WEBVTT - Some Nutso Fan Theories

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from house Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark.

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<v Speaker 1>I almost forgot who i was for a second. There's

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<v Speaker 1>Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Yeah, there's Jerry or is she

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<v Speaker 1>really there? I don't even know anymore because it just

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<v Speaker 1>occurred to me. We're doing a show on uh TV

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<v Speaker 1>show fan Theories, and we have our own little fan

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<v Speaker 1>theory here that Jerry doesn't exist. Yeah, that's true. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a fan theory which is sort of a common thread.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of these is either like, oh they

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<v Speaker 1>were really dead or you know, or they didn't exist

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<v Speaker 1>to begin with, right, and so we've heard from people

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<v Speaker 1>for years. I think that Jerry's made up. I love it, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're right. We're we're not saying no, actually, Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>totally real. Anyway, I'm looking at it right now. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was going through the internet looking for think pieces

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<v Speaker 1>essays on why people come up with fan theories or

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<v Speaker 1>what about fan theories make them, you know, make shows better.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't find anything. No, I think the answer is obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why I couldn't find anything. Too. People

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<v Speaker 1>just have time on their hands. That's not what I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say. I was gonna say that it takes

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<v Speaker 1>something that's already pretty enjoyable and adds entirely new dimensions

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<v Speaker 1>in depth to it. It takes something familiar and you

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<v Speaker 1>can go back and rewatch it through different lens now

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<v Speaker 1>and you have time on your hands. Right, It's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>not something that super busy people do, you know. No,

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<v Speaker 1>And then I also was like, maybe I should just

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<v Speaker 1>calm down. We don't have to explain everything. We can

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<v Speaker 1>just have fun sharing fan theories. That's what we're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a summer break one. Yeah, this feels like

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<v Speaker 1>one of those. I'm we're both drunk, sure, pretty drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding kids out there, we're just joking. Should

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<v Speaker 1>we just get right into these? Yes? Some of these

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna be shorter, others are going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>little longer, and we're just gonna kind of jump around. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we start with the Granddaddy or end with the Granddaddy? Uh? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Granddaddy to you Uma by the wall? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like that one though? Yeah? And I thought

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if I said it, Yeah, I think we'll start

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<v Speaker 1>with say, by the Bell. I don't know why. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought if I said it, really only I would know

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<v Speaker 1>what you were saying. Um, we'll start with say by

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<v Speaker 1>the bell, we'll finish with one that I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. Okay, cool, that's very um click baity, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>but so one you won't believe the last one. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that um is really hard to do

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes up when you when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>fan theories, we should say, I guess we should define.

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<v Speaker 1>A fan theory is basically, it's where somebody who likes

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<v Speaker 1>the show says, hey, you know this show that you

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<v Speaker 1>think means this or is about all this, It's actually

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<v Speaker 1>this is what's going on almost all the time. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just somebody's idea. But the part of the backbone of

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<v Speaker 1>a fan theory is that it has to hold up

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<v Speaker 1>and just about every circumstance. Yeah, and I'll get one

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<v Speaker 1>out of the way quickly. Is a bad example, because

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<v Speaker 1>to me, a bad fan theory is uh murder. She

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<v Speaker 1>wrote she was really a serial killer because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you never found out what happened to her husband and

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<v Speaker 1>all these people are dying around her. I like that one, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just too easy. It's not like to me.

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<v Speaker 1>A good fan theory is one you can say, and

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<v Speaker 1>this happened, and look at this, and what about this?

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<v Speaker 1>About this? So I know what you mean, and yes

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<v Speaker 1>you a fan theory doesn't have to do there else

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<v Speaker 1>it's just some schmo saying something somewhere. But murder, she wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>has a couple of things to back that up besides

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<v Speaker 1>the husband. And the husband I think is whatever. But

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<v Speaker 1>but the point that I've seen here there Number one

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<v Speaker 1>is Jessica Fletcher is a murder author of murder mystery authoress,

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<v Speaker 1>and she murders go follow her everywhere she goes. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>think about the last time you stumbled upon a murder, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just called TV. Okay, So that's one thing hold on.

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<v Speaker 1>And then secondly, even when she travels, she stumbles upon

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<v Speaker 1>new murders. But more to the point, in her little

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<v Speaker 1>town of Cabot Cove, a population, a significant number of

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<v Speaker 1>the say two hundred seventy four episodes of murder she wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>took place there. If even two hundred of those murders

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<v Speaker 1>happened in a town of it would be the murder

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<v Speaker 1>capital of the world percentage wise per capita. So I

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<v Speaker 1>see what you're saying by the fact that she's a writer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like she's a detective. Like you can't say it. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>the eight team we're always getting in these crazy adventures

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<v Speaker 1>like they were hired to each Yeah, they were seeking

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<v Speaker 1>it out. She just happens to be sucked into it.

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<v Speaker 1>She just happens to be there. Right. I've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>that at TV show either, so that probably something to

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<v Speaker 1>do with it. What never seen murder? She wrote, shock

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<v Speaker 1>because I was a thirteen year old boy, not a

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<v Speaker 1>year old person. It's even better now, really, Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>rewatching it? Oh yeah, it's on Netflix and I think prime.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, man, it's good. Check it out. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying like, oh, murder, she wrote good on my hipster.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been watching Murder, she wrote for years and years now, Pal, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know have a beard. No, but but hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I want to extend this for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>You raised a very good point, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I defended murder. She wrote with that same point that

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<v Speaker 1>a fan theory has to have meat on its bones.

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<v Speaker 1>It can't be an offhanded thing. It's proved what you

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<v Speaker 1>just said. Prove why Jessica Fletcher is a serial killer.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's that. They there's a couple of them. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a little thin, granted, but there's something to back it up,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes it a decent fan theory. Not the best,

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<v Speaker 1>but a decent one. The other thing is it's really

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to pinpoint the origin of fan theories. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like who did this first? Yeah, who came up with

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<v Speaker 1>this idea? Well, I've got one for you. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about the saved by the Bell fan theory.

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<v Speaker 1>And people are just like nervous with anticipation about that one. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>as far back as I can tell, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a person. A writer on the website Cracked Cracks website,

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<v Speaker 1>a writer named um Man I lost their name Logan Trent,

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand twelve wrote a post called Saved by

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<v Speaker 1>the Bell a conspiracy theory. Um so he originated this one.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as I can tell, he gives zero credit

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<v Speaker 1>to anybody else. And the way that the post has written,

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<v Speaker 1>it really comes across like he is laying out his

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<v Speaker 1>argument himself. So it's possible. And if if, if you

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<v Speaker 1>had this idea prior to two thousand twelve, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>not Logan Trent let us know. But I'm bestowing Logan

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<v Speaker 1>Trent with the origin of the Saved by the Bell

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<v Speaker 1>fan theory, which is one of the best. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>um big shout out to Cract and Mental Flaws and

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<v Speaker 1>our own article and who else was me? TV had

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<v Speaker 1>a good one? Yeah? Um, Paste magazine had one. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's a lot of good fan theory uh articles

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<v Speaker 1>out there all right. So at long last Saved by

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<v Speaker 1>the Bell and I like this one, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember watching this show at all. What but

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<v Speaker 1>I I know these characters and the gist. So I

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<v Speaker 1>had to have watched it at some point. You didn't

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<v Speaker 1>watch Saved by the Bell. No, it wouldn't. That would

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<v Speaker 1>in my wheelhouse, I guess not. Older teenage boy slash

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<v Speaker 1>college Um, well they had Saved the Bell of college years.

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<v Speaker 1>They's just for you. Uh. But I do know these characters,

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<v Speaker 1>so it had to have absorbed into me somehow. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the deal. Pre Saved by the Bell. This

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know. Um. There was a TV show

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<v Speaker 1>was it called Good Morning Miss Bliss? Yes? And it

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<v Speaker 1>was unbearably bad. He saw that too. So the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of this show is there's this boy named Zack. This

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<v Speaker 1>is an Indiana, not just Zack, Zack Morris, Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>Zach played by Mark Paul Gosler, right, Um, this was

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<v Speaker 1>an Indiana, of course, not California. And he was troublemaker.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was a teacher named Miss Bliss who was

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<v Speaker 1>super smart and always thwarted him. She was what's the

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<v Speaker 1>name of the lady who was in the original Parent

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<v Speaker 1>Trap played the two twins, Hayley Mills. Yeah it was her.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay. Apparently like then, when you signed a contract

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<v Speaker 1>with Disney as a child, they own you for a life. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a couple of friends named Mikey and Nicky. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're always putting him in his place. Uh. He has

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<v Speaker 1>a brother, his parents are divorced, and by all accounts,

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<v Speaker 1>Zack Morris and good morning, Miss Bliss is a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a schlub who is always sort of getting his

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<v Speaker 1>come up it's from other people. Yeah, kind of a loser. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>basically the opposite of Zack Morris and Saved by the Bell.

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<v Speaker 1>Did the ever say Zach attack? I think so. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a T shirt even that said that. So

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<v Speaker 1>flash forward and how many years later was this couple.

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<v Speaker 1>So good morning, Miss Bliss goes off the air. I

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<v Speaker 1>get the feeling it wasn't very popular, or they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have rebooted it as Saved by the Bell. They would

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<v Speaker 1>have just you know, kept it going exactly. Uh to say,

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<v Speaker 1>by the Bell comes along and now Zack is at

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<v Speaker 1>Bayside in California. He's Mr. Everything. He's as this article

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<v Speaker 1>points out, he's the most popular kid, ins cool, and

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<v Speaker 1>excels in everything, sports, music, casual, racism, whatever. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the logan transporting. Uh. He's the alpha and his circle

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<v Speaker 1>friends Mikey and Nikki are gone. Yeah, they're just gone.

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<v Speaker 1>No explanation, right, and there's no explanation for any of this,

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<v Speaker 1>like how he got to California. But it's it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same character, right, it's the exact same character, but there

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<v Speaker 1>are some huge, huge changes, Like at his core he

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<v Speaker 1>is a different person. Actually not necessarily at his core,

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<v Speaker 1>but as far as how he's treated and viewed by

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<v Speaker 1>his peers and everyone else, he's the differences night and day.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not a duet anymore. He's not a loser. He's

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<v Speaker 1>he's a total winner. Has logan trend points out, like um,

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<v Speaker 1>if he were to miss a quiz, rather than fail,

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<v Speaker 1>he would convince the teacher to hold a bake off,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he would win the bake off by cheating.

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<v Speaker 1>Like That's that was how like he went through life.

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<v Speaker 1>And also very notably his parents were no longer divorced,

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<v Speaker 1>they were married, and he didn't have a brother. He

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<v Speaker 1>was an only child and was beloved by all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah he had Uh. I think Slater was went from

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<v Speaker 1>his rival to his um sort of his pal, but

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<v Speaker 1>his you know, his second Yeah, his wingman, Screech was

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<v Speaker 1>around in both, but I think he was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>screeching both, right, didn't changed much, Yeah, it Screech has

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<v Speaker 1>always been screeched alright, So what's the big reveal? What's

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<v Speaker 1>the fan theory? So the fan theory is that Saved

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<v Speaker 1>by the Bell is the daydream fantasy of Zack Morris

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<v Speaker 1>who's actually living in back in Indiana at John F.

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<v Speaker 1>Kennedy Junior High and that the whole it's great man,

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<v Speaker 1>and that the whole um, the whole premise of this

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<v Speaker 1>this fan theory is revealed through the theme song, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So in the theme song, the theme song talk it's

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<v Speaker 1>about like how harried Zack is Well, it's all first person, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but you assume that it's talking about Zack, because the

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<v Speaker 1>whole show is it revolves around Zack. He's the narrator um,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's having like a lot of trouble, like getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready and he gets out to the bus just in

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<v Speaker 1>time to see it fly by, and the teacher's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pop a test and he knows he's in a mess

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<v Speaker 1>and dog ate all his homework, And if you actually

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<v Speaker 1>watch the show, nothing ever gets Zach. He's untouchable. So

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<v Speaker 1>in the theme song it says, it's all right because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saved by the bell, right, yes, which this fan

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<v Speaker 1>theory suggests that once once he settles in, either settles

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<v Speaker 1>into class and starts day dreaming or gets home at

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<v Speaker 1>night and starts dreaming, he can go off to bay Side,

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<v Speaker 1>where he's the biggest winner around. That is the bell, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the fact that these lyrics, by the time I

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<v Speaker 1>grab my books and I give myself a look, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at the corner just in time to see the bus,

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<v Speaker 1>and then eventually writing low in my chair, so she, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>she won't know I'm there, meaning the teacher. This all

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<v Speaker 1>is Zack in Indiana it describes a different person. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make any sense that these lyrics if you had not

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<v Speaker 1>known that that was a show that existed and all

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<v Speaker 1>you knew was saved by the bill, these lyrics don't

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<v Speaker 1>make any sense. But they do if it is all

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<v Speaker 1>a fantasy in his imagination. Sadly, it also makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>if you think that the producers hired the composer before

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<v Speaker 1>they were really aware of what the show is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, and that's what the composer came up with.

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<v Speaker 1>Lyrics wise, Yeah, that's not nearly as fun. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing I like about fan theories is that there

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<v Speaker 1>almost not real it's just fans having fun. But I

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<v Speaker 1>like the idea to imagine like some subversive writer that's like, oh,

0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:58.319
<v Speaker 1>well here's what we'll do. This is all elaborate fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>of this Zack guy. I've got one other thing that

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<v Speaker 1>the I think the Cracked article points out if not

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<v Speaker 1>someone else came up with it later. They pointed out

0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:10.800
<v Speaker 1>that Zach has the power to stop time and and

0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:14.400
<v Speaker 1>address the camera like he breaks the fourth wall fairly regularly,

0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:18.840
<v Speaker 1>and um, he can just stop time and move around

0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:23.800
<v Speaker 1>within this frozen time, which also, I mean that's a

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<v Speaker 1>weird thing for somebody to be able to do if

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<v Speaker 1>they're not in the middle of their own day dream

0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:33.280
<v Speaker 1>or night dream. I love it, man, that's a good one. Um.

0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:39.720
<v Speaker 1>And you know, uh, things like Mikey and Nikki disappeared. Um.

0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:41.880
<v Speaker 1>At one point, Kelly is in love with him and

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<v Speaker 1>then she just is gone with no explanation. Yeah he

0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.480
<v Speaker 1>he people kind of pop in and out sometimes with

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<v Speaker 1>no explanation at all. I think Kelly dumped him and

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<v Speaker 1>then like all of a sudden, she's gone. And she

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<v Speaker 1>was like one of the characters throughout the entire save

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<v Speaker 1>by the bell Um, and then she's just gone once

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<v Speaker 1>she dumps Zach. He's he's Terry. He's really bad at school,

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<v Speaker 1>but he got a fifteen o two in the s

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<v Speaker 1>A t Like all this stuff is like dream dream stuff. Right. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's another point that Logan Trent makes is that a

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen o two is literally impossible, Like you can't score

0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:18.040
<v Speaker 1>a fifteen two. Yeah, so it's all it's even more

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<v Speaker 1>evidence that all this is made up and by apparently

0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:25.200
<v Speaker 1>not so smart kid man. So that's saved by the

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<v Speaker 1>bell Man. You want to take a break and then

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<v Speaker 1>get get back to it. I think so I could

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<v Speaker 1>do this all day. All right, all right, we'll go

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<v Speaker 1>through a couple of quicker ones here. The Fresh Prince

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<v Speaker 1>is dead. Yeah, I kind of really don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>say anything else, do you. Well? In the uh the

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<v Speaker 1>TV's theme song where he talks about getting in a

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<v Speaker 1>fight and that's the whole reason he's sent to Bill

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<v Speaker 1>bell Air. Yeah, the Fresh Prince of bel Air. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a TV show from and the rap that Will Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>the real life Will Smith actually plays a character named

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<v Speaker 1>Will Smith, and he talks about getting in a fight

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<v Speaker 1>and getting sent off to bell Air to get out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to get him away from the rough neighborhood

0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:38.680
<v Speaker 1>and what Philly West, Philadelphia born and raised and um,

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<v Speaker 1>so the theory is that he was actually killed during

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<v Speaker 1>this fight, and um everything else is you know, his

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<v Speaker 1>h journey in the afterlife. Yeah. The cab that picks

0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.440
<v Speaker 1>him up to take him in bell Air, the rare

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<v Speaker 1>cab is supposedly God or some sort of um ethereal

0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.480
<v Speaker 1>figure that's taking him to the after life, which is

0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:04.359
<v Speaker 1>bel Air. His parents are like basically non existent, but

0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:08.199
<v Speaker 1>they show up a couple of times. Uh. This is

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<v Speaker 1>explained away by the fan theory as his parents visiting

0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:16.359
<v Speaker 1>their son's grave. It's pretty awesome. And then um boys,

0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the men apparently showed up at one point, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were like a heavenly choir. Oh, I don't remember that episode.

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<v Speaker 1>So that put all that together. Fresh Prince is dead?

0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:33.320
<v Speaker 1>That's right? What do you wanna do next? Should we do? Do? Uh? That?

0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.920
<v Speaker 1>The two of them from Gilligan's Island? Yeah? The drug

0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:40.399
<v Speaker 1>ones super lame? Yeah, I thought so too. There's this

0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.680
<v Speaker 1>one theory that the and this was. You're right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just dumb that that Mr Howell on Gilligan's Island paid

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<v Speaker 1>Gilligan and the Skipper to take him out to see

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<v Speaker 1>to do a drug deal, which is why he has

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<v Speaker 1>a trunkload of catch, trunk full of cash. Ginger's got

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<v Speaker 1>a drug habit, Maryann's a federal agent. This just sounds like,

0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:05.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, like, uh, someone smokes some weed and came

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<v Speaker 1>up with like like someone said, hey, what's your first

0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.280
<v Speaker 1>idea of what Gilligan's Island could have been other than

0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:15.840
<v Speaker 1>what it was? And they were drug thing? Man, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you nailed it. But there's a better fan theory

0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:25.399
<v Speaker 1>for Gilligan's Island that Gilligan's island is hell, that this,

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<v Speaker 1>like The Fresh Prince of bel Air, takes place in

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<v Speaker 1>the afterlife, but not in heaven, in Hell, or at

0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:36.720
<v Speaker 1>least in purgatory, That the Minnows shipwreck um caused everyone

0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:40.640
<v Speaker 1>on board to drown, and that in Hell, each one

0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.320
<v Speaker 1>of the characters represents one of the seven deadly sins

0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:50.639
<v Speaker 1>Ginger's lust, Marianna's envy, Professor's pride, thirst in Hell, of

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<v Speaker 1>course it's greed. Uh, Mrs Howell, I've seen a sloth

0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:58.639
<v Speaker 1>and gluttony seen that too. I've also seen Skipper as

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<v Speaker 1>either gluttony or wrath. Wrath makes a lot more sense.

0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:05.439
<v Speaker 1>And then Gilligan is sloth or is Satan himself? Yeah.

0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.680
<v Speaker 1>And one of the giveaways for Gilligan being Satan, well,

0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.960
<v Speaker 1>there's two of them. One is that he's always wearing

0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:15.800
<v Speaker 1>a red shirt. Oh well, so obviously Satan because Satan

0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:19.520
<v Speaker 1>horror red rugby shirt. Uh. And then uh, he's always

0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:23.800
<v Speaker 1>although it seems like it's always accidental, he's always thwarting

0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.960
<v Speaker 1>their plans, Like every time they get something something going

0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.520
<v Speaker 1>to get off of the island, Gilligan is the one

0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:32.119
<v Speaker 1>who somehow screws it. Up and they're stuck there again.

0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.560
<v Speaker 1>So he's keeping them in hell and this one actually

0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:42.440
<v Speaker 1>has legs. Yeah, apparently. Sherwood Schwartz, the creator Gilligan's Island Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in a book, confirmed that they did. It was his

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<v Speaker 1>idea that they did stand for the Seven Deadly Sins?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right? Yeah, So there you go one of

0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:56.399
<v Speaker 1>the rare fan theories that actually was true. I wonder

0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.560
<v Speaker 1>whoever whoever thought of that was like, no, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>was right. Well that makes me wonder if somehow it

0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:07.040
<v Speaker 1>got out or something maybe or he was retroactively just

0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:11.320
<v Speaker 1>being like, yeah, yeah, that's what I meant. Schwartz. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>a quick spot from Star Trek one that I kind

0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:17.360
<v Speaker 1>of liked. We'll do both of the Star Trek ones

0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:22.840
<v Speaker 1>about that. Um and UM on record is not having

0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:26.679
<v Speaker 1>watched Star Trek Yeah, I mean me neither. But in

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<v Speaker 1>Star Trek six, the Undiscovered Country, the Undiscovered Country. Sorry,

0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:39.879
<v Speaker 1>people are so mad at me right now. Trek he's uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And an ancestor of mine maintained that when you eliminate

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<v Speaker 1>the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:49.960
<v Speaker 1>And that was Spock in that movie. And the source

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<v Speaker 1>of that was Sherlock Holmes himself from the Sign of

0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Four from a book. And so the idea here is

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<v Speaker 1>that Spock is related Sherlock Holmes. It's a little weird

0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:05.040
<v Speaker 1>aw about that, but I could see it. I mean

0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:09.320
<v Speaker 1>they're both pretty rational. Well, Sherlock Holmes, he loved his speedballs.

0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Spot was ever into those. No, he

0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:15.280
<v Speaker 1>was more involved. You know, Sherlock Holmes love speedballs, though,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you. I did not. Doesn't surprise me. It surprised

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<v Speaker 1>me at first. So there's another um Star Trek one.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this one that Andy Griffith is the pre

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<v Speaker 1>apocalyptic world that leads into Star Trek, and this one

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty awesome. So it's based on a Star Trek

0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:44.480
<v Speaker 1>episode Chuck Mirie m I R I like Sirie, but

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<v Speaker 1>with an M and um. In this episode, the Star

0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:54.359
<v Speaker 1>Trek crew beams down to Earth and it's very obvious

0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it's Mayberry, but it's like a poke post apocalyptic Mayberry.

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<v Speaker 1>It's people entirely by kids. And the reason why it's

0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:05.160
<v Speaker 1>people entirely by kids because some disease has broken out

0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:10.680
<v Speaker 1>where um, you die at the onset of puberty. Yeah,

0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's uh, well it is Mayberry because it is Mayberry.

0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:18.040
<v Speaker 1>It's literally the same back lot that they shot both

0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:21.679
<v Speaker 1>shows at and they just outfitted Mayberry to be posted

0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:25.960
<v Speaker 1>apocalyptic right down to like Floyd's barbershop. Yeah, but I

0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:28.119
<v Speaker 1>think they just scratched out Floyd. They scratched out the

0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:30.159
<v Speaker 1>f and it just said Lloyd. Oh did it? I

0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:32.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think it's said Floyd's did it really? Yeah?

0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's that on the nose. Huh. I think so, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this one's great. This is a great fan seal it

0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:40.920
<v Speaker 1>for you. Then well there's another part two that um

0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:46.240
<v Speaker 1>the kid who played Barney Fife's cousin Virgil. Uh, he

0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:51.200
<v Speaker 1>actually appears in this Star Trek episode. What. Yeah, so

0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:54.679
<v Speaker 1>it's full circle. Gene Roddenberry was like, I'm gonna come

0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:56.600
<v Speaker 1>up with a fan theory. No one knows what those

0:22:56.640 --> 0:22:59.080
<v Speaker 1>are yet, but I'm going to lay it down for

0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:03.080
<v Speaker 1>him decades now the internet comes around. I don't know

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:05.280
<v Speaker 1>what that is, but it's going to be something. I'm

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Gene Roddenberry. You know, the the beginning of Andy Griffith

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.040
<v Speaker 1>when they're you know, walking down to the lake and

0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:14.639
<v Speaker 1>he skipped the stones on the lake. It's like right

0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:18.040
<v Speaker 1>in the Hollywood Hills, Is that right? Yeah? My brother

0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:20.199
<v Speaker 1>drove me up there one time and it's like this

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:23.480
<v Speaker 1>look familiar. Uh, And he started whistling the theme song

0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:26.119
<v Speaker 1>and I was like no, wow. He said yeah, and

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:29.440
<v Speaker 1>he's like the bat caves like over there. Oh yeah yeah,

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:31.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's sort of you know, killed my dreams. The

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:37.720
<v Speaker 1>same with mash too. That's like the Hollywood Hills, well,

0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:42.160
<v Speaker 1>like the mountains behind Malibu. Um, when you fly into

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:44.480
<v Speaker 1>l A, you can and you're looking for you like, oh,

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:47.879
<v Speaker 1>I totally see that. That what we're talking about is

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:53.720
<v Speaker 1>the helicopter in the opening UM montage for mash. Um

0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>was like, it's supposedly flying through Korea, but it's actually Yes,

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 1>it's California where they're shooting, which is way cheaper to shoot. Yeah,

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:05.280
<v Speaker 1>we shot. I mean I shot a TV commercial over there,

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 1>and I think we talked about this before. There's you know,

0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 1>one of the jeeps is still out there. I don't know,

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember that rusted out and overgrown with weeds

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and um, but yeah, it's like an old army jeep.

0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.120
<v Speaker 1>There're a couple of little remnants. Jamie Farr is still

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:20.600
<v Speaker 1>out there, like, hey, how you doing. Thanks for visiting.

0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 1>You need anyone today? Can I get a lift back?

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:27.560
<v Speaker 1>You need background? I'll be I'm cheap. That's terrible. Is

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:30.640
<v Speaker 1>he still around? I'm supposed to know this. He's like

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 1>my hometown's favorite son. Oh was he really from there?

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:37.240
<v Speaker 1>From Toledo? Yeah? Is that why they did wrote that

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:39.840
<v Speaker 1>into the show. Yeah, and he's always talking about Tony Pacos,

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:42.280
<v Speaker 1>which is a real place. Oh yeah, I knew all that,

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't know if it was. You know, Jamie

0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 1>far is definitely from Toledo. Okay, Well they never let

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:50.880
<v Speaker 1>you forget it. Yeah, he's eighty two. Hey, Jamie Far,

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>God's pizza. Um? What else we got? So? Um? This

0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:00.320
<v Speaker 1>one is one of my favorites. This good one. Gar Field,

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, is dying alone in an abandoned house and

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 1>everything that you've seen in all except I believe six

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 1>of the Garfield Strips, all of them that have been

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:17.920
<v Speaker 1>going on since nine is the hallucination of a dying,

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:21.680
<v Speaker 1>starving cat in an abandoned house. Yeah. I was way

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 1>into Garfield. Garfield was great, but the books Garfield and

0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Bloom County were my two biggies. I was never into

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:34.800
<v Speaker 1>bloom County. Man I loved it. Um, I did love Garfield, though,

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was a little bloom County is a

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:40.480
<v Speaker 1>little more advanced, I think, and it's humor, um, which

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I still got. But Garfield was like kind of perfect

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:46.360
<v Speaker 1>for a ten year old Chuck. It was perfect. So

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 1>what you're talking about is, in October of n Jim Davis,

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the creative, Garfield said, you know what I'm gonna do.

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put out six strips in a row that

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:59.400
<v Speaker 1>are not funny. No, they're actually kind of unsightling. Yeah,

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:01.160
<v Speaker 1>very bleak. And if you go and look at these

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 1>strips you can find him online obviously. Um, it's Garfield

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:10.120
<v Speaker 1>alone in an abandoned house, and it's really heavy. Yes,

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Garfield wakes up in the first strip and no one's around,

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:17.680
<v Speaker 1>and he's starting to get a little panicked, and then

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:20.880
<v Speaker 1>it just kind of continues on and and his panic

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 1>continues to build over the course of the six strips.

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Um and finally in the last one, I believe, Uh,

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>he wakes up and John and Odie are there and

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 1>everything's back to normally so happy. But leading up to

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:39.360
<v Speaker 1>that point in strip like three four five, it's it's

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>getting a little freaky and um again, like you said,

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:45.439
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing funny about it's not It wasn't intended to

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 1>be funny. It was intended to scare. And the idea

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 1>is is that what we're seeing in these six strips

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 1>are the actual reality of Garfield and that everything else.

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:59.639
<v Speaker 1>He finally manages to go back to his basically dying

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 1>fee her dream that featured John and Odi. Yeah, but

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 1>well they disappear though in that strip too at the end. Yeah,

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Like they appear and then like he goes to give

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 1>him food and then they like disappear and he's alone

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 1>again at the end of that sixth trip. Yeah, okay,

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 1>so he's hallucinated them and then is alone and abandoned.

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>So that's why. Okay, Right, So then that backs up

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 1>that whole idea that, yeah, that they're just a hallucination,

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>because they're demonstrated as an hallucination in that sixth series trip. Yeah,

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>and he's six strip series. That was his intent was

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.919
<v Speaker 1>very much to do something sad and different, and I

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.679
<v Speaker 1>think he heard quite a bit from the fans like

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:42.199
<v Speaker 1>what is going on? And then apparently he kind of

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 1>laughed at the idea when someone said, hey, uh, you

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 1>realize what people think that this is all a big hallucination,

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>like every other strip you've drawn as a hallucination of

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.400
<v Speaker 1>this dying cat. And he laughed about it, but like

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>what what else? What were people supposed to think? That?

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:00.959
<v Speaker 1>He just got really heavy and and yourd for six strips.

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:02.680
<v Speaker 1>And I think the other thing that was so off

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 1>putting about it too, is it resolves or there there

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 1>is no resolution? I think on that that seventh day,

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>the Sunday one just picks up like everything is totally normal,

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 1>and it never which makes it even more unsettling. And

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:21.399
<v Speaker 1>then Chuck, there's a there's a clear I don't know

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 1>if it was a reference to it or coincidence or whatever,

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>but there's this UM animated movie called Allegro Non Tropo

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>and there's a segment in it, um what's the name

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>of the segment Valves triast about a cat that turns

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:41.719
<v Speaker 1>out to be a ghost cat. Have you seen it?

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>It's very good haunting, but it's sort of parallels to

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Scarfield story very much. Whether or not was purposeful, we

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know that part right or did Jim Davis like

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>discount that too. I've never heard whether or not he

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>discounts that. Yeah, but that's definitely go check out the

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Garfields strips to just look up like Garfield dead or

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 1>dying or whatever and it'll bring him up. But um,

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 1>also just I'm sure it's on YouTube. Just look up

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>valves v A L S E treats t R I

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>S t E and uh, it will, it'll get to you.

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>It's very sad. Uh And you should plug your favorite thing,

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>uh ever, which is Garfield without Garfield. Oh yeah, that's great. Yeah,

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 1>which in that case it was John who was just

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 1>crazy and hallucinating, right, Yeah, you could make a pretty

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>good case that John was out of his mind when

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you take Garfield out of any given strip and it's

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 1>just John like, yeah, shouting out loud, like he's just

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 1>like like putting his head down on the counter. Good stuff. Yeah,

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>I forgot about that. You want to take a break. Yeah,

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 1>we'll take a break and go through another couple of

0:29:48.400 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 1>quickies and then the big Daddy. M all right, did

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 1>you see this Breaking Bad one? Yeah? Um, this one

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>has spoilers for Breaking Bad and a little bit of

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 1>The Walking Dead, So if you haven't seen that, tune out.

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>But there is a theory that's actually I think kind

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 1>of cool because I love both shows Breaking Bad and

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Walking Dead. That the blue meth from Breaking Bad is

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 1>what caused the the zombie outbreak in the Walking Dead. Yeah,

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>and that's bad. Yeah, but I mean it seems like

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 1>they're totally unconnected until you start digging in there. That's

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>right when you look at season one, the character of

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Glenn Hey shout out to Stephen Young, he's a listen

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>of stuff you should know. Yeah, what up? Dog? Hopefully

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 1>still is not anymore. Uh. He drives a red Dodge

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Challenger in that first season UM, which looks kind of

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>like Walter White's car that he eventually ends up with,

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and then in Breaking Bad, when Walter White returns that Dodge,

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 1>he takes it back and the manager's uh the dealership's

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>general manager is named Glenn Ohhen the best one is

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 1>it comes in season two if you ask me, Yeah,

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I agree, you take it buddy. Uh? Because why you

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't watch either one of these shows? No? No, I did. Okay,

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I saw all Breaking Bad and I've seen I can't

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>remember how far it seemed pretty far into um Walking Dead.

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm behind him Walking Dead by like one season. I

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 1>need to go back catch up. Yeah, Anyway, season two,

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Darryl played by Norman Rita's is um trying to take

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>the fever down on tea dog another character. Right, why's

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>it funny? Uh So his brother Merle, he is um.

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>He is like this bag of drugs basically, so he

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 1>looks through the bag, see faces, there's anything that can

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 1>help bring the fever down, and there is that blue

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>crystal meth from Breaking Bad in his bag. So that's

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>in a good little hint ye. And then before the

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Zombie Apocalypse, Merle, his brother h was actually a drug

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 1>dealer and he described in one episode his supplier was

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 1>quote a jankie, little white guy who threatened him with

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 1>a handgun and said I'm gonna kill you, b word,

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 1>And that very much sounds like uh Jesse Pinkman. Yeah.

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>The only way he could have gotten it across more

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 1>is if he'd mentioned fat stacks or something, right, that

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>would have been like super on the nose. Though, So

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a pretty fun theory. It is obviously meth

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>equals death everybody, that's right, especially Blue. Well, the one

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 1>thing I didn't get was like, what are like all

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>those people on meth? But then I thought, no, maybe

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>just a certain amount and then they infected other people

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 1>with their zombie juice. Uh okay, I got one. All right,

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:18.239
<v Speaker 1>this is this is an old one, but I think

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a good one. The flint Stones and the Jetsons

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 1>take place at the exact same time. It's a good

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 1>one that the flint Stones are not prehistoric. They're actually

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>set in a post apocalyptic future. And it's say that

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make any sense, does it? The author, I think

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>this came from mental floss, points out why would some

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 1>cave people create record players with whatever they had on hand?

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>No one in prehistoric times knew what a record player was,

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 1>but if you were living in the post apocalyptic times,

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>you would want to be able to listen to records

0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 1>because they had already been invented, so you would figure

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>out how to make a bird put its beak on

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>a record and use that instead. Why do they celebrate

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Christmas in prehistoric times? Good question? Why DoD? Why does

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 1>the music and the flint Stones any popular music is

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 1>always like fifties, like English British invasion type of I

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 1>forgot about that. Twitch twitch um. Why do they have

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>a banking system? Yeah, yeah, that's fairly complex. It is

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 1>why are these animals talking, Well, that's just weird. Yeah,

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you can like place that at

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 1>the feet of George Jetson. The The thing about the

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Jetsons though, is supposedly they are living up in uh

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>it's not cloud City's orbit City, um, which is supposedly

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:49.279
<v Speaker 1>built in the clouds above a small line, which is

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 1>where the flint Stones live below the small line. And

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:55.440
<v Speaker 1>allegedly the thing that divides them really more than anything

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:59.839
<v Speaker 1>is income. Yeah, that the Jetsons are wealthy and part

0:34:59.880 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>of the ones that can survive and live up in

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>the clean air. The flint Stones are part that have

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:08.319
<v Speaker 1>to scrape by with whatever they can find back here

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:11.800
<v Speaker 1>on Earth. Well, and that George and Fred mirror one another,

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 1>and that Fred labors at this uh, I mean, I

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 1>don't even know what you call that, like a a

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Corey yeah with Mr Slate um, whereas George works at

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:25.360
<v Speaker 1>spacely rockets and assess in this article works for a

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:28.240
<v Speaker 1>total of about nine hours a week. And then robots

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and computers handle everything else. That's supposedly how our life

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 1>is supposed to be right now, but we're not doing

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 1>it right really. Yeah, And now robots are just stealing

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 1>everyone's job. But we don't have anything to show for

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>it except for joblessness, but the bad kind. Right. Um.

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:49.760
<v Speaker 1>There was a movie called The Jetson's Meet the flint Stones,

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 1>and in that very movie, George Jetson visits the past

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.919
<v Speaker 1>and has a little kind of a throwaway comment when

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>he sees green grass and he says that it's something

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 1>he remembers from ancient history. Right, so that one kind

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:07.399
<v Speaker 1>of undermines the whole idea. Oh, I don't know. Well,

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 1>if he's saying that he from ancient history, oh I

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>see that part. Yeah, like there was an apocalypse and

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 1>there was no grass. But if he visits the past,

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:20.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. This is falling apart where we talk

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.720
<v Speaker 1>about it. It It undermines that one. I'm really great Kazoo?

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:27.920
<v Speaker 1>What was up with that guy? Yeah? Well this is

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>where stuff you should know is evolved. To remember the

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Great Kazoo? What was up with that guy? The whole

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 1>Christmas thing is weird to me that the flint Stones

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>would celebrate Christmas when they were clearly supposedly before the

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>birth of Christ as being in prehistoric times. And no,

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't make any sense. There's a lot of stuff.

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 1>The flint Stones didn't make sense about um, how about

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the Scooby Doo and I thought this was pretty great, uh,

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 1>and not Scooby Doo. See, this is the difference between

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:02.879
<v Speaker 1>a good fan theory and a bad one. Bad one.

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Scooby and Shaggy are always stoned because look, they're bumbling,

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 1>and they're always hungry for Scooby Snacks, for Scooby snacks.

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Bad fan theory, good fan theory. Scooby Doo takes place

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 1>after the world economy has shattered, right, that's great. Yeah,

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot to it, right. Yeah. So the

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:27.359
<v Speaker 1>idea is that these guys are driving around and if

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 1>you really look at the places that they visit, everything's

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>abandoned and run down, always like abandoned amusement park, abandoned

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:39.879
<v Speaker 1>ski resort, abandoned everything. Um. And not only are these

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 1>places abandoned there, they're populated by people who are squatting

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:50.240
<v Speaker 1>basically in these abandoned places. They live in the abandoned place,

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 1>and um, the bad guys are and they have no

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 1>means to support themselves other than by carrying out these weird,

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:04.400
<v Speaker 1>veiled crimes that they try to dress up as something

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 1>other world they which suggests that their geniuses so very

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:14.360
<v Speaker 1>very smart people living in squalor and are jobless. Yeah,

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 1>was this cracked? Yeah? So it says that, uh, out

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>of the twenty seven villains in the original UM Scooby Doo,

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Where Are You Run, twenty three of the twenty seven

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 1>are motivated by monetary gain via theft, smuggling, or land speculation. Uh.

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:35.399
<v Speaker 1>And like you said, if these people are geniuses, why

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 1>are they you know, like I'm gonna squat in this

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 1>abandoned mansion so I can gain ownership of it. It's

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 1>all very strange. Yeah. And they point out that the

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:48.920
<v Speaker 1>talents that these people have are UM indicate a very

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:55.719
<v Speaker 1>wide variety of UM specific schooling. Right. Yeah, two were

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 1>PhD s. Two or three were PhD s. Two are lawyers,

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:02.239
<v Speaker 1>one had an ability to produce forged paintings, one could

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 1>repair boats, one was a magician, the stuntman. So these

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:11.280
<v Speaker 1>are highly skilled, highly specialized UM professions that these people

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:15.239
<v Speaker 1>are trained in or capable of doing. But yet they're

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>out of work and they're pulling off these very elaborate

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>schemes rather than just having a job in their profession. Yeah,

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and even Scooby doo, Like when they go into a

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 1>nice vacation spot, it's it's run down and abandoned. It's

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 1>like Soviet level vacation spot. Yeah, pretty much. So I

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:36.880
<v Speaker 1>thought this was a great one. At the very least

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 1>they had some reason to not just have it be

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 1>like normal society that they were living in and like

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:44.680
<v Speaker 1>they would you know, like when you go back and

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 1>look at them that they were weird. Yeah, weird settings

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 1>for shows really sparsely populated because it's anime, there's no

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:53.839
<v Speaker 1>reason to do that. Yeah, I could see if you're like, wait,

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:55.759
<v Speaker 1>not much of a budget, so we got to go

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 1>shoot at this abandoned musement park. But they like if

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 1>they or at a restaurant, they're almost invariably the only

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:05.759
<v Speaker 1>people there. Have you ever noticed that? It's like a

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 1>really empty series. It's cool. It makes it a little

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>more haunting. I like it. Are you ready for the

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:14.279
<v Speaker 1>last one? All right? I think we've waited well long enough.

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:20.320
<v Speaker 1>This one is based on the television hospital procedural drama

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Saying Elsewhere, right, which, uh, Saying Elsewhere? If you watched it,

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 1>or even if you didn't, and you just are a

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:30.720
<v Speaker 1>fan of like famous endings of TV series Saying Elsewhere

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:34.479
<v Speaker 1>was very famous for its ending in that UM also

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 1>famous for having a bunch of like big stars earlier

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:41.719
<v Speaker 1>in their careers. Yeah, Howie Mandel, Denzel, uh At Begley, Yeah,

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 1>begs a lot of other people, UM, but it very

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:49.320
<v Speaker 1>famously ended with UM. At the very end, the uh

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 1>showed a shot at the hospital with the snow falling

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:54.799
<v Speaker 1>UM and then you pull back and you realize that

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>that was actually a snow globe held by a boy, right,

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of mind blowing. He's like, oh my god,

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 1>because again this is like if you watched Eer or

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 1>anything Scrubs, what any normal show about hospital life? And

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:14.760
<v Speaker 1>it's about hospital life. That's what st Elsewhere was about.

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:17.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, it was weird and quirky, but it was

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 1>it was about a hospital. So the idea of drama

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 1>that the last scene of I think six seasons, yes,

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:28.959
<v Speaker 1>six years, a hundred and thirty seven episodes about life

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:31.959
<v Speaker 1>at a hospital and the characters that inhabited and worked

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 1>at this hospital, the hospitals in a snow globe. This

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 1>is totally out of left field, right, make it even

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 1>weirder in Walks, who had up to this point been

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the director of surgery. I think, um, Donald Westfall, he's

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:53.800
<v Speaker 1>the medical director of st Elsewhere. He walks in. He's

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 1>clearly not a doctor. He's dressed, he's not dressed like

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 1>one construction guy. Yeah, the way he's talking, he's super

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:01.880
<v Speaker 1>like blue collar. All of a sudden, and he walks

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:04.800
<v Speaker 1>into the room where the boy holding the snow globe,

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 1>whose name we will find out is Tommy Westfall. Um,

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:12.319
<v Speaker 1>he is Donald Westfall's son in the series Stand Elsewhere. Yeah,

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 1>he had been on the show, but he was never

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>like a big character, and he he had autism. And uh.

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 1>In walks Donald Westfall, who's now a construction worker, and

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 1>says he's talking to his own father. He's like, I

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:25.399
<v Speaker 1>don't get it, Pops. He just sits around and looks

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:27.359
<v Speaker 1>at that snow globe all day. I wonder what he's

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:33.319
<v Speaker 1>thinking in his head, which suggests pretty strongly. Yet everything

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 1>about Saying Elsewhere all hundred and thirty seven episodes took

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 1>place in the mind of Tommy Westfall, this boy with

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:45.839
<v Speaker 1>autism who's sitting there staring at his snow globe. Yeah,

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:48.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, in fact, it's it's really it was even

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:50.320
<v Speaker 1>more on the nose than that, he actually says, I

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:53.799
<v Speaker 1>don't understand this autism thing, Bob. He's my son. I

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 1>talked to him. I don't even know if he can

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:57.880
<v Speaker 1>hear me. He sits there all day long in his

0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 1>own world, staring at that toy. What's he thinking about?

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Like they didn't need to say all that. They should

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:07.839
<v Speaker 1>have just to me, showed that and showed him coming

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 1>in as a construction guy and maybe just looked longingly

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:15.360
<v Speaker 1>at the sun. But he's kind of like, you get it. Everyone,

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 1>So America is sitting there like what. At the time,

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 1>this is what nineteen eighty eight, I think when it

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>went off, the was just like what just happened? That's

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:32.440
<v Speaker 1>really weird. But then in two thousand two it started

0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 1>to get even weirder, right because there's a TV writer

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 1>named Dwayne McDuffie, and he wrote a post called six

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Degrees of Staining Elsewhere, and he points out, wait, everybody,

0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 1>if all of stane elsewhere, it took place just in

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:51.479
<v Speaker 1>Tommy west Fall's mind, And then that means that there's

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 1>a significant amount of NBC shows that also are just

0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 1>in Tommy west Fall's mind. It's come to be called

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:04.360
<v Speaker 1>the Tommy west Fall hypothesis or the Tommy Westfall universe multiverse. Okay,

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:08.279
<v Speaker 1>and uh, it just spreads and spreads and spreads. And

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 1>there's a really good this paste article called Tommy's World.

0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:15.120
<v Speaker 1>The TV legacy of St. Elsewhere's Tommy Westfall Universe is

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:20.360
<v Speaker 1>pretty pretty much the definitive outside post on it, and um,

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:24.760
<v Speaker 1>it lays out a pretty good thread of how shows

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 1>are connected, and since they're connected, that means that they're

0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:31.960
<v Speaker 1>all taking place in the mind of this boy with autism,

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Tommy Westfall. Right, and it goes a little something like this,

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Uh the Doctor some of the doctors from St. Elsewhere

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:42.280
<v Speaker 1>went to Cheers one time, Okay, so that means Cheers

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:46.760
<v Speaker 1>is in Tommy Westfall's mind. Uh. Frazier was a spinoff

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 1>of Cheers. Check. That means Frasier isn't real. Yeah, you're

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 1>getting this. We don't need to say that after each one,

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 1>do we. I think it really drives the point home.

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 1>If the John Larroquette show, um, which was actually pretty good.

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:01.799
<v Speaker 1>John Larkett is great and that show was very underrated,

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 1>but the lead character played by John Larriaicette was John Hemingway. Um,

0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:10.840
<v Speaker 1>he called in one time on Frasier's talk show on

0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Fraser he was one of the Collins as that character.

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:19.399
<v Speaker 1>So now John Lara Catt's universe is in Tommy west

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Fall's mind. That's right. So on the John larric Uette

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 1>show itself, they mentioned Yo Yo Dine as a company

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:32.759
<v Speaker 1>um a tech company, and in Star Trek, Yo Yo

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:38.799
<v Speaker 1>Dine uh made technology used by the Enterprise crew. Yo

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Yo Dine right right, Yo You're dying, So that means

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Star Trek is in Tommy west Fall's mind. That's right.

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Yo Yo Dine was also appears again in Angel the

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 1>TV Josh Wheeden's Angel um it was part of the

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I think he was a client of the law firm

0:45:57.120 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Wolfman Hart Angel okay, and then wolf him in Heart

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:08.720
<v Speaker 1>um was was representation to another tech company called Whalon Utani,

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:12.839
<v Speaker 1>which made tech on the TV show Firefly, things are

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.800
<v Speaker 1>getting deep now, right, so now Firefly is in Tommy

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:20.280
<v Speaker 1>west Fall's mind as well. Uh. Then Whitland Utahni ship

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:25.160
<v Speaker 1>was in a spaceship graveyard on the series in Britain,

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:28.799
<v Speaker 1>Red Dwarf Right and then Bring It Home and then

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 1>the Tartists is in the hangar bay of the ship.

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Red Dwarf on the show. So that means that Firefly,

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:43.319
<v Speaker 1>Red Dwarf, and then dr who are all in the

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:47.880
<v Speaker 1>mind of Tommy Westfall because all of them are connected

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 1>back to sing Elsewhere. And and as the author of

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 1>this paced article points out, this is a normal thread.

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:59.840
<v Speaker 1>It's spread to something like more than four hundred t

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:03.960
<v Speaker 1>V shows being implicated as being in the imagination of

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:06.959
<v Speaker 1>Tommy Westfall. Yeah. I think the last count I saw

0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 1>was four and nineteen shows. Um, which you know, if

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:13.880
<v Speaker 1>they just get one more than all of a sudden,

0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 1>it's a weed theory, right you know, Uh, pretty great.

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:19.839
<v Speaker 1>Tell him about John Munch though, he's like the all

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 1>star character from Tommy Westfall universe. All right. That was

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Belzer's character on Homicide Life on the Street and that

0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:30.240
<v Speaker 1>was apparently a spinoff from st Elsewhere. It was related

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 1>to it somehow, Yeah, I think so officially related. But

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:36.000
<v Speaker 1>then Munch was on a bunch of different shows. Yeah,

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:38.680
<v Speaker 1>like his character, not just the guy who played him,

0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 1>but he got he just popped up in different shows

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:44.400
<v Speaker 1>all over the place, not even necessarily just on NBC.

0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, he was on X Files and that was Fox,

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:51.760
<v Speaker 1>wasn't it. Uh, Law and order, he was on the wire, uh,

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and he was on thirty Rock, so much Munch is

0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 1>just sitting there since he was already connected to St. Elsewhere.

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Any show he pops up Bond, he's obviously in the

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 1>same universe as St. Elsewhere, which again is in Tommy

0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:08.560
<v Speaker 1>west Fall's mind. So most of the television in the

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:13.400
<v Speaker 1>United States come, you know, it doesn't exist except in

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:16.920
<v Speaker 1>the mind of a boy with autism who likes this

0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:21.520
<v Speaker 1>snow globe back in. I wonder how much of that

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:25.600
<v Speaker 1>was I mean, not pre planned, but zero from what

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I understand. Well, they clearly meant to show though that St.

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Elsewhere was a figment of his imagination, but I don't

0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:38.399
<v Speaker 1>think they even stopped and thought, oh that, you know, wow. Well,

0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:40.719
<v Speaker 1>and then most of that stuff came after St. Elsewhere too,

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:43.920
<v Speaker 1>So I wonder then if someone kind of ran with it,

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 1>like if there's this inside Cabal and Hollywood and the

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:50.080
<v Speaker 1>w g A where people are trying to like, I'm

0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 1>sure try these things together. So it's like putting a

0:48:52.080 --> 0:49:01.879
<v Speaker 1>Wilhelm screaming yeah, which we did incorrectly. We tried, tried Jerry, well, yeah,

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:04.360
<v Speaker 1>that was that was just that was in s Y

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 1>S k jam Uh you got anything else? No, sir, Well,

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:11.800
<v Speaker 1>if you want to know more about TV fan theories,

0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:14.839
<v Speaker 1>you can go find him on the internet. Send one

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:17.120
<v Speaker 1>in though, if you have one that we didn't talk about. Yeah,

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 1>a good one though we defined what a fan theory is. Okay,

0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:25.879
<v Speaker 1>so a good one. Yeah, and nothing from lost Yeah, yeah,

0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I just don't bother if you already said all that stuff.

0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:31.120
<v Speaker 1>So since I said I already said all that stuff,

0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:36.400
<v Speaker 1>it's time for listener mail. I'm gonna call this hidden Whiskey.

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Remember our live show in Vancouver we talked about the

0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Canadian Club had a very special promo in the eighties

0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:45.160
<v Speaker 1>where they hit cases of whiskey all over the world

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:49.680
<v Speaker 1>like a big scavenger hunt, and not all of that

0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:55.000
<v Speaker 1>whiskey was found. Remember that? Yeah? I remember. So this guy,

0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Chris ort Loft, writes in about that. He said one

0:49:57.400 --> 0:49:59.920
<v Speaker 1>of them was hidden in Lake Flats in New York

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:02.839
<v Speaker 1>year before the nineteen eighty Olympics and supposedly was never

0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:06.799
<v Speaker 1>found and a few years ago, more than three decades later,

0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:10.799
<v Speaker 1>my mother picked up the trail when she discovered that

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 1>it was possibly still out there. I love it. This

0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:17.439
<v Speaker 1>guy's mom was like what fre you whiskey? I think

0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:19.640
<v Speaker 1>she was just like it sounds like an adventure, you know,

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:22.680
<v Speaker 1>just kidding? Uh where you know? Maybe she wanted the

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 1>free whiskey too. Um. A fan of cryptic crossword puzzles,

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:29.759
<v Speaker 1>word games, and snowshoeing, the allure was too much for

0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:31.880
<v Speaker 1>her to pass up. Well, there you have it, plus

0:50:31.880 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 1>you really liked whiskey. She tracked down a man in

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Connecticut who had previously searched for it, spoke with customer

0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:39.560
<v Speaker 1>service at Canadian Club even and with a couple of

0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:42.560
<v Speaker 1>other leads. She spent months turning over the clues, checking

0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:45.319
<v Speaker 1>current and historical maps, and hiking through the woods and

0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:49.960
<v Speaker 1>fields around Lake Placid. I love this guy's mom. Yeah. Um.

0:50:50.000 --> 0:50:51.799
<v Speaker 1>I sat down with her a few times with my

0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:54.680
<v Speaker 1>thinking cap on in hopes of unraveling the mystery, as

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:56.959
<v Speaker 1>did many of her friends and relatives. We have lots

0:50:56.960 --> 0:50:59.719
<v Speaker 1>of research and speculation amassed as a result, and I

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:01.400
<v Speaker 1>was like kind of nervous reading this. I was like,

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:04.560
<v Speaker 1>she found it, she didn't find it. Um. Sadly, after

0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:06.440
<v Speaker 1>all the effort and intrigue, we still have no idea

0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:08.480
<v Speaker 1>where it is. Maybe some kids took it years ago.

0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Could be completely buried by leaves and twigs by now,

0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:13.560
<v Speaker 1>or maybe it's still waiting to be found and someone

0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:15.839
<v Speaker 1>else can correct the case, so to speak. Blame it

0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:18.960
<v Speaker 1>on leaves and twigs. Uh, if you were any listeners,

0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:21.600
<v Speaker 1>want a chance of some by now vintage Canadian whiskey

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:24.040
<v Speaker 1>though for the very least, and Enriching walked through the

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Christine Northern New York Wilderness. The clues as originally printed

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 1>in the cc AD or as follows, and then he

0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:33.600
<v Speaker 1>gave them to me, so you can just look that

0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:39.359
<v Speaker 1>up on the internet. They're out there. It's really love yourself. Well,

0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean I can't read them all. It's get out

0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:45.839
<v Speaker 1>your decoder pins. Happy hunting, and do share one with

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 1>me if you find it. That is from Chris or Law.

0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Thanks or Laft. Will you appreciate that you have the

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:53.440
<v Speaker 1>last name of a person who's only called by their

0:51:53.520 --> 0:51:56.719
<v Speaker 1>last name. And Mrs ort Law for at the very

0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:58.359
<v Speaker 1>least your mom. I don't know if that's her name,

0:51:58.600 --> 0:52:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Madame Madam Mortlaw like that. It's a great explorer and

0:52:03.160 --> 0:52:07.839
<v Speaker 1>adventure that's how she shelf forever be known in Yeah,

0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:11.520
<v Speaker 1>well thanks Laf and Madam ort Laff. If you want

0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:13.120
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