1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: It's time. 2 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 2: And low and lower No, welcome to the naughty but 3 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: nic Sham your host from Shooter and it is Thursday now. 4 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: For the last couple of weeks I was away, he 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: was away. But we are back together, my dear friend 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: Mark Looper. Hey, Loopy, are you. 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: There, Loopy Luisy? It's good to be back. 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: We got to catch up. We've got a tonne of 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: gossip to get to so we'll be quick about this. 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: But how is Greece with your family? 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: It was incredible. It was the best trip I've ever 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: been on. Yeah, wow, Yeah. 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: Because of the company, because of the location, or all 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 2: the above. 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: Of the above, and then seeing my roots, you know, 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: going and you know, my mama's grieg and so it's 17 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: just it was really cool. 18 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: It's really touches at your heartstrings. I was back in 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: Britain just last week and we took a day to 20 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: go back to my family home. We got in a 21 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: car and all went on this sort of life. We 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: called it the reminiscence too, not the Reaisance Beyonce, but 23 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: we were reminiscing about our childhood and we went back 24 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: to my primary school, the house we grew up in 25 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 2: the local shops, if we had a lovely, lovely day. 26 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: There's something about knowing where you come from that lets 27 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: you go forward with what's going to come next. I 28 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: like it, I really do like it. If you have 29 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: a chance to go back, it might bring up some 30 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: some tough memories, but I think overall it's probably a 31 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: lovely thing to do. Well. I'm happy you're back, Mark, 32 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: we have missed you. Let's jump in. What time is it? 33 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: My friends and tea time Mark? We are behind on 34 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: this story together. The show has been keeping up on 35 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: this book. You and me have not discussed this. I 36 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: can't wait to get your opinion. Team Diddy, you're telling 37 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 2: me they are confident that he will be cleared, and 38 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: not only is he going to walk, but they think 39 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: he could be bigger than ever. Oh So, in a 40 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: stunning turn of events, just hours before the closing arguments, 41 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: federal prosecutors have quietly backed off some of the most 42 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: sensational charges against Sean did He Combs and inside of 43 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: say that now a team did He is more confident 44 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: than ever. They think that the prosecution's legal team it's 45 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: cumberling over their own accusations. There's just too much that 46 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: they have accused, and now they're backing off several of 47 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 2: these really really explosive claims. This doesn't This doesn't look 48 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: good for the prosecution. Once you start changing what you're 49 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: prosecuting really towards the end of a trial. I think 50 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 2: that says to a jury, gosh, we even we admit 51 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: we probably haven't proved this. What do you think? 52 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think to your point, just a few days 53 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 1: before this is wrapping up, they're suddenly, you know, backing off. 54 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: I think, you know, looking at the case as a whole, 55 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: I think they've kind of proved the transportation of a prostitute. 56 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that's kind of something they're worried about it. 57 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: But I think to prove that he was running a 58 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: criminal enterprise, it's complicated. I just I don't think the 59 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: evidence is there. 60 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Yeah, I think we all believe it's true, like 61 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: us that have been watching. But if I was a DURA, 62 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: it's a higher level of proof. As a TV audience, 63 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: I can be oh, my goodness, definitely happened. But I 64 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: have been a jury once and I definitely was really 65 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: really I took it really seriously. Everybody did, and you 66 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: got to if you're going to put somebody away, if 67 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: you're going to change somebody's life, the level of proof 68 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 2: it has to be beyond a reasonable doubt. And I 69 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: think that there possibly is some doubt there. Let's not 70 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: forget too Mark. We know this because we've worked in 71 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: this field for twenty thirty years. Celebrity, fame, power, it 72 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: all goes together. And I've seen celebrities get away with 73 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: stuff that you and me just we couldn't do it. Mark. 74 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: If you and me pushed in the line and a 75 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: tailor swift concert would be pushed to the back. Now, 76 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 2: if a celebrity turns up, they're allowed to get away 77 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: from it. We've been in restaurants, Mark, where there's no 78 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: tables available, and then suddenly a celebrity turns up and 79 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: guess what, there's a table available. Now. I know they 80 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: are silly examples, but the essence of them is true. Mark. 81 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: There's something different with the way we see, we perceive celebrity, 82 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: and that's got to be going through the juror's mind. 83 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wanted to also just compliment you on 84 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: the story that you wrote about did he You know 85 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: you did such a great job explaining how it's easy 86 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: to kind of turn a blind eye to the celebrity 87 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: behavior and kind of ignore it and accept it. And 88 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: so I agree. I think people have allowed this to 89 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: go on for so many years, and now we now, 90 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: in this case, we know he's a pig. We know 91 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: he's a terrible person, and we know he's a you know, 92 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: in our hard parts, we know he's a criminal. I mean, 93 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: whatever happens after this, we know the truth. We know 94 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: the truth. 95 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: We know the truth. We know the truth. You know. 96 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,559 Speaker 2: Let me remind everybody that OJ got off, OJ walked away. 97 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: But I don't think anybody listening to the show is 98 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: going to say that OJ was an innocent man. We know. 99 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: So it's going to be it's going to be complicated 100 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: with puffers. Somebody who's worked in the PR business for 101 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: a long time before I was a reporter. You can 102 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: appeal to a certain base. Now to a certain base. 103 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: Did he be in a criminal? Is actually going to 104 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: be a peek? Like God, are the old school rules 105 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: where if you get arrested you're over No, that's not 106 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: true anymore. We've seen it in elections, We've seen it 107 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: with celebrities that you can do awful things and still win, 108 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: and so there is a base out there. Kanye West 109 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: is a good example. My sources are telling me that 110 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: they wouldn't be at all surprised if did he goes 111 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 2: on tour with Kanye. If you go on tour together, 112 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 2: I can see it. I'm not going, but I think 113 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: people will buy some people will buy that ticket. And 114 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people out there who don't 115 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: trust the police, who know what it's like to be 116 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: persecuted by law enforcements, they have trouble believing any of 117 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: this is legit did His team is really confident. I 118 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: still got really deep sources within his team, and at 119 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: the beginning they were not confidence. You could tell when 120 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: you spoke to them. They were like, oh, and they 121 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 2: wouldn't return your calls, which always means guilt when people 122 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: don't return your calls. Now they're Chaddie cannets. They're working 123 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: the press outside the courtroom. I've been down to the court. 124 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: There's smiles on their faces. Something's changed here, and we 125 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: know something's changed, not because we're listening to Diddy's people. 126 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: I'm listening to the prosecution. They've changed the goalposts. Everything 127 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: that they were trying to prove a day before final arguments, 128 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 2: they've decided, Oh, you know what, we're not going to 129 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 2: move forward with a B and C. That is not 130 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: a good sign for the prosecution. It's a great sign 131 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: for Diddy, which brings us to our pole question of 132 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: the day. Team Diddy is really confident that he's going 133 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: to be cleared. Do you agree? Do you think not 134 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: what you want to happen? We all know Naughty's I 135 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: know what you want, you know what I want. But 136 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: we've seen this before. Celebrities have got off, people have 137 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: got off that we know. No probably did it. What 138 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: do you think? Do you agree? Do you think he 139 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: will be cleared? We're going to find out in a 140 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: couple of days. I predict the beginning of the next 141 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: week mark we will probably get a verdict. Here. Hey, 142 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: go vote on our Twitter page add naughty nice rob 143 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 2: Our facebook page is naughty yozib and be sure to 144 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: check back tomorrow your results. Hey, Loopy, w do you working? 145 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: I love the story so much? Okay, so Brad Pitt 146 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: says he has missed the window for a gay experience. 147 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that, Brad. Some of his most 148 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: candid interview yet the Oscar Winner joined Dax Shepherd on 149 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: the Armchair Expert podcast and addressed the long standing speculation 150 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: about his sexuality now. When Shepard jokingly asked in their 151 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: first meeting, which was at an AA gathering, it made 152 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: him nervous, and the actor shot back saying sexually you mean, 153 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: and he said, you know, Brad he goes. 154 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: You know. 155 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: Pitt added with a grin, I've never had a gay experience. 156 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: I kind of missed that window. But if I did, 157 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be you. I mean, what do you think, Rob, 158 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: Do you think he would ever dibble dabble? 159 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: I don't know how it works. I was trying to 160 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: think of it as a gay guy. It wasn't like 161 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: I could miss my window because it was who I am. 162 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: But I think I missed my straight window Mark, So 163 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: maybe there is some wisdom to this. We all want 164 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: Brad to be gay because he's so gorgeous. That's why 165 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: the gay community love bread That. Everybody loves Brad Pitt. 166 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: He's absolutely trific. But I think one of the reasons 167 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: we love him is that he is very comfortable in 168 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: his sexuality. We know a lot of really macho stars 169 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: that if we talked about being gay. They would shut 170 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: us down. Can you imagine Tom Cruise talking about this 171 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: absolutely nutty? It would never happen. The publicist would jump 172 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: in and shut that down. Cloney. I guess he could 173 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: talk about it and joke about it. Brad straight, We 174 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: know he's straight. Good for you? Do I personally believe 175 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: there's a spectrum of sexuality? Yes? I don't think it's 176 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: one or the other. I think it's a long, long spectrum. 177 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: I'm very very much towards the ninety nine percent gay spectrum. 178 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 2: But I do know I have got some friends who 179 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: are more like sixty forty that are more fluid. It's complicated, 180 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: isn't It makes life easier if we can put people 181 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: into boxes that's gay or straight, or straight or gay. 182 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: Brad's blurring that line a little bit here. What do 183 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: you think about all this? 184 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: Mark? 185 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: Do you do you believe him? Do you think the 186 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: wind has gone? Or do you think never too late 187 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: Bradley to try? 188 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: I think it's never true. Lead. I mean, he's been 189 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: through all of it, like he's Angelina and Jennifer Aniston. 190 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: And when I pealtro on these believes, I think you 191 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: would actually find it to be a lot easier, if 192 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: less headaches. You know, I could see him with some 193 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: a little bit younger, younger boy in a boy toy 194 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: and just try it out for a few weeks a month. 195 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 2: Try it out for a few weeks, Brad, listen to 196 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: mock encouraging you here on the Naughty but Nay Sea. 197 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: If you're listening, Hello Alao, Brad give given Cale Mark, 198 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: he's a little younger. Don't tell Kevin James. Moving along, 199 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: I do, look, Brad moving along. We found out who 200 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: the real housewife who was banned from So's Soul Cycle. 201 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: We know who it is. So a couple of days ago, 202 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: page six did this great story that a real housewife 203 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 2: was banned from Soul Cycle because of outrageous behavior. She 204 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: was there making out with somebody on a bike and 205 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 2: then when they pulled her aside and was like you 206 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 2: causing a first and you're disrupting the class. He was like, 207 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: do you know who I am? I can tell you 208 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: who she is. It was Sonya Morgan. So the soul 209 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 2: citle was close to her home on sixty third Street, 210 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 2: and she went there, worked out, caused the big first. 211 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 2: Now it has been confirmed. It has been confirmed on 212 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 2: the hip podcast Cult of Body and Soul with Jess 213 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: Rough's Child that the diva that the silly silly use 214 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: it was Sonya Morgan. These ladies feel as if it's 215 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: over marked, Like it just feels now as if we 216 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: can get dribbles of stories about her and Bethany and Ramona. 217 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 2: But I think now I've sort of moved on. I 218 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: think it's about time they did too. 219 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: I agree. You know, I'm friends with Max Tucci, the 220 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: restaurant owner of tucciese Yes. He told me about her 221 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: behavior his restaurant a few becus ago, and he said 222 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: that she was so out of outrageous, out of control 223 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: that they banned her and also now created a drink 224 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: called Sonya Nograda at the restaurant. Just hilarious. 225 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: That's alone. Oh, I want to go to that restaurant. 226 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 2: It's really girl monicos. Is that what it's called. 227 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: Here's too. But when I went to tou Cheese that's 228 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: where she got two chees. 229 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 2: I want to go there. I hear the food is fantastic. 230 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: I'd had dinner with Sonya several times and she's never 231 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 2: been that gracious, and she never ever picked up the 232 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: tab in the ten years. I think I knew her 233 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 2: just I think she had drinks at Bottinas once and 234 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: she could have offered to split the tab, but they 235 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 2: don't pay. They're so so cheap, and they do. I 236 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: think it's because all their lives they wanted to be famous, 237 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: they wanted to be celebrities, and they were for ten minutes. 238 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 2: They were a little bit famous. This show was a 239 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: big deal and now they think they're Beyonce, but they're not. 240 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: And without that show, it all goes away. Ask Jill 241 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: Zaraon or some of the ladies that had been fired 242 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: from the show. It is a constant struggle every day. 243 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: Bethany probably does it the best to stay relevant, but 244 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: she has to get up every day and decide to 245 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 2: make controversial TikTok videos, to say controversial things about Megan Markle, 246 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: to keep herself in the press. That's all she must 247 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: think about to still be out there. Sonya doesn't work 248 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 2: that hard. But going to places I do love to 249 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: when people always say do you know who I am? 250 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 2: I would never have you ever said I'd never know. 251 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: No one cares about her, No one cares. 252 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: No one cares, and that you know what the answer is? Yes, 253 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: I do, and I don't care. That's even more insult 254 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: in the I know exactly who you are. Okay, moving along. 255 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: Just In Bandldoni is losing faith in his pit bull lawyer. 256 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: Yeah so Justin maybe playing calm in public, but behind 257 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: closed doors sources to say the actor is losing faith 258 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: in his high powered attorney, Ran Freeman. So this saga 259 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: is going on and it will go on for I 260 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: think quite a while. But the New York Times boondshell 261 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: that the four undred billion dollar lawsuit is unraveling, and 262 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: through a judge who tossed his suit earlier this month, 263 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: even promised that they would amend and refile the original claims. 264 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: But now it looks like that plan has changed and 265 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: instead of revisiting and revising the claims, his client will 266 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: be pursuing additional. 267 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: Means rate, it means nothing. I think they overshot the 268 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: runway here. They thought they had something, this four hundred 269 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: million dollar lawsuit against The New York Times, against Blake 270 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: against her husband Ryan, It was never really there. Anyone 271 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: can sue anybody, I can write a lawsuit about anybody. 272 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: But he doesn't mean it's actually going to move forward. 273 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 2: A judge tossed it out. It shows you there's just 274 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 2: nothing there. Now. The thing that I think Justin should do, 275 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 2: if you're listening Gala Loolo is buttled down and really 276 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: prepare for this battle. Because Blake is still suing him. 277 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: So Blake is suing him for sexual harassment. He's got 278 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: to defend himself. So instead of suing her back at 279 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 2: the moment, I would focus on winning that suit. It 280 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: is interesting, though I have not had this with a lawyer, 281 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: but I've certainly known publicists and managers who have over promised, 282 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 2: or just that friends who have over promised. Don't over 283 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: promise because when you don't deliver, it never ends up 284 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 2: being very very good. Mark. I owned to promise and 285 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: I over deliver, so I always try. You know, there's 286 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 2: people we've got them. They brag, they brag it. I 287 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: don't think they do it to be mean. They just 288 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: want to puff up their chests like peacocks and show off. 289 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: And I'm like, you can't deliver that, so let's not 290 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: go there. Like I'm not playing Carnegie hall Mark me 291 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 2: and you might be able to play to ten people 292 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: at Bottino's. I'm just saying we're not doing Carnegie Hall. 293 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: Anybody that promise to rob Shooter and we get you 294 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: and market Carnegie Hall to do the podcast. I've let 295 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: please over promising. How are you about it? In your 296 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: line of Workmark, this is a big thing because people 297 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: promise you stuff and then don't deliver, and it's you 298 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: that's left hold in the back. 299 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: I've learned over the years just really manage expectations, right, 300 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: so you can hope for things. But I really am 301 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: a realist. I'm not negative, but I just recognize that 302 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: there are certain truths and you have to kind of 303 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: live in that truth. 304 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I've been in some of those meetings where 305 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: they're like, will Jessica Simpson swim down the Hudson Rover 306 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: and say hello to Rachel Ray with a turkey? No? No, no, 307 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: the chance of that, it's not good. It's not good. 308 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: Let's be realistic. Maybe she'll come on and sit on 309 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: the couch. Maybe that, but you's not making a turkey 310 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: on your show. It's just never going to happen. Be realistic. 311 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: I think what you said, though, Mark is so important. 312 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: Don't be a Debbie downer, don't be negative, but be realistic. 313 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: And there's a fine line and I think Justin Baldoni 314 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: is figuring that out. Okay, we're going to take a 315 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: quick break and we will be right back. Welcome back 316 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: to the Naudy but Nic Sham, your Hostrom Shooter with 317 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: our dear friend Mark Lupo Haley b Let's get to 318 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: the polls. About last year we talked about Jeff and 319 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: Lauren's wedding is falling apart. Guests are droughing off and 320 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: there's protests in Venice. This over the top wedding. It's 321 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: gonna be massive. I think I have recordports between twenty 322 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: and forty million booking hotels. There are private yachts literally 323 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: littering the harbor nis those poor gondoliers can't get in 324 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: and out because of Jeff and the billionaire yachts. It's 325 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: gonna get worse. I believe the wedding's going to be tomorrow, 326 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: on Friday or Saturday. I think it's Friday, and so 327 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: this is going to explore. The city is not prepared 328 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: for this. Is this over the top wedding tone death 329 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: to me? It sounds like that rocket to space. It's 330 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: just silly. It's billionaires playing at being fabulous, playing at 331 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: being tourists, Space tourists now tourists in Venice? Do you agree? 332 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: Do you think the wedding is tone deaf? While eighty 333 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: five percent said yes, it's too much. Mark people are struggling. 334 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to see all this well flaunted in 335 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: my face. I don't want to see it. I mean, 336 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: I don't mind which people. Good luck to you, you've 337 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: made that money, but this just feels to me like 338 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: ough another stunt. 339 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: What do you think he's so icky? You know, the 340 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: people that work for him, especially the drivers and others, 341 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: they work so hard for so little, and then for 342 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: him to go and act like this, it just really 343 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: disgusts me. I'm sorry, it's disgusting. It's disgusting. And pay 344 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: your taxes. Okay, don't forget to vote on today's pole. 345 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: Will go to our Twitter page add naughty nice RABA 346 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: facebook page is naughty good zip and be sure to 347 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: check back to my rout. I hear your results are 348 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: now ooh, very cryptic. Nicest of the day. Oh it's like, well, 349 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: I will and nicest of the day it's Jenner Aniston 350 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: who knows the truth about Pedro Pascal's private life. Mmmm. 351 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: So Jenna's been very quiet and confiding to friends about 352 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: the truth behind her headline making dinner with Pascal or 353 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: the earlier this year, after the pair were spotted deep 354 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: in conversation at a private table. Now, Rob, he's been 355 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: linked to people like Russell Tovey and amar Opalo. You know, 356 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: he says, Rob that he's very open in his private life. 357 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: He just doesn't bring it into his public life. What 358 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: do you think He doesn't talk about it. And you 359 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: are allowed to have any secrets you want there, but 360 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: don't lead somebody on. I think a lot of people 361 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: were worried that Jennifer was barking up the wrong tree 362 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: here that her and Pedro were going to get together. 363 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: My sources tell me, don't be ridiculous. She knows the truth. 364 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 2: She knows that they're not going to be together romantically, 365 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: but she hopes they can be good friends. And I 366 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: think too, my gen sources said she really feels for 367 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 2: him because he's the guy. He's all over the media, 368 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 2: he's on the cover of Vanity Fair, and she knows 369 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: what's that like to have everybody looking at you, and 370 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 2: so she's very protective about him and if he wants 371 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: secrets if he wants to keep his private life private. 372 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 2: She totally respects that. Jenn's tried to keep her private 373 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: life private and failed miserably at it. We poke everything. 374 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: She's warning him. She's a mentor to him. So if 375 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 2: you hear rumors that they are boyfriend and girlfriend, they 376 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: are not. If you hear rumors that he's leading her on, 377 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 2: he is not. She knows, he knows. I say that 378 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: is lovely and the nicest of the day, and amne naughty? 379 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: Is the day? Naughty? Naughty? Naughty? Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez, 380 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: the guests at the wedding are calling them cheap because 381 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: they're being asked to put down the credit cards for 382 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: the mini bar. So when you check into the hotel, 383 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 2: you have to put down your credit card. Now, should 384 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: one of the richest people in the world, if you 385 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: do a destination wedding, should you pay for everything? Should 386 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: you pay to fly people in? Should you pay for 387 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: their hotels? Should you pay for their god? Should you 388 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: pay for their mini bars? What do you think, bar? 389 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the least you could do. Honestly, it's 390 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: you have two hundred billion dollars. You can't cover a 391 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,959 Speaker 1: soda a mini shot of Vaga Command. 392 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: Sorry, those mini bars get expensive, although none of those 393 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: folks that eat their will skinny minis, But Jeff Bezos 394 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: pull out that credit cards and start paying for the 395 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: Toby rooms in the mini bar. I naughtices of the 396 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 2: day the same with a moment of rub a rub, 397 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: you get a rub. I never lose. I either win 398 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: or I learn. Sounded a little arrogant at first, didn't it. 399 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: But there's a twist at the end. I never lose. 400 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 2: I either win or I learn. Failures not in my vocabulary, 401 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 2: because every setback teaches me something. Every no sharpens my focus, 402 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 2: every mistake bills my strength. I don't lose, I grow, 403 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 2: I adapt, I riose, and when I win, I celebrate, 404 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 2: and when I don't, I learn. Either way, Mark, keep 405 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: moving forward. I think a lot of us don't do 406 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: stuff because we're frightened of losing. We're frightened of failure. 407 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: Don't think about it like that. It's not a failure, 408 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: it's a learning process. Keep going. Hey, that is it 409 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 2: for today. Thank you so much for listening to the 410 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 2: Naughty but Nice with Rob and Mark show a production 411 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: of Elvis Durant and iHeartRadio. Don't forget to subscribe on 412 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app podcast wherever you listen, leave us a 413 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 2: review if you can. They really do help. And remember 414 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: all together now, if you're going to be naughty, you've 415 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: got to be let me hear you. Nice take. It's 416 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 2: not even nice with Rom