WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Decisions, Decisions 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:06.520 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:17.480 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:21.319 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:33.880 Star in Frisco. Now, your hosts Nicky Spagnola, Rob Phillips, 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:40.680 Everson Walls, and Bill Jones. And it's Tuesday, December thirty first, 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:44.879 two thousand nineteen, the last day of two thousand nineteen, 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:49.000 and the waiting game continues here inside the SWBC Mortgage 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:55.200 Studios at the Star in Frisco. This is today's Jason 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:59.800 and Jerry pregame show. Very good, Bill, Welcome to the 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.840 Games show. I haven't seen any smoke come out of 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:07.080 any window on the second floor up there, Okay, no 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:12.400 people flying out of the window. Oh no, Vatican, yeah absolutely, yeah, 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:16.880 No one's come, No one's been thrown out right. Yeah. 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.600 And so here we are to discuss what's going on 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.160 with this team as it's day number two of the 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:27.000 twenty twenty off season for this team New decade. Well, yep, 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:31.000 that's exactly right. It's tomorrow. Ye ter borrow, Micky don't. 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:34.160 And when we end this show, Mickey do not say, well, 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.120 see you next year. Or see you next decade. Okay, 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.679 how many decades have you lived? For now getting into 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:45.280 twenty twenty, he's a distractable player. I really got no, 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:51.040 I just dismissed your joke. That's all all right. And again, 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.800 supposedly Jason and Jerry are set to meet for a 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:59.760 second straight day here at the Star in Frisco. Yesterday, 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.360 Jason said the meeting would start around noon, and it 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.320 started about three or four in the afternoon, And so 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:08.240 we'll see if today's noon meeting starts at noon. It 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.680 wasn't up to Jason anyway, that's exactly I think that's 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:15.600 Jerry time here, and if he hasn't finished his player interviews, 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:19.720 postgame postseason interviews, that it may not start at noon, right, 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:23.799 Why everybody gets this noon thing? Hi? Noon? Yeah? I 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.600 just got to stop watch on it. Yeah, so all right, 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.280 soon get in my office. What is he saying goodbye 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.079 to everyone? Is that what you think it is? I mean, 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:35.240 what is the mean the interview talking about just just Jason? 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:39.640 What did they do that with you guys? When my 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:45.200 exit interview was with you guys? I remember that, you remember? No, 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:49.400 I'm talking about Jimmy Johnson, about coach at the end 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.400 of the season when you were still on the team. 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.360 Oh no, no, no exit interviews they have with you. 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:58.560 Oh we did not started that. I wonder when that started. No, 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:00.680 not even when you were at the Giant Answer or anything. 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.720 No one does exit interviews. Then that was back in 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:08.880 the nineties. Care about that. We didn't do exiting. What 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.720 about physical I don't recall one exit interview. Yeah, your 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.680 physical was okay, there's a purpose in that. And and 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.320 I just remember clean out my locker and you know, 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.720 even when it was the season was over. It wasn't 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:21.400 that I was leaving, but the season was over. You 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.480 clean out your locker, takes some stuff home because you're 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.720 not gonna be there almost every day looking at you know, 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.040 the other guys instead of looking at your family. So yeah, 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:31.880 that was that was it. That was the exit right there. 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:35.040 Did did you use garbage bag back? We did not 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.480 use garbage bags? No, no, no, we had we just 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.520 had bags. Okay. Yeah, so we didn't have the walk 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:43.640 of shame. There was no walk of shame or anything 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:47.200 like that. Yeah. But what Jason has done at the 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.800 end of every season as the head coaches, and they've 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.240 done that all the head righteous right, and and the 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:56.040 assistant coaches me with their position group the players as well. 0:03:56.120 --> 0:04:00.640 You know the quote unquote exit interviews. But I have 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:04.480 no contract, Then why are you interviewing people? Well, you 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:08.320 have no contract? So how does that he is still 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:12.000 so he's interviewing j Jerry's giving him his exit interview. 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:17.279 The thing that out the things that puzzled fans or 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:20.080 media whoever, is that you know, the Browns and Giants 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:23.239 would have had made made moves and they allowed coaches 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.600 to do eggs interviews that they go ahead and made 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.680 a change. So we'll see what they do. Um, but 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:31.039 those teams had already exited. They could have done the 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:36.640 interviews last week. That's that's true. True, That's that's true. 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:42.880 They were not the case. Yeah, So then what is 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:45.880 the purpose of Jerry meeting with Jason? You think, well, 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.640 I guess they're gonna talk. Look, I don't think this 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:52.080 is easy for Jerry. There's no doubt, you know, and 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.080 and and I think I said it yesterday, But in 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:59.680 the broadcast on Sunday, Troy Aikman was exactly right. He said, 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.000 the las last thing Jerry Jones wants to do is 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.640 not have Jason Garrett as his head coach, and that 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:09.000 was before we knew at the end of the season. 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.240 So and and he's right, this is not going to 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.840 be easy for Jerry to call him in that office 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.680 after all these years and say, Okay, this is what 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.800 I decided now, because when he made this higher in 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:25.120 twenty eleven, I'm sure he was hoping expecting it to 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:26.920 be his last hire. He was hoping it was a 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:31.600 Tom Landry's right, because he saves Tom Landry like right, 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:35.520 very corporate, even tempered. You know, you won't see him 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.400 flying off the handle. That's kind of what Jerry wanted. 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:41.360 He wanted someone that would memory Tom Landry as opposed 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.840 to Jimmy Johnson. I guess and didn't want that that 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.240 he didn't want that guy. Maybe he pulls a Clint 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.240 Murkison and comes out and says, I just signed him 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:53.719 to ten year. But people have to remember this relationship 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:57.400 goes back over twenty five years, really farther than that, 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.600 because Jim Garrett has been a huge part of this 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:05.280 organization too. I mean, this is there's a close relationship, 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:09.360 a close bond here like Zone. Yeah, definitely, Like Mix said, this, 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:12.720 this is not easy whatever. Here's the other part, relationship 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.679 right to a person that you you don't know nearly 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:18.719 as well as you knew Jason game with us. Here's 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:22.720 the other part of it. Supposedly Jason's contract doesn't expire 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.120 until January fourteenth. Okay, you get two weeks after the 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:30.320 last the last game. Although there's been conflicting, does anybody 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.560 really know Jake? I mean, Jake Glazer said Wednesday. But yeah, 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.440 but then when you think about it, Wednesday's January first, 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.960 you're probably saying, you know, twenty twenty. But I think 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.760 you're right where you get to mean, why wouldn't why 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.640 Why wouldn't expire Wednesday? If you were still playing this week? 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.000 Why would it expire January fourteenth if you're still in 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:53.160 the playoffs. No, you can say two weeks after the game. Yeah, so, 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:57.120 but but beyond that, I think that there is value 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:03.320 in Jerry picking Jason's brain about this team, this coaching staff, 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.160 and so forth. Okay, as the season is going on, 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.480 all right, you are not looking at the broad perspective 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.080 on Okay, what is this coach like? What is that 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.760 player like? Okay, because they've got and they've got twenty 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.360 five unrestricted free agents, Jerry and Steven have to make 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.640 decisions on do we bring this player back, do we 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:27.800 do whatever? You're respectfully talking with Jason and well, the 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:31.280 other part of it is, remember when Bill Parcels left 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.400 and Jerry interviewed what ten candidates And one of the 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.160 one of the reasons for doing that, and a lot 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.640 of teams do this is they bring as many candidates 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.640 as possible from as many organizations in so they can 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:46.240 pick their brain on how they run things in Carolina 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.200 or with the Rams or whatever, or you picked their 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.680 brains on specific players. It might be free agents. This 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:57.680 may be Jerry's way of having Jason interview for his job, 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.880 you know, and to hear what he has to say 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.640 about the team and about the way things have happened here. 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.480 There are things that maybe go on on a coaching 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:10.680 staff that Jerry and Stephen don't know about. That is, 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:14.200 you don't really know about what a person is like 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.200 on a coaching staff until you work alongside him. Okay, 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:21.040 when when you when you hired a certain coach, maybe 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.760 that coach you felt good about him, but then you 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.160 work alongside him for a couple of years for you 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:29.760 or whatever, and the guys on the inside say, wait, 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:34.480 that was a problem. Those are types of things that 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:38.240 Jerry can find out meeting with Jason, and I don't 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:41.880 know that the okay, right now, it looks like Jason 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.400 may not be a part of this organization, but who 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.080 knows on down the road. You know. The only reason 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.960 I disagree with that is because with the issues they've 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:54.640 been having doing different stretches, I would think Jerry has 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:58.959 already addressed a lot of them about the team. Right Um, 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:04.199 I wouldn't present I possibility, no doubt and that And 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.000 that's the only one I disagree with, because I would 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.240 imagine he wasn't gonna wait till the end of the 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:12.280 season to evaluate his players. He was he was trying 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.120 to reevaluate when we went three and old and all 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.760 of a sudden we start taking right. So I'm sure 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.920 some of the perspective what my teams you would have 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.760 exactly where do they go on? I'm sure they addressed 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:27.480 that already, probably right after Thanksgiving. I'm sure right after 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.200 Thanksgiving that was addressed, or even the three games stretch 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:34.320 of games in twelve days, So I would imagine they 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:37.480 already have that together. So to me, it still seems 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:42.400 like another issue. I don't think that is the issue. 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:45.120 That's the only reason I disagree on that. You know, 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.480 the thing on the assistant coaches, though, is valid. I 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.199 think maybe he And here's the other thing. I'm sure 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.400 people are thinking, Oh, Jason Garrett so mad, He's just 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.760 gonna pack up his bags and starm at the door. 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.160 And that's not Jason, right. He will complete the job 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:03.200 as they would every other year. Uh. And you don't 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.120 burn any bridges. Who knows you're sixty years old, you're 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.079 not coaching, and oh you need a scout? Yeah, I 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:12.080 still would like to do some work, right, And so yeah, 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:16.400 do you think Jerry wants to see Jason Garrett coaching 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.599 the New York Giants? Uh? No, I do not think that. 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:23.000 I mean that would be that's a nightmare. If he 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.200 were to move on and go somewhere like that within 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:28.599 the division and have immediate success. Here's wow. You know 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:33.360 there's another reason why you make the giants come to 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.640 you and ask permission to talk to your coach. Then 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.760 he's still under contract to you or you or you Okay, 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.959 they can wait until January fifteenth to talk to him. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.040 You know, I'll make you a deal. You can't talk 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.880 to Jason, but he can talk to Chris Rashard. That's 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:54.199 its definitely impossibility. Yes, yeah, and he didn't have to 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:57.480 if and I think Chris probably still under contract, so 0:10:58.200 --> 0:10:59.760 you know, he didn't have to let him do that. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:03.360 But when it's a head coaching job, it's Richards contract 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.520 up or you're saying he's under contract just as Jason 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.840 is for the rest of this contract. And even if 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:11.920 it was up, he would still have two weeks. And 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.640 so I come and ask for man, he's a coordinator, 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.240 he can go interview for a coaching job if he's 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.480 under contractor or was he a coordinator? Well, he's he's 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.920 a passing game he's not all I think there's a 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:27.000 fine line. Yeah, he's pass game coordinator. But regardless, he's 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.440 an assistant coach. He can go interview for a head 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:33.880 coach coordinator or not coordinator matter. Yeah, otherwise anything below 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:37.120 head coach considered a lot. He could not go interview 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:41.120 for the defensive coordinator position with the Giants. Well, I'm 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.040 you know, just as a black man, be proud for 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.280 the hire, you know, I mean that would be great, 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.240 be great for the Rooney rule and say, everything's working out, 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.959 but the coaching that he did here, I don't know 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:56.719 if he was. Um how how can I say I 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.360 don't know if he was. His decisions may have been trumped, 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:04.520 you know, the senior coach here. But I did not 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:09.439 see a good product. I did not see a good 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.400 product that he was coaching. You know what. It was 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:17.000 interesting and Mickey and Rob you might mistake more insight 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.160 on this. You know, it was that it was last 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.880 season where much was made about the fact that Chris 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:27.920 Richard is now calling the game during the game, Kay 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.839 and Mary Nelly working hand in hand with We didn't 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:34.000 hear as much about that or any about that this year. 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.599 I don't think anybody asked, but I assume that's what 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.200 it was still happening. Yeah, I think he still had 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.400 a lot of a lot of input on it. And 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:45.160 you know, even little things like, um, more pressure, well, 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.480 there's more pressure that comes with for sure. And and 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:51.200 Rod actually, you know these Thursday during the week where 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:55.240 the coordinators speak. Rod gave Chris the opportunity to do 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:59.199 that now and represent the defense alongside Kellen Moore every 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.360 Thursday with media. I mean, he he wants him, you know, 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:07.080 to be able to be visible and in position old 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.120 and don't feel like doing that crap. Probably a little bit. 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:17.640 You take responsibility for this, probably a little bit. Now 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:24.640 I'm too old for this crap. It's like Chris six. Well, 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.000 i'll tell you the other thing we did. You got 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.120 a good defensive from I'll talk to the media. You 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.599 talk to him. After that, I got this. Here's the 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.959 other guy we hear so much about. Remember at the 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.599 beginning of the season, the first six eight games, it 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.760 was all about Kellen Moore colin plays. And now the 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.319 last part we didn't hear much about, not much about that. 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.520 Jason didn't. You didn't know Jason was calling the plays 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.880 the last I think he was making some suggestions. By 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.080 the way, And that's one thing I saw with Jason 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:57.440 Garrett that you don't see with other coaches. I only 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:02.280 saw him talking on his I rarely saw him speaking 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:05.800 words doing a ball game, unless he's talking to the referee. 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:09.360 He did, he did. TV just didn't show it, okay, 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.400 And it's like the tree in the forest, you know, 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:15.679 the camera doesn't catch it. It didn't happen, right, So 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:19.120 when when when Amari Cooper's pouting on the sideline, you 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.040 get a shot of it, and it's like, oh, I 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.760 could have gotten the shot like that. Yeah right they did. 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.440 They did? Yeah nice the end of the what the 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:34.200 Philadelphia game? Yeah yeah, okay, oh he's not in the game. 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:38.360 Look at their right. But this thing with Jason, we'll 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.320 see what they do. But if they do indeed move on, 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.480 and it's a day later than everybody expected, what is 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.760 the big deal? Right? I mean, I mean everybody just 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.080 wants the story. I don't think it stops them from 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.680 if they again, if they move on looking toward who 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:58.400 they want to look toward. I guess just everybody thought 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.760 this was going to be this quick deal like the Kitchens, 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.840 the Cleveland Browns and then in the other Giants, Yeah yeah, 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.800 like in the what was it Lane Kiffin and the 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.120 on the tarmac you know kind of thing like and 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:14.960 and it came off the plane. Sorry, pack your bags. 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.560 This is you know this. We'll see what happens. But 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:21.520 this is an unusual circumstances, I think because the fans 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.880 and some of them me that just want Jason gone 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:27.080 so badly, you know, they just way to dump on 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.840 him as as soon as this happens, and everybody has 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.160 thought it's a fore gone conclusion ever since for the 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.720 last like it was just done, you know, and and 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:38.720 it's not yet, you know, we'll see and again that 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.880 nothing official yet. Maybe we get word today, maybe we don't, 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.040 you know, maybe we don't hear anything today. All I 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.720 gotta say is whoever takes the job bars pretty high, 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.760 buddy m because don't come in here and just tell 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.080 me you won the NFC East, that that's been done right, 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:57.840 Well there won a first round playoff game, and the 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.360 well they will win the NFC East next year. Ye 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:09.880 will not drag record that there will. The Eagles will 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:13.840 not win the NFCS And we have had well, letting hand, 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.760 the Cowboys have one one and every other year since 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:19.800 twenty fourteen. So let me give you a perspective. What's 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:24.080 what's the common denominay between fourteen, sixteen, eighteen and twenty 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:32.880 even numbers? Don't give me that odd stuff. 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The Cowboy players, some of 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:25.399 them still hanging out around here, some waiting to do 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:28.480 their exit interviews until today because there was too long 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:32.080 a line to get into the offices, or they didn't 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.119 get in time to do their physicals. There you go. 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.680 There's all sorts of reasons, although five of those guys 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:41.480 hurried up and signed their futures contract. You got that 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.399 little bit off the top of my head. I'd have 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:46.879 to go back and look it up, all right, because 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:56.000 I'm an intrepid reporter for you, Jordan Chun, Yes, those 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:59.359 are two recognizable names, right, all right? Did you ever 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.640 figure out how how to pronounce the tight Ends name? 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:04.960 Cole Haikutini? That sounds good, Okay, get it for you? 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:11.520 Tight End Tevin Jones, Center, Marcus Henry, d B d J. 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:16.399 White and that's it. No Thorson, Oh, I don't have 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:21.240 him on my list. QB. Clayton Thorson on the list. 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:23.240 I did not see his name on it. Okay, I 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:25.080 guess he's not on the list. Maybe he's looking for 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:31.240 a different future contract contracts, which means they'll be in 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:33.639 training well, they'll be in the off season program. If 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:35.960 they make it through the offseason program, then they'll be 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:40.480 in training camp and they'll be cut on September first. Okay, Wow, 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:46.919 did you get clarification on Michael Bennet. Yeah, he's got 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:50.440 a different designation. He's listed as not unrestricted to be 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.760 or restricted to be. He's just free agent. So I 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:57.360 I assume that means he could sign. He could sign 0:20:57.400 --> 0:20:59.440 a future still right if he wanted to, if he 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:01.960 wants to keep playing. You know, he's thirty four. This 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:04.359 would be his twelfth season. He's been He's bounced around 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:07.800 a lot um. He can't sign with the team right 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:12.920 now for the playoffs though. I don't know the answer 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:15.800 to that exactly. Yeah, I'm not. Maybe you knew, but 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:20.120 you would tell, Oh, now you get sometimes I didn't. 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:25.080 I didn't ask that the answer before you ask the question, 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:27.440 what is the answer, then I have no idea. I 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:29.639 don't know. I didn't ask first. I've learned because I 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:33.879 just saw him listed as void, like his contract was avoided. Well, 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:38.600 they did, right, they but it was two probably renegotiated. 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:42.240 They dropped the last year on the contract. So let's 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:45.200 say he is a free agent. He does he count 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:48.000 as an unrestricted free agent in that he would count 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:51.280 in the pool where you could get a compensatory draft 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:54.400 pick the next year if you signed. Okay, I don't 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:57.960 think so. That's probably the reason for the designation. Do 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:01.320 we as a cowboy to do we want him back 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:06.119 thirty four years old based on his awfully productive when 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:09.600 he was in there. Yeah, and you're talking about no preparation, 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:12.080 you know, you're just talking about the guy that came 0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:14.959 in here and we threw him in the mix, had 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.760 a short shelf life the last four or five teams 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:21.160 he's been with, or whatever reason. It's sounded like old Philly, 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:24.159 New England. And yeah, and maybe he doesn't want to 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:26.119 keep doing that, you know, but but it sounded like 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:28.960 things went well for him when he was here. And 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:33.080 he is from the East Texas area, so yeah, that 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:35.520 might be a convenience for him to say, you know what, 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:38.320 I'm about to settle down thirty four years old, maybe 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:41.720 thirty five by the time the season starts. Let me 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:44.040 see if I can settle in here. Depending on who 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:46.520 the coach is, depending on what the Cowboys want to 0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:49.000 do and how much they want to pay him exactly. 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:50.879 You know, that's what it comes down to, right, Well, 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:52.560 I mean when you're in your last you know it's 0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:55.600 coming around your last year, you just never know what 0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:59.199 kind of compromise can be made, right, that'd be interesting. 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:02.600 I think if I could use another million dollars, Yeah, 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:05.400 just a just a meal, maybe a meal five yeah, yeah, 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:09.040 And it depends who's gonna be coaching this defense, sure, 0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:12.480 and what defense you're playing. Yeah, if he's been around 0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:15.080 the league that many times, there might be a connection 0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:18.920 with whoever comes in, you know that be six degrees 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:22.440 whoever comes in, And I mean it might be something positible. 0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:24.639 But if Wade Phillips came back here and they're running 0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:27.280 a three four, he may not fit in a three 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:33.879 four way then coming back way. And if you if 0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:36.280