WEBVTT - The Vocal Trail 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:03.680 I've heard that there's a house that has some bodies 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:04.280 in the basement. 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:07.480 Somebody told you that Shakaia was a victim of human trafficking. 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:08.480 I'm come to find out. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:12.120 This is like it exploded into this huge thing. 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:14.560 I knew, I just knew something was wrong. 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.919 Police say thirty three year old Jared Bridigan was shot dead. 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:20.280 I kept calling his phone during the drive. 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:22.840 Gunned down in front of his two year old daughter. 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:25.200 It's a murder of the stun Jack Speach neighbors. 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.880 His murder has attracted national attention, with the investigators saying 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:29.760 he was targeted. 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:32.320 Eventually, a police officer answered and told me to come 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:33.320 to the police station. 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.800 Justice is something that takes different shapes or formed. 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:43.280 If you know something, heard something, please it's never too 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:43.960 late to do. 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:44.560 The right thing. 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.080 So I'm Dana Thompson aka Body Movin, and. 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:51.519 I'm John Green. For about a decade, Deanna and I 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.400 spent a lot of time on the Internet, especially in 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.480 the underbelly of the Internet, trying to identify and get 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:59.120 animal abusers arrested. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.600 We spent countless hours scouring the dark web helping catch predators. 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:07.600 We spent over a year and a half trying to 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.360 get law enforcement to take us seriously about a man 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.880 that was killing cats online and he was threatening to 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:15.360 move on to kill humans. And that was Luca mcnauta. 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.559 Yeah, you might have heard about the Netflix special called 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:19.840 Don't Fuck with Cats. 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:24.320 That's us. Well, now we're turning our online investigator skills 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:28.520 to some of the most unexplained, unsolved, and just ignored cases. 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:35.640 This is True Crimes, the production of iHeartRadio and Katie's Studios. 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:41.040 This episode contains extremely graphic information and it's not appropriate 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:46.800 for children. Okay, So a couple of recordings ago, I 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:53.160 ran into cousin Sophie's post about Shakaya being missing and 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:58.480 was going through the comments and found a post from 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:04.320 a woman named Darla May posted and the name of 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:09.320 a person named Rica Wallace and said he's the last 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.600 known person to be with her when she left Billings 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.720 And it's the same dude who raped my a minor 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.520 daughter and drugged her. So of course, you know, at 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:23.519 that time, I pulled him out and started looking into him, 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:29.160 and I am continuing on with that right now. So 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:34.960 I found two or three Facebook profiles for him. There 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:38.600 was a flyer created and it has two of them, 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.760 he spells his name different than his actual legal name, 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.760 and I'll get into that. But there was two, and 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:49.919 one is just Rica Wallace and the other is Raws 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:55.400 and Hal raw And there's nothing really of interest on 0:02:55.639 --> 0:03:00.120 either of those Facebook profiles. Ross and Hale's pretty empty. 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:06.280 And so again is his Rico Wallace page. So I 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:09.680 did a search for Wallace or or Rico Wallace just 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:13.600 on Facebook in general, and Tammy Bhaar comes out. Who 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:18.000 is Shakaia's mother? Posted in December of twenty twenty one 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.200 about Rico. It sounds to me like this post she 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:25.359 is empathizing with another mother who is going through something similar. 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.600 She says Shakaia was a bright and beautiful, young, slow 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.960 soul who trusted the wrong people. She was also at 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:37.160 Tumbleweed here in Billings where she met wiz Aka Rome 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:41.840 big Day and Rico Wallace. Rico spent three months grooming 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.880 her before she disappeared. I believe Rico knows where she 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:48.120 is or where she went from Billings. I believe they 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:51.440 have the info we are seeking. Luckily, Rico is being 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.640 charged and held accountable for the rape of a minor 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.560 and for criminal endangerment from a charred stemming from twenty nineteen. 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:02.160 He's currently being all the Yellowstone County detention and has 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.080 an upcoming court dates for both of these charges. Hopefully 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:06.840 the family can take this as a win. I fought 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:09.120 hard to get him off the streets, even if only 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.480 for five or ten years. He can't earn anyone else's 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:14.200 daughter right now, so that's a positive. Rico is the 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.880 face of human trafficking. To me, he is the one 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.080 I think of when I think of the many women 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.200 who suffer at the hands of abusive and evil men. 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:24.040 He is responsible for drug traffic into our great state 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:29.000 and human trafficking. So Shakaia's mother posted that in December 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:33.200 of twenty twenty one, and I took out the part. 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.200 The important part to me was that you know when 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.599 she says she was also at tumbleweedhar in Billings where 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:42.039 she met wiz Aka, Rome big Day and Rico Wallace. 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.440 So I want to know more about Rico and of 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:49.400 course Rome Big Day or wiz So I'm going to 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:55.920 dig into Rico right now. John, you know how Rico's 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.520 name keeps coming up in the Chikaya case. I did 0:04:58.520 --> 0:04:59.360 some digging on him. 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.440 Really, did you find anything good or useful well. 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.679 His full name is Rico Adrian Wallace, and he's currently 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:09.200 in Yellowstone County Jail facing several charges, one of which 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.680 is rape. He's from San Diego, but he's lived in 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.360 Phoenix as well and appears to be an aspiring rapper. 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:16.920 He has a long criminal history, and he's had several 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:20.159 social media accounts that have been deactivated and reactivated, but 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.719 his actual social media is pretty bare. There just isn't 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:23.159 much there. 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.200 And we know that Shikaia's mother has posted about Rico 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.960 and she seems to think that Rico seems to know 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.640 what happened to Chikaia or where she is now. But 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.839 I also think we need to talk to this other woman, 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:37.039 Darla May, who Shakaia's mother seems to be interacting with 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.000 on Facebook. Darla also seems to know a lot about 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:41.080 Rigo too. Yeah. 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.880 I've looked at Darla as well, and she advocates a 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.719 lot for Chicaia as well, so she might know a 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:48.120 little bit more about Rico, and I think would be 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:48.840 really smart. 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:49.200 To talk to her. 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.640 Hello, Hi, Darla, so nice to talk to you. Thank 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:01.080 you so much much for talking to us. I know 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:04.440 that there was some apprehension and I totally understand. So 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:08.119 we've been looking into the disappearance of Chakaya Blue Harding, 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.440 and I'm sure you kind of already know that. In 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.320 looking at like all the social media, we ran into 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:18.920 Rico Wallace, you know, and Romelo Big Day, and we've 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.560 just kind of been trying to like piece together some stuff. 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:25.880 And I see you in your profile sharing a lot 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:29.880 of the information about Rico, right, And I was like, man, 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.120 I would love to talk to her, to see you know, 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:36.280 because like it just feels like, you know that he's 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.560 like in your heart of hearts, feel like he might 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.080 be involved. He might not necessarily have done anything, but 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:43.600 he knows what happened. 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:45.720 I'm pretty sure he like sold her. 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.240 How do you know Rico or not know him? But 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.520 how did you run into him? What is your what's 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:55.880 your information on him? 0:06:56.440 --> 0:07:01.160 Five months after Shakaia, my daughter was going through her 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:04.920 own stuff and she was just turned seventeen and September 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:10.640 of twenty eighteen, and she had been a runaway and 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:14.800 had met a guy that went by Miguel Martinez. I 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.240 took off with him and we were looking for her 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:19.000 and a bunch of the kids were telling us, oh, 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.600 Miguel Martinez has her, and so. 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.240 We figured out because. 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:26.400 Of who our connections are, kind of with that information, 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.880 who he was, where he was from the house he 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:32.200 grew up in his family's names. You know, mom passed away, 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.080 he had a twin sister, et cetera, et cetera. I 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.760 was out talking to his neighbors when I got his 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.200 home addressed and we went there, law enforcement came. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:40.960 My daughter really. 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.080 Wanted to keep seeing him, and it was this whole 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.360 thing about, you know, really I need to see him. 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:46.080 I'm going to run away. 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:46.880 I'm not going to see them. 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:50.559 He's my boyfriend, and so you know, I said, fine, 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:52.360 you can date him, but it has to be at 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.960 our home, like we're going to meet this guy. And 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.960 after a little while of them dating, he'd asked me 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:59.880 if he could take her on a date. I said, okay, 0:07:59.880 --> 0:08:01.840 I guess, you know, but have her back by this time. 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.960 And at that particular time, about two weeks prior to 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.160 the incident where Rico, where I found out Rico was involved, 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:12.080 he had taken her to Rico's house to meet Rico 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.520 for no reason because took her there instead of a date, 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:18.040 took her over there. So Rico was literally seeing if 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:19.840 he wanted her at that time. 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:25.080 Oh my god, that was like a screening of some kind. Yes, 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:25.880 oh my gosh. 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:29.200 Okay, and that was Miguel, which law enforcement, when I 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.720 spoke to the detective had told me that Miguel Martinez 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:32.440 is a. 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:34.720 One of the people who recruits. 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.200 And so anyways, two weeks later, my husband had just 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.840 got off of work and then I guess Rico had 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.000 reached out and she'd seen him, and he told her 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:45.280 that Miguel Martinez would quote slide. 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.240 Through you know, that he would come pick her up. 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.160 He picked her up about a block away off my 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.840 security cameras and then drove her to his residence where 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.800 at that time she handed the bottle over to Rico, 0:08:56.280 --> 0:09:00.319 and there was Wiz was there, and two females were 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:06.680 also identified to be recruiters for Rico and Wiz, and 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:12.640 so Wizz is Ramello big dig So there there she 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.600 hands the bottle to them. They smokes the marijuana. He 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.800 proceeds to go into the kitchen behind a wall and 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:19.640 make a drink, brings it out to her. She takes 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.320 a couple of SIPs. She thinks it's weird. She feels 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:21.720 so weird. 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:22.640 She doesn't want to come home. 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.079 She's scared, so she's like, I need to go lay down, 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.480 and Rico escorts her to his bedroom and this is 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:28.800 where it's going to get graphic. 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:30.760 Is that okay? Okay? 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.360 So at that point he laid her down and she 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.800 was out of consciousness. At some point later she woke 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:40.079 up and she could see him over her, and he 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.360 had later so that her butt was kind of almost 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.240 off the bed and her legs were hanging off of 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:47.280 the bed, and she woke up because she was in pain, 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.199 and he had bit her from her clitoris to her 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.360 anus and proceeded to rape her. And then the next morning, 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:56.360 she literally carried her out of the apartment into his 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.240 vehicle and dropped her off two blocks away and forced 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.880 her to walk back home. At that point, she came 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.600 home and said that she thought that an assault had 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.640 taken a you know, taken had been done, and we 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.040 went to the hospital and forensic before ran. And then 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.120 at that point the police had told me because I 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:12.960 called an asked for an update, and they said that 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:16.200 it's basically her word against his. I said, at that point, 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.240 he was twenty nine and I'd found out he was 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.360 twenty nine, So I said, you know, how is it 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.520 a seventeen year old to word against a twenty nine 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.720 year old when she could describe to you the alcohol 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.480 and the pipe. So later on, you know, time went on, 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:30.319 nothing happened. I kept trying to call, I was getting 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.520 the run around. Nobody knew where the fucking case was. 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.560 So then I finally. 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.240 Darla, Darla, Darla, real quick, when you say the police, 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:39.800 are you talking Billings. 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:40.840 Police, Billings Police Department? 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:41.680 Okay, okay? 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:42.800 And I talked to like. 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:44.520 Even the chief of police, and I talked to the 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.760 Human Trafficking Division here, and neither one of those places 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.679 gave two shits about anything I had to say. Penny 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:52.640 Ronning said she did talk to the chief of police 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.559 and he was aware of who Rico was, but he 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:57.200 never got back to me about anything else or anything 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.400 until I started getting on Facebook and making a deal 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:00.800 out of it. 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.040 So the billing speed tell you it's basically his word 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.000 against your daughters. 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.840 Correct, And so eventually I get in touch with the 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.440 prosecuting attorney and I demand to see him because I 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:13.680 want to know why this case hasn't went any further. 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.720 At that point, I guess he's the county attorney. He 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:20.360 told us that the quote because he said they can't 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.559 do you know, we can't get his DNA because he's 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.960 not in custody. At that point, he was not in custody. 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:28.320 And then they said that, you know, why what else? 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.280 Why can't we use the crime scene photo she was 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.320 bitten aggressively? Why can't we use those in court? And 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:36.760 he said quote that that would make it look like 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.120 she liked it rough? And I said, excuse me, Yes, 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.720 he said those words to me, and I said, excuse me, 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:46.240 how does a seventeen year old know how they like it? 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.800 So that was a big red flag at that point. 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.600 A little while after that, I well, I was posting 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.040 about Rico because we did have the rape case. It 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.360 was an open case, and so I was posting about 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:02.240 him and I started investigating him. I had started posting 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.800 him aggressively on Facebook, and he left the state. 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.760 He left. He was actually arrested prior to coming to 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:10.199 Montana and Idaho. 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.800 So he left Montana because of that. 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:14.559 I'm pretty sure, yeah, he took off. 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.400 And then a little while after that is when detectives 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.840 reached out to me about Chicaya and said, you know 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:21.720 all of the information, can you help us? 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:22.760 And I was like, holy crap. 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.760 They took my daughter and had her go and do 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.520 lineup and identify the people and talk to them about 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.880 what had happened with her case, because obviously it's very 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:37.360 similar and the same person is involved in both anyway, 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.760 So I started researching Rico. I was finding out who 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.560 his family members was. So I found out that Rico 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:47.840 had lived in San Diego, California, and he's he's related 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:51.319 to a man named Raheem Callaway and that they moved 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:57.000 here together, and Raheem Callaway had started a wrap business 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.760 like it's called Alpha Pride Entertainment. And I mentioned that 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.720 law enforcement when I talked to that county attorney, and 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:04.160 I had said, you know, it makes no sense that 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:06.600 these men came up here all the way from San Diego, 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:08.640 where they're like two hours from LA where the big 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.880 dogs are, where real wrap is at West Coast rap 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.960 to Podunk, Montana to start this business. 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:15.959 And I also. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.640 Found out that Raheem Calloway's exit dress and there's a 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:22.600 video on YouTube from I twenty nineteen and it's Joahim's 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.960 first music video, and Rico was in it. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:26.040 And it shows the. 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.920 Address is three thirty three Jackson and that's in the 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:33.040 Monroe area where in Billings, Montana, there's this area and 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.920 it's on the south side and it's like three blocks Monroe, 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:36.959 Jackson and another one. 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:38.240 I can't think of the third one right. 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.400 Now, but there are three blocks of row houses and 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:45.559 law enforcement tells me that that is known for human trafficking. 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:47.679 I found out they all moved up here together. It 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:48.520 made no sense to me. 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:50.760 We realized when the chicaia had happened that this is 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:52.480 most likely human trafficking. 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:53.719 So I was thinking, you know, this. 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.920 Is just some old pedophile, you know that likes to 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.520 go for little younger women, you know, like date rates 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:00.200 and hurts them. 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.080 And come to find out this is like. 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:06.920 It exploded into this huge thing, so much bigger than. 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.240 What it looked like for the outside. 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:11.280 When when I talked to county attorney and I said, 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.800 how many times did you try to make contact with 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.400 Rico in regards to my daughter's case, He said, we 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:18.840 tried too, And I said, well how about Hikaya Blue 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:22.040 Harding tell me that they never once went to his 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:25.320 house to investigate it. They told me that they never 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:28.280 want tried to knock on his door in relation to 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:31.200 her case, and the only reason they did because I 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:32.480 made a big deal out of it. 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:36.360 But she's also white. She's white. They go to a 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.160 white girl for a white girl, and. 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.840 Girl actually they try to make contact, but don't at 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:44.120 all for a Native American with a history, and I 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.160 think that's absolute bullshit to the way that people look 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.040 at Native Americans here is terrible. 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:56.400 Oh my gosh, Darla has a ton of really important 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:59.920 information about Rico. It's just awful what happened to her daughter. 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:02.840 But wow, is she a fighter. She really advocates for 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:03.320 her daughter. 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.640 Yeah, there was a ton of information she gave us 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.280 and there's a lot to unpack there, and I'm trying 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.520 to put it all together as we did it. So 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:12.840 I don't know, what do you think? 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.040 I mean? You know, I'm trying not to insert my 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:19.560 own experiences into these cases, but it's hard not to 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:23.000 be a little bit triggered when you hear such graphic 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:27.600 detail about a sexual assault. From an investigative standpoint, you 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.880 have to separate yourself, right, you have to separate yourself 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:33.520 from the experience and what actually happened, And that's hard 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:33.840 to do. 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.240 Let's stop here for a break. We'll be back in 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:38.680 a moment. 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.680 Our conversation with Darla got me thinking, I think we 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.440 also need to dig more into Chicaia's friend Aaron, since 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:57.800 he was at Tumbleweed and saw Shakaia in the last 0:15:57.880 --> 0:15:59.880 days that she was seeing in July of twenty eight. 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.320 He supposedly was concerned for her safety and gave her 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:05.320 a knife before she went into see. 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.360 Rico and sent. So much of the interaction between Chicaia 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:12.400 and Rico and these other individuals happened around the Tumbleweed facility. 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.840 I think we need to talk to somebody there. The 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.840 current director is a woman named Georgia Caddy and get this, 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.760 she used to be the human trafficking person there. If 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:24.400 they have a position specifically for dealing with human trafficking, 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.280 it must be a serious issue. 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.480 And maybe she'll know something about Aaron as well. 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:32.000 Hopefully our private investigator, Mike Tough can help track him down. 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.640 It's worth a shot. I think we should call him. 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:36.960 Hey, Deanna, you're there. 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:38.720 Hey, Mike's on the line too. 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:39.520 How are you doing Mike? 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:41.600 Hey, Mike, I'm good. How are you guys? 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:47.000 We're doing quite well. So the Chikaya case. Deanna and I. 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.160 Were talking about it earlier, kind of going over the 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.880 timeline of events and stuff, and so we're kind of 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.200 stuck on that right now when we're trying to talk 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.520 to people, and it sounds like when Chikaia left, her 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.320 and her sister weren't talking and she probably doesn't know 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.480 much that was going on in that like six month timeframe. 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.680 So we're reaching out to people who Shakaia would have known. 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.359 One of them is the guy Aaron Peterson. 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.840 So you said you remembered the story about how Shakaia 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.080 went walking to a park some guy saw her. 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.040 She said I was going to meet some unknown male and. 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:20.960 That he gave her a knife. So this is the 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.640 person that gave her the knife, but the story is changing. 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:29.439 He knew Shakaiya, he knew Shakaya, and when the sister 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.359 reached out to him, he goes, here's w you should 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.400 look at. You should look at this Rico guy, her 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:37.359 ex boyfriend. He was very upset that she broke up 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:41.160 with him, and he was threatening people like Erin. And 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:45.479 so Aaron sees Shakaia talks to her. She says, well, 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.080 I'm going to talk to him right now I'm going 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.159 to take care of it right now, and he tries 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.440 to talk her out of it, like, don't go by yourself, 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:52.320 there's no no, no. 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.120 He goes, well, here take this knife. 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.200 And we think that happened. 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:58.840 On July twenty third, right, Okay. 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.080 So we're trying to get a whole to this Aaron 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.080 person to see if we can talk to him and 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:04.280 if he could fill in some. 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:05.159 More holes with us. 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:09.800 So Shawnee sent us a bunch of screenshots and one 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:15.440 of the screenshots is I think from Shakaia's Facebook and 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.440 it's it's basically a common thread, so I can't see 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:23.080 you know where it happened, but I'm assuming it's Shakaia's Facebook, right. 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.800 And in the screenshots, Rico says, where are you at? 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:30.360 Hit me up? And Aaron replies and says leave her alone. 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.679 Nobody likes you. You're the reason she's leaving. Then he 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:35.960 goes on to say he says, I'm right here. You 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:38.280 know if you want me, you can come find me, 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:42.679 and he basically they're fighting on Facebook. Okay, it's not important, right, right, 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.760 But Rico's posts had been deleted because he's it looks 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:49.160 like he's talking to himself, right, So then the rest 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:52.560 of the screenshots are messages that Shawnee sent him and 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:54.520 they It starts off with do you know my sister? 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.280 And he says, yeah, I know her. She was like 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:59.440 a sister to me. And the person you probably need 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.200 to be looking talking to is Rico. He was obsessed 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.359 with her and they broke up, or she broke up 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:07.159 with him. Shawne says, well, what can you tell me 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:10.280 more about it? And he basically says, yeah, I saw 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:14.320 her and she was walking to Rico's house and to 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.600 settle some issues. And Shawne says, well what issues? And 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.600 Aaron replied and he said she broke up with him 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:24.520 and he got angry and was threatening people. And then 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:27.560 when she saw that he was threatening me erin, she said, 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:28.760 I'm gonna go talk to him. 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:31.280