1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 2: It's important to teach children about their body, to have 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: autonomy over their body, to also know, like I know 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: what is okay and what is not okay. So if 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: somebody is out of line, that child knows that that 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: is not okay, and they know to tell their parents, 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: or to tell a teacher, or to tell somebody if 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: they're in a position where they need help, you know, 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: and shaming them and making them feel bad will make 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: them feel bad to even share information with anybody in 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: a situation where they might need help. 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration, 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: or a fresh perspective. If you have any AHA moments 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: or appreciate anything from this episode, please leave us a 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: review to let us know we're on the right track. Also, 16 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: we release episodes every Friday, so be sure to subscribe 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: on iTunes and visit Cultivating her Space dot com to 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: access our exclusive after show and other bonus content from 19 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: the Patreon tab. 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting 21 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: women like you. We're your hosts, doctor Dominique Broussard, a 22 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: college professor and psychologist. 23 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 4: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker in a 24 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 4: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood. Please 25 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 4: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from 26 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 4: five rooids to fake friends, and create a safe space 27 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 4: where black women can just be. 28 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: Hey, lady, is doctor dom here from the Cultivating her 29 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 3: Space podcast? Are you currently a resident of the state 30 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: of California in contemplating starting your therapy journey? Well, if so, 31 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: please reach out to me at doctor Dominique Brussard dot com. 32 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: That's d R D O M I N I q 33 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: U E b R O U ssar D dot com 34 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 3: to schedule a free fifteen minute consultation. I look forward 35 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 3: to hearing from you. 36 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 4: All Right, lady, today, we have a very special show 37 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: for you. This show today, it might make you clutch 38 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 4: your pearls. Okay, So you may want to put the 39 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 4: kids down, You may want to put your headphones in. 40 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 4: I don't know. You may want to grab your vibrator 41 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 4: for this conversation, just saying okay. We have two very 42 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 4: special guests today, and I think it's safe to say 43 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 4: that these are the sexiest, most multi dimensional guests that 44 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 4: we've had on the show, so let's jump on in 45 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 4: jet Setting. Jasmine is a licensed psychotherapist and owner of 46 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 4: Blue Pearl Therapy, a virtual mental health practice specializing in intimacy, 47 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 4: post injury, trauma, illness, and sex positive parenting. Jasmin is 48 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 4: the co owner, alone with partner King Noir, of Royal 49 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 4: Fetish Films, where the love of the arts, film and 50 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 4: sex education are combined to produce content that stimulates and 51 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 4: engages the audience to explore sexual boundaries. There's so much 52 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 4: more that we can say about Jazz and but we 53 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: want to tell you a little bit about her partner, 54 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 4: King and then we're going to jump into this juicy conversation. 55 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: King Noir is an accomplished and award winning writer, porn performer, artist, 56 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 4: master fetish trainer MC and global activists. Using the proceeds 57 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 4: of his album Music is My Weapon to build a school, 58 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: freshwater well and medical clinic in Guinea Bissau, West Africa. 59 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 4: He has used his position in the adult industry to 60 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 4: develop an ethically made molded toy in partnership with Lusted Arts, 61 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: raise consciousness around kink safety for people of color, provide 62 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 4: lectures on the decolonization of sexuality and offer sex education 63 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 4: to audiences ranging from college to sud to medical providers. 64 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 4: All Right, King, newar and jet setting, Jasmine, welcome to 65 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 4: cultivating her space. 66 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 5: And hell hello, thank you for having us. 67 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: We are so excited for this conversation and we are 68 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 3: going to start off with our quote of the day. Now, King, 69 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: these words will sound familiar because these are your words. 70 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: We've been watching videos and listening to the podcast and 71 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: all in your social media and this quote right here, yeah, 72 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 3: oh is right. So the quote of the day. If 73 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 3: you're in a relationship where you don't feel that you're 74 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: comfortable to be able to share who you are naturally 75 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: with somebody, chances are you're probably in the wrong relationship. 76 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: And I'm gonna say that one more time for the 77 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 3: people in the back. If you're in a relationship where 78 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: you don't feel that you're comfortable to be able to 79 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 3: share who you are naturally with somebody, chances are you're 80 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 3: probably in the wrong relationship. Now, King, we know we've 81 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: been listening and we know that sometimes that quote can 82 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: get you into a little bit of controversy. So when 83 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: you initially spoke those words, was what was the intention 84 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 3: behind that quote? 85 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: I don't even think it's controversial. I think that a 86 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 2: lot of people need to use me as the reason 87 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: that they break up with shitty partners, and I'm here 88 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: for it. I think the intention A lot of times 89 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: people ask like a lot of questions, like kind of 90 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: like leading questions because they know where they want to go. 91 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: They're like, oh, I'm really unhappy. What should I do 92 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: in a relationship? You should be happy? You know what 93 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: I mean? Like I don't. I feel like people ask 94 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: me those questions a lot, kind of like, well, King 95 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 2: said that we need to break up. That's why they. 96 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 4: Asked that spot on That makes perfect And I think 97 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: in one of the interviews that you all did and 98 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 4: you brought that question up, you were like, people get 99 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 4: upset about it, but it's the truth, right. And So 100 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 4: what we want to do is before we get started, 101 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 4: we want to just know each of your origin stories. 102 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 4: So just to kind of give us the high level 103 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 4: overview of how you got to where you are today. 104 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 5: Okay, so the high level overview is it's always been there, 105 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 5: It's taken some time to come to this point. 106 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 4: I think that. 107 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 5: That's probably the highest level that I can that I 108 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 5: can say, is that it's taking a while to expose it. 109 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: But before exposing it, to accept. 110 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 5: It, to roll around in it, to play in it, 111 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 5: and to make your minds. My background is a mom, 112 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 5: that's first. So that little voice that you hear in 113 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 5: the background is our fourth child, Royal. And you know, 114 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 5: I did all the things. I go to school, get 115 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 5: a degree, get a career, raise some kids, start wearing 116 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 5: boring clothes, go to the meetings and the rehearsals and 117 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 5: all that stuff. 118 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 6: And then I met this really, really cool dude that 119 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 6: was like, you could do all of that. 120 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 5: And I had already been dabbling a little bit at 121 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 5: the intersections between therapy and sex work and sex education 122 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 5: by hosting toy parties and really getting to the root 123 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 5: of why we were all there. It was to be 124 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 5: able to freely talk and explore sex topics. And one 125 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 5: of the questions that kept coming up was, you know, 126 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 5: why do men like this? 127 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 4: And why do men do this? 128 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 5: And why you know, sort of like he was saying earlier, 129 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 5: like they're asking questions if they kind of already know 130 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 5: what the answer is. But if we just keep asking it, 131 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 5: maybe we can figure out another route to our final destination, 132 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 5: which was sexual liberation and that led to me seeking 133 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 5: out a man that could speak to a lot of 134 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 5: those topics, and my partnership with King Yuar started at 135 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 5: that point and we just really and I like King 136 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 5: of course fill in the guest, So we really brought 137 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 5: everything from our backgrounds, from therapy, activism, education, textliness, all 138 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 5: of it into where we are today, which is our 139 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 5: brand of Royal Fetish films and Jefson and Jackson. 140 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 4: Beautiful, thank you for sharing. We appreciate it all right, Ken, 141 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 4: you're going to dive on in. 142 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: I guess it all started for me in Jersey and 143 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: I was raised by a mother who told me that 144 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 2: no matter what it is, you're doing life if you're 145 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: not doing it for your people, and it ain't shit basically, 146 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: and I have done every single thing that I like, 147 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: I've learned activism, you know, like I was active from 148 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: when I was younger, from things that were going on 149 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: in our community and our neighborhood, from police terrorism to 150 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: housing rights to you know, health, which is my mother's specialty, 151 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: we specialcy, like what she's been focused on. She's a 152 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: health activist. And then it got into the streets because 153 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: I was a knucklehead and I learned a whole lot 154 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: out there as well, and they kind of led me 155 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: to sex work at the age of eighteen, and from 156 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: there I learned what was bad about the industry that 157 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: we are now in. I spent a whole lot of 158 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: time doing music and touring the world as an artist 159 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: and working through activism in all parts of the world, 160 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: from Guinea Busad to Palestine to Jersey, La all over. 161 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: And when I met Jasmine, I was back doing sex work, 162 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: like dancing at parties and things like that, but knowing 163 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: that I wanted to do more. And Jasmine had the 164 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: outsider's perspective of I don't like porn because of how 165 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: black people looking for like they don't put us on 166 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: the same sets, they don't give us lotion. I had 167 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: the experience of being in the industry where it's like 168 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: being treated as a fetish instead of engaging in the 169 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: fetishes or having to deal with racist people that are like, 170 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: you look Puerto Rican? Can you play a Puerto Rican 171 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: on film? I'm like, I don't know how that works, 172 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it's like both of 173 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: our experiences, both from the outside and the inside of 174 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: the industry culminated in like this is what we can 175 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: do to inspire our people, you know, turn them on, 176 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 2: educate them, and then also, you know, at the same time, 177 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: reclaim and we were in the process of learning as well, 178 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: like reclaiming the sexuality that has been basically stolen from us, 179 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: like everything else was stolen from us, and finding out 180 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: who we are as individuals and where that fits into 181 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: you know, Pan Africianism and sexuality. 182 00:10:54,360 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 3: Wow, thank you for that. The story of how you 183 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: all connected and what you all have built together is beautiful. 184 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 3: And so before we dive further in, because I know, 185 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: as we get into this conversation, get deeper into the conversation, 186 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 3: we're going to be using lots of words that some 187 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: folks in our audience either have never heard before or 188 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 3: have no idea what those words mean. So can we 189 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: go over a few definitions? 190 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: All right? 191 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: So one word that you all already used, fetish? What 192 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 3: is that? 193 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: A fetish is anything that turns you on that is 194 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: not directly correlated to procreation. So think of the things 195 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: that can turn you on about a man or woman 196 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: or anybody. You know, people be like yo, I have 197 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: a I know people all the time like I don't 198 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: have a fetish, like dude, you're asked men, Yeah, yeah, 199 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: I love ask Okay, then you have an ass fetish 200 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: because that's not going to get some body pregnant or 201 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: women are like ooh, I love a man's back, you 202 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Like all these kind of things. 203 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: It's like those those things that doesn't people always take 204 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: it to the extreme when they think about in their 205 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: heads were always presented with fetishes. It's like latex and 206 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: leather or feet specifically as a body part. But everybody 207 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 2: has them and they're as unique as human beings. Are you. 208 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: All right? 209 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: Thank you? 210 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: Now? Kink what a kink? 211 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 5: So, kink is really anything that is out any sexual 212 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 5: act that is outside of what that society of culture 213 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 5: would consider the norm. So it's really huge, right, And 214 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 5: I like to think about it as a huge sexual 215 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 5: umbrella that includes all of our preferences and proclivities underneath it. 216 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 5: So when people say like, oh, you kinky, I get 217 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 5: to say, like, so are you, because I guarantee there's 218 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 5: something that you're into. Do that for my own like 219 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 5: norm would be skinky or outside of my norm? And 220 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 5: I like to allow us to define what our normal 221 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 5: is not just what our society says is normal and abnormals. 222 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 5: There's a lot of there's a lot of things that 223 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 5: we have normalized that are abnormal and vice versa. So 224 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 5: I like to think that we're all kinky. We have 225 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 5: lots of ways that we have sexual expressions that may 226 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 5: be different from the person's sitting next. 227 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: I like how you put that. Now, how are fetishes 228 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: and kinks developed? 229 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 4: Ooh, this is a good one. 230 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 5: So there's a lot of different ways that we come 231 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 5: to what we enjoy about sex and our sexual expressions. 232 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 5: For some people, it is something that happened when they 233 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 5: were really young. I find with a lot of my clients, 234 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 5: the first time that they experience a turn on, a 235 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 5: sense of sense arousal in their senses, not even necessarily sexual, 236 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 5: or an experien that's very comforting, can develop over time 237 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 5: into a kink or a fetish. So you know, sometimes 238 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 5: it's not even something sexual, it's just something that caught 239 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 5: caught your sensual or excuse me, your senses and that 240 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 5: attention at a very young age that stuck with you 241 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 5: that maybe makes you feel safe or makes you feel excited. 242 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 5: For others, it's something that you've seen as you've gotten 243 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 5: older and decided that this feels good, or this makes 244 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 5: me feel powerful, or it makes me feel a relief, 245 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 5: And we've incorporated that entire sexual repertoire. So, as King mentioned, 246 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 5: everyone can have a kink and or a fetish. It 247 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 5: doesn't have to look a particular way or be developed 248 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 5: over a particular time. It's just that it gives you 249 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 5: some type of sexual gratification or arousal when introduced to 250 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 5: your play. 251 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 4: That is super helpful. And I love the word destigmatizing 252 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 4: kings and fetishes too, because I think in one of 253 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 4: your interviews, King, I think you said something like, when 254 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 4: people hear the work, can they think of did you 255 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 4: say feet and late to or feet in leather or 256 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 4: something like that, And it's like, it doesn't necessarily have 257 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: to be that. So we're going to go over a 258 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 4: couple more definitions and then we're going to jump into 259 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 4: this conversation a deeper conversation. So can you define for 260 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 4: us polyamorous? What is polyamorous and what's the difference between 261 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 4: polyamorous and polygamy. 262 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: Well, polyamory find is love of many, so just the 263 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: ability to fall in love or build love and maintain 264 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: love with multiple people. Usually when people are saying I 265 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: am or someone is polyamorous, it's more in the romantic 266 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: love kind of sense. And then polygamy is when a 267 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: man is married to more than one woman. Doesn't have 268 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: to be love all could just be financial decision, you 269 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: know in some societies, or religious decision. But polyamory has 270 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: to do with the love, doesn't have to do specifically 271 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: with life any form of paper or contract. And then 272 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: polyandery is when a woman is married to multiple men. 273 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: Okay, so I know, so we have multiple, multiple definitions 274 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: so far. Now what is a play party? 275 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: Play party can be either a swingers party or like 276 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: Usually it's related to either a swingers party or a 277 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: BDSM party where a group of adults get together and 278 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: people know kind of like at this party there will 279 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: be either some form of sex or a sexual kind 280 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: of nature to it. Usually there's some kind of organization 281 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: behind it, you know, people plan on the people don't 282 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: just show up there and be like, oh shit, I 283 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: didn't know this was about to happen, you know what 284 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: I'm saying. But like people, either whether it's a limited 285 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: guest list or it's open to the public, people know 286 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: that either it's going to be like a BDSM event 287 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: or swingers kind of event. 288 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: Okay, so you've got to use this word a couple 289 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 3: of times BDSM. 290 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: What is that? BDSM is usually broken down to bondage, 291 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: dominant submission, or sadism and masochism. So it is kind 292 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: of like a grouping of a lot of fetishes that 293 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: people usually put together. You know, you can you can 294 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: be a sadist or a masochist and not particularly be 295 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: involved in bondage, you know, but a lot of times 296 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: people automatically think like, if there's bondage involved, then there's 297 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: some DSM going on with that, be you know what 298 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 2: I mean. So I think that there's that grouping and 299 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: then there's there's a couple other ways that it's broken down. 300 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: But that's kind of like the core of it, jazz. 301 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 2: Is there anything I'm missing on that one? 302 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 3: Yep? 303 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 4: I think. 304 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 3: What's the difference between a play party and a sex club? 305 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: Play party can be anywhere people have play parties at 306 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: their own home or maybe you know, I've been the 307 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 2: one where they rented out a warehouse. You know. A 308 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: sex club is like an established club that you you know, 309 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: where it's going to be tomorrow, like that club has 310 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: a it's a brick and mortar, like a play play 311 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: party can be you know, like some people that they 312 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 2: do have like traveling kind of groups where they'll you know, 313 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: maybe go to Tahito or go to Desire or something 314 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 2: like that. But you know the club is going to 315 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 2: be there when you get back. The play party might 316 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: not be there tomorrow. It might have been a one 317 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: night event. 318 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 4: You know, at the play party, you don't got to 319 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 4: go home, but you got to get up out of here. 320 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: Right. 321 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 4: So that's a good good way to describe it. Okay, 322 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 4: so we've laid the foundation right. As you all probably 323 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 4: noticed with the conversation, we're easing it in, right, Domina 324 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 4: I have been been using that mantralate like we're easing 325 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 4: into life. So we're easing into the conversation. We got 326 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 4: the definitions down with the foundation. I think one of 327 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: the most fascinating things about you two is that, from 328 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 4: what we've seen in our research, you all have really 329 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 4: on full display the parts of yourselves that many people 330 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 4: hide or keep behind closed doors. And it's so fascinating. 331 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 4: Let's just before fully transparent to see you lecture and 332 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 4: speak so eloquently about a topic and then to go 333 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 4: on to royal fetish films and to see y'all getting 334 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 4: it in and it's just like, it's like a mindfuck, right, 335 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 4: because you don't see that in everyday life with folks 336 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 4: that we need. So I want to know what has 337 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 4: it been like, I guess either coming out to your 338 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 4: family or when your family and friends that knew you 339 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 4: before you started these businesses, what has it been like 340 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 4: having other folks know about this part of you and 341 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 4: this lifestyle. 342 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 5: It's funny that you say that, because really we all 343 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 5: live very similar lives, right, you know, Like you go 344 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 5: to work wherever your place of work is, even if 345 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 5: it is in the sex industry. You log onto a 346 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 5: computer and you do some admin work, right, You have 347 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 5: co workers, and you don't sleep with all your coworkers 348 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 5: some of them maybe, and then you go home or 349 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 5: to your sex club, to your part and you do 350 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 5: things with your partner. Right you just for us, you 351 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 5: get to bee that that aspect of it. But I 352 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 5: think you know why it's so important for us to 353 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 5: show the admin side, the day to day side, the 354 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 5: stuff with the kids, stuff with our family, is because 355 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 5: people don't see sex workers as comprehensive human beings. They don't, 356 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 5: you know, and when we unfortunately, when you cut off 357 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 5: that side of an entertainer where you know, because that's 358 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 5: the work that we do, then we don't get treated 359 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 5: like human beings. 360 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 6: Our policies don't. 361 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 5: Our policies in this country don't reflect that sex workers 362 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 5: are full human beings in the sense of, you know, 363 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 5: everything from the ppe loan that we were excluded from 364 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 5: to you know, how we're able to bank in neighborhoods 365 00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 5: that we're able. 366 00:20:58,800 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 2: To live in. 367 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 5: Things are that so so it's so important for us 368 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 5: to normalize the same way you see other entertainers normalize, 369 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 5: you know, like they take off their makeup, you know, 370 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 5: and that is and when they do that, it's important 371 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 5: for us sort of you know, the fans and the 372 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 5: civilians to go, oh oh, everyone has real goals around 373 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 5: their eyes or what have you. You know what I mean. 374 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 6: It's so important that we normalize. 375 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 2: All of those aspects for the people who watch. 376 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 5: Our entertainment so that way they humanize our experience, they 377 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 5: treat us like humans, and they're also able to see 378 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 5: that what we have in our sex is available to 379 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 5: them as well and their sex. 380 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 6: Now for how we share. 381 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 5: This with our friends and our family, it's just like 382 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 5: you said, ease it in, right. So you know, some 383 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 5: people and our friends and our close local friends and family, 384 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 5: they want to know everything and it's important that they 385 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 5: know all aspects of our works. But we work with 386 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 5: a lot of people in different ways in our close circle. 387 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 5: You know, my Scortes sisters have been huge parts of 388 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 5: our work behind the scenes. Kings Music family has been 389 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 5: a huge part of our career. Our parents have to 390 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 5: help us with our children when we're traveling, and they 391 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 5: have to know, you know, where we are to a 392 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 5: certain extent, not necessarily exactly what and who we're doing, 393 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 5: but the same way you leave your babysit or with 394 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 5: information about where you're going to be a case of 395 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 5: an emergency, we have to do the same with our work. 396 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 5: So I think, you know, we use a certain level 397 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 5: of discernment with what how much can you know? Just 398 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 5: like for tonight, if you told your family I'm podcasting, 399 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 5: they don't necessarily. 400 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 3: Need to know who's your guests, what you're going to. 401 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 5: Be talking about, but they know that you have a 402 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 5: radio show, and it's the same thing with us. Our 403 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 5: families know that we're in adult entertainment, and for those 404 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 5: that are interested and can handle more information, we share, 405 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 5: and we also share within our boundaries what feels comfortable 406 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 5: for us. For example, when I'm you know, King's mom 407 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 5: is so so supportive, we can share a whole lot 408 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 5: with his mom that she's really comfortable with, that I'm 409 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 5: comfortable with in some areas, and that King is in 410 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 5: to his level of comfort. My mom, on the other hand, 411 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 5: she wants to know did we make a lot of 412 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 5: money today or not? That's it, That's all she wants 413 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 5: to know. And when she's helping us with the laundry, 414 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 5: who's underweards of who like. 415 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 6: Extent up her interest. 416 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 5: In the work that we do with our kids, our 417 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 5: oldest we have to like back her out of our business. 418 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 5: Our middle child is like, no, thank you don't need 419 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 5: to know. And so you know it's we ease it 420 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 5: in and we use age appropriate and relationship appropriate communication 421 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 5: with people in our lives. 422 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 3: I love that, and I love that piece that you 423 00:23:51,240 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 3: said about age appropriate and developmentally appropriate language and communication. 424 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 3: And so one thing that we know that you all 425 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 3: focus on, particularly you, Jasmin, is is sex positive parenting. 426 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: And so when it comes to parenting your children and 427 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 3: they're they're all different ages, and it sounds like they all, 428 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 3: like all kids, each have their own unique personality, how 429 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 3: are you all being intentional with being sex positive with them? 430 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 2: I think for each age child it has to be 431 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 2: number one, catered to their understanding level also to just 432 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: as you said, their unique personality, and it's also important 433 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: to always you know, such positivity for a young child 434 00:24:54,640 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: is understanding the anatomically correct terminology for their body, because 435 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: that's how they're going to protect themselves from people who 436 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: might god forbid want to take advantage of them. It's 437 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: how they're going to understand themselves as they explore their 438 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: own bodies and come into different stages of their lives 439 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 2: as they grow up and feeling comfortable in their own skin. 440 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 2: So that's where it starts. In regards to our jobs 441 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: and things like that. You know, up until your kid 442 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: probably is sixteen or seventeen years old. Let's be honest, 443 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: no matter what you do, they don't give a shit 444 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: what you do. They don't care about your coworkers. They 445 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 2: just care that you put food on the table. You 446 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 2: bye them the toys at the video games that they 447 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: want to do, and that you have some sort of 448 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: time to spend with them, like quality parenting time, you know. 449 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: And that goes whether you're in our line of work, 450 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 2: if you're an investment banker or a senator. You know me, Like, 451 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 2: your kids really don't. Your kids don't care about your coworkers. 452 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: You think they do because you know, you have this 453 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 2: in your head that what you do is the most 454 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: important thing in the world because it provides for your 455 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: family and it is that important, But they don't care. 456 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: They're kids. So I think in regards to like, there 457 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 2: is this expectation when somebody is in adult entertainment specifically 458 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 2: that it's kind of like, well, do your kids know 459 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: what you do? Like, Hey, you're a police officer, do 460 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: your kids know that you plant drugs on people on 461 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: the weekends? You know what I'm saying, Like, you don't 462 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 2: tell them all that kind of detail, So why are 463 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: we expected to do the same? Or hey, did you 464 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: tell I'll see I'm gonna get on my box. Let me, 465 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 2: let me not go out. But like congressmen are telling 466 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: people that they're kids, Like, hey, I just denied insolent 467 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: to millions of people today. You know what I'm saying, 468 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: They're like, I went to work, you know what I mean. 469 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 2: So why is it expected that we're supposed to give 470 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 2: these details to our kids, Because one our job is 471 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: an adult job. It's literally in our title adult entertainment. 472 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 2: So when I talk to my children, it's like I'm 473 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: going to work when they are a certain level of understanding. 474 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: I model, you know, I am a videographer. I performed 475 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 2: things of that nature. You know. It was funny like 476 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: with our oldest I guess she was like fifteen or sixteen, 477 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 2: and she just she's to pay attention to everything, like 478 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: she's just she's super on point. And back when I 479 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 2: was dancing at Ebor City, when we were just talking 480 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: about eBoy, she was like damn. He she didn't say damn, 481 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 2: but she just said something to the effect of, like, 482 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 2: you sure do pay for everything with a lot of ones, 483 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, like to call me out 484 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 2: or whatever. It was like like, yes, yes, I and 485 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 2: you're enjoying all of the fruits of these ones right now. 486 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 2: So it's not really like we didn't have to get 487 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 2: into the whole detail of you know, what I was 488 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: wearing or what club I dance at and all that 489 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: there was already like an understanding because kids, they might 490 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 2: not care, but they should all percept it, you know 491 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, They're going to pay attention. And she's 492 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: also our oldest who finds all the stuff that we 493 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 2: do fascinating, you know what I'm saying, But like it 494 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 2: just works that way, and like our middle child, she's 495 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: just kind of like, mm, I just want the things. 496 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: I don't want to know nothing about it. But it's 497 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: awesome that your fans send you stuff that then I 498 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: can use, you know what I mean. So I think 499 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: it's very child specific, but the main part is that 500 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: you always make sure that they have the information that 501 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: will keep them safe. 502 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 5: I want to add in so that your listeners know 503 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 5: our kids range from twenty one to two months, So 504 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 5: we have two months old, a four year old, seventeen, 505 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 5: oh she's eighteen now, she just turned eighteen, and twenty 506 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 5: twenty one. 507 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 6: Year old, and so we have all of those stages. 508 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 5: And I think with our sex positive parenting brand, I mean, 509 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 5: there's a couple two things that I want to share 510 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 5: that we bring to the table. 511 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 6: One is pleasure face parenting, So you know, we well. 512 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 5: I was raised like a lot of black girls were 513 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 5: raised with like like no, like sex is not pleasurable, 514 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 5: it's not for you. It's just like either something we 515 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 5: do not talk about, or when we talk about it, 516 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 5: it is always from a negative and or kind of 517 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 5: how ca you mentioned earlier approcreation way, like you don't 518 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 5: do that, you fast, you want to get pregnant, that's 519 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 5: kind of that's it. 520 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 6: Don't get a disease and don't get pregnant. 521 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 5: But sex, there's a whole lot of reasons why people 522 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 5: enjoy sex. And it's not because they like taking risk 523 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 5: with pregnancy and diseases and infection. 524 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 6: It's because it is pleasurable. 525 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 5: And you can definitely teach about infection, disease, pregnancy, emotional stressors, 526 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 5: physical stressors that come along with sex. But centering pleasure still, 527 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 5: and that is something you know we from our little boy, 528 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 5: it's like, Okay, he's touching his body in an age 529 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 5: appropriate way. It's his body. He's learning about autonomy of 530 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 5: his body. If something feels good to him, that's fine, 531 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 5: as long as it's in a place that doesn't violate 532 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 5: anyone else in the household. As long as he's not 533 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 5: doing anything that is going to cause harm, and you know, 534 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 5: in terms of. 535 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 6: Like a hygiene perspective for the older girls. 536 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 5: When we get toys and things sent to us and 537 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 5: we're all conventions and we get you know, little swag 538 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 5: bags with sex information and a million condoms and all 539 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 5: of that kind of things, those kind. 540 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 7: Of things we share those. Yeah, yeah, you don't get 541 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 7: those bags yet. She's like, oh my word, there's bags 542 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 7: to come. We share them with the older girls. 543 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 6: We say, hey, we went to this conference. 544 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 5: We've taken everything out of it that we're interested in. 545 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 6: Here's some things that you might be interested in. Let 546 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 6: us know if you have any questions. Because here we 547 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 6: are promoting there's lots of condoms, there's protection, but there's 548 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 6: also lou there's pleasure, there's little vibrators, and there there. 549 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 5: Are cards and information that go to you know, sites 550 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 5: that are appropriate for where they are and their sexual 551 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 5: exploration and age. This allows them to be able to 552 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 5: come and talk to us about any and everything, but 553 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 5: sometimes we're not the right people to talk to because 554 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 5: we're their parents. So we're also bridging a gap so 555 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 5: that they can go to her space podcast or to 556 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 5: you know, who else is whoever else is appropriate for 557 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 5: them at that topic, on that topic, So the pleasure 558 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 5: based piece. The other piece is that our children are 559 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 5: at risk of being taken away from us through the system. 560 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 5: One by the fact that we're black parents, and two 561 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 5: by the fact. 562 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 6: That we're a sex worker. We're at a higher propensity. 563 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 5: Of being at risk of losing our children to this system. 564 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 5: So King and I's work really shows again the human 565 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 5: aspect that we can properly care for our children, normalize 566 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 5: the idea that sex workers have children. They're in the 567 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 5: community caring for their children and oftentimes other people's kids too, 568 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 5: providing for you know, and you know that we are 569 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 5: also looked to as leaders thought leaders on pleasure based parenting. 570 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 6: So you know, I. 571 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 5: Think there's so many reasons that people would say, like 572 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 5: why in the world do you do the work that 573 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 5: you do so openly and why do you share so widely, 574 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 5: And there's so many reasons why we do it. For 575 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 5: our family, our family experience with not holding shame or 576 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 5: guilt for who we are, and also for you know, 577 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 5: our colleagues that are at our colleagues and our people 578 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 5: that are at high risk of this system because we 579 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 5: often don't know how to articulate our you know, what 580 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 5: type of what type of parenting we are trying to instill, 581 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 5: and we don't have all the words for how to 582 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 5: protect our children or understand that there are resources for 583 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 5: us to talk about. This is how I was raised. 584 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 5: I'm looking for something different from my child. Can you 585 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 5: help me with how to do this without going from 586 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 5: zero to one hundred? Right, because sometimes we see parents 587 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 5: that are like, well, I don't I don't want my 588 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 5: children to grow up with the same shame that I did. 589 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 5: And they're asking us like, is there appropriate sites for 590 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 5: our kids to go to? We're like, no, no, But 591 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 5: this is how you could be a sex positive parent 592 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 5: and still respect the development of your children and the. 593 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 6: Laws of your you know, of your state. 594 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 4: That's really so helpful. 595 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: Oh so I was just going to say, like, even 596 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: building off of that, with telling people to repress their sexuality, 597 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: to hide their sexuality, shaming them for their sexuality, oppressing 598 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 2: them for their sexuality, we see how that shows up 599 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 2: in society, you know, like there's all these fingers that 600 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 2: are pointed at sex workers, but the largest two scandals 601 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 2: that have come out in the last five to ten 602 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 2: years have been the Just recently, the Evangelical Church has 603 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: had a huge sex scandal where things were done to children. 604 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 2: But also on top of that, pastors who were telling 605 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 2: women to stay in abusive relationships and men are supposed 606 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: to be allowed to cheat because you know, that's how 607 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 2: God made us, and this, that and the other that 608 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 2: is not helping at all, you know. And if you 609 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 2: look at other institutions where this has happened, with the 610 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 2: Catholic Church or even with the fucking boy Scouts, you know, 611 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: it's important to teach children about their body, to have 612 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: autonomy over their body. Also know, like I know what 613 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 2: is okay and what is not okay. So if somebody 614 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: is out of line, that child knows that that is 615 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: not okay, and they know to tell their parents or 616 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 2: to tell a teacher, or to tell somebody if they're 617 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 2: in a position where they need help, you know, and 618 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: shaming them and making them feel bad will make them 619 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 2: feel bad. To even share information with anybody in a 620 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 2: situation where they might. 621 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 4: Need help, that is just super super helpful. Thank you 622 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 4: all for doing that, and we just appreciate the work 623 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 4: that you're doing. I know I'm assuming that it sometimes 624 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 4: it feels as though you're ahead of your time or 625 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 4: the world is slower. But I think that you are 626 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 4: laying the foundation for those generational cycles to be broken. 627 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 4: So we really appreciate that. We did want to shift 628 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 4: up the energy to move into another phase. King. We 629 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 4: know you are out and about traveling, so if you 630 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 4: have to head out, we totally understand, so feel free 631 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 4: to hop off. Jasmine. We see that you do have 632 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 4: a little bit more time, so we want to jump 633 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 4: into this segment that we call the oh you blatchet segment. 634 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 4: And basically, we recognize I see King's traces like oh 635 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 4: I see We recognize and appreciate and celebrate the multifaceted 636 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 4: woman or man, and we believe that it's okay to 637 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 4: be bougie and classy and ratchet and you can still 638 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 4: be elegant and dance to strip club music, or be 639 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 4: a sex worker, write whatever it might be. So we 640 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 4: want to invite you to the OLDU blatchet segments. So 641 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 4: do you take on the challenge? 642 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: YEP, I do. 643 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, we got them done right, So really quickly, 644 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 4: we're going to just give you an overfield what you 645 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 4: just agreed to. So we're going to ask you four 646 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 4: questions to a piece. We're gonna have four sentence completions, 647 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 4: and then we're going to have a photo on the 648 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 4: big screen pulled up of you from social media, and 649 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 4: we want you to provide some context about the photo 650 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 4: on screen. Look at y'all. Look at them. They are 651 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 4: you guys got to tune it on Patreon to see 652 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 4: their faces here. I love it, okay, So let's just 653 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 4: jump right in, so jazzm this is for you. What's 654 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 4: the best piece of wisdom or advice you've ever received? 655 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 6: It doesn't get better, it gets different. 656 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 3: Oh okay, I. 657 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 6: Like expectations, it gets different different. 658 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 3: I like that, all right, King, this one is for you. 659 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 3: I have four words for you. Twerk or two step. 660 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 2: Or two steps. I gotta choose between one that I 661 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 2: thought I was able to be both graduate and classic 662 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 2: at the same time. 663 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 3: Yes, you can, so you. 664 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,919 Speaker 2: Can choose at the same time. 665 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 3: There we got work a twork step. I like that, okay, okay. 666 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 4: Jason said in the chat twerkstep. I love it. Okay, Jasmine, 667 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 4: what is the sexiest item you own? I know that's 668 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 4: gonna be hard for you because I know you have 669 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 4: a lot of sexy items, So what's the sexiest? Tell 670 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 4: Tell our listeners more about the king new ordeal though, 671 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,720 Speaker 4: please so. 672 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 5: So King was so generous to his fans and his 673 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 5: lovers when he's away that you can enjoy a mold 674 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 5: that is made in his likeness with our partners at 675 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 5: Less Arts and it literally is King in silicon. 676 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 4: That is so dope. And just want to add, there 677 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 4: are different colors because we know King is a sneakerhead, 678 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 4: so you can get different colors if you want. Oh, 679 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 4: I think it's gonna show us one. Okay, there we go, 680 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,919 Speaker 4: you got, there, we go. 681 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 2: I have a dildo that match that pair of sneakers. 682 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 2: I got over. 683 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 4: Have you done a photo shoot with the sneakers and 684 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 4: the dildo? That's kind of dope that it would be dope. 685 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 5: Yes, But I said that I have to have the 686 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 5: sneakers and a matching BUILDO. 687 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 6: That's how gonna bo up my sneakers. 688 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 4: Exactly, I got I got you, all. 689 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:49,439 Speaker 6: Right, King? 690 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 3: This question is for you. Would you prefer to be 691 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 3: around someone who's a bit pedantic or someone who is 692 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 3: clumsy and steps on those brand new sneakers. 693 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 2: That's like the slam Slamazo question. I guess I would 694 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 2: have to be around somebody a little bit more probatic, 695 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 2: because clumsy could be really, really dangerous at a certain point, 696 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,439 Speaker 2: especially with what we do. You know what I'm saying. 697 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just thinking about that. 698 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, good answer, good answer. All right, y'all, We're 699 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 4: going to move on to the sentence completion and jazz 700 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 4: and this is for you. One question or topic I 701 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 4: wish people asked me about more often is. 702 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 6: No, I'm such an open book. 703 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 2: King. 704 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 6: What do I say, Like, Well, why didn't they talk 705 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 6: about this? Are no one's interested in? 706 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 2: I think for you it would be this. This is 707 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 2: a very specific question, and this goes to what we 708 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,479 Speaker 2: were talking about on our last podcast show, is that 709 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 2: when people try to highland Jazmine, like in the in 710 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 2: the poly world sense of it, they usually come a 711 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 2: herb on like they're going to talk to her about 712 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 2: this podcast instead of actually having a conversation with her. 713 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 2: That's like on some kind of depth and on some 714 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: kind of level, it's kind of like I've already made 715 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 2: up my mind about you because of every single thing 716 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 2: I've seen and read and all of this other stuff, 717 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 2: instead of just asking some everyday type shit, you know 718 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 2: what I mean, like a regular ask question yes. 719 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, that issues. 720 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 5: I really wish people would ask, like thank you king 721 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 5: what they really want to know? So don't dance around, 722 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 5: don't tell me what I already know, and restate what 723 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 5: I've said, and to compliment me, like just ask what 724 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 5: you really want to know? 725 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 6: Which is are you dating right now? Are you taking 726 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 6: new submissions right now? Are you feeling me right now? Yeah? 727 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 4: All right? 728 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 8: I like that. 729 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 3: I like that response and so king your sentence completion. 730 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 3: The most embarrassing thing I've ever done to get a 731 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 3: lover's attention is no. 732 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed by none of the shit I did. 733 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 6: I love the confidence. 734 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 4: I love it. 735 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't really forget to get a lover's attention 736 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 2: like someone I'm already with, or to gain a new 737 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 2: lover and did something to get their attention like which 738 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 2: which one? 739 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 4: Let's go with the ladder. 740 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that one. 741 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 2: I was very very young and I went to for 742 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 2: some context we used to get busted to this other 743 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 2: part of a town and I walked like I didn't 744 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 2: take the bus back to my neighborhood. I walked to 745 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 2: this this young lady's house when we were kids or whatever, 746 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 2: and left like a poem that I wrote her in 747 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 2: her mailbox. But her parents found that ship and I 748 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 2: was busted from the other side of town, if you 749 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 2: get my drift. So there was not happy about that 750 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 2: shit all. So like that part was embarrassed. I wasn't 751 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,399 Speaker 2: embarrassed that I wrote it. I was embarrassed that her 752 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 2: parents found it. It wasn't like explicit and it was like, 753 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 2: oh no, it was in like fucking grade school, so 754 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 2: it was probably it was probably bars though, you know 755 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It was grade school bars for sure. 756 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 2: But I felt bad that she got in trouble. 757 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 4: Shit, that's a good one. That's a very good story. 758 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 4: Thank you for sharing that with us. And Jasmine, we 759 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 4: have a sentence completion for you, which is my most 760 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 4: embarrassing sexual experience was or included. 761 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 6: You know, I was like, you should be happy I'm. 762 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 2: Here, shit. 763 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 6: Buried, that's real, that's rue. 764 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 7: I don't know I thought you that I'm already I've 765 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 7: already decided to be vulnerable. 766 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 3: I don't know. 767 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 6: I felt embarrassed with some people. 768 00:42:53,560 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 5: Now, I honestly don't have an embarrassing sexual experience and Honestly, 769 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,240 Speaker 5: I do believe, and I'm proud to say it's because 770 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 5: by the time I am having sex with someone, whether 771 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 5: it's going to be a casual thing or a seriously, 772 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 5: I've already decided that I'm comfortable with that person. So yeah, 773 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 5: I can't even make up. 774 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 3: One on that that's real. I love that, I mean 775 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 3: because that that does speak to the level of authenticity, transparency, transparency, 776 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 3: and comfort that you have to have when you are 777 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 3: in a consensual sexual relationship. 778 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 5: Yes, I mean I love I love to laugh during 779 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 5: since I mean that's the other thing, like something that 780 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 5: someone may considers like embarrassing or like little things that 781 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 5: happen that are not on script, so to speak, Like 782 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 5: I like to stop laugh, catch. 783 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,359 Speaker 6: My breath, and get back to it. 784 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. 785 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 5: Okay, here, here's I used to think, like my knees cracky. 786 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 5: Okay there there we all, Yeah, I. 787 00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 2: Do this to think. 788 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,919 Speaker 6: But I was like, I'm like, why are you gonna 789 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 6: start up right now? 790 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 2: Right? 791 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,720 Speaker 5: But then you know, I learned like my fingers cracked, 792 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 5: my neck cracks, my back, like all all my. 793 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 6: Joints, I'm just this loud, cracking person. And so I 794 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 6: used to think like, oh, I'm getting old. 795 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 5: I was like fifteen, sixteen years old, So it's not 796 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 5: that it's just that they crack. 797 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 6: So now I know, I just feel like, oh I'm 798 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 6: warming up. 799 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 2: Here we go. 800 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm so glad, thank you. 801 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 2: I have no meaning of let's get it cracking, you 802 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 2: know what I mean, get it crack? 803 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 6: Yes, I mean, all right, my knees are cracking. That 804 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 6: means I am doing something. And if I'm doing something 805 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 6: to be happy. 806 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, all right, King, we have the your last 807 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 3: since it's completion. What I love most about myself. 808 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 2: Is my creativity. So for whatever whatever aspect of life, 809 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 2: I'm a is trying to look at it from a 810 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 2: different perspective or approach it in a different perspective, which 811 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,879 Speaker 2: is super helpful because life doing some wild shit at 812 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 2: me all the time, you know, I like to approach 813 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 2: it from some different ways. And then for the like 814 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 2: the work we do and all of that, I feel like, like, oh, 815 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 2: like just even thinking about like when Jazz and I 816 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 2: have been shooting like these last few scenes when Jazz 817 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 2: was pregnant, I was like, ooh, I want to do 818 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 2: this scene where it's like y'all are frozen in time 819 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 2: and then y'all move and I'm going to mix it 820 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 2: all together so it looks like y'all are in a 821 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 2: dream state or shooting in black light or whatever. You 822 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Because it's just like we had 823 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 2: spoken before, and Jazz was just like, there's no good 824 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 2: pregnancy porn, Like all pregnancy porn is disrespectful to the woman, 825 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 2: disrespectful to everybody involved. Fuck you know what I'm saying. 826 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 2: Like the way it's shot, it's never beautiful. So I'm like, okay, 827 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 2: Like Jazz directed one and we won an award for 828 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 2: it with the last pregnancy, so I was like, oh, 829 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 2: I have some ideas for this pregnancy. So it's just 830 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 2: it's just like approaching things in a creative way because 831 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 2: one of the main things we want people to gain from, 832 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 2: like what we do with royal creditsh films. Just how 833 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 2: Jazz said, it gets different as as you age or 834 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 2: as your relationship evolves with your partner, your relationship even 835 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 2: with yourself. Like I know, I be creative as hell. 836 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 2: When I master day, I'm like, oh, that's the new shit. 837 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,439 Speaker 2: Look at us, look at us. Yeah, but it's kind 838 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 2: of like with those kinds of situations like it makes 839 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 2: such better. It's a creative outlet that all of us 840 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 2: can engage in, so like, how creative can you be? 841 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 4: We appreciate you all so much. We typically have folks 842 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 4: choose a picture for this segment of Oh you blatch it, 843 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 4: and then we're going to close out, but we chose 844 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 4: a picture that we think are viewers for enjoy most. 845 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 4: So sorry that we took that opportunity from you, but 846 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 4: I think you all appreciate this. So what we want 847 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 4: you to do is, please provide some context on this 848 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 4: photo that you see on screen for folks that are 849 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 4: only tuning in via audio, and then King and Jason, 850 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 4: if you can tell us something about this photo, we 851 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 4: wouldn't know by just looking at it, so feel free 852 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 4: to describe and then jump in. 853 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 2: The original one was taken down by Instagram. It was 854 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 2: flagged and some white folks did it and they went, yep. 855 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,240 Speaker 6: That's something that's a fun fact. 856 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 5: And if taken down, this one is holding its own. 857 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 7: I don't know what I did different this time to 858 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 7: let it be up there, but I keep putting. 859 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 5: It back up and risking my risking my account because 860 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 5: it's beautiful it is. I consider it to be an 861 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:55,720 Speaker 5: art piece that was taken by KP Photographies in Atlanta, Georgia, 862 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 5: and it is I don't even know how to expend it. 863 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 5: I am upside down and backwards on King like he 864 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 5: is a pole and King is standing erect and strong, 865 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 5: and I'm covering this well your. 866 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:19,800 Speaker 9: Body, your body is the arrect and you are covering 867 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 9: You're covering your penis and I'm covering your. 868 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 6: Your heart center. 869 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 5: So yeah, if you're get on the Patreon, because you're 870 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 5: not gonna understand this unless you're there. 871 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 2: It's a Patreon picture. 872 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 5: So the contact the photographers that I'd like to try this, 873 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 5: and we were like okay, and I think we got 874 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 5: it maybe on We have a couple of. 875 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 6: Different iterations of this photo. 876 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,239 Speaker 5: Actually I feel like we got it on maybe the 877 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 5: second try, going up on the second try. 878 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think whenever I look at this picture, it 879 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 2: just makes me think of how we work together right 880 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 2: in so many different ways. And then at some point 881 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 2: we're gonna have to shoot the reverse and I'm gonna 882 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 2: have to flip upside down on you. 883 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 6: Jet not a problem. 884 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 5: So the catching with this photo says love is a 885 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 5: combination of care, commitment, knowledge, responsibility, respect and trust. 886 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 6: And I think that this photo encompasses in. 887 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 5: Order to get in that position, maintain it, pose for it, 888 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,439 Speaker 5: and to safely get out of it, all of those 889 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 5: elements had to be there. And I think that's sort 890 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 5: of that describes our relationship. In order for it to 891 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,280 Speaker 5: run smoothly, all of those elements have to be there. 892 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,240 Speaker 6: So yeah, this is a really special picture. 893 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 5: And oh another funny thing is that our kids recreated 894 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 5: it and you can see that on the Sex Positive 895 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 5: diherencing page because they were just. 896 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 6: Like, y'all think y'all are so cool, we can do it. 897 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 5: Too, and they recreated it with cool gone of course 898 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 5: the two older girls and it was pretty funny. 899 00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,839 Speaker 4: That is so dope. Thank you so much for sharing 900 00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 4: this with us. 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