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Speaker 1: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and

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Speaker 1: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi,

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Speaker 1: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been

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Speaker 1: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.

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Speaker 1: Episode will discuss the reasons we now know that our

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Speaker 1: loved ones have survived physical doubt, and so will we.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Back in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: Robert Bigelow, founder of Bigelow Aerospace, created a contest looking

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Speaker 1: for proof of life after death. The Winners were chosen

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Speaker 1: based on the power of the arguments presented and the

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Speaker 1: essays they wrote about the human survival of consciousness beyond

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Speaker 1: a reasonable doubt, as though you were in a courtroom.

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Speaker 1: This essay contest was massive and people from all over

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Speaker 1: the world submitted application something like thirteen hundred people. Those

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Speaker 1: each creating a twenty five thousand word essay. There were

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Speaker 1: seven experts who decided on twenty nine winners. One million,

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Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand dollars in prize money was awarded in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas at a big gala in December twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: This contest was a critical turning point that established, beyond

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Speaker 1: after bodily death. So the good news is the website

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Speaker 1: Bigeloinstitute dot org has released all of the essays and

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Speaker 1: I'd like to sprinkle in during our upcoming episodes some

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Speaker 1: How about with the first prize winner, which is doctor

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Mishlov, who is a licensed clinical psychologist. He's an

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Speaker 1: Now you can read his full ninety eight page essay

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Speaker 1: out his website Thinking aloud dot com and his fabulous

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Speaker 1: Beyond the Brain The Survival of Human Consciousness after Permanent

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Speaker 1: bodily Death. Doctor Mischlov begins his essay not with abstract theories,

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Speaker 1: fueled by his own experiences and decades of research, shares

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Speaker 1: Am Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.

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Speaker 1: I'm Sandras Champlain, and I'm doing my best to summarize

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Speaker 1: doctor Jeffrey Mischlove's ninety eight page first prize winning essay

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Speaker 1: through a compelling what he calls bundle of arrows. This metaphor,

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Speaker 1: as doctor Mischlove explains, is powerful, just as American founders

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Speaker 1: Colin Rollo and Peter Sturik have shown that the bundle

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Speaker 1: near death experiences or NDEs. Researchers have collected thousands of

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Speaker 1: Those who have had NDEs report being convinced that consciousness

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Speaker 1: mind after death. The realms described in NDEs are often

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Speaker 1: He recalls colors beyond the rainbow, golden orbs of light,

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Speaker 1: This directly challenges the idea that consciousness is solely a

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Speaker 1: You're listening to shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. We are

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Speaker 1: continuing our exploration of doctor Jeffrey Mischlove's prize winning essay

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Speaker 1: are reported in about twenty percent of reincarnation cases. Psychiatrist

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Speaker 1: doctor Brian Weiss shares an amazing story where his patient Catherine,

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Speaker 1: under hypnosis and experiencing this intermission, state communicated with Weiss's

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Speaker 1: unknown to her, an experience that transformed doctor Weiss's life.

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Speaker 1: Peak in derry Anne experiences referred to surprising deathbed or

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Speaker 1: he had to go back and tell her parents that

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Speaker 1: she loved them and was sorry she wrecked her car,

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Speaker 1: the MGB. It turned out Anita had just died instantly

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Speaker 1: after crashing her new MGB, a fact unknown at the

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Speaker 1: hospital at the time of the man's near death experience.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Eben Alexander also had a peak in dary Anne experience.

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Speaker 1: During his near death Experiencevarians being accompanied by a beautiful

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Speaker 1: young woman that he didn't recognize. Four months later, he

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Speaker 1: received a photograph of his deceased birth sister Betsy, whom

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Speaker 1: he'd never known as he was adopted and realized it

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Speaker 1: was her. This was his ultimate proof of heaven. These

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Speaker 1: varied accounts, from precise debts revealed in dreams, to life

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Speaker 1: altering visitations and vertical information from an unknown other side,

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Speaker 1: it's time for our break, and when we come back,

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Speaker 1: we're going to move into another category of instrumental transcommunication.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. You're listening to Shades of the

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Speaker 1: Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sandra Champlain. We're continuing our journey into doctor Jeffrey Mischlow's

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Speaker 1: first prize winning essay Beyond the Brain. Let's now explore

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Speaker 1: instrumental transcommunication ITC, which involves communication with the deceased via

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Speaker 1: electronic devices. Some cases are truly remarkable. An early ITC researcher,

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Speaker 1: Constantine Raudeva, who died in nineteen seventy four, reportedly continued

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Speaker 1: his interest from the other side, with messages and even

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Speaker 1: pictures from him coming through audio tapes, videotapes, and computer discs.

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Speaker 1: Mark Macy and ITC author even tape recorded detailed technical

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Speaker 1: instructions coming from Raudova, whose voice was clear. Annabella Cardosa,

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Speaker 1: a former Portuguese diplomat, had made hundreds of audio recordings

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Speaker 1: using a technique called direct radio voice, tuning radios to

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Speaker 1: an emergency channel that normally only produces white noise. When

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Speaker 1: voices appear, she engages in two way conversations, even with

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Speaker 1: family members calling her by her pet name Bella, despite

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Speaker 1: no radio transmission coming from her end. Psychologist David Fontana

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Speaker 1: witnessed these communications multiple times and attested to their clarity

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Speaker 1: and directedness, ruling out stray radio voices or tricks or deception.

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Speaker 1: A two year study at Vigo University in Spain also

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Speaker 1: detected and independently verified many anomalous voices under laboratory conditions.

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Speaker 1: There are also documented phone calls from the dead. Researchers

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Speaker 1: Scott Rogo and Raymond Bayliss investigated fifty such cases, and

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Speaker 1: Callum Cooper has analyzed over thirty more. Cooper describes extreme

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Speaker 1: cases where a seemingly normal conversation occurs with someone believed

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Speaker 1: to be alive. Only later to learn the caller was

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Speaker 1: deceased at the time, with no phone company record of

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Speaker 1: the call. Doctor Mischlov himself had a minor experience while

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Speaker 1: lucid dreaming about his deceased friend Elizabeth targ and her

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Speaker 1: reported after death communications. Just as he was mentioning physical

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Speaker 1: manifestations in the dream, his bedside phone rang. Upon answering,

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Speaker 1: he heard only white noise, an occurrence he doesn't recall

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Speaker 1: happening any other time. Russell Targo also reported Elizabeth interfering

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Speaker 1: with electrical circuitry in his house shortly after her death,

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Speaker 1: witnessed by two others, where all the lights went off

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Speaker 1: might be trying to communicate A truly amazing itc case

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Speaker 1: involves a text message from the dead. Emmy Vadney, author

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Speaker 1: of Intuitive Development, reports after her mother in law, Sally Dixon,

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Speaker 1: died in twenty nineteen, Vadney's stepfather, Donald Emson, received a

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Speaker 1: text message from Emmy's phone at three point twenty three am,

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Speaker 1: saying glad it's over badne knew she hadn't sent it,

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Speaker 1: and her own cell phone records showed no such outgoing

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Speaker 1: message at the time, although other messages with her stepfather

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Speaker 1: were present. The logical conclusion drawn by Vadney and Emson

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Speaker 1: was at Sally Dixon, whose body was at the crematorium

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Speaker 1: at that hour, sent the message. Next is zenoglossy, the

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Speaker 1: ability to understand or speak a language one has never learned,

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Speaker 1: sometimes in archaic form. In the Jensen Jacobi case, a

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia woman of Russian Jewish descent, under hypnosis by her

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Speaker 1: medical doctor, began speaking in an old form of Swedish,

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Speaker 1: claiming to be a seventeenth century Swedish farmer named Jensen Jacobi.

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Speaker 1: He described his life and death, expressing fear of the Russians,

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Speaker 1: who he implied killed him. Swedish scholars confirmed the language

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Speaker 1: as Middle Swedish, and the family testified under lie detector

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Speaker 1: tests that none of them spoke Swedish. Doctor Mischlev says

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Speaker 1: mental mediumship also provides a vast trove of evidence. Leonora Piper,

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Speaker 1: extensively researched by William James and Richard Hodgson, is an example.

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Speaker 1: Her spirit control George Pelu, who had died, recognized and

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Speaker 1: correctly addressed twenty nine out of thirty sitters who had

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Speaker 1: known him in life, providing intimate details. This convinced the

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Speaker 1: initially skeptical Hodgson. Frederick Myers reportedly initiated complex experiments called

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Speaker 1: cross correspondences after his death in nineteen oh two, lasting

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Speaker 1: over three decades and involving multiple mediums receiving fragmented messages

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Speaker 1: that only made sense when combined. Gladys Osborne Leonard's mediumship

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Speaker 1: convinced Sir Oliver Lodge he was communicating with his son, Raymond,

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Speaker 1: who was killed in World War One. An amazing piece

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Speaker 1: of evidence was Raymond describing through two different mediums a

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Speaker 1: group photograph taken just before his death, including details like

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Speaker 1: holding a walking stick and someone leaning on him. The

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Speaker 1: Lodges received the photograph later, confirming all details. Other client

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Speaker 1: of Leonard, Katie Dawson Smith, was told by her deceased

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Speaker 1: son to find an old leather wallet containing a tiny

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Speaker 1: check stub, which later proved he had repaid a ten

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Speaker 1: year old debt when a firm demanded repayment. Forensic evidence

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Speaker 1: has also come through mediums. After the R one oh

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Speaker 1: one dirigible crash in nineteen thirty, medium Eileen Garrett experienced

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Speaker 1: an unexpected communication from Herbert Irwin the vessel's deceased pilot,

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Speaker 1: who described technical failures causing the crash. An independent review

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Speaker 1: by an airship pilot, William H. Wood, previously an atheist,

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Speaker 1: convinced him of survival, stating if this case does not

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Speaker 1: prove survival, then nothing else ever will Murders have also

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Speaker 1: been solved, like the Terracita Bossa case in Chicago, where

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Speaker 1: Boss's spirit communicated details leading to her killer's confession, and

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Speaker 1: the Jaquelin Pool case in London, where Pool's spirit gave

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Speaker 1: information to medium Christine Holahan that eventually led to her

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Speaker 1: murder's conviction years later using new DNA techniques on evidence

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Speaker 1: identified by the medium. The partnership of George Chapman, a firefighter,

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Speaker 1: and the spirit of William Lang, a prominent ophthalmic surgeon

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Speaker 1: who died in nineteen thirty seven, is perhaps one of

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Speaker 1: the most evidential cases for sixty years from nineteen forty

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Speaker 1: six until Chapman's death in two thousand and six, Lang's

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Speaker 1: spirit reportedly worked through the entranced Chapman conducting healing sessions.

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Speaker 1: Lang's personality, professional knowledge, and mannerisms were recognized by former

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Speaker 1: patients and family, including his daughter and granddaughter and medical

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Speaker 1: colleagues who held weekly seances for dec aids and were

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Speaker 1: convinced of Lang's authenticity. The astonishing chess match played between

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven and nineteen ninety three by living grand

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Speaker 1: master Victor Korchnoi and gaza At Morozzi, who died in

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty one via medium Robert Rawlins, also stands out.

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Speaker 1: Marazzi played at grand master level, exhibiting his known style

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Speaker 1: and provided correct details about his life, convincing even chess

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Speaker 1: legend Bobby Fischer of its legitimacy. Finally, physical mediumship, though

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Speaker 1: controversial due to accusations of fraud, offers phenomena like direct

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Speaker 1: voice and materializations. The spirit of Walter Stinson, brother of

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Speaker 1: medium Mina Marjorie Crandon, was known for direct voice phenomena

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Speaker 1: meticulously verified by researchers using devices to ensure Marjorie's mouth

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Speaker 1: was sealed shut one. His spirit reportedly manifested through other

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Speaker 1: mediums as well, including Mary Ann Marshall in Canada and

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Speaker 1: producing teleplasmic chords, and currently through UK medium Stuart Alexander,

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Speaker 1: where journalist Leslie Keene witnessed ectoplasm form into a solid

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Speaker 1: human hand that she touched. The Skoll group, studied for

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Speaker 1: two years by three senior spr researchers, produced a wide

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Speaker 1: array of phenomena, including apported objects like mint condition nineteen

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Speaker 1: forty newspapers, tiny animated lights, images on polaroid film, including

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Speaker 1: portraits and signatures of known individuals like Thomas Edison which

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Speaker 1: matched his own signature, and direct voice conversations, all under

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Speaker 1: strict conditions. The researchers and an observing magician felt ruled

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Speaker 1: out trickery. Doctor Mischlov concludes that this massive and consist

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Speaker 1: bundle of arrows from NDEs ADC's reincarnation studies, ITC, xenoglossy, mediumship,

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Speaker 1: and more provides no reasonable alternative to the conclusion that

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Speaker 1: human consciousness can and does survive permanent bodily death. This

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Speaker 1: isn't a surprising conclusion, he agrees, as belief in an

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Speaker 1: afterlife has been prevalent across cultures and history. He also

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Speaker 1: affirms a framework of metaphysical idealism supported by figures like

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Speaker 1: Max Planck, suggesting the universe is fundamentally mind like, making

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Speaker 1: survival natural and expected. Phenomena like terminal lucidity where brain

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Speaker 1: damaged individuals regain clarity shortly before death, and findings from

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Speaker 1: psychedelic research where profound experiences core relate with reduced brain

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Speaker 1: activity further support the idea that consciousness is not solely

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Speaker 1: Doctor Jeffrey Mischlev ends his essay Beyond the Brain with

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Speaker 1: a call to seriously map these continents of mind at large,

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Speaker 1: much like Renaissance explorers mapped new physical continents, recognizing the

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Speaker 1: work of past and present psych nuts who explore these

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Speaker 1: inner realms, This essay Beyond the Brain offers a wealth

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Speaker 1: of documented events and experiences, building an overwhelmingly persuasive case

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Speaker 1: for what many of us intuitively feel. We are more

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Speaker 1: than our bodies and that consciousness endures again. You can

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Speaker 1: read the entire ninety eight page essay and more at

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Speaker 1: Bigelowinstitute dot org, and be sure to visit doctor Mischlov's

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Speaker 1: YouTube channel New Thinking Aloud dot com and remember, come

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Speaker 1: visit me if we Don't Die dot com. So many

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Speaker 1: great things coming up, including our free Sunday gathering with

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Speaker 1: medium demonstration included. I'm Sandra Champlain and from the bottom

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Speaker 1: of my heart, thank you so much for listening to

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