1 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang on today's show. If the season ended today, 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: yes we're all familiar with that phrasing, the Cardinals would 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Of course, the season doesn't end today. 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: There are six weeks left. What are the chances the 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals do have postseason play in their future. We'll examine 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: the landscape in the NFC. But first and updates on 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray from the man himself. It's Cardinals Cover two, 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: episode three fifty seven, and it starts now. Welcome to 9 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: Cover two is presented by Hyunday, proud partner of the 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Easy Cardinals 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: dot com Slash podcasts. Murray rolls to the right, throws 13 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: near sighte of fence Bob Penis into the end zone 14 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: for the touchdown. Here's Craig Griele and Mike Direcki. It 15 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: may have been the most anticipated practice since his first practice. MJ, 16 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about Kyler Murray on the practice field here 17 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: on this Tuesday, which is unusual to begin with more 18 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: on then in the moment, but because of what happened 19 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: on Thursday and that reported ac joints brain that he's suffered. 20 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: According to Ian Rappaport, the Cardinals really having come out 21 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: and said exactly what happened. But we do know Carlos 22 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: Dunlap landed on Murray and that kind of crunched him 23 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: between the ground and Dunlap. So, yes, the shoulder was 24 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: an issue on Thursday night football. How would it affect 25 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: Murray this week? That's what we want to know. That's 26 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: what the Bird gang wants to know. Well here from 27 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: Murray quote, I feel fine, I feel good end quotes. 28 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: So we'll see again it's Tuesday game on Sunday. But 29 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: the fact that he was on the practice field today, 30 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: although during the open portion of practice he was working 31 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: on his own on this side. So again we don't 32 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: know exactly what happened the rest of practice, but good 33 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: to see number one on the field period. Yeah. And 34 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, I you know, last week we got a 35 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: report that it was an ac joint and he was, 36 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: you know, scheduled to play, and you know it's early 37 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: in the week, and one thing when you were out 38 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: there for the open portion or practice is how much 39 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: warm up he does throwing in the nets and then 40 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 1: you know Cliff's working with him and you know, they 41 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: have some certain drills and they got the you know, 42 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: he's you know, sometimes he's chopping his feet and he's 43 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: got to throw on the run. But you know, I 44 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: don't remember Carson Palmer doing this, and you see it 45 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: from Tom Brady. But before Murray goes on the field, 46 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: he's really you know, because the next throw he makes 47 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: is going to be in the game. I mean, I 48 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: know Dave Pash has mentioned a lot of week he 49 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: just he's really firing that ball on the sidelines to 50 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: kind of get into rhythm. When he steps on the field, 51 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: that's his next pass. Yeah, Typically sometimes that quarterback will 52 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: just from the sideline to the huddle and go. Yet Murray, 53 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: especially if there's a TV time out, he's getting someone, Hey, 54 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: let me throw the ball a couple of times and 55 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: it's real quick, rapid fire, you know, half a dozen throws. 56 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: And he was asked about that earlier today, and in 57 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: fact it was Kylo Dguard, our colleague on asy Cardinals 58 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: dot com, and Murray explained, quote, I like to warm 59 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: it up, referring to his arm and shoulder every time 60 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: regardless if it's before practice or before a game or 61 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: before a possession. So that's just something that he has done, 62 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: that's part of his routine. And it is a little 63 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: unusual because you think, you know, hey, you know, you 64 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: only have somebody throws in that shoulder. But for Murray, 65 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: especially if it's something that he's been doing at such 66 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: a young age, it's used to that talking about his 67 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: shoulder his arm to where it's not an additional strain. 68 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: It's just part of how he warms up to get 69 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: that arm, that shoulder ready for that particular play, that 70 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: particular possession. You know, something we haven't touched on yet, 71 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: but there's a reason why the offseason he bolt up 72 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: upper body so he can withstand it. And knowing last year, 73 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: you know, he took forty eight sacks. A lot we're 74 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: on him, but just having that upper body strength and 75 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: I think he's really got good size when it comes 76 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: to his arms and you know his bicep and tricep. 77 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: So I'm glad he did that because he has been 78 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: hitting he and he actually a minute today. It's been 79 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: the last couple of games, hasn't been just the last game. Yeah, 80 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: And I think this is something that. Look, it's going 81 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: to be a storyline that will follow all week long 82 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: because it's the quarterback, it's Kyler Murray. This team will 83 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: go as far as he takes it, as far as 84 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: the offense, the entire team overall. He did acknowledge that 85 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: he's limiting his throws this week to take care of 86 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: my shoulder and his words, so he will show up 87 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: on the injury report. The first official injury report comes 88 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: out tomorrow. On Wednesday, Today was kind of more of 89 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: a bonus day, and I don't even know if you 90 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: want to call it a bonus day, MJ. But typically 91 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: on Tuesdays there is not a practice. This has always 92 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: been the players day off. A little bit different here 93 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty because of COVID nineteen, but because of 94 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving on Thursday, head coach Cliff Kingsbury has altered the schedule. 95 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: So now they'll go Tuesday, Wednesday off, Thursday, practice Friday 96 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: before boarding a plane to head to New England where 97 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: they'll play the Patriots on Sunday. So that is why 98 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: on a Tuesday, it's always about you know, what still 99 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: happened on a Sunday. Yet we're turning the page a 100 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: little bit sooner this week because of the altered practice schedule, 101 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: and of course because this team had the weekend off 102 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: having played on Thursday night football. And I'm glad there 103 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: on the practice field today because even though there was 104 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: a report that's an ec joint, he should be able 105 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: to play. We know, more clarification by him obviously addressed 106 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: in the media, and listen, there's no doubt in my 107 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: mind he's going to be out there on Sunday. Yeah, 108 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it at all, unless, of course, 109 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, he gets hits again. I don't even know 110 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: about a setback, and my concern would be if he 111 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: hit gets hit again, so same spot. Yeah, and and 112 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 1: it's all of a sudden now it becomes a bother 113 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: and it affects you know, what Kingsbury wants to do 114 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: as far as pass plays or specific run plays because 115 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: only five carries in that Thursday night contest, and it 116 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: was a large part because of that hit. You don't 117 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: want Murray to take another hit in that contest. And Kingsbury, 118 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: you know, he's been He's been asked the last couple 119 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: of days, including on ninety eight seven with Burns and 120 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: Gamble just about you know, why were you more conservative 121 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: or did you had you know, maybe you had to 122 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: lessen your playbook because of obviously you didn't want to 123 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: put him in in you know, arms way, And he said, yeah, 124 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: a lot of our play calling after they hit it 125 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: had a change, and clearly they didn't want to him 126 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: running the football. But we know when he runs that 127 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: ball seven or eight nine times, it's a big difference 128 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: when it comes to the offense as a whole, and 129 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: then when you get production out of Kenyan Drake and 130 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds and you know, the play action and that's 131 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: what makes him dynamic. He is that dual threat. But 132 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: we all know he's not in RG three. He's not 133 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson where he's gonna put himself as in arms away. 134 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: But there's gonna be some time where he's gonna take 135 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: some hits and I think we're seeing that over the 136 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. It's funny, even though they only 137 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: rushed for fifty seven yards and that was a season 138 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: low by far, this Cardinals team will go into Week 139 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: twelve with the second best rushing offense in terms of 140 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: yards per game and number one in yards per carry 141 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray leading all ball carriers with six point 142 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: seven yards every time he touches the football. So yes, 143 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: you want to be able to run the football, especially 144 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: because well that air attack and with DeAndre Hopkins, Larry Fitzgerald, 145 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, Andy, Isabella Dan Arnold, Max Williams, if the 146 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: list goes on and on. But in order to pass 147 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: the ball, you have to have somewhat of a threat 148 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: of a running game, and the Cardinals did not have 149 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: that in that second meeting against the Seahawks. No, and listen, 150 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: we've been very complimentary of the offensive line. I mean, 151 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: you're not going to roll sink guys the entire season. 152 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: But I think when they go back to the drawing 153 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,559 Speaker 1: board in the fact that he did get hit seven times, 154 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: or in the first game he didn't get hit, you know, 155 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: Sean Coogler is going to challenge his guys. I mean, 156 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: they put out some bad film there, but again, body 157 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: of work. Still averaging over five yards of carry's still 158 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: averaging one one hundred and fifty five or sixty yards 159 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: a game on the ground, and that's who they are. 160 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: And we know that sets that the past, but you 161 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: know it's not going to be every week you're not 162 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: going to dominate. They get paid too, But I do 163 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: think we're going to see a different offensive line in 164 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: New England. A couple of other notes concerning the Cardinals 165 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: with respect to today's practice and perhaps some good news 166 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: moving forward, especially on the defensive side of the ball. 167 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: The club did announce that they had designated defensive lineman 168 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: Zach Allen to return from the injured reserve list. That 169 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: means he's got a twenty one day window here in 170 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: which he can practice and then the evaluated before decision 171 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: has to be made on whether or not to activate 172 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: him to the fifty three man roster. Now he can 173 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: be activated as soon as this week, as we saw 174 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: with j R. Sweezy when he was designated to return 175 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: that same week he played. Now Richard Lawrence has also 176 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: been designated to return. He has yet to be activated. 177 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: This will be another week of practice for him. And 178 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: we talk about that defensive line, the top five on 179 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: IR but perhaps Alan coming back, perhaps Lawrence coming back. 180 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: Now they don't have the experience or the resume of 181 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: a Corey Peters who's done for the season or Jordan 182 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: Phillips who just went on injured reserve and will be 183 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: a while before we see him again because of a 184 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: hampshiing injury. Yet there are perhaps signs of encouraging signs 185 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: of some help along that defensive front. Yeah, I really 186 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: like this new IR. You know, obviously it's for COVID, 187 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: but you know, you usually got to make a decision. 188 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: They would designate one or two players and then a 189 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: lot of times they are out six to eight weeks. Here, 190 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: I really like this. Maybe it's something we're gonna see 191 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: in the future. Obviously you don't want to see teams 192 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: stash players, but the fact that they're getting Zach Allen 193 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: back and it's just a matter of time and then 194 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: Pecco he's gonna have to play this week. I mean, 195 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: he's a guy that's been a fifteen year vet. Obviously, 196 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: you know, he's got intel with Vans and Cincinnati and Denver, 197 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: and you know, he's I don't know if he's gonna 198 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: play forty snaps, but he's definitely gonna be I believe, 199 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: unless you know, we hear stuff from Vans later in 200 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: the day or later in the week, he's gonna have 201 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: to be active. They need bodies right now. Yeah, I 202 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: think that's the key word, right there is depth. Just 203 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: put someone there, you know, to to occupy space. Now, 204 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: I think Pecco can be more than that because he's 205 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: been there and done that. Yes, and then we'll see 206 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: what happens as that snap count increases, as he gets 207 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: one more familiar with the defense and then two obviously 208 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: getting into football shape. He will turn thirty six later 209 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: this week. This is his fifteenth NFL season. Also here 210 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: as we put a bow on our discussion yesterday about 211 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons. He was made available to the media earlier today, 212 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: and it was interesting to hear him acknowledge, Yes, there 213 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: was frustration earlier this season because he wasn't playing. And 214 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: then he had this line quote, it was really hard. 215 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: I've always been the star guy. I'm not going to lie. 216 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: It was pretty rough for me. Quote honest assessment of 217 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: where he was in his first seven games. Dare I 218 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: say eight games of his NFL career. Yeah, And it's 219 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: been night and day since the you know, the first 220 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: month of the season, and he could just see the 221 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: upside and he used the word slow play. And I 222 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: give Vans in the coaching staff because that was the 223 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: plan from day one. I know the fan base wanted 224 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: to see their you know, number eight overall pick. But 225 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: he was behind Campbell and he was behind Hicks, and 226 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: the teams are trying to win football games by also 227 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: developing him. And you know, his snapcount's gone up, and 228 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, he was saying after games, he you know, 229 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: he'd go home and say, I really didn't do anything. 230 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: I want to contribute. And you know, but we know 231 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: that Vance has been Um, you know, he told us 232 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: after the bye week he came back refreshed, and he 233 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: came back, you know, excite about and in one play 234 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: can change your year confidence level, and that was the 235 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: pick against Russell Wilson. So I think I think that 236 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: he's training in the right direction. Um, it wouldn't surprise him. 237 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: Maybe he gets more playing time because Campbell's been you know, 238 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: kind of hit and missed with the injury and some mistackles. 239 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he played much better than the early part 240 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: of the season, So I understand why they wouldn't put 241 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: him in there. But as we've mentioned on different forms, 242 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: you give this guy an entire offseason, you give him 243 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: a you know, a training camp in a preseason, he 244 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: will be a three down linebacker. He will be starting 245 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals next year. Yeah, he called that interception 246 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: quote a confidence booster, and then kind of had to 247 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: remind himself throughout the season that hey, I was here, 248 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: meaning being drafted for a reason. So there was a 249 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: lot of deep thought and then of course relying on 250 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: family members and close friends to kind of get him 251 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: through this. And here he is on the other side 252 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: of all that, and you're looking at him not only 253 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: increasing his snap count but having a role throughout the game, 254 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: especially on a defense that I think right now could 255 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: really use a shot in the arm by the name 256 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: of isaais. Yeah, and use some athleticism and speed and 257 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, physicality, and you know he's playing on special teams. 258 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: I mean nothing against Hicks and Campbell, but you're talking 259 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: about a young Stallion right here, who's obviously, you know, 260 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: much younger and more athletic. Even though those guys are 261 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: are veteran guys and they can get it done with 262 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: savvy and technique. But I think it's good to have 263 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: some youth out there, you know, besides Buddha Baker and 264 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: some other guys, because they bring energy to the team 265 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: versus just friend lying on your veteran players. A reminder 266 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: bird Gang. Make sure you update to the latest version 267 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: of the Cardinals mobile app today. The update features an 268 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: all new redesign home screen experience. Visit easy Cardinals dot 269 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: com slash app for more. As we continue here on 270 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: this Tuesday Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday, proud partner 271 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, and as promised MJ we kind 272 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: of alluded to this late last week, doing a big 273 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: picture not only on the division, but the entire NFC 274 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: after eleven weeks eleven games for many teams. Cardinals obviously 275 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: was just the ten games played so far. And well, 276 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: let's just go to what happened most recently. And I 277 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: can't tell you I was really really hoping the Tampa 278 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers and Tom Brady would have pulled that one 279 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: out last night on Monday Night Football to help just 280 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: a little bit the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, I was rooting 281 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: for the Buccaneers, but you gotta give credits to the Rams. 282 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean, as I mentioned yesterday, I think they're the 283 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: most complete team in the NFC West. And and you know, 284 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: to go on the road, and you know all the 285 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: hype about Tom Brady and he threw some interceptions, but 286 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: I was a little surprised that the Buccaneers defense didn't 287 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: step up and force some turnovers in that game. Twenty seven, 288 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: twenty four, the Rams win on Monday Night Football, their 289 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: final trip to the East Coast and on there and 290 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: that was a lot of the discussion on how they 291 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: lamented having to go back not only to the state 292 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: of Florida for the second time, but just having to 293 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: travel across the country. Yet it did not look like 294 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: that plane ride did them any harm at all. The 295 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: offense looked good and then the defense. I just thought, 296 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: as you talked about it, a complete team, but certainly 297 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: they were able to harass Tom Brady only one sack, 298 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: five quarterback hits, but he was under a lot of 299 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: pressure of that entire ballgame. Talking about Brady. Yeah, and 300 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, we knew just based on Carson Palmer with 301 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: Bruce Arians it was going to take a half a season. 302 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: But you know, they got the weapons. I mean, Chris 303 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: Goodawin's health, he's wearing a brace on his finger. Mike Evans, 304 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: that was a great matchup him and going toe to 305 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: toe with Jalen Ramsey. But you would think, you know, 306 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: Gronk and then you know, the Bruce said that he 307 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: made it his bad decision when they played the Saints. 308 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: He abandoned the run too early, and so last night 309 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: they wanted the run to football and then Leonard Fournette, 310 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: he had a couple different drops. But you know, Ronald Jones, 311 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: but give credit to Jared Goff and Sean McVay because 312 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: between Cooper Cup and Robert woods Man, they couldn't stop 313 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: those guys. Cup one hundred and forty five yards receiving, 314 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: Woods one hundred thirty yards receiving and a touchdown. Golf 315 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: overall thirty nine of fifty one. He dropped back fifty 316 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: one times for three hundred and sixty plus yards and 317 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: three touchdowns. Again, the difference in this contest. Matt Gay 318 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: a forty yard field goal with two thirty six left, 319 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: and then the win sealed by safety Jordan Fuller, who 320 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: picked off Tom Brady with a minute fifty seven to go. 321 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: The Rams now seven and three, one and one and 322 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: the division, and that win MJ vaulted the Rams to 323 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: first place in the division and more importantly for them, 324 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: the two seed in the NFC. We talked about the 325 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: Rams a couple of weeks back and yeah, they were 326 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: four and oh against the NFC East, But who did 327 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: they play? Their only real win was against the Chicago Bears, 328 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: and we know what's happened with the Bears thus far, 329 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of questions. Now all of 330 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: a sudden, you might want to put the Rams next 331 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: to the Saints, next to the Packers, and yeah, even 332 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: though they lost last night, right next to the Buccaneers. Yeah, 333 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: right now, you know between the Saints eight and two, 334 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: the ramzern second at seven and three, Green Base seven 335 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: and three. Of course you got Philadelphia in there, you know. 336 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: You just look at the rams remaining schedule. Okay, so 337 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: Deldo host San Francisco, they'll play at Arizona. Looks like 338 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: they'll host New England the Jets, and then they have 339 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: at Seattle and then the Cardinals. When you look at 340 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: the Seahawks schedule, much more accommodating. They're at Philadelphia, they 341 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: host the Giants, they host the Jets, they quoted Washington, 342 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: and then they play the Rams in the forty nine 343 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: ers to finish the season. So I just think Seattle's 344 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: got an easier road. But at some point, you know, 345 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: right now, as you point out the Rams and the 346 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: conference or seven and one. Yeah, seven of their seven 347 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: wins all coming within the NFC. And then you looked 348 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: at that Rams schedule, according to the metrics, the third 349 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: most difficult schedule as far as the NFC is concerned. 350 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: And well, you touched on the Seahawks right now, second 351 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: place in the division. They are the fifth seed in 352 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: the NFC, and of course they enjoyed their many bye 353 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: week after being in the Cardinals twenty eight to twenty one. 354 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson still has not lost three games in a row. 355 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: And it's more about the defense with Seattle right now, 356 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: we'll get to the injury note in a significant injury 357 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: note with regard to tight end greg Olsen, but the 358 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: addition of Carlo's dunlap. What his presence and sometimes that's 359 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: all it is his presence. He has three and a 360 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: half sacks in three games, but the Seahawks as a 361 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: team thirteen sacks since his arrival. Wow, And you know, 362 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: I've followed him from Afar, but I don't think he 363 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he obviously's motivated to get out of Cincinnati. 364 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: He pretty much forced his way out there. But I 365 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: was surprised that he was so effective in that Cardinal game, 366 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: and I think we all look at that when they're 367 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: a Russian three and he sacked Murray on four down. 368 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: But you know, again, I think he's motivated because he 369 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: got out of Cincinnati. A great addition there. We didn't 370 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: really see a lot of snacks Harrison and we know 371 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams, guys that didn't play in the first game, 372 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: but Carlos Dunlop, I mean I didn't. I mean again, 373 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: I think it's a good pickup. But I was surprised 374 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: that he was dominating like he was in the Cardinals game. Yeah, 375 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: it is a little bit of rise, considering he doesn't 376 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: have the resume of like an Aaron Donald that could 377 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 1: lift up the entire defense. But sometimes at all it 378 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: is is just the spark, if you will. And you 379 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: talked about exactly wanting to get out of Cincinnati and 380 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden feeling rejuvenated. The fact that now, 381 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you were, you know, on a 382 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: last place team and then you get promoted, if you will, 383 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: to not only a first place team at the time, 384 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: but now all of a sudden, right in the middle 385 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: of the playoff picts. Yeah, I mean it couldn't worked 386 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: out better for him, and you know, usually you know, 387 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: you could just see that there was a lot of tension. 388 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: He put his Hell's up for sale and he really 389 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: forced his way out, and Mike Brown, in fairness to him, 390 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: sometimes he doesn't buckle. But at this point un time, 391 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: I think it was best for their team. You mentioned Snax. 392 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: Harrison officially signed to the active roster yesterday as the 393 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: Seahawks made a number of roster moves, including placing Greg 394 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: Olson on injured reserve. He's expected miss four to six 395 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: weeks with a left foot injury. That four to six 396 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: week time table, that's either at the end of the 397 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: season potentially of the playoffs. It does not look good 398 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: for him. Olsen, though, went to social media, tweeting quote, 399 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: I refuse to allow this to be my final moment. 400 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: I will find a way to finish on my feet 401 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: and tweets because he's contemplated retirement. He's got a job 402 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: in the broadcast booth when he does step away, and 403 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: this was his first season, or is his first season 404 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: with the Seahawks. But it doesn't sound like he wants 405 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: to go out like this. No, that's gonna be difficult 406 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: because you know, the last couple of years, he's been 407 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: you know, a guy. Even on a bye week, he 408 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: was doing NFL games for Fox, and they're they always 409 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: try to get players that just recently retire because they're 410 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: relevant and but plant or fasciitis or whatever they're gonna 411 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: call it, that that that's very painful. Now, clearly, you 412 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: know they added him to be a safety net to 413 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: obviously compliment their their tight end position. But you know, 414 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: I think they're looking for him playing in the postseason 415 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: because he is consistent, he can block, and he's a 416 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: guy that you know if you throw the ball to 417 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: him and on a third down and he's gonna catch it. 418 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: There is some good news with respect to the injury 419 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: fronts on the Seahawks. Running Back Chris Carson may be 420 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: back this week, and we know what the return of 421 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: Carlos Hide meant to that Seahawks rushing attack. Now, if 422 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,719 Speaker 1: you have a balanced one two punch, you don't have 423 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: to have Wilson running as a designed run or scrambling 424 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: and running out of the pocket, because well before last 425 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: week he was there leading running back. Yeah, to me, 426 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: gives you a nice one two punch. I've always been 427 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: a Carlos Hyde fan. He was in Houston last year. 428 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: I like the way he runs. That was a good 429 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: free agent signing. Rashad Penny is still on. I don't 430 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: know if he's on an irpup at this point, but 431 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: he's not ready to play. But that gives him a 432 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: you know, to where they can get a lead in 433 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: the game and then they don't have to force throw 434 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: in the football every time, even though you know if 435 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: they're falling behind, they're gonna have to. But to me 436 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: that this slows the game down for the Seahawks if 437 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: you get that one two punch where you don't have 438 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: to throw at forty five times a game. Now, the 439 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: last team and the division, the forty nine Ers at 440 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: four and six. They did not play this past weekend. 441 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: They enjoyed their bye week, and we touched on what 442 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: head coach Kyle Shanahan had to say to the media. 443 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: Quote they need some rest, they need to get away 444 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: end quote with respect to his team. The last time 445 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: we saw the forty nine Ers on the field, they 446 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: were losing at the Saints twenty seven thirteen. They've lost 447 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: three straight games. They'll have to be on the road 448 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: where they hope to end their losing street. But they 449 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: traveled to the Rams this week, and then you look 450 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: at what's ahead for them. I mean, are they still 451 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: in the division race? Can they still make a push 452 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: for the playoffs? Home to the Bills, home to Washington 453 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: at the Cowboys. That's after this week at the Rams, 454 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: you steal one on the road at the Rams. All 455 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're at five and six, Home to 456 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: the Bills, home to Washington at the Cowboys. You know, 457 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: I know some people have been throwing dirt on the 458 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: forty nine ers for a while now, and then of 459 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: course removing that dirt and then putting the dirt back 460 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: on them. I don't know what to make of the 461 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: forty nine ers right well, I just think you're heading 462 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: to week twelve and you only have four wins. It's 463 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: and again they've been decimated with injuries. We'll find out 464 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: more about Garoppolo, George Kittle, you know. But they couldn't 465 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: play the spoiler role. I mean, we know that Kyle 466 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: Shanahan is a very effective play caller. Did they go 467 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: with Nick Mullins? So? I mean, I don't think they're 468 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 1: going to mail it in, But I just think when 469 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 1: you're going into Week twelve and you only have four wins. 470 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be difficult, even if they want 471 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 1: a couple of games. Just as selfish the season, they 472 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: are expected to get healthier. Tevin Coleman, Raheem Mostert, Deebo 473 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: Samuel and Richard Sherman all on track to return this week. 474 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: The problem though, right now for the forty nine ers 475 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: are eight excuse me nine players on the reserve COVID 476 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: nineteen list, including starting left tackle Trent Williams. He tested 477 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: positive for COVID nineteen last week. This is the second 478 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: time he's landed on the reserve COVID nineteen list, and 479 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: now eight of his teammates on it as well, And 480 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: that's something that you can't plan for or try to 481 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: game play against. Now. And Brandon and Iuk, he's on 482 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: he's on the COVID play you know, COVID lists right now. 483 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's just been one of those kind of seasons. 484 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 1: And you know, when you make a run like they 485 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: did last year, and you know, you know, the Cardinals 486 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: beating them in Week one. It's only one game, but 487 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: I thought the Cardinals set the tone basically for the 488 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: season going on in the road and beating a team 489 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,479 Speaker 1: that represented the conference last year. So you know, we 490 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: know that it's about nutrition and staying healthy, and I 491 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: think they'll bounce back next year. Rams Seahawks Cardinals forty 492 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: nine ers. That as a look at the NFC West. 493 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: Now with respect to how this plays out within the 494 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: entire conference, here as we talk about now the playoff picture, 495 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: and I think, yeah, we've kind of had some fun 496 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: over the past couple of weeks when we hey, if 497 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: the season ended today, well, folks, if the season ended today, 498 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals are a playoff team. They are the 499 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: seven seed, but they are in the playoffs because there 500 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: is one extra playoff team in each conference. There could 501 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: be two, but that's something that still needs to be 502 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: ironed out between the league and the players association. But 503 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: I know both Chase Edmonds and Jordan Hicks were asked 504 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: about this yesterday with respect to playing meaningful football in 505 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: November and December, both said that they were excited, yet 506 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: they each to a certain extent, had the same phrasing. 507 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: Edmunds quote, you can't look ahead, Hicks quote, can't afford 508 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: to look ahead? Well, players can't, MJ. But we can, 509 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: and that's exactly what we're gonna do here on this 510 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday, probably partner 511 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, because it is now a six 512 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: game sprint to the finish line. The Cardinals at six 513 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: and four right there in the pack, but they are 514 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: near the end of the pack and certainly don't want 515 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: to fall any further off the pace. Yeah, that's why 516 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: that loss the Seahawks was. It was, you know, at 517 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: that point, the Cardinals were you know, leading to a 518 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: division and you know, because they had the time breaker 519 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: against Seattle and weeks seven. But you go from a 520 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: two seat or a three seat all of a sudden 521 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: to a seven seat and you know, arians always told 522 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: us you can go from the penthouse to the outhouse 523 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: real quick. Yes, you use a different word, that is true. 524 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals instead of potentially hosting a first round playoff game now, 525 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: which I thought was far fetched, I mean, you know, 526 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: Seattle just based on the way they started the season, 527 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: now clearly they've you know, we know, Russell Wilson hasn't 528 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: lost stree in a row, but they did lose three 529 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: out of four, so all of a sudden, it opened 530 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: the door, and the fact that the Cardinals were able 531 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: to beat him in Week seven, I just that de 532 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: game just sticks out to me because you could have 533 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: controlled your own desk, and we're talking about a seven 534 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: win team, and then you start looking inside the division, 535 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: they would have a very good record. Yeah, now the 536 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals would have to go on the road, and right 537 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: now they would travel to LA to play the Rams. 538 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: Here is how the NFC sets up right now as 539 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: we speak, heading into Week twelve, Saints, Rams, Packers, Eagles, 540 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: because of course the NFC East needs to be represented Seahawks, 541 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: Buccaneers and Cardinals. And then I just kind of went 542 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: further down the road because I like where the Cardinals are. 543 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: And yes, we can lament the loss of the Seahawks 544 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: to Detroit to Miami. But if one of these teams 545 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: is going to knock the Cardinals out of the playoff picture, 546 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: that's I think is the interesting discussion here. Yes, you'd 547 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: like to see the Cardinals move up, maybe into the 548 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: two or three spots and host a first round playoff game, 549 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: But if your goal is to make the playoffs and 550 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: just be invited to the dance, Remember this team has 551 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: not received an invitation since twenty fifteen. So that goal 552 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: from year one to year two under Kingsbury and Kyler 553 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: Murray is to make that leap forward and getting into 554 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: the playoffs, no matter how many wins it takes, would 555 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: be that leap forward. So if you're the Cardinals and 556 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: you're looking over the shoulder, you've got the Bears, Vikings 557 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: Lions forty nine ers, and I included the Panthers at 558 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: four and seven. They only have five games left on 559 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: their schedule, but everyone else Bears, Vikings Lions forty nine 560 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: ers with six games left. Of those four teams and 561 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: five if you want to include the Panthers, who should 562 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: we say the Cardinals need to be most aware of 563 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: and maybe not the team and the coaching staff, but 564 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: the bird gang out there. As far as what could 565 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: be the team to jump ahead of the Cardinals, well, 566 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: the Bears got a situation with the quarterback spot, you know, 567 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,479 Speaker 1: so you know they have a really good defense and 568 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: that's the reason why you know they're five and five. 569 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: You know, Minnesota disappointing loss of the Cowboys, you know 570 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: they were they were getting back on track. I I'm 571 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: a big Mike Zimmer fan. As teams get better throughout 572 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: the season. They obviously rely on the running game and 573 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: then Adam Thielan and Kirk Cousins. But you know, defensively 574 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: that that was a disappointing loss because they they could 575 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: have been five and five and that would be the 576 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: team that I'm most concerned with. Again, Chicago really good defense, 577 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: but I don't know if they can score enough points. Detroit, 578 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they're three and five in the conference, they're 579 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: four and six. I mean, it just seems like the 580 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: same old, same old for the Detroit So I would 581 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: think Minnesota would be the biggest threat. Now we'll just 582 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: have to wait and see with the Bears, you know, 583 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: with the quarterback situation. But I think when you have 584 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: a really good defense like they do, it's going to 585 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: keep them in a lot of games. So the Bears 586 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: do have a you know, a couple of division games 587 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: coming up, and I think they will tell a lot. 588 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: They got to play the Packers twice. Yeah, that's the 589 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: thing with the Bears. You brought up an interesting point, 590 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: and that is who's the quarterback? Who do they go 591 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: forward with? Nick Foles Mitchell Trubisky And they're on a 592 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: four game losing trailer, Berry. Okay, hey, hey, all hands 593 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: on deck at whatever's behind door number three, if you will, 594 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: trying to figure out who to put under center for Chicago. 595 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 1: But this was a team that I don't know how 596 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: many people really bought into even when they got off 597 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: to such a hot start, and now because they've foreign Row, 598 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: they might just be an afterthought even though they are 599 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: sitting at number eight. But their next six games, or 600 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: their final six games, and it's book ended by games 601 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: against the Packers. They go at green Bay home to 602 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: the Lions, home to the Texans, at Minnesota, at Jacksonville 603 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: home to the Packers. So that's a tough three game 604 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: stretch to close the season, with two on the road, 605 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: including a trip to Florida, and then of course closing 606 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: out with the Packers. Now that green Bay game in 607 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: week seventeen doesn't mean as much to green Bay at 608 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: that point. Who knows. That's what you always worry about 609 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: on that final game of the regular season. But that's 610 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: a tough stretch, especially when you're talking about two games 611 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: against the Packers, who right now sit at the three 612 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: seed in the NFC. Yeah, and if you look at Minnesota, 613 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: they had the Panthers at home, Jacksonville at home, then 614 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: they go to Tampa, then they host Chicago, and then 615 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: I got to play the Saints. That's a tough game 616 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: and you're trying to clinch, and then they finish out 617 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: with the Lions. So Minnesota to me, would be the 618 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: biggest right as of today. I'd feel a little bit 619 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: more concerned about the Vikings if they had beaten the 620 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: Cowboys and all of a sudden you're at five and five. 621 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: I think that will be one of those games that 622 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,719 Speaker 1: if you're a Minnesota fan you point to and say 623 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: what could have been, especially if you fall a game 624 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: out of the playoff picture. Well, and if the Bears, 625 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: you know, depending on the remaining schedule obviously got division games. 626 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: I think once you get to seven eight losses, I 627 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: think you're out. I think nine and seven could get 628 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: you in this year. But you know, you start looking 629 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: at Chicago five and five, Minnesota, I mean they can't 630 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: afford anymore law. I mean they if they get to 631 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: eight losses, I think that's going to be difficult to 632 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: get in. So we just need to look at it. 633 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: And I'm just excluding Detroit there. But I do think Minnesota, 634 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: just just the way they run the football. Zimmer's a 635 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: defensive minded head coach. And Kirk Cousins, you know, even 636 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: though he's probably not going to get the credit, he's 637 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: he's played well and they lose, you know, and still 638 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: Adam Thieland's playing really well. Kyle Rudolph, and they run 639 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: the football. And Gary Kubiak's a really good play caller, 640 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: and I think they're benefiting from him. Yeah, that Vikings team, 641 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: I think if you're talking about of those five that 642 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: we talk about, the Bears, Vikings Lines, forty nine Ers, 643 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: and Panthers, when it comes to offense and defense, certainly 644 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: a team to be concerned about it. And maybe one 645 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: of those teams that you pull back and say, all right, 646 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: give me a team in the NFC that's disappointed you 647 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: or made you scratch your head more times than not. 648 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: And I think it would be the Vikings, especially when 649 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: they're on that three game losing streak, because they have 650 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: the talent to certainly be in that conversation, if not 651 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: maybe a top four team in the NFC as opposed 652 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: to right now being on the outside looking in. Yeah, 653 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: and to me, if you beat the Cowboys, they would 654 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: have been sitting five and five and it had some momentum. 655 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: You know, again, that's disappointing loss. You know, Dallas obviously 656 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: they've been on the shortened the stick. But you get 657 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: Annie Dalton back and you run the football. You know, 658 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's got to win some games down the stretch, 659 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: considering that Philadelphia is right now three six and one. Now, 660 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: I heard you mention the Lions and kind of toss 661 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: them to the side a little bit, and I don't 662 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 1: blame you to that extent. They've got the Texans road 663 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: trip to Chicago Packers, another road trip to Tennessee Buccaneers 664 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: and Vikings. So it's not an easy stretch at all. 665 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: The one thing though, that fans need to be a 666 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: little bit literally with the Lions if they can get 667 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: things back on track, and I don't even know if 668 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: they were ever on track this season. They do have 669 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: the tiebreaker over the Cardinals, and that's the one thing 670 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: that you have to put a little asterisk next to 671 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: when you're talking about the Lions. Into a certain extent, 672 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: the Panthers, although with seven losses, can you run the 673 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: table and get to nine wins? I mean they have 674 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: to go on a five game winning streak. To close 675 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: out the season. They just beat Detroit, so that would 676 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: make it a six game winning streak to end twenty twenty, 677 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: and that would put them at nine and seven. They 678 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: too wouldn't also have the tiebreaker over the Cardinals. Yeah so, 679 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: but again, if you start to get to seven eight losses, 680 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna be on the outside looking at it. 681 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: But I do think nine and seven could be the 682 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 1: seventh season. You know, you look at Arizona schedule. UM, 683 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: obviously New England, then they come back and they play 684 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: the Rams, and then the Giants, and then the Eagles, 685 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: and then San Francisco, which hopefully they can sweep them, 686 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 1: and then the Rams. That that could come down. If 687 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: the Rams are you know, I have a strangle hold 688 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: on the division, then all of a sudden, you're you're 689 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: basically jockey in for a position with the Seahawks. So 690 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, you look at some of these um percentages. 691 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 1: When it comes to the Cardinals going into the last 692 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: month of or last six games of the season, you know, 693 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: they're they're winning projective team percentage by week seventy two 694 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: percent against the Patriots, fifty five percent against the Rams, 695 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: sixty four percent against the Giants and the Eagles and 696 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: then forty five percent. So on paper, the Cardinals have 697 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: a favorable schedule. It's just you still haven't played the 698 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: Rams twice. But you do get the Niners and we'll 699 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: see wherever they are, and then you get the Eagles 700 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,720 Speaker 1: and Giants, and to me, those are very winnable games, 701 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: the contest against the Patriots, Giants and Eagles, if you're 702 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: being realistic, and I know no player likes to say it, 703 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: but as we refer to it earlier here, we can 704 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: as fans and media, you can't afford to lose any 705 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: one of those three games. I think you have to 706 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: finish out four and two, maybe even five and one, 707 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: to really feel comfortable if this is going to if 708 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: this is going to be the year that you end 709 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: that postseason drought. You beat the Patriots, you beat the Giants, 710 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 1: you beat the Eagles, you win protect home turf against 711 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, and you split against the Rams. 712 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: I mean, right there, if that's the five and one, 713 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: finish four and two, you still have ten wins, and 714 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: any other year that might be enough. But I certainly 715 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: would be happy if this team could get to ten wins, 716 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: because you'd had five wins and the first half of 717 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: the season five wins. In the second half of the season, 718 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,399 Speaker 1: each case, you've doubled your win total from a year ago. Well, 719 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: that's why it's important to go on the road. And 720 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: you know, obviously, you know we're gonna talk about Bill 721 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: Belichick and Cliff Kingsbury, but it really comes down to 722 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: the players. I know that, you know, coaching matters when 723 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: it comes to schemes, and you have to beat the Giants, 724 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: and you have to beat the Eagles, and then you 725 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: know what happens with the Niners, that to me is 726 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: a winnable game, and then split with the Rams and 727 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: you get to ten. Clearly you're in. But you know 728 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 1: the key for the Cardinals is this week and then 729 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: you know what do they do against the Rams, because 730 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden, you get to eight wins, 731 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: all of a sudden looks a lot prettier when you 732 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: got three or four games still to go. It's not 733 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 1: a perfect position for the Arizona Cardinals, but it certainly 734 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: does beat the alternative, and have not been in this 735 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: spot in a long long time with respect to not 736 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: only meaningful football, but potentially looking ahead to the postseason 737 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 1: and saying, hey, you know there could be a game 738 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: wild Card weekend in January or maybe two games in January, 739 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: and that's certainly a huge step forward for this organization 740 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: in year two with Kyle Murray as your quarterback. Yeah, 741 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: you get to ten wins, that's a successful season. That 742 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: means you made the playoffs. Now, you know, six and four, 743 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: four and three in the conference, but ten wins I 744 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: would sign up for right now. I think we all 745 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: would have been in August and what you know, each 746 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: team's goals to win your division because you host a 747 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: playoff game, but based on them going to seven teams, 748 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: we all thought that possibly the NFC West could have 749 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: three of those teams. And you know right now you 750 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: still have Tampa in New Orleans from that division. You know, 751 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: we talked about Minnesota. Green Base got you know, stranglehold 752 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: on that. But the NFC West, not a surprise, could 753 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: have three teams in the postseason. I'd say maybe not 754 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: look ahead as far as the NFC standings, Keep your 755 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: eye on those behind you. Yes, in the conference, and 756 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: that's the Bears, Vikings Lines, forty nine Ers and Panthers, 757 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: but probably more so the Bears and Vikings with I 758 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: think we're both in a grim and you put the 759 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: Vikings ahead. As far as those five teams that could 760 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: leap frog the Cardinals, yeah, there's no doubt. And again 761 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: the Bears, we'll find out about the quarterback situation. But 762 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 1: I think when you get to Chicago and late late 763 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: in the year, defense will help that team. Now it's 764 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: just a matter of how much she offense can score. 765 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: Bird Gang. If you enjoy Cardinals Cover two, we invite 766 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: you to subscribe to Arizona Cardinals podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 767 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 1: Google Podcast, Stitcher, and SoundCloud. Listen to your favorite shows 768 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: on the go like Cardinals Underground, The Big Red Rays, 769 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: The Cardinals Red Sea Report, and of course this show, 770 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two. Visit asy Cardinals dot com slash podcast 771 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: for more information. Certainly a lot of fun. MJ to 772 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: be able to sit here at the end of November 773 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: with the first Sunday of December right around the corner saying, 774 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: you know what, the season's not done. I don't care 775 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: what the draft position is. I'm not even looking at 776 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 1: the draft right now. What is in front of the 777 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. What is in front of the Bird Gang? 778 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: And that is exactly what we just spent twenty minutes 779 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: talking about, was within the division, within the conference, as 780 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: Briars trying to lock down a spot in the twenty 781 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: twenty postseason. Yeah, and we know the NFL, you know, 782 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: usually has four or five teams that didn't make the 783 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: postseason from a year ago that could make it this year. 784 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: But you win ten games, that is a vast improvement. 785 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: We talked about the stability in the front office, with 786 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: the coaching staff and the quarterback and this is they're 787 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: only going to get better. And then you know, right 788 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: now you've got five guys on the d line that 789 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,280 Speaker 1: you know are not being able to play. So obviously 790 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: injuries is effect that this team at certain points. But 791 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: you get to ten wins, then all of a sudden, 792 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 1: next year, you're not going to be a sleeper team. 793 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: You're not going to be a surprise team. Teams they're 794 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: gonna say, well, you start looking at it that they 795 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: had the second best quarterback in the division, how do 796 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: they rank with the wide receiver position across the board. 797 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: So the future looks bright, but clearly you have to 798 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: finish what you're doing this year because not missing the 799 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: playoffs would be disappointing to me. Yeah, six games left 800 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: to go doesn't sound like a lot, and it's going 801 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 1: to be over in a matter of moments. But this 802 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: is certainly now a stretch that the Cardinals have to 803 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: take advantage of if they ultimately want to get where 804 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: we want them to get to, and that is the 805 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: playoffs and then be invited to that party in twenty 806 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 1: twenty one officially twenty twenty one with respect to games 807 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: playoff games in January. And you want to be playing 808 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: your best football down the stretch, I mean again, don't 809 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: limp into the post, right, And you don't even though 810 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: if you get to nine or ten wins, okay, we're good. No, 811 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: I mean you really want to be playing your best 812 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: football and you're gonna get some good tests when you're 813 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: playing the Rams twice. Obviously you know it's a road 814 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: game going to New England, but yeah, it means you 815 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: don't want to limp into the playoffs. So if you 816 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: get to ten wins, that means you were four and 817 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: two in your final six and you're ten and six 818 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: and you want to be playing meaningful But this is 819 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: something we haven't had, and you bring it up a 820 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: lot it's playing meaningful football in November and December and 821 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: we can check that box. So far. An opportunity to 822 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: get win number seven coming up this Sunday at New England. 823 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: Much more on that contest as the week on folds, 824 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 1: and on that note, we will put a lid on 825 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Honday Probab, 826 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to 827 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: our executive producer, Jim Amhundro. For Mike Jarecki, I'm gregoryel Lou. 828 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time you're on Cardinals Cover 829 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: two