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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from house Stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark.

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Speaker 1: I almost forgot who i was for a second. There's

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Speaker 1: Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Yeah, there's Jerry or is she

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Speaker 1: really there? I don't even know anymore because it just

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Speaker 1: occurred to me. We're doing a show on uh TV

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Speaker 1: show fan Theories, and we have our own little fan

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Speaker 1: theory here that Jerry doesn't exist. Yeah, that's true. That's

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Speaker 1: a fan theory which is sort of a common thread.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of these is either like, oh they

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Speaker 1: were really dead or you know, or they didn't exist

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Speaker 1: to begin with, right, and so we've heard from people

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Speaker 1: for years. I think that Jerry's made up. I love it, Yes,

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Speaker 1: because they're right. We're we're not saying no, actually, Jerry

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Speaker 1: totally real. Anyway, I'm looking at it right now. So

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Speaker 1: I was going through the internet looking for think pieces

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Speaker 1: essays on why people come up with fan theories or

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Speaker 1: what about fan theories make them, you know, make shows better.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't find anything. No, I think the answer is obvious.

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Speaker 1: I think that's why I couldn't find anything. Too. People

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Speaker 1: just have time on their hands. That's not what I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say. I was gonna say that it takes

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Speaker 1: something that's already pretty enjoyable and adds entirely new dimensions

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Speaker 1: in depth to it. It takes something familiar and you

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Speaker 1: can go back and rewatch it through different lens now

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Speaker 1: and you have time on your hands. Right, It's definitely

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Speaker 1: not something that super busy people do, you know. No,

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Speaker 1: And then I also was like, maybe I should just

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Speaker 1: calm down. We don't have to explain everything. We can

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Speaker 1: just have fun sharing fan theories. That's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: It's like a summer break one. Yeah, this feels like

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Speaker 1: one of those. I'm we're both drunk, sure, pretty drunk.

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding kids out there, we're just joking. Should

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Speaker 1: we just get right into these? Yes? Some of these

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Speaker 1: are gonna be shorter, others are going to be a

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Speaker 1: little longer, and we're just gonna kind of jump around. Right.

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Speaker 1: Should we start with the Granddaddy or end with the Granddaddy? Uh? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's the Granddaddy to you Uma by the wall? No?

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Speaker 1: Do you like that one though? Yeah? And I thought

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Speaker 1: maybe if I said it, Yeah, I think we'll start

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Speaker 1: with say, by the Bell. I don't know why. I

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Speaker 1: thought if I said it, really only I would know

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Speaker 1: what you were saying. Um, we'll start with say by

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Speaker 1: the bell, we'll finish with one that I know you're

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Speaker 1: talking about. Okay, cool, that's very um click baity, I know,

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Speaker 1: but so one you won't believe the last one. One

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Speaker 1: of the things that um is really hard to do

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Speaker 1: when it comes up when you when it comes to

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Speaker 1: fan theories, we should say, I guess we should define.

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Speaker 1: A fan theory is basically, it's where somebody who likes

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Speaker 1: the show says, hey, you know this show that you

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Speaker 1: think means this or is about all this, It's actually

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Speaker 1: this is what's going on almost all the time. It's

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Speaker 1: just somebody's idea. But the part of the backbone of

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Speaker 1: a fan theory is that it has to hold up

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Speaker 1: and just about every circumstance. Yeah, and I'll get one

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Speaker 1: out of the way quickly. Is a bad example, because

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Speaker 1: to me, a bad fan theory is uh murder. She

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Speaker 1: wrote she was really a serial killer because you know,

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Speaker 1: you never found out what happened to her husband and

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Speaker 1: all these people are dying around her. I like that one, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's just too easy. It's not like to me.

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Speaker 1: A good fan theory is one you can say, and

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Speaker 1: About this? So I know what you mean, and yes

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Speaker 1: you a fan theory doesn't have to do there else

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Speaker 1: it's just some schmo saying something somewhere. But murder, she wrote,

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Speaker 1: but the point that I've seen here there Number one

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Speaker 1: is Jessica Fletcher is a murder author of murder mystery authoress,

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Speaker 1: and she murders go follow her everywhere she goes. Right,

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Speaker 1: think about the last time you stumbled upon a murder, Well,

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Speaker 1: that's just called TV. Okay, So that's one thing hold on.

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Speaker 1: And then secondly, even when she travels, she stumbles upon

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Speaker 1: new murders. But more to the point, in her little

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Speaker 1: town of Cabot Cove, a population, a significant number of

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Speaker 1: the say two hundred seventy four episodes of murder she wrote,

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Speaker 1: It's not like she's a detective. Like you can't say it. Boy,

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Speaker 1: that at TV show either, so that probably something to

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Speaker 1: year old person. It's even better now, really, Yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: rewatching it? Oh yeah, it's on Netflix and I think prime.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, it's good. Check it out. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying like, oh, murder, she wrote good on my hipster.

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Speaker 1: I've been watching Murder, she wrote for years and years now, Pal, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know have a beard. No, but but hold on,

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Speaker 1: I think I want to extend this for a second.

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Speaker 1: You raised a very good point, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: I defended murder. She wrote with that same point that

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Speaker 1: a fan theory has to have meat on its bones.

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Speaker 1: It can't be an offhanded thing. It's proved what you

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Speaker 1: just said. Prove why Jessica Fletcher is a serial killer.

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Speaker 1: Well that's that. They there's a couple of them. It's

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Speaker 1: a little thin, granted, but there's something to back it up,

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Speaker 1: difficult to pinpoint the origin of fan theories. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: like who did this first? Yeah, who came up with

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Speaker 1: going to talk about the saved by the Bell fan theory.

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Speaker 1: And people are just like nervous with anticipation about that one. Now,

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Speaker 1: a person. A writer on the website Cracked Cracks website,

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Speaker 1: a writer named um Man I lost their name Logan Trent,

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Speaker 1: in two thousand twelve wrote a post called Saved by

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Speaker 1: always been screeched alright, So what's the big reveal? What's

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Speaker 1: the fan theory? So the fan theory is that Saved

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Speaker 1: Bloom County were my two biggies. I was never into

420
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: bloom County. Man I loved it. Um, I did love Garfield, though,

421
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: I mean it was a little bloom County is a

422
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: little more advanced, I think, and it's humor, um, which

423
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: I still got. But Garfield was like kind of perfect

424
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 1: for a ten year old Chuck. It was perfect. So

425
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: what you're talking about is, in October of n Jim Davis,

426
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: the creative, Garfield said, you know what I'm gonna do.

427
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put out six strips in a row that

428
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: are not funny. No, they're actually kind of unsightling. Yeah,

429
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: very bleak. And if you go and look at these

430
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: strips you can find him online obviously. Um, it's Garfield

431
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: alone in an abandoned house, and it's really heavy. Yes,

432
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: Garfield wakes up in the first strip and no one's around,

433
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: and he's starting to get a little panicked, and then

434
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: it just kind of continues on and and his panic

435
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: continues to build over the course of the six strips.

436
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: Um and finally in the last one, I believe, Uh,

437
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: he wakes up and John and Odie are there and

438
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: everything's back to normally so happy. But leading up to

439
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 1: that point in strip like three four five, it's it's

440
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: getting a little freaky and um again, like you said,

441
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: there's nothing funny about it's not It wasn't intended to

442
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: be funny. It was intended to scare. And the idea

443
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: is is that what we're seeing in these six strips

444
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: are the actual reality of Garfield and that everything else.

445
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: He finally manages to go back to his basically dying

446
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: fee her dream that featured John and Odi. Yeah, but

447
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: well they disappear though in that strip too at the end. Yeah,

448
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: Like they appear and then like he goes to give

449
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: him food and then they like disappear and he's alone

450
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: again at the end of that sixth trip. Yeah, okay,

451
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: so he's hallucinated them and then is alone and abandoned.

452
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: So that's why. Okay, Right, So then that backs up

453
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: that whole idea that, yeah, that they're just a hallucination,

454
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: because they're demonstrated as an hallucination in that sixth series trip. Yeah,

455
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: and he's six strip series. That was his intent was

456
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: very much to do something sad and different, and I

457
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: think he heard quite a bit from the fans like

458
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 1: what is going on? And then apparently he kind of

459
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: laughed at the idea when someone said, hey, uh, you

460
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: realize what people think that this is all a big hallucination,

461
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: like every other strip you've drawn as a hallucination of

462
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: this dying cat. And he laughed about it, but like

463
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: what what else? What were people supposed to think? That?

464
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 1: He just got really heavy and and yourd for six strips.

465
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: And I think the other thing that was so off

466
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: putting about it too, is it resolves or there there

467
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: is no resolution? I think on that that seventh day,

468
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: the Sunday one just picks up like everything is totally normal,

469
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: and it never which makes it even more unsettling. And

470
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: then Chuck, there's a there's a clear I don't know

471
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: if it was a reference to it or coincidence or whatever,

472
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: but there's this UM animated movie called Allegro Non Tropo

473
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: and there's a segment in it, um what's the name

474
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: of the segment Valves triast about a cat that turns

475
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 1: out to be a ghost cat. Have you seen it?

476
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: It's very good haunting, but it's sort of parallels to

477
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: Scarfield story very much. Whether or not was purposeful, we

478
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: don't know that part right or did Jim Davis like

479
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: discount that too. I've never heard whether or not he

480
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: discounts that. Yeah, but that's definitely go check out the

481
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: Garfields strips to just look up like Garfield dead or

482
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: dying or whatever and it'll bring him up. But um,

483
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: also just I'm sure it's on YouTube. Just look up

484
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: valves v A L S E treats t R I

485
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: S t E and uh, it will, it'll get to you.

486
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: It's very sad. Uh And you should plug your favorite thing,

487
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: uh ever, which is Garfield without Garfield. Oh yeah, that's great. Yeah,

488
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: which in that case it was John who was just

489
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: crazy and hallucinating, right, Yeah, you could make a pretty

490
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: good case that John was out of his mind when

491
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: you take Garfield out of any given strip and it's

492
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: just John like, yeah, shouting out loud, like he's just

493
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: like like putting his head down on the counter. Good stuff. Yeah,

494
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: I forgot about that. You want to take a break. Yeah,

495
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: we'll take a break and go through another couple of

496
00:29:48,400 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: quickies and then the big Daddy. M all right, did

497
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: you see this Breaking Bad one? Yeah? Um, this one

498
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: has spoilers for Breaking Bad and a little bit of

499
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: The Walking Dead, So if you haven't seen that, tune out.

500
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: But there is a theory that's actually I think kind

501
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: of cool because I love both shows Breaking Bad and

502
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: Walking Dead. That the blue meth from Breaking Bad is

503
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: what caused the the zombie outbreak in the Walking Dead. Yeah,

504
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: and that's bad. Yeah, but I mean it seems like

505
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: they're totally unconnected until you start digging in there. That's

506
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: right when you look at season one, the character of

507
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: Glenn Hey shout out to Stephen Young, he's a listen

508
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: of stuff you should know. Yeah, what up? Dog? Hopefully

509
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: still is not anymore. Uh. He drives a red Dodge

510
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: Challenger in that first season UM, which looks kind of

511
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: like Walter White's car that he eventually ends up with,

512
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: and then in Breaking Bad, when Walter White returns that Dodge,

513
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: he takes it back and the manager's uh the dealership's

514
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: general manager is named Glenn Ohhen the best one is

515
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: it comes in season two if you ask me, Yeah,

516
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: I agree, you take it buddy. Uh? Because why you

517
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: didn't watch either one of these shows? No? No, I did. Okay,

518
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: I saw all Breaking Bad and I've seen I can't

519
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: remember how far it seemed pretty far into um Walking Dead.

520
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm behind him Walking Dead by like one season. I

521
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: need to go back catch up. Yeah, Anyway, season two,

522
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: Darryl played by Norman Rita's is um trying to take

523
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: the fever down on tea dog another character. Right, why's

524
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: it funny? Uh So his brother Merle, he is um.

525
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: He is like this bag of drugs basically, so he

526
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: looks through the bag, see faces, there's anything that can

527
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: help bring the fever down, and there is that blue

528
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: crystal meth from Breaking Bad in his bag. So that's

529
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: in a good little hint ye. And then before the

530
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: Zombie Apocalypse, Merle, his brother h was actually a drug

531
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: dealer and he described in one episode his supplier was

532
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: quote a jankie, little white guy who threatened him with

533
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: a handgun and said I'm gonna kill you, b word,

534
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: And that very much sounds like uh Jesse Pinkman. Yeah.

535
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: The only way he could have gotten it across more

536
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: is if he'd mentioned fat stacks or something, right, that

537
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: would have been like super on the nose. Though, So

538
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: that's that's a pretty fun theory. It is obviously meth

539
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: equals death everybody, that's right, especially Blue. Well, the one

540
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: thing I didn't get was like, what are like all

541
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: those people on meth? But then I thought, no, maybe

542
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: just a certain amount and then they infected other people

543
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: with their zombie juice. Uh okay, I got one. All right,

544
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 1: this is this is an old one, but I think

545
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: it's a good one. The flint Stones and the Jetsons

546
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: take place at the exact same time. It's a good

547
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: one that the flint Stones are not prehistoric. They're actually

548
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: set in a post apocalyptic future. And it's say that

549
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense, does it? The author, I think

550
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: this came from mental floss, points out why would some

551
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: cave people create record players with whatever they had on hand?

552
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: No one in prehistoric times knew what a record player was,

553
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: but if you were living in the post apocalyptic times,

554
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: you would want to be able to listen to records

555
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: because they had already been invented, so you would figure

556
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: out how to make a bird put its beak on

557
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: a record and use that instead. Why do they celebrate

558
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: Christmas in prehistoric times? Good question? Why DoD? Why does

559
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: the music and the flint Stones any popular music is

560
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: always like fifties, like English British invasion type of I

561
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: forgot about that. Twitch twitch um. Why do they have

562
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: a banking system? Yeah, yeah, that's fairly complex. It is

563
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: why are these animals talking, Well, that's just weird. Yeah,

564
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can like place that at

565
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: the feet of George Jetson. The The thing about the

566
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: Jetsons though, is supposedly they are living up in uh

567
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: it's not cloud City's orbit City, um, which is supposedly

568
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: built in the clouds above a small line, which is

569
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: where the flint Stones live below the small line. And

570
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: allegedly the thing that divides them really more than anything

571
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: is income. Yeah, that the Jetsons are wealthy and part

572
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: of the ones that can survive and live up in

573
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: the clean air. The flint Stones are part that have

574
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: to scrape by with whatever they can find back here

575
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: on Earth. Well, and that George and Fred mirror one another,

576
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: and that Fred labors at this uh, I mean, I

577
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: don't even know what you call that, like a a

578
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: Corey yeah with Mr Slate um, whereas George works at

579
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: spacely rockets and assess in this article works for a

580
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: total of about nine hours a week. And then robots

581
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: and computers handle everything else. That's supposedly how our life

582
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: is supposed to be right now, but we're not doing

583
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: it right really. Yeah, And now robots are just stealing

584
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: everyone's job. But we don't have anything to show for

585
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: it except for joblessness, but the bad kind. Right. Um.

586
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 1: There was a movie called The Jetson's Meet the flint Stones,

587
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: and in that very movie, George Jetson visits the past

588
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 1: and has a little kind of a throwaway comment when

589
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: he sees green grass and he says that it's something

590
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: he remembers from ancient history. Right, so that one kind

591
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: of undermines the whole idea. Oh, I don't know. Well,

592
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: if he's saying that he from ancient history, oh I

593
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: see that part. Yeah, like there was an apocalypse and

594
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: there was no grass. But if he visits the past,

595
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is falling apart where we talk

596
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: about it. It It undermines that one. I'm really great Kazoo?

597
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: What was up with that guy? Yeah? Well this is

598
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: where stuff you should know is evolved. To remember the

599
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: Great Kazoo? What was up with that guy? The whole

600
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: Christmas thing is weird to me that the flint Stones

601
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: would celebrate Christmas when they were clearly supposedly before the

602
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: birth of Christ as being in prehistoric times. And no,

603
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense. There's a lot of stuff.

604
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: The flint Stones didn't make sense about um, how about

605
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: the Scooby Doo and I thought this was pretty great, uh,

606
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: and not Scooby Doo. See, this is the difference between

607
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: a good fan theory and a bad one. Bad one.

608
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: Scooby and Shaggy are always stoned because look, they're bumbling,

609
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: and they're always hungry for Scooby Snacks, for Scooby snacks.

610
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 1: Bad fan theory, good fan theory. Scooby Doo takes place

611
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: after the world economy has shattered, right, that's great. Yeah,

612
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: and there's a lot to it, right. Yeah. So the

613
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: idea is that these guys are driving around and if

614
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: you really look at the places that they visit, everything's

615
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: abandoned and run down, always like abandoned amusement park, abandoned

616
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: ski resort, abandoned everything. Um. And not only are these

617
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: places abandoned there, they're populated by people who are squatting

618
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: basically in these abandoned places. They live in the abandoned place,

619
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: and um, the bad guys are and they have no

620
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: means to support themselves other than by carrying out these weird,

621
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: veiled crimes that they try to dress up as something

622
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: other world they which suggests that their geniuses so very

623
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: very smart people living in squalor and are jobless. Yeah,

624
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: was this cracked? Yeah? So it says that, uh, out

625
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: of the twenty seven villains in the original UM Scooby Doo,

626
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: Where Are You Run, twenty three of the twenty seven

627
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: are motivated by monetary gain via theft, smuggling, or land speculation. Uh.

628
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: And like you said, if these people are geniuses, why

629
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: are they you know, like I'm gonna squat in this

630
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: abandoned mansion so I can gain ownership of it. It's

631
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: all very strange. Yeah. And they point out that the

632
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: talents that these people have are UM indicate a very

633
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: wide variety of UM specific schooling. Right. Yeah, two were

634
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: PhD s. Two or three were PhD s. Two are lawyers,

635
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: one had an ability to produce forged paintings, one could

636
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: repair boats, one was a magician, the stuntman. So these

637
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 1: are highly skilled, highly specialized UM professions that these people

638
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: are trained in or capable of doing. But yet they're

639
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: out of work and they're pulling off these very elaborate

640
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: schemes rather than just having a job in their profession. Yeah,

641
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: and even Scooby doo, Like when they go into a

642
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: nice vacation spot, it's it's run down and abandoned. It's

643
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: like Soviet level vacation spot. Yeah, pretty much. So I

644
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: thought this was a great one. At the very least

645
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: they had some reason to not just have it be

646
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: like normal society that they were living in and like

647
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: they would you know, like when you go back and

648
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: look at them that they were weird. Yeah, weird settings

649
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: for shows really sparsely populated because it's anime, there's no

650
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: reason to do that. Yeah, I could see if you're like, wait,

651
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: not much of a budget, so we got to go

652
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: shoot at this abandoned musement park. But they like if

653
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: they or at a restaurant, they're almost invariably the only

654
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: people there. Have you ever noticed that? It's like a

655
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: really empty series. It's cool. It makes it a little

656
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: more haunting. I like it. Are you ready for the

657
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: last one? All right? I think we've waited well long enough.

658
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: This one is based on the television hospital procedural drama

659
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: Saying Elsewhere, right, which, uh, Saying Elsewhere? If you watched it,

660
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: or even if you didn't, and you just are a

661
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 1: fan of like famous endings of TV series Saying Elsewhere

662
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,479
Speaker 1: was very famous for its ending in that UM also

663
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: famous for having a bunch of like big stars earlier

664
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: in their careers. Yeah, Howie Mandel, Denzel, uh At Begley, Yeah,

665
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: begs a lot of other people, UM, but it very

666
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: famously ended with UM. At the very end, the uh

667
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: showed a shot at the hospital with the snow falling

668
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: UM and then you pull back and you realize that

669
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: that was actually a snow globe held by a boy, right,

670
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: and it's kind of mind blowing. He's like, oh my god,

671
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: because again this is like if you watched Eer or

672
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: anything Scrubs, what any normal show about hospital life? And

673
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: it's about hospital life. That's what st Elsewhere was about.

674
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: You know, it was weird and quirky, but it was

675
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: it was about a hospital. So the idea of drama

676
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: that the last scene of I think six seasons, yes,

677
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,959
Speaker 1: six years, a hundred and thirty seven episodes about life

678
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 1: at a hospital and the characters that inhabited and worked

679
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: at this hospital, the hospitals in a snow globe. This

680
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: is totally out of left field, right, make it even

681
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: weirder in Walks, who had up to this point been

682
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: the director of surgery. I think, um, Donald Westfall, he's

683
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: the medical director of st Elsewhere. He walks in. He's

684
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: clearly not a doctor. He's dressed, he's not dressed like

685
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: one construction guy. Yeah, the way he's talking, he's super

686
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: like blue collar. All of a sudden, and he walks

687
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: into the room where the boy holding the snow globe,

688
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: whose name we will find out is Tommy Westfall. Um,

689
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: he is Donald Westfall's son in the series Stand Elsewhere. Yeah,

690
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: he had been on the show, but he was never

691
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: like a big character, and he he had autism. And uh.

692
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: In walks Donald Westfall, who's now a construction worker, and

693
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: says he's talking to his own father. He's like, I

694
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: don't get it, Pops. He just sits around and looks

695
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: at that snow globe all day. I wonder what he's

696
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: thinking in his head, which suggests pretty strongly. Yet everything

697
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: about Saying Elsewhere all hundred and thirty seven episodes took

698
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: place in the mind of Tommy Westfall, this boy with

699
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: autism who's sitting there staring at his snow globe. Yeah,

700
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: I mean, in fact, it's it's really it was even

701
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: more on the nose than that, he actually says, I

702
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: don't understand this autism thing, Bob. He's my son. I

703
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: talked to him. I don't even know if he can

704
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: hear me. He sits there all day long in his

705
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: own world, staring at that toy. What's he thinking about?

706
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: Like they didn't need to say all that. They should

707
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: have just to me, showed that and showed him coming

708
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: in as a construction guy and maybe just looked longingly

709
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: at the sun. But he's kind of like, you get it. Everyone,

710
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: So America is sitting there like what. At the time,

711
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: this is what nineteen eighty eight, I think when it

712
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: went off, the was just like what just happened? That's

713
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: really weird. But then in two thousand two it started

714
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: to get even weirder, right because there's a TV writer

715
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: named Dwayne McDuffie, and he wrote a post called six

716
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: Degrees of Staining Elsewhere, and he points out, wait, everybody,

717
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: if all of stane elsewhere, it took place just in

718
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,479
Speaker 1: Tommy west Fall's mind, And then that means that there's

719
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: a significant amount of NBC shows that also are just

720
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: in Tommy west Fall's mind. It's come to be called

721
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: the Tommy west Fall hypothesis or the Tommy Westfall universe multiverse. Okay,

722
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: and uh, it just spreads and spreads and spreads. And

723
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: there's a really good this paste article called Tommy's World.

724
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: The TV legacy of St. Elsewhere's Tommy Westfall Universe is

725
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: pretty pretty much the definitive outside post on it, and um,

726
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 1: it lays out a pretty good thread of how shows

727
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: are connected, and since they're connected, that means that they're

728
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: all taking place in the mind of this boy with autism,

729
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: Tommy Westfall. Right, and it goes a little something like this,

730
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: Uh the Doctor some of the doctors from St. Elsewhere

731
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: went to Cheers one time, Okay, so that means Cheers

732
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 1: is in Tommy Westfall's mind. Uh. Frazier was a spinoff

733
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: of Cheers. Check. That means Frasier isn't real. Yeah, you're

734
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: getting this. We don't need to say that after each one,

735
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: do we. I think it really drives the point home.

736
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: If the John Larroquette show, um, which was actually pretty good.

737
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: John Larkett is great and that show was very underrated,

738
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: but the lead character played by John Larriaicette was John Hemingway. Um,

739
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: he called in one time on Frasier's talk show on

740
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: Fraser he was one of the Collins as that character.

741
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 1: So now John Lara Catt's universe is in Tommy west

742
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: Fall's mind. That's right. So on the John larric Uette

743
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: show itself, they mentioned Yo Yo Dine as a company

744
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: um a tech company, and in Star Trek, Yo Yo

745
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: Dine uh made technology used by the Enterprise crew. Yo

746
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 1: Yo Dine right right, Yo You're dying, So that means

747
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: Star Trek is in Tommy west Fall's mind. That's right.

748
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: Yo Yo Dine was also appears again in Angel the

749
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: TV Josh Wheeden's Angel um it was part of the

750
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: I think he was a client of the law firm

751
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: Wolfman Hart Angel okay, and then wolf him in Heart

752
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 1: um was was representation to another tech company called Whalon Utani,

753
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: which made tech on the TV show Firefly, things are

754
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: getting deep now, right, so now Firefly is in Tommy

755
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: west Fall's mind as well. Uh. Then Whitland Utahni ship

756
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: was in a spaceship graveyard on the series in Britain,

757
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: Red Dwarf Right and then Bring It Home and then

758
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: the Tartists is in the hangar bay of the ship.

759
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: Red Dwarf on the show. So that means that Firefly,

760
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: Red Dwarf, and then dr who are all in the

761
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: mind of Tommy Westfall because all of them are connected

762
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: back to sing Elsewhere. And and as the author of

763
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: this paced article points out, this is a normal thread.

764
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: It's spread to something like more than four hundred t

765
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: V shows being implicated as being in the imagination of

766
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,959
Speaker 1: Tommy Westfall. Yeah. I think the last count I saw

767
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: was four and nineteen shows. Um, which you know, if

768
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: they just get one more than all of a sudden,

769
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: it's a weed theory, right you know, Uh, pretty great.

770
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: Tell him about John Munch though, he's like the all

771
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: star character from Tommy Westfall universe. All right. That was

772
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: Belzer's character on Homicide Life on the Street and that

773
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 1: was apparently a spinoff from st Elsewhere. It was related

774
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: to it somehow, Yeah, I think so officially related. But

775
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: then Munch was on a bunch of different shows. Yeah,

776
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: like his character, not just the guy who played him,

777
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: but he got he just popped up in different shows

778
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: all over the place, not even necessarily just on NBC.

779
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was on X Files and that was Fox,

780
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 1: wasn't it. Uh, Law and order, he was on the wire, uh,

781
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: and he was on thirty Rock, so much Munch is

782
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: just sitting there since he was already connected to St. Elsewhere.

783
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: Any show he pops up Bond, he's obviously in the

784
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: same universe as St. Elsewhere, which again is in Tommy

785
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: west Fall's mind. So most of the television in the

786
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: United States come, you know, it doesn't exist except in

787
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: the mind of a boy with autism who likes this

788
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: snow globe back in. I wonder how much of that

789
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: was I mean, not pre planned, but zero from what

790
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: I understand. Well, they clearly meant to show though that St.

791
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: Elsewhere was a figment of his imagination, but I don't

792
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: think they even stopped and thought, oh that, you know, wow. Well,

793
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: and then most of that stuff came after St. Elsewhere too,

794
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: So I wonder then if someone kind of ran with it,

795
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: like if there's this inside Cabal and Hollywood and the

796
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: w g A where people are trying to like, I'm

797
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: sure try these things together. So it's like putting a

798
00:48:52,080 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: Wilhelm screaming yeah, which we did incorrectly. We tried, tried Jerry, well, yeah,

799
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: that was that was just that was in s Y

800
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: S k jam Uh you got anything else? No, sir, Well,

801
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: if you want to know more about TV fan theories,

802
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: you can go find him on the internet. Send one

803
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: in though, if you have one that we didn't talk about. Yeah,

804
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: a good one though we defined what a fan theory is. Okay,

805
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: so a good one. Yeah, and nothing from lost Yeah, yeah,

806
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: I just don't bother if you already said all that stuff.

807
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: So since I said I already said all that stuff,

808
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: it's time for listener mail. I'm gonna call this hidden Whiskey.

809
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: Remember our live show in Vancouver we talked about the

810
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: Canadian Club had a very special promo in the eighties

811
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: where they hit cases of whiskey all over the world

812
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: like a big scavenger hunt, and not all of that

813
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: whiskey was found. Remember that? Yeah? I remember. So this guy,

814
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: Chris ort Loft, writes in about that. He said one

815
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: of them was hidden in Lake Flats in New York

816
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: year before the nineteen eighty Olympics and supposedly was never

817
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: found and a few years ago, more than three decades later,

818
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: my mother picked up the trail when she discovered that

819
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: it was possibly still out there. I love it. This

820
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,439
Speaker 1: guy's mom was like what fre you whiskey? I think

821
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: she was just like it sounds like an adventure, you know,

822
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: just kidding? Uh where you know? Maybe she wanted the

823
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: free whiskey too. Um. A fan of cryptic crossword puzzles,

824
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: word games, and snowshoeing, the allure was too much for

825
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: her to pass up. Well, there you have it, plus

826
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: you really liked whiskey. She tracked down a man in

827
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: Connecticut who had previously searched for it, spoke with customer

828
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: service at Canadian Club even and with a couple of

829
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: other leads. She spent months turning over the clues, checking

830
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: current and historical maps, and hiking through the woods and

831
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: fields around Lake Placid. I love this guy's mom. Yeah. Um.

832
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: I sat down with her a few times with my

833
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: thinking cap on in hopes of unraveling the mystery, as

834
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,959
Speaker 1: did many of her friends and relatives. We have lots

835
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: of research and speculation amassed as a result, and I

836
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: was like kind of nervous reading this. I was like,

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