WEBVTT - 10ish Instances of People Doing Things Out Of Spite

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck and this is stuff you should know. And this

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<v Speaker 2>episode Chuck has made fun of, even though I took

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<v Speaker 2>pride in helping to assemble it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's fine. It's a top ten. We haven't done

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<v Speaker 1>those in forever. Yeah, it's always kind of a fun throwback,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seems like we never do ten with our

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<v Speaker 1>three x structure. Nine is probably a great number, but

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, let's see what happens. So, you know the old

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<v Speaker 2>saying cut off your nose to spite your face.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And I feel like we did this on an

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<v Speaker 1>internet roundup or something. Maybe it's unded really familiar the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Did it did?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Not to you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, As a matter of fact, it was all new

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<v Speaker 2>to me. But that doesn't mean we didn't do it already.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you would remember this one because it involves

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<v Speaker 1>self mutilation.

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<v Speaker 2>So just want to put out there that this actually

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<v Speaker 2>has nothing to do with that phrase. And I'll explain

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<v Speaker 2>why that phrase doesn't actually have anything to do with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, but I guess I should probably say that

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<v Speaker 2>we're starting this episode out in like the worst possible way,

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<v Speaker 2>with a really downer of a story that may or

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<v Speaker 2>may not have to do with Spie. So I say

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<v Speaker 2>we just go ahead and start that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. Yes, there is a book, and this is as

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<v Speaker 1>the story goes. The book in nineteen oh four called

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<v Speaker 1>A Dictionary of Saintly Women. The story is that Viking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, berserker raider types, came pillaging southward to the

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<v Speaker 1>British Isles at one point well not at one point

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<v Speaker 1>eight sixty seven CE specifically, and while they were doing

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<v Speaker 1>their berserkering and ravaging of the villages and things things,

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<v Speaker 1>there was obviously the kind of thing that would happen

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<v Speaker 1>would be assaults on people physically, sexually and otherwise. And

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<v Speaker 1>so when they went to a monastery in Scotland, the

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<v Speaker 1>Coldingham Monastery, the lead nun, Saint Aby the Younger, said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what we'll do. We want to keep our chastity

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<v Speaker 1>and our covenant to God. It's a big deal for

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<v Speaker 1>us nuns. We should cut off our noses to keep

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<v Speaker 1>that from happening, because they won't assault us then.

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<v Speaker 2>But not to spite our faces, to snite the vikings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not even to spite. I think. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>to protect themselves from sexual assault. Sure, I mean this

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<v Speaker 1>is all horrific.

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<v Speaker 2>It is horrific.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not saying like this is a laugh, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying no, no, no, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, back to the horrific story, Saint Aby said, and

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<v Speaker 2>she was in a saint at the time, but this

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<v Speaker 2>certainly helped her case. Later on, she said, come, nuns,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go sit around and talk. I have something to

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<v Speaker 2>say to you. Uh, to prevent ourselves from losing our

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<v Speaker 2>chest from being raped by these Vikings, We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>cut off our own noses. I'm going to cut off

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<v Speaker 2>my lip and maybe I'll inspire you to do the same.

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<v Speaker 2>And the rest of the sisters said, yes, let's do that,

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<v Speaker 2>and they did. And there's actually old like wood cuttings,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's at least one stained glass panel of this happening,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's gory, even as a wood cutting as gory.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And when the Vikings showed up, they found these nuns

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<v Speaker 2>missing their noses, bleeding, missing their lips, just in quite

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<v Speaker 2>a state. And they were like, we're just gonna move on.

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<v Speaker 2>To the next monastery and see what we find there.

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<v Speaker 2>The nuns, however, were not their lives were not spared,

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<v Speaker 2>were they.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it gets even worse because what the Vikings did

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<v Speaker 1>was burned the place down with them inside and killed

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<v Speaker 1>them all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But there's a different way of looking at this,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is that these nuns protected their chastity, which,

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<v Speaker 2>as you said, is like really really important. They're known

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<v Speaker 2>as the brides of Christ, and that's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>reasons why they're chased. Why they're meant to die virgins,

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<v Speaker 2>is because they have given themselves to Christ or to God.

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<v Speaker 2>So as long as they're chased and they die chase,

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<v Speaker 2>then they have fulfilled this covenant. Even if it's not

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<v Speaker 2>by their own will or decision that they lose their virginity.

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<v Speaker 2>If they lose it through force, it's still not quite

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<v Speaker 2>the same as dying chase. So they managed to come

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<v Speaker 2>out on top religiously speaking. So that's that story. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why it doesn't have anything to do with

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<v Speaker 2>cutting your nose up to spite your face is because

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<v Speaker 2>that phrase means that you are doing something in revenge

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<v Speaker 2>to somebody else or to harm somebody else, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>actually harming yourself much worse than you are them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they just burned them down.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't spite anybody, right, So that's a heck of

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<v Speaker 2>a way to kick off what was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>a semi lighthearted top ten list.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Oh wait, didn't it mean to spite your own face?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? So you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got you.

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<v Speaker 2>You see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just got confused.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like there's another saying that hating somebody

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<v Speaker 2>is like drinking poison and expecting them to die.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good one. It really gets the point across.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes you not want to hate or steal or

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<v Speaker 2>something about someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's really good. I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks a lot. I just made it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at you dropping nugs. All right, Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Henry Clay Frick because he was a Gilded Age I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about robber Baron, but he was at very

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<v Speaker 1>least a mogul, and along with Andrew Carnegie, they made

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<v Speaker 1>quite a lot of money together as partners in the

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<v Speaker 1>steel industry. That relationship went south and Carnegie got him

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<v Speaker 1>out of the picture, got Frick out of the picture,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, to the point where he was Carnegie

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<v Speaker 1>was sued and and Frick actually won a lawsuit and

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<v Speaker 1>one compensation and everything. But it wasn't like he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we're all even now. He hated Andrew Carnegie

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of his life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anytime, like Carnegie's companies, I can't remember which steel

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<v Speaker 2>company was he owned, but anytime there was like some

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<v Speaker 2>misstep or bad decision or business went awry, Frick would

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<v Speaker 2>send a note like chiding him or taunting him for

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<v Speaker 2>having made a terrible decision, like just constantly kept it up.

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<v Speaker 2>There was I think Carnegie built a mansion in New

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<v Speaker 2>York and Frick was like, oh, yeah, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>build an even bigger one right down the street, just

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<v Speaker 2>to show you up. Like would not let it go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, anything you can do, I can do

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<v Speaker 1>bigger and better. And so you would think at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of their lives they could just let buy guns

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<v Speaker 1>be by guns. And that's what Andrew Carnegie tried to

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<v Speaker 1>do when he was in failing health, said, can you

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<v Speaker 1>get in touch with my old partner Frick, mister Henry

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<v Speaker 1>Clay Frick, and tell him he's got a great name,

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<v Speaker 1>and tell him that I'd like to meet up with

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<v Speaker 1>him and patch this thing up before we're gone off

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<v Speaker 1>of this earth. And so they brought the letter he

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<v Speaker 1>dispatched as his personal secretary James Bridge to send this

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<v Speaker 1>to Frick personally, and Frick apparently bawled up the letter

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<v Speaker 1>and threw it back at him and said, tell him

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see him in hell where we are both going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, great, comeback.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll meet him in hell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. His other thing that he was said to have

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<v Speaker 2>said was not until he admits that I'm the Mary

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<v Speaker 2>and you're the Rhoda.

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<v Speaker 1>out there as far as quality stuff. But they have

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<v Speaker 1>Old Mary Tyler Moore. Or maybe that was on Max.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember, but anyway, Emily and I started watching

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<v Speaker 1>Old Mary Tyler Moore episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well like the original where she worked at the TV station.

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<v Speaker 2>Those shows used to like just be written so well too,

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<v Speaker 1>She was so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Ted Night, he was doing he was doing something and

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<v Speaker 2>it was so ridiculous and preposterous, but he was playing

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<v Speaker 2>it straight so well that the rest of the cast

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<v Speaker 2>just started cracking up and like they couldn't not They

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<v Speaker 2>did it in every take and it ended up kind

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<v Speaker 2>of in the show. It's some classically well known episode.

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<v Speaker 2>But check that one out and make sure you see

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<v Speaker 2>that one too.

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<v Speaker 1>So good, Ted Knight. And uh, who's the woman who

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<v Speaker 1>played rote A?

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<v Speaker 2>Valerie Burton Alley? No, Valerie, Uh, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's killing me. Valerie Harper. There you Valerie Harper ed Asner.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, it's just it's really a great, great show.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mary Tyler Moore is just a gem of a human.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope she's still good as a person. Sure, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>watched the documentary about her. It's worthwhile. Oh really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, all right, I'll check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, quite a woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Well thanks for the recommendation.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, sure, I feel like we've killed some time, should

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<v Speaker 1>we do a third in then take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a great idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck, all right, we're gonna talk about Sadam Hussein, and

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<v Speaker 1>Sadam Hussein didn't like one George H. W. Bush, who

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<v Speaker 1>was the guy who said his name that way because

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<v Speaker 1>of the First Gulf fer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he said, sure, I invaded Kuwait, but that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean you have to come over here and liberate Kuwait.

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<v Speaker 2>And George Bush said, yes, we do. And as a result,

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<v Speaker 2>after this war, Saddam Hussein was still in power, and

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<v Speaker 2>he apparently was willing to use his power in all

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<v Speaker 2>sorts of weird ways and techie ways. Frankly, in one

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<v Speaker 2>of the ways he did that was he had a

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<v Speaker 2>mosaic mural, and unflattering mosaic mural of George Bush laid

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<v Speaker 2>into the floor of the entrance of the Al Rashid Hotel,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the nicest hotels in Baghdad, if not the nicest,

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<v Speaker 2>And the whole reason was it also said Bush is

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<v Speaker 2>criminal on it too. And the reason was is that

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<v Speaker 2>anyone coming into this well traveled hotel would walk right

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<v Speaker 2>over George Bush's face.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and if you walked around it, you were given

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<v Speaker 1>a bad room.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, or taken out back and shot one of the two.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you look at a picture of this?

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<v Speaker 2>I did. It is an unflattering portrait, but you just

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<v Speaker 2>totally tell who it is.

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<v Speaker 1>You totally tell who it is. It's a big old

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<v Speaker 1>George Bush senior right there on the floor of the hotel,

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<v Speaker 1>of the lobby. It's a very strange thing to see

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<v Speaker 1>in a nice hotel. Yeah, but w came along later on,

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<v Speaker 1>went back to Iraq for the you know, the war

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<v Speaker 1>there on the basis of weapons of mass destruction that

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<v Speaker 1>did not exist, right, And he had them smash that up.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, Daddy, I'm not gonna let him do

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<v Speaker 1>that to you. Here's some sledgehammers. And so they went

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<v Speaker 1>in there and they smashed that thing up and chiseled

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<v Speaker 1>it up and supposedly laid a portrait of Saddam. Did

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't do that in mosaic tile? Did they?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. From what I saw, it looked

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<v Speaker 2>just like a picture. I didn't see a close above it.

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<v Speaker 2>I just saw it. Yeah. I couldn't find one either,

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<v Speaker 2>Like the head without a proportion with the Body's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, here's some sledgehammers, and I need a good tile

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<v Speaker 1>guy in bagdad.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, the sledgehammers head, don't mess with Texas engraved on them.

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<v Speaker 1>They probably did.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean that's spiteful. Right to make a

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<v Speaker 2>mosaic portrait of one of your sworn enemies so that

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<v Speaker 2>your people walk all over him, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think so to ruin your hotel lobby, your nicest hotel lobby.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, so we have a definitive example of spite.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well then that I think that means we should take

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<v Speaker 2>a break while we're ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll be right back with three more. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to learn about Terris ort to college, horedactyle, how

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<v Speaker 1>to take a bird.

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<v Speaker 2>Is gone?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a little hunt the.

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<v Speaker 2>Word up, Jerry, Okay, Chuck. I guess we should at

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<v Speaker 2>this point decide which one we're not going to do

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<v Speaker 2>for doing three three and three.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think the Beatles one has the least amount

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<v Speaker 1>of meat on the bone.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I was gonna skip that one too. Or

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<v Speaker 2>suggests we do great, uh and if you did it,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just gonna not talk. I was gonna skip

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<v Speaker 2>it either way.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean we can just quickly say that at

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<v Speaker 1>one point after the Beatles break up. John Lennon wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a song where he talked a lot of trash about

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<v Speaker 1>Paul McCartney. So everyone wants story. It's very, very famous story.

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<v Speaker 1>But the one that's really interesting to me is Ford

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<v Speaker 1>Versus Ferrari because that is a terrific movie that I

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<v Speaker 1>high they recommend.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it on Criterion Channel?

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<v Speaker 1>I doubt it, but I'm sure you could stream it somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>The great James Mangold directed it, and I'm always a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of his work. He did the new Bob Dylan movie.

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<v Speaker 2>What else?

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<v Speaker 1>He did the last Indiana Jones movie, which was better

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<v Speaker 1>than the one before.

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<v Speaker 2>What Else. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He's done, he's done. James Mangold's good. He sort of

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<v Speaker 1>has a very varied resume, which I always appreciate in

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<v Speaker 1>a director.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna say that's all over the place

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. Yeah, So I guess if you've seen Ford

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<v Speaker 2>Versus Ferrari, you're familiar with this story.

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<v Speaker 1>I am, and I do recommend it. He also did

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<v Speaker 1>the Wolverine movie in the Logan movie, so yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I'm going to tell this story then, because

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen that movie. So this was new to me, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd like it, okay. So in the sixties, Henry Ford

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<v Speaker 2>the second, who was the successor president of the Ford

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<v Speaker 2>Motor Company and I guess probably a relative of Henry Ford's,

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<v Speaker 2>he decided that he wanted Ford to get into racing

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<v Speaker 2>just to basically like make Ford, just to expand the brand. Basically, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>rather than just giant land yachts, we also make really

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<v Speaker 2>fast cars too.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally.

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<v Speaker 2>He also was like, you know, I know that there's

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<v Speaker 2>probably easier ways to get into racing than to build

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<v Speaker 2>race cars, and that is, let's just buy Ferrari like

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<v Speaker 2>they were already known around the world for building cars

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<v Speaker 2>that were just fast as all get out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, and they're very famous. Founder Inzo Farrati pitched

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<v Speaker 1>a deal for eighteen million bucks for ninety percent interest

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<v Speaker 1>in the company. And as the movie portrays it, this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't in this article, but as a movie portrays it.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm not mistaken, and I'm not sure if it's

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<v Speaker 1>true or not, but at least it wasn't a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see why they would make this part up

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<v Speaker 1>is that he was using that deal to get a

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<v Speaker 1>better deal from Fiat. So playing one against the other,

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<v Speaker 1>which will really make someone mad in business.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently, when Ford showed up to sign the paperwork, Ferrari

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<v Speaker 1>said that you know what you're this Ford assembly line.

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<v Speaker 1>This bureaucracy that you've got in this company is this

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<v Speaker 1>is not of how we do it over here.

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<v Speaker 2>So no deal, right, And Ford was not very happy

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<v Speaker 2>about this, right of course, not so out despite and

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<v Speaker 2>to get back at Ferrari, and I think also to

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<v Speaker 2>get into racing too, Ford decided to build their own

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<v Speaker 2>race car, which came out to be the Ford GT.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty and I went and looked it up. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a car dude, but I am like, here, this is

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing car.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the same way man.

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<v Speaker 2>And in fact it actually did best Ferrari at Leman's

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen sixty six. And you can buy that car

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<v Speaker 2>at the very least, the original body that won Lamon's

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen sixty six for cool six hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand dollars from it looks like a private owner

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<v Speaker 2>in Jacksonville, Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Jacksonville, it's beautiful. So they won first, second, and third,

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<v Speaker 1>so they really bested Ferrari. They also won in subsequent years.

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<v Speaker 1>So they swept in or not swept, but they won

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<v Speaker 1>in sixty six, sixty seven, sixty eight, and sixty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a sweep.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I meant not sweep for a second and third

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<v Speaker 1>place necessarily, or they may have. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should do one on the twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>hours of La Monz because that's that's I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>car race guy, but that to me is the most

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<v Speaker 1>interesting one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because they just drive around and around and around

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty four hours to see who can go the

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<v Speaker 2>furthest right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an endurance race.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not just like a you know, a circular

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<v Speaker 1>NASCAR thing. You know, they're driving through streets.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and every once in a while it starts to

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<v Speaker 2>get boring. They just push pedestrians out in there and

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<v Speaker 2>see what happens exactly. So there's a little more to

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<v Speaker 2>this story. A little separate spoke that Ferrari had going

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<v Speaker 2>on at about the same time or a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years earlier. Our friends at Mental Floss pointed out that

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<v Speaker 2>Lamborghini actually was founded out of spite to Ferrari.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, apparently the founder of Lamborghini, John Smith. His name

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<v Speaker 1>was Ferruccio Lamborghini. He was a tractor maker in the

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<v Speaker 1>sixties and he had a Ferrari and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this clutch is kind of janky. And as the story goes,

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<v Speaker 1>he got in touch with Inzo Ferrari and I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think I can help make your clutch better,

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<v Speaker 1>because you got this problem here with this spawndivot and

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<v Speaker 1>I can help make that thing better. And apparently, as

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<v Speaker 1>the story goes, Ferrari did not receive that phone call

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<v Speaker 1>well and was basically like get lost.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he said, stick to making tractors. Lamborghini. Who's ever

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<v Speaker 2>heard of Lamborghini?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly?

0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:53.800
<v Speaker 2>What a weird name for a car, right, So Lamborghini

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<v Speaker 2>was like, well, I'm just going to go make my

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<v Speaker 2>own car, and in nineteen sixty three, I believe, he

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<v Speaker 2>started making Lamborghinis with the help of five workers who

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<v Speaker 2>had recently been fired from Ferrari. That's how we established

0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.760
<v Speaker 2>his car company. And had Enzo Ferrari not rebuffed him,

0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.440
<v Speaker 2>we would never have that classic Garfield poster from the

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<v Speaker 2>eighties where he's standing next to a Kuontosh Bright.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I are not car guys, But like, if

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<v Speaker 1>I see a Lamborghini on the street or something, or

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<v Speaker 1>like the old Magnum Ferrari. I love that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Tinkle yourself a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I'm not a sports car guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just can't help but see those and think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what a what an amazing machine?

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<v Speaker 2>That is gorgeous. Those Magnum Ferraris you can get for

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<v Speaker 2>a song these days. I mean they don't work very well,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, how much are you O? Dohn't know. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna guess anywhere between ten and fifty grand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, considering how much they were, that is

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<v Speaker 1>a song, you know it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're so small too, Like I'm not sure either

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<v Speaker 2>one of us could fit in one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I think every guy are. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas magnefited him, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that was a stunt. Double half his size.

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<v Speaker 1>Really well he was when it showed him in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>His knees were up toward his chin a bit so.

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<v Speaker 2>Like by his ears.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he was he was a tall guy.

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<v Speaker 2>But I.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that that Ferrari. I feel like for guys of

0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:21.760
<v Speaker 1>our generation, that Ferrari and the the Porsche from Risky

0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Business or like Top two of the top five probably

0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:25.600
<v Speaker 1>dream cars.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that in nine, nine to eleven, it was the.

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<v Speaker 1>Now in the nine to eleven it was the nine

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not familiar with that one. Then, yeah, it had

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<v Speaker 1>the lights that popped up.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of the not as lauded versions, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, and that it's just something about that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It just sort of locked it in. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a little hatchback. It's not even that special.

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<v Speaker 2>Hatch pack when you look at it. Now, yeah, for

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<v Speaker 2>grocery shopping. Exactly how many have we done for this thing?

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<v Speaker 1>We just did one, right, Oh yeah, we gotta get going.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, let's get going. Because it turns out

0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:09.119
<v Speaker 2>that there was a road in China made out of spite.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. And I feel like I've seen this in

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<v Speaker 1>more than one place in the world where oh really, yeah,

0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:19.000
<v Speaker 1>not even necessarily a road, but like where like, well,

0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to give up your house, so we're

0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:22.720
<v Speaker 1>just going to build these skyscrapers all around.

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<v Speaker 2>It, right, Sure did you see pictures of this though?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, this is this is the extreme because this

0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:32.600
<v Speaker 1>happened in China to this couple in twenty twelve, The

0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:40.000
<v Speaker 1>man's name was Luo Bogan Boggin Boggin. He and his

0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:42.920
<v Speaker 1>wife refused to you know, they tried to come in

0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:46.679
<v Speaker 1>and take their house to make a highway, and they

0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:47.920
<v Speaker 1>were like, no, we're not going to do it. You

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<v Speaker 1>didn't offer us enough money, and so we're not going anywhere.

0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:54.479
<v Speaker 1>And so they built. I mean, if you visualize, if

0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.280
<v Speaker 1>you're visualizing a house literally sort of in the middle

0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:00.800
<v Speaker 1>of a road, in the right way goes around it,

0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:01.800
<v Speaker 1>that's what they did.

0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, it wasn't even aroundabout. It's just that the

0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:09.240
<v Speaker 2>road widened and kind of curved in a bulge on

0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:13.000
<v Speaker 2>the sides around this house literally in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>a highway. Even worse, even more reckless, if you ask me,

0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.479
<v Speaker 2>they kept electricity going to this house. So there's an

0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:23.639
<v Speaker 2>electrical pole in the middle of the highway too, totally unmarked.

0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:27.159
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't look really, no, it doesn't. It does not

0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:28.800
<v Speaker 2>at all doesn't. And if you want to see what

0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:31.439
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about, The Atlantic has a good photo spread

0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:33.760
<v Speaker 2>called the House in the Middle of the Street from

0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:35.160
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, this is the most extreme case of

0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:40.920
<v Speaker 1>something like this that I've heard. You know, it didn't

0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:43.639
<v Speaker 1>take long for them to give in, obviously because it

0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:47.879
<v Speaker 1>was well dangerous and awful, and so they got They

0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:51.080
<v Speaker 1>did eventually give in and got a larger offer than

0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:54.080
<v Speaker 1>they are originally asked for. But I don't get the

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that they thought they won.

0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:59.520
<v Speaker 2>No, they definitely didn't. So I've looked into this a

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<v Speaker 2>little further. There was a five story house that they

0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:06.480
<v Speaker 2>had just built for ninety five grand when the provincial

0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:09.000
<v Speaker 2>government said you need to move because we're building a

0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:12.160
<v Speaker 2>highway through here. And they weren't the only ones who

0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:15.280
<v Speaker 2>had kind of tried to stick it out. So they

0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:17.440
<v Speaker 2>were also aware that they could not leave their house.

0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:19.160
<v Speaker 2>They had to stay in their house twenty four hours

0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:21.399
<v Speaker 2>a day because if they left, the government would come

0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:23.679
<v Speaker 2>and bulldoze their house while they were gone and be like, ts,

0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:27.719
<v Speaker 2>what are you going to do? And they had no choice,

0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:30.879
<v Speaker 2>but just holding out was kind of a protest and

0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:35.439
<v Speaker 2>to draw attention to this generally unfair practice, because I mean,

0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:38.760
<v Speaker 2>any government can exercise eminent domain, but typically you want

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<v Speaker 2>to give at least market value.

0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it's it's really egregious.

0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:46.040
<v Speaker 2>When you look at this picture, it's nuts because they

0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:49.840
<v Speaker 2>were on their porch like a second floor balcony, and

0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:52.920
<v Speaker 2>they're looking down and you're looking down not at a

0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:55.040
<v Speaker 2>front yard, you're looking down at the road, like it

0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:57.000
<v Speaker 2>went right around this house.

0:22:57.359 --> 0:22:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, through crazy stuff.

0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that was a spiteful road.

0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:05.000
<v Speaker 1>That was a spiteful road. And now we're gonna talk

0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:06.160
<v Speaker 1>about a spiteful statue.

0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:06.880
<v Speaker 2>That's right.

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Because in Germany, between the towns of Bonn and Buah,

0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:16.639
<v Speaker 1>there's the old Rhine River and the Rhine River Bridge

0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:20.760
<v Speaker 1>that connects the two and so the Little Bridgeman or

0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:25.600
<v Speaker 1>the bruchen Mankin frucin Mankin, it's kind of a mouthful,

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:29.000
<v Speaker 1>is the little Bridgeman. And that is a sculpture of

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:32.160
<v Speaker 1>a guy sort of bent over sticking his butt out,

0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:36.680
<v Speaker 1>and that became the subject of a lot of contention,

0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:38.880
<v Speaker 1>eventually backfiring. Is that right.

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:43.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So the story went that in the late nineteenth century,

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I think December seventeenth, eighteen ninety eight, this bridge between

0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Bonn and Buell, which was supposed to be a joint

0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:55.200
<v Speaker 2>construction project between the two, ended up being paid for

0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:59.200
<v Speaker 2>entirely by Bonn because Buell was like, we'll use the bridge,

0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:00.639
<v Speaker 2>but we're not going to pay for it. You go

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:03.800
<v Speaker 2>ahead and pay for it. Yeah, And so under wraps

0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:08.560
<v Speaker 2>until this unveiling of the bridge was that little statue

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 2>of a little man carved into the bridge with his

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 2>butt sticking out, basically.

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Mooning Bule, mooning Bule.

0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine just the pilarity of seeing that.

0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But like I said, it backfired because that statue

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:30.520
<v Speaker 1>became a bit of a local icon. So it you know,

0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:33.679
<v Speaker 1>it was on banknotes, it was on people took pictures

0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 1>of it, it was on local postcards, and it was

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>a little tourist attraction. But what they did was they

0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:44.880
<v Speaker 1>put attacks on the bridge, but only attacks going one

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 1>way and not back into your own place.

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 1>So what happened was from the Bule side they could

0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 1>see the statue because it was pointing, you know, their

0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>butt was pointing at them. So they got all the

0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 1>benefits of seeing this thing without having to pay to

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 1>to cross the bridge to see it. If you're on

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:03.439
<v Speaker 1>the other side and you wanted to go, like actually

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 1>see the statue, you had to pay to get across.

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And you can believe that anytime you had out

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 2>of town guests visit, you had to take them to

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:13.199
<v Speaker 2>go see the little bridge Man, go see the butt man.

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, they ended up what was supposed to be

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:18.399
<v Speaker 2>a joke at the expense of Bule ended up to

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:21.399
<v Speaker 2>be an actual expense for the city, a bond because

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 2>they had to pay this fee to get onto the bridge.

0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 2>But supposedly their friendly rivals still or they were. Now

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I think they're one town, kind of like Buddha Pest.

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:34.360
<v Speaker 2>There's Buddha and Pest and it's separated by the river,

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 2>but it's still one city now.

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, same thing, and that's what Bonn and Bule interest.

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:42.200
<v Speaker 2>That's how I understand it. So this you can still

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 2>see the little Bridgeman, but he's not the original. The

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 2>original was almost destroyed in the Second World War. The

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 2>bridge was at least, but they were able to get

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 2>their hands on the statue and get them out of

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:57.359
<v Speaker 2>the rhine. They put them back on the rebuilt bridge,

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:01.200
<v Speaker 2>but then some local youths in nineteen six he destroyed that.

0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:04.679
<v Speaker 2>So now there's a recreation of it on the bridge.

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:06.200
<v Speaker 1>A little punk rockers.

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a little punks at least. Uh. So that's that

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:14.640
<v Speaker 2>was a little Bridgeman made out of spite.

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:17.440
<v Speaker 1>All right, And I think that's break number two. And

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:20.199
<v Speaker 1>we'll be back to finish up with three more right

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:22.680
<v Speaker 1>after this, I want to learn about a Terris ran

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:26.360
<v Speaker 1>College veradactyle, how to take a bergink is gone. That's

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>a little hunt we should know.

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 2>Word up, Jerry, all right.

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about uh. And I've seen stories sort

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 1>of like this, but this one seems to take the cake.

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 1>When a Christmas display goes too far and all of

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, people are neighbor are like, hey, this is

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 1>getting out of hand. It's too bright, or it's you know, neighbor.

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>People are driving in to see these things now, and

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 1>I can't even get down my own street, right. And

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>this happened in the mid two thousands in Ross Township, Pennsylvania,

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:17.680
<v Speaker 1>when a dude named Bill an electrician key named Bill

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>an Sell did a pretty you know, audacious Christmas display

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 1>in his front yard there in Ross Township, such that

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 1>people were driving in and neighbors started to get annoyed.

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And actually the way that this neighborhood was arranged

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:34.440
<v Speaker 2>is a cul de sac. But in the center of

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:38.639
<v Speaker 2>the coulda sack was Bill Ansel's house. So with his

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.479
<v Speaker 2>light display, you it was just kind of like driving

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 2>through a holiday light display because you just drive past

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 2>and go all the way around and come back on

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:47.120
<v Speaker 2>the other side.

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 1>And lee, he's kind of perfect.

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 2>Actually it was perfect, and Bill Ansel definitely thought it

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 2>was perfect. But like you said, the neighbors were like, man,

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 2>come on, this is one hundred thousand watts of Christmas joy.

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.680
<v Speaker 2>It's just it's too much, so and we do something

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 2>about this. Bill Ansel apparently was not the type to

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 2>take criticism. Well, sounds like it. I think he actually

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 2>was required to take down the holiday display, and yes,

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 2>I think they cited him for an out of season

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 2>decoration or something like that. Right, So he took it down,

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 2>but in short order he put up a new display

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:30.640
<v Speaker 2>and specifically designed it so that the neighbors regretted ever

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 2>asking him to take down the original joyous display.

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 1>And he did this chuck out of spike, that's right,

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>and apparently left it up year round. Santa urinating in

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 1>the front yard, a choir that was beheaded, Frosty the

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Snowman getting run over by a car. Also up in

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 1>lights f Ross Township. Yeah, just right there in string

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 1>lights a sign that said this display is dedicated to

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Ross Township. Shame on you. For destroying my display that

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 1>brought so much joy and happiness to so many people.

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 2>There was also a warning, a sign that said Ross Township,

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 2>don't touch any of this property. If you do, there

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 2>will be bloodshed.

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Is that true?

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, no, it totally is. And there was another one.

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 2>I read an interview with twenty twenty with the neighbors

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 2>who were like, this guy actually wrote a sign. I

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't see what he said, but he came up with

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 2>the disparaging sign for the deceased wife of Tom White,

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 2>one of the neighbors. The day after she died, he

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 2>put up some sign disparaging her. So this guy was

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:46.479
<v Speaker 2>definitely off the chain with this thing. And I mean

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 2>like he would stay up at night and hit metal

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 2>with sledgehammers to make noise. He had floodlights pointed directly

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>in the neighbors' houses, and I mean, living like that's

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 2>bad enough. But they said something that stuck out to

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 2>me that I hadn't thought of. That It's like, this

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 2>is a living nightmare when you have a neighbor like that. Yeah,

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 2>and you sell your house anytime you have a showing,

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 2>They're going to turn around before they even get out

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 2>of their car. That's like, you're trapped. They were totally

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 2>trapped there, and despite the township finding him, despite court orders,

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 2>like you said, he kept it up year round, and

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 2>he kept it up for years.

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then he built a kill desert.

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I thought that there was definitely a parallel between

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 2>those guys too. Yeah.

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Be a good neighbor everyone. Be a good neighbor to

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 1>your neighbor. That's all you got to do. You don't

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 1>have to. You can go above and beyond if you want,

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>but just be like base level good.

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Sure, and if your neighbor, then if your neighbors come

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 2>to you with a complaint about some special thing that's

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 2>special to you, rather than going off the handle, maybe

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 2>say well, let's figure out a compromise because this is

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 2>really important to me.

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and let's not tank everyone's property values. We're all

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 1>in this together.

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Sure, And if they're like, no, we insist you take

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 2>it down, then you do something right, at least give

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 2>him a fighting chance.

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 1>That's right. This is this is super spike.

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 2>So we want to thank not just our friends at

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty, but our friends at Mental Floss too for

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 2>pointing that one out to us.

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 2>So I think we got a couple more, right.

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 1>That's right. We'll move on to Prince Rogers Nelson aka

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Prince AKA for a little while. The artist formerly known

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 1>as Prince because very famously Prince changed his name in

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety three when to an unrecognizable symbol. It was

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>sort of the symbol for a man and woman, and

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 1>it had some other flourishes and had kind of been

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 1>tweaked and redesigned over the years. It was on different pieces,

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, he had a guitar shape like that previously.

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 1>I think it was on his motorcycle and purple rain maybe,

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah. But it was a symbol that had been

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 1>around his world for a while and Prince said, yep,

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>that's my name now, and wear it out. He was thought,

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>he was, we don't wear it out because you can't

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>say it, so that's impossible, right. But I think at

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>the time, I remember, everyone just thought it was Prince

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 1>being prince and being strange and being eccentric. But it

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>is now pretty widely accepted that he did that to

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 1>spite Warner Brothers Records because he was in a record

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 1>contract he didn't like for numerous reasons.

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, it was a very lucrative contract. A

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 2>lot of people were playing like the world's smallest violin

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 2>for Prince at the time.

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Resigned it too.

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 2>By the way, twenty years later resigned with the same company.

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know he resigned before this one. This

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>was the second. Really he resigned a third time later.

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 2>I got you okay, did not realize that, but this

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>was like one hundred million dollar contract was worth two

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifteen million dollars today. It was a big

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 2>fat contract.

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 2>The thing is is, Prince I saw like when he died,

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 2>when they went into his audio archives, They're like he

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 2>could release an album like every month for the next

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 2>fIF years or something like that, that he had that

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 2>much stuff recorded. Yeah, and he wanted to release music

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 2>really quickly and with high turnover, and Warner Brothers is like, no,

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna flood the market. You're gonna shoot yourself in

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 2>the foot. You can only release X number of albums

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 2>every say, twelve months of like one a year maybe

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:18.719
<v Speaker 2>or something like that. He didn't like that. And then

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 2>apparently Warner Brothers owned the rights to his songs too,

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 2>which I'm quite sure he really really didn't like. So

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 2>to get out of his contract. He thought, well, okay,

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 2>the contract is between Prince and Warner Brothers. I'm going

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 2>to change my name and maybe the contract won't be

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 2>valid any longer. I'm not sure how much he actually

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 2>believed that, because Prince wasn't a dumb person at all. Yeah,

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 2>but at the very least he was trying to humiliate

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Warner Brothers make life harder for them. And he did

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 2>all this, as you said, out of spite.

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 1>That's right. He also wrote the word slave on his

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>cheek and a lot of performances at the time, and

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>it didn't work. He had to see the contract through,

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>which was just another few I think in two thousand

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 1>it expired and then he was Princes again. And like

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you said, you know by guns were by guns I

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>guess because he re signed yet again twenty years later

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>with Warner Brothers.

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. One of the things that Warner Brothers too had

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 2>to do, Chuck, was they had to send out digital

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 2>files to the media. And this is the nineties, because

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 2>there was no way to there was no like combination

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:24.320
<v Speaker 2>of keys on a keyboard to make this symbol, so

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 2>they had to send a digital image of the symbol

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 2>for the like newspapers or magazines or whatever to insert

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:35.760
<v Speaker 2>into their articles about Prince. And then finally the media

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 2>was just like, we're just gonna call him the artist

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<v Speaker 2>formerly known as Prince, and Prince.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, damn it, right, work around.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly, So rip Prince man. He was pretty great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, my friend and your friend Scottie got to go

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<v Speaker 1>to his final performance, the solo Atlanta performance at the

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Fox Theater, just days before he died. Yeah, and it

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.399
<v Speaker 1>always makes me so mady because Scotty didn't even really

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<v Speaker 1>love Prince. Yeah, now I'm glad he got together.

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 2>He just showed up there, like how did I get here?

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>So that's one of those We almost went and pulled

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the trigger to scalp tickets, and it was just like,

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why we didn't, because it was special

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>enough to be a piano solo concert by Prince. I

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.280
<v Speaker 1>was like, man, we gotta go yep, and we didn't,

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>and then he died.

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were going to do the same thing, and

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 2>that's actually a well we were going to scalp. We

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 2>were going to go, and I don't remember why we didn't,

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<v Speaker 2>But that's kind of par for the course for me,

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 2>because I did that with Prince. I did that with

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Pink Floyd, I did that with Steve Ray Vaughan, and

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 2>I did that with The Grateful Debt. I was just like,

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 2>I'll see him next time.

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I saw Prince when I lived in LA in the

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>late ninety or I'm sorry, Yeah, I guess it was

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 1>early two thousands, and that was amazing just being able

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:52.320
<v Speaker 1>to see him once with a full band. It was

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>something else.

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:56.399
<v Speaker 2>You saw him for some tour I think Musicology tour,

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 2>and she was like, hands down, the best show I've

0:35:58.680 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 2>ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what a loss.

0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Apparently he was quite the dancer. He was.

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:06.799
<v Speaker 1>Also saw Tom Petty on that last tour. I saw

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 1>him quite a few times, but I was I was

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>really glad to be at that last one.

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was cool. He's one of those guys that

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 2>you like, you appreciate the older you get, you know.

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 1>What I mean, the best. No, he's one of my faves.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, let's move on to the pink House, Chuck, the

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<v Speaker 2>Last of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Last, the Last, John Mellencamp.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's a little pink house.

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 1>This is just the pink house, that's right. This is

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<v Speaker 1>another image search quality or image search worthy kind of

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 1>thing to look up. If you're in a place where

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>you can do that, just type in Plum Island pink

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 1>house and you will see a quite large pink house

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>sitting in the middle of nothing, just.

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 2>A desolate marshland. Yeah, and it's it's just looking at it,

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 2>it's very eerie, especially now it's abandon it's kind of

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 2>ramshackle and run down. But it was built on Plum

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Island and it's considered one of the all time great

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:02.320
<v Speaker 2>example of a spite house. And a spite house is

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 2>basically any house wall structure that's built to get under

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 2>someone else's skin, right, so sometimes it's built to block

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 2>their view. We talked about Henry Clay Frick building a

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 2>mansion that was bigger than Andrew Carnegie's that would be

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 2>considered a spite house. And in America they go back

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 2>at least until eighteen o six. That was the earliest

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 2>one I could find. But this one on Plumb Island

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 2>off the coast of newberry Port, Massachusetts, which by the way,

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 2>is one of the more charming towns in the entire country.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I've never been there.

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's wonderful. That's where this pink house is. And

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 2>there's a great backstory to it that makes it a

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 2>spite house.

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 1>A lot of times the spite houses happen when a

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 1>couple gets divorced. It should come as no surprise, or

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 1>I should say probably a couples with a lot of

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:55.879
<v Speaker 1>money get divorced, because what I've learned is in order

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 1>to have a spite house, you have to be rich. Right, Oh,

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:01.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to build that huge house to get

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 1>back at someone. It's a very privileged position to be in,

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 1>for sure, So you know I am judging. But in

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen there was a New York Times article that

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>talked about this thing that was built, like you said,

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.240
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of nowhere. It said it was overlooking

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:19.840
<v Speaker 1>a vast landscape of pristine salt marsh. And it apparently

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:22.280
<v Speaker 1>happened in nineteen twenty five when a couple got divorced

0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and the wife said, all right, we can get a divorce,

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 1>but you have to rebuild an exact duplicate of the

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:33.920
<v Speaker 1>house we live in if you're kicking me out of it,

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:36.360
<v Speaker 1>because I love it so much. And he went, no problem,

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.360
<v Speaker 1>And so he built it. And he said, you didn't

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:42.400
<v Speaker 1>say where, And he said, it just like that.

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 2>I bet yep, he did. So he built it on

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:46.799
<v Speaker 2>Plumb Island. At the time, there was no one else

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:52.360
<v Speaker 2>living there, no fresh water, no electricity. It was just

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 2>the worst place you could build a house. And he said,

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 2>there you go, there's your spite house. And he walked away,

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 2>rubbing the dust off of his hands or what do

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:02.759
<v Speaker 2>you call that?

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that whatever, you clapping the dust off your hands.

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we need to come up with a name for that, right, yeah,

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:14.439
<v Speaker 2>a snigglet yeah yeah. So yeah, that's how it ended.

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 2>And the story went that she lived there for a

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:22.799
<v Speaker 2>while and sold it, and it actually was inhabited, weirdly enough,

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:27.839
<v Speaker 2>by a succession of people up until twenty eleven. Yeah.

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess if you're a loner and you

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 1>like the nature, it's not the worst place to be.

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I just saw a sunset picture. It look pretty nice in.

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 2>That sense, Yes it did, But it's just I mean,

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:42.399
<v Speaker 2>like the sea off of Massachusetts can be fairly unforgiving. So, yeah,

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, this is an old house from the nineteen twenties,

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Like you're it's gonna probably be kind of drafty depending

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 2>on the time of year.

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm sure I'll keep on that thing as

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 1>you're probably repainting that thing every couple of years, right.

0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but you would have to paint a pink girls.

0:39:57.600 --> 0:39:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Everybody in newberry Port would hate you.

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you would have to. Apparently that it was lived

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>in until twenty eleven and then eventually was sold to

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 1>the Parker River National Wildlife Refuge in twenty twelve, and

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you can't get to it now. It's off limits to

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the public. But they're trying to make it an official

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 1>like protected house so it will stand forever.

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 2>And it was made out of spite or was right shock?

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Well, some people say that that was

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 1>just an urban legend and it was just a family

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:28.799
<v Speaker 1>who lived out there.

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Right, which is a much less interesting story.

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:34.760
<v Speaker 1>So we're just going to spite whatsoever.

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 2>We're going to go with Spiite House for that one.

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Agreed, All right.

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Well that's it for things done out of spite. We

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<v Speaker 2>hope you enjoyed it. And since I said we hope

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<v Speaker 2>you enjoyed it, it's time for listener now.

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<v Speaker 1>So another recent one from automat. I love this real

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 1>time stuff. This, you know, I mentioned some sort of

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>episode on currency and how it affects things, And this

0:40:59.000 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 1>is from tree.

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<v Speaker 2>Tree. Okay, awesome, not a tree, but tree tree.

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, Chuck, specifically, you mentioned in the Automate episode

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:10.240
<v Speaker 1>you were trying to formulate something around how change affects

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 1>things our currency rather a look into the situation in

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Zimbabwe that might help where it was too expensive to

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 1>import metal coins they had adopted the US dollar. It

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 1>was too expensive to import the metal because of weight,

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 1>so there was a huge chain shortage because store owners

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 1>couldn't give shoppers change, shoppers would have to purchase additional

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:31.879
<v Speaker 1>items to try and get their total purchase as close

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 1>to the whole dollar amount. And he sent a New

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:37.720
<v Speaker 1>York Times article and that, my friend, tree, is exactly

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 1>what I was talking about as something that could be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of that episode. So I appreciate that direction,

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>and that is specifically Tree March Shink, great name, three

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 1>tree Markshink from South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks a lot. That's a good one. And I remember

0:41:57.040 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 2>we talked a little bit about Zimbabwe's hyperinflation. Oh yeah,

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 2>where people were like showing up with actual weird wheelbarrows

0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 2>of cash because it was just going nuts.

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:07.120
<v Speaker 1>That was crazy.

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 2>I remember that, great, great example. Yeah, we've got to

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<v Speaker 2>do that episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's there's got to be more to it, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you want to be like Tree and fill

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:18.959
<v Speaker 2>us in on something we've said we want to know about.

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:21.600
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