1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Legends Podcast, an NFL podcast for 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: the players, by the players. Here's your host, four team 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: year NFL veteran and Hall of Famer Enius Williams. Hello, 4 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Legends Podcast. I am Anius Williams. This 5 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: podcast goes out to NFL Legends, and today we're focusing 6 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: on simple the simple concept of paying it forward, building 7 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: on the successes you've had to help others reach their dreams. 8 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: And one of the unique things about this podcast is 9 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: these three gentlemen not only have the transition from the 10 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: National Football League, but also the unique interest when it 11 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: comes down to business, when it comes down to finances, 12 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: when it comes down to uh continuing education. So I'm 13 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: excited to sit down and this, uh guys be fo 14 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: on the walls whoever listening. I got the great Justin 15 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: Tuck who terrorized at two Super Bowls, man undefeated New 16 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: England Patriots him and that that rush uh d linement. 17 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: I was duck into my house when I say, y'all 18 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: attacking Tom Brady the way you did it, And UH 19 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: got the great Justin Tuck noted not the damer and 20 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: just the years admire your career Marcus Coasting being from 21 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: New Orleans, Man, I feel like crying for the New 22 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: Orleans folks, for the all the joys and uh the 23 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: smiles you put on my parents faces. Uh, you and 24 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: your teammates and Sean Payton and Drew Brees and you 25 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: being a part of that uh that great Hostra University 26 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: of Houstra University, which we're not gonna get on him, justin, 27 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: We're not gonna. We will not. Justin, we will not 28 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: get on you for allowing your school to drop football. 29 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna hold you to that. We'll talk about that 30 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: a little later as well. And then we got the pits. Man, 31 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: this this story that's being fabricated. He was in a 32 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: grocery store and I mean, you got an NFL commercial 33 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: us up to two years ago. Man, are you gonna 34 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: stick to that story? Man? Ever created best job ever? 35 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: Because these guys are joining us, I want to start 36 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: off with this conversation. Guys, we want to start talking 37 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: about the stuff you're doing right now now because all 38 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: of you are great stories, the Marquees. Can you take 39 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: us through how you are helping NFL players and NFL 40 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: legends find financial success? Probably probably about halfway through my career. 41 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: I started to to kind of venture into the angel 42 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: investment space, and you know, kind of kind of built 43 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: a passion in sports technology, and I really didn't have, 44 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: you know, a blueprint, you know, as I was moving 45 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: through the space, and I was just kind of you know, 46 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: I had a couple of advisors at the time, but 47 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: but there was no no one really leading away for 48 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: me in terms of, you know, the the edge cation 49 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: base to be successful there. You know, as as I 50 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: was learning, I was I was just continuing to learn 51 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: on the fly. You know, it kind of kind of 52 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: hit me at a point that this is a situation 53 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: that I think a lot of guys find themselves in. 54 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: For me, it was sports tech, but you know, for 55 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: other guys that might be real estate, it might be 56 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: it might be entrepreneurship. And it really wasn't you know, 57 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: a blueprint, you know, to to take someone that I 58 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: was able to succeed at the highest level of sport 59 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: and take a lot of those intangibles and applying to 60 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: to a different world for success. You know, I was 61 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: able to, with a partner, put together a program at Colombia, 62 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: you know, targeted at doing just that. The league and 63 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: the p a does does a really good job of 64 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: providing resources for for guys while they're planning after they're done. 65 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: But this was kind of a soft spot that that 66 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: that I had seen and identified and you know, the 67 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: ability to to partner with an Ivy League school that 68 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: that's really just as excited about the process as we are. 69 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's been been about a year year and 70 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: a half into making, but it's finally coming to fruition 71 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: and you know, really excited about it before I go, Yes, 72 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: that's dope. I mean I hadn't said before we got 73 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: onto the next deal, but that's dope. Like finding and 74 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: identifying a need and then attacking the need and fixing it. 75 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: Hello business, Hello world. Going to be valuable to someone, 76 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: do that. That's how you always stay valuable. That's how 77 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: you always keep paycheck in your pocket. It's all right, 78 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: but no, no, but that's that's perfect because real quick 79 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: you said you started this, started thinking this in what 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: part of your career? Again? I mean I really jumped out. 81 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: I played ten years, probably a year five or six 82 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: started Why what? Um a second contract? Definitely got a 83 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: little more contract. Now you got a little more to 84 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: work with. Now for me, I've just always been somebody 85 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: that I've just kind of always had entrepreneur of mindset, 86 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, direct, what are you thinking this? Because a 87 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: lot of times you get to the league and you think, okay, 88 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: legally league, And I'm gonna ask each of you got 89 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: where you thinking like this? Because it's one thing. Okay, 90 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: we gotta be focused on being the best we could be. 91 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: That's the first paycheck, that's the first thing that we 92 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: can control. Was this something you had even prior to 93 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: come into the league in terms of that that mindset. 94 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: I had the mindset, but when you're coming in you 95 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: gotta have tunnelvision just too. I mean I was seven 96 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: around pick I had the mindset. But you know, those 97 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: first handful of years, I mean it was about hanging 98 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: on and just trying to be on the roster um. 99 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: But I think that the interesting thing for me was 100 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: I kind of jumped out and started doing other things 101 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: because I was for our first handful of years, I 102 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: was all football all the time. I really started getting 103 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: to a point where I felt like I was burning 104 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: myself out, so I really started started looking at stuff 105 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: off the field, just as as a mental break. You know, 106 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: fell in love with with you know, entrepreneurship and fell 107 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: in love with you know, what I was doing and 108 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: it it really became a part of the entire rest 109 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: of my career. Um So the way I got to 110 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: it was, I guess a little unorthodox, but you know, 111 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: just being able to unlock that and being able to 112 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: you know, be able to do two things. It kind 113 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: of create a balance for me in my career. So 114 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: you are able to do two things, which a lot 115 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: of times we always hear and focus on that one thing, 116 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: and for you, the two things helped kind of balance 117 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: you out also help you sustain your career. Yep. That's 118 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: a unique point Chester financially when it comes down to 119 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: players and NFL legends and the business aspect of who 120 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: you are besides the grocery store guy business. And I 121 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: had four one K when I was seventeen years old. 122 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: You know, everybody say, you know, I've been you know, 123 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it was a UFC W one Local 124 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: one thirty five, that was United Food Commercial Workers. When 125 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: I was back in groceries, I was a union man. 126 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: Before I was a I was a union man and 127 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: that was Chester the union man. That was honestly why 128 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 1: I chose to go work at the grocers because Ralph's 129 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: is krober. So it's just in l a old on. 130 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you get past it. How old 131 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: are you who's thinking about a union years sixteen and 132 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: find out you're gonna be a daddy? The world changed 133 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: me being focused on and putting, you know, tinkering and 134 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: having fun with electronics. I got responsibilities. Now got responsibilities coming. Hold, 135 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: you're hitting some stuff. Six understanding. That's what they have 136 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: in a change. You mentioned at sixteen. Responsibility. Those two 137 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: don't always go together. Oh that that That conversation with 138 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: my mother was she she left nothing to chance. She 139 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: spelled that out very quickly, that if you want to 140 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: behave and act like a man, well even though you're sixteen, 141 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to behave and like a man everywhere. Yeah, 142 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: eibility right there. So that so that was so that 143 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: was done in the wrap. And now I was I 144 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: will say this like I had I had some hustling me, 145 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: like the you know, the new fancy way to say this, entrepreneurship, 146 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, that's the that's the that's the Ivy League 147 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: way to say, get your boot out there and hustle 148 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: and go make some money. Sure. So when I was 149 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: a kid, I cut lawns. Uh. The second I was 150 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: actually my mom actually forged my little deal when I 151 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: was fourteen so I can go work with her at 152 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: the summer in the summertime at her company, and I 153 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: worked in mail room. So I did that for two 154 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: years with her. So I had worked before, and I 155 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: worked in the summertime, but six teen rolls around and 156 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: your daddy, I gotta make some real choices. So she 157 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: was like, you got to get a job now, Like 158 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: you don't like, you know, you can't go get a 159 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: job eventually, you have to go work now because you 160 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: have a very expensive responsibility in the route. So, you know, 161 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: being a smart kid, I started doing research and I 162 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, you can get a job and make 163 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: a deed. You can get a job here, you can 164 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: get a job there, but at the grocery store, you know, 165 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: at Rolph's at that time, it was thirty days and 166 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: you were in the union and you have full health 167 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: coverage and had full health benefits. So for me, that 168 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: had a ton of value because I had a little 169 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: one coming and you know, nothing in me was cool 170 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: with leaning on the state or leaning on others. It 171 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: was all me and all my responsibility, so you know, 172 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: it was kind of an easy choice where you know, 173 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: where I was gonna go work. This was kind of 174 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: the first time I had messed up, knowing that I'm 175 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: set in an example four my siblings. I had to say, Okay, 176 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: I made an air. I made a mistake, but here's 177 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: how I responded. And I understood that at a very 178 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: young age, and my mother was on my neck to 179 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: make sure that I understood that at a very young 180 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: age because it was you know, nobody did it but me, 181 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: so it was my responsibility and so that so that 182 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: was a bit of the foundation for me and then 183 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: understanding and getting into business and all that good jazz. 184 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I went to the California Academy of Mathematics 185 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: and Science. You know, it's never there's never been a 186 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: day where I wasn't a sharp kid or I wasn't 187 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: a smart kid. So you know, I had, you know, 188 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: had aptitude early on, it just sometimes didn't line up 189 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: with common sense. So I made I made some common 190 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: common since there I was booked smart, but I wasn't 191 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: always making you know, all of the right is all 192 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: the right and smartest decisions. When I would send said, 193 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: I want to say hate to be a sound engineer. 194 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: I was back in groceries and I was in the 195 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: engineering program. I just happened to have, you know, a 196 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: couple of the football players you know, coming to the 197 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: story and say I was an engineering program. I know 198 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: it ain't. For two weeks, I'm out there pushing carts 199 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: in and just you know, being I was a kid, 200 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: but I was having fun and I was big and strong. 201 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: So I'm every day I'm challenging myself to see if 202 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: I could push thirty cards in at a time, thirty 203 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: five cards in at a time too, where it got 204 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: ridiculous and it just wasn't safe because if somebody came 205 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: out of know where, I was not gonna be able 206 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: to stop sixte in a row. But I ain't care 207 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: of what they were, you know. And and then I 208 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: was because I was big and strong. I always worked 209 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: the weekend shifts. I always worked the weekend night shifts 210 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: because I'm two blocks from San Diego State, so everybody 211 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: everybody knew me because I was the keig man. So 212 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: when they would come in to be party times. But 213 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: my deal was that's who was. So you know, they're like, yo, man, 214 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: you're you're too big to be in here back in groceries, bro, Like, 215 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: how do you how does it you never played football? 216 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: And how is it you know I went to to 217 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: California Academy and Math and Science, So you never played 218 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: football in high school? Bro, I didn't play high school 219 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: to my second year when I walked through at San 220 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: Diego State. Yeah. So yeah, So it's it's crazy. I mean, 221 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's what I love about about these 222 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: these stories and totally opposite. You go this major university 223 00:11:53,400 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: of Justin and not the Dame and uh touchdown Jesus 224 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: all all that kind of stuff, right, but now Warten 225 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: School of Business plan for the Giants in terms of 226 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: finances and setting that a course, because you meant you 227 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: and I had a conversation about some of the things 228 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: that that Marcus was doing and what what you learned, 229 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: what got you going? When it comes down to well, 230 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's kind of similar to Marcus 231 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: when you talk about the first couple of years in 232 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: this league, your tunnel vision and being in New York. 233 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: I knew I needed to be tunnel vision because like 234 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: New Orleans, there's a lot of things forget. I'm sitting 235 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: there with O c Um and you're in Michael straighthand 236 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: and at the time before we built the New State Stadium, 237 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: you had a direct view from our practice field to 238 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: the city. You see the skyline and we're sitting there practicing. 239 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: I'll never forget them to God telling me, hey man, 240 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: this is my rookie year. He's like, hey man, you 241 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: see that over there. It's undefeated. You can't beat it, 242 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: so don't try. I was like, at first, I didn't 243 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: necessarily know what that meant. But then year so then 244 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: I started watching other Cats, who would, you know, do 245 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: what they need to do on the football field. But 246 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: that late night they're alway in the city and sure 247 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: enough those cats kind of you know, you see them 248 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: doing the way, doing the way, and they're now on 249 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: the rost and no more so for me, it allowed 250 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: me to really tunnel vision in man to to what 251 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: the football side of things was. But you know, obviously 252 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: coming from the university like Notre Dame and similar to 253 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: your mom, Man, my dad and my mom was like, 254 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: we don't we don't care about this whole football thing. 255 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's cool, but the end of the day, 256 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: the NFL stands were not for long. So you know 257 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: this right here is what's gonna, you know, sustain you 258 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: through life. You know, I played eleven years very sumself 259 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: and what I did. I retired at thirty two. Advances 260 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: of medicine. I'm hoping a little to be in the 261 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: eighties and so on the sofa. What I'm gonna do 262 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: for the next fifty year. You know, my knees won't 263 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: allow me to be in at the age and sack 264 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's no more, But my mind allows me to 265 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: pick up knowledge in all these other spaces and allow 266 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: me to continue to, like you said, promote that that legacy, 267 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: what what what our legacy is going to be. You know, 268 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: if I die in all you know about Justin's that 269 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: he won two Super Bowls and you know he was 270 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: a pretty good defensive and I failed because at the 271 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: end of the day, we got all these kids that 272 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: admire what we do on the football field. But I 273 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: think you're looking at three individuals right now. That's that's 274 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: showing all these kids another side as well, because a 275 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: lot of kids that that admire us will not get 276 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: to play in the NFL will not get to play 277 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: in the NBA, but they can go on and do 278 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: things in finance, they can go and do things in engineering, 279 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: they can go and do things with unions and so 280 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: on and so forth. And you look at three guys 281 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: that I admire a lot and that are are setting 282 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: examples for knowledge of these young kids, but also kids 283 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: me and Marcut was talking about this yesterday, also these 284 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: young guys in the NFL. That's saying I didn't know 285 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: I could go to war nor Colombia or whatever. I 286 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: didn't even know that was in my wheelhouse. And trust me, 287 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: like i'mlike somebody over here and named ter, I'm i 288 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: gonna brag and say I've always been this smart guy, 289 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, it was it 290 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: was the work efter that that pushed me to kind 291 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: of be interesting in different things. And you talk about 292 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: paying it forward. There's been so many guys like yourself 293 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: who I've asked questions about, you know, I want to 294 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: do this, and how do I do that? And if 295 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: I want to go this way, then what's the avenue 296 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: and should I take? What's some stakes you make when 297 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: you were doing the things that you were doing that 298 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: I can avoid it because you know, athletes ego is 299 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: getting away so much. Man, we always feel like we've 300 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: got to reinvent the wheel. I gotta do it all myself. 301 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: That don't make any sense to me, said that one 302 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: more time, because there's no reinventing the wheel none. What 303 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: all the great things you doing on football field, there 304 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: are people that did it before you. Absolutely the same 305 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: with all of us, and the same thing is gonna 306 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: happen to be, you know, whatever we do next. I'm 307 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: looking at all these guys that I'm now finding out 308 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: because I don't think media doesn't really really good job 309 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: of promoting the successes of our athletes. And we go 310 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: out and you know, get a d u I AND's 311 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: on so for that's the ticket for three days straight 312 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: on ESPN. But you talk about guys running their own 313 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: hitch funds and they're on private acting funds and they're 314 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: starting to run uh executive programming at Columbia University in 315 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: partner with Columbia you know here here about that. I 316 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: had the research to find out what Marcus was doing. 317 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: And the only reason why I was researching it because 318 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: I was thinking about doing the same thing. And we 319 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: talked about that yesterday. But but I thought, see this 320 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: thing though by ego got away because I thought I 321 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: was reinventing the wheel. I'm sitting here telling all my 322 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: ward advice. I want to do this. Nobody has ever 323 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: done this before. The NFL players that were partnered with 324 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: Ibelie Schools and blah blah blah. You know, Google, Google, 325 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: call some people, Hey, man, you know this guy named Marcus. 326 00:16:53,200 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: He's doing exactly He's done with exactly what you wanted, man, 327 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: Like I fo. For me personally, man, it's always been 328 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: about paying it forward. And it didn't start with the 329 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: whole NFL family. They started with my granddad and my 330 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: grandma allowing us the opportunity. They worked their butt off 331 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: to allow my dad to have an education. My dad 332 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: and my mom worked their butt off to allow me 333 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: to have an education. You talk about a kid that 334 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: grew up in Kelton, Alabama. Two seventeen people I got 335 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: recruited the Dame on accident accident. Have you ever been 336 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: in Alabama? If you can fly in to Birmingham, it's 337 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: only about one or two ways you can get out 338 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: of Birmingham. One of those ways of the highway name 339 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: to eighty third Dame Flies in their recruiting kid like 340 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: named the Marcus Ryle. He's the number one lineback in 341 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: in the state, top three in the country. Alabama has 342 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: three schools named Central at the time, Central Tuscaloosa where 343 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: La Marcus went, Central Fiting City in central of Coosa 344 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: County where I go. Count That's that sounds small though. 345 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: You get on two eighty, you can go north and 346 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: it heads you towards tell Us Lucy. If you go south, 347 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: it heads you towards Cusa. They went south on accident. 348 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: They stopped at gas station. Gas station happened to be 349 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: owned by the father one of my classmates. They asked 350 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: her verbatim, we're looking for Central High School, not Central 351 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: Scenic Spinning City, just sim Central Central High School. We're 352 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: trying to recruit this linebacker. Didn't say his name, so 353 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: she's like, they gotta be talking about I'm a sophomore 354 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: at the time, so I hadn't really did anything yet. 355 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: But in a small town like that, you've got some 356 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: type of name. Everybody knows who Yorks like. They let 357 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: be talking about Jon. They watch so I was I 358 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: was about one night They're go and watch me play 359 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: I have a really good game. I ain't gonna say 360 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: no stats because I'm like bragging myself. But now you know, 361 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: somebody around said tackles food, touchdown, and they started recruiting me. 362 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: I got recruited on accident sophomore year. Sophomore year, the 363 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: name all for me, my first caulship. So what do 364 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you guys, uh, Marcus and justin particularly, 365 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: what gave you the confidence to think that I can 366 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: go into this field? How did you guys manage that 367 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: in a different arenas? Marcus, I think a lot of 368 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: it was just being able to interact with people and 369 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: see eye to eye with them, because I think, you know, 370 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: a lot of us have a tendency to you know, 371 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: we come from this football world and we you know, 372 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: we get into other in the other industries and other 373 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: parts of business, and it's it's intimidating at first until 374 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: you realize that you bring just so much value to 375 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: the conversation as the person you're talking to. You know, 376 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: you always have that confidence. No, no, I mean it 377 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: took a while. Just my personality by nature, I'm kind 378 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: of more of a I sit back, I don't I 379 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: only speak a lot I just kind of observed, you know, 380 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: it's been in a lot of these settings, just kind 381 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: of hearing conversations and and really understanding, picking up perspectives 382 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: and realizing that, like I actually know a little bit 383 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: more than I thought I new. You know, that's where 384 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: the confidence started to build to actually insert myself in 385 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: the conversations and really you know, start to try to 386 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: bring value the conversations. And you know, it's it's it's 387 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: a matter of just like in sports man, if you 388 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: if you put in the work, you also gonna get 389 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: to words to where you want to go. And it 390 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: just happens to be that the work is more education 391 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: you know in the business world than it is physical. Um, 392 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: so it's just a matter of laying the groundwork and 393 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, being willing to work and put yourself out there. 394 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: And the reason I asked that question justin I'm gonna 395 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: come to you in a second, Chester, is how do 396 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: we ignite those legends, right, those guys who have the 397 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: same capabilities. Right, they've had success on the field, but 398 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: they also have the ability to now and some of 399 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: these other areas they may have never considered. But that 400 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: initial fear, right because you've been doing this a lot 401 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: of times since you're four years old football, right, So 402 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: how would you encourage your guy justin that legend has 403 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: listened to this podcast, who probably I'm gonna just check out, 404 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: intimidated by this stuff. How would you encourage that person 405 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: past the feelings? Yeah? I think for me, it's about relationships. 406 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: Like we all know a lot of people in a 407 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: lot of different spaces, right, So I just used my 408 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: example as a as a guy that knew I wanted 409 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: to kind of learn more about finance. Well, I started 410 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: as an NFL player. Everybody wants to talk to you, everybody, 411 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: even if it's for just you know, say their friends. Ye, man, 412 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: I got a relationship with needs man, Like I've heard 413 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: that for many times. So I used that to my advantage. So, 414 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: you know, for example, you said you're five. For me, 415 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: it was probably about year seven. You're in New York City. 416 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: So I'm going to have meetings with the CEOs and 417 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: all these all these different spaces and these hedge fund 418 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: guys and he's private, active guys. Because you're hot. We 419 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: don't want two super bowls, and everybody wants to talk 420 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: to They want to talk to us about football. So 421 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: I'll be like, okay, let's talk about football just to 422 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: play I did this? What you what you're doing? Man? 423 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: Exactly that? And then I'm like, but but you talk 424 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: about the word fear. Yeah, I get that, but you 425 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: also have to be able to say, you know what, 426 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: I could be vulnerable in this space because they know 427 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: where I'm coming from. They know, like you just said, 428 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: they they put you down with out and even knowing 429 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: and they don't think. I don't think they mean to 430 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: do it. They ain't even personal. But but for me, 431 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: he would be explaining stuff and I'm like, whoa, back 432 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: it up because I can tell you about X on 433 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: the football field that you have no clue about, but 434 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: I can break it down to like where kindergarten will understand, 435 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: break it down from me from so that I started 436 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: the process. And then when they realize this guy is 437 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: actually interesting what I'm saying, because they got egos to 438 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: about their space. So they're like, okay, and that right, 439 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: because you you like, hold up right that you can't 440 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: humble yourself, Like there's nothing wrong with being confident. I've 441 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: been confident in my whole life, but I have always 442 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: carried around a level of humility and knowing how to 443 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: be humble, and sometimes you gotta show a little bit 444 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: more humility than you want to in order to accomplish 445 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: what you want to accomplish. But at the end of 446 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: the day, you gotta do what you gotta do to 447 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: get the job done. I mean, I get it. There 448 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: there's some guys out there that may have some discomfort, 449 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: they may have some fear. But at the end of 450 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: the day, are you going to be a mouse and 451 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: crawl into a hole and stay there forever, or you're 452 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: gonna give yourself a small goal, take half of a 453 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: baby step, and continue to build up the same I 454 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: mean that that discomfort and that that that anchs that worry. 455 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: There was a time when even in football and proposal. 456 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: But I don't I don't get what athletes do this. 457 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: They say, it's gonna take me so on to get 458 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: to the level of where I want to go in 459 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: this other space, Man, how long have you been playing football? 460 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: What the hell do you think you did? But when 461 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: you're a sophomore in complete? Oh, I was all pro, 462 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: But don't make a stuff. When I started playing football 463 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: in seven grade, obviously I'm better now or when I 464 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: retired because the progression, the same thing anything you do. 465 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: If I go right now and say I want to 466 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: be an engineer, even though I know a little bit 467 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: about it, I'm starting right here at the at the base. 468 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: So we're still telling about the process. With what profession, 469 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: what you're doing. You have to respect the process and 470 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: the like. Within in year eleven, I felt like I 471 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: knew everything it was to be to know about defense, 472 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: the end play. I was still in the fuel room. 473 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: I was still in the weight room. I was still 474 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: pining the right things to my body. I was still 475 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: going to my coach, like, listen, man, this in this formation. 476 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: I think they do this, but sometimes you do this. 477 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: But it's still a process. And that's after playing the 478 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: game for so long. I played with Charles Wilson. He 479 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: was in year twenty. He still was on the field, 480 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, thirty five minutes before anybody else running through 481 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: the ladders. He was still there, stretching all still doing 482 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: all the same things he was doing when he was 483 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: a young puck. Still is the process. That's what I 484 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: like to remind legends, particularly, just pay attention to environment 485 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: that we're in, think about the process. Think about this 486 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: in terms of just simple just being simple. I'm quite 487 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: sure you guys did this every every last practice. When 488 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: we got ready to pack our bags, did you guys 489 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: have a chee state tape two year locker helmet here, 490 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: lady to pack our bags? We we got checklist, right, checklist. 491 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: If we just sit down and spend time thinking about 492 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: the environments that we were in, which is the most 493 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: successful sports league maybe maybe beside soccer internationally, certainly in 494 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: this country in America, And just think about that. What 495 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: you said the process right, starting everyday practice the fundamentals 496 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: found it. Find out what those fundamentals are you mentioned earlier. 497 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: And when you're in co c J. You're coming this 498 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: you got a chip on your shoulder, You're coming in 499 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: and you at odds with the coach, right, and uh 500 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: it's no, it's no different, right? Is it any different? 501 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: Check this story? This is I think this story is 502 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: is really really good for what we're talking about. So 503 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm let me brag just for a second and saying 504 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: that in New York City you get the opportunity to 505 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: meet some very very, very very wealthy individuals. I got 506 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: a buddy of mine who if I said his name, 507 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: anybody in the you know, the head space, hit funding Space. 508 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: We know who he is. He's probably about sixty two 509 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: years on. Now we're on this plane. We're flying somewhere 510 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: I forget and he's very vocal. Normally on the flight 511 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: he likes to talk to see what we're doing. But 512 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: he's in the front of the plane. He has his 513 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: computer screens up. He's working. He's working. Has it said 514 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: it's about a far our flight He had and said 515 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: the words. And I'm reading a book of doing something 516 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, like, man, what's wrong this is? This 517 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: is not him? So I walked up front. He kind 518 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: of closes the screen down. I'm like, this guy, what's 519 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: going on? He was like, I mean, can't tell nobody. 520 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay. He open to screens up. It's the 521 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: online classes for Stafford University. I'm like, what in the 522 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: world are you doing. You're taking online class and staff 523 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: You're gonna make the school, So check this out. He 524 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: had been doing analysis on his business for like the 525 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: last four years and he had finally started to like 526 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: lose some of his grip in the space. I think 527 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: it's returns of like twelve percent. Now. He was like, 528 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm starting to slip. I'm getting into retire. 529 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: My kids about to go to college, but I want 530 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: to retire. On talk, this guy has ten billion dollars 531 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 1: whatever you wanna call it stupid, but he was sold 532 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: tuned into the process that he was taking online classes 533 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: because his business has went from being that, you know, 534 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 1: a people person like handshaked type business to be more analytical, 535 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: being more about the AI of finances. And he didn't 536 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: know that world. He was taking classes to understand that world. 537 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: And you mean to tell me for us that we 538 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: won't humble ourselves to say, man, I don't know about this. 539 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: Let me go and do my research. Let me go 540 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: and ask this guy you're talking about. The guy he 541 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: what worries? This guy got it? He made more money 542 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: on the inches of his money than all of us 543 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: whole career. And like that, that for me was like 544 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: one of the biggest I opened the experiences because at 545 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I struggled with ego myself. 546 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: I've gotten over it, but I still struggle with it 547 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: because to say, like, I don't I mean class, I don't, man, 548 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know this, don't I don't know this, 549 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: this operations model that we're working on. Yeah, let me 550 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: go ask somebody. You sit up there like you don't 551 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: know what to guess what, you're not gonna know it. 552 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: And I just felt like that story was really really 553 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: good for what we were talking about. What makes me 554 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: emotional about these podcasts, as many of our legends have 555 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: been families have been praying for a lot of us 556 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: to get these opportunities and the resources and the things 557 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: that we have access to that our ancestors never did right, 558 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: to not squander that just because the football career is over, 559 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: But here these stories to understand that we're brilliant people. 560 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,239 Speaker 1: And sometimes when you leave the game because you were 561 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: brilliant or you're very good at that, these podcasts remind 562 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: the guys that are listening, dudes, we've been successful at something. 563 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: I too. I didn't think I was highly intelligent. I 564 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: really relied on my brother. Even I got account degree, 565 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: I always followed my brother. But once I realized the 566 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: power of thought and the ability to figure out that 567 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: a lot of the great players who were successful, it 568 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: was one thing physically, we had to be in shape, 569 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: that's the baseline, but it was the ability to think 570 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: in this game right, Those are the guys that were 571 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: most successful. So, guys, this has been an incredible podcast, 572 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: saying it's incredible. So glad I got to do this. 573 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: This is really good. So I want to thank you 574 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: guys uh for just your honest dialogue. So if we 575 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: listened together and work together, we can accomplish incredible things. 576 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm a Ne S Williams. Thanks for listening. This has 577 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: been the NFL Legends podcast. To provide feedback or request 578 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: the topic for discussion, email us at NFL Legends at 579 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: NFL dot com