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Speaker 1: All Right, here we go. It is a Thursday, the

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Speaker 1: day after the NBA Draft. Everybody's trying to size it up.

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Speaker 1: and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us

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Speaker 1: part of your day. Jmac, good to have you back.

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff, build in great guy. Jmack is back after

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Speaker 1: hanging out with the kids and doing something, you know,

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Speaker 1: parent and stuff. That's the way it works. And it

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Speaker 1: was NBA Draft is funny because unlike the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 1: it's just all projection. Right, You're just kind of you're

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Speaker 1: kind of guessing because everybody's so young. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how I you know, it's I don't have a I'm

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Speaker 1: supposed to have really strong takes. The NBA Draft is

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Speaker 1: one of the things that everybody has strong takes on.

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Speaker 1: In my take is who can tell? Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean the booklyn Nets had five first round picks.

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Speaker 3: Everybody who's expecting a trade. They take five guys like

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Speaker 3: who knows that they're gonna be next year?

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Speaker 1: All right? So my take is there's two guys in

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Speaker 1: this draft that you will see immediately, and that's because

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Speaker 1: they're going to good teams. Cooper Flag in Dallas. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna score eighteen to twenty a game, I think, very quickly,

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Speaker 1: and he'll be on a good team. I think Dallas

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Speaker 1: is really good. And I think the Jay Edgecomb who

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Speaker 1: good coach. They're gonna he that kid jumps off the television,

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Speaker 1: NBA skills, athletic trades. Those guys will play that. Dylan

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Speaker 1: Harper goes number two. I think he has a great future,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's gonna take him a while to

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Speaker 1: with San Antonio. But in the ENDFT you are plugging

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Speaker 1: in holes immediately, often with second, third, fourth, fifth rounders.

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Speaker 1: That's why with this draft, I can't get too high.

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Speaker 1: I can't get too low. I mean, for God's sakes,

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Speaker 1: I'm told Portland drafted me. So who knows. Sga went eleventh,

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Speaker 1: he was the finals MVP. Jokis went second round, so

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Speaker 1: did Draymond Green. Giannis went fifteenth. I think Kawhi went fifteenth.

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Speaker 1: a year, it's not just projection, or if it is,

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Speaker 1: they go to good teams, you'll see him play. But

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Speaker 1: if you go back twenty years, there's only been two

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Speaker 1: number one picks who have been MVPs once, obviously Lebron

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Speaker 1: san Antonio kind of crushed it. And my take is

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Speaker 1: it used to be in the seventies and eighties, if

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Speaker 1: the in the eighties and nineties, it was like even

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan needed a Hall of Fame level number two.

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Speaker 1: You know Shaq and Kobe, and it's Jordan and Pippen,

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Speaker 1: and it's Duncan and Parker, and then you could stack

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Speaker 1: teams for a few years and the NBA didn't like that, right,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, Steph Ci people didn't like that. Now I

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Speaker 1: think we've moved into a different area. I would call

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Speaker 1: You can't stack it with all stars. You have to

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Speaker 1: draft and develop. So, for instance, I would say Indiana's

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Speaker 1: there's two guys that will come in good teams. Cooper

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Speaker 1: So you faced VJ. Edgecomb from Baylor. Okay, what did

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Speaker 4: Is a tremendous athlete. Fast, he plays way way above

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Speaker 1: So Rick Patino knows hoops. Those are the two guys.

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Speaker 1: I think next year you'll see him on TV. They're

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Speaker 1: on playoff teams and they'll score. I want to talk

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Speaker 1: Obviously Anthony Bennett, Markel Foltz were just big misses. But

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Speaker 1: to me, there's only one warning sign that almost Ohwa's

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Speaker 1: So if you start looking at number one picks, international

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Speaker 1: My guess is I like Danny Ainge a lot, and

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Speaker 1: think that's the one thing, the one warning sign to me,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got to have more self awareness. You

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Speaker 1: a summer league game. And Ace Bailey looks like he's

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Speaker 1: not interested. But as far as Cooper Flag goes, this

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Speaker 1: looks like another hit and even more than the NFL

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Speaker 5: We excided to be a sponge to get down there

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I I don't know if we're getting better at

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Speaker 1: and I've talked about this sort of ad nauseum in

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Speaker 1: last night's draft, if anything, I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: and the NFL because Tim Tebow, whether he can play

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Speaker 1: So I think last night's draft is the beginning of

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Speaker 1: a really good trend. We'll have watched almost all these guys,

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Speaker 1: even the international guys mostly will have seen them in March.

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Speaker 3: And you had the great point a couple weeks ago

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Speaker 3: to play college basketball. And I think branding is also

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Speaker 3: part of it, in addition to the nil and that

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Speaker 3: trend of hey, European players at the top of the

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Speaker 3: now we're transitioning back to American players.

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Speaker 1: And listen, I know there's Cooper Flagg's divisive colony.

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Speaker 3: People are like comparing him to Christian Leytner and stuff.

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Speaker 3: hear him in the interview. He's going to be dominant,

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Speaker 3: and I like Dallas a lot next year.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, like listen, Anthony Bennett and

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Speaker 1: Markel Folts didn't work. But by and large, considering how

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Speaker 1: I mean, Blake Griffin probably he was dynamic. Maybe he's

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Speaker 1: a great career. He was one of the most talked

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Speaker 1: a lot of huge misses, and it's usually an attitude

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Speaker 1: One? Yama you do that in our peas twenty or

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Speaker 3: Serious, yes you think The bengals would actually Trade Joe

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Speaker 1: You need to get out of the first round in The.

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Speaker 1: has played. Brilliantly the criticism Of lamar is totally. Fair

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Speaker 1: he has struggled in the. Postseason If buffalo called today and, said, Hey,

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Speaker 9: ME i don't know if this is the last show

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Speaker 8: Or, whatever BUT i hope you had a good night

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Speaker 9: i'll be totally. Honest you, KNOW i didn't love the

425
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 9: Whole i'm only gonna work out for certain. Things, NOW

426
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 9: i THINK i understand the concept of he's a high volume.

427
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 9: Guy you don't want to go to the wrong, team

428
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 9: sit on the, bench not set yourself up to get

429
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 9: the second.

430
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 8: Contract BUT i also think that, like once that.

431
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 9: HAPPENS i don't blame The jazz for drafting a guy

432
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 9: totally based on upside that if it hits like it

433
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 9: isn't an insane, possibility like it isn't a completely unrealistic

434
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 9: possibility that he ends up the best player in the.

435
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 9: Draft and so you, know The jazz are one of these.

436
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 9: TEAMS i don't think the rebuild has been quite as

437
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 9: long as we think it, is but it feels like

438
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 9: it's been like four or five. Years they've been waiting

439
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 9: to get in position to get that. Guy and if

440
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 9: you have the opportunity to get the potentially first second

441
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 9: best player in this draft at number six where they were,

442
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 9: drafting you just have to take. Advantage SO i didn't

443
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 9: Love Ace bailey's approach to. THIS i would have personally

444
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 9: advised him to handle it. Differently but once he's there

445
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 9: and you're The Utah jazz and you just cannot get

446
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 9: into that top spot or, TWO i don't blame them

447
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 9: for taking the upside.

448
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: Pick, okay his Teammate Dylan harper And Carter bryant go

449
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: to The SPURS i, Said i'm not going to PRETEND i,

450
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 1: know but it does feel like they're going to be

451
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: part of their core, four With wemby being obviously the.

452
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: Centerpiece give me a little On Dylan harper and a

453
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: little On Carter. Bryant, WELL i love.

454
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 9: The, draft and you KNOW i put out a tweet

455
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 9: at some point last night that this feels like if

456
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 9: it hits WHERE okc was four years, ago is you've

457
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 9: got all these.

458
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 8: Picks and, AGAIN i also give The spurs.

459
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 9: Credit they might not be drafting frankly in the lot

460
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 9: for literally like a. Decade if this goes, well they

461
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 9: won't be drafting this high for a long. Time so

462
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 9: don't get, cute don't take just take the best player

463
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 9: available and hope that he absolutely hits In Dylan harper

464
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 9: AND i think there's an argument that he was the best.

465
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 8: Player, again you could argue somebody, Else Ace, bailey. Whatever

466
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 8: the guy THAT i.

467
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 9: Am excited About, colin And i'm so fired up that

468
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 9: you feel the same. Way Carter bryan to, me If

469
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 9: Carter briant, HITS i think he's going to be a true.

470
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 9: Star AND i know everybody wants to look at the

471
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 9: stats At. Arizona i'll give a little. Background you, KNOW

472
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 9: i Love Tommy. LLOYD i love this. STAFF i hope

473
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 9: this doesn't come off as a, criticism but they are a.

474
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 9: Program you. Know Tommy lloyd's A Mark fu. Guy Mark

475
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 9: feu relies on his, veterans trust his. Veterans Tommy lloyd

476
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 9: comes from that. Tree AND i Think Tommy, LLOYD i,

477
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 9: think planned on Easing Carter brian in and all of

478
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 9: a sudden it's, like oh my, god this guy's way

479
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 9: better than we. Realized and now all of a, sudden

480
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 9: you're kind, of you, know stuck in this spot of

481
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 9: he's playing better than your aarticipating the Point i'm trying to.

482
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 9: Make don't look at the. Stats the analogy THAT i

483
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 9: have made On Carter BRIAN i truly. Believe i've said

484
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 9: this a million times for people who have listened to.

485
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 9: ME i was At yukon at the same time As Rudy.

486
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 9: Gay Carter bryant reminds me so much Of Rudy gay

487
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 9: at the same. Age AND i know some people will, say,

488
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 9: Oh Rudy, gay what is. That Rudy gay played in

489
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 9: THE nba for eighteen. Years Rudy gay retired last year

490
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 9: at thirty eight years.

491
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 8: Old, like don't Let lebron fool.

492
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 9: You if you are playing until you're thirty eight years,

493
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 9: old it means you had a very GOOD nba. Career

494
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 9: AND i think if it Hits Carter bryan as one

495
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 9: of the two three four best players in this. Draft

496
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 9: SO i love The Dylan harper, pick BUT i really

497
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 9: love The Carter briant pick as.

498
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 1: Well, Yeah i've been saying for two weeks when you

499
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: Turned arizona on certain college, players you're, like, oh, okay,

500
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: wow who's that? Guy the other, kid The baylor KID Vj. Edgecombe,

501
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: okay we all Watched baylor top. Program that. Kid now

502
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: stylistically he's Not westbrook but Burst speed Jet fuel while

503
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: he jumped off THE tv WHEN i watched. Him your

504
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: thoughts one thousand.

505
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 9: Percent first of, All i'll say this About carter going

506
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 9: back To Carter brian for half a, SECOND i was

507
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 9: in the same boat as.

508
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 8: YOU i had seen him in high.

509
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 9: School you turn on that first Second arizona and you're,

510
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 9: like oh my, goodness this guy is better than we.

511
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 8: Expected but in terms Of edgecomb is.

512
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 9: Concerned So i'm with, You colin And i'll say this

513
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 9: is that you know, myself a lot of people were

514
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 9: kind of critical of the draft coverage last. NIGHT i

515
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 9: thought they actually did a good job of explaining kind

516
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 9: of this weird situation That philadelphia is in where it's,

517
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 9: like IF mbat is, healthy you're sort of a, contender

518
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 9: especially with where The east is going to be next,

519
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 9: year but also you're sort of in a rebuild because

520
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 9: m beat is never.

521
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 8: Healthy so what do you?

522
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 9: Do AND i Think edgecomb is exactly what you just,

523
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 9: said is he's an elite a plus plus athlete that

524
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 9: is learning the game of basketball in real. Time BUT

525
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 9: i think in a worst case, scenario you have a

526
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 9: guy that shows up to work every, day, competes plays,

527
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 9: hard elite, defender and then it just comes down to

528
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 9: can he consistently get that? Offense AND i think with,

529
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 9: him AND i think you kind of mentioned this off the,

530
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 9: top sometimes it's just so. TOUGH i, mean this is

531
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 9: an eighteen year old kid going into A baylor program

532
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 9: that has always had, success but also with a cup

533
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 9: well you, know high ups or not high, upside but

534
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 9: really kind of veteran transfer type, guys and you, know

535
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 9: he kind of didn't know not in a negative, way

536
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 9: but didn't really know where he fed how you, know

537
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 9: how how far could he push? Things and SO i

538
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 9: think he could be just JUST i think in a

539
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 9: worst case, scenario you're getting an elite defensive, player elite,

540
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 9: athlete guy that shows up every day and if the offense.

541
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 9: CLICKS i Know i've said it about four different guys

542
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 9: in this, draft but, again he's another one that in,

543
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 9: theory could be one of the two or three best

544
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 9: players in the.

545
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: Draft, okay a guy that's already AN nba shooter Is

546
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 1: Trey johnson who went To. Washington, now not a lot

547
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: of college guys are elite. Shooters can this guy walk

548
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: into THE nba and walk in in average double figures

549
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: and be like a like a like a number two

550
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: or three scoring option for a. Team.

551
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 9: YEAH i was talking to Your texas Insider Greg tooey

552
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 9: BEFORE i came on, here AND u, two we loved

553
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 9: watching him as a.

554
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 8: LONGHORN i loved watching. Him let me let me just

555
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 8: keep it very.

556
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 9: Simple when you are breaking some Of Kevin durant's freshman

557
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 9: scoring record To, texas like you can put the ball

558
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 9: in the basket, Right and ALL i would say is is,

559
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 9: that you, know anybody who isn't sold or doesn't know

560
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 9: enough about. Him he played a game at Bud wall

561
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 9: And arena Against arkansas where he did literally Break Kevin

562
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 9: durant's single game scoring record of he had forty. Two

563
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 9: durant had forty when he played At, texas and he

564
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 9: just showed every, shot every.

565
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 8: This every that and the.

566
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 9: Thing i'll give him credit for, too a little bit Like,

567
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 9: edgecumbe but not really is you know he. Was he

568
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 9: was playing, on, frankly not a very good. TEAM i

569
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 9: Know texas made the, tournament but they had this weird.

570
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 9: RESUME sec gets a million teams in and he showed

571
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 9: up every day ready to, Play AND i, thought you,

572
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 9: know they're on a big losing. Streak it's easy as a,

573
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 9: freshman you know you're going pro take the night. Off

574
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 9: he showed up every single day ready to. Compete you,

575
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 9: Know i'll be, HONEST i don't know that he does

576
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 9: much other than. Score but, listen every team in every

577
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 9: team in THE nba needs a dude that can put

578
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 9: the ball in the basket and.

579
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 8: Trade johnson certainly provides.

580
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: That, Finally Cooper. Flag is there anything about his game

581
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: that you does he have a trade or something he

582
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: has to work.

583
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 8: On it's a great.

584
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 9: QUESTION i actually don't think so as crazy as. That, now,

585
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 9: listen everybody's got to work on. Everything the THING i

586
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 9: caution With Cooper flag IS i think when we think

587
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 9: of these high upside freshmen that have been talked about for,

588
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 9: years we just assume it's a dude that's gonna come

589
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 9: in and, score you, know thirty points a, night or

590
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 9: his ceiling is a thirty point nine.

591
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 8: Score that's not really who he.

592
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 9: Is he's a great, facilitator you, know six foot, eight

593
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 9: six foot ninety, average however many assists he did At.

594
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 8: Duke he is a great wing. DEFENDER i love.

595
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 9: THAT i was saying that right as the wing defense

596
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 9: shows up on film AND i look like a. Genius but,

597
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 9: no he's a great wing. Defender he's a great help side.

598
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 9: Defender he's just a complete. Player AND i think until

599
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 9: you watch him game after, game you don't fully appreciate.

600
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 9: THAT i think the assumption is you turn it, on

601
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 9: you want to see him score. Thirty he can do,

602
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 9: that but that is not where he's at his. Best

603
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 9: he's at his best playing both ends of the, floor

604
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 9: competing defending on the, wing help side.

605
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 8: DEFENSE i just think he's going to be an absolute.

606
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 9: Start AND i think the cool thing is maybe he's

607
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 9: not a guy that can get thirty points, game but

608
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 9: with that specific, team he doesn't have.

609
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: To, yeah THE i like the fact there were so

610
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: many domestic, players AND i think THE nil is Helping

611
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: american universities poach some of the Great european. Players The

612
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: bulls got a guy That i'm you, know he's so

613
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: raw you can't really. Tell IS i, mean there's always

614
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: there's always a guy or two that we got about

615
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: a minute. Left is there a player you're worried? About

616
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: there's always gonna be guys that don't. WORK i, mean

617
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: are some of these young. GUYS i, MEAN i was

618
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 1: just reading all the draft prospective stuff last night and this.

619
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: Morning any anybody that you worry.

620
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 8: About first of, All i'll just say this really.

621
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 9: QUICK i love the take that you've had about AND

622
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 9: nil helping both college basketball and THE. NBA i think

623
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 9: there are about four or five guys that could have

624
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 9: heard their names late first round that all decided to

625
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 9: go back to college get ready for next. Year and

626
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 9: next year's class is loaded as far as guys that

627
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 9: THAT i do worry a little bit. About, LISTEN i

628
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 9: heard you, know billis all you know fired up About

629
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 9: Colin Murray boyles at number nine there To, toronto and

630
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 9: certainly it didn't seem like he was excited to go To.

631
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 9: Toronto i'll let everybody do the lip reading on the

632
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 9: on the draft video.

633
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 8: Two is he's like an undersized four not crazy. ATHLETIC i.

634
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 9: Don't it's one of those where everybody else is so

635
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 9: excited about, him you feel like you being, me feel

636
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 9: like you're.

637
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 8: Supposed to be excited about. HIM i don't know That

638
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 8: i'm there.

639
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 9: Yet he's the one GUY i just didn't really get

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Speaker 9: in the top. Ten but, again maybe Maybe i'm just

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Speaker 9: missing out on it and everybody else has the right

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Speaker 9: take on.

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Speaker 1: Him oh by the, way thirty seconds The Walter clayton,

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Speaker 1: KID i don't love him as much as everybody, else

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Speaker 1: the kid that went To. Florida, yeah the Guard. YEAH

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Speaker 1: i THINK i don't. KNOW i JUST i think he's

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Speaker 1: a is He is he your fifth best? Starter i've

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Speaker 1: got all everybody loves. IT i love his. Story i'm

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Speaker 1: in it. Left how good is he gonna? Be?

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Speaker 8: Now great? Question And, LISTEN i love college.

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Speaker 9: Hoops i'm as guilty as anybody have fallen in love

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Speaker 9: with guys that have an awesome. Tournament, uh, listen maybe

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Speaker 9: it is one of those stories better than the actual

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Speaker 9: reality of. It we're talking about a kid who started

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Speaker 9: his career AT iona With Rick. Patino Rick patino goes

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Speaker 9: To Saint, John's Todd golden convinces him to go To.

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Speaker 9: FLORIDA i think he's a dude that can get. Buckets now,

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Speaker 9: again you see a guy DOMINATING ncaa, tournament you assume

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Speaker 9: he's gonna be a top five, pick and that translates

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Speaker 9: to THE nba as a six,' two six' three guy

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Speaker 9: that isn't really, a ball.

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Speaker 8: HANDLER you know i think he's more of an off.

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Speaker 9: The bench Score but the wizards JUST need like, nba

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Speaker 9: CALIBER players and i think they Got One.

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Speaker 1: In.

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Speaker 8: Walter clay yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's to me he's like your, fifth best starter first

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Speaker 1: guy off the bench. Gets a bucket there's huge value,

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Speaker 1: in the league but he's. NOT a star i just.

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Speaker 1: Love His story aaron. Torres gotta go it's, Great. Seeing

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Speaker 1: you bud thank.

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Speaker 8: You For having Me. Colin, Enjoy, portland

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Speaker 1: Okay yeah thank, YOU very much i will