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Speaker 2: How are you doing, BC, Osama Ben Campbell in the flesh, Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: prediction time, Luke, and you love making predictions. So let's

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Speaker 1: Thank all right, hair's we're gonna do. We're gonna go

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Speaker 1: don't I don't know what the hell's gonna happen in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, but definitely some things we're watching, Definitely

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Speaker 1: some things that are on our mind. You can agree,

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Speaker 1: definitely on our mind. We're gonna go from heavyweight on

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know, I don't think that there's the same

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Speaker 3: All right, BC, we're gonna start with heavyweight prediction time. Now.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you want to go first. If not,

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna guess on this one, we're probably not

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Speaker 2: I know you want me to have a John Jones prediction,

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Speaker 2: and it's like our our knee jack, knee jerk, knee jack, Wow,

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame immortality. I mean, we're talking about something

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Speaker 2: big here, but Luke, we need to see him respond

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Speaker 2: from the knee injury, yes, but not out of the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what's funny, I'm actually gonna give you

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Speaker 1: fails to win the heavyweight title in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: which doesn't mean he won't win it eventually, which doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean he won't win it at all. It's not really

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Speaker 1: exactly what I'm saying, but the ide that he's going

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Speaker 1: We had to sit down with Chill Sonnan who's been

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Speaker 3: A long, long, long time off.

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Speaker 2: Either, because he has next frickin' level mental toughness that

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Speaker 2: hand in hand with his contract. So if this happens

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Speaker 2: that he comes back Luke, he will have won some

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Speaker 2: He's not gonna sign that contract with the UFC unless

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Speaker 2: I believe John Jones is gonna be great at heavyweight.

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Speaker 2: But I do believe the Francis and Ghana that I

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, I just believe that he comes back healthy.

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Speaker 2: He still has a window of his prime heavyweights age

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Speaker 2: especially now that he's much better than he was in

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Speaker 2: I think his skill is only getting better along the way.

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Speaker 2: So I think Jones beats everybody bud him. How about that, Luke?

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Speaker 2: How about that? Okay?

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm too far apart, and I think

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Speaker 1: See anything else in the division you're watching, I'll give

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Speaker 1: He's based some good opponents as well. Folks sleep on

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Speaker 2: A great call in Romanov. By the way, dude, it's

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Speaker 2: What is that ceiling? Does he just push right through it?

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Speaker 2: I think Curtis Blades finally comes around and has his moment.

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Speaker 2: So to me, what does his moment mean getting to

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Speaker 2: I don't think he'll break through and fight for a

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Speaker 3: The lightweight Grand Prix. Like need some fresh matchups, you

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Speaker 2: have the other guy's number, and I don't like to

429
00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,119
Speaker 2: ever lean on that, you know, when it comes to

430
00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,359
Speaker 2: a prediction. But I do fear that it always goes

431
00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,200
Speaker 2: back to the couch. When pregame preview and Chuck Winnenhall

432
00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,600
Speaker 2: was like, we might be having this wrong. This is

433
00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,480
Speaker 2: the Poeoton redemption story, even though he won the first

434
00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,320
Speaker 2: two meetings. This is not even about Auto Sonia. Look

435
00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,240
Speaker 2: at maybe just that man's time, you know what I'm saying,

436
00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:19,720
Speaker 2: Sometimes you can't fuck with that.

437
00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,920
Speaker 1: Yes and no, here's my prediction for twenty twenty three.

438
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,080
Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, I don't really know exactly how

439
00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,560
Speaker 1: it happens, right, I don't know what I'm about to

440
00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,160
Speaker 1: say is I'm not exactly sure what the mechanics are.

441
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,880
Speaker 1: But I think by the end of twenty twenty three,

442
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,560
Speaker 1: Robert Whitaker reclaims his title.

443
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,720
Speaker 3: That's what I think. He's been waiting in the wings

444
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:38,280
Speaker 3: for a while.

445
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,560
Speaker 1: I mean, as of the time of this recording, the

446
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 1: fight with Paula Costa is supposed to be in UFC

447
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 1: Twoity four and Perth has fallen through. They may rebook it,

448
00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 1: they may not, but I think one way or the other,

449
00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,120
Speaker 1: he's going to get next on that Izzy and Podta rematch,

450
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,720
Speaker 1: or even if Izzy wins, does he want to fight

451
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,119
Speaker 1: Rob again?

452
00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,080
Speaker 3: I seriously doubt that. I just feel like Robert.

453
00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 1: Has with waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, and if you're right

454
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 1: that Patta wins again, We've said this before, his worst

455
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 1: matchup is definitely Robert Whittaker. I don't know, man, Robert

456
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 1: Whitaker might get that belt one more time, and that

457
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 1: would be something to be that would really cement his

458
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 1: legacy at middleweight, would it not.

459
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 2: Well, you know, he's one of my favorite fighters. You know,

460
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 2: I like to refer to him as a living legend

461
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 2: for a reason, meaning it just so happened he had

462
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 2: out of Sonya in his weight class, in his time

463
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 2: and era, and you know, came so close in the rematch,

464
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker 2: but after legitimately getting crunched in the first fight. But yeah,

465
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think this is a great

466
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 2: prediction because there are ways that can happen. Meaning, you know,

467
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 2: they could do the rematch, and is he loses and

468
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,199
Speaker 2: then just says hey, I'm going to light heavyweight, or

469
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 2: is he could win and then say hey, I'm going

470
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 2: to light heavyweight for all we know, and it could

471
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 2: open the idea of a vacant belt, or is he

472
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 2: just goes I need more time before I come back.

473
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,719
Speaker 2: Anything can happen, obviously, you know, injuries all that stuff.

474
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 2: But if anything happens, Robert Whitaker's waiting next and you

475
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 2: know they'll put him in there against Pereira and it'll

476
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 2: be a very interesting test that he'll be face on

477
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 2: paper to win. So yeah, Luke, he's not gonna I

478
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 2: don't think he ever moves up to light heavyweight, and

479
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 2: if he ever did, had success, But I don't think it.

480
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 2: You know, I'd put a lot of money down if

481
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 2: you said, are you gonna bet before his career is

482
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 2: done that he holds that title again. He's gonna hold

483
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 2: it again. We'll come next year. Very well, could be,

484
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 2: But I think Johnny Eblin, Luke, and Bellatore is gonna

485
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,679
Speaker 2: stay unbeaten for this year and really show us how

486
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 2: good he can be. I'm looking forward to that. I

487
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 2: also am gonna have my eyes closely on Roman Dealedze,

488
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 2: who by then giving him Marvin Vettori and the UFC

489
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 2: side that shows that they believe he's ready for big things.

490
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 2: Could you imagine if the LEDs goes in there and like,

491
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,439
Speaker 2: let's say, stops forty, who is so insanely durable. Imagine

492
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 2: if that was the transaction that happened, you'd be talking,

493
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 2: oh shit, when do we match him up for a

494
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 2: title shot?

495
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

496
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 2: Or or like what? So he's common dude, and he

497
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 2: may end up knocking out one of your heroes on

498
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 2: the way to get there, so uh, you know, I

499
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 2: I don't you know, I'm not a super fan of

500
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 2: him by proxy, Luke, if you will, but I'm also

501
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 2: afraid of him, and you know he he tends to

502
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 2: hang around with one of my favorite fighters, So it's

503
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 2: just all coincidental at the end of the day.

504
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 3: So there's definitely that I'm going to add.

505
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 1: I think RoboCop Gregory Hadriguez, I think he finds his

506
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: way to the top fifteen over On the one side,

507
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 1: you know Roneriti Ridard lost his light heavyweight title, but

508
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: he still in the middleweight champ over there, so I

509
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 1: think he holds on to that also. B see, this

510
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: is a question for this division and the next one,

511
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 1: which is Hamsat Chamayev. Does he fight in twenty twenty

512
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: three he ad middleweight. If he does, I think he

513
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,959
Speaker 1: does pretty well, but I don't know if he's gonna

514
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: and what does that do to shake things up? So

515
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: those are all of the three things in addition to

516
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: Robert Whitaker's fortunes that I'm paying attention to there.

517
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 2: Luckily, luke Mi crystal Ball is the answer as we

518
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 2: transition to welterweight here. In terms of my prediction for

519
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 2: the year, it does involve Hamsat Chimayev. Look, I think

520
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: he could get a middleweight fight at any time, right.

521
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 2: If everybody got sick and they needed a challenge championship

522
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 2: contender last minute, it would be him. If you wanted

523
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 2: to do some weird coast to fight, it would be him, right.

524
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 2: But I think they're going to give him the chance

525
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 2: this calendar year to max out what he can do

526
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 2: at welterweight before it might become that he just can't

527
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 2: make that anymore, which is still you know, in play

528
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 2: after missing weight against an ideas by so much. But

529
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 2: my prediction is Luke that he wins the championship next year.

530
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I just don't see,

531
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 2: you know, from what we see. You can only go

532
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: on the eye test. You can only go from what

533
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 2: we've seen. But dude, from what you've seen in the cage,

534
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: you know, it's like I do start to believe that

535
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: that Burns fight was certainly Gilbert, you know, a legendary

536
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 2: warrior just going for it. But I also think Tremaiav

537
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I'll play this game with you. Let's

538
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: do this. Let's do it for the fans. I want

539
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 2: to show you how tough I am. I think when

540
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 2: he hones in on a title fight in this division,

541
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 2: and if he has to go through Covington first on

542
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 2: pay per view, or let's say Tomorrow gets hurt and

543
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: they put him right in with Lee, I mean, there's

544
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 2: a lot of scenarios here. Tomorrow wins back the title,

545
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: then fights Tremaiav. However the scenarios play out, we're doing

546
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: the show a year from now with tremiav is champion

547
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 2: at welterway, because I just can't imagine anyone beating him,

548
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: so I can't bet against that until I see it. Luke,

549
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 2: he had like, has anyone ever done this to us? Just?

550
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, maybe Boots Inis right now in boxing,

551
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: maybe that's the equivalent where you're just like, I know

552
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: what I'm seeing. I know I'm seeing somethingiculously special right here,

553
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: you know.

554
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: Fair enough.

555
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: I don't have one about Hamzah, but I got one

556
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: with a similar sounding name. I don't think he's gonna

557
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: win enough based on his current ranking position to win

558
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: a title, although that certainly could happen, but I think

559
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,719
Speaker 1: it's just inevitable Shotcott Rochmanov moves into the top three,

560
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: so he is on his way. I don't know who

561
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna beat, but he's gonna beat him. And I

562
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: think he's going to remain undefeated this next year, and

563
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: he will move into a position where either at the

564
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty three, probably more likely the beginning

565
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four, made the first, first or second

566
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: quarter there he's gonna fight for a UFC title. I

567
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 1: think that is just simply inevitable and coming down the line. Now,

568
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 1: I will say also in this division BC, two things

569
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: I'm watching. In one, Christian Lee had an amazing performance

570
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: to become a double champ over there at welterweight. I

571
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 1: don't think he holds on to it, though. I tend

572
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: to think that that is something. He will remain the

573
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 1: lightweight champion over there, but I don't think he's gonna

574
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: hold on to the welterweight one. It just seems like

575
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: a little bit of a bridge too far, given how

576
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: the first fight went with Abasov and everything else. Also, BC,

577
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: here's my prediction about this one. Ready, I don't think

578
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: Stage Northcutt comes back next year. And I don't think

579
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: he comes back ever. I think I think that's a wrap.

580
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 2: No, he's a he's a he's a professional fitness model

581
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 2: on ig Luke. And by the way, I don't think

582
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: anyone's ever put more time into to abs and stuff

583
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: than he'd. I mean, he's freakishly in shape, Luke. That's

584
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: a business model in twenty twenty three, right, like, just

585
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: don't come back, dude, don't come back.

586
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: What would be your face was shattered? Like what would

587
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: be the point anymore. If you can make money doing

588
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: something a lot safer, just go do that. You don't

589
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: need to prove anything to the rest of us. And

590
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: then lastly, BC, we can't have a conversation about waltzweight

591
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: without a big name. Yeah, Connor McGregor. Now, of course

592
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: he's rumored to be fighting Michael Chandler. That's what the

593
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 1: UFC wants. Anyway, that could happen at lightweight, but it

594
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: could just as easily happen at waltersweight.

595
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: The guys to well, okay, the middleweight is you know,

596
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 2: middleweight is a joke. Okay, I mean you talk about

597
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: matchup dependent, so the middleweight to joke. But the things

598
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: I'm watching echo right into that one of them. Luke,

599
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: I'm fearful for this, Okay, you know it's not past

600
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: the UFC. Let's say Usman gets hurt again and and

601
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: and it has to continue to delay his return, but

602
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: Ham's not get the call against Edwards. Of course, Horey

603
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: Masvidal also could Luke like in a London stadium as

604
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 2: like a setup for Leon to be the triumphant hero

605
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: at home against the guy who three pieced him, who's now.

606
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 3: In the UK. That happened in the UK.

607
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: But who's also now decidedly pasted it in Horie Masvidal. Luke,

608
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: this would be worse at the time, you know, timing wise,

609
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: if they went this way. Dude, this is worse than

610
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 2: Dan Hendo at forty six getting the BIS being you know,

611
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 2: rematch title shot. Uh. I don't put it past them

612
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: that they might do this. I hope they don't, Luke,

613
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 2: and I you know, I don't. I don't. You know.

614
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 2: It's just like when Jorge got the rematch with Tomorrow.

615
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: It was gratuitous at that point in my opinion. Okay,

616
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: now we're doing this too, so I'm watching that. I

617
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 2: think McGregor does return at welterweight, but I think he

618
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,479
Speaker 2: only fights once this year, Luke, and win or lose.

619
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna leave more questions and answered the

620
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 2: answers in his loan fight. That doesn't mean he's in

621
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: a shadow his leg again, but I just think that

622
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: like he will come back. We'll get all excited and

623
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: then it will you know, seriously, win or lose, it'll

624
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 2: be oh okay, but he's decidedly again past it. You know,

625
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 2: we're gonna find that out. In this fight, and I

626
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 2: fear that, Luke, because he's been so fun to watch.

627
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: My final thing to watch is this, look Dustin Pourier

628
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: could could still be in line to make his way

629
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: back to a lightweight title shot, especially given his name

630
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: and history at this point. But look, I think there's

631
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 2: a lot of like welterweight non connor pay per view

632
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: fights that will continue to slowly open up for him, right,

633
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: I mean, like if he gets the call and they

634
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: need an event and it's like, oh, yeah, we want

635
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: you to fight Mozvila, we want you to fight Colby.

636
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: Like these type of fights. Dude, Poier is in a

637
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: spot right now, Luke where he's already shown us more

638
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: times over than not that you know, this is the

639
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: road he'd rather go and make the big money and

640
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: be in these big fights than necessarily get back in

641
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: line and get mahchab. Do you know what I mean?

642
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, although he's not gonna fight mass at all, Is

643
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: that what you said?

644
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: I'm throwing that out as the type of idea I'm

645
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 2: talking about here, you know, like that type of fight

646
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: where maybe something falls through they you know, because who

647
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: do they call when something falls through? Do they call

648
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: people in the rich Franklin spot, which is Poier is

649
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 2: now in where you're still good enough and famous enough

650
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: where nobody would go crazy if you got a last

651
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: minute title shoto or whatever. But you're basically in the

652
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: bullpen waiting for them to use your brand in huge fights.

653
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 2: And that's not saying that Piers uh passed it, dude.

654
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: He just showed us how gritty and great he still

655
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: is against Chandler. But there's going to be money to

656
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: be made. Luke, He's he's in the spot. How to

657
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: make that so good for him?

658
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, fair enough?

659
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: We moved to the lightweight division, the division of Kings,

660
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: or at least the one that has been the Division

661
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: of Kings for the last few years. Anyway, BC, my prediction,

662
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: my big prediction for lightweight not a very, not a

663
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: very I don't know, not full of pomp and circumstance.

664
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: That's pretty straightforward.

665
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: I just don't see any way that Islam Makachev doesn't

666
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: finish the year as the lightweight champion.

667
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: I know, of course there could be.

668
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean, by the way, that Volkanovsky can't win

669
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: at two eighty four and then he has to get

670
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: revenge on him. I'm saying, here's my prediction. When twenty

671
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: twenty three closes, Makachev's wearing that belt.

672
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: What do you think, Yeah, well, not only will I

673
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: you know, stamp down on that and say you're right.

674
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: And that's the you know, it's an easy prediction, but

675
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: it's a good one. He's gonna be the pomp for

676
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,239
Speaker 2: pound king after he beats Volkanovski. So this is going

677
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: to be a monster year as he continues to weird

678
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: like show us he might actually be as great as

679
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: to be, Like that's not out of play yet, you

680
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like this is just I mean, look,

681
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: he's in a spot to show us greatness. My prediction,

682
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: look goes along with that below Mahachev on top. This

683
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: top five is going to get I think, completely overhauled.

684
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: Like the top five as we see it right now

685
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: in the rankings is not going to be the top five.

686
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: None of those guys are gonna be in the top

687
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: five at this point next year. And it's not some

688
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: bold prediction either when like this was the old division

689
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: of kings and those kings are aging, and when you age,

690
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: you either fall out of the rankings or you move

691
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: up to Walter wait and fight action fights. This is

692
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: the division where I think most maybe along with women's

693
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: flyweight right now under Valentina, where there's the most amount

694
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: of young talent that are coming the hell on right

695
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: now and appear ready. And I can't believe I'm saying

696
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: that about one twenty five for Valentina because just it

697
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: feels like an hour ago there was nobody for her

698
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: to fight. But there are young, you know, aggressive hungry

699
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: fighters coming on, and the same thing at lightweight. Dude,

700
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 2: those hammers are here. So both of our predictions I

701
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: think are obvious.

702
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: Luke, They're obvious, all right, So something I'm watching this

703
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: one also feels kind of obvious. But just as a reminder,

704
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: remember in twenty twenty three, Belatiore is supposed to be

705
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: doing a one fifty five a lightweight Grand Prix, which

706
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: if you look at some of the names in there,

707
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: it could be kind of fun. Aj McKee Tofique Musayev.

708
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: Obviously you can go a lot of different directions. BC,

709
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters. I think at the end

710
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: of the day, us Binderbrigamadev is gonna win all of

711
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: the fights in that tournament.

712
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: And he's gonna win the whole thing outright.

713
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it's gonna be easy, because I

714
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: don't actually think it's gonna be easy, But I think

715
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna get it done well.

716
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: Luke, I took your prediction on Maha Chev and just

717
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: that trumped it up by saying he'll also be the

718
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: best fighter in the sport. Uh Usman Omega Normaga. Madoff

719
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: may end up using twenty twenty three to become the

720
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: Bellatour pound for pound king en route to defending his title,

721
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: because look, in this tournament, he's gonna have to fight killers,

722
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: and look, I think the fight to make for Belatour

723
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: for next year is Usman versus AJ McKee. Like, oh

724
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: my god, the hardcore fan that is somewhere inside of me, Luke.

725
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: People think that, you know, the casual has pushed that out,

726
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: but I still hold in some hardcore in here, and

727
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: damn that's my hardcore super Bowl right there. You know

728
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: he does that he eventually, I mean, you know, like,

729
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: who knows he could end up playing Patricio one day.

730
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: They're gonna give him that chance to become that. He's

731
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: gonna be the best fighter in Bellatore, which I think

732
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: that is gonna make KBIB the best coach in the

733
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: world if both those things happen. But we'll get to

734
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: that later in this show.

735
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: All right, fair enough, we moved to the featherweight division.

736
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: Oh I had one more thing, Luke. I'll say one

737
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: sentence for m Charles Telivera is gonna turn back into

738
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: a punkin this year. And that doesn't mean he's gonna

739
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: get knocked out of consecutive fighters anything. I'm just saying this,

740
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: the greatness that we saw, I just don't think it's

741
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: sustainable because of the risk of all that the hot

742
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: streak is over. It doesn't mean he won't win a fight.

743
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean whatever. I just think he's gonna come

744
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: back down to earth at where you know what the

745
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: rest of his career is going to look like. So

746
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: don't don't shoot the messenger. But how could he keep

747
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: that hit going? Look?

748
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: How right? Fair enough? On to the featherweight division. BC.

749
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: I'll pitch to you first. Give me your big prediction

750
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty three in the one hundred and forty

751
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: five pound division.

752
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: All right, there's been eating at me because you know

753
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: I M Brian or take a super fan, right, I

754
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: just respect the guy alive. He makes the most fun

755
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: fights possible. What he eats at me, Luke is that

756
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: every time he does get another title shot or another

757
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: big fight, he puts on a damn near fight of

758
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: the year and his blood and guts. But you do question, like,

759
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: is that the best use of his skills or is

760
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: this the best use of his you know, long term

761
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: future in health or is he just that dude that

762
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: makes fun fights. Well he is that just that dude,

763
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: But look, he's also really happy in his life right now.

764
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: This seems to be like Domestic Bliss Brian Ortega coming through,

765
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: and I think, considering he's still young enough right now

766
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: at thirty one, that there's one more big run in

767
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: him where he finds a way to use that formula

768
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: and find the balance of the force a little bit better.

769
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: So my pick is Domestic Bliss feels Brian Ortega into

770
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: a revival in twenty twenty three where he works his

771
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: way into position for a third title shot. He's gonna

772
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: have to beat the very best. It seems he only

773
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: ever wants to fight the very best, and sometimes he

774
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: comes up just short. But look, I think he's gonna

775
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: figure out how to use his main best skill, his

776
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: jiu jitsu, as a weapon rather than as a hail mary.

777
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: And he's gonna rein in that lack of defense or

778
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: lack of intention on defense where he just walks straight

779
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: in on people and just goes mono imano. And if

780
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: he can do that, there's some subtitle matchups here where

781
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna surprise us. I think he has

782
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: a big year. But that's also just because I love

783
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: the guy Luke, So you know, I could be looking

784
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: through giant you know, coke bottle glasses here. They're all

785
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: fogged up, right, steamed up is the better way to

786
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: I put that.

787
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, b C, I don't have a great prediction for this,

788
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: although I do have some things I'm watching in twenty

789
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: twenty three I do want to talk about.

790
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 3: My prediction is pretty simple for twenty twenty three.

791
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 1: Dude Volkanovsky does not end that year as anything other

792
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: than the champion. He's so far ahead of the competition

793
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: at one forty five they cannot catch him. So let

794
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: me get to the two things I'm watching in twenty

795
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: twenty three, which to me is much more interesting. One BC,

796
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: what happens to Max Holloway. Does he stay at one

797
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: forty five? Does he go to one fifty five? Does

798
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: he retire? Doesn't seem like he's gonna retire, But what

799
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: is he gonna do? What is his path back? As

800
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: long as Volkanovsky's there? I don't I don't know how

801
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: this is gonna go. That's the first thing. The second

802
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: one is I think twenty twenty three stands the best

803
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: chance of being the year of Arnold Allen. It is

804
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: time for him, and he does appear ready for a

805
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: big step up in competition. Obviously, he didn't get a

806
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: chance to fully actualize that this year based on the

807
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: injury that happened fight to his opponent.

808
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: But you get what I'm saying. He is, he's ready,

809
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 3: He's ready for a move.

810
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: He has been diligently building his skills, but has been

811
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: something of like the Gary Russell of MMA, where he's

812
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: just not competing often enough despite how good he is

813
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: to really, you know, just truly advance through. I think

814
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: this year, with the UFC by the way traveling more

815
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: to the UK, the UK being a more of a hub,

816
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna get more looks, he's gonna get more chances,

817
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: and I think he's going to really elevate himself to

818
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: a title contender this coming year. By the way, the

819
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: UFC is looking for fresh matchups. I mean, we're gonna

820
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: get the winner of Josh Emmitt and obviously uh El Pantana.

821
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: The Rodriguez. Yeah who we're talking about?

822
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: Rodriguez? Who we're talking about? No, the god my brain

823
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: doesn't work this year.

824
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we're two washed, absolutely pathetic pieces of

825
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: garbage here that I can see.

826
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, here Rodriguez Rodriguez.

827
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: Okay, So I wasn't being racist. I was being right.

828
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 2: Thank you, you're being right now.

829
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 3: I wasn't accusing you of that, excusing you of being

830
00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 3: washed like me, But yeah.

831
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 2: I was washed the moment. I'm like, I think it's Rodriguez.

832
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: So we know Volknoski has to fight that, but he's

833
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: probably gonna fight one more time.

834
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: And who's it gonna be.

835
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna look for some fresh contenders, zombies out or

836
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: take it to your point, he's got some rebuilding to do.

837
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: Max has had three chances. They're gonna start going down

838
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: the list. I think Arnold Allen might really assert himself

839
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: this year to that position.

840
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: Until he gets tapped by or tag. I agree with you, Luke,

841
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 2: he should have a strong year a chance to prove it. Luke,

842
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be on the lookout for Shane Burgos and

843
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: the PFL if he can potentially make a run in

844
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: their featherweight tournament, which that's a fun division for the PFL.

845
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: Brendan Lockanane, right, Luke, that's the that's the same way

846
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: class connect correct.

847
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 3: Believe that's right.

848
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: Brendan Locknane had to go one war after another to

849
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: get to this point. So it'd be interesting to see

850
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: an action hero like Burgos, who, by the way, Dana White,

851
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 2: remember he said publicly that they they the plan was

852
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: to resign him, and basically Dana threw somebody under the

853
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: bus and said somebody fucked up and they didn't. So

854
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 2: you know, he's got he's got a lot left. Iliot

855
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: Tuporia obviously is coming on, Luke. I think he gets

856
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: a chance to clean out the old guard that's left

857
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: in the top ten. You know, like some of your

858
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: favorite fighters are, and they're inevitably going to be offered

859
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: a fight at him, and that's going to be their

860
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: biggest opportunity, and they're going to get knocked out. This

861
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,479
Speaker 2: guy's coming the hell on my wild card something I'm watching, Luke,

862
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: I don't wow. I kind of said the same thing

863
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: about Fador, but I just didn't believe that Josie al

864
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 2: Those really done when he was done, Luke, So you know,

865
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: could I see jose Although waking up this spring and

866
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: just feeling really good one day and being jack as

867
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: shit and looking around and going, you know what, I

868
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 2: should move back up to featherweight where I was the king,

869
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: and I should just make really fun you know, like

870
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: celebrity matchups that are wars. Yeah, for a lot of

871
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: money and respect, because this is how I'm wired and

872
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: this is what I do. Yeah, the King's going to

873
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: come back, Luke at one four or five? Okay, maybe

874
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 2: I Mentionine, if you rematch Connor at light Wait, god,

875
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 2: I love fun match making.

876
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: You know that'd be crazy, That'd be crazy, all right?

877
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: You would take me in a heartbeat, dude, You better

878
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: believe you would.

879
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: All Right.

880
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: We moved to the bantamweight division now, the true division

881
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: of kings at least currently a one thirty five BC.

882
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 1: I'll go first with my prediction, and again not exactly

883
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: sure how it happens here. Not exactly sure the mechanics

884
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: of it, but I'm a big believer in his ability.

885
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: I'm not a big believer in his comedy, but I'm

886
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: a big believer in his ability, even though I poo

887
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: poo to fight between him and Volcanowski, because I do

888
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: think he has some work to do. But I think

889
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: by the end of twenty twenty three, Henry Sujudo is

890
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: going to reclaim that belt. I think he is a

891
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: generational talent. I think he's extremely special, and it was

892
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: unfortunately he retired when he did, although I understand his circumstances.

893
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: It's unfortunate that he went to kadirov Son's birthday party.

894
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, abilities our abilities, and he's got them. I

895
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: think he's going to be your champ next year at

896
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: some point, probably towards the third or fourth quarter of

897
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: the year, but I think he gets it done.

898
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: What do you think that should be a lot of

899
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: Eric Alberasin on the timeline.

900
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, tons of tons of Captain America, by the way,

901
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: not Captain America. He's Captain America's right. That's what they

902
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 1: call the North South America Americas. So he's Captain America's.

903
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this, this division for me is the

904
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: hardest to predict who ends next year as the champion,

905
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: not just because it's the deepest and best division at

906
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: the moment, but because it seems like a lot of

907
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: these potential matchups that are in flux, and because of

908
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: O'Malley having won the big fight with Yan, he could

909
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: lap everybody and get the shot. So I don't know

910
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen next I don't. I cannot though. You know,

911
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 2: It's like, did I did I pick against the hudo

912
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: in almost like every single one of those big fights

913
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: before he walked away? Yeah, like I was, he had

914
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: to prove it to me in historical context, to show

915
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: me how great he is. Yeah, he's great, Luke. I'm

916
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: gonna give him that chance like you, to prove it.

917
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if he reclaims the title, but my

918
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 2: prediction is this, whether it comes in the title form,

919
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 2: interim title form, or just a grudge rematch. Cheeto Vera

920
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: stays being Sean O'Malley's kyptonite. Luke, I just feel like

921
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: the meanness where he's at in his career, and I think, look,

922
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: could O'Malley win the championship. Absolutely could, but you know, yeah,

923
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: there's still things. Sean Omalley has not fully shown us

924
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: on this elite level, and no one's gonna forget the

925
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: way that Veri fight ended and how it ended. So

926
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: Vera's even better and hotter and angrier than he was then, Luke,

927
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 2: it could happen and in the championship. But I mean

928
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: that's the thing. Chio Vera could be your champion, dude.

929
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: People could get hurt and Morob could become champion. Like,

930
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 2: you don't know what's gonna happen here. Cory Sandagan's still alive,

931
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, watch out.

932
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 1: It's so many dynamic, rising, surging, incredible contenders in this division.

933
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 3: Tell you something else I'm watching in this division. BC.

934
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 1: First thing, I don't think Sergio Pettis ends twenty twenty

935
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: three as the Bell Tour champ. It's either going to

936
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: be Ralphie on Stattz or you know, dude, Patchi mix

937
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: looked so good in his last fight, it might be him.

938
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: But either way, I think one of them has got

939
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: Sergio's number. I think they end that Also, small little

940
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: thing you didn't get a chance to fully have it

941
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 1: actualized between Frisio Androge and John Lineker in one because

942
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: of the whole thing ended up in a bit of

943
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: a disaster. But I think by the time the year

944
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: ends for Risio Androge is going to be your champion

945
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: over and over in one for the bantamwaite division.

946
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: Not a bad pick I'm looking for PATCHI mix the

947
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: same look. I think he just keeps winning this calendar year,

948
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: and that could end up being one million dollars the championship.

949
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 2: You know, if he wins a tournament and then beats Pettis.

950
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 2: I mean, god, can you imagine him. Imagine if Patricio

951
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 2: ever did fully cut down and to thirty five and

952
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: then it was him and PATCHI dude, PATCHI could just

953
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: stay winning right now. I mean, he could be on

954
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: one of those runs. We'll see what happens. Also, I

955
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: think al Joe and Morob are gonna end up staying

956
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: friends because this the uncertainty atop the division. Like al

957
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: Jo could run the table. Who knows, We have no

958
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 2: freaking idea. But I think it's just dude, any fight

959
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: here the belt could go, so uh, al Joe won't

960
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 2: to end up having to fight Morob for the title.

961
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, do you think Morob gets the title level?

962
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: He's good enough, Luke.

963
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing he's got, Like he's got

964
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: a couple of like the really important qualities. He can

965
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: wrestle obviously, and his cardio is maybe truly I'm not

966
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: even doing a bit, maybe the best I've ever seen

967
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: in the.

968
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: He's a dog too, He's an absolutely yeah, and.

969
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: He's tough as shit, So like all of those things

970
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: really put him in contention. I just wonder, like against Jose,

971
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: he couldn't really do a whole lot, plus it was

972
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: at elevation, you know, like there's some fine tuning of

973
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: his But if he fine tunes it this next year,

974
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna be tough to beat. He's gonna be tough

975
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: to beat all right at the flyweight division.

976
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 3: BC.

977
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: You go first, give me your big prediction for the

978
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: men's one twenty five division.

979
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty three, I.

980
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 2: Said bannamweight was a division that's hardest to predict who

981
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: ends holding the title. I think the easiest division that

982
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 2: to predict will be the hot potato division maybe outside

983
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: of men's light heavyweight, with that bell could change hands

984
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: multiple times this coming calendar year. My prediction is that

985
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: three different fighters end up being UFC flyweight Champion by

986
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: the close of the year. So that would be Figuredo

987
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: coming into the fourth fight with Moreno, which, look, we

988
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: asked a lot about Figuredo in the third fight at

989
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: thirty four to you know, stay in a division that

990
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: he could barely make the weight and try to go

991
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: in there against a guy that just stopped. Imagine if

992
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: Moreno wins it, and then imagine Luke. If Moreno fights

993
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: KK France in a rematch, fights who else is coming on?

994
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: I mean, this division's got some good names in it.

995
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 2: In the moment that that are you know, there's parody

996
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: for sure, but that parody plays into the possibility that

997
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: raw Dog ro Nikolau, who's on that win streak, Luke,

998
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: anybody could be coming on here. So I like the

999
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: craziness of the division. The other things I'm watching quickly

1000
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: is where does Askar Askarov end up signing? Unless he

1001
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: signed somewhere and I missed it because he left on

1002
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: his own terms, he could be a plus for any

1003
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: other global federation that has good flyweights and raw Dog

1004
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: Royvale in particular Luke Brandon Royville, who has a very exciting, flashy,

1005
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: well rounded game, but loves to fight and I think

1006
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 2: sometimes gets too crazy. If he could turn back the

1007
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: raw dog a little, I think he may under turn

1008
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: in the corner this year and becoming a fixture in

1009
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 2: these rankings and and you know, putting himself in position

1010
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: to fight for that title. So I'm expecting a big

1011
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: year from him, Luke, because it's in him. He's long,

1012
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: he can sub you. But dude, he I think he

1013
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: plays the like me on this show. Luke. You know

1014
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: what I mean? You say, All I do is play

1015
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: to the fans. All I do is try to pick

1016
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: up on what they don't like about you and exploit

1017
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: it like some disingenuous friend.

1018
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 3: Luke. Yeah, that is what you do.

1019
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: It's kind of accurate. It is, all right, I'm sorry,

1020
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,280
Speaker 2: you know. All I can do, Luke is asked for

1021
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: forgiveness after the fact, after we win all the awards,

1022
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 2: after the fact, you know.

1023
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, we win the awards, you're forgiven. How about that

1024
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: we don't win shit? Yeah, we're fighting, that's all right, Yeah,

1025
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: all right, let's go to the By the way, for me,

1026
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: I don't have much at bantam weight to excuse to

1027
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: be a fly weight to say, except this again, our

1028
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: predictions are slightly different, but may end up in the

1029
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: same place. I think by the end of twenty twenty three,

1030
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 1: Figuredo goes to bantamweight. Now he might start the year

1031
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: at flyweight, but by the end of it he's up

1032
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: to another division. I think his ability to cut down

1033
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 1: to this weight class, and especially if Moreno beats him,

1034
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: I think I think he just moves on. It's gonna

1035
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,479
Speaker 1: be too much for him either way.

1036
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: Also something to pay attention to.

1037
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: They've kind of downplayed it in the media, being like, oh,

1038
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: it's no big deal, which I just don't believe at all.

1039
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 1: But what does Brandon Marina look like after the departure

1040
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: from James Krause, Like how do all these guys manage?

1041
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: And Brandon Morena was something of the golden child over

1042
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: at Glory MM and Fitness in this lat latest chapter

1043
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: of it, prior to all of these incidents around betting

1044
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: being involved. So I'd be curious to see what that

1045
00:44:59,000 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: looks like.

1046
00:44:59,400 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: The very cure.

1047
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: All right, BC, let's go to the women's division. Now,

1048
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to group these together, these two divisions together,

1049
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: because I just don't know what to say about either

1050
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: of them. So let's let's talk about Women's one fifty

1051
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: five because it is a division that at least got

1052
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: some news, and Women's one forty five. Let's talk about

1053
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: them together. Do you have any big predictions for twenty

1054
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: twenty three for Women's one forty five and Women's one

1055
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: fifty five.

1056
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: One fifty five. I think it's a slam dunk one

1057
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: that this is going to be Kayla Harrison's last year

1058
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: with the PFL. So that may that may be the

1059
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: fourth fight against Pachaco. You know, maybe they eschew the

1060
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: tournament format and just run that as a pay per

1061
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: view rematch for the belt and then whether or not

1062
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: you get cybored to close the year or whatever. They

1063
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: don't have anything to keep her there. Look, I don't

1064
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: think they I don't think they do. Outside of the million. No,

1065
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 2: I don't don't play the million or how intelligent that

1066
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: cage might be. But uh, there's history at play, and

1067
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: Kyla's actually not twenty five luke. Isn't she like like

1068
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: I mean, she's in the midst of her prime right now.

1069
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, remember she remember she has two Olympic medals, So

1070
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: that's just an eight year cycle.

1071
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: Let me let me double check. I think she's thirty two.

1072
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean it's it's time. She knows it's time.

1073
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: Could could the division stay alive after that? In the

1074
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: PFL maybe because it's been going for a few years

1075
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 2: and they've been cultivating talent and Pataikoe seems to be

1076
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: absolutely legit. But Luke, it folds into my prediction for

1077
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: featherweight two. Dude, I don't think they ever even have

1078
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: a UFC women's featherweight title fight this year. I think

1079
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: Nunias has the potential to be tied up. You know

1080
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: too much at thirty five that there's no rankings on

1081
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: the site. We always make that joke. So I don't

1082
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 2: know if if Kayla leaves after next year, I don't

1083
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 2: know if they do a PFL Women's one fifty five anymore.

1084
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: I don't even think they do a UFC one forty

1085
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: five anymore. I do think it's still in play that

1086
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: if Kayla goes to UFC in twenty twenty four, that

1087
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: somebody gets my idea and I'm sure others have had

1088
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: it too about the women's heavyweight catch all division. I

1089
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: think that's very possible because I don't know how else

1090
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: you're gonna make Kayla, who she's supposed to be in

1091
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: Division forty five, which he says, I can make, like

1092
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 2: you know, once in a while for big fights. But

1093
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: so I think that all plays in where you'll you

1094
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: will see huge upheaval in these outside divisions, meaning outside

1095
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: of one fifteen, which is always stacked in looaded one

1096
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 2: twenty five, which is starting to, you know, become something now,

1097
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, unless they do women's heavywey,

1098
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: these divisions may only pop up or down based on

1099
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: star power, Luke. And if you know these things, meaning

1100
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: Kayla and Amanda, shifting organizations or divisions is gonna play

1101
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 2: into whether there's a future there. There's no future at

1102
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: one forty five for UFC females unless they go heavyweight, Luke.

1103
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 2: That's the only future there.

1104
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so one fifty five mine is almost exactly the

1105
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: same as yours. Kayla is probably gonna beat Pacheco and

1106
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: then that's going to be it, right, So that she's

1107
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: gonna be gone one forty five is a little bit

1108
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: more interesting to me because if Kayla doesn't end up

1109
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: there right at back of the UFC, not backers should

1110
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: say at UFC, what they're gonna do is they're just

1111
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,479
Speaker 1: gonna wait till Amanda Nenez retires and then close the division. Right,

1112
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: that's I completely agree. They're not going to have a

1113
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: heart mate again. If Kayla doesn't show up, they're not

1114
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: gonna have a one forty five pound fight. They're all

1115
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. And then if Amanda calls it a day,

1116
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: which she may or may not, but they're just gonna

1117
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: they're gonna close the division. If she ends up there,

1118
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: that changes it. But here's the thing that sort of

1119
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: factor NBC. I wonder about this. If the UFC doesn't

1120
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: really have any designs on one forty five, would they

1121
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: really keep it around just to make one fight, especially

1122
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: now that Kayla is not undefeated any longer.

1123
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 3: Maybe.

1124
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: But what I think could really end up happening is,

1125
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 1: remember I think Bellator made a big pitch and push.

1126
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: Maybe I think they did make an offer for Kayla.

1127
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: What I tend to think might happen here is Kayla

1128
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: might beat Larisa Larisa and get out of PFL.

1129
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 3: UFC just says we're just.

1130
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: Not in this business anymore, and then she actually ends

1131
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: up in Bellatoor in which case the one point five

1132
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: is closed in UFC, but then they can make good

1133
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: use of her, Like, dude, here's the truth about it,

1134
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: Scott Kocher, And what that what the Bellatour model does

1135
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: is better suited for Kayla in terms of catering to

1136
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: her interests long term.

1137
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: I mean Scott Coker and Scott Coker gave Ronda Rousey

1138
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: the platform and helped promote her to get her UFC

1139
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: ready to take that leap and open up the you know,

1140
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: women's fighting the UFC. So could you imagine if that's

1141
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: an interesting scenario that I never thought about until you

1142
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: just mentioned it, that what if UFC does go forward

1143
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: with these other you know, predictions we're making, shut that

1144
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: ship down. Say I'm sorry, Kayla, you know, unless you

1145
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 2: can make one fifteen, we don't have a big fight

1146
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: for you. Imagine Cyborg versus Kaylon CBS Luke. Seriously imagine that.

1147
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: Imagine you know you could that Kayla is is not

1148
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 2: exactly Ronda. No one's saying that, but in the Ronde

1149
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: Ballpark in some ways accomplishments for legitimacy. Of course, imagine

1150
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: if that's the fight you put to casuals and try

1151
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 2: to you know that of course, Yeah, Brillon, Oh, I

1152
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: can't wait to hear what Tukes thinks about it.

1153
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I had to lock that door, sorry, barge In.

1154
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: I also say Harrison Kila Harrison is a dream matchup for.

1155
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 3: Well, I should say this. She's a dream setup to

1156
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 3: be on CBS.

1157
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: Two time Olympian, greatest judoka in American history, you know,

1158
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: almost not quite undefeated, but you know this decorated athletic past,

1159
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: and you know she's not She's good on camera and

1160
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: all the stuff that we know about her.

1161
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 3: Dude, that is a great matchup on exactly who they want.

1162
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: Think about the synergy there, if that if that's a

1163
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: direction Scott Cooker ended up going, and we're just putting

1164
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 2: fantasy ideas out there, like he made Scott Cooker made

1165
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 2: Corono versus Cyborg, you know, I mean, like Cyborg is

1166
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: such a legend that she was in the first fight

1167
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: that was thrown to the masses on a crossover level,

1168
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 2: and she could be in you know, all these friggin

1169
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 2: years later, she could still be just as strong of

1170
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 2: a brand to kind of give the pro wrestling rub

1171
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: to Kayla Harrison potentially. I mean, there's that's that's that's

1172
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 2: central booking, Luke. That I mean, that's that's that's a

1173
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: beautiful calm around full circle there, you know.

1174
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 3: All right, let's talk now about.

1175
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: Too quick, Luke, quickly. I'm watching espin. Lad doesn't have

1176
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 2: a division in PFL. We gotta be really honest with ourselves.

1177
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: She can't make thirty five anymore. There's no forty five

1178
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: division in PFL, and maybe they use her as the

1179
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: fallback for Kayla's second pay per view opponent next year,

1180
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 2: which no one's buying. I'm sorry, I don't know what

1181
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 2: esmen Lad's going to do with PFL. Luke. I guess

1182
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 2: joined the fifty five tournament, but I don't know. The

1183
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: Other thing is this Arlen Blencoe, you know, one of

1184
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: my favorite fighters in Bellator just signed what you know,

1185
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: another contract, Luke, and she went to war in that

1186
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: rematch with Cyborg, and I think liked it. Be on

1187
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 2: the lookout if they end up making Blunco versus shanaide

1188
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 2: Kevanaugh two. Imagine if they put that in Dublin. They

1189
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: fought once Blenco won in a close fight, that fight

1190
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: would be a war. That's a little BC sloppy special

1191
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 2: on the radar that could happen, Luke, Okay.

1192
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the real center of the

1193
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: bullseye in women's MMA. All right, I get closer to

1194
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: it anyway. How about a bantamweight division. B see, I'll

1195
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: go first for twenty twenty three bantamwaight division women's division.

1196
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: Here we're talking about for predictions. This one seems to

1197
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: me like a no brainer. I think they're gonna make

1198
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: They're gonna move heaven and earth to make Amanda new

1199
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: Nes versus Valentina Shipchenko three. I just feel like, you know, again,

1200
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: maybe Amanda doesn't want it, and maybe he should poop

1201
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: poos it, But I really really believe UFC wants to

1202
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: see this a third time. They're gonna make a push

1203
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: for it, and I tend to think that in the end,

1204
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: the gravitational pull and significance of this fight will force

1205
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: the principal actors in place to get it done.

1206
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: Not only do I agree with that, even though I'm

1207
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: sure I've predicted that in the last four years and

1208
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 2: it just didn't happen. But I will add to that, Luke,

1209
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 2: that my prediction is Amanda Newness accepts two trilogy fights

1210
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three and both bandam weight. So to

1211
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 2: be fair here, Juliana Pain is the only one that

1212
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: I think is even talking about the idea of a

1213
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: third Newness fight. But imagine this scenario. You know, the

1214
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 2: UFC loves Juliana. She's I mean, god, she's a great

1215
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: ambassador of the sport. And her victory over Amanda in

1216
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: the first fight, even though she got dominated in the second,

1217
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 2: was just one of those storybook ones. Imagine if Juliana

1218
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 2: comes back in a big fight. I know, for example,

1219
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: Holly Holm has Yana Kunitzkaya coming up, but imagine Holly

1220
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 2: Holme level fight, Juliana wins that she's right back in

1221
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: the title picture. Imagine if Amanda goes fights Valentina third

1222
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 2: time but wins. Could they close the year with that, Luke, Yeah,

1223
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 2: they could, they very much, could you know Peyna versus

1224
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: Amanda three? Who knows? So that's not impossible to get

1225
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 2: two trilogies. Holly Holm will probably stay ranked for the

1226
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: twenty fifth straight year at this division, Luke, bandamwaight, if

1227
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: they'll have her, I mean she may be you know

1228
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 2: Kunitskaya for all we know. And my other uh oh,

1229
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 2: that's all I got. You got anything else for band.

1230
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: Way, No, not for in terms of things I'm watching,

1231
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: but I do have one for the next division, if

1232
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: we can talk about it. All right, So last week

1233
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: we broke the news that at least what Aaron Blanchfield

1234
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: told us, well, she told us she was gonna be

1235
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: fighting Tyler Santo's in February. Here's my prediction, b see,

1236
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Blanchfield is gonna have a title shot in twenty

1237
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: twenty three. I'm not gonna make a prediction beyond that.

1238
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: And when I here's the way I worded it when

1239
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: I wrote these to our producer, She's gonna earn a

1240
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: title shot in twenty twenty three. So she may not

1241
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: actually get the fight itself in twenty twenty three, but

1242
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: by the time the year closes, it'll be clear she's

1243
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: the number one contender and she's ready for that. The

1244
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: UFC has designated her in that position. Do you agree

1245
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: or disagree?

1246
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 3: Where are you? Oh?

1247
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: Look, I wouldn't have guessed that she would get the

1248
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: call ready for Tyler Santos, who's coming off, you know,

1249
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 2: pushing chev to the limit there. I hate when people

1250
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 2: call her Chev or Chevy like that's so, that's so lame.

1251
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 2: Luke put some respect on that chev Chenko name. So yeah,

1252
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 2: I'm fully in agreeance on that, Luke. Ultimately, that Blanche

1253
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 2: Field if she beats her, and she damn she's not

1254
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: nervous at all. I mean, if she goes out there

1255
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: beats Tyler Snato, she's gonna fight for the title, absolutely, Luke.

1256
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: And she's young, and they would they you know, she's

1257
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: coming on. My prediction as it pertains to Women's Flyway

1258
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 2: is again, can't believe I'm saying this, but I'll fully

1259
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 2: put it out there. Women's Flyway next calendar year begins

1260
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: to legitimately rival one to one five Strawwaight as the

1261
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 2: best women's division in UFC, And I understand crazy crazy, Well,

1262
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 2: what does a great division need? It needs certainly the

1263
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: threat of multiple potential champions, which Strawaight always has. It

1264
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 2: needs the consistency of making great fights. I think, look,

1265
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: we've seen some really good fights at one twenty five

1266
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 2: that doesn't get that stamp always of Look, Strawwaight once

1267
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: again comes through. But when you look at the top

1268
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 2: fifteen right now, Seriously, just six months ago it felt

1269
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: like it was Valentina and nobody else the top fifteen

1270
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,720
Speaker 2: right now, from Minol Farroh at number one, who's coming

1271
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 2: to Helan to Santos to division stalwarts like Chikajian, Murphy

1272
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,479
Speaker 2: Andrage's moonlighting In this division. You've got Grosso who's moving

1273
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 2: into position, Araujo Maya's a tough out, and you even

1274
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 2: go down to Blanchfield, King Ksey O'Neil, Macy, Barber, Tracy Cortes,

1275
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: Amanda Heboss in play. Look, those are building blocks for

1276
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 2: the future, but it seems like that future is like

1277
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 2: now and there are fun.

1278
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 3: Fight You forgot a key name. I believe you forgot it.

1279
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: Forget name.

1280
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: This was my thing to watch in this division, which

1281
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: only serves your argument. The return of Tatiana Suarez. She

1282
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: could come back to this division and absolutely now we

1283
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: don't know she's been out for so long, she had

1284
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: the neck issue and everything, But dude, if she comes back,

1285
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: she might just hammer through everybody along the way.

1286
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: And look, I don't think pound for pound talent for

1287
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 2: talent one twenty five is as accomplished or as good

1288
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: as what we see in one fifteen. But some of

1289
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: these one fifteen ers, like Heboss and Andraja are moving

1290
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 2: up because you can get a shorter path to big opportunity. Dude,

1291
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 2: One twenty five's fun, That's all I'm gonna say. At

1292
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: end of the day, it's gonna end up rival in

1293
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: one fifteen. So you're right about Suarez. I hope this

1294
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: is finally the year. Look what do you have on

1295
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: the best women's division that ever happened? One one fifteen?

1296
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 2: What do you got here?

1297
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to it, Strawway. I don't have

1298
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: a great prediction because one, it's partly unpredictable. I think

1299
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: two it's due for some turnover in certain places, except

1300
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: at the top. When you just look down that roster.

1301
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean, there's great fighters everywhere at one point fifteen,

1302
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: But the way that Jeong Wi Lee has been looking,

1303
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: I just don't know who the hell is gonna beat her.

1304
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: Of course we always say that, and there's these crazy

1305
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: upsets at MMA.

1306
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 3: But my prediction for twenty twenty three is, dude.

1307
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: She's gonna remain the champion in that weight class, even

1308
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: if she has another fight with Rose or whatever the

1309
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: case may be. That she is better athletically, she's so

1310
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: much more well rounded now she can wrestle. She has

1311
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: legitimate subs. Her ground and pound is terrifying. We always

1312
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: knew she was good on the feet, fast, athletic. I mean,

1313
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: I could go on and on about her. Jean Wilee

1314
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: is the best in class at one fifteen, and that's

1315
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: not going to change in the next year.

1316
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, my prediction forces that to change. My prediction.

1317
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: No surprise to anyone listening to this show is that

1318
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: rosnama Unis is still the motherfucking best. And I don't

1319
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: mean to start sounding like Pat Barry with his theory

1320
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: on like every three or four fights this happens. But

1321
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: if you look over Rose's career, every three or four fights, Luke,

1322
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 2: she goes from dominant wins in a row to one

1323
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 2: where you know she just barely loses, like the split

1324
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 2: decision against Carolina when there was upheaval in her personal

1325
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 2: life at the time, or one's like getting dropped on

1326
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 2: her head, or just this one against the rematch with Carlo,

1327
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 2: where look, you know you can't forgive her for that.

1328
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 2: It was an awful fight, in an awful game plan

1329
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: and performance. There's a lot that's awful about it. But Luke,

1330
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: she has that ability when she figures it out and

1331
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 2: puts it together to be better than anybody else. So

1332
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: the reason in particular why I believe I would give

1333
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: her the edge against, like you said, somebody like Jong Wylie,

1334
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: who is as scary as she's ever been and is

1335
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: proving that she's got like all time great metal in her,

1336
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: like she's a legit, like she is that that woman.

1337
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 2: You know, she's that chick. But is there one hole

1338
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 2: in John Willy's game on the elite level. I think

1339
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: it's her defense, Luke, which is why that Yo Wanna

1340
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 2: fight was somewhat surprisingly that close, that first one, that

1341
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 2: blood and guts war Rose, I mean, wise accuracy can

1342
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 2: peace Jong up and has done it, Luke in two

1343
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: different fights in various ways. Second fight very close. Yes,

1344
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 2: you can make an argument for way Lee on the scorecards,

1345
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 2: but dude, Rose just has her number in the striking

1346
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 2: and I think they'll always make close fights together and

1347
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: Rose will win it. So I'm looking for a big

1348
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: one out of the thug once more, because that's what

1349
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 2: she does. I'm also going to be looking Luke to

1350
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 2: see if Mackenzie durn can figure out her own striking issue.

1351
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: If she can she's a title threat. She's an absolute

1352
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 2: title threat. She's certainly a title threat in a Brian

1353
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 2: or takeaway in any matchup at any given time if

1354
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 2: it goes her way. But if she doesn't figure it out, Luke,

1355
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 2: she's never gonna max out. I mean, is it.

1356
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: But it's not just her striking. I did a tape

1357
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: study on her from my personal channel. Her ground and

1358
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: pound is a major problem, a major problem. There's a

1359
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: lot of ways to make the argument, but I'll simplify

1360
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: it in this way. She likes a lot of positions

1361
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: that make a transition to the submission quicker right. So

1362
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: she'll ride very high on the back, but you're riding

1363
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: high on the back, for example, you're unstable. So to

1364
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: stable herself she'll plant her forehead into the mat and

1365
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: then kind of punch. But these are mechanically not advantageous

1366
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: positions from which to punch with at all.

1367
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 3: You know what you need.

1368
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: You need that Roman Delidese style where you have them.

1369
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: You can drive hips into them. You can control a

1370
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: wrist and then really begin to unload on your powerhand,

1371
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: whatever side that may be. That is a mechanically advantageous position.

1372
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: Be see, she's still in her mind in terms of

1373
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:32,479
Speaker 1: how she strategizes positions. Hasn't gotten out of thinking about

1374
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: it in a very ju jitsu centric way, And I

1375
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: think if she wants to go to the next level, yes, striking,

1376
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: of course, the fight start on the feet, but let's

1377
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: get her ground and pound up to speed. If you

1378
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: do that, it's going to open up so many more

1379
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: avenues for her on the ground.

1380
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 2: I think she's too naturally talented, and she has very

1381
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 2: good intangibles like her toughness in her drive that I

1382
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 2: think she's too good not to have a run where

1383
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 2: she figures it out. I just wonder if it's going

1384
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: to happen next. I mean, you can argue that doesn't

1385
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: have as soon it never will. But I don't know again,

1386
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: is it is it? You know? Does she need to

1387
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 2: game plan better, does she need to commit more? I

1388
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: don't know, whatever it is, Luke, I think she's gonna

1389
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 2: figure it out eventually. It's just will it be too

1390
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 2: late by that time? Who knows? We'll see, Luke. We

1391
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: got to close with what what do we gotta here?

1392
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: Some combat sports?

1393
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: Uh?

1394
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 2: Prediction angles? Story?

1395
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, singles, watch, I'm gonna pitch five at you and

1396
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: you tell me how significant or real they are for

1397
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three.

1398
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 2: He sports in general, these are the biggest headlines.

1399
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: Right yeah, combat sports in general. All right, Okay, go ahead,

1400
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: here's one. Are you are you buying? Are you selling?

1401
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: Nate Daz boxing Jake Paul in pay per view?

1402
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sell that, Luke. It seems like the fight

1403
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 2: to make for sure, But I just I don't know.

1404
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: I wonder just as we looked at Jake boxing against Anderson,

1405
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 2: were like, damn, he did get better, and you know

1406
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 2: what I mean in like in this silo, he's young,

1407
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 2: hungry and tough man. That's not a great fight for Nadz.

1408
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I think Nate's gonna

1409
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 2: look around and go, you know what, I have other

1410
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 2: ways to make money. There's other things I can do

1411
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 2: in the fight space, necessarily the needing to go all

1412
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 2: in on this or nothing. For all we know, he

1413
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 2: could end up back in you get news that he

1414
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 2: resigned for one fight with the UFC to trilogy Connor,

1415
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 2: who knows. So I think Jake's more likely to go

1416
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 2: to Tommy Fury Road and then we'll see where we

1417
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 2: go from there. But I'm gonna sell on that, Luke,

1418
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 2: and I can't believe, like because just you know, even

1419
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 2: like the day of the Silva fight, if you would

1420
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 2: ask me, BC, would you be fired up next for

1421
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 2: Nate versus Jake, It's like, damn right, I would. Let's

1422
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 2: see some trash dog. Let's do it. But that fight's

1423
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 2: not gonna be great, right.

1424
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: I think Jake wins it if they do have it,

1425
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: all right. Number two Gravante Davis versus Ryan Garcia. Now

1426
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: we don't even know if it's gonna happen because of

1427
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: course Gravante has court issues. He has a trial in February,

1428
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: and hello, he has to fight in DC in January.

1429
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: But let's assume that they actually do make it, it

1430
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: actually reaches the finish line. Where are you on it

1431
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: selling a million pay per view buys?

1432
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, buy huge that it will happen,

1433
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,479
Speaker 2: because don't forget, Ryan Garcia just turned off the idea

1434
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 2: of a January twenty eighth, stay busy fight to get ready.

1435
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 2: So I think we're gonna see it. Yeah. I think

1436
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 2: it does more pay per view bys than people realize,

1437
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 2: because like, this is the fight in boxing that we

1438
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 2: don't get enough of these because boxing has so many

1439
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 2: entities that are opposite each other naturally from a business sense, networks, promoters,

1440
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 2: and we tend to see them typically only come together

1441
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 2: when fighters are older, more established, their brands have been

1442
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 2: more built up, and there's sort of the storyline want

1443
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 2: like there was for Pai Machio, Mayweather Pacquiao, and also

1444
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 2: like there is right now for Spence versus Crawford. But

1445
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 2: obviously the Spence Crawford problem is they're gonna be like

1446
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 2: thirty five soon. These guys are young enough they have

1447
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 2: their own fan bases that are almost separate from boxing

1448
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 2: because of how much they cross over in pop culture

1449
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 2: on social media, have relationships with some big you know,

1450
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 2: big stars in the acting music game, all that stuff.

1451
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 2: I think this does like the potential for like one five,

1452
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, one in this era one million pay

1453
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 2: per view buys and the streaming era is is very impressive.

1454
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 2: One million pay per view buys in the Mayweather Pacquiao

1455
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 2: era was very impressive. One and a half in this

1456
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 2: era when not involving like Floyd and Connor, dude, you know,

1457
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 2: not involving like a fantasy circus matchup. This is like

1458
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 2: a rare bird right now, and I think you'll see

1459
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 2: it and it will do very well.

1460
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: Okay, Number three BC, what happens with the U I'm

1461
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: just gonna call it this, but what happens with the

1462
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: UFC's James Krause problem in twenty twenty three one. They

1463
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: don't just mean James Krause. I mean all of the

1464
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: ways in which it affects the rest of the business.

1465
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 2: I mean Dani's finally being honest. I don't know if

1466
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 2: you saw that sit down and interviewed did with Okamota

1467
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: we're in the pass. He was sort of like, no,

1468
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 2: this won't be a big deal. Now he's like, no,

1469
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 2: this is absolutely potentially, you know, massively destructive. That's why

1470
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna nip it in the bud. They're gonna go

1471
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 2: after whoever they end up find at the conclusion of

1472
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 2: the investigation, whether it's you know, min Or, or whether it's Kraus,

1473
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 2: or whether those guys really didn't do anything. We don't

1474
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 2: know yet, Luke. Okay, but whoever had any connectivity to

1475
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 2: this is going to get hammered out, shoeless Joe Jackson style,

1476
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,439
Speaker 2: so that nothing ever actually happens again. So this will

1477
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 2: be a big headline that will have long term things.

1478
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 2: I just think that in some ways, maybe it came

1479
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 2: at the right time and had a big enough name

1480
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 2: in an established coach and former fighter in Kraus where

1481
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 2: everyone took it seriously enough so that this won't happened

1482
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 2: a year from now involving like a active champion who

1483
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 2: may or may not be suspected of, like you know,

1484
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 2: fixing a fight. That's when it goes to like you

1485
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 2: can't fix it levels. This may be perfect timing for

1486
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 2: UFC that happened at this level they put in all

1487
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 2: the sanctioning. Now, all the eyes are open, the fighters

1488
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 2: are aware, the coaches are where you can f up

1489
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 2: your entire career in one time getting caught in this

1490
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 2: don't touch it. That's what I think plays out.

1491
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 3: With number four.

1492
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 1: I actually feel like we're gonna see some big women's

1493
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: boxing fights in twenty twenty three. I think we're due

1494
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: for a Serrano Taylor rematch. You could do who's at

1495
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: Marshall and Shields again. You could do even Mayor and

1496
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: Bumgarner again. Right, Like, there's a bunch of different ways.

1497
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: Now those are all rematches, they're not organic fresh new matchups.

1498
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: The BC women's boxing had a pretty good year in

1499
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Oh great, I think that's only going

1500
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: to continue in twenty twenty three.

1501
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 2: What do you think and when fights like, I mean,

1502
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 2: here's what we get. Look, I was asked on the

1503
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 2: Showtime Boxing podcast with Raskin Mulvaney. My guys, like, you know,

1504
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 2: what was your biggest biggest moment or biggest headline of

1505
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two for boxing? Like without even without even

1506
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 2: like hesitating, like I had to make sure it was

1507
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 2: this calendar year and I wasn't just washed and I

1508
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 2: had the wrong year. But without even hesitating, I'm like

1509
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 2: Taylor Serrano and what it did for women's boxing because

1510
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 2: like biggest stakes ever, biggest fight ever. They put it

1511
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 2: in Madison Square Garden in the main event and it

1512
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: over delivered soliber.

1513
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 3: Delivery you tad?

1514
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 2: I mean, is that a Rousey versus carmuchh or Serrano

1515
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 2: versus like cyborg moment equivalent to MMA no different, but

1516
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 2: but could be just as impactful from the idea of

1517
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 2: like girls watching from home and going, oh my god,

1518
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 2: I could do that, like that could have an impactful

1519
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 2: thing that goes well beyond that we realized. But the

1520
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 2: immediate impact to your point is networks and promoters, who

1521
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 2: let's give them credit, last couple years more networks and

1522
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: promoters were positioning women in key spots, and you know,

1523
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 2: even Showtime had a good run with Coloresta Shields before

1524
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 2: you know, the business relationship changed and put her in

1525
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 2: big fights on Showtime obviously top rank in his own

1526
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 2: and all that. Eddie Hearn's been big on it too.

1527
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: Now that you know, a fight like Taylor Serrano being

1528
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 2: that great, Now michaelam Mayor gets a chance to be

1529
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 2: in big headlining bouts, yeah, you're gonna see it an

1530
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 2: aggressive matchmaking because people are realizing that the product at

1531
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 2: that at the elite level is very good. The problem

1532
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 2: that women's boxing will have and always has in cycles

1533
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: is that depth. Depth is a problem, and let's give

1534
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,919
Speaker 2: MMA credit, not in every division, but MMA since coming

1535
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 2: on the scene has been able to consistently rebuild the

1536
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 2: depth and get new young fighters that are better than

1537
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 2: ever before. That. There may be a stretch of that

1538
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 2: in women's boxing, but if there is, it's going to

1539
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 2: be based on what happened in Madison Square Garden that night,

1540
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 2: because it has that big of a ripple effect, So

1541
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 2: give me that rematch. And you're right, Luke, give me

1542
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 2: some big ones here.

1543
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: Let's do it all right, last but not least b

1544
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: see and you kind of indicated it before when we

1545
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: talked about it with fad Or. But Beltore going to CBS.

1546
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. I obviously we working for

1547
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: Showtime and Beltar being on Showtime is obviously great for

1548
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: both parties, but it is behind a paywall, right, there

1549
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: is something that could dissuade people from catching it from

1550
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 1: a wider, broader audience. It's not unfair to say that

1551
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: CBS has a much broader audience, although it's CBS the channel,

1552
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: of course. So Beltor being on CBS is great. And

1553
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'm told that if things go well with

1554
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: fade Or, there could be on CBS multiple times a year.

1555
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: And nothing of that is written in stone, none of

1556
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: that is guaranteed. A lot of this depends on the performance.

1557
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 1: But that's what sort of makes me sort of curious

1558
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: about it all. Like, don't get me wrong, Beltore being

1559
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 1: on CBS is great. It's great for Belatore. I think

1560
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: it's great for CBS. They wouldn't be doing if they

1561
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 1: didn't think they were gonna win on it. But it's

1562
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: not as how do I say, this's like earth shattering

1563
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: as it was when Strikeforce was on CBS the first time.

1564
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 1: To your point, they've been on FI, UFC's been on Fox,

1565
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: they've been on ABC. So it's a huge deal and

1566
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: it's a big question.

1567
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 3: But what can happen here?

1568
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: But b see if Biltmore does well with Fatal or

1569
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: on CBS and they have multiple shows a year on CBS,

1570
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: I mean that is you know, Listen, the UFC has

1571
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: only grown in profile in the ESPN era. I think

1572
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,959
Speaker 1: some of these other promotions, your ones and your PFLs

1573
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: and whoever, like a shot in the arm from CBS

1574
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: to Beltar. It's not going to completely alter the landscape

1575
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: of the business, but definitely, definitely, definitely could re establish

1576
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 1: them as a number two.

1577
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no better flick through content than elite

1578
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,759
Speaker 2: combat sports. Now in the streaming era, are people actually

1579
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 2: doing that anymore? Are they going channel by channel and

1580
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 2: just whatever coming? Oh that looks interesting? I don't know,

1581
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 2: you know, I mean not everybody has all the technology

1582
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 2: and apps that we do. Look, I'm sure there's a

1583
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 2: lot of America that does it old school. But oh,

1584
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: by the way, CBS also the most watched network in America,

1585
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 2: so this is a great gamble. But to be fair,

1586
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: we don't know what the post streaming era is going

1587
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: to do to the numbers here, but even comparative not

1588
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 2: But you can't ultimately compare these numbers to what Kimbo

1589
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 2: and Bell, you know, and Strikeforce did with Fador back

1590
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 2: in the day. But for what's expected today, it may

1591
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 2: just be the perfect storm that That's why I think

1592
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 2: Fador might reconsider and that's why you know, we've talked

1593
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 2: about that after a j McKee first beat Patricio the

1594
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 2: first meeting, it's like, damn, that's the guy to put

1595
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 2: on CBS if you want to, like, you know, get

1596
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 2: people excited that there's this next big thing. Now, look

1597
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 2: he lost, but he's coming back all that, but there

1598
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 2: are you know, let's give Scott Coker credit, Luke. He

1599
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 2: does play the hits, he does know what works and

1600
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 2: the Grand Prixx with the legit one million dollar prize

1601
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 2: on top o our fun as heck, and this is

1602
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 2: an old Scott Coker playbook move. But there's no reason

1603
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 2: why this isn't a classic move that could still work.

1604
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 2: So I'm just as interested as a fan as I

1605
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 2: am as a you know, CBS paramount employee to see

1606
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 2: if this, if this can hit, if this can really

1607
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 2: be something. So I'm excited. I'm excited. So luke my

1608
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 2: five angles to watch. You ready for this? I want

1609
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 2: your reaction. Let's do it, okay, number one? Luck seriously here,

1610
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 2: if Mahachev becomes the UFC pomp for punk King and

1611
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 2: Usman normaga Metov becomes the Bellator potentially pomp for punk King,

1612
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 2: and who's the other in Nermaga Medov, the Umar that's

1613
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 2: you know, could be in the top five by the

1614
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 2: end of the year, and his weight classie Nermaga Metov

1615
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 2: has got a great shot to be your twenty twenty

1616
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 2: three I'm may coach of the Year.

1617
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: I can't really disagree with that, especially if those things

1618
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: come to fruition. If Usman wins the one fifty five

1619
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: Grand Prix in Bellotour, if if Makachev beats Bokanowski in

1620
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 1: Perth and then defends it against you know whoever, and

1621
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: then to your point about the rest of Umar and

1622
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: do that whole that whole crew is just nothing but winners.

1623
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: They've been training hard their whole lives. They now have

1624
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: a very elite I think what folks really misunderstand is, yes,

1625
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: these guys have been training hard for a long time

1626
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 1: and they've got good coaches, but they it seems to me,

1627
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 1: you see, the thing that's lost is and every every

1628
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: elite gym has a good system. The Denbreka Medov and

1629
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: that whole team. They have great systems in place, both

1630
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: for camps, for long rene trainings like what are we

1631
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: going to do over the next year. Everything is planned,

1632
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: Everything is hard nosed, everything is meticulous, and.

1633
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 3: The results speak for themselves.

1634
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 1: Dude, Habib is on the precipice of not just being

1635
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: the greatest lightweight of ever, which of course is something

1636
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 1: of a debate and ongoing, but you know probably is,

1637
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 1: but coach of the year, but one of the best

1638
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 1: coaches we've seen. He really is leaning to this hardcore

1639
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 1: and the results are not accidental at all, and.

1640
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 2: No one's forgetting that. You know, he's taken the reins

1641
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 2: from his father a Bilbin App the late trainer and

1642
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 2: you know who is an institution in Dugistan, and being

1643
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 2: such a great coach and teaching this discipline, and obviously

1644
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 2: Javia Mendez as well on the team at AKA, but

1645
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 2: Fator is going to be the face of this moving forward.

1646
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 2: And when you talk to people on the inside as

1647
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 2: we do, all the Fatal, all the Hibib stories, I say, Fatal,

1648
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 2: all the Hibib stories are amazing, Luke, because the intensity,

1649
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 2: the dedication, the commitment to tiny details. I mean, you know, yeah,

1650
01:12:55,880 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 2: like dude, the guys, the guys wildly successful and the

1651
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 2: space Luke, it's incredible Number twos angle to watch. I'm

1652
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 2: not predicting this. I don't necessarily you know, I don't

1653
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 2: want Dana White to lose money here. But I've said

1654
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 2: this weird feeling that the Dana White Slap League is

1655
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 2: going to be Slap Dick League is going to be

1656
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 2: over before it starts, Luke, meaning you know, maybe we

1657
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 2: get a couple episodes out of it, but I just

1658
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 2: it's to me, it's just such a bad look with

1659
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 2: somebody like like you would never see the NFL Commissioner

1660
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 2: put out a dicey message as it pertains to like

1661
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 2: CTE and head trauma, which is one of the biggest

1662
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 2: things that the NFL builds, like changes its rules to

1663
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 2: try to protect, which is junior sale like incidents, you

1664
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 2: know what I mean, taking great care of the fighters

1665
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 2: along or the play, you know, the football player's long

1666
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 2: term like yeah, Dana White on the flip side, who

1667
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 2: would you know be best advising typically is to not

1668
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 2: talk about head trauma and all that unless they're saying, well,

1669
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 2: we have you know, PI plans where you can get

1670
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 2: you know, all that doctor and healthcare and all that.

1671
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 2: That's wests we should be talking about. Yeah, you're putting

1672
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 2: out this product that is being promoted with the power

1673
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 2: engine that is the UF see that is just no

1674
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 2: defense and is completely opposite to that. Is it gonna

1675
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 2: be an injury? Is it gonna be that nobody cares

1676
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 2: or is it just gonna come across in bad taste?

1677
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 3: Either way?

1678
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 2: Luke? I mean you remember one Dana why put out that

1679
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 2: boxing reality series? I watched the first episode. I thought

1680
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 2: it was cool and good, and then it fell off

1681
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,719
Speaker 2: the network because nobody watched it and it was gone.

1682
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 2: I just have a feeling like this will be the

1683
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 2: like we used to say about Vince McMahon, this will

1684
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 2: be the XFL on his legacy. You know, this would

1685
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 2: be that one albatross, Like, you know, like this feels

1686
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 2: like out. I mean, ZUFA Boxing was too luke to

1687
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 2: be fair, but this feels like ZOOFA Boxing all over again, doesn't.

1688
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 3: I mean, the whole thing is just so ridiculous.

1689
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: And on top of it, like how they're trying to

1690
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: use the UFC's architecture, I mean quite literally the architecture

1691
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: of the Apex that's where a lot of this happens.

1692
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 1: And also like the way in which they have teams

1693
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 1: and there's like a like a what do they call

1694
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: them slappers? They're not fighters a slapper house, And the

1695
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 1: and the uniforms that they have like they borrowed, they

1696
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 1: borrowed every element and then just repackaged it for this,

1697
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 1: And on top of it, like they're leaning heavily and

1698
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: expecting MMA fans to extent even MMA media to just

1699
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 1: sort of go along with it, like by inundating us

1700
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 1: with this messaging. My understanding is it's an eight episode

1701
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 1: deal that they have with TBS starting in January. I

1702
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: think it probably runs through eight episodes and then that's

1703
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 1: that's it.

1704
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 3: They call it a day.

1705
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see this becoming a phenomenon, And I

1706
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 2: think it's just a bad look for the company. Number three,

1707
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 2: Luke I mentioned about Fador meant not being done obviously,

1708
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 2: like he's got a puncher's chance against Bata and all this,

1709
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 2: but be prepared for this angle. If Fador knocks out

1710
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 2: Ryan Bader on CBS and patent in theory retires in

1711
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 2: the moment as the Bellow tour and everyweight champion and

1712
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 2: you know, avenging a loss by knockout as the cherry

1713
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 2: on top, Dude, he's gonna hit MMA fans, especially old ones,

1714
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 2: are ones being brought back in directly in the field spot.

1715
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 2: This is Randy versus Sylvia or even in Ghanu versus

1716
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 2: Gone like on steroids, Luke, what is he forty five?

1717
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 2: I mean, this would be wild.

1718
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, given the response that we saw in

1719
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: the Timothy Johnson fight and how happy people were, and

1720
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 1: granted that was in Russia, which of course had a

1721
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 1: different kind of sensibility about everything. But to your point,

1722
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 1: if he goes in there and then floors Bader, who

1723
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: by the way, has not looked great of recent and

1724
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 1: claims the title and then crowns his career that way, dude,

1725
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: it would be massive, massive in the fields, massive for

1726
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 1: like also restoring Fato's reputation a little bit, which you know,

1727
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,719
Speaker 1: he's fighting well past the point we probably should.

1728
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,560
Speaker 3: I completely agree.

1729
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 2: Number four, Luke, we've hit this ad nauseum, so we

1730
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 2: can do it quick. But the more I keep talking

1731
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 2: about this scenario, in this statement, it might actually be true.

1732
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 2: Jamaran boots on this the unbeaten wealter Way who comes

1733
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 2: back January seventh on Showtime pay per view, Like he

1734
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 2: actually might be the best fighter in the world right now,

1735
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 2: only like no one would call him that because he

1736
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 2: hasn't proven it and it's so early, and he's trying

1737
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 2: so hard to get big time names. But every step up,

1738
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 2: I mean, he's it's not just demolishing we've seen look

1739
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 2: at Edgar Berlango is knocking everybody out the first round.

1740
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 2: People can demolish people, but it's it's the way he

1741
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 2: sets it up. It's everything that makes him so next

1742
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 2: level dynamic. He's a video game fighter who's come to

1743
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 2: life as a twenty three, twenty four year old. I'm

1744
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 2: the verge of the title level. Luke. You we've gushed

1745
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 2: about him ad nauseum, but it's for a reason. I

1746
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 2: don't know if he could be the Fighter of the

1747
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 2: Year next year if he ends up getting the big

1748
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 2: enough names to do it. Either way, he will use

1749
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three as a way to invade boxing because

1750
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 2: he's coming on and you can't get in the way

1751
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 2: of it at this Yeah.

1752
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: He's going to become a lot of people's favorite fighter

1753
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 1: by the end of next year. To your point, the

1754
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 1: only thing they can hold him back, and by the way,

1755
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 1: he's co main event on that Tank Davis and Hector

1756
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: Garcia fight in DC or they pay the showtime pay

1757
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 1: per view, so you'll get to see Boots Ennis in

1758
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: the co main event role. But the only issue holding

1759
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 1: him back is can he get the fights he needs?

1760
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 3: That I don't know. But whoever they line up in

1761
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 3: front of him, they're in trouble.

1762
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 2: Well, he'll become the mandatory for Spence in one belt.

1763
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 2: I think he already is in another alphabet.

1764
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 3: Organ he already is an IBF.

1765
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 2: Okay, what if so he's fighting Karen Shakadzian in January,

1766
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 2: if you if he wins that, could he fight Staniosis

1767
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 2: or ugas fights that I think we would like, or

1768
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 2: could he fight Spence or Crawford if they don't fight

1769
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 2: each other, or.

1770
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean Spence and Crawford aren't going to fight him,

1771
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: but but but Ugas or somebody else else, like a

1772
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: just a tick down, I think they will all right.

1773
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 2: Number five angle to watch for the new year is

1774
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 2: this look really? The only bad thing you can say

1775
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 2: about the UFC this year is you know, we didn't

1776
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 2: get Connor or John Jones, so some of those big

1777
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 2: ticket crossover event type pay per views just didn't happen. Instead,

1778
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 2: you got great fights and big upsets. But it is

1779
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 2: time for the UFC's next era of pay per view

1780
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 2: stars to stand up and improve it. So that could

1781
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 2: be established guys already like Volkanovsky and even at Asania

1782
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 2: who have a certain platform but haven't raised it. Either way, Luke,

1783
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 2: we are somewhat dependent right now on old names, which

1784
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 2: isn't you know what happens in transitional phases, But right now,

1785
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 2: when you look like who could headline a pay per

1786
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 2: view that like mainstream sports fans would care about, I

1787
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 2: think that list is small and dependent upon angeine injury

1788
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 2: and come back more than it is on fights we

1789
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 2: could make next. Are you looking at anybody that may

1790
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 2: end up using this calendar? Year of doing just that,

1791
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 2: putting themselves in a position to be like a pay

1792
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 2: per view draw.

1793
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 1: Well, that's a I hard me to answer that one quickly. U.

1794
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 1: I have to think about that one for a second. Man,

1795
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: I wonder if no, because the judo has been out

1796
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 1: for a while, so no, Volkanovski maybe, But I still

1797
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 1: don't know about that one.

1798
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 3: Fifty five. It's kind of hard to say.

1799
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 1: Mak Yeah, we know what Makachev honestly, with that Habib

1800
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,440
Speaker 1: rub if he just keeps going, if he beats Volkanovski

1801
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 1: and he has like a big name opponent, they end

1802
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,719
Speaker 1: up finding a way to get him Connor or something. Yeah,

1803
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: like he could actually turn it, even though he's not

1804
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 1: as dynamic as to be. I'm not saying the same

1805
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 1: level in terms of like what he could do because he.

1806
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 2: Literally Hasbib standing next to him, like.

1807
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: There's there's so much wind at his back, and he's

1808
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 1: got so much ability to combine two forces. It might

1809
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 1: be big for him next year, It really might.

1810
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 2: I mean tom Zak could be that guy, right because

1811
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 2: he has he the attitude of like a pay per

1812
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,759
Speaker 2: view headliner, either a villain or you think he's a badass.

1813
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 2: I mean he could be that guy. So we'll see and.

1814
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 3: Then don't forget dude.

1815
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: I said it before, and our predictions for walterway Scheff

1816
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: gott rockmanov Man, he's much more quiet and he doesn't

1817
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: have the same kind of you know, bulldog on a

1818
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:18,560
Speaker 1: chain kind of way of looking at like a hamsat Chramaya.

1819
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, man, that dude is going to

1820
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 1: be an assassin, and I think that's going to start

1821
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: playing off.

1822
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 3: On his aura, so to speak. Py per View Star,

1823
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, but.

1824
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I don't about that. I don't about that.

1825
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 2: Hell wait, finally to close here, if there's ever any

1826
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 2: female fighters like Rondo pay per View Star, Holly Holm

1827
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 2: and me should tates like you know, they needed to

1828
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 2: be b sides, but they're stars. Amanda and Valentina have

1829
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 2: you know, in different ways have crossed over, but never

1830
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 2: never in a high level. Is there any female fighters

1831
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 2: that have that long term potential that maybe we don't

1832
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 2: even realize right now.

1833
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 1: Not twenty twenty three, but you got with these young ones,

1834
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 1: the Barbers, the Mavericks, the blanche Fields and some other

1835
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 1: ones as well. I think long term, yes, but for

1836
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three too soon.

1837
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there it is, Luke, I got nothing left.

1838
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: To give the pip all right, Well then that's it

1839
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: for us today. So thumbs up on the video. If

1840
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: you're haven't done it yet, please subscribe once again. Merry Christmas,

1841
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: Happy holidays, however you celebrate or not. Don't drink and drive,

1842
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 1: don't text and drive. Be good to each other, be

1843
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: safe you see. Any final message for the audience before we.

1844
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 2: Go, We love you, folks. Not that that doesn't necessarily

1845
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 2: mean Luke wants to shake all of your hands, or

1846
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 2: you know, welcome you onto our show, or really any

1847
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,759
Speaker 2: further into our lives beyond you clicking play on that video.

1848
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 2: But even in that grinch's heart, he knows we're here because.

1849
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 3: I mean, none of those things are true. I shook

1850
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 3: everyone's hand in Las Vegas.

1851
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 2: Thanks you, pretext.

1852
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 1: But what you should say is the producers may not

1853
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 1: want us shaking everyone's hands, but old LT, Old LT

1854
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: is all reliable when it comes to that.

1855
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know you're a stand up guy. In person,

1856
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 2: I'm more of the slimy weasel. But no, thank you,

1857
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 2: thank you, folks. I mean, I so I had this

1858
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 2: moment Luke, just real quick to close the holiday season.

1859
01:21:58,160 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 3: Yes, please, we have a whole other thing to do here.

1860
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 2: I had this moment of taking the train back from

1861
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 2: uh when we were in Jersey City most recently and

1862
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 2: really doing one of those like, Yo, this is our

1863
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 2: fucking job, man, you know what I mean? Like, this

1864
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 2: is our job, Like this is this isn't even like

1865
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 2: community theater. This is like getting drunk and doing skits,

1866
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 2: you know, to make fun of your friends. And we

1867
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 2: do this for a living. And it's like, you know,

1868
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 2: thank you people out there legitimately for allowing us to

1869
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 2: play our passions out. What's your passion? BC dick jokes?

1870
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 2: So thank you for that? Seriously, you get my point. Look,

1871
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 2: you do once in a while have to pinch yourself,

1872
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 2: whether us in this job or the people watching at home.

1873
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 2: When you come home and you have a happy, healthy

1874
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 2: family and you've got great animals, and you know, and

1875
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 2: you're just like, you know, life is good. Life is

1876
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 2: always going to be challenging. There's ups and downs, but

1877
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 2: you know, stop and take a look around once in

1878
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 2: a while. As Ferris Bueler said, we only get one

1879
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 2: of them, and it doesn't last forever. You know, so

1880
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:57,679
Speaker 2: I'm very happy. Look, I'm very happy man.

1881
01:22:58,600 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 3: There you have it all right.

1882
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 1: For the crews at Malka and Showtime and CBS Sports,

1883
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:03,719
Speaker 1: that's Brian Campbell.

1884
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 3: I'm Luke Thomas.

1885
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 1: Happy holidays to you have Mary Art I should say

1886
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 1: Happy New Year as well, and uh we'll see you

1887
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 1: on the other side.

1888
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 3: Until then, they are all of your gains. Be loyal.