1 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August first, two thousand, nineteen, Season fifteen, 8 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: episode number eighteen. Welcome to another edition of The Break. 9 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 1: Amber's cool, but we all feel really good out here 10 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: in Oxnard, California. It's a beautiful day. Cowboys take the 11 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: field again this afternoon. Um they have, they were off yesterday. 12 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: They'll be out for walk through this morning and then 13 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: their regular practice at three thirty pm Pacific time for 14 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: the five thirty. Few guys back in Dallas, and we'll 15 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: be here to cover it all. But for the next 16 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: hour we're talking Cowboys football with you, guys. How's everybody 17 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: feeling this morning? Outstanding? Outstanding as great? Cold? No, yeah, cool? 18 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: All right, we got a lot we want to talk 19 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: about today. We are now a quarter of the way 20 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: through training camp practices, and so we're gonna do a 21 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: quarterly review. I have a lot of questions I'm gonna 22 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: throw at these guys. We're gonna see what their thoughts are. 23 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: It's gonna give you guys a full picture of the 24 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: kinds of things we've seen over these first four practices 25 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: that the Cowboys have had in ox RD. But before 26 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: we get to that, I do also want to make 27 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: a quick programming note. This morning we put out the 28 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: first edition of a program that actually Nick is running 29 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: point on with our our production team, called The Process. Nick, 30 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: you want to tell people what the process is and 31 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: what they should expect from this show. Well, as they've 32 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: heard of the term several times, everything we do here 33 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: is a process and that stems from obviously really Jason Garrett. 34 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: But he's right, you know, he just says that a lot. 35 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: But that's why everyone kind of makes fun of the name. 36 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: But um, the process is something we've been working on 37 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: here this last week, just trying to go behind the 38 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 1: scenes as much as possible. Again, as much as possible 39 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: mud whether it be you know, the team traveling to 40 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: California or inside some of the meeting rooms. I know 41 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: one of the things was Jerry Jones addressing to the 42 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: team got kind of emotional to the team, and we 43 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: captured that. We have Jason Garrett talking to the team 44 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: and uh huddle, Gary Brown miked up. There's some there's 45 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: some really good segments there, and we're gonna try to 46 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: do that here throughout training camp. So you've seen that 47 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: the show. It's nothing, you know, unique, but it's unique, 48 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: I guess for us to do it out here with 49 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and for us to do it. Yeah. One 50 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: piece that thought was really interesting was the piece that 51 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: started with the running backs uh sitting having a barbecue 52 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 1: dinner And actually we shot that back in June when 53 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: Zeke was still with the team, and some really good 54 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: Footish man I tweeted that this morning that although you 55 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: kind of see a piece of that and here's some 56 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: of that conversation that happened, there's a longer piece to 57 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: that we're going to probably put out a little later 58 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: this summer, hopefully by the n Zeke might be back 59 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: with the team, right and we'll have a little more 60 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: to show you guys. But actually maybe you speak right 61 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: and but it was but a really good video and 62 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: good job with that, you guys can expect it. We'll 63 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: be doing those every week throughout training camp for the 64 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: next four or five weeks. So you check that out 65 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: and you can see it on any one of our platforms. 66 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: You got our website, mobile app, connected TV, all that stuff. 67 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: All right, So let's start, as we normally start, with 68 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of blanket coverage. I have some statements 69 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: for you guys that will be a blank You fill 70 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: in the blank. The first statement, Michael Thomas, wide receiver 71 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: for the Saints, signed a five year extension worth one 72 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars over five years, averaging about twenty million 73 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: a year, with sixty one million guaranteed. A Marie Cooper 74 00:03:52,800 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: should expect blank Dave, Amari Cooper should expect the lore 75 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: of his deal to have raised a little bit. But 76 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: I think I think he already knew that. You know this, 77 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: We knew this was coming. We knew the Saints we're 78 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: gonna get it done. We also know Amari Cooper is 79 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: not going to set the receiver market. I don't like 80 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: nobody in the world expects that to happen. I don't 81 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: think even Amari does. But it just raises the floor 82 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: of what you're capable of asking for. Odell Beckham used 83 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: to set the market at eighteen. Now that's second, and 84 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: so now you know sixteen, all of a sudden, fifteen 85 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: to seventeen doesn't look so shiny. So no, he's not 86 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: gonna set the market. But somewhere between seventeen and eighteen 87 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: per years probably what I think Amario'll get. So again 88 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's a big surprise, but 89 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: it raises the minimum of what he's capable of asking for. 90 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: Amar should expect what Nick something soon? I mean, I 91 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: think it's kind of what they were waiting for, right, 92 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: I don't think, and Cooper is not really in a 93 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: big hurry, but I don't know if O'Dell's making eighteens. 94 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: See Odell's the one that's gonna come come back in 95 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: this whole deal and want to go over the top 96 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: on that. Well, Julio is still out there as well. 97 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: He's asked for a new Dealio is another one to watch. 98 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: But I don't think that matters. I really don't, because 99 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: Julio is going to go over that, and I don't 100 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: think Cooper goes over that. I mean, I think Cooper 101 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: is sitting at so you don't think, because that would 102 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: raise an interesting question if you think that Amari at 103 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: the end of the day, wants to be the highest 104 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: paid receiver, and he waits for Julio, and Julio goes 105 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: over there. Does I don't don't think that, And I 106 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: think he's kind of come out and said that. I mean, 107 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: nothing about the way he has behaved or talked to 108 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: this offseason suggests he wants that. I like, it's like 109 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: he's just he's the simplest one for me, because like 110 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: he's not making a fuss. I don't think even his 111 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: agent thinks he's supposed to be the highest paid when 112 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: you look at what Michael Thomas has done for the 113 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: first three years of his career, when you look at 114 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: what Julio Jones has done for a decade, at this point, 115 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: he should probably be somewhere between three and six. And 116 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: I think that's where he will be when it's all 117 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: said and done. It's the same thing for Dak Prescott 118 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: for that matter. It's just that everybody kind of agrees 119 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: on Coop, whereas very few people have can figure out 120 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: how they feel about Dak Amber Amari Cooper should expect 121 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: a crop ton of money. Very simple, I'll be honest. 122 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,559 Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that either way, he's gonna 123 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: make a ton of money and yeah it doesn't matter. Yeah, 124 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: it's crab ton of money. Yeah. And you know, when 125 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 1: it comes to contract talks and money and cap salary 126 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, I'm not an expert. I would 127 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: have said the other word. Yeah, I know you would have. 128 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: But you know, I keep, I try to keep. You 129 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Yeah, all right, So here's the next statement. 130 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: Steven's response to the contract, when asked if it raises 131 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: the price for Mari, was no, I think it's probably 132 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: in line with what we were thinking. I've got a 133 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: little better number than that a Mari should expect blank. 134 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: Nick after hearing what Steven says Steven, after hearing what 135 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: Steve even said, does that change what a mare he 136 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: should expect? Is what I'm asking. But here was Steven's quote, again, No, 137 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: I think it's probably in line with what we were thinking. 138 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: I've got a little better number than that. I've got 139 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: a better number than that. Is he talking about him 140 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: talking about He was asked about specifically Michael Thomas's deal, 141 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: and in this response to whether he thinks that affects 142 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: what they were going to do with a Mari His 143 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: response was, no, I think it's probably in line with 144 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: what we were thinking. I've got a little better number. 145 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: Part it's fine, that's a find number. Yeah, I don't 146 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: know what that means, because I will be shocked if 147 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: a Mari's deal tops Thomas's. Maybe really, because that's what 148 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: That's the impression I got from the quote was we 149 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: actually were thinking a little bit more than It's almost 150 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: like I've got a better idea now, like it's like 151 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: he's got a better idea, because why would he say that? 152 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: Though he also said he said probably in the same interview, 153 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: if I had to guess, he said, and we're damn 154 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: sure not going to be market setters. That was the 155 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: art that was for any of those guys, which that 156 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: which is why I'll be shot. I mean, I don't 157 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: expect him the top uh um Thomas. So maybe he's 158 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: talking about more guarantees. Maybe, And you know, Jerry and 159 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: Stephen Jones have been quick to mention the marketing aspect 160 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: that comes along with being a cornerstone from Cowboys, so 161 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: maybe he was talking about that. Why do I feel 162 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: like his jersey number is gonna be in in play here? 163 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: And why do I feel like it's gonna be that. 164 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: It's gonna be the round nineteen nineteen for nineteen, Like, 165 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: I just feel like that's affect I like nineteen for 166 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: nineteen and nineteen in nineteen. I didn't think about that. Damn. Yeah, 167 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: we got a lot of lever. Let's do it. Get 168 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: the graphic people working on it. All right, let's jump 169 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: into our quarterly review. I have us some questions here. 170 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: It's roughly about eight or nine questions made. The point 171 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: is to make you think I'm gonna make you gift 172 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: thoughtful answers. Can you do that? Yeah? And just I 173 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: helped you with them, so yeah, I can only help 174 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: me with two of them. Okay, I want to quibble room, 175 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: that's not fair. If you prepare for well, we're gonna 176 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: be fine. Don't worry. Well he wrote a couple of them. 177 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: Go ahead, how about I was in the tent before 178 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: the shows. It's two practices. It's two practices, not for 179 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: right routes on air don't count. So like to call 180 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: this a quarterly review feels, you know, I feel like 181 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: sixteen practices they've had. I know I knew you were 182 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: gonna lay all right. I feel like I should no 183 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: way more from this team right now, and I don't 184 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: can only watch two I will. I will say this too, Lamber. 185 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: I actually feel the exact same way as I was 186 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: writing some of these. Some of these are going to 187 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: rely on you taking kind of what you know of 188 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: the player from last year, what you know of them 189 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: from the offseason, and then compare that to the two 190 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: practices you've had to see if that corroborates what you 191 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: can involves a great game. All right, let's do it. 192 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: I think this is a good idea and a great game. 193 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: You're doing it. Guess why you and I've been doing 194 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: this for fifteen years. It's because Dave, you should know 195 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: by now. As soon as you start questioning this, he's like, well, 196 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: you know what tomorrow to show, right exactly, And I'll 197 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: be sitting over here like talking about let's go right 198 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: here we go. First question, who's more prime for a 199 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: breakout year? Xavier Woods or Connor Williams. Xavier Woods because 200 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: he plays a position that enables him to do that. 201 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you know nobody looks at offensive line except 202 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: for the tip us. Well yeah, I mean obviously people do, 203 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: but it's way harder to stand out, especially when there's 204 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: so many other great players on that offensive line, but 205 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: let's put it all in relative terms. And I'm not 206 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: talking so much about for the purposes of fan fair 207 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm talking more from the purposes of an evaluator who's 208 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: looking at this team and saying, man, this player went 209 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: from being a decent player to being a really great 210 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: player who's had the who's in, who's better prepared to 211 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: have that kind of breakout year. The last thing we 212 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: saw before the off day was Xavier Woods pick six. 213 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott read him like a book. It was a 214 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: beautiful play and he was I mean, he's he has 215 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: gotten better every year of his career. They didn't draft 216 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: the safety because that's how in love they are with 217 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: Xavier Woods. That's Chris Richard, that's coming out of his mouth. 218 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: So Savior Woods. All right, Amber, Well, I'm gonna go 219 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: with Connor. I mean why because we're buddies now, he's 220 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: my buddy. No, no, no, I think he's made you 221 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: can tell and with us just seeing two practices here, 222 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: you can already tell the difference between last year and 223 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: the change in his body and the strength that he 224 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: has gained. Yes, Xavier Woods, I like what I've seen 225 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: so far, but I don't want to get too excited 226 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: just yet, because I've seen that happen before, where you're 227 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: at training camp and you're making place, intercepting the ball 228 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: and this and that, but then once the season comes, 229 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: it kind of fades away and disappears a little bit. 230 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: So I'm not ready to jump on that train of 231 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: the Xavier Woods have faith in him. I like what 232 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: I see so far, but let's wait a little bit. 233 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: The one thing I will say that that might make 234 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: you feel a little bit better about that is usually 235 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: I agree with you. But usually when you see that, 236 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: it's skill position, it's defensive backs, it's those kind of guys. 237 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: It's rare that you see an offensive lineman looking good 238 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: in camp and then all of a sudden in the 239 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: season he's not right, um, because looking good in camp 240 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: is just all about bullying people, basically. Yeah, and I 241 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: And that's the one thing I've been excited to see 242 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: out here, Like there have been a couple of times 243 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: when I've seen him, like Nick says, he just basically 244 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: locks down, like he sits down and the guy doesn't move. 245 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: You didn't see that a lot from Connor last year. 246 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: It looks like different. He looks very very strong and stout. 247 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: And that's the part that I really love about him. 248 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: Nick Connor Um he has a golf cart, and and 249 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: and and he has a golf cart. Explain that the 250 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: golf cart means that these are the Conditioning UM Strength 251 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: and Conditioning Award winners for the season. He's the guy 252 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: that that worked really really hard. Not to say that 253 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: any of the guys didn't. Does he I don't think. 254 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't think he does either way. I mean Connor 255 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: needed to get a little stronger. He did. When you 256 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: look at the Rams game last year. He played well 257 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: in that game against a pretty decent player and Aaron 258 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: Donald joke and h Xavier Woods struggled a little bit 259 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: if I remember Bird some of the some of the 260 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: plays in the open field. Also, Xavier Woods plays next 261 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: to Jeff Heath and he played and he plays next 262 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: to Tyron Smith. So I think you have better you 263 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: have a better chance to play to look good when 264 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: you play next to Tyron Smith and and Travis Well 265 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: maybe yeah, yeah, you're breaking news here. No, I'm just 266 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: saying maybe. I mean a long way to go because 267 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: smiss one of them all right now, and I don't 268 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: want to. I love that you guys are picking Connor 269 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: and I mean, I'm sorry, yeah, picking Connor. But I 270 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: also I want to reiterate what Dave saying, like Xavier, 271 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: he's looked really good out here too, and he's a 272 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: guy that they believe in quite a big play along 273 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: somebody these two. You can answer, yeah, I might answer 274 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: after I have been giving your perspective my perspective throughout 275 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: all right, here's the second question, more impression, I'm sorry, 276 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: more impressive unit thus far through as a Dave says, 277 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: to training camp practice and you got defensive backs, offensive 278 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: line or linebackers, who's been more impressive? And Bro'll start 279 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: with you, uh honest, Well, because of what I've been 280 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: paying more attention to, I would say the old line. 281 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: I mean, when they go on those one on ones, 282 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: you cannot not watch. You have to be locked in 283 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: on what they're doing and just watching. I mean, it's 284 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: amazing how powerful and strong they are and they will 285 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: dominate you. So old line for me, Nick, Yeah, the 286 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,119 Speaker 1: old line is what we're seeing, um that they're dominating 287 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: a lot more. I will say that, you know, Crawford 288 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: and d Law not being out there kind of affects 289 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: that and you could say, Frederick, you know, probably it 290 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: hasn't been out there either, but um, you just see 291 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: you see the defensive backs struggle some um the linebackers. 292 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: That's just tough right now to tell that one. The 293 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: offensive line is given you to me the best perspective 294 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: of what they're doing, So I would say them, it 295 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: is the old line, But shout out to the dbs. 296 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: They got two picks at the last p so they've 297 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: done some stuff. Linebacker is the absolute hardest position to 298 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: shine in training camp, but Layton and Jalen just look 299 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: like athletic super freaks out there. They don't get to 300 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: do anything, but they look impressive. But it's though line. 301 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: How surprising is it to you that the defensive backs 302 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: have looked as good as they have and they're arguably 303 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: their best player isn't even out there. Yeah, I mean 304 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: not that surprising because I think if you were to say, 305 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: what's you know, who's the Who's the coach that that 306 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: you know is kind of gets the most out of 307 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: his players, you know, you would say maybe Christopher Shard. 308 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he just does a really great job. You 309 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: can see it by just being out here. How good 310 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: he is as a coach, and so his units aren't 311 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: gonna suck, you know the matter why they're just not 312 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: going to and he's going to be you know, he 313 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: takes this thing, you know, very seriously every practice, and 314 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: so it doesn't surprise me. But there's some good battles. 315 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they've they've given up some some big plays. 316 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not part of being a defensive back. 317 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: I don't care who you are, you're gonna give up plays. 318 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: The point is you better win some too. And they're 319 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: winning something I'm not ready to say. They're like balling 320 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: out of control with al Byron Jones, Like they got 321 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: two picks in team period. They also got dusted on 322 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: the first day multiple times. This is probably you know, 323 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: I've said it for years about oh let's get some 324 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: speed over here. This is probably the fastest group of 325 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: wide receivers that they've had from one to like ten 326 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: that I've seen that I can remember. Now a lot 327 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: of those guys are going to be off the team, though, 328 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, some of the the guys that get cut 329 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: could probably make a four by you know, one hundred 330 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: meter relay team and beat the starters. I would love 331 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: to see that. They would definitely beat them, don't you. 332 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm I don't know about definitely, but I'd love to watch. 333 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I mean Reggie Davis, John Vay, Jalen Guden 334 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: and those guys can run, and Devin Smith against Gallup 335 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: Cooper I have on. I might have to take the backups. 336 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I would love to watch that. 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We 402 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: got some questions that we've rolled out for these guys. 403 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: Our next question is, outside of Amari Cooper, which wide 404 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: receiver has been the most impressive through two training camp practices. 405 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: Michael Gallop. Michael Gallup. Michael gall Up. He looks great. 406 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: He look great in training camp last year. It's gonna 407 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: be about being consistent translating that to the to the 408 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: bright lights. I think he can do that. But his 409 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: footwork is great. He doesn't like you know, he's not 410 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: as fast as some of these guys. He's not as 411 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: big as some of them. Um, he doesn't do like 412 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: the freakazoid catches at least not that I've seen yet. 413 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: But like he's just consistent and shifty and honestly that's him. 414 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: An Amari like Amar is like that too. Amar's not 415 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: the Dez type. I remember when Daz used to be 416 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: out here at training camp. We do the Dez doing 417 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: Dez things right, that's not Amar either not. There's both technicians. 418 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: They they run good routes, they get open and they 419 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: catch the ball right. And Amari is a big, bulky 420 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: dude though, like I'm not maybe not as bulky as 421 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: like a Dez or a Julio Jones, but he's big, 422 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: like Michael Gallup is is pretty not unassuming. Yeah, Like 423 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: we saw him in the parking lot the other day 424 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: and we were like, whoa, Mike's really that tall. Like 425 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: I was walking right next to Layton, he was like, 426 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: not that much short. Similar, something's often's going wrong here 427 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: because Mike doesn't look that imposing on the field. Um, 428 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: but he's He's been nice out here for sure. Guys 429 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: are good. Just when you're talking about you know, Daz 430 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: doing Daz things and all that. I mean, Larry Fitzgerald's 431 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 1: been doing it for twenty years almost, you know, and 432 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: he's never really been the most impressive, but he just 433 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: you're right about being you know, a guy that could 434 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: just run routes and and it works. I mean, you know, 435 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: I guess you could say Jerry Rice was probably the 436 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: same way for being that way. I don't know. I'll 437 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: answer the question, Yes, we just compared Mike to Larry 438 00:21:54,440 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald and Jerry Rice. I'm yeah, you just don't have 439 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: to be this crazy freak all the time. Yeah, um, 440 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think all the backup receivers 441 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: have been that consistent. So it's just a to me. 442 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Gallop's a good answer. And then Cob, you 443 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: would say Cob, but Cob had a bad day. Yea, yeah, 444 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: really bad. I was going to ask that question of 445 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 1: what you guys think of Randall Cop because it was 446 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: I guess that was what was was that it was 447 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: it was the morning practice, but he had a he 448 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: had a really to me, it would really rough practice. 449 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 1: There were a lot of ball I think there were 450 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: two or three that went straight through his hand. He 451 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 1: was the reason for Dak's first pick right, and when 452 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: he just went right through his hands. He dropped a 453 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: third down conversion in the team period. Yeah, but I mean, 454 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's been rough day. He's a decade 455 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: long vet with a Pro Bowl appearance under his belt. Like, 456 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: he's got to do way more than that before I 457 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: start to be worried about him. Right, Amber, tell me 458 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: what what what wide receiver that a mari has been 459 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: most impressive? Well, I would stake with Michael Gallup. I 460 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: think he has to. He has been the one that 461 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: has shown more things here. And what I like about 462 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: him is that he makes it seem effortless in a way. 463 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: He does thing and you don't see him like it's 464 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: nothing freakish like we said, but it just doesn't seem 465 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: like he's struggling for it or rushing for it. Just 466 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: it just happens natural. And of course, just like anybody else, 467 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: he needs to clean it up more and be more 468 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: consistent about it. But he has it. He has it. 469 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: Whatever it is for a receiver, he has it all. Right. 470 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: Next question, if you had to identify the area of 471 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: this team with the most questions, what would it be 472 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: special teams or running backs? Oh? Damn nice, We'll see 473 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: the thing about it. Nice question. I think initially you 474 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: think running backs obviously, right, but special teams, No, it 475 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: is probably special teams because am I thrilled about it? No, 476 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: but Alfred Morris has played in this league. Tony Pollard 477 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: was a fourth round pick for a reason. Like you 478 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: know that they can take the ball and run with it. 479 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how good it'll look. I don't know. 480 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: We haven't had a kicker hit a one hundred percent 481 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: of his kicks out here yet this year, and Dan 482 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: Bailey used to just do that like it was especially camp. 483 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: We've made so many jokes about that's why we didn't. 484 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: We stopped watching special teams because like boom boom boom 485 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom. Cool, let's go do the other one. 486 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: Uh Maher has missed every day he's kicked, and so 487 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: is Casey Redfern. M Chris Jones. I'm not super worried 488 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: about Chris Jones. Chris Jones did have a he dipped 489 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: last year. He did. It's something to watch, um, but 490 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: it's so hard to gauge punting at training camp. I 491 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: know Casey Redfern punted for Chris on Tuesday and it 492 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: was kind of yeah, but you know he's back up 493 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: for a reason. I guess I'm not worried about Chris Jones. 494 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm kind of worried about the kickers, all right, Amber 495 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: running backer kickers would have more more questions. That's so 496 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: close to each other that one's really hard. I think 497 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: that that you have the guys to do things with, 498 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I wish I could talk more 499 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: about the kicker. I have not been watching them. It's 500 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: like we watch practice and then all of a sudden, 501 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: I forget that they're there kicking on the other side 502 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: of the field. I forgot about what got us into 503 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, but uh, I would probably say special 504 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: teams because at least with the running back, you you 505 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: can count on the O line to help you out 506 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: open up some holes for you. So I would just 507 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: think with the special teams, right, I think there's more questions. 508 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: I guess at running back. I mean because you said 509 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: special teams, so two of the three are set. You 510 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: know what they're going to be in. Maher will probably 511 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: be the guy. I think running back there's just more. 512 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 1: There's just more questions of how all that's gonna go. 513 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: Because you know your starters is in cobbo right now, 514 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: So do you expect him to be back? Yeah, but 515 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: but at what shape and what condition? I'm not sure? 516 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: And then what what how they're gonna get Pollered involved 517 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: and where more goes after that? I think there's more 518 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: questions there, and it's more obviously more important position. You know, 519 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: even though you know kicker is a big deal, but 520 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: you said special team, so I think sixty six percent 521 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: of it is pretty much set. How do you factor 522 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: in the punt returner because right now punt returner from 523 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: last year we said this earlier on a show a 524 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: couple of days ago. He could be on this team 525 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: or not be on this team, Like, I don't I 526 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: think it's kind of a fifty fifty proposition as to 527 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: whether he even makes the team. He's also not even 528 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: fielding punts out here right There's a lot of other 529 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: guys doing that. So the point is, like, when you 530 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: factor in all of special teams, to me, there seems 531 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: to be a ton of questions there. And even if 532 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: you say the kickers decided, I don't know that you 533 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: feel great about it right now. So there's still are 534 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: question marks about how you think he's gonna perform same 535 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: thing with a punter. He that year was not a 536 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: great year for him, not the year the years that 537 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: we've been accustomed to seeing from Rush Jones. You certainly 538 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: wasn't last. But if you get your running back in order, 539 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: you don't have to punt that much. Yeah, one problem 540 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: can solve a bunch of others, right. I love that answer. 541 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: Like that high school coach in Arkansas that just never punts, 542 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: let's do that? Is that where it was? I know 543 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: someone like never just never punch baby, just didn't have 544 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 1: a punter. No, no analytics, baby, We're coming all right. 545 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: Next question, with regard to the backup quarterback position, I'm 546 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: gonna give you four statements. You tell me which one 547 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: is most accurate. Mike White has been better than Cooper Rush. 548 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush has been better than Mike White. Both have 549 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: been okay to good? Or Dallas needs help at backup quarterback. 550 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: I think there's a fifth one you could have said, 551 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: which was, what's the Christian is better than the other two? 552 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: Good point. I should have thrown that in. Really, No, 553 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: if you want to know, if you want to have 554 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: the conversation, have the conversation. I've only two first, Yeah, no, no, 555 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: not at all. We've watching two padded practices, and in 556 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: the first one, Taran Christian fumbled his first snap, fumbled 557 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: the exchange with the running back on the second snap, 558 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: and then threw a pass into the hands of a 559 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: defensive lineman. I didn't stop looking at him, but like 560 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: that's the only impression I have him. I don't even 561 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: remember what he did worse than Mike and Cooper rush 562 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: I don't know what you've been watching. I can't go 563 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: there with you. I was gonna say the last two answers, Um, wait, 564 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: remember the first was Mike watch better, Cooper rushes better? 565 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: A second, either one of those, and then both have 566 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: been okay to good, and then Dallas needs help at 567 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: backup quarterback. I'll say they've both been okay and Dallas 568 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: needs help a backup quarterback. I mean, like they're not 569 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: gonna get it, Like they're like we already knew that. 570 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't. I would not feel remotely comfortable with either 571 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: of them playing snaps in a real situation. Um, they've 572 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: both They've both made some decent throws. I haven't seen 573 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: either of them just do something atrocious yet. But I 574 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: haven't been wowed by either one of them. Either Cooper Rush. 575 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: He can throw such a pretty ball and then like 576 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: two reps later, it's you know, it's eighteen yards out 577 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: of bounds and you're like, what this is the same guy. 578 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: It's weird, Like it's very consistency is troublesome. But does 579 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: that make you feel like with more reps he might 580 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: actually get there because he does do some things that 581 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: pop for you. We've seen him do it before his 582 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: rookie year. He was so good that preseason his rookie year, 583 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: and we haven't really seen him get to that level since. 584 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'm not optimistic if I'm being honest, but 585 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: maybe Amber you got opinion on these two. I don't 586 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: feel comfortable with either of them. I think Cooper Rush 587 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: I feel that he has improved a little bit since 588 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: we've been here compared to what we have been seen 589 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: at the Star back at home. But is it enough 590 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: for me to be like, oh, yeah, I put him 591 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: in a game. No, not at all. I'm not trying 592 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: to be a jerk, but I gotta know what you've 593 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: seen from Taran Christian that inspires this comf He throws 594 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: the ball better than the other two you think, so, Yeah, 595 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: I trust you, really do. I think he throws the 596 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: ball better, and I think he's he's he's obviously more mobile. 597 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: I think I think if he gets some some snaps 598 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: in the games. I'm not sure he will, but I 599 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: mean I think I think he'll. I think when it's 600 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: all said and done, he'll be better than at least 601 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: one of them. I hope you're right. But but again, 602 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: when I say that, like, what are we talking, I mean, 603 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: when I'm talking about the bar being high those two 604 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: because other two aren't very good at all. To me. 605 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: This whole thing is and I'm not talking about wealthy, 606 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: rich people. I'm talking about just average people. Dak Prescott 607 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: is like, they're gonna treat Dak Prescott like you would 608 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: your car. You don't have a backup car. You just 609 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: have a car. And if your car breaks down, then 610 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: you gotta get a new car. You don't just have 611 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: another one in there. That's that's how they're going to 612 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: treat it. And and is that gonna be good? Maybe? Well, 613 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: going along with your analogy, what makes that a little 614 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: bit more palatable is the fact that you got a 615 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: new car, right, You got a new sturdy car, So 616 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: if you get a new sturdy car, you feel like, 617 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: I don't really need to worry about a backup. Right, 618 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: It's it's a whole different thing. If you've got a 619 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: car that's gut a little, you know, the engine's a 620 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: little weird tansmission's got some you know, you got four. 621 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: You can trust the four if you got If you 622 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: got a car that's kind of you've had it for 623 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: nine years and the wheel like over here, it kind 624 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,479 Speaker 1: of shakes a little bit, then you know, yeah, then 625 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: you know you need a backup. And I'm not having 626 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: thirty thousand miles on him. Dad has. DAK has about 627 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: twenty two, and he's sturdy, He's built like a tank. 628 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: He's feel like a Ford Trust. Right. So so the 629 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: point is, so the point is you can be a 630 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: little you can be a little bit more, uh, you know, 631 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: free with not worrying about the backup when you've got 632 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: a Yeah, I like that. It might come back to 633 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: bite us all in the butt. But I am comfortable. 634 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable trusting that DAK will be available for sixteen months. 635 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm just I'm not gonna dignify that. I 636 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: am not gonna dignify that. Okay, yeah, I get you, David. 637 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: I'm actually on the same page with what else are 638 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: you gonna do? You know, I mean, especially at this point. 639 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: That's which it would be a fun story if tarn 640 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: Christian is better than Cooper Russian, Mike White. But like, 641 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: what a bad look for the ops, for football ops 642 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: if like this dude that they signed on a whim 643 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: three days before camp beats out their two year groomed 644 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: back up and their draft pick, like just they're like, well, 645 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: we need an arm for camp. Get in here. Oh, 646 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: he's actually better than these guys we've been working on 647 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: for two years. Oh they won't look at it that 648 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: way because they're never wrong. And sixty five days a 649 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: year we look at these players. You know, he was 650 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: like he was always you always got to have an 651 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: out for why you weren't wrong. But I'll remember, all right, 652 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: next question, most impressive rookie And there's a list of them. 653 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: I'll throughout some of the names. You guys feel free 654 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: to use these or others. Tristan Hill, Jalen Guyton, Joe Jackson, 655 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: Jalen Jelks, John Vay, Johnson, Tony Pollard, Daniel Wise, Nick Christian. Um, Okay, 656 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: this is who you have the best feeling about, who's 657 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: at the best to practice. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. 658 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with my guy here. I just I 659 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: have this this hunch about Jalen Jelks. So I'm not 660 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: saying he's had great practices. He did not knock a 661 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: power forward on his ass, So I'll say Joe dumped him, 662 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: not just knocked like dumped him. Go ahead, Nick, I'm sorry, Dave, 663 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: um geez, looks sorry. I was just gonna say, like, 664 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: he looks the part. You know, he looks like he 665 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: has that mold of the rest of the group. So 666 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, he's a big, long, beefy dude. But 667 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: I turn that into um back on the rails. Uh. 668 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: It's way easier for receivers to stand out out here. 669 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: But Daniel Wise, he just he's doing stuff. He's he's 670 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: getting in there low man wins and all that good stuff. 671 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm encouraged by what I've seen from him so far. 672 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: All right, let me see the listing yesterday when you 673 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: didn't talk that much. You're mad, I don't ever get 674 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: the TA today you're just coming out fire she said, 675 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: I'll teach him. I got something for that. You know what, 676 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm most impressive or not. I 677 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: think Pollard I've seen flashes. Of course, this is something 678 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: that you would expect from this guy, but he has 679 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: shown flashes to where it's promising to what he can do. 680 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: And then once you plug that in with the old 681 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: line and everything else, I think he can be explosive 682 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: and really benefit from him on the field. We'll see, 683 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: but I would say he has the one that he's been, 684 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: the one I've been keeping my eye on the most. 685 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: I would just go with him. Let me ask you 686 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: a question about all you guys, a question about Tony Pollard. 687 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: One of the things that I heard a lot when 688 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: when the Cowboys drafted him was like, the guy has 689 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: a background playing receiver. One of his greatest assets is 690 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: he can catch the ball coming out of the backfield. 691 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: Have you guys seen him lining up outside or or 692 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: doing a lot of running routes down field that will 693 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: allow them to really exploit those assets. Um, and maybe 694 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 1: when Zeke is back, create opportunities when you put both 695 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 1: of them on the field, with him having a little 696 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: bit more of kind of an h back responsibility or 697 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 1: or even a receiver responsibility in some of those packages. 698 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: Yes to the first question, they've been moving him all 699 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: over the place. He's been shifting out of the backfield 700 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: and lining up wide. When you say down field like, 701 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm not talking, I don't want to, I'm not talking 702 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: to fly, I'm talking. Can he can he run a 703 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: dig route? Can he run a Yeah? Those are kinds 704 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: of things he's doing a sitting pretty much just a 705 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: flare get out in the out open fuel and this point, 706 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: that's what we have seen. And that's the thing. You know, 707 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm excited by his talent. I gotta see that they're 708 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: gonna use it in a new way before I believe it. 709 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: And that's on Kellen Moore. You know, I always I 710 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: fell a hook line and sinker for the Tavon experience. Yeah, 711 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: I don't, I'm not. I'm not gonna buy it until 712 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: I see it this time. But I hope, I hope 713 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: that they use them that way. But you know the 714 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: good thing with Kellen Moore is what I like so 715 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: far is that we have been seeing different mixes of 716 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: you know, routes and different things. He has been changing 717 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 1: it up to where you're not just seeing the same 718 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: stuff that we're used to seeing. So he's been creative 719 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: at least. One of the things that Nick and I 720 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: were talking about the other day that we saw that 721 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: we've seemed to notice a lot more is guys running free, 722 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: which to me speaks to a scheme. 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Cowboys have been through four practices, 787 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: although Day thinks it's only been too and we'll have 788 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 1: a lot more to talk about here in this final segment. 789 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,959 Speaker 1: A few more questions that will hit on this team 790 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: and what they've done so far through those practices. Next 791 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: question for you guys, player that's most likely not to 792 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: be on the final fifty three man roster. Here's some names. 793 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: Tackle Charlton, Xavier Sulphilo, Tavon Austin Cooper, Rush, Cavon Frasier. 794 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: Most likely not to make the final fifty three. Now 795 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: here's the thing I want. Here's the thing. I also 796 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 1: want to throw out Xavier Sue Philo. He's a guy 797 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 1: that is playing well out here. However, does that create 798 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: an opportunity for the Cowboys maybe to trade him to 799 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: get value on a position, maybe they want to bulk up. 800 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: You want me to say, Taco, that's what you know. 801 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: That's not what I want to say, because let me 802 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: all but let me also say this too, can also 803 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,399 Speaker 1: throw this in. I know we've given I know we've 804 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: given Taco hard time. Tacko's not been horrible, like there 805 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: have been a couple of plays I've seen Taco makeout 806 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 1: here during these first two practices. So let's be a 807 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: little bit caustiss of painting the picture because I think 808 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: we have painted the picture a little bit then, Like 809 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: when we say embarrassing like that it's not weak. When 810 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,439 Speaker 1: Amber says embarrassing, it does make the picture that he's 811 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: been like getting just completely overpowered out here. I don't 812 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: think that's been the case. When ninety nine point nine 813 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 1: percent of the people that are interested in the Cowboys 814 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: can only see it through the frame of what we 815 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: say or what we shoot on video, it's like a 816 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: runaway train, positive and naked, right, I agree, So no, 817 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: and yeah, and that's what like, I'm not. I'm not 818 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: going to bury a first round and pick before he 819 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 1: even has a chance to play in a preseason game 820 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: or go through more padded practices. So I don't want 821 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: you to say tackle, but go ahead. I think the 822 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: answer is Xavier Suaphilo. And that's not because he's not 823 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: a good player. It's because this is a loaded offensive line. 824 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: We I think we did this the other day. But 825 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,439 Speaker 1: you've got your starting five, you have Cam Fleming because 826 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: you need a swing tackle. Then you've got you've got 827 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: Joe Looney, who it seems silly to think that you 828 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 1: would part ways with him. Connor McGovern's not going anywhere. 829 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: You just drafted him in the top one hundred, so 830 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: you already have eight U so you're you're running out 831 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: of space. And again, how many interior offensive lineman do 832 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: you need? If you keep nine, wouldn't you like a 833 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: guy who can play tackle? Xavier Suafilo is a starting 834 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: caliber player. Maybe you could trade him for something, or 835 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: you know, somebody might come calling and you can bolster 836 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,879 Speaker 1: another position. So if I had to bet right now, 837 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: that would be that would be my guy. One thing 838 00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: I would throughout though I know we've had this conversation 839 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 1: as well. When you start talking interior linement or having 840 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: too many of them, two of your starting interior linement 841 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,439 Speaker 1: can also double out onto tackle, so you're not really 842 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 1: in a situation where you're really expose having that extra 843 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 1: interior offensive linement. Because we're talking about Zach as one, right, Yeah, 844 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: we're talking about Zach and we're talking about Connor. Both 845 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 1: of them can play tackle or at least have play 846 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: tackle at some point, and so I do think it 847 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: creates a little bit more of an opportunity for you 848 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 1: if you wanted to have them as your backup, backup plan. 849 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: I think that's optimistic just because I think they don't 850 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: want to move Zach, like you don't want the best 851 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: guard in the NFL playing another position unless there's no 852 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: other choice. And then Connor just hasn't done it enough, 853 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: like he's taken reps at tackle in one ota, I believe. 854 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: So I think that's a little optimistic, but I mean 855 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: I think it's a valid point. It would be the 856 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: backup to the backup though, right you already have a 857 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: swing tackle, and I would suspect if you lost a 858 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 1: tackle for suspend an extended amount of time, you'd go 859 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 1: out and get one yeah off the free agent line, 860 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: like you wouldn't necessarily going, but you could handle it 861 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: for the rest of that game if you need it to. 862 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: You know, Shiloh, his him being here to me is 863 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: a contingent on what happens with Frederick. If Frederick is 864 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: just like really good, no issues, no setback back to form, 865 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,919 Speaker 1: then I think you could maybe think about parting ways. 866 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: But if you if if that's not the case, and 867 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: I just don't expect it will be the case where 868 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 1: there's no concerns at all, because then you've got to 869 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 1: keep Looney in that role. That Looney could be the starter, 870 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: and then you got to have to a feelo there. 871 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 1: So I just wouldn't I wouldn't get rid of And 872 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 1: then you think about also, so a feel is not old, 873 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: what happens with Lyle next year, what happens if Connor 874 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,919 Speaker 1: moves out there? So a filo, I I don't govern 875 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 1: the answer that question. I get it, but then I mean, 876 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just know you've seen his chief, 877 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 1: he works hard. I don't know. That wouldn't be my 878 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 1: answer to that question. Okay, we'll get to answer. Yeah, 879 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 1: what's your answer, um Tavon Austin. I just I'll say, 880 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: I just don't you know where the role will be there. 881 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: I think Pollard will will do the things you want 882 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 1: him to do offensively, you can find a punt returner, 883 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, worry about making him punt you know. I mean, 884 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of opportunities to be you know, 885 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,320 Speaker 1: to have an aggressive punt return to anyways. So I 886 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 1: just don't know if if that that would be the 887 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: reason to keep him. You know, well, we'll see. He 888 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: just you know, he was hurt for a lot last 889 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: year and seemed okay with it, and I mean he 890 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: worked hard. I mean he got back when he got 891 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 1: back in there, he had a big, big play in 892 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: the playoff game. But I just don't know if you 893 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: need him as a gadget type player, which Pollard fills 894 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: that role. He's not a he never has been this 895 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 1: super polished receiver. Right. It's a good answer. That's who 896 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: I was leaning towards the most. But I just wonder 897 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: if Kellen Moore sees something in him to where maybe 898 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: he thinks that he can utilize him better or actually 899 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: just utilize him kills last year, they really did any 900 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: So I wonder, but I saw you on your list. 901 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: You have Cooper Hush, I would go with maybe Mike White. 902 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: Either one take it off because definitely you cannot keep 903 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks. Well they did last year. They did last year, 904 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: But at this point I don't, I just I wouldn't. 905 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't keep three, especially those two as an option. 906 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,439 Speaker 1: I wouldn't keep three knowing that if if Dak something 907 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: would happen to Dak, you're gonna go get it somebody else, 908 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: right well, and I think we all probably agree that 909 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: if something happened to Dak long term, they would be 910 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 1: going to get someone else. So it makes me wonder, like, 911 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: why would you have three on this roster, especially a 912 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,359 Speaker 1: roster is very deep and you're basically gonna you're gonna 913 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: have to cut some good players, right, You're gonna have 914 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 1: to cut some good players this year. Why cut a 915 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: good player in favor of keeping three quarterbacks where two 916 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: of them you feel like are pretty comfortable. I agree 917 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: with you wholeheartedly, But one thing I've learned is like 918 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: they get to do whatever the hell they want. It's 919 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: there absolutely no I get that out. Like would would 920 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: you be shocked? Would you be shocked if they kept three? No? No, 921 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 1: right shocked? But let me so, let me change the question. 922 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: Should they keep three? No? No, So we all agree, 923 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: and I want to if Mike White is even if 924 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: he's even close, it's just a money thing and a 925 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 1: year's thing. Mike White's got two more years or three 926 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: if you count this season. Cooper Rushes are restricted free agent. 927 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: It's the same thing. I think Cavon Frasier makes this 928 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: team for what he brings as a special teamer, but 929 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 1: he's got to watch out for Donovan Wilson because he's 930 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: the same player. He was drafted in the same round, 931 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: he plays the same position. If he can do what 932 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: Cavon does for a cheap at a cheaper price for 933 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: more years, that's probably where they'll go. So that's what 934 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: makes it hard for these veterans if you can't separate 935 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,359 Speaker 1: yourself from that young guy that's coming after your job. 936 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 1: For sure, I do think. I mean, Cavon has been 937 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: good enough on special teams, and you know, coaches love 938 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: to keep the guy that they trust to do what 939 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: they need to do, so I think that gives him 940 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: a leg up. All right, Free agent most likely to 941 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 1: make the final fifty three Georgia Loca, Kerrie Hyder, Christian Covington. 942 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: I think we all like Hyder and Covington. Question will 943 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: be though positions where they have a lot of depth. 944 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: So which of these three is, if you can only 945 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 1: take one, is most likely to make this team? Depth 946 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: is working against tighter at end. I think it's working 947 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: for Covington at tackle. Explain that, Well, you got Malik 948 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,720 Speaker 1: and you got Woods, and then we talked about yesterday. 949 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: Who else do you you're like that guy's on the team. 950 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Daniel Ross has been solid, but he's no 951 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,880 Speaker 1: lock by any means. If Covington's solid, then you know 952 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 1: you probably keep four defensive tackles and there's not There 953 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: isn't a third one that's definitively better than him on 954 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: the depth chart right now? Yeah? Yeah? What's how did 955 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,399 Speaker 1: you phrase the question, free agent? That was that's least 956 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 1: likely to make the final fifty three? Least likely? Oh 957 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 1: least I thought you said most I'm sorry, sorry, at 958 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: least likely most Let's do both ways, most likely and 959 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 1: least likely. So most likely you say Covington, who's your 960 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 1: least likely LOA? Which I think that will surprise a 961 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 1: lot of people because he's started eighty games and he's 962 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: been in the league for so long. But and it's early, 963 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 1: it's definitely early. But he's out here running with the 964 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 1: third team. You know, they trust, uh, they trust darry 965 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: and Thompson over him. While Xavier Woods was you know, 966 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: with the birth of his daughter. His you know, you 967 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 1: always got to look at the money in these search circumstances, 968 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: which I think they gave him nine hundred thousand. It's 969 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: a lot to us, but not to them. There's nothing, 970 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: there's no no contractual obligations tying them to him. So 971 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna need to be amazing, I think to beat 972 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 1: out some of this younger. He's got something working for him. 973 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 1: Though he went to Boise. Yeah, and when you go 974 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: to Boise now, I think it's probably Alocas the least likely. 975 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 1: But but Hyder's you know, not far behind there because 976 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 1: Hyder's just gonna be kind of caught up in just 977 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: the numbers depth game that I just don't know if 978 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: if he's gonna be hard. Yeah, it's gonna be tough 979 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 1: for him. And do you agree Covingtons most likely? I 980 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: think so, But here's the deal about Hyder. Hyder will 981 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 1: get a chance to make a splash play in preseason 982 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: game because he's the guy that plays second quarter. He'll 983 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: play a lot of the second quarter, maybe even first quarter, 984 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 1: first second quarter, and he'll make some plays and he 985 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 1: has a position. All you have to do is get 986 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 1: around the edge, sack the quarterback, cause a fumball, and 987 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well he's on the team. Think about 988 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 1: it first game if he does something like that, or 989 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 1: any of these guys Jackson jokes, any of those guys 990 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 1: do that, You're like, okay, well he's on the especially 991 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:24,880 Speaker 1: if you do it early in the game. Yeah, if 992 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: you do it like that. So those guys will have 993 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 1: an opportunity, and Hider will play a lot because he's 994 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 1: that He'll be in that first, second quarter, third quarter guy, 995 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,800 Speaker 1: play a lot and probably make an impact. I do 996 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 1: want to say this, and I don't want to harp 997 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 1: on it too much because I don't want to sound 998 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: like Mickey. But the reason why, the reason why I 999 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 1: balk at quarterly review and it's two padded practices. That's 1000 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,439 Speaker 1: my impression of Iloca right now. Right but you're talking 1001 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 1: about a guy that's been in the league since twenty thirteen. 1002 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 1: If he gets out here in some practices and starts 1003 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 1: diagnosing some plays and cuts in and gets a TfL 1004 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 1: or gets his hand on the ball and just does 1005 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: vets stuff, a week from now, we could be talking 1006 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,839 Speaker 1: about how damn my loca is making all these plays. 1007 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: He hasn't done anything yet. I would even argue they're 1008 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: not He hasn't had a great opportunity because he's buried 1009 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 1: on the depth chart. But by the time we start 1010 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 1: playing preseason games, it could be a whole different Guess what, 1011 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 1: Guess what we're gonna do a halfway review. I know, 1012 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,720 Speaker 1: and we're gone the camps and look, Rush did nothing 1013 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 1: really in the first couple of practice. As he goes 1014 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 1: to Canton and do the game against the Cardinals and 1015 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: he makes a few plays, and it's like, oh yeah, well, 1016 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be sitting here talking about somebody after 1017 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 1: that nine years game. But like four great catches here 1018 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: and then one one handed catch in the game, and 1019 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're boom. It's like the reason 1020 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: why we're smith, you know, It's the reason why we 1021 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 1: talked about Zavier Woods early in the show he had 1022 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,839 Speaker 1: a great interception the other day that that one play. 1023 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 1: He had a couple plays, but that one play makes 1024 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: him stand out. So you're right. You get one great 1025 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: play out here, one great play in a preseason game, 1026 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you start getting on the 1027 00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: radar of people ask hey, well, you don't want to look. 1028 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 1: You don't want the possibility of missing out on what 1029 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 1: this guy can bring you for the season. You don't 1030 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,399 Speaker 1: want to cut him, right, And that certainly happens. We've 1031 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 1: all seen it happened. And did you have an answer 1032 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 1: on that most likely and least likely free agent to 1033 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: make the final fifty three? I think least likely. I 1034 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,359 Speaker 1: would go with George just because of the position. When 1035 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 1: you talk about the other two guys, I think, and 1036 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: I know that people get injured all the time and 1037 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: they come back and they're still able to play. But 1038 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 1: for example, with Covington, when you look at Amalie Collins, 1039 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: the injuries that he's had, Antoine Woods, he's dealt with 1040 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 1: some things, had a surgery during the off season. They 1041 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 1: should be fine and all of that. But when you 1042 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 1: talk about injuries, it's just like I know it can 1043 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,840 Speaker 1: be a reoccurring thing. You're never one hundred percent healthy again. 1044 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 1: So position wise, I would just stick with those two 1045 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,799 Speaker 1: guys and leave George out. Okay, I just realized I've 1046 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 1: left Tristan Hill out of my d tackle depth chart. 1047 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: But the point still remains is that there's no clear 1048 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,959 Speaker 1: cut guy above Covington in terms of making the team. 1049 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 1: All right, final question, rookie most likely to make the 1050 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 1: team John rookie, I'm sorry. Rookie free agent most likely 1051 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 1: to make the team John Vay Johnson, Jalen Guyden, Daniel Wise, 1052 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 1: Mitch Hyatt, and Luke Gifford. Which of those rookie free 1053 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 1: agents is most likely to make the fifty three? You 1054 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 1: want me to say, I know, you know, I don't know. 1055 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 1: I know, I'm just it's a figure of speech, right. 1056 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 1: John Vay Johnson is the obvious one, and he has 1057 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 1: looked really impressive out here. But the unsetting he's been 1058 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 1: better than Guy Uh yeah, I do, but I mean 1059 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 1: not you know, splitting hairs, But I think he's been better. 1060 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: But the unsexy answer that might be right is probably 1061 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 1: Gifford because you know, every year we're like, they can't 1062 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,839 Speaker 1: stash this receiver. He's too good. And then for sure 1063 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: enough he's on the practice squad. But the linebacker that 1064 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 1: can come out here and play a bunch of special 1065 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 1: teams and doesn't look totally lost on defense, like that 1066 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,360 Speaker 1: guy always makes the team. He might not ever dress, 1067 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 1: but they'll put him on the team. So this was 1068 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 1: a nick question, by the way it was. It was 1069 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,360 Speaker 1: the reason why I did the question is to somehow 1070 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 1: figure out a way to get Gifford in an answer. 1071 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,279 Speaker 1: Right there you go, because you've been seeing the same 1072 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 1: thing right right. So I was gonna, you know, I 1073 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 1: thought John Vay would be somebody would pick John Vay 1074 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:20,319 Speaker 1: or or why, I mean why I've fallen in love 1075 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 1: with too many receivers over the years. Whether it happens 1076 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,959 Speaker 1: every Yeric Rogers Lance, you know what, I realized, every 1077 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 1: camp has those guys. Every camp has a free agent 1078 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,319 Speaker 1: right receiver that everybody kind of raves about a little bit. 1079 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 1: So when you say, well, we can't cut the Cobboys 1080 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 1: can't cut him because they lose him, well, every team hasn't. 1081 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 1: No teams worried. Abodcast is debating about their eighth executive 1082 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 1: right now, and here's what Gifford's gotta do. He's got 1083 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 1: to be better than Chris Covington, you know, he's got 1084 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 1: to be better than Marshall justin Marshall Lillard. So he 1085 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,359 Speaker 1: might not even have to be better than them because 1086 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna keep They're gonna keep six, maybe even seven. 1087 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 1: Because and I'm all due respect to Sean Lee like 1088 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 1: he's not I'm not thinking about him on special teams. 1089 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 1: Like your top three are here to play defense, then 1090 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 1: the core of your special teams is the back end 1091 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 1: of your linebacker chart. So whether I mean it could 1092 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: be Louke Gifford, Nate Hall's another one. Um. Yeah, keep 1093 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 1: an eye on these young linebackers whose names you don't know. 1094 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 1: Not Andrew Dowell because he was here and he's no 1095 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 1: longer here. I don't think he's out on the field 1096 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 1: to day. They've had a hamstring, you're gonna decide to 1097 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 1: wave him, give him injury settlement. He was a ricky 1098 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 1: free agent Andrew. When that happened, I was like we 1099 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,720 Speaker 1: had in Andrew Michigan Michigan State. That's bad. I should 1100 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 1: probably know that, ver I, Yeah, I didn't know that. 1101 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 1: You talk about guys that have been you have such 1102 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 1: a way with words like well, you know it is 1103 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 1: not you do this podcast every just mean, yeah, you 1104 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,359 Speaker 1: just need but talking about people that have that are 1105 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 1: no longer with the team, we didn't even mention that 1106 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,800 Speaker 1: Larry Allen Junior h was was has he been officially 1107 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,320 Speaker 1: he was released ship released in favor of a linebacker. 1108 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 1: Actually Justin Phillips still another name to keep an eye on. 1109 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,919 Speaker 1: You know, it's about who. You know, there's no doubt 1110 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 1: about it that he was here because he's Larry Alan's son. 1111 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 1: There's no doubt. And they gave him a shot and 1112 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 1: he didn't. He didn't have it. We knew. We get sad. 1113 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 1: We could see it. We we we could. But you 1114 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 1: have to be like the greatest offensive lineman in the 1115 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 1: history of the Cowboys, maybe the history of the NFL 1116 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: to get that right. I mean, it's not sad and 1117 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 1: ill it's this guy pegged it. It's not sad, but 1118 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it's side in the aspect 1119 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: when you have your dad's name and you're trying to 1120 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 1: maybe you don't know if that was his dream or not, 1121 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 1: but when you're trying to live up to your dad's 1122 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 1: legacy and expectation. Yeah, but you know, he got a 1123 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,280 Speaker 1: degree from Harvard. He went to Harvard. He got Harvard. 1124 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,399 Speaker 1: He got to put on the same jersey as his dad, 1125 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 1: even if it was only for a few months, he 1126 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 1: got you know, he got to do he'd lived the 1127 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 1: NFL experience for a very short period of time. But 1128 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 1: I mean he was he was at the Star came 1129 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 1: out here. There's a photo of him. I bet him 1130 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,280 Speaker 1: and his dad took a picture together after he signed 1131 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 1: or whatever. Like you know, I'm maybe he wanted to 1132 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: have a better shot at it, but it's still a 1133 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,919 Speaker 1: pretty nice story. Practice squad would have been a good, 1134 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, destination for him. If he makes this team 1135 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 1: practice squad one hundred thousand, he's about to go make 1136 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,839 Speaker 1: more than that something do whatever. I'm a graduate of Harvard. Yes, 1137 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 1: I will be interested to see, Like if you know, 1138 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 1: is he really I mean, he started in the IVY League, 1139 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,799 Speaker 1: Like he he can't be a terrible football player if 1140 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 1: he started in college football. So I wonder if anybody 1141 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 1: else will give him a shot. Maybe I don't know. Maybe, 1142 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 1: I mean, but like Nick said, like I'm not worried 1143 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: for him. No, he's going to have opportunity for Brian 1144 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 1: brought us. He already won. Yeah, he won this game 1145 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:50,960 Speaker 1: a long time ago. He absolutely did, and there's no 1146 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: reason for him to be ashamed or embarrassed about this. 1147 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,360 Speaker 1: He has a Harvard education, and like you said, he 1148 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 1: got an opportunity to live the dream for a bit, 1149 00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 1: even if it was just for a small way, longer 1150 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: than live at the vast majority of us. Absolutely right. 1151 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 1: All right, guys, we were wrapping this thing up. We 1152 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 1: will be back tomorrow at ten am Pacific time. Noon 1153 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 1: for you guys back in Dallas, talking a little more 1154 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys football with you till then. 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