1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: Oh, we got a busy day coming up today and 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: tonight we got baseball, we got football. The voice of 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: Amazon Prime, Al Michaels, will stop by the Hall of 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 2: Fame writer Peter King. Peter King likes overtime in the NFL. 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: Pete will tell you why a little bit later on. 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: He likes ties in the NFL. Eight seven to seven 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: three DP Show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: a DP show. 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The Dodgers bounce the Reds 20 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: eight to four. More on that coming up. The three 21 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 2: playoff games the winner go home later on today and tonight, 22 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: the Niners in the Rams no brock party. Really, they're 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: down a couple of wide receivers as well, and the 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: Niners a wounded animal. They are getting eight and a half. 25 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 2: Speaking of gambling, Dylan is in for Fritzi. Fritzy taking 26 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: the day off due to religious reasons and Dylan part 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: of our gambling podcast sitting in the chair taking over 28 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: the responsibilities. Dylan, good to have you. 29 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: Thank you Dan. We actually have a wounded animal parlay 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: later in the show. 31 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: Would you explain what a wounded animal parlay is? 32 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: Yes, the forty nine ers being the wounded animal. Okay, 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: we're kind of digging into the depths of the depth chart. 34 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: You're going to pull out some hopeful winners. 35 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: Now, what does that mean the wounded animal that you're 36 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: looking for individual bets with the Niners. 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: The whole team's pretty wound, pretty wounded, so it can 38 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: be kind of anything for you related. 39 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: We'll have that for you coming up, by the way. 40 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: The Gambling podcast available later on today after the show 41 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: with Dylan with Shayan Irving and also Bad Larry, who 42 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: is back from his European vacation. 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I'm watching yesterday 53 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: and watching last night. I'm fascinated by Mason Miller. He 54 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: he is the Padres closer, and when he's on the mound, 55 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 2: he's bringing three digits. It's one hundred miles an hour. 56 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 2: Fifteen total pitches were one hundred or more miles per 57 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: hour by the Padres versus the Cubs yesterday. Eleven of 58 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: the fifteen were by Mason Miller. Seven in the seventh inning, 59 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: four in the eighth inning, four by Robert Suarez, all 60 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: in the ninth inning. They're just bringing in one oh 61 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 2: four point five. On the FM dial. I mean, it's impressive. 62 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: And if you wonder why they have a you know 63 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: they're going to be a pitch count because there are 64 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: more guys throwing, you know, more than one hundred miles 65 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: an hour. Now it I mean it's jumped up almost 66 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: five miles per hour. That's incredible. We have more on 67 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: that coming up, but you know, I started to look 68 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: at just the velocity with the Padres bullpen, they had 69 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: fifteen pitches of over one hundred miles an hour. Last 70 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: time that happened the Yankees Game three of the Alds 71 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: when they had twenty eight of those pitches. And with Miller, 72 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: Miller face nine batters, eight strikeouts and he hits somebody 73 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: sixteen of his forty pitches or one hundred miles an 74 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: hour or greater. Now, it used to be that you 75 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: would have a couple of guys who threw hard. I 76 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: go back to Bob Feller, I go back to Nolan 77 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: Ryan and Nolan Ryan, you know, the jugs gun. He 78 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 2: probably threw one hundred and four hundred five miles per hour. 79 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 2: But there is a difference. And I remember we've asked 80 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: pitchers before, what's the difference between ninety six and one 81 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: hundred and hitters will tell you there is a big 82 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: difference with that, But everything is the speed and how 83 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: often I see that, And that's where you'll see guys 84 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: get locked in. They'll say, throw me that fastball. All 85 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: hit that eventually catch up to that. Breaking ball. That's different. 86 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: Breaking ball will withstand the test of time. Fastball they 87 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: can turn on it because they'll see it. You see 88 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 2: one hundred mile an hour fastball more often. It used 89 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 2: to be you'd be like, oh my gosh, I don't 90 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 2: see anybody throwing like that. Now it's commonplace. Now everybody's 91 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: built that way. You're encouraged to throw as hard as 92 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: you can for as long as you can, and then 93 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: they kick you to the curb. Tommy John Surgery, come 94 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: on down. Somebody else is going to come on in 95 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: fewer innings. Now it's about you get in, throw as 96 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 2: hard as you can, and then we'll bring in somebody else. 97 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: Throw as hard as you can. I always wondered why 98 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: pitchers would start out, and I talked to Kurt Shilling 99 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 2: about this many years ago. I said, why do you 100 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: throw harder the longer you're in the game. He said, well, 101 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: those pitches mean more and I'm loose, like I'm you know, 102 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: you're you're building up momentum. My nickname in high school 103 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 2: was fast but won't last, And that had to do 104 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: with pitching as well. Yes it is, and I could 105 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 2: throw really hard, but I couldn't throw, you know, for 106 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: a long period of time. It'd be like seven pitches, 107 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: be like, man, that guy, you know he can throw hard, 108 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, I have a noodle arm. 109 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: After that, these guys come in, they know I got 110 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: about fifteen or twenty pitches. That's how long I can go, 111 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 2: and then you'll bring in the next guy. So starting 112 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: pitching used to be you were going six or seven 113 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: and announcers are shocked, like I'm a moto. He came 114 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: back for another inning and the announcers were like, oh, 115 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: he's coming back. It's a sixth inning. But it's just 116 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: different now. The days of finesse feels like long gone. 117 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: But you still have that breaking ball. That breaking ball 118 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: is the great equalizer in my opinion, and you see 119 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 2: that with these guys. You can have a fastball, but 120 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: you better have a breaking ball, something off speed, because 121 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 2: if not, they lock in. And that's where you go 122 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: that's one hundred and four mile an hour fastball, and 123 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: he took it deep. They can. They're geared for that, 124 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: even these pitching machines. When we were at the Super 125 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: Bowl and we were at the Giants facility in Skydale 126 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: and we asked them, they had the jugs gun down 127 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 2: below the stadium and we went down there to take 128 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: BP one day and I said, can you make that 129 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: throw like Clayton Kershaw curveball? And they said yes, like 130 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: they've gotten it so that it's not just they're throwing fastballs. 131 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: They can throw off speed pitches. They can throw breaking balls, 132 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: they can throw sliders. That's what amazed me because it's 133 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: like even us. You know, with an eighty five or 134 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: ninety mile an hour fastball, you put your bat on it. 135 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: But if you say, hey, I'm not going to tell 136 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: you what's coming, and then all of a sudden, you 137 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: know you're up there and your legs give out. That's 138 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: that's what's still amazing. That's why Clayton Kershaw can still 139 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: pitch the way he pitches because he has that breaking ball. 140 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: Now you have to keep him on us with a 141 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: fastball that is at least in the nineties. But now, 142 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: and you're watching these guys like I would too. PAULI 143 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: text me to say, Mason Miller's coming in. I went 144 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: over to watch the game, and he looks the part 145 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: of a guy who throws one hundred and four mile 146 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: an hour. He looks like he could be, you know, 147 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: a linebacker. But that's baseball now, and you saw that 148 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: yesterday and last night. These guys throw hard for as 149 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: long as they can. 150 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, remember when Tim Linskin came on the scene 151 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: and everyone was like, man, he's so slight. How is 152 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 4: he going to be able to last that long? Because 153 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 4: all these guys, just like you said, Mason Miller looks 154 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 4: like a linebacker. 155 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 5: You know, these guys got to be big. 156 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: Also, well, you still get that guy that defies logic 157 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: where you go, how does that guy throw that hard? 158 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: And there are certain guys like Pedro Martinez, to me, 159 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 2: is one of the most fascinating pictures of all time, 160 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: one of the greatest pictures of all time, one of 161 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: the most underrated pictures of all time, because if you 162 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: meet him, he slight, but he had that ability. He 163 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: was able to make that ball move, but he also 164 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: had velocity. Even when you're around Mo Rivera, Like, you're 165 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: standing next to him and I'm going that guy is 166 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: the greatest closer of all time, and he doesn't look 167 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: like he's a baseball player. It's just like, Oh, what 168 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: do you do for a living? 169 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: Uh? 170 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: You know, I'm the closer for the Yankees? You know, 171 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: enter sand Man. Oh okay, But that's the fascination you 172 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: have with baseball. There's certain guys who can do certain 173 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: things with the baseball that we can't. But what they're 174 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: teaching now is go out there and they've studied. It's physics, 175 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: it's probably geometry, algebra, math, all that thrown in there. 176 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: Spin rate, you know, that's why you get that. You 177 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: want a little bit of tackiness on the ball, so 178 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: you get that spin rate there. Pitchers would complain about 179 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: that early in the year, but it's fascinating to watch 180 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: it really is. 181 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, Pauling, That's what I'm curious about. Is it the 182 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 6: natural human development or is it things like less ending 183 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 6: so you could throw harder, more often. Better medical advice, 184 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 6: better workout routines. Because in two thousand and two, the 185 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 6: average fastball Major League Baseball was eighty nine miles per hour. 186 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 6: Now it's ninety four. It's gone up five miles an 187 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 6: hour in less than a generation. Does that mean it's 188 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 6: going to keep going that way? 189 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 5: It's hard to know. 190 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: I would have to talk to somebody who is in 191 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 2: physiology or smart people. 192 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: Yes. 193 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, see, if you can get somebody at Yale who 194 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: can join us this morning, we'll do Yeah. 195 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 7: I think a lot of it is just how good 196 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 7: we've gotten at breaking down the mechanics rather than anything else. 197 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 7: You have such slow motion, you know, and graphics and 198 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 7: technology and all of this stuff that you're able to 199 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 7: understand if you're pushing off at the right angle, you're 200 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 7: doing all of these different things, and the leverage that 201 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 7: your body creates or the torque that it creates to 202 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 7: throw the ball. I think we've gotten so good at 203 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 7: just figuring that part of it out. I don't know 204 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 7: how much better you can get at it, but I 205 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 7: think that's a big part of it. 206 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: When we go to spring training, or I used to 207 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: go to spring training, I always love to see what 208 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: pitchers were doing, because you know, hitting hasn't really changed 209 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: other than you know, you're swinging up on the ball. 210 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: You know you're trying to launch the ball. Angle is 211 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: the big one. But with pitchers, there's always these different 212 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: kind of routines, exercises they were doing, like they would 213 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: take a towel and then they would you know, have 214 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: the pitching motion and they were just you know, holding 215 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: onto a towel, snapping the towel. Yeah, And I'm like, wow, okay, 216 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: but you're seeing all of these different things. And it 217 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: goes back to Mark Pryor when he was with the Cubs, like, 218 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: these are things that guys have been doing. And Tom House, 219 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: who's a former reliever with the Braves, he's a pitching coach, 220 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: but he's also helped Tom Brady. He helps a lot 221 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: of these quarterbacks and how you throw the football, you know, 222 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: how you torque, all those things, and teaching a lot 223 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: of this modern philosophy. It's it's like the golf swing. 224 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 2: When you look and somebody is hitting the ball less 225 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: than three hundred yards, we go, man, what's wrong with him? Okay, 226 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: Now it's you know the shamba hit at three seventy two, 227 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: and we go, did he get all of it? Rory 228 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: some of these other guys. We're shocked when somebody doesn't 229 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: hit it three hundred yards. But that's technology. But that's 230 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: also understanding. They're using the ground now. It starts from 231 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 2: the ground up. It's not how fast you can swing 232 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: your arms or how fast you move your hips. You know, 233 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: you look at John Rahm, it doesn't even look like 234 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 2: he's finishing his backswing. They've studied this. It is a science. 235 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 2: It's not boy, he's just naturally gifted. Rory's naturally gifted, 236 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: so was Tiger. But they did understand how do I 237 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: get more distance, how do I get and how do 238 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: I compress the ball? The accuracy, all of those things. 239 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: That's what they're doing with every sport. It can be 240 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: kicking a soccer ball, kicking a football. In fact, speaking 241 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: of which, Vic Fangio. Vic Fangio was talking about kickers 242 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: and he compared them to the steroid era in baseball. 243 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: Have that for you coming up. Also, Sean Payton is 244 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: facing the Eagles this weekend. He defends the toush push. 245 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 2: We'll have that for you coming up. We got a 246 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 2: lot of things to get to today. Your phone call 247 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: is always welcome. We'll settle on a poll question. We'll 248 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: discuss that and the greatest lineups in baseball history. And 249 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: I'm talking about not Hall of famers lineups that have 250 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: MVP winners in them. We'll talk about that as well. 251 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 2: I think I said in them. I don't think that's 252 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: a word. I think it's in them. Everyone gets in them. Yeah, 253 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 2: out them, in them. All right, we'll take a break. 254 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: We're back after this Dan Patrick Show. 255 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 256 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 257 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 258 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 8: Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. 259 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 9: Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight Fire 260 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 9: with Jason McIntyre. This isn't your typical sports pod pushing 261 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 9: the same tired narratives down your throat every day. 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Rock Party is 272 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: out with the toe injury, but the Niners are getting 273 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: eight and a half eight seven seven to three DP 274 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com and Twitter handle on 275 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: TP show all right, seat and poll question for hour 276 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: one for the audience. 277 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 7: We've got a few options here. I think actually we 278 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 7: can put up there too. If we will see a 279 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 7: time where the average miles per hour of a pitch 280 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 7: is at ninety nine sure to go along with Paul's 281 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 7: thought about if it went from eighty nine to nine 282 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 7: four theoretically, right, following the logic of what you're just 283 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 7: talking about, in the next twenty five years, the average 284 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 7: pitch will be ninety nine miles an hour. 285 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: And how many is that twenty five years from now 286 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: or is it longer than that. 287 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 6: Let's say every generation it went up three miles per hour. 288 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 6: We're going to be on this earth for a long 289 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 6: long time. 290 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: When was the average pitch eighty nine miles an hour 291 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: twenty five years ago? Two thousand? Okay, so twenty five 292 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: years from now it'll be ninety nine miles per hour. 293 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 6: Right, And would the max speed go from one oh 294 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 6: one to one oh five now to one oh nine 295 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 6: one ten in two thousand and fifty. 296 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: I'd have to have study somebody who studied, you know, 297 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: physiology or kinesiology or whatever it might be. Because it's 298 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: like the one hundred meter dash? How much better can 299 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: you improve upon that time? And how long has Usain 300 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: Bolt had that number? Like, we're not close to that 301 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: number yet, I don't can can you get to nine four, 302 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: nine three and one hundred meter dash at some point? Yea? 303 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 6: Or was Usain Bolt and anomaly because most sprinters are 304 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 6: six to two or under. Usained Bolt by being six five. 305 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 6: I'm no physicist, but I've read some stuff about this. 306 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 6: His stride was longer, so every step he took was 307 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 6: two inches longer than the guy next to him at 308 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 6: the same rate of leg speed. So that means he 309 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 6: finishes two meters ahead. Is he the like he's a standalone? 310 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 311 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, we could also put up there. We got two 312 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 7: here from Paul, which is worse ties in sports are 313 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 7: having to wear a tie? 314 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 5: Great question, A fair point. We were one in high school. 315 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: I've spent half my life wearing a tie. If you 316 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: wear an unbelief like a banger tie, then it's a 317 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: great feeling. I kept all of the ties that when 318 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: I handed out the Super Bowl trophies. I have them 319 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: in here, and you feel if you feel pretty good 320 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: when you're out there and you go, all right, this 321 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 2: good color combination. But you know, wearing a time, I 322 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 2: would wait till the very very last minute when I 323 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 2: did Sports Center to put on the tie, and then 324 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: on the way back over after doing Sports Center, you'd 325 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: have that tie off. But I remember when I was little, 326 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: I had a clip on tie. Even then, I was like, 327 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: I had to go to church every morning then have 328 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 2: to have a clip on tie. And I always thought 329 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: if you went to church, I always had to have 330 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: a tie on. And then my mom eventually said, you 331 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: don't have to wear a tie all the time, and 332 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: I said, oh, okay. I think she was trying to 333 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 2: see if I would like going to church a little 334 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: more if I didn't have to wear a tie. That 335 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 2: didn't work. 336 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, on Sports Center, when you took your tie off, 337 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 6: was it all off or did you just slide it 338 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 6: off and keep it tied and hang it up. 339 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: I don't really remember. 340 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: No. 341 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 2: I think I just loosened it a little bit, and 342 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: then depending on who was watching, I would slide it 343 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 2: off gently, just right. 344 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 8: If Carl Ravitch is around, yeah, like, hey Carl, check 345 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 8: this out. 346 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: Carl would go hey, slower, Yeah, I go, all right, Revy, 347 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 2: I'll tie it again. Yeah, yeah, double windsor. 348 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 6: I used to work at the clothing store in high school, 349 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 6: so I learned the proper way to tie a tie 350 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 6: with the big dimple in the middle, the proper way 351 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 6: to do the pocket square to make it last out. 352 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 5: Okay, look where I got me? 353 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 354 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 3: Yes, can anyone hear tie a bow tie? 355 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: I think I can. I don't like the way it 356 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: looks fair, but it like it looks like I've been 357 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 2: wearing the tie at the reception for five hours when 358 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: I put it on, so it kind of looks like, oh, 359 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 2: you had a good time. I haven't even started yet. 360 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 3: Actually tried really hard on this. 361 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 362 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 3: The clip on the clip ons for those I think 363 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 3: still work. Those play like the one when that just 364 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 3: clips on the neck and it's already tied. 365 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm fine with that. Yeah, I have no 366 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: sh because people will ask you did you tie that? 367 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 2: I don't know. Just clip it on here. I'm going 368 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: to work for that hard all right. So Sean Payton 369 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: and the Broncos had the Eagles coming up this weekend, 370 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: and Sean Payton was asked about the tush push. 371 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, listen, I was one that stood up in favor of. 372 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 10: The reason I stood up in favor of is the 373 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 10: powers to be don't want it for esthetic reasons or 374 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 10: competitive reason, you know, or it's hard to officiate, et cetera. 375 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 10: But I've been involved in those meetings for a long time, 376 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 10: and when all of a sudden, health and safety was 377 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 10: pulled into that, which which might be the safest play 378 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 10: in football, my bullet nose kind of went up. Look 379 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 10: at the quarterback sneak, and I think credit Philadelphia. I'm 380 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 10: one that looks at it. You know, as long as 381 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 10: the line of scrimmage is clean, it's a well run 382 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 10: quarterback sneak. And when you really evaluate it, it's more 383 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 10: the technique of the sneak than the push. 384 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 2: Those are strong comments for a guy who's going against 385 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 2: the tush push. And we've talked about that ad nauseum 386 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: that I have no problem with it. You guys asked 387 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: for it, you allowed it. Now it's here, and now 388 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: people have a problem with it, get your votes together, 389 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 2: and then get rid of it if you want to. 390 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 2: But I promise you with that quarterback and that offensive line, 391 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: they're still going to be extremely successful. Now. Vic Fangio's 392 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator of the Eagles, and he was talking 393 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 2: about just how good kickers are, and he brought in 394 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: an interesting comparison. 395 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 11: You know what, you guys have missed not to shoot, 396 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 11: but everybody is. You know, we gave up a sixty 397 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 11: five yard field goal and a fifty eight yard field goal. 398 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 11: These kicking balls that they changed this year have drastically 399 00:20:55,320 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 11: changed the kicking game field goals in particular. So it's 400 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 11: almost like they need an asterisk here, like it was 401 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 11: the live ball air or the asterisks for those home 402 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 11: runs bonds and so Sam maguire were hitting. You know, 403 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 11: the way they've changed the ball has drastically changed the 404 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 11: field goals different No in years past, the officials would 405 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 11: rub them down or other people would rub them down, 406 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 11: and you play with them. Now the balls are in 407 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 11: house all week and they kick those balls that they've 408 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 11: had and nobody else touches them. 409 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: Which I don't have a problem with if you're the 410 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: one using the ball. And then your kicker gets to you. 411 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: It goes back to what I've said about the quarterback. 412 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: If you want it a certain way, if you want 413 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: it a little softer like Tom Brady did, or a 414 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: little bit harder, firmer like Aaron Rodgers did. You're the 415 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: one that's you know, holding it, throwing it, and if 416 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 2: your receivers are fine catching it or running backs are 417 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 2: fine with running, then I'm fine with that. 418 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 3: You're not. 419 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 2: I don't think you're doing any thing in an nefarious 420 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 2: way like Brady did. Brady lied about it, but you 421 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: know the fact that Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers said, I 422 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 2: inflate it more than it needs to be and no 423 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 2: one said a word, no headlines whatsoever. Tom was deflating 424 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 2: like the inflator doesn't sound as bad as the deflator. 425 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: But Aaron Rodgers said, I wanted to be firmer. Brady, 426 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 2: you know, wanted to do it a little bit less 427 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: than that. But as far as these balls that are now, 428 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: I never understood this as well. When I played high 429 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 2: school basketball, they would give you a brand new basketball 430 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: to start the game, and I'm thinking, why why not 431 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: give you a basketball that you've been using? Home team 432 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: Home team picked the basketball? Do we want it? Is 433 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 2: the the aesthetics of that's a brand new basketball, and 434 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: to be slick, and you know, and by the way, 435 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 2: high school players should have been using an NBA ball 436 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 2: because thicker seems allows you to be able to shoot better. 437 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: I never understood that they gave you a brand new basketball. 438 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 2: So same thing with the football. And those footballs look worn, weathered, 439 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 2: they look like they're you know, they've been broken in, Yes, Marvin. 440 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 10: Yeah. 441 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 4: In college football, the teams have their own balls, right, 442 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 4: So say, if it's Army versus Wake Force, there's people 443 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 4: on the sidelines. Army, here's your ball, wake Force, here's 444 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 4: your ball. There's a bunch of ball boys that have 445 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 4: balls that are as the Army local as the Wake 446 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 4: Force logo. So they use their own ball. So I 447 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 4: don't understand why it can't be the same in the NFL. 448 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 2: It's that now all of a sudden, it's the kickers 449 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 2: are ruining the game. All they're doing is kicking. They've 450 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 2: gotten better, they've gotten stronger, And it goes back to 451 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 2: the analytics. It's gotten back to geometry, and it's gotten 452 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 2: back to how do I strengthen my leg okay, And 453 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 2: you know, how do we block if you're kicking a 454 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 2: sixty five yard field goal, Well, that ball is going 455 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 2: to be lower. You got to make sure you do 456 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: your job differently up front. But we're seeing more kicks 457 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 2: are blocked, well, more kicks are blocked. It feels like 458 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 2: because now we have longer kicks, we have no problem. 459 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 2: Like when the ball goes out to the thirty five 460 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: yard line, you're thinking, we get two first downs, we're 461 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: in field goal range. It didn't used to be that way. 462 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,719 Speaker 2: It was like, man, it's fifty yards and then all 463 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 2: of a sudden it's sixty yards, and then Tom Dempsey 464 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 2: and then it's sixty three yards, and you're thinking, these 465 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: guys can kick seventy yards. I think somebody's kicking a 466 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: seventy yard field goal this year. But they do it. 467 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: You watch them when they practice. Now, there's no rush, 468 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: there's no pressure, but these guys have the leg to 469 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: get it that far. 470 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, Pauline, and conditioning has to be in play. 471 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 6: If you look at the average kicker just eyeballing it, 472 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 6: they kind of look like football players now and back 473 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 6: in the eighties, the kicker would stand out. He'd have 474 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 6: a gut or you know, he would just be he 475 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 6: was there just to kick and never do anything else, 476 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 6: and it didn't seem like they worked out at all. 477 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 478 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 7: See, I think the thing that's going to be tough 479 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 7: for that is kick Kicking the ball that far is 480 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 7: how low the ball is when it comes off your 481 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 7: foot getting over the line. You know that it's easier 482 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 7: to the longer the field goal is, the lower that 483 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 7: trajectory is that it's easier to block. And I think 484 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 7: that's probably going to be the biggest problem and probably 485 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 7: why you can see them kick seventy yards in practice 486 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 7: but not in a game, because you could just it's 487 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 7: going to hit off somebody's head. 488 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, unless it's the last play of a game. Maybe 489 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: you know, even the last play of a half, you 490 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: run that risk of somebody blocking it and running it back. 491 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: But those are the times when somebody is going to 492 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: be attempting a seventy yard field goal. I think that 493 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 2: that's it's inevitable that somebody will get that opportunity. 494 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul, if you want to compare it to the 495 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 6: three pointer in basketball, it's apples and oranges. But let's 496 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 6: say kicking becomes too easy deep kicks become too easy 497 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 6: the way that the emphasize it. 498 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 5: Good idea, bad idea. 499 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 6: If you made a field goal worth two points, now 500 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 6: it's a there's less high end of that play, there's 501 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 6: less upside of that play, and you're more likely to 502 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 6: go for it and try to get seven points. I 503 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 6: don't know if that's ever a thing down the road, 504 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 6: but it could be. 505 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't. I don't believe in penalizing people 506 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: being really good at what they're supposed to be really 507 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: good at. I imagine you go, you know, guys, unbelievable. Yeah, 508 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 2: we got to do something about it. If Tiger could 509 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 2: talk about that, Yeah, hey, that's not fair, Tiger, you're 510 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 2: hitting the ball too well. Yeah, let's Tiger proof this. 511 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 7: Let's rearrange thousands of trees, dig them up and plant 512 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 7: them somewhere else or something so that then it's. 513 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 2: Easier to yeah, or harder. Yeah, Dylly. 514 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: In that vein of changing the field goal points, don't 515 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 3: you think a safety should be more than two points? 516 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 5: Make it four. 517 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: I haven't. I haven't thought about it. 518 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 3: Take one point from the field goal, give it to 519 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: the safety. 520 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 2: I would love. Field goals can only take place fifty 521 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: yards or further. I love that that's it fifty yards 522 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: or further. Other than that, you go for it. You 523 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: gotta go for it or you pump. But if you're 524 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: going for a field goal, it has to be fifty 525 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: yards or more. Yes, Paul, I think I threw. 526 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 6: Out a rule ten years ago to deemphasize kickers. A 527 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 6: starting position player had to handle all your punting and kicking. 528 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 5: And can you imagine the difference. 529 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 6: Like every team has to have someone on the roster 530 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 6: who plays right guard and con punt. 531 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: What about you get the opposition gets to pick who 532 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: they want to. 533 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, I feel that way about punting. If it's 534 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 4: fourth and under five yards, you gotta go for it. 535 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 5: Okay, let's just get rid of these are fun ideas. 536 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, punters have gotten really good too, but 537 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 2: it always seems like the average is around forty five 538 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: point seven yards. When somebody says, oh man, he's first 539 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: team All Pro forty five point seven yards or something. 540 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 2: All right, a couple of phone calls in there. We 541 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: will talk about the greatest lineups in baseball history. And 542 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: I'm talking about lineups like the Dodgers. They have Otani, 543 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: They have Freddie Freeman, they have Mookie having MVPs in 544 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: the line How many teams have that luxury and that's one, 545 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 2: two three in the lineup, which is crazy to think about. 546 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 2: And Mookie Betts with four hits as the Dodgers advance. 547 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 2: Andrew and Sarasota. Hi Andrew, what's on your mind today? 548 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 12: Hey DP, Hey Dennis. That's a quick question for you, 549 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 12: big Bill fan, big Yankee fan. I got a couple 550 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 12: of kids wondering how you guys went about kind of 551 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 12: instilling the value of loving sports and maybe the teams 552 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 12: you guys root for, but kind of letting them go 553 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 12: their own way and make their own decisions about that too. 554 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: Well, it's different for me, and thanks for the phone call. 555 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: It's a great topic. I had already kind of relinquished 556 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: my fandom when I got to Sports Center, So that 557 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: was nineteen eighty nine, and I didn't start having kids 558 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: until a few years later. And then I said to 559 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: my son, whoever you want to root for or root for? 560 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: And he started rooting for the Packers and the Red Sox. 561 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: The Packers with farv the Red Sox hadn't won anything, 562 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: and he's made he's stayed loyal to those those teams. 563 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: But I didn't guide him when I did give him 564 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 2: my heads up that with the Red Sox, you're probably 565 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: not winning any time soon, maybe in your lifetime, and 566 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: he kept saying didn't matter. He was going to be 567 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 2: a Red Sox fan, and he loved the Packers. I 568 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: don't know how the fandom started, but he stayed true 569 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: to the Packers to this day. But yeah, when you're 570 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: if you're a fan of a team that's not very good, 571 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: do you hand it to your child? Hand it down 572 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: to your child? You know, we're we're a Browns family. 573 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: Well you're not going to be a Bengals fan or 574 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: a Steeler. You're just not. I don't know if you 575 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: get a choice there. I think if you're being if 576 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: you're being honest, you're probably saying, hey, you know what, 577 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: he or she's going to go through the same mail 578 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: that I've gone through. We're going to go through this together. Hey, 579 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: when we start to win, we are going to win together. 580 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul, I think a lot of kids under ten 581 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 6: years old would pick the team that's dominant right now. 582 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 5: Because it's feel good. 583 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 6: I'll bet you there's a lot of chiefs fans that 584 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 6: are young people over the past decade. When I was 585 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 6: a kid, of course I'm a Bears fan, but I 586 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 6: would see those Steelers dominating. 587 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 5: I'm like, man, that looks like a fun team. 588 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 8: To root for. 589 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 5: All they do is win a lot of football games. 590 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: And I grew up in Zanesville, Ohio, and that was 591 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown's territory. And then I moved to Cincinnati later 592 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 2: and the Bengals just came to Cincinnati and I thought, Okay, 593 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 2: that's my football team. And I asked my dad. I said, 594 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: can I go back to rooting for the Browns And 595 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: he said, no, We're Bengals fans. I go, oh my god. 596 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: So the only thing that I enjoyment I got out 597 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: of that is I got to go to Bengal. We'd 598 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 2: sneak into the Bengals games and I got to see 599 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: the opposition. I would go to see whoever they were playing. Yes, Marv, Yeah. 600 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 4: To Paula's point, I grew up a forty nine Ers 601 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 4: fan because in nineteen ninety three, nineteen ninety four they 602 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 4: were really good. Sorry, I didn't want to watch Dave 603 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 4: Brown go to Howard Cross with the Giants every single week, 604 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 4: right so I was like, you know what, I'm a 605 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 4: forty nine Ers fan from here on out. 606 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: Dave Brown supplemental draft with the Giants. 607 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 5: I believe ill supplemental. 608 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 2: Dave Brown supplemental draft. Well, Bernie Cossar was he supplemental 609 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 2: draft as well? 610 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 5: Maybe because he was in the USFL, you're after him. 611 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 2: I think there's been a couple of supplemental that's like 612 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 2: the commissioner's exemp list where you go. I didn't know 613 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: that existed, and then all of a sudden, it's the 614 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 2: supplemental draft. Yes, Martin was Chris Carter supplemental draft also. 615 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 4: Got a double check. 616 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: Check on that. All right, All right, well, Jacob break 617 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: settle on our poll question. Your phone calls coming up 618 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 2: of our play of the day is next. 619 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 620 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 621 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search f s 622 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: R to listen live. 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Eight of the fifteen 635 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: meetings between the Socks and Yankees this season have been 636 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 2: decided by two or less runs, including each of the 637 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: last four. That's your play of the day. Play of 638 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: the Day brought to you by Rapid Radios, the official 639 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: walkie talkie of the show. Push to talk service, national 640 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 2: LTE coverage, no subscriptions ever, you can get them before 641 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: bad weather occurs. Visit rapid radios dot com up to 642 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 2: six off and free shipping. Anybody else in the supplemental Draft? 643 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: Was Bernie Cosar in the supplemental Draft? 644 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 14: Yeah? 645 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 6: And so the supplemental draft started back in the seventies 646 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 6: for players who couldn't be in the draft for some reason, eligibility, 647 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 6: whatever it may be, and so teams could draft them. 648 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 6: But then they lost another draft pick, Bernie Coosar nineteen 649 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 6: eighty five by the Browns out of Miami. 650 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 5: He graduated early. Smart guy Brian Bosworth. 651 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 6: Of Oklahoma was a supplemental draft pick. Chris Carter of 652 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 6: Ohio State Blue Blue, Marvin Yes, suspended before a senior 653 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 6: year for signing with an agent. Supplemental draft. A couple others. 654 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 6: Bobby Humphrey the running back the Broncos, Rob Moore the 655 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 6: wide receiver, Jamal Williams the running back, so Josh Gordon 656 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 6: the wide receiver out of the Browns who was very 657 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 6: good a few years back. A lot of supplemental draft. 658 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: Speaking of the Browns, Kevin Stefanski's the head coach, and 659 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: he announced that Dylan Gabriel is going to start against 660 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 2: the Vikings. 661 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 14: From the second he's been here, he's been more working, 662 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 14: very hard, very intelligent young man. He's done a nice job. 663 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: Throughout practice this whole season. 664 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 14: He's been learning how to get yourself ready and understand 665 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 14: the rhythm of an NFL week and what that looks 666 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 14: like as a backup, and obviously now feel like he's 667 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 14: ready that's going as a starter. 668 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was surprised on the road in London against 669 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 2: the Vikings. I don't know. Put him in the deep 670 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 2: end of the pool and let's see what he does. 671 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 2: And you know, he has some mobility there, far more 672 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 2: than Flacco does. But I have more mobility, I think 673 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 2: than Joe does. But you know, by all accounts, Dylan 674 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 2: Gabriel has done a very good job picked up the 675 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 2: offense and he gets the ball out quickly, and he's 676 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 2: not somebody trying to extend plays, which is what you 677 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 2: want out of your rookie quarterback. Take what is there 678 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: and then when it's not there, lived to call another play. Yeah. 679 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 8: Dylan Gabriel had a pretty good quote too. 680 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 7: I think it was from this week where he said, 681 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 7: basically he was like, it's that Joe Flacco's job to 682 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 7: teach me how to do this. 683 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 8: It's not his job to be a mentor. It's my 684 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 8: job to ask questions. Yeah, you know, that's a pretty 685 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 8: good shift in mindset that we don't normally hear. 686 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 5: Yes, Paul and Dylan Gabriels played a lot of football. 687 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 6: He played six years of college three at UCF, two 688 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 6: at Oklahoma, one at Oregon. He had sixty four college 689 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 6: starts experience case he's like twenty four years old. 690 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, him and Jade and Daniels bow Knicks. I think 691 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 2: they had maybe the most starts in college football history. 692 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 5: But six years is the max. 693 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think after come on, come on six years, he. 694 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 6: Had one hundred and fifty five touchdowns in college. That's 695 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 6: got to be the record by far. 696 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 2: Is it the record by far? 697 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 6: I think it has to be because he was a starter 698 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 6: for six years. He had the one year at UCF 699 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 6: where he got injured. 700 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 2: He might be the all time record. 701 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 6: He's got more thirty touchdown seasons in college and like 702 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 6: the Bears having their history, Yeah, but that's not saying anything. 703 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 2: They still haven't had a four thousand yard passer. Are 704 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 2: they going to get that this year? I think they 705 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,720 Speaker 2: will with Caleb Waims. So he gets the start against 706 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings. That game is in London, and I 707 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 2: know a lot's been made about Shador Sanders. There's nothing 708 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 2: to talk about until he plays. That's all. This is 709 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 2: a clickbait media Forest Rex Ryan very animated being critical. 710 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 2: You know, it's low hanging fruit. I want to be 711 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 2: fair to the kid, you know, and I have you know, 712 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 2: people that I talk to and they say that he's 713 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 2: done a good job. I don't know about him studying 714 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 2: or not studying, but I got to be fair to 715 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 2: what I How I cover this, Let me wait till 716 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 2: he starts a game. If there's a reason why he's 717 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: not playing, or he's the third string quarterback, or he's 718 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 2: not going to be on the roster. Okay, then i'd 719 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 2: cover that, but the other stuff, you know, does he 720 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 2: He's been the star everywhere he's gone and now you're 721 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: not a star. And that's really hard, especially at that position. 722 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 2: He wants attention, he wants to be the focal point. 723 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 2: He wants to be the star, and he's not. And 724 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 2: I think that that can sometimes show up in immaturity. 725 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, And I'm sure it's got to be tough 726 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 4: for him because last season he probably thought he was 727 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 4: going to be a first round draft pick, top five pick, right, 728 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 4: so it's got to be a very humbling experience. Wait, 729 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 4: I'm the third I'm a fifth round draft pick, and 730 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 4: now I'm the third string quarterback. 731 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, Dylan, I mean people were like shocked that he 732 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 3: didn't get named the starter, but he was the last 733 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 3: guy in the depth chart, Like they're just going in order. 734 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're trying to make this more than what it is. 735 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 2: And look, this is the approach with some shows and 736 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 2: some networks. But I got to be fair to the kid, 737 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 2: and I hope he gets the opportunity. I don't know 738 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 2: if he's any good. I voted for him third in 739 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 2: the Heisman. I thought that much of him when I 740 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 2: watched him play. But if he can't play in the NFL, 741 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 2: maybe it's with another team. And you know, at that position, 742 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: you gotta be mature. You can't be a goofball. Those 743 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 2: days are long gone. They're paying you a lot. These 744 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 2: guys get a lot of money. You can't be a 745 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 2: goofball immature. You know. That's where I hope that he 746 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 2: reads the room and gets the opportunity to be able 747 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 2: to play, because that's all you want for any of 748 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 2: these guys, just get a chance to play. Dylan Gabriel 749 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 2: is getting a chance to play sooner than I thought. 750 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 2: But I do think that he can play. I don't 751 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 2: know if he's a franchise quarterback, but I do think 752 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 2: that he can play because I saw him play in 753 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 2: three different places and he was successful. 754 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 3: Yes, still, have you noticed that that's kind of the 755 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 3: trend now that it's actually more attractive for a quarterback 756 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 3: to play six years in college as opposed to trying 757 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 3: to jump early because out of any position a lot 758 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 3: more you can get reps under you the better. 759 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, but this has to do with COVID and those 760 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 2: those days are done. You know the bonus year is 761 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 2: due to COVID. We won't have this again. Well, hopefully 762 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 2: we don't have COVID again. David in Ohio, Hi David, 763 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,439 Speaker 2: what's on your mind? 764 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: Hey? 765 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 12: Dan? 766 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 13: I got a right tomorrow's headline today, rams wide receivers 767 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 13: go off. Whoka Nakua Matata needs no worries unless you 768 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 13: try to cover him. 769 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 2: Thank you, Dan, A little wordy, but thank you David. 770 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 2: Derek and Wisconsin. Hi Derek, what's on your mind? 771 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 15: Hey? 772 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 13: Dan? How are you doing great? Three two thirty five. Hey, 773 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 13: So it's my birthday today and in the. 774 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 15: Vein of me being a giving person, I wanted to 775 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 15: get back to you. In the NFL, I have solved 776 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 15: the overtime role on how we can make these games 777 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 15: go quicker and be more engaging. So if you get 778 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 15: the ball and receive it a kick a field goal, 779 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 15: the other team just has to go for a touchdown. 780 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 15: If you get the ball, score a touchdown and kick 781 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 15: an extra point, the team then that receives the ball 782 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 15: would have to go down, score a touchdown and go 783 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,240 Speaker 15: for two. If the first team gets the ball, scores 784 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 15: a touchdown and goes for two games over. Second team 785 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 15: doesn't get to touch it. They're gonna make for an 786 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 15: awesome game. 787 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Derek. I like sudden death. If you 788 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 2: get to overtime, all bets are off, you roll the 789 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 2: dice and I it feels like a participatory you know situation. Hey, 790 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 2: he got it, and now you have to get the 791 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,919 Speaker 2: ball too. Hey, Josh didn't get to have the ball 792 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 2: in overtime. Don't go into overtime. And then it's just 793 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:57,240 Speaker 2: too many rules. They never subtract. They always ad they do. 794 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 2: That's the NFL way. You got the ball, Now he 795 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 2: gets the ball. You had the ball four quarters. He 796 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 2: had the ball four quarters. Peter King's going to join us. 797 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 2: Peter reached out yesterday and he goes, am, I the 798 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 2: only person who likes ties I go in football. He 799 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 2: goes yeah. I said, all right, well letn't you come 800 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 2: on the show. He'll join us in twenty minutes from now.