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Speaker 1: Frank Staffle Greg Sussman. We're here talk some some action
Speaker 1: this hour. Jia Zakas joins us at the Reachenty excited
Speaker 1: about that. Always excited to have Virginia zakasan Greg. We
Speaker 1: gotta get some updates on some of these some of
Speaker 1: these NFL injuries, players that are coming back. Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: I love Carson Wentz, so I want to hear the latest.
Speaker 1: I have a feeling it's probably not going to be
Speaker 1: the most positive outlook for Carson Wentz and of course
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. I mean, you have to invest a late
Speaker 1: first early second round pick on a what is the
Speaker 1: twenty six year old running back who has authoritis in
Speaker 1: his knee. There's lots of worry about there. So we'll
Speaker 1: find out a bunch from Virginia Zakas of inside injuries
Speaker 1: coming up at about twenty minutes from now. Very excited
Speaker 1: about some of the players that we were just talking
Speaker 1: about in our one in our fantasy hour before we
Speaker 1: get to this baseball stuff. I really wanted to get into, um,
Speaker 1: I want to get into the the NBA. Is you
Speaker 1: heard it in the updates a few moments ago? Uh?
Speaker 1: The Contractawhite letters sign really was just like picking Steve
Speaker 1: Bomber and the Clippers just put him over his leg
Speaker 1: and he's like and saying, You're do whatever I want,
Speaker 1: Paul Georget me, Paul George, I want this. You're giving
Speaker 1: me this, and that includes a contract which is literally
Speaker 1: just two years an opt out. Crazy. How do you
Speaker 1: argue it? Though? It's how can you argue with it?
Speaker 1: If if Kawhi Leonard came to the Knicks and said that,
Speaker 1: what would you say? Greg? Sure of course want exactly.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be awesome when the summer one. What everybody's
Speaker 1: coming in the next babe, Let's let's start the campaign now.
Speaker 1: Janie and Kauai to the Knicks one. That's the latest,
Speaker 1: h Greg? Do the do NBA players have too much power?
Speaker 1: It's a constant No. I love it, back and forth.
Speaker 1: I love it. People talk about it a lot. You
Speaker 1: heard about it with Kevin Durant, Brooklyn Nets found out
Speaker 1: that he was signing with them via Instagram. They didn't
Speaker 1: even know. Is it crazy? No? I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it the players of power because who was performing
Speaker 1: players play And I've said this a lot with the
Speaker 1: NFL and the NFL owners and all this fight, like
Speaker 1: the players have no leverage in the NFL with a
Speaker 1: franchise tag and the owners cutting them and no guaranteed money,
Speaker 1: and it's frustrating. And when they had these holdouts that
Speaker 1: the Melvin Gordon thing we talked about before, like Melan
Speaker 1: Gordon's holding out. This sucks when I get why Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon's holding out because as someone that plays his position,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of carries on him from college that
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out, he'll never make the big contract.
Speaker 1: I get it. So the NBA, they have leverage and
Speaker 1: they use it. Kauai was very honest. He wants to
Speaker 1: go to LA the whole time, and he's like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I want my friends to play with me.
Speaker 1: You want me, you get him? And Steve Bomber said, Okay,
Speaker 1: you want me. You can be two years in an option. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the contract doesn't matter. Greg flags fly forever. We just
Speaker 1: saw as they take a risk. They trade for Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 1: Everyone knew that he was going to enter free agency
Speaker 1: after this past season they won a championship, if the
Speaker 1: Clippers won a championship in the next two years, and
Speaker 1: he opts out, nobody's going to care a championship. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing, leverage. The Kevin Durant story's
Speaker 1: crazy from Ryan Windhors. It's wild that Kevin Durant, this
Speaker 1: is something I will do a signing trade. So you
Speaker 1: get D'Angel Russell back, and I go like, all right,
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant for D'Angel Russell. No, no no, no, I'm worth
Speaker 1: more than D'Angel Russell. You're kidding me. So he forced
Speaker 1: Golden State to get something for her services, forced them
Speaker 1: to give up a first round pick. Greg, you can't
Speaker 1: make this stuff up. We went right from the hero
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant who sacrificed his body for the Warriors. He
Speaker 1: was a martyr. He went down with the ship. Greg.
Speaker 1: He knew that there was a chance he could tear
Speaker 1: his achilles, a very good chance at that, and he
Speaker 1: took that chance, and he put it all on the
Speaker 1: line for the chance for the Warriors to come back
Speaker 1: in that series, and who knows, maybe if he was
Speaker 1: they would have won that series. They probably would have,
Speaker 1: But he went from that hero. He changed his image
Speaker 1: for a whole two weeks. Greg. Because now we get
Speaker 1: this report from Brian Windhorst and Kevin Durant says, I
Speaker 1: will not be traded for just D'Angelo Russell because I
Speaker 1: am better than him. This is more of the same
Speaker 1: stuff that we've gone through with Kevin Durant in years past.
Speaker 1: Greg the burner accounts, the sensitivity. He can't handle criticism.
Speaker 1: He's got to make these Twitter burner accounts to respond
Speaker 1: to people as if he's like Durant's biggest fan. Why
Speaker 1: is everyone so sensitive nowadays? Greg? Really does he does?
Speaker 1: He have that big of an ego that like that's
Speaker 1: his legacy. I can't be traded for D'Angelo Russell. What
Speaker 1: are we doing here? What are we doing? I mean?
Speaker 1: And it's hilarious that like he had to get that
Speaker 1: out of the Warriors because I mean, if the reports
Speaker 1: are true that he was angry with that, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's pretty you know, that's a nice little middle finger
Speaker 1: on the way out. Huh. It cost me a year
Speaker 1: of my career. I might not be the best. I
Speaker 1: might not be the player I was before. Hey, how
Speaker 1: about you give up a first round pick if you're
Speaker 1: gonna sign, sign and trade me away for Daniel Russell.
Speaker 1: By the way, I believe that if the pick is
Speaker 1: read this, it picks in the top twenty, it converts
Speaker 1: like a second round pick in this major protection on
Speaker 1: this pick. They didn't have to give it up. That's hilarious.
Speaker 1: It's wild. But to answer you initial question, it does
Speaker 1: not bother me in the least. And the players have
Speaker 1: this power like they are before, and they are what
Speaker 1: people go to pay, not the owners. That James dol
Speaker 1: has enough power, It's true. I can't really argue it.
Speaker 1: And basketball with other than any other sport, the players
Speaker 1: have the most power, which is great. Yeah, which is awesome.
Speaker 1: I I gotta tell you, Greg, I really love that
Speaker 1: the way the NBA is shaping up right now, because
Speaker 1: it seems like for the first time in a long time.
Speaker 1: While we just spoke about the Clippers being the favorites
Speaker 1: for the championship, it seems like, for the first time
Speaker 1: in a long time that the NBA is wide open
Speaker 1: right now. We don't have super teams. We have a
Speaker 1: lot of duos, and you know, once Kiddie Thompson is healthy,
Speaker 1: then I guess you can consider the Warriors of super
Speaker 1: team again. But at least for this upcoming season, we
Speaker 1: have a lot of duo's. It's it's Paul George and
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard. It's Lebron James and it's Anthony Davis. It's
Speaker 1: Steph Curry and Draymond Green. And yeah they have Danceel Russell,
Speaker 1: but we'll see how that works out. It's James Harden
Speaker 1: and it's Chris Paul. There's not really any super teams.
Speaker 1: Seems like the NBA is wide open for the first
Speaker 1: time in a long time. I'm excited about it. I
Speaker 1: like it. We're gonna take a break here when we
Speaker 1: come back on the BFFs. He wants like baseball, he
Speaker 1: do you want to? Let's go to baseball? Baseball? Right?
Speaker 1: What's like with the All Star Game? Home run Derby?
Speaker 1: How our best for that? Lost me a lunch? Can
Speaker 1: I cash it on that tomorrow? Actually? Well ex actually evenings.
Speaker 1: I have thought people would come up, Hieranzo takes and
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Speaker 1: This is the Action Hour of the Best Friends Forever.
Speaker 1: So he's Frank, I'm Greg. Virginia's Hockets coming up next
Speaker 1: and rote you to look at the home run Durby
Speaker 1: last time. We did our Action Hour on Monday and
Speaker 1: we draft did and things are going really well for
Speaker 1: me until the finals. Yeah, you had three guys in
Speaker 1: the final four and I was just left with little
Speaker 1: Pete Alonso who came through in the clutch the Polar Bear.
Speaker 1: Let's go, Greggy. I'm sorry man, you had VLADIMR. Guerrero Jr.
Speaker 1: And I mean he hit nine home runs of the
Speaker 1: night and he ended up not winning the home run Derby.
Speaker 1: It's basically Josh Hamilton all over again. So I'm sorry, Bud.
Speaker 1: At least he put on the show. You know, honesty,
Speaker 1: you know honesty. I don't think Ladim Vladimig Gerreo should
Speaker 1: have been in the finals. Stayed by this, and I
Speaker 1: know Alex Hasano agrees with me. Why is that because
Speaker 1: John Peterson met him on Admittedly I had a basketball game.
Speaker 1: I didn't get to watch it live, So Alex we
Speaker 1: talked about this on Tuesday morning. I walked in there
Speaker 1: and they were counting all of Jock's home runs, right,
Speaker 1: they go thirty, he got thirty, he got just it
Speaker 1: up to be lad and they go, oh wait, no,
Speaker 1: no it's not. And our best bet, and our best
Speaker 1: bet on that show would have been correct, which we
Speaker 1: said our favorite for the finals was to be Peter
Speaker 1: lawnso versus Jack Peterson. The irony and all that, though,
Speaker 1: is if Jock went to the finals, he probably would
Speaker 1: have beat that was getting I think I think of
Speaker 1: John Peterson gets there, he beats Alonso probably right, he
Speaker 1: got the lefty and he's not He's honestly not swing
Speaker 1: nearly as hard as Lad. Yeah, and what we said
Speaker 1: the other day while previewing that is that Cleveland. The
Speaker 1: way that Cleveland Ballpark is set up is that it
Speaker 1: favored a left handed bat, and we thought that it
Speaker 1: would favor Jock Peterson and it clearly did so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and Vlad was putting on a show and hitting
Speaker 1: so many home runs honestly probably cost it cost him winning.
Speaker 1: I know that he had to go into like whatever
Speaker 1: the overtime with Jack Peterson, so he needed the home
Speaker 1: runs then, but he didn't need twenty seven in the
Speaker 1: first round. So he spended so much energy and by
Speaker 1: the time he got to the finals, he just didn't
Speaker 1: have as much left. And if you look at Flat,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a the world I'll uses husky. He's
Speaker 1: a husky, your boy, So yeah, he kind of he
Speaker 1: kind of wore down there, and Pete Alonzo was good
Speaker 1: to go. I will say it was pretty cool that
Speaker 1: it came down to like one awesome rookie against another
Speaker 1: awesome rookie and they get a million dollar whatever prize
Speaker 1: for winning, even though I think that they're both making
Speaker 1: like a minimum amount that you can in baseball because
Speaker 1: their rookies. So that was pretty cool. Yeah, shout out
Speaker 1: to Pete Alonzo, thins guys. Let mesk you a quick question,
Speaker 1: of course. Um so, a lot of people were upset
Speaker 1: with Pete beating Vlad because Vlady, do you think do
Speaker 1: you like the new time rule four minutes as opposed
Speaker 1: to the outru because I feel like the out rule
Speaker 1: would have prevented Vlad from ripping his arm out of
Speaker 1: his socket. Well, the same thing happened with the out
Speaker 1: rule though. Josh Hamilton a seven home runs when it
Speaker 1: was the out rule in Yankee Stadium, just nuts or whatever,
Speaker 1: however many he was, I don't know if it wasent.
Speaker 1: That was like the first time ever doing something like that,
Speaker 1: and now it's like every year we're gonna expect and
Speaker 1: ven Josh Hamiltons lost with with the ten out rule
Speaker 1: he had, you know, he broke the record. He was
Speaker 1: just mashing home runs in the Yankee Stadium. And then
Speaker 1: I believe he went up against Justin Moreno in the
Speaker 1: finals Greg and he lost. So I think if you're
Speaker 1: nitpicking here, I mean you can find flaws in both setups,
Speaker 1: Which one do you like better? For me? I kind
Speaker 1: of like the four minutes because you're because people are there,
Speaker 1: there's more angst, like there's more build up for it. Too, Like,
Speaker 1: if it's coming down to the y oh my god,
Speaker 1: he has to hit three more home runs in the
Speaker 1: next fifteen seconds in order to tie Vladimir Guerrero. That
Speaker 1: aspect of it is pretty cool. So I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I think I like the timeline a little bit more so. Well,
Speaker 1: my point with the time limit was people are for
Speaker 1: the show, right, Like people want to see as many
Speaker 1: home runs hit as possible, and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: this gives the fans what they want, and I think
Speaker 1: that's what the whole celebration should be about, giving the
Speaker 1: fans what they want ultimately. But then you can't have
Speaker 1: people being upset that Pete one hen he definitely need him,
Speaker 1: no question about it. I'm upset because they shouldn't have
Speaker 1: been him versus Lady, But but I am not upset
Speaker 1: the Pete one he won fren Square. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people who are upset that vlad
Speaker 1: lost are probably just Vladimir Guerrero Junior fanboys. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of them out there. I mean, I'm probably not
Speaker 1: on that level. I'm not a fanboy. I like Vladimir
Speaker 1: Garo Junior. I want him to succeed Vladimir Garreo Senior
Speaker 1: was probably my favorite baseball player growing up, So I'm
Speaker 1: learning for vlad Jr. But I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people who were sad that he lost are probably just
Speaker 1: his biggest fans. Greig and the stadium. Let's come on,
Speaker 1: the Mets needs something. He needs something, Greg, they got
Speaker 1: petelns and I'm sure they're gonna they're gonna try and
Speaker 1: spin that. They're gonna be like but but we have
Speaker 1: the home run derby Champs, So what who cares? We
Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs? Set the home run derby Champ.
Speaker 1: Happy that you bring this up because I've never not
Speaker 1: never Mets fans Twitter. It's the most Mets thing ever.
Speaker 1: Was freaking out about this. Let's not forget that we
Speaker 1: were you know, we had an eighty five and a
Speaker 1: half over under for wins this year. We were expected
Speaker 1: to compete in the National League East, something we are
Speaker 1: not doing right now. We won the home run derby. Greg,
Speaker 1: d oh pete, Oh pete, we got it. We did it.
Speaker 1: Hey did it? Oh my god, I diet it. But
Speaker 1: but there has to be a fine line too, right
Speaker 1: because they have to be allowed to celebrate. It's not
Speaker 1: that we're saying Mets fans can't be excited that Pete
Speaker 1: Alonso won the home run Derby. I think at the time, Greg,
Speaker 1: it's all right to be excited about it. But all right,
Speaker 1: you know, after the night of the home run Derby,
Speaker 1: I think it's probably like morning they were so like
Speaker 1: two years ago and Aaron Judge won a home run
Speaker 1: Derbies rookie year. Were you like that? Not only I was,
Speaker 1: I was pretty excited about it, but at that time,
Speaker 1: the Yankees were also competing for a wild card spot
Speaker 1: and they went farther than I'm not listen, I'm not
Speaker 1: killing the Mets fans for being happy. Like you could
Speaker 1: be happy at the time of it, but I don't
Speaker 1: think I was like that. That's reality said back in.
Speaker 1: You gotta remember the home run Derby champ does not
Speaker 1: change all the failures that come along with the New
Speaker 1: York Mets this season. To me, it's ridiculous. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I agree with what are you gonna excited for? Pete Alonzo?
Speaker 1: The game itself last night? Did you watch your game
Speaker 1: two nights ago? Rather, I didn't watch a lot of it.
Speaker 1: I think I watched. I checked in here and there,
Speaker 1: I watched the first ending with like Freddie Freeman miked up.
Speaker 1: I thought miking up hitters was very stupid. I didn't
Speaker 1: like that aspect. I like when the micup fielders, like,
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. You're here guys calling people off and
Speaker 1: you're having conversations with them. That's fine. I mean, when
Speaker 1: you're in the outfield, you're board okay. But when you're
Speaker 1: talking to Freddy Freeman, he's trying to swing it back
Speaker 1: against Justin Verlander. Come on, now, what are we doing.
Speaker 1: I understand it's an exhibition game, but it's hard enough
Speaker 1: to try and square one up against Justin Verlinder. It's
Speaker 1: probably even harder when Joe Buck is in your ear
Speaker 1: talking like this, Freddie Freeman, what can you tell us
Speaker 1: about that nasty twelve six curveball that Justin verlanderd just
Speaker 1: gave you? Oh? Snap, you just swung and missed that
Speaker 1: the next one because you weren't ready. I could do
Speaker 1: without that. I loved it. I mean, you love anything
Speaker 1: that Joe Buck does. So let's get that. Let's let's
Speaker 1: clear the air here. You're probably Joe Buck's biggest fan.
Speaker 1: Book is an underrated announcer. Still despite being the lead
Speaker 1: anouncer of foxter by entire life he's underrated number one.
Speaker 1: You can also agree that you like him more because
Speaker 1: of brock Buyer. You probably like him more as a
Speaker 1: broadcaster now because of what he's done on brock Buyer admitted, correct,
Speaker 1: So you're biased. No, yes you are. I wasn't even
Speaker 1: talking about Joe Buck, dude. I'm just talking about like
Speaker 1: the Mike's like being able to like talk to these guys.
Speaker 1: While their play was awesome, hearing them talk to each
Speaker 1: other was awesome. Yeah, I like doing it with feelers.
Speaker 1: I just don't like bothering Freddie Freeman's trying to swing
Speaker 1: a bat agains stuffing awome talking to a hitter. I
Speaker 1: could be wrong. Did they make up any of the pictures?
Speaker 1: I didn't see it, So then you got to do
Speaker 1: it both ways. I agree. You can't only mike up
Speaker 1: and and throw them off while they're trying to hit
Speaker 1: against some of the best pictures in the world, and
Speaker 1: not mike up the pictures when they're trying to face
Speaker 1: some of the best hitters. Could not agree. It's gotta
Speaker 1: go both weights, absolutely, although I wouldn't want it. I
Speaker 1: don't you don't have to make up hitters and pictures. Yes,
Speaker 1: you do. This is mike up the fielders, so much
Speaker 1: fun with the guys. I'm gonna try to hit this
Speaker 1: fastball like well, it makes its awesome. It makes it
Speaker 1: even more of an exhibition game, Greg, and I guess
Speaker 1: that's what is exactly what it is is an exhibition game.
Speaker 1: This is a hot take. Nobody agrees with me. I
Speaker 1: like when the All Star Game determined who had home
Speaker 1: field advantage in the world. I agree, Frank, that is
Speaker 1: a big stipulation that needs to be said. That's horrible.
Speaker 1: I understand most people disagree with me vehemently. Here's my point.
Speaker 1: I like, when it matters, singlething, single sense point. Can
Speaker 1: we make it matter for something else? Can we do
Speaker 1: Can we give the winners like a bonus or something
Speaker 1: money than they get money? There needs to be more
Speaker 1: incentive to it is an exhibition Number one, number two
Speaker 1: imbers two. When you have a rule, they try harder.
Speaker 1: When you have a rule than every player player every
Speaker 1: team has the All Star Game, you cannot have it
Speaker 1: represent home field advantage when you're because everyone's gonna get
Speaker 1: in there right for the most part. When you have
Speaker 1: John Buck catching instead of whoever the top catcher was
Speaker 1: with Joe Mauer at the time, designing a home feel
Speaker 1: advantage that John buck is at the plate. That can't happen.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, Craig, you're nit picking one player
Speaker 1: out of how many that they have to have exams
Speaker 1: and stuff, but the best players are still starting for
Speaker 1: the most part and it cannot pay. Yeah, but they're
Speaker 1: I mean, like if it's rohobe levantage justin Verlin removed
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Speaker 1: the way for inside Injuries report. Uh, Frank knew how
Speaker 1: to get me riled up and it was successful at it? So, Greg,
Speaker 1: what should be the new incentive for the All Star Game? Is? No?
Speaker 1: Do you not need? Why not? So? What do you
Speaker 1: play for Why do you even have it? Cancel it?
Speaker 1: Cancel it, give a week off. Why do we have
Speaker 1: an NBA All Star Game? What do you whoa? Why? Well?
Speaker 1: I mean basketball is more entertaining than baseball, just overall,
Speaker 1: in a vacuum, there's more entertainment value to me, at
Speaker 1: least in basketball generally. I'm fine. Cancel all of them.
Speaker 1: If there's no insensive, cancel all of them. Why are
Speaker 1: we playing them? Then? What are we doing? Sure, you're
Speaker 1: right that having it decide the home field advantage of
Speaker 1: the World Series probably is too much incentive, But I
Speaker 1: feel like there should be something involved. There is money,
Speaker 1: is there though? How much? You know what? I don't
Speaker 1: have you play in the Kickball All Star Game? We
Speaker 1: don't have one. If you have Kickball tonight, No have
Speaker 1: Dodgeball tonight. I'm actually off next week. Kick Why don't
Speaker 1: the game for like two weeks? Sorry? But that's right?
Speaker 1: Or no though? Four no, see what happens in dodge
Speaker 1: ball to also undefeated on the year. It's our friend Virginia.
Speaker 1: Zaka is from inside Injuries. It's in Virginia, you guys.
Speaker 1: It's going really really well. We're happy talking some football here,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to get into what we're talking about earlier.
Speaker 1: The biggest story when it comes to fantasy football is
Speaker 1: the status of Todd Gurley, who everything said he was
Speaker 1: fine except his play where he didn't seem fine. And
Speaker 1: now every question we get has to do with Todd Gurley.
Speaker 1: Every question we have is for Todd Gurley. And yesterday
Speaker 1: the latest news was, well, see how it goes when
Speaker 1: I get out there. I'm like, what what do you mean?
Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes when we get out there.
Speaker 1: Like what we heard rumors that his knees Arthur Scott
Speaker 1: is arthritic. This is our first or second round pick, greg,
Speaker 1: we can't just base. We'll see what happens when we
Speaker 1: get out there on our first or second round page. Reginia,
Speaker 1: can you give us some inside of Todd Gurley please?
Speaker 1: Absolutely so. Every thing we're hearing is in line with
Speaker 1: what we said late last season that there's likely some
Speaker 1: cartilage damage in his knee. UM. This is pretty common
Speaker 1: when a guy tears their a c l um like
Speaker 1: Gurley did back in UM. He hasn't really had any
Speaker 1: major knee issues since then, but of course he aggravated
Speaker 1: it last year Um, you know, if he's dealing with
Speaker 1: arthritis or other you know, cartilage issues. UM, this is
Speaker 1: something that's gonna bother him this season and throughout his career. Um.
Speaker 1: He can have some very good weeks, he might have
Speaker 1: a stretch of a month where he does really well,
Speaker 1: but it's very easy to aggravate. UM. It takes a
Speaker 1: lot of pain management throughout the way, and he's he's
Speaker 1: likely to miss some time here and there, and this
Speaker 1: is something that could shorten his career. UM could knock
Speaker 1: him out of a game early. It's just there's really
Speaker 1: no way to predict how his knee is going to
Speaker 1: respond other than the fact that we know that it's
Speaker 1: going to be aggravated at some point. I know, our
Speaker 1: long term BFF, Michael Florio greg is advocating for people
Speaker 1: to take Todd Gurley at his current price, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the first round, early
Speaker 1: second round. I mean, we're gonna have to talk to
Speaker 1: Mike about it, because I mean, even if you get
Speaker 1: seventy five to eighty percent of what Todd Gurley has
Speaker 1: been the past couple of years from my fantasy perspective,
Speaker 1: that'll be awesome. But he's still at such a high
Speaker 1: risk of re injury, you know, getting shut down because
Speaker 1: of this knee. There's just a lot of moving parts,
Speaker 1: right You can't win your fantasy drafts in the first
Speaker 1: round or two, but you can certainly lose it. It's true, man,
Speaker 1: if this guy gets ends up getting shut down at
Speaker 1: some point or he's not nearly the Todd Gurley he
Speaker 1: was of years past, I mean, it's just a lot
Speaker 1: to invest your late first, early second round pick in
Speaker 1: right now. So I'm a little bit more worried about
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. I don't know if I can draft him
Speaker 1: where he's currently going in drafts. Virginia. I want to
Speaker 1: ask you about another player who impacts a lot of
Speaker 1: pretty much the entire Carolina Panthers offense, and that's Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm a little bit more worried about
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey because I worry about Cam Newton and the shoulders.
Speaker 1: So he had Arthur's copic shoulder surgery in the off season,
Speaker 1: which they are label as a clean up. What's the
Speaker 1: latest that you have on Cam Newton? Is this something
Speaker 1: that can flare up? Is he going to be good
Speaker 1: to go by week one of the season. Is he
Speaker 1: good to go for a training camp? Is it similar
Speaker 1: to Andrew Luck. I just feel like there's a million
Speaker 1: questions when it comes to came noon. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: lot going on here. UM. He's had two shoulder surgeries
Speaker 1: now in the last three years, which is incredibly concerning
Speaker 1: for a quarterback. UM. The first one was to repair
Speaker 1: his rotator cuff. This one sounds a little bit more minor,
Speaker 1: but because it's his second shoulder surgery, it is a
Speaker 1: huge concern. UM. They called it a cleanup procedure. I
Speaker 1: suspect it's a little bit more than just, you know,
Speaker 1: a very basic cleanup procedure. UM. They also made a
Speaker 1: comment that there wasn't as much cartilage damage as they
Speaker 1: thought there might be, which sounds like a good thing.
Speaker 1: But it does indicate that there is some cartilage damage
Speaker 1: in his shoulder. UM. So I am a little concerned
Speaker 1: about him this season. He's been throwing. UM. He's expected
Speaker 1: to be a full participant training camp, which is all
Speaker 1: good news. But I think this is one of those
Speaker 1: situations where he's going to start off the season pretty strong.
Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna think he's back, He's good to go. He's
Speaker 1: got his strength and his accuracy back. But then at
Speaker 1: some point he's going to take that one big hit,
Speaker 1: or he's going to do that one little movement that
Speaker 1: aggravates his shoulder, and we're gonna be kind of back
Speaker 1: where we began once again. So I don't think he's
Speaker 1: someone you can trust throughout the season. But I do
Speaker 1: think he could start off the season well and have
Speaker 1: some good moments, just won't be consistent and Greg Cam
Speaker 1: could be prone to some of those big hits because
Speaker 1: he likes to run the football. I was gonna where
Speaker 1: all of his value comes really is in his legs.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of the story I think of Cam
Speaker 1: Newton is down the stretch second half the year, he
Speaker 1: does tire out because he takes those big hits. He
Speaker 1: as he goes through the goal line, he gets pounded, absolutely,
Speaker 1: because why risk it when the quarterback position is so deep?
Speaker 1: You know creat but hit the upside with Cam Newton
Speaker 1: is just so high. That's why you risk it. Because
Speaker 1: he does so much as a runners. If he doesn't
Speaker 1: run as much, what's his fantasy value look like. That's
Speaker 1: why I have question marks. That's fair, but you don't
Speaker 1: want to go with Cam Newton. There's a couple of
Speaker 1: different directions you could go in, and that includes Carson Wentz,
Speaker 1: who missed the second have of last year with an
Speaker 1: injury after Terry's a c L the season before. I
Speaker 1: don't want to call Carson Wentz injury Prome. And then
Speaker 1: now that's two season ending injuries in a row. The
Speaker 1: Eagles have moved on from Nick Foles. This is Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz his team. How can serd we should we be
Speaker 1: long term about Carson Wentz's health? So, WinCE I was
Speaker 1: diagnosed with a stress fracture in his back. UM. Stress
Speaker 1: fracture is kind of a strange term to call an
Speaker 1: injury directly to the spine. This is more than likely
Speaker 1: to one of the little pieces that sticks off the spine. UM.
Speaker 1: Good news and bad news here. The good news is
Speaker 1: um he should be fully recovered by the time the
Speaker 1: season starts, that fractures should be fully healed. But if
Speaker 1: we're accurate in saying that this really is a stress
Speaker 1: fracture UM not directly to the spine, then there is
Speaker 1: a very high risk of re injury. UM. Again, kind
Speaker 1: of like Cam Newton, one big hit and it could
Speaker 1: very quickly cause another fracture and his back to either
Speaker 1: the same location or a similar location. So, um, when
Speaker 1: looking at his back easily being reaggravated, and then you know,
Speaker 1: still his knee. He tore his A c L and
Speaker 1: his L c L in tween. Well, he really should
Speaker 1: be pretty much fully recovered. His his knee is not
Speaker 1: going to be the same as it was pre injury.
Speaker 1: So I do think, um, we're showing that he's a
Speaker 1: high injury risk right now. He might get back into
Speaker 1: that elevated category by week one if he's looking pretty
Speaker 1: good through the preseason. Um, and he can be a
Speaker 1: full participant in His back wasn't holding him back at all.
Speaker 1: But there's going to continue to be some concerns with
Speaker 1: Wentz um now with with two bonny parts his knee
Speaker 1: and his back going forward, And that sucks great because
Speaker 1: you know that I love Carson Wentz this year, but
Speaker 1: sounds a lot like Cam Newton, at least in terms
Speaker 1: of the risk. It's not similar injuries at all, and
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to compare those two, but in terms
Speaker 1: of the risk that comes with drafting Cam Newton, there's
Speaker 1: also a lot of risk that comes with drafting Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: So that sucks because I think he's in a really
Speaker 1: good spot in terms of his offensive line and the
Speaker 1: weapons that he has on his team. Virginia, want to
Speaker 1: ask you about DeVonta Freeman. It feels like every year
Speaker 1: we're asking you about DeVonta Freeman, and I have a
Speaker 1: feeling you're gonna be pretty pessimistic on him just because
Speaker 1: he's dealt with knee, foot, groin, two concussions, three concussions,
Speaker 1: n c L, PCL sprains. I mean, I mean, you
Speaker 1: name it. It sounds like DeVonta Freeman has had it.
Speaker 1: What's his diagnosis heading into the season. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: kind of hit the nail on the head. He's dealt
Speaker 1: with a little bit of everything here. Um, there's no
Speaker 1: one specific injury we're currently worried about. His growing after
Speaker 1: surgery last year should be fully healed. Um, his nie
Speaker 1: should be fully healed. But it's pretty tricky, like there's
Speaker 1: clearly something going on in there. Um, He's seventeen season
Speaker 1: ended with a pretty serious PCL and mcale sprain, and
Speaker 1: then he aggravated that injury in Week one last year,
Speaker 1: and that was despite having the entire offseason to strengthen
Speaker 1: his knee and recover. So um, I'd say his knee
Speaker 1: is probably the biggest concern going forward, not his groin um,
Speaker 1: but but the list goes on and on with him.
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, he has three concussions
Speaker 1: since I believe UM two and seventeen, so that is
Speaker 1: incredibly concerning here. So he's a high injury risk. UM.
Speaker 1: You know, don't really have a great prediction on what's
Speaker 1: going to be injured, but more than likely at some
Speaker 1: point in the first half of the season he's going
Speaker 1: to pick up some sort of an injury. All right,
Speaker 1: we have two minutes. Are you around up and hang
Speaker 1: out with us for a little while after after a
Speaker 1: break as well. Yeah, cool, appreciate that. One more question
Speaker 1: before the break. I'm gonna just expect my quarterback story here,
Speaker 1: and there's one more quarterback on our list. It's Jimmy
Speaker 1: g We just finished talking about him, Jimmy Garravelo towards
Speaker 1: a c L. So Tom Brady, he came back. All right,
Speaker 1: would you be gb okay too? I finally have some
Speaker 1: good news for you. Yeah, we're actually showing he should
Speaker 1: be good to go. His was a clean a c L. Tear. UM.
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks that have clean a c L tears tend to
Speaker 1: recover pretty well. UM. Given the technology on a c
Speaker 1: L reconstructions, now he should be almost as good as new. UM.
Speaker 1: It's not exactly the same as you know, pre injury,
Speaker 1: but we think he's gonna be good to go. UM.
Speaker 1: I think they'll kind of slowly test him out early
Speaker 1: at training camp because there's really no reason not to. UM.
Speaker 1: Probably won't see him much, if at all, in the preseason,
Speaker 1: but I think he'll be good to go by week one.
Speaker 1: Make it off to a little bit of a slow start,
Speaker 1: just as he gets comfortable getting back out there and
Speaker 1: taking hits and moving around. But I actually think we
Speaker 1: should see a pretty good season from him. Yeah, take that, you,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo naysayers. I hope Chris Venture the closer downstairs
Speaker 1: is listening, because Jimmy g Q just got a good diagnosis.
Speaker 1: Let's go Greg, how about that. Jimmy g Q should
Speaker 1: be riding a rock for the season. All right, we
Speaker 1: can take a quick break. We only have a Virginia
Speaker 1: for a couple more minutes after the break, so we
Speaker 1: have a lot of players we want to get to.
Speaker 1: Can give a c L s where you get to
Speaker 1: Darius guys, where he gets Cooper Cup. We gotta get
Speaker 1: the char of beginning. We got a lot of talk
Speaker 1: about a lot of al the a c L is
Speaker 1: going on. Make sure you take care of those knees, Greg,
Speaker 1: please do. We've got more players to talk about, Virginia,
Speaker 1: and we'll go over to some second half of the
Speaker 1: season betting odds when it comes to baseball on the
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Speaker 1: Fantasy Best Friends or DBFFC Action our Year, Greg Susman,
Speaker 1: Frank Stample, Virginia Zakis I hear another few minutes with
Speaker 1: us Virginia. We'll try to make it as quick as
Speaker 1: we possibly can. Darius, guys, we get into It was
Speaker 1: one of Frank's favorite targets last year until he got
Speaker 1: severely hurt and had a couple of setbacks, and we
Speaker 1: think he's ready to go? What say you? Yeah? So
Speaker 1: everything about all the reports on him seemed just kind
Speaker 1: of a little iffy. Um. So he tore that a
Speaker 1: c L in the preseason last year and then he
Speaker 1: had three surgeries to address an infection. UM. He's postoperative
Speaker 1: infections damage the structural integrity of the knee. So even
Speaker 1: though he's coming along nicely, his knee really is not
Speaker 1: going to be the same. This is not a case
Speaker 1: like Jimmy Garoppolo, where you know he's had surgery, clean tear,
Speaker 1: he should be good to go. UM. In this case,
Speaker 1: I'm very worried long term about his knee, but also
Speaker 1: with you know, the other muscles and his legs. UM.
Speaker 1: One report even made a comment about his quad, making
Speaker 1: sure he was ready to go. UM, So we need
Speaker 1: to be on the lookout for any sort of knee soreness,
Speaker 1: but also a quad or hamstring strain. UM. Those injuries
Speaker 1: are pretty common when players are coming back from an
Speaker 1: a c L tear, but especially somebody like guys who's
Speaker 1: had all of these issues and infections and has had
Speaker 1: a slow rehab um So I think we'll see him
Speaker 1: at some point during training camp, but I would not
Speaker 1: be surprised if he is not ready to go week one.
Speaker 1: His knee isn't going to be the same, says Virginia's
Speaker 1: kind of scares me away when it comes to Darius
Speaker 1: Guys from the fact that Washington has resigned Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure that they want some insurance there.
Speaker 1: I think that Darius Guys is gonna get off to
Speaker 1: a really slow start. Greg. I don't know that Washington
Speaker 1: is gonna lean on him all that much early on.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's someone who takes off in the second half
Speaker 1: of the season, but I think it's gonna be quite
Speaker 1: a slow start for Darius Guys. Virginia, I want to
Speaker 1: ask you about another A c L. Great kind of
Speaker 1: preview it before the break, and that is Todd Gurley's
Speaker 1: teammate and Cooper Cup. What's the outlook for Cooper Cup
Speaker 1: heading into this season. As far as I've known, I
Speaker 1: haven't seen anything about infections or any other surgeries. I
Speaker 1: think it's just been a pretty much clean A c
Speaker 1: L tear for Cooper Cup yep. As far as we
Speaker 1: can tell, it's a clean tear. UM. The one thing
Speaker 1: working against him is that he hurt his knee later
Speaker 1: in the season. It was around Week ten, so he's
Speaker 1: gonna be a few months behind some of these other guys. UM.
Speaker 1: I do think he has a decent chance of being
Speaker 1: UM ready to play Week one, but I doubt we
Speaker 1: see him in any preseason games, and if he is
Speaker 1: cleared ahead of Week one, I would not be surprised
Speaker 1: if he If he doesn't play much the first few weeks, UM,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just tough when you're coming back from
Speaker 1: an a c L injury that quickly. And he also
Speaker 1: did hurt his m c L last year a few
Speaker 1: weeks before he tore his a c L, so there
Speaker 1: is a chance that he's also dealing with some m
Speaker 1: c L damage that may have slowed his recovery along
Speaker 1: the way. But good news is he's actually already back
Speaker 1: in the elevated risk category. He's no longer high risk UM,
Speaker 1: and I think he should end up with a pretty
Speaker 1: strong season. He just might get off to a slow
Speaker 1: start in the first month or so. An advantage right,
Speaker 1: you could draft Cooper Cup and or don't draft Cooper Cup.
Speaker 1: People draft them slow story. You've hounced yeah a little
Speaker 1: by Low earlier on in the season. We know that
Speaker 1: it's a really good offense, one that might have to
Speaker 1: lean on the past a little bit more if they
Speaker 1: don't want to run girly into the ground. Their offensive
Speaker 1: line isn't as good as it was in years past,
Speaker 1: so that might force him to throw a little bit lust.
Speaker 1: They have a target on their back. They just made
Speaker 1: it to the Super Bowl. So yeah, all this adds
Speaker 1: up to potentially more passing for the Los Angeles Rams.
Speaker 1: Might actually be a good thing for your boy, Robert Woods.
Speaker 1: Great on and Robert Wood. One more player I wanted
Speaker 1: to get to Virginia before we let you go, and
Speaker 1: that is Jerick McKinnon. We talked about the Four Nighters
Speaker 1: before and we specifically asked you about Jimmy g. Well,
Speaker 1: we're talking about Tevin Coleman. We talking about Matt Brida,
Speaker 1: so it's maybe go to Matt Frida as well. But
Speaker 1: this running back situation with San Francisco was so so
Speaker 1: tough to figure out, with Coleman being signed, McKinnon coming back,
Speaker 1: Brita always being hurt how do you see this four
Speaker 1: Niners backfield shaken out. I'm actually a little more concerned
Speaker 1: about Brida than I am McKinnon. Surprisingly, UM, McKinnon, it
Speaker 1: sounds like his was a clean a c L tear.
Speaker 1: Um it was in the preseason, so again he's had
Speaker 1: a lot of time to recover. UM. Players tend to
Speaker 1: do much better when they're out longer than you know,
Speaker 1: nine to eleven months. UM. It really can make a
Speaker 1: big difference, especially and even in just getting confidence in
Speaker 1: the knee, but also strengthening the rest of the leg.
Speaker 1: So I think McKinnon should come back UM and should
Speaker 1: look pretty good early on. UM. Brita on the other hand, UM,
Speaker 1: he had all of those ankle issues last year, and
Speaker 1: he also stuff a slightly torn pectoral last month. UM
Speaker 1: that shouldn't be an issue by the time the season
Speaker 1: starts because he didn't need surgery. But the ligaments in
Speaker 1: his ankle are clearly very weak, and I would be
Speaker 1: shocked if at some point he doesn't aggravate that and
Speaker 1: cause some sort of an angle spring this season. You
Speaker 1: know who will is healthy? Greg, Let's go absolutely the
Speaker 1: only one you don't have to worry about in terms
Speaker 1: of injuries for now, For now, Virginia Zakas Inside Injuries.
Speaker 1: We appreciate the extra time today and have a great weekend. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: thank you. That's Virginia Zakas from Inside Injuries. Frankie, Uh,
Speaker 1: let's waiting football now. I wanted to get some baseball stuff.
Speaker 1: That's cool returns tonight? Great, John, wanna make a pick
Speaker 1: on the game coming up in about ten minutes from now.
Speaker 1: First I've heard about it. You pick? Uh? So? Thanks?
Speaker 1: In about ten minutes from now, I have the updated
Speaker 1: World Series odds in front of me. Frank, who do
Speaker 1: you believe the favorites are to win the World Series?
Speaker 1: The Let's go with Los Angeles Dodgers. The Dodgers open
Speaker 1: at plus eight hundred on the year. They are now
Speaker 1: the favorites at plus three hundred. The favorites opening the
Speaker 1: season with the New York Yankees. They are plus three
Speaker 1: fifty the second highest favorite, followed by the Astros, who
Speaker 1: were third to start the second rather to start the
Speaker 1: year there plus four hundred, followed by the Bravos and
Speaker 1: the Twinkies. Didn't you like the Twinkies coming in this year?
Speaker 1: You love them? Right? I love them? One I didn't
Speaker 1: but I'm mad at myself because when we did the
Speaker 1: over unders and we were predicting like the division winners,
Speaker 1: I had the Twins and you guys talked me out
Speaker 1: of it and I changed it to the Indians. Well,
Speaker 1: don't be a sheep. People. That matters a lot less
Speaker 1: than you just go into the sports book and just
Speaker 1: putting like ten bucks on the Twins forty one. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: it would have been a great bet too, And I
Speaker 1: still think it's not a terrible bet at this point.
Speaker 1: Obviously you don't get as much value, But I think
Speaker 1: pouncing on the Twins now if you wanted to, makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense before they make trades, greg Because
Speaker 1: I think that they will make trades. We've heard them
Speaker 1: linked to Madison bum Garner and Marcus Stroman. They could land,
Speaker 1: they could end up with one of those guys. They
Speaker 1: could end up with both of those guys, and if
Speaker 1: that's if that's the case, we know that their offense
Speaker 1: is really good. If they just could just get any
Speaker 1: semblance of a pitching staff here heading into the postseason,
Speaker 1: there could be a dangerous team, greg O. Their favorites
Speaker 1: include the Cubs right now plus two thousand Phillies plus
Speaker 1: twenty two hundred Rays or plus two hundred there plus
Speaker 1: sixty six hundred coming into the season. Uh, and then
Speaker 1: you have the Red Sox right out down to plus Uh.
Speaker 1: Let's you had to predict the World Series right now? Greg,
Speaker 1: what are you? What are you leaning with? UM? Take
Speaker 1: value out of it, just whoever you think is gonna
Speaker 1: be there. Looking at the rematch man two years ago Dodgers,
Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I just think they're two
Speaker 1: strongest teams that really do. Yeah, and I know that
Speaker 1: the Yankees are have they are. They are the favorite,
Speaker 1: second highest favorite their head of the Astros right now. Uh,
Speaker 1: they haven't traded for any pitching yet, But I don't
Speaker 1: know that there's a picture out there on the market
Speaker 1: that's going to put them over the top against the
Speaker 1: Houston Astros. We are Yankee fans, but you also don't
Speaker 1: want to bet with your heart. I think when it
Speaker 1: comes to the Houston Astros, just their pitching staff, it
Speaker 1: just gives them the edge in terms of Garret Cole
Speaker 1: and Justin Verlina. So I say, you look at some
Speaker 1: of the odds to win your division, and I was
Speaker 1: looking at the n L East. Think it's really interesting.
Speaker 1: So the least the favorite right now are the Bridges.
Speaker 1: They're in the first place. There are plus three hundred
Speaker 1: coming to the year. They might have six seventy now,
Speaker 1: pretty strong favorites. Six game lead in a six game lead.
Speaker 1: Phillies and Nats are both at plus eight fifty. And
Speaker 1: he loved there. I really liked the Nationals album were
Speaker 1: I never left. My prediction before the season was the
Speaker 1: Nationals in the Astros in the World Series. I think
Speaker 1: you might have had something similar. Think I think that
Speaker 1: with the Cars at the Cardinals. I like the National's
Speaker 1: winning the division. Yes, And you know what I was
Speaker 1: looking at this when they were like twelve games out
Speaker 1: and you were getting them at I think it was
Speaker 1: plus fourteen hundred to win the division. And I remember
Speaker 1: that I was talking about it downstairs. Dude. The Nationals
Speaker 1: are plus fourteen hundred right now. I mean they've they've
Speaker 1: cut it in more than half already, Greg, and that
Speaker 1: was in a month span. They still have two and
Speaker 1: a half more months here to make up six games.
Speaker 1: I might be I don't think I'm off base here,
Speaker 1: but didn't the Mets blow a six game lead heading
Speaker 1: into September one year back to the Mets. But it's
Speaker 1: it's happened. It's happened in baseball, It's happened in a month.
Speaker 1: They're telling me the Nationals can't make up six games
Speaker 1: and two and a half months. When you say there's
Speaker 1: a better chance of just not sneaking in on the
Speaker 1: wild card and then sure, But I mean in terms
Speaker 1: of the betting value right now, you're getting the Nationals
Speaker 1: at plus eight fifty to win the division. That's awesome, man,
Speaker 1: very much. I still have surely so Strasberg. They have Corbin.
Speaker 1: Their offense is really good. I love it. I loved
Speaker 1: it a month ago when they were plus fourteen hundred
Speaker 1: and they were twelve games out. I obviously loved it
Speaker 1: more than because of the value we're getting. But at
Speaker 1: plus eight fifty, I would throw a few out on it.
Speaker 1: Trying to find another one that's worth talking about in
Speaker 1: like the division odds here, why not the Cardinals at
Speaker 1: plus four twenty five. You just brought them up, like
Speaker 1: win the world? Serious? I think they suck. You think
Speaker 1: they suck. There's no turning it around for the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: They've been linked to training for pitching and they have
Speaker 1: They mean they need pitching either two games out and
Speaker 1: you're getting them at plus four fifties. Yeah, it feels
Speaker 1: like they suck the but look at this division. Nobody's
Speaker 1: technically out of it. What are the Reds? Reds are
Speaker 1: plus a thousand? Give me the Reds baby Pirates? Of
Speaker 1: plus four team, there are four and a half games out.
Speaker 1: There was only four and a half games out right,
Speaker 1: what are the parents two and a half? This division
Speaker 1: has the most parody of any place in baseball right now.
Speaker 1: I mean the last place teams only four and a
Speaker 1: half games out. Would you like to know how many
Speaker 1: games out the Baltimore Orioles are It would be thirty
Speaker 1: and a half. The last place team is still live
Speaker 1: in the Annal Central, every team is alive. So I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, what makes the most sense to me is, look,
Speaker 1: we like the Cardinals a lot coming into the year.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I leave with the Cardinals and you
Speaker 1: get some pretty good value. Right now, they're only two
Speaker 1: games out, and if they trade for some pitching they
Speaker 1: were linked to bum Garner at some point. If they
Speaker 1: trade for a bum Garner, a Bower, someone like that,
Speaker 1: a Stroman, that helps. I mean they need pitching. That's
Speaker 1: what it comes down to. Jack Flaherty hasn't lived up
Speaker 1: to expectations. Miles Mikolas has not lived up to expectations.
Speaker 1: In fact, Greg, yes, I'm still writing a baseball content
Speaker 1: on my Patreon ding. I did a m v P
Speaker 1: Most Valuable Players and Least Valuable Players at the half,
Speaker 1: both Miles Mikolas and Jack Flaherty landed on the l
Speaker 1: v P. Squad feel said that rightfully. So look at
Speaker 1: some m v P odds right now. The five I
Speaker 1: guess betting favorites Mike Trout. That's not surprise. He was
Speaker 1: the favorite coming of the year. Uh Dally May he
Speaker 1: was not even all on board start of the year.
Speaker 1: He's the second time right now on the board. Alex
Speaker 1: Bregman was plus a thousands, now plus that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Joey Gallow, you got sixty six to one to start
Speaker 1: the year. Um, he is now at plus fifteen hundred.
Speaker 1: He's not one in the m v P, don't worry
Speaker 1: about it. And Georgie Polanco was off the board. He's
Speaker 1: not plus fifteen hundred. Mike Chat's canna be your MVP
Speaker 1: in the A L The NL is really exciting way
Speaker 1: to just closs over the Yankee. Greg, what kind of
Speaker 1: fan are you? Why you're glossing over DJ L Mayhew?
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't even have a shot. It's not doesn't
Speaker 1: have a shot. He leaves the American League in hitting
Speaker 1: my shild. He said something really interesting during the All
Speaker 1: Star Game the other day, D Mayhew, if the season
Speaker 1: ended today, be the first player in baseball history to
Speaker 1: lead both the NL and in batting average. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's actually very surprising. It is surprising, all right. The
Speaker 1: n L m v P. I hope I got that right.
Speaker 1: That race is super exciting because did I pick that?
Speaker 1: I picked Linger in the MVP this year? I might
Speaker 1: have no, Greg, we both chose Anthony Brindo. Damn well,
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's improved there, so we're not really
Speaker 1: that far off. It's a two person race. Bellinger plus
Speaker 1: twenty hundred Christian Yelling at plus a thousand. These two
Speaker 1: guys are such heavy favorites. Plus one hundred for Cody
Speaker 1: Bellinger plus one sixty five navigation Yell A lot can
Speaker 1: happen and a half. I mean, ask Jesus Agilar about
Speaker 1: that last year, and of course this year. That's first
Speaker 1: half that be put together, but a lot can change
Speaker 1: and a half. So look, if you really like Freddy
Speaker 1: Free and if you like Anthony Rendon, there still is
Speaker 1: a chance. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but
Speaker 1: there's a chance that both Christian Yelloish and Cody Bellinger
Speaker 1: could regress a little bit. And you know, if the
Speaker 1: Nationals go on some crazy run and they win the
Speaker 1: National League East and it's all in the back of
Speaker 1: Anthony Rendon, I'm just saying at plus fifteen hundred, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't put a lot on it. What crazier things have
Speaker 1: happened in a half of baseball? If I had to choose,
Speaker 1: I think Bellinger probably wins, and I think it's a
Speaker 1: two person race. What crazier things have happened? Great? I
Speaker 1: agree Bellinger probably the favorite for me. Alsa Young Berlander
Speaker 1: versus Cole Verlander is the favorite year, follow by Luke Gildo,
Speaker 1: Chuck Morton, and Chris Sale. Yeah. If the Rays were better,
Speaker 1: man Charlie Morton would not be like and I'll say
Speaker 1: Young Serzer, Re Mueller, Luis Castillo, Jacob Dedram interesting that
Speaker 1: are still the favorite. Re you off the board start
Speaker 1: the season, take up to ground. Dropping from plus three
Speaker 1: fifty two plus se is just crazy. Let's come mats
Speaker 1: one game to night. Frank you got, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with Lancelin in the Rangers. Give me the dog. Here's
Speaker 1: the dog. I'll go the dog too. Why not at
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Speaker 1: me start with Arizona and with Kyler Murray in general.
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray first overall pick, second year in a row.
Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals take a quarterback in the first round.
Speaker 1: And I've heard a lot about Cliff Kingsbury and what
Speaker 1: he's going to do to the offense. But let me
Speaker 1: start with Kyler Murray. He just went I think my
Speaker 1: Scotts fish point. It was a little bit different, super
Speaker 1: flex kind of league. But how early are you comfortable
Speaker 1: taking Kyler Murray, Frank in terms of relatives to other
Speaker 1: quarterbacks or just in terms of ADP. What are you
Speaker 1: thinking here? I guess in terms of a DP right now,
Speaker 1: he's going to pick one oh three, which is what
Speaker 1: as the twelfth quarterback off the book. So he's being
Speaker 1: drives a QB one And as I said, sandwiched between
Speaker 1: golf and Cam Newton, as I said yesterday, that is
Speaker 1: ahead of Cam Newton. I could never take Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: ahead of Cam Newton. That's crazy. People are getting excited.
Speaker 1: People are getting excited about Kyler Murray. I mean that
Speaker 1: ability to rush that we saw in college. People are
Speaker 1: excited about that. I mean what we saw from Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson last year, that rushing floor that he provides. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just huge for fantasy football purposes, and Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: really is. I'm not gonna go as far as and
Speaker 1: say ten times the past on Lamar Jackson is, but
Speaker 1: he is a much more polished pass Lamar Jackson, real,
Speaker 1: Lamar Real. Lamar Jackson is the nineteenth quarterback off the Boody.
Speaker 1: But but in NFFC it's six point per passing touchdowns,
Speaker 1: So it's worth noting that Lamar Jackson is much more
Speaker 1: valuable in four point per passing touchdown leagues. And so
Speaker 1: is Kyler Murray. All right that matter, in a four
Speaker 1: point passing touchdown league, who would you take first, Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson or Kyler Murray? Kyla Murray because I think that,
Speaker 1: But he doesn't have the same rushing upside as Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: and his passing upside is much higher than But like
Speaker 1: like it, Lamar Jackson didn't get better in year two.
Speaker 1: You know he should, and I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people expect him to do that. Like Kyler Murray is
Speaker 1: already there in terms of being a pastor. Me, I
Speaker 1: guess yes he is. We hope theoretically yes, but he
Speaker 1: is a more He's a much more polished pastor, absolutely,
Speaker 1: especially inside the pocket, making plays out of the pockets. Lamar,
Speaker 1: He's gonna with his legs as Lamar Jackson is. He's
Speaker 1: not not nearly. Is that true? Yes, I mean Kyla
Speaker 1: Murray just ran for a thousand yards in college. Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson did the same thing. Kyler Murray makes place with
Speaker 1: his legs. Greg, Like, I don't know that he's going
Speaker 1: to rely on it as much as Lamar Jackson because
Speaker 1: he doesn't need to. He can make more throws at
Speaker 1: the NFL level, or at least that's what I expect
Speaker 1: in year one. But I think that he can make
Speaker 1: a lot of similar place. He's not gonna run as
Speaker 1: much as Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson at games where he
Speaker 1: ran twenty plus times last year, and I wouldn't expect
Speaker 1: that type of volume from Lamar Jackson either this season.
Speaker 1: I mean he'll probably get anywhere from I mean, a
Speaker 1: realistic projection is like ten to twelve carries a game
Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson. But Kyler Murray he's gonna run. Greg,
Speaker 1: He's gonna run. I'm confident in that. So you confident
Speaker 1: to take him as your QV one. He's going to
Speaker 1: well right now, So I feel a lot the same
Speaker 1: way I feel about Kyler Murray is very similar to
Speaker 1: how I feel about Cam Newton. Obviously for different reasons,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of risk and all the both.
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