1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: He picks up the chair. W w sta, I'm doing 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: it right now in the lound above his head smashes 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: it on the ground. We want to get to another 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: topic that's near and dear to our hearts. We're really 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: hitting all the big topics. Winter beer. He Yeah, were 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: surprised a little football. Yeah, I guess you should welcome 7 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: into the lounge. I am Ryan Mink and I'm Grrett 8 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Downing and we just want to start this thing off 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: today by apologizing. Usually the podcast comes out, our post 10 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: game recap podcast comes out on Tuesday's We're a little 11 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: behind this week. That's what happens when you play on 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: Monday football. Seriously, my internal clock, I keep thinking every 13 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: day is the day earlier, you know, I think today's 14 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: Tuesday if throws everything off totally. You get back from 15 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: New England getting bed for a m I don't think. 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: I think that's something that people don't realize. Is something 17 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: that people always ask me, is when you come back 18 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: from a road trip, do you stay there that night 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: or if it's a late game, you just go ahead, 20 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: stay there and then leave in the morning. No, no, 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: we it's postgame media session. Get on the bustles go 22 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: to the airport, fly back that night, no matter no 23 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: matter where you are, what time it is, you go 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: immediately back. So you know, the rough thing is it's 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: like an hour our fifteen flight from Providence down the 26 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: b W. I I work on some stories, do some 27 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: work on the plane. Got about forty five minutes left 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: in the flight. I'm like, do I just stay awake 29 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: the whole time until two am? Do I take or 30 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: whatever it is? Yeah, you're right? Or do I take 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: like a half an hour nap for that wake up? 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: As the plane crashes into the running, I feel like garbage. 33 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: Get three hours of sleep sucks? It sucks. But I'll 34 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: say the story for another day. But the story of 35 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: when I slept on art Model's couch, quick, save it, 36 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: save it, save it. We hold that one. It's a 37 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: pretty good one. It's a good one. But we only 38 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: have so many good stories, so we don't want to 39 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: use up all our good stories. So we gotta know 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: we got a good story for storytime later today. All right, Fine, 41 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 1: So that's that's an A plus teaser. All right, So 42 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: our email this week got a good one from Graham Reid, 43 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: who's calling from London. Yes, how you like London next day. 44 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: It's almost as bad as mine was and fun driving 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: every day terrible, So Graham says, season's greetings from London. Hey, 46 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: Ryan Garrett. My name is Graham and I'm a Ravens 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: fan from London. I am a huge NFL lover and 48 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: tune into my beloved Ravens on Game Pass every Sunday. 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: I just want to say how stoked I am that 50 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens are finally coming over as part of the 51 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: International Series next year. I've had season tickets to these 52 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: games for the past seven years, had to hear the 53 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 1: next year I'll get to see the Ravens thrash the Jags. 54 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: Is a Christmas present come early, so looking forward to it, 55 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: as I'm sure all the UK European Ravens fans are. 56 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: Love the pod cast. It always makes you laugh whenever 57 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: we win or lose. I particularly like the chats with 58 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: the players. Keep up the good work and ps he 59 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: had a little ps PSFC c Smith round. Please tell 60 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: them we need one more year out from London demands it. 61 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: We do have that kind of power, you know. Before 62 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: Steve makes his final decision, I'm sure he's gonna come 63 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: consult with us decide and we'll put in a good 64 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: word from Graham. Yeah, for sure. I'm excited about going 65 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: over there. And we need to take an episode of 66 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: the Lounge in London together, I think we do. We 67 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: need to find all our fans international. We have zero 68 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: Baltimore based listeners, all of them, probably half of them 69 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: in London. We need to find a nice bar, set 70 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: up shop, pub pub, right, nice pub, do it with 71 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: the podcast at a nice pub meet. I'll meet Graham 72 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: and his buddies, all the other Ravens fans there. That's 73 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: if you go, well, I'll be there. There's no shot 74 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: that you're actually gonna go. We've talked about the drafts 75 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: that we do on here. We do the Thanksgiving Day draft, 76 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: which we don't need to revisit because I was embarrassing 77 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: for you. But we One of our favorite drafts every 78 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: single year is that we draft the road trips because 79 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: Ryan I split up the road trips. So there's a 80 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: big deal. There's ten games. I have first pick next year. 81 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: Are you going to London? Are you going to Green 82 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: Bed next year? We've got London, We've got Green Bay, Tennessee, 83 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: potentially Oakland, San Francisco Bay Area that's a good one. Um, Tennessee, 84 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: Nashville is a nice road trip, right, good night in Nashville. 85 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: So the question is do I take London or do 86 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: I take the history of Green Bay. You're gonna blow it. 87 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: Either way, You're just gonna just gonna be tossing and 88 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: turning for the next seven months. The hope is, fingers 89 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: crossed that the organization says, you know what, and maybe 90 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: if fans send us emails at the lounge at Ravens 91 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: dot NFL dot net and they start saying now that 92 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: we need to do a podcast live from London, that 93 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: we can go ahead and get you on the plane. 94 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: I think I'll love here advocating for you. We would 95 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: definitely need to bring on some of our London listeners 96 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: onto the podcast when we're over there. I think we 97 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: would have to do that. We would have to do that. 98 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: I do, all right, So we should probably talk a 99 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: little little football, yeah, I guess we should. Yeah. Unfortunately, 100 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens didn't get that big win that we talked 101 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: about last time we were on the podcast, lost three 102 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: up there in New England. And uh, Garrett, to you, 103 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: what concerns you most about what you saw? I think 104 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: it was the regression of the offense. I mean yeah, 105 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: I mean I thought we all we're all singing the 106 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: offensive phrases after what we saw against Miami, and then 107 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like, okay, this is right 108 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: back to where we were. You know, the last two months, 109 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: three months of the season. It didn't look any better. 110 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: I mean that, So to me, that's it. You know, 111 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 1: where is this offense? What? Now you start to wonder, Okay, 112 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: was that Miami game in admiration? I think a lot 113 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: of people are asking that question. Um. I think the 114 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: other thing too. You know, this was a this is 115 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: more big picture, but this was you know, John Harbaugh 116 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: came into that game and called it the toughest challenge yet. 117 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: And uh, this game was a measuring state game. You know, 118 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: this was another game kind of like the Cowboys game 119 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: where you go up and you play one of the 120 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: best teams in the league and the Ravens kind of 121 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: failed to you know, I mean, the score is closer 122 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: than the game was. I think the score would have 123 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: been an absolute blowout had the Patriots not gifted to 124 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: turnovers deepens either their own territory they turned into touchdowns. 125 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: If take those two out of the game, it's a 126 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: totally different score. So I think it's that's the big picture, 127 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: is that it's a kind of a reminder that the 128 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: Ravens still have a long way to go if they're 129 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: going to play with the best teams in the league 130 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: in a tough environment. I think we both said going 131 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: into this game that if the Ravens are going to 132 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: be a dangerous team the playoffs, which we thought that 133 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: I thought they could be, Uh, then the offense had 134 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: to play decent to well yeah right, and the defense 135 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: was gonna play remain lights out. The defense. Despite the stats, 136 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: I mean, and Brady had the seventy nine yard touchdown 137 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: and all that stuff, I don't think the defense played poorly. Um, 138 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: it's tough when they put up thirty points. To put 139 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: up thirty points in almost five yards the total offense, 140 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: it's they didn't play great. I think what it is, though, 141 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: is it's come back to what we've said before. You 142 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: need started the game, you forced the Patriots and two 143 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: straight acounts and then all of a sudden, because of 144 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: a specialty is missed you by Devin Hester. You're on 145 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: you're on one. Then it's a safety I'm sitting there 146 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: looking at it. I'm like, the defense came out and 147 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: forced two straight three and outs and somehow the Patriots 148 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: on the on the board first. How does that happen? 149 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: It's unreal, unbelievable. Well, I think the Ravens address that 150 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: issue by releasing them and hester. But to me, I 151 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: think I look at it and say, the offense needs 152 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: to adjust better. They did not adjust well in that 153 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: game against New England. New England is unique in that, Uh, 154 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: they can come out with any variety of game plans, 155 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: Like watching past tape on them is not super beneficial 156 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: because they'll totally change up what they do on offense, 157 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: what they do up on defense every game. That's just 158 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: the way Bill Belichick runs things. And so the Patriots 159 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: usually were a man cover team and the man they 160 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: went more zone and the Ravens I don't think adjusted 161 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: that to that well. In the route running that they had, 162 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: the play calling they had, in what Joe Flacca was doing, 163 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: I don't think they adjusted well. And that's that's an issue, uh, 164 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: to this game specifically, and like you're saying, to a 165 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: larger degree, it's an issue that the offense isn't very 166 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: good right. And my question is did the Patriots give 167 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of a blueprint on how to stop 168 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: the Ravens offense? Because what it saw, what I saw, 169 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: what we had seen over the past i'll say month, 170 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: where they had kind of started to find success as 171 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: these crossing routes over the middle of the field that 172 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: underneath stuff, Well, they they took all that away. And 173 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: this is the novice football mind and me talking here. 174 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly why why that happened or how 175 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: you do that, but what it looked like to me 176 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: is they ran a lot of zone. They dropped a 177 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: ton of guys back in coverage and those crossing routes. 178 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: Those crossing routes aren't as effective when you've got eight 179 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: guys back there in zone coverage that they can just 180 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: stand there and the linebackers by dropping some of those guys. Yeah, So, like, 181 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: is that is that a recipe that we're going to 182 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: see other teams try against Flacco in this group moving forward? 183 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: It would not surprise me. Yeah. So other Raves make 184 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs, Um, they gotta win out most likely they 185 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: still could. There's a chance there's a chance to go 186 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: nine and seven, especially if one of those wins is 187 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: against the against the Steelers, because then you drop them 188 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: back in the race if you don't meet the Steelers 189 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: and you go nine. If you don't meet the Steelers, 190 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: I don't think you're making the playoffs. Probably not the 191 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: wild card. The Dolphins would have to lose. The Dolphins 192 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: have the Patriots in Week seventeen, so let's say that's 193 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: a loss, assuming the Patriots have something to play for. 194 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: The Dolphins would have to lose one of their other 195 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: two games, and that's against the Bills and Jets on 196 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: the road, so possible. But the Broncos have to lose. 197 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: They have Oakland Casey and the Patriots and the Patriots, 198 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: so that could very well happen, and then Tennessee is 199 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: the other team. I'm not super worried about Tennessee. So 200 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: the Ravens still, I don't think the wild cards totally 201 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: out of the picture, because I think the Dolphins are 202 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: probably in good position for that, but not looking good. Yeah, 203 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: I think I still think that it comes down to 204 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: whether the Raves coming these games, can they win these games? 205 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: How many times have we said it's going to come 206 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: down to what the Ravens doing a Christmas Day Oh, 207 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers. Yes, that game is obviously huge, But I mean, 208 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, this Eagles game, if you're in the wilder 209 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: picture of the Eagles game, the Bengals game on the 210 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: road Week seventeen, that ain't no gimme either. It's going 211 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: to have a j greenback. That to me is a 212 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: question of that game kind of depends on whether the 213 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: Bengals take on the mentality of the entire week of 214 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: let's spoil their season and just ruin it for them, 215 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: get them out of playoffs, or if they've got one 216 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: ft you know in the Islands, looking at vacation and 217 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: the end of the season and they're saying, all right, 218 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: this has been a long year that We've been a 219 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: doubt this for a long time. I'm ready to be done. 220 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure which grade it's gonna go. I think 221 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: it could go either way, And to me, it kind 222 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: of depends on that. I absolutely think the Ravens should 223 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: and that they will beat the Eagles this week. I 224 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: think we both agree on that. So then the Steelers, Steelers, 225 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: particularly if you don't have Jimmy Smith, Well, that's the 226 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: big thing we talked about, the defense being the strength 227 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: of this team. Which it is. Obviously, I don't think 228 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: without Jimmy Smith it's not the best defense in the league. 229 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: I just think it's not. It's still very, very good defense, 230 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: but the offense is gonna have to pick up some 231 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: of that slack I think. Yep, I totally agree, and 232 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: uh man, it's it's so tough. I feel like this 233 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 1: is kind of like a repeat of two fourteen to 234 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: a certain degree when you see Jimmy go down and 235 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: it's like your season to some degree flashes before your 236 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,479 Speaker 1: eyes because of how much he means for this defense. Absolutely, 237 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: So before we move on from New England, because you 238 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: can't do that fast enough, let's get into a little 239 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: story time. You know, last week told a story from 240 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: New England about going out to our favorite bar, and 241 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: you know the interview with quote unquote Ryan Mink that 242 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: happen on Providence Television. Well, I was reminded of another 243 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: story from New England when I went up there for 244 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: Monday Night football. Garrett, why don't you quit? Why don't 245 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: you kick this one off? All right? So this is 246 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: the two thousand eleven, same years the interview that was 247 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: this is two thousand and eleven AFC championship game or 248 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: up there, and it's the end of the game, and 249 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: Bryan I are sitting next to each other in the 250 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: press box, and there's the past that goes to Leevans, 251 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: and for a split second, he's got it in the 252 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: end zone, gonna take the lead going to the super Bowl. 253 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm seeing all of this, I'm seeing the Super Bowl rings, 254 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: sizing them up. In that split second, I stand up 255 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: to cheer. You're not really cheer. You're not supposed to do, 256 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: Garrett cheering in the press, But I stand up to 257 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: silently cheer. Yeah, right, get a better view, maybe get 258 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: a better for you of the play. Mind you, there's 259 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: about seven other people in our row, because we sit 260 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: in a row of a bunch of other Ravens executives. 261 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: All right, wait, let me take over the story, all right. 262 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: So Garris stands up. Garret stands up, sees the past 263 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: bounce out of Leevan's hands, are knocked out of his hands. 264 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: He picks up the chair. Wisa, I'm doing it right 265 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: now in the lound above his head, smashes it on 266 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: the ground. Just multiple, come on, that's not true at all. 267 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: The true story is I stood up in the back 268 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: of my knees hit the chair. Because you're crunched into 269 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: the press box, you have nowhere to move, You're packed 270 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: in there like a can of stardine. So I stand up. 271 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: The back of my knees hit the chair. I think 272 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: the back of my hulking legs bumped the chair and 273 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: then it fell backwards. Then I had to pick it up, 274 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: but it was like into the wall, like it was allowed. 275 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: Noise was like, it didn't make a loud noise. But 276 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: like I said, there was like five or six other 277 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: people on our row who had to do the exact 278 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: same thing, and it was pretty embarrassing. We had to 279 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: come pick up the chair, I'll give you that. But 280 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: the chair made the chair. The chair made a full recovery, 281 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: and I'm happy to hear that I did. I did 282 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: go over to our spot in the press box to 283 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: make sure the chair was okay. You know, it had 284 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: an achilles injury from that, and uh, it's made a 285 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: full recovery. So that's nice. Happy about that. Let's move 286 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: on from this. We want to get to another topic 287 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: that's near and dear to our hearts. We're really hitting 288 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: all the big topics. Winter beer. Hey, Yeah, we've been 289 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: talking about that. We did the Pumpkin beer discussion. Now 290 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: it's time to transition. Punkin Beer season is officially I 291 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: think for the most parking. It's now we transition to 292 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: the winter beer portion of the calendar, which I'm really 293 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: excited about. This is one of my favorite beer seasons 294 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: of the year. It's good, but not as good as 295 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: public all right, So before we do that, we want 296 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: to roll this audio question from Brandon Wholefoss that he 297 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: said to us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL 298 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: dot net. Hey, guys, how's it going. This is Brandon 299 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: from Baltimore. Just wanted to tell you guys of a 300 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: great Christmas beer. You have to check out right in 301 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: downtown Baltimore, right by the Washington Monument. You have to 302 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: go to Brewers Art and try St. Festivus. It's a 303 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: bit of a darker beer, but it goes great with 304 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: gender snaps and Christmas cookies. So definitely check out St. Festivius. 305 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: Great Christmas beer. All right, I got I can't agree 306 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: with Brandon Moore on the State Festivus holiday ale. That 307 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: is a nice beer, so I'm really glad that's number 308 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: ten on beer advocate dot com. Not just hot not 309 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: just uh holiday beers, like general holiday winter beers. Number ten, 310 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Yeah, that's across the country for a 311 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: local Baltimore Brewers are beer. That's pretty nice. Yeah. I 312 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: remember one time I wanna a little raffle at a 313 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: charity event, get a gift basket from Brewers Art. It's 314 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: got some safe festivals in there. Only problem is, I 315 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: want to admit so this gift basket was just clearing 316 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: out the old winterer stuff. Seriously, I think I had dust. 317 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I still drank it, but right, I wasn't 318 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: thrilled about it, all right, all right, So we're gonna 319 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: give you our top three winter beers. All right, I'll 320 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: go first. Okay. Number one for me is Great Legs 321 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: Christmas Sale. Alright, I'm from Ohio. Great Lakes is everywhere 322 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: this time of year. It's kind of hard to find sometimes, 323 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: and it's got a little bit of a cult following. 324 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: Didn't I bring you back a six pack? That might 325 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: have been the nicest thing you no bring me? Yeah, 326 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: I like you trying to flip that I bring you 327 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: a six pack and you try to make it seem 328 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: like you did something nice for me. I brought you 329 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: a six pack and I showed you the light. You 330 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: got to agree. It's very it's a very good beer. 331 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: Number two on my list Flying Dog. I went to 332 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: Flying Dog actually their brewery maybe three or four weeks 333 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: ago and they had their full holiday collection out And 334 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: first of all, I love the brewery out there. It's 335 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: ever been out there. And Frederick, yes, I have yeah 336 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: company times a lot to talk about that. Yeah, all right, 337 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: and uh it's great. And they had their whole on 338 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: tap all these holiday bruise. One of my favorites was 339 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: the nice. They did the naughty and the nice. They 340 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: have a nice milk stout that I'll love that. So 341 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: that's number two on my Latin Naughty is the Eggnogale. 342 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: Oh that's good too. Yeah, that's good too. I just 343 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: I liked the nice. And then the third on my 344 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: list is this is a classic. This is old faithful 345 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: Sierra Nevadas celebration. Yeah. I think that's solid. It doesn't 346 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: do a whole lot for me though, you know, it's 347 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: just yeah, it's kind of a bland, I think, in 348 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: my opinion. All Right, My number one, I'm going St. 349 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: Festivus you're saying Festivus is really good. So I'm gonna 350 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: nothing better than a state Festivus in May. Yeah. Perfect. 351 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: In December, we'll go with that number two. I'm going 352 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: Great Lakes Christmas Sale. So I'm hopping on board all right. Actually, 353 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: like I said, I show you the Light and the 354 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: Flying Dog can I Winter Warmer. I was going with 355 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: that one, not the nice brewer with carda um vanilla 356 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: bean and cocoa little coco in there is a nice 357 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: hint during this time. You don't even know what carda 358 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: mom is, do you. That's like what it is. It's 359 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: like a cardigan sweater. Really good. And I was so. 360 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: I was still a little research for this, right, just 361 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: to make sure I had all my teeth cruss. That's 362 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: probably the most research you've done. This is the first 363 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: time I've done research for the podcast Beer Advocate dot com. 364 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: My favorite kind of research. There's this one that I 365 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: stolen con upon called Special Holiday Ale. It's made by Nona. 366 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: It's like a collaboration non Jolly Pumpkin artisan ales. You 367 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: get the key word in there, Yes, Pumpkin and stone 368 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: Stone Brewing comping. I like Stone a lot. I gotta 369 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: try that out special holidays the number one. This was 370 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: really high. This was like, I think rate above the 371 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: same Festivus. Okay, so I gotta and then nn Saki 372 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: Slayer I want to throw out it's also shout out 373 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: for and then Cassie Slayer shout out for them, alright, 374 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: thing Costan beers. Okay, all right, so there we go 375 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: those we're hitting all the main topics. And if you 376 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: guys have beer suggestions that you want to show, we've 377 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: actually got a number of good emails. We got the 378 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: one the audio question there from Brandon, and we've got 379 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: some other emails that we're reading and we're reading the 380 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: next coming weeks. But again the lounge at Ravens on 381 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: NFL dot Net, let us know your favorite winter beers 382 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: to drink away your storrows after that loss to the Patriots. 383 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: Should we talk more football? We can mix saying some 384 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: football talk in this beer podcast. Alright, So the Philadelphia 385 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: Eagles come to Empty Bank Stadium this Sunday, and to me, 386 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: this is a classic can overlook them kind of game. 387 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: I mean, the Eagles started with three straight wins to 388 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: begin the season, including a total blot Loompen of the 389 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: Steelers I remember watching that game to three or something 390 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: like that clubbed them. Uh, there are toasts of the 391 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: town in the NFL. Now they have gone on a 392 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: little bit of a losing skid, last sixth straight I 393 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: think six or last seven. Yeah, uh so, but they're 394 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: they're talented team. What stands out to you about this 395 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: game and about the well, I think it's what you said. 396 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: It's that you can't overlook this game. I mean the Ravens, 397 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: they absolutely should win this game. It's a rookie quarterback 398 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: at home. He's kind of fallen back a little bit. 399 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: I think HiT's the classic. He went out there, played 400 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: really well. The league starts to get some tape on him, 401 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: and they start to figure figure you out a little bit. 402 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: And that's kind of what's happened with Carson Wentz and 403 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: he has to adjust. But the Ravens have had all, 404 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, they've had time to prepare for this game. 405 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: In the sense of the tape is out on him, 406 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: he's not surprising anybody. And uh, like I said, rookie 407 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: quarterback at home, Ravens defense should give him a lot 408 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: of trouble. I think that the Ravens should win this 409 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: game fairly handedly, to be honest with you, I just 410 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that the Eagles are a great team. 411 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: I think they are at okay team. And if you're 412 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: a team like the Ravens, who know you have to 413 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: win out and you're fighting for a division championship and 414 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: you just came off kind of a tough, little bit 415 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: embarrassing performance on Monday night football at home, you gotta 416 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: win this game. Well, I think to me, it's, uh, 417 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna see the effect of perhaps not having Jimmy Smith. 418 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: Doesn't look good for him in this game. Not gonna 419 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: rule him out already, but you know, look like a 420 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: pretty serious injury. And uh so, I think the Eagles 421 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: are probably one of the better teams to match up 422 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: against without Jimmy because it's not like they have a 423 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 1: Dez Bryant. They don't have an AJ Green, you know. 424 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: I mean, their wide receivers aren't these big body guys 425 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: who you say, that's who we need Jimmy to cover. 426 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: So can the Ravens secondary kind of rally perhaps without 427 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: Jimmy and play well against Eagles. That's a huge thing 428 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: to watch this And then it goes back to the 429 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback thing. You know, because it's he's that's the 430 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: guy who's throwing the ball. And like you said, if 431 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a game that he kind of misses, 432 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: this is a good way to start that, especially if 433 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna miss a couple of games here to end 434 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: the season. Well, let's hope we have him against the Steelers. 435 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: That would be nice, but you never know. Yeah, very true. Well, 436 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening to our beer and 437 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: what else did we talk about on this podcast? London? London? Yeah, 438 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: just stories from New England, beer and London and a 439 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: little bit of football mixed into the podcast. Thank you 440 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: all for listening. We'll be back with you later this week. 441 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to linebacker Zachary Or That should be 442 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: a special treat. Thanks listening to emails at the lounge 443 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Lead to leave a 444 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: rating and review and we'll be back there this week.