can.

843
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 2: Talk about that.

844
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: Other interesting headline, I saw Nico Collins sticking by his

845
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: guy c J. Stroud saying quote dudes a baller LaQuan

846
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: what what are the Texans?

847
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 4: A complete mess? I mean they have no identity. It's like, man,

848
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 4: what are we doing here? Like we talked about earlier

849
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 4: on the pods of where they have, you know, two

850
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 4: guys that are basically prototypes of the same player, like

851
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 4: Nico and Jay Higgins, and then you have Christian Kirk

852
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 4: and then you have Jalen Nole. Like it's just what

853
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 4: are we doing here? And like there wasn't much of CJ.

854
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 4: Stroud that we saw this season that we could say, hey,

855
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 4: you were moving on the upward, like we kind of

856
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 4: seen the twenty twenty three season, the historic season that

857
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 4: he had. But now we're at this point questioning is

858
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 4: he good at the quarterback position? Like we're questioning is

859
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 4: it him? Now we're questioning do they even pick up

860
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 4: his fifth year option? And it's like is it him

861
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 4: or is it everything around him? You have a mid

862
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 4: tier run game, Your old line was in shambles for

863
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 4: the last two seasons where there's been no consistencies there,

864
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 4: the play calling up and down every week. You want

865
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 4: to do different things and then try new things on

866
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: the job, and it's like, what are we expecting when

867
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 4: he doesn't have no type of consistent passing a passing game,

868
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 4: like as an offensive coordinator, it's constantly changing. So I

869
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 4: don't look at CJ as the top of the list

870
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 4: as the problem. I look at everything else that's around

871
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 4: of him, like, how are we going to fix this

872
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 4: old line issue? How are we going to get this

873
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 4: run game on part? Is Joe Mixon playing football next year?

874
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 4: Like he swears he is on his Instagram like he's

875
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 4: out here tweet I mean tweeting and posting on Instagram

876
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 4: stories that he's ready for revenge. And all the pictures

877
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 4: that he is posting is with c J.

878
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: Strouss So who hisselfself, Ryan himself.

879
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 4: I don't like no one did him wrong, you know. Yeah,

880
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 4: But when you have guys like Nico still like propping

881
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 4: up CJ to being one of the best quarterbacks in

882
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 4: the league, when you have Joe Mixon out there in

883
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 4: the fantasy streets, you know, posting stuff and saying that

884
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 4: c J. Stroud is a good player, and like you

885
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 4: kind of have to look at everything else that's around him,

886
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 4: like what is going on?

887
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 2: I want to believe that the CJ.

888
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: Stroud we've seen the last year two years is not

889
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: the real CJ.

890
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: Stroud.

891
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced that rookie year CJ. Stroud is that

892
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: the real guy either. I think it's somewhere in between that.

893
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: But you know, I need that version of him to

894
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: show up consistently before I can believe that need Bobby back.

895
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: Well, Bobby ain't coming back.

896
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: But the thing that made him special his rookie year

897
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 3: was the deep ball, right, Like that was what was

898
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: his calling card. And then they just keep making that

899
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,240
Speaker 3: Olne worse. You know what you need to get the dall,

900
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 3: you need time and like that. Also going back to college,

901
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: I thought he struggled when under pressure, and the Texans

902
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 3: for some reason were like, let's give you even more pressure.

903
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: So yeah, but whatever they have should go your defensive set.

904
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: You got young wide receivers. Just build that all on

905
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: this offseason.

906
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 4: But look at it last season, not the season that

907
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 4: just passed. All their injuries he had to deal with

908
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 4: at the wide receiver is a Nico tang digs Like

909
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 4: all his weapons went out at different times, and I

910
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 4: forget the exact number where they only overlapped and played

911
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 4: what like two three games together.

912
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it was it was you probably count on

913
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 1: one hand the number of games they played together.

914
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 4: Come on, yeah, Like, come on, man, you cannot point

915
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 4: at CJ as the problem. And that's kind of been

916
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 4: the narrative this whole offseason of like is he good

917
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 4: at the position or not?

918
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 2: Also, are we.

919
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: Are we being influenced by the last thing we saw

920
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: of CJ.

921
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: Stroud? Right?

922
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 1: Actually the last two games, Like they survived that playoff

923
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: game against the.

924
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: Steelers despite CJ.

925
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: Stroud being awful and just you know, having fumblelitess of

926
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: the worst degree, and then they lose because he kept

927
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: throwing it to the wrong team.

928
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 4: Five interceptions in the playoffs is crazy.

929
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: Right, And I definitely think we are influenced by the

930
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 1: last thing we saw.

931
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: Recency bias, I think does play into it.

932
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: But you know, also though there were just times when

933
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: he just was not great during the season, especially especially

934
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: a fantasy context, it just was nothing exciting.

935
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: His game logs are so petitions, Like not saying you

936
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 3: judge him based on those, but like looking at his stats,

937
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: like two games are more than two touchdowns all year,

938
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 3: a bunch with one or none, and then like barely

939
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 3: any games over two fifty, Like he's better than this,

940
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: and it's that's what makes it frustrating.

941
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 4: He's also not a consistent runner out of the pocket

942
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 4: when his own line is basically opening the doors to

943
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 4: let hell through, and it's like he doesn't often take out.

944
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 4: So it's like, if he's not going to run often,

945
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 4: if he's not going to have time to even let

946
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 4: the play develop, what are we honestly doing with Like.

947
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean when the marathon runners are coming

948
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: through the table.

949
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: Like that. Yeah. Yeah, although you know he's like he was.

950
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: Never a runner. I mean that was a thing coming

951
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: out of college, Like we knew CJ. Shroud was not

952
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: a runner, but yeah, maybe he should be.

953
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 4: He's like he has like Stam Darnald Wheels, like he

954
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 4: could take off and absolutely mean if he has to,

955
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like or shre Door Sanders,

956
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 4: Like he's not the fastest guy and most elusive, but

957
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 4: he can still get upfield if he needs to.

958
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: Right, And that's the thing I think for guys like that,

959
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: you just have to show that you're willing to do

960
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: it a couple of times.

961
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 2: That alone will sort of slow.

962
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: Down the pass rush if they know that you can

963
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: escape out the side door.

964
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 2: Or whatever and just take off.

965
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: Then yeah, you gotta sort of, you know, be a

966
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: little bit more disciplined in your pass rush. If they

967
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: just know you're gonna stand back there, then they just

968
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: they just go all out and they just come after you.

969
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: And so maybe that's what t J. Stroud needs to do.

970
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: Doesn't need to run for a lot.

971
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 4: He plays like a sneaky He plays like a sneaky athlete.

972
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 4: If we all know what that means in decode, Dat's.

973
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: Almost I almost here? Is he a coaches son? First

974
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: first guy and last guy? That was all right? Oh man,

975
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: run more, run more. That's all. It's all we're asking anyway,

976
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: a break come back. It is Pro Bowl Tuesday if

977
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: you're listening to this show on Tuesday. So I have

978
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: an idea about the Pro Bowl. And this isn't like

979
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: my you know, trapdoor or whatever other goofy ideas. I

980
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: don't know whether this is what I think is actually good.

981
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys might laugh at it, but this

982
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: one I actually think is good. So we'll talk about

983
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: that and I guess whoever wins the Pro Bowl that's

984
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: coming up next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

985
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: So the Pro Bowl is being played tonight.

986
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: I will say this, I think it's a bad thing that,

987
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: like the general public seemed surprised.

988
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 2: At least people on my timeline.

989
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: It seems like there was a general like, oh, the

990
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls on Tuesday. There was like a very much

991
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: a surprise that it's happening on Tuesday. And as far

992
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: as I could tell, I don't think there's a skills competition. No,

993
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: I was I don't know.

994
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: I was searching.

995
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 1: I was searching on our own company website, NFL dot com,

996
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: and I saw nothing that suggested a skills competition. There

997
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: were articles about last year's skills competition, but I didn't

998
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: see anything. Just a note that the the Pro Bowl

999
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: will be played on Tuesday night and you can see

1000
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: it at eight pm Eastern on ESPN and NFL Plus.

1001
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: Subscription required for NFL Plus.

1002
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 4: Which I note.

1003
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll ever get rid of the Pro Bowl,

1004
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: But putting on a Tuesday night seems like a concession

1005
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: from the league that they understand how people feel about it,

1006
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: right that, you know, like I think they just understand,

1007
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: like we'll put it in on the Tuesday before the

1008
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. It's kind of a dead period. You know

1009
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: guys don't want to play. You know, Justin Fields is

1010
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: turning them down. After the year, he had like, I

1011
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 1: think that's just I think that I think.

1012
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 4: That's a signal that the He said, now I got

1013
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 4: homework to do, which I understand. It's a school night.

1014
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 4: He's got his book bag.

1015
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: He's got to raise his book bag right exactly behind

1016
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: the curtain. We were talking before the show. Uh Lakwan

1017
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: asked Florio if he had a book bag, and I

1018
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: was like, I haven't heard that term since I was

1019
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: in the fourth grade, Like, I just you know, I

1020
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: don't know. I called it backpack, Like I understand, it's

1021
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: the same thing. I just haven't heard anybody saying bag

1022
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: in a long time.

1023
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 3: I did see on Twitter someone was like, if Justin

1024
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 3: Fields is turning down your version of an All Star Game,

1025
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 3: it's time to pack it up.

1026
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: It's probably time to put in the book bag and

1027
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: just move on with it. But because you know, the

1028
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: NFL still wants to have an All Star Game, I

1029
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: was thinking, you have an idea for it, a way

1030
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: to maybe sort of tweak it, right, because that's the

1031
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: thing we've seen with all these All Star games, right

1032
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: the NBA is on its like fifteenth different version of

1033
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: the All Star Game. Yeah, and I don't think anybody

1034
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: likes any nobody's like any of the ideas, but they

1035
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: keep trying. You know, Baseball has sort of tweaked it

1036
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: here and there. So my idea for the Pro Bowl is,

1037
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: all right, how about you take some of the you know,

1038
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: you know, name your Pro Bowl teams, get your Pro

1039
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: Bowl guys, but and keep it as a flag football game.

1040
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: But have your NFL All Stars, your NFL Pro Bowl

1041
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: players play against some of the top professional flag football

1042
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: players out there, and it's twofold, like one in a

1043
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: year like this, like this year, next year. It's very

1044
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: much a way for the league to promote the fact

1045
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: that flag football is going to be.

1046
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: In the summer Olympics.

1047
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: Right, that's a big initiative for the league, is hyping

1048
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: up flag football for the Olympics. But on top of it,

1049
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: like the league has really made an initiative of trying

1050
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: to make flag football more of a thing, sponsoring it,

1051
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: especially for you know, girls leagues in high school, just

1052
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: to kind of get kids interested in football of any

1053
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: kind and really promoting the idea of flag football. So

1054
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: why not, you know, have your top level guys, your

1055
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: your NFL stars playing against some of these stars of

1056
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: the flag football circuit. That way, the country sort of

1057
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: gets to know them a little bit more. I also

1058
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: think it allows you to sort of open up markets. Like,

1059
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, I think people are gonna feel uncomfortable, like

1060
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna fel uncomfortable having, you know, women play tackle

1061
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: football against NFL players, but you can play flag football

1062
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: and kind of open up that market as well. It's

1063
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: just a way to do that. I also am of

1064
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: the belief, and I may have said this on the show.

1065
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: I think I've said this to you guys in general,

1066
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: like I don't love the idea of NFL players playing

1067
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: in the Olympics, not.

1068
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: Because I think it'd be bad, Like it's easy.

1069
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 4: It's an easy sell.

1070
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: If you're INBC, right, Hey, come watch Lamar Jackson and

1071
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: John Robinson and Justin Jefferson like play flag football. That's

1072
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: an easy sell. What I like about having the the

1073
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: professional flag football players play is that, for me, the

1074
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: Olympics is sort of a time to get to know

1075
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: athletes you probably wouldn't otherwise meet. And every year at

1076
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: the Olympics you get these stars that you don't know,

1077
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: like you've never seen them because you either don't follow

1078
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: their sport, you know their sportingly comes around every four

1079
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: years something like that. It's cool to get to know

1080
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: these personalities. And I think if we put the NFL

1081
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: players in there, we sort of lose that. But again,

1082
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: I think if we make the Pro Bowl NFL Stars

1083
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: versus Flag Football pros, I think you get to you

1084
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: have to watch the Stars play, you get to get you.

1085
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 2: Get to know another group of people that you.

1086
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: Probably otherwise wouldn't get to know.

1087
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 4: I love that idea. I mean, how do we get

1088
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 4: you in the room which a'body going to make these decisions?

1089
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: And actually, I mean I know Roger Gell listens to

1090
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: this pod regularly.

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00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: I hope he.

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00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: Doesn't listen to the whole hour because part.

1093
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: Of the the whole thing to listen to this part.

1094
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, this part, Kyrie clipped this far. I do like

1095
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 4: your idea, Marcus.

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00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: As you were explaining it, I was like, let's take

1097
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 3: it a step further, right, there's always reck league guys

1098
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 3: who think they could be in the pros.

1099
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 4: Let's let's have those guys.

1100
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: In the world.

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00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 3: Come on, ten years, the league should set this up

1102
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: so that regular people are humble to know that.

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00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 4: No, you cannot come off your couch and go in

1104
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 4: the league.

1105
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: All the people came on, all the people on Twitter

1106
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: who think they could gain ten yards like in an

1107
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: NFL game, right, all those all those folks should have

1108
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: to play behind the ramsoll line. I got twelve yards

1109
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: for you.

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00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 4: Twelve yards like how many five, five, five or six?

1111
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 4: I wish we could pay the roads to make this happen.

1112
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 4: Let's go. I'm telling you, bro, you guys doubted me

1113
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 4: that I can run a five, five, eight, and you

1114
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 4: can tell you didn't give me a couple of months.

1115
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 4: I will get sub fives.

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00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: You could run a five five, you said time, you

1117
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: said you could run like a full save for six.

1118
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 2: Is that what you said you get for six?

1119
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 4: I said, there's the worst difference between all right, we're

1120
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 4: gonna have the Fantasy Olympics. No, we're gonna have the

1121
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 4: Fantasy Combine, and I'm going to beat my time that

1122
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 4: I just had a couple of months. I'm not saying

1123
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 4: you won't. I'm saying it's not gonna be for six though, right, four, seven, eight,

1124
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 4: And now you're saying that you can get you.

1125
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: Can get twelve yards in five carries, five to six

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00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: at times. Shield behind the RAMS O line one of

1127
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: the best old lines.

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00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 3: But I want like an O line of dudes off

1129
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 3: the camera, like it's just it's just all dudes off

1130
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 3: the couch.

1131
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 4: You think they could play in the league.

1132
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 2: I'm yards, I'm.

1133
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 4: Can you make us a poll? Okay, got five cars

1134
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 4: a week? Line week?

1135
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: What is this week? Eleven? Week eleven?

1136
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: Uh? Blake Corum had ten yards on eight carries. Ten

1137
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 1: yards on eight carries car actual professional football player who

1138
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: played behind the Rams offensive line. He had ten yards

1139
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: on eight carry team against the Seahawks.

1140
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 4: No, I don't see, No, why would we go against

1141
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 4: the Seahawks? We need you know, maybe I don't know.

1142
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 4: I can't even describe.

1143
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: A difference how many carries? And which team would you pick?

1144
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: I mean we could take Houston off the board, we

1145
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: take the Brown. Statistically, the worst defense was the Bengals.

1146
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: The Bengals were specifically the worst rushing defense.

1147
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah yeah. Hit me in the outside zone, skiing,

1148
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 4: give me on the outside pitch. I am up the

1149
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 4: field at least so you so your your five to

1150
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 4: five eight speed is going to beat the Bengals to

1151
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 4: the corner.

1152
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, right now.

1153
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: Fantasy got ten carries behind the Rams offensive line against

1154
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 3: the Bengals.

1155
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 4: Would he get twelve yards? Twelve yards?

1156
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: I am, I am, I'm hanging on. I'm just I'm

1157
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm looking up some things. You guys talk amongst yourselves

1158
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: while I can't doubt me. Man. I got off the pod.

1159
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 4: Couch and went downstairs with minimum stretching time and ran

1160
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 4: eighty five.

1161
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 3: To do what you But if you said I could

1162
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 3: run a five five eight, I'd be like, yeah, that

1163
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 3: sounds about right.

1164
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 4: You said, no, people, No, you guys are like six seconds.

1165
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 4: I even had people in my DMS and on the

1166
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 4: thread saying, oh yeah, he's running like seven seconds.

1167
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: That is all lineman speed. You guys think I'm that slow.

1168
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 1: Come on, no, it's we think offensive linemen are faster

1169
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: than people realize.

1170
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Speaker 3: I never I just said no to four six. I

1171
00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 3: said it would be above five. I look on, I

1172
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 3: know you got.

1173
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Speaker 4: Regular thirty four year olds.

1174
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 3: You got speed for that guy, but you don't got

1175
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: twenty two year old NFL Prospect.

1176
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: Speed Week seventeen. Imari de Mercado against the Bengals. Five

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00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: carries eleven yards.

1178
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Speaker 2: That's doable.

1179
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 4: Jerome Ford.

1180
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: Jerome Ford in week one six carries eight yards.

1181
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 4: Listen, give me the opportunity and then we can.

1182
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: Measure from there.

1183
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 4: Man, that's all I'm saying.

1184
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: I feel like I get your family.

1185
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: I just don't want you to get hurt.

1186
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 4: Here's my question.

1187
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: You have two young children to think of the first

1188
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 3: none carries, you know, like you're gonna get a forward.

1189
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 4: And I just hope that Kevin Dotson, Rob Havenstein, they

1190
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 4: hold me down, Steve Avila, I hope they all hold

1191
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 4: me down by holding you down.

1192
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: They'll be like, hey, bro, stop like that's what you

1193
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 1: got a family.

1194
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 2: You got a family.

1195
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 4: They depend on you, like.

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00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: I don't want to see your Like I love your kids, man,

1197
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: they're also I don't want to see them on the sideline.

1198
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 1: Feel like it's daddy okay, Like I don't I don't

1199
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: want that.

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00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 2: I don't. Well, Mason will probably be laughing because he hurt.

1201
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 3: Honestly, Yeah, it's like big daddy, like you get hurt

1202
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 3: to make him feel les.

1203
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, they stopped whining and stop throwing a fit. If

1204
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 4: I bump my knee or something, get hitting the sheet

1205
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 4: with a scooter like this is front.

1206
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 3: Of the front of the show and in front of

1207
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 3: real life Mike at Daddy's home. FF on Twitter said, uh,

1208
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 3: you wouldn't get off the turf after the first carry

1209
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 3: for negative six yards.

1210
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 4: I love Dowters, baby, I love Dadders. I ain't getting

1211
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 4: no negative yards. It's all positive game. Man, My yards

1212
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 4: before contact will be a lot positive. Then people would think,

1213
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 4: just understand, I'm running behind one of the best old lines.

1214
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 4: They're gonna hold me down. Okay, I love this conversation.

1215
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 3: This is definitely I put it on Blue Sky and

1216
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 3: on Twitter, so you O God, We're gonna get it.

1217
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 3: You can't make polls on Blue skot but I just

1218
00:56:58,400 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 3: post skeated it posted it.

1219
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:00,919
Speaker 4: I don't know whatever it's called.

1220
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: Hey man, that's the I think that's the official terms.

1221
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: That's that's that's sort of the official term. Yes, that is.

1222
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 1: That's definitely not true.

1223
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 2: That is one hundred percent not true. But I don't.

1224
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: I don't really spend time on the other site.

1225
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 3: I will say, Marcus, you champion for Blue Sky more

1226
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 3: than than anyone I know.

1227
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.

1228
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: I don't hang out on the other time on the

1229
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: other site. Is when is that somebody sends me a

1230
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: link to it, but I don't actively go there.

1231
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 3: Like I like posting on the other side, because people

1232
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 3: get angry very fast.

1233
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: So here's the thing.

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00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so before I were I know this is translation

1235
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: tragging on.

1236
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: If you guys stuck with us, we appreciate it.

1237
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: Every time this conversation comes up, one of these conversations

1238
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 1: come up, I always I take a clip from the book,

1239
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: the book Paper Lion, right, And if you don't know,

1240
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: Paper Lion was written by a man named George Plimpton

1241
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: back in the sixties. He was a reporter, and the

1242
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: Lions in like the mid sixties let him anticipate in

1243
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: training camp, right. And this is back in these sixties

1244
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: when like guys still had like regular jobs in the offseason, right, Like.

1245
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 2: They weren't training all your nailmen.

1246
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna read you the excerpt that I always

1247
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: post during these situations. They let him play quarterback in

1248
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: like a scrimmage.

1249
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 2: Right.

1250
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: I called out my voice, loud and astonishing to hear,

1251
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: as if it belonged to someone shouting into the yearholes

1252
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: of my helmet. Sixteen sixty six fifty five two h

1253
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: three and at three the ball slapped back into my palm.

1254
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: The lines cracked together with a yop and smack of

1255
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: pads and gear, and had the sense of quick, heavy movement.

1256
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: As I turned for the backfield, not having taken more

1257
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: than a step, I was hit hard from the side,

1258
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: and as I gasped, the ball was jarred loose.

1259
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 4: That's what you think is going to happen to me.

1260
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: Come on, this was in the nineteen sixties when these

1261
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: guys were still something close to.

1262
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 2: Like regular people.

1263
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: Now you're dealing with like the Hulk, but with flash

1264
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: speed like what Miles Garrett could snap me in half

1265
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: if he wanted to.

1266
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 4: I don't even know, you know, disqualified from this contest.

1267
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 4: No Browns players because the entire line. No Jaguars either.

1268
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 4: They're dishes as well. Like I just feel like we

1269
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 4: got to go against the Bengals and then we'll measure

1270
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 4: from them.

1271
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: But like they're still professionals. Man, the Bengals are bad

1272
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: relative to their peers.

1273
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 4: You guys know me. You cannot break this confidence. If

1274
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 4: I put my mind, I just I just the body

1275
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 4: is a different question.

1276
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: I want your wife to have a husband to come

1277
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: home to. I want your children to grow up with

1278
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: a father.

1279
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: That's all I want.

1280
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: I just want your quality of life to be okay.

1281
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 3: I just want you to have you guys watched but hurt,

1282
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 3: you know, like in the scene and Spaceshime where they're

1283
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 3: all like like because the monstars are just like hammering

1284
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 3: them like tweety, like in.

1285
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 4: Uh ice you type thing like, I don't want to

1286
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 4: see you like that.

1287
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 2: I don't want I don't want see you like that. Man.

1288
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: Anyway, obviously, obviously he's going to stick with this. I

1289
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: appreciate your confidence. I just I just question your judgment.

1290
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 2: That's all.

1291
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: You guys have a winner for the Pro Bowl, AFC,

1292
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: NFC Blag Football Game NFC NFC.

1293
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think the AFC's advantages to quarterbacks and

1294
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 3: they all said.

1295
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: No, that's fair, Yeah, that's fair. Ros quarterbacks are shred

1296
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: door standers and Joe Flacco, Joe Burrows, Joe Burrow.

1297
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: Actually gonna play.

1298
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: I know he's on the roster as an alternate Joe Flackoman.

1299
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, man, I don't know.

1300
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 4: I hope he chalks it up. Is he going to

1301
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 4: officially retire, that's a conversation.

1302
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: Brou He hasn't decided yet. I know he says he's

1303
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: still thinking about it.

1304
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 4: So I told you guys my idea.

1305
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 3: Right, you signed Flacco, you signed Rivers, you sign Russ.

1306
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 4: All these old guys, kirk cousins who could come in

1307
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 4: and give you a and you just a month each.

1308
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Speaker 1: And then you have the Rolling Stones play the national anthem.

1309
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just go all the way old. If

1310
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it, we're gonna go old. Let's go

1311
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: all the way old. All right, that's enough yapping on us.

1312
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: Thanks for hanging out with us. We'll be back with you.

1313
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: On Thursday when we will actually preview the super Bowl,

1314
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: because then we'll be a couple days closer to the

1315
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: actual super Bowl, so we'll get that done. Man.

1316
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Speaker 2: Enjoy San Francisco, Florio.

1317
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 4: I did send you some yeah see you soon, all right.

1318
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: I did send you some restaurant recommendations so you can

1319
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: you can have those in your back pocket.

1320
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: Enjoy, have a good time over in Chinatown and everywhere

1321
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 2: else there.

1322
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: So I didn't mean time for us, I'll do it

1323
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy,

1324
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: safe and healthy, do good and live well.

1325
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 2: Enjoy the week, everybody. We'll talk to you again. On Thursday.

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Speaker 6: Wow, I don't know

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Speaker 1: A